Advisor to Putin: After the enslavement of Donbass half a million Nazi armada will move to the Crimea

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About this warns the adviser to the President of Russia Sergei Glazyev.

Advisor to Putin: After the enslavement of Donbass half a million Nazi armada will move to the CrimeaAn adviser to the Russian president, Sergei Glazyev, at a roundtable organized by the editorial staff of Expert magazine about the situation in Donetsk and Lugansk regions and Russia's position, spoke about why the Kiev authorities are not daring to cut off the payment system of the “rebellious” Donbass, and what prospects for economic development they will receive this region in the event of independence.

The editors of NewsBalt publish the text of his speech with minor cuts.

“Kiev is trying to portray the genocide organized by it against the population of Donbass as an anti-terrorist operation (ATO) against separate units, a relatively small group of people. And in this sense, cutting off the entire payment system will mean a transition to another phase - an economic blockade of the entire region, which does not fit into the ideology of their (Kiev authorities) actions today. Secondly, for the Donbass it would immediately play a mobilizing role, because economically the Donbass has the ability to create its own banking and its monetary system ...

The bottom line is that Donbass is the only region in Ukraine that has a positive trade balance. It is the only region in Ukraine that exports more than it imports. Accordingly, Donbass has an excellent basis for the formation of its own financial system, the release of its own currency. This, of course, will take about two months, during which it will be necessary to help our (Russian) loans to keep the fiscal system from collapsing, but this is also a completely solvable task, Glazyev said.

He noted that Donbass is a donor not only for the Ukrainian economy, but also for the entire socio-political system. Kiev, according to the expert, is in this sense the most parasitic region of Ukraine, which imports much more than it exports. And Donbass gives Kiev a big profit, only partially returned in the form of subsidies, primarily for the coal industry. Now these subsidies want to cut off, according to the obligations of Kiev to the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

Glazyev continued:

- Opportunities for independent work of the monetary and financial system of Donbass exist ... The financial capabilities of Donbass allow it to avoid the sharp drop in the standard of living that awaits the whole of Ukraine. According to our estimates, today the decline in production in Ukraine will be 10% by the end of this year, with time it will fall again by one and a half. Ukraine is waiting for a decrease in the standard of living at least one and a half times. And in the Donbas, on the contrary, financial capabilities allow us to raise the standard of living and make it the most prosperous region of the new Ukraine, which is born in agony today.

A special place in the speech of Putin’s advisor was taken by the words about the military-political situation in Donbas.

- The politics of Kiev is really focused on the genocide of the entire population of Donbass. They (the authorities of Kiev), without embarrassment, destroy social objects, defeated the best airport in Europe, without batting an eye. I'm not talking about the monstrous victims, they destroy hospitals, kindergartens, schools. Those. in fact, they are preparing for the people of Donbass the fate of serfs, slaves, and this is not hidden. Enough to listen to the speeches of the main ideologues of the Kiev Nazis, such as Lyashko, and Poroshenko not far from him left.

They view Donbass as a pure source of income, as a means of siphoning profits at the expense of the monstrous exploitation of the population. And we know that the population is already exploited extremely hard, the salary is paid low, in envelopes, the pension fund is ruined, the safety of work is, if not at the level of the last century, then of the past for sure. They create conditions for all dependents to leave soon. Anyone who is not related to work in factories and mines is squeezed out. These are the refugees we accept today on our territory. In other words, the Kiev authorities mercilessly trashed the social infrastructure of Donbass. Also, they are not interested in engineering and science, so they do not regret machine-building factories, which are focused on tough cooperation with Russia. Without Russia, they still can not survive.

Obviously, the United States, which today fully controls the Kiev Nazis and Poroshenko personally, pushes them to the war with the Donbas to the end ... There is no limit, they are already using Grad, Tymoshenko threatened to drop an atomic bomb. And this is not just emotions, it caused a good response among the Nazis. Those. they use all the means at their disposal ... The war will continue until the complete destruction of the Donbass.

The United States is arming, financing and directing them. And time, oddly enough, works for the Nazis. On the one hand, we have the expectation that this regime will collapse under the rubble of unsolvable socio-economic problems. But in Georgia, this did not happen. Saakashvili was thrown out from there not as a result of social rebellion, but as a result of the use of democratic technologies that are excluded in Ukraine.

Why is such a game going on against us and, in particular, against Donbass? Because the United States and its henchmen, the Kiev Nazis headed for militarization, the creation of a dictatorial Nazi regime, and full mobilization against Russia. Although this mobilization does not meet with general enthusiasm, nevertheless, look at the dynamics: if in December there were two thousand Nazis in Kiev, in February there were already 20 thousand armed Nazis, in May - 50 thousand together with the military men whom they recruited in the middle their summers will be 100 thousand, in September - 200 thousand according to the plan of mobilization of the population of draft age. By the end of the year, they will put under arms half a million people. Military equipment is being mothballed, Ukraine has a large army, it is mothballed, but the Kharkov industry is working today, as they say, "in full steam", restoring Tanks and armored vehicles. Depreservation of tanks, their revitalization and easy modernization is not a very complicated thing ... The same goes for aircraft.

What do we get? The military machine aimed against us, nashpigovany Nazis, who are ideologically charged against Russia and act as punitive and detachments for the military, pushing them back to war. The ultimate goal of all this action is war with Russia. We can't sit out. And we will not be able, having lost the Donbass, to keep peace, because the next goal that is declared is Crimea. And this is not a joke ... And Poroshenko officially stated this, that his goal is a war with Russia, because you cannot return the Crimea in a different way. Nuland, who was in Odessa yesterday (9 June), said quite clearly that they were expecting a war with Russia from their Ukrainian agents for the Crimea. This half-million armada of people will move to the Crimea, there is no doubt about that, Glazyev stressed.

In conclusion, he added:

- I want to remind Churchill's famous words that who between shame and war chooses shame gets both war and shame at the same time ... This does not mean that we now need to go to Kiev by tanks, but at least stop the genocide population, we have the right ... To do this, it is enough to close the sky and use the same mechanism of suppression of heavy equipment used against the population, which was used by the same Americans in Libya ... We still have the opportunity to do it. In half a year there will be no such possibility.

In addition, the adviser to the Russian president proposed to consider Ukraine only as "the territory occupied by the United States."
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  1. +43
    11 2014 June
    Only who will decide on this, over the gas Khokhly again Gazprom bent yesterday, some kind of nonsense ..
    1. 0
      11 2014 June
      This only needs money. They laid a bolt on 38 on ordinary people. In addition, this is a huge amount of money to the budget of Russia. You don’t really show off without this money. For the sake of at least some crumbs bend. Maybe in vain, but maybe not. Strongly harm the economy, too. And then we will not eat anything. And everyone will immediately cry that Putin and them, and the DNI, and the LC have thrown. And all is natural for the sake of its own benefits, and besides, it turns out that Putin bought some island.
    2. 0
      11 2014 June
      I did not really understand. Bandarlogs go to war in Russia?
      They, that, are not completely friends with their heads, or someone's fantasies are such that also does not indicate friendship.
      1. -18
        11 2014 June
        Glazyev is not always friends with his head
        1. dmb
          +3
          11 2014 June
          And for which the peasant was instructed to draw minuses. if someone thinks that the phrase: "Tymoshenko threatened to drop an atomic bomb, and this is not just emotions" testifies to "friendship with the head," then it is just right for them to keep a company of both Tymoshenko and Glazyev when the latter visit a psychiatrist. I understand that "imaginative thinking" is the strong point of our "political scientists and economists", but the President's advisor, it seems to me, should not stoop to the level of a pub. However, the proverb about priest and parish is appropriate here. The Guarantor allows himself in his speeches the phraseology from places of imprisonment than the advisers are worse than him.
          1. koshh
            +4
            11 2014 June
            Quote: dmb
            but the adviser to the President, it seems to me, should not fall to the level of the beer hall.


            What is his fault? In what he quoted, without quotes, the words of Tymoshenko? And if she, in her thinking and statements, corresponds to the level of the pub, but at the same time she was a candidate for president. What is the fault of the adviser if he quotes a famous Ukrainian politician? And if in Ukraine all politicians, up to one in the city, come out, just to insult us and annoy us, then every sane person has the right to express his opinion and his position with regard to these dragons. And even in the pub. By the way, and GDP at one time met with the Germans in Moscow in a beer restaurant.
        2. +3
          11 2014 June
          Friends, friends ... Not so expressed, he is a "serial traitor." In order to understand this, it is necessary to look at the stages of his political career - a continuous series of betrayals ... Jumping from the camp of "liberals" to the camp of "patriots" (at the same time he managed to shit on everyone)
          Regarding the article - a set of populist slogans and crazy ideas
          This half million armada of people will move to the Crimea, there is no doubt about it- emphasized Glazyev.

          Accordingly, Donbass has an excellent basis for forming its own financial system, issuing its own currency. Of course, takes about two months
          1. koshh
            +1
            11 2014 June
            Quote: stroitel
            Friends, friends ... Not so expressed, he is a "serial traitor." In order to understand this, it is necessary to look at the stages of his political career - a continuous series of betrayals ... Jumping from the camp of "liberals" to the camp of "patriots" (at the same time he managed to shit on everyone)


            Then what is your attitude to the person who today Glazyev is an adviser?
            1. +1
              11 2014 June
              Okay Glazyev (he really, fortunately, did not steer anything). And what advice does the former Minister of Education Andrei Fursenko give? Slashed a little in due time? Or ex-Minister of Health Tatyana Golikova? I’m embarrassed to ask if there is a defense adviser (and who holds this position)
          2. 0
            11 2014 June
            Glazyev is a very serious and competent economist. But not a politician. His opinion is an attempt by certain circles to bring to the awareness of our President the essence of what is happening. It is from his, economist's point of view. And those who share his point of view.
            Just as we make the same attempt to express the opinion of our people, their parts.
        3. koshh
          +1
          11 2014 June
          Quote: stroitel
          Glazyev is not always friends with his head


          Is this why he is an adviser to GDP? Think, dear.
          1. -2
            11 2014 June
            The lured "opposition" sits in such positions as well. What kind of position is this - presidential advisor? What are these advisors responsible for? A good grain position which at different times is occupied by different people (Illarionov, for example, is currently a fiery oppositionist and fighter against the regime). Because The Russian opposition does not work for an idea but for the grandmother, Putin clogs their beak with grandmothers (including). There are many examples of this. The brightest is Alexandrova. Where is she? Has she really moved her horses, so to speak, in the field of the struggle against the bloody regime? Calm down .... sitting with a group of comrades on presidential grants and not buzzing. Mr. Glazyev is from the same cohort.
            1. +1
              11 2014 June
              Quote: koshh
              Think dear

              I will be very grateful if you can familiarize me with the duties of an adviser to the president (and an assistant to the president is also a very interesting post).
      2. +7
        11 2014 June
        I did not really understand. Bandarlogs go to war in Russia?
        They are, that, completely not friends
        Not friends. May go. Yes, they will get on the hill. But this will be a war harder than if Russia had intervened now and all the harder than if they had sent troops in March.
      3. Associate Professor
        +2
        11 2014 June
        Quote: Blondy
        I did not really understand. Bandarlogs go to war in Russia?
        They, that, are not at all friends with the head, or someone's fantasies are such that also does not indicate friendship

        Just put yourself in the shoes of the Americans. You have no doubt that the Bandera is under US control? Would you send this army of cannon fodder to war with your main enemy, especially since Russia itself has a serious fifth US column in power and in the media? At the same time, the Americans themselves remain aloof.
      4. ed65b
        +3
        11 2014 June
        Quote: Blondy
        I did not really understand. Bandarlogs go to war in Russia?
        They, that, are not completely friends with their heads, or someone's fantasies are such that also does not indicate friendship.

        Why not actually? The moral pumping is in full swing. so don’t hesitate to go and go until they dump the remnants of the Crimean population into the sea and what remains of the army there. and the athlete will sigh and ask for money for gas from partners and friends in Ukraine.
      5. nemo150
        +3
        11 2014 June
        They will not be asked. The Yankees will chase them, and they will go. Do not even hesitate.
        They had to be beaten right away, and now it’s not too late. And our commander in chief bargains for dollars.
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    3. +2
      11 2014 June
      Quote: Denis
      Only who will decide on this, over the gas Khokhly again Gazprom bent yesterday, some kind of nonsense ..

      Do not misinterpret the news, please, this is not hoch.ly bent, and the European personally asked to postpone
      1. +3
        11 2014 June
        Quote: Coffee_time
        Do not misinterpret the news, please, this is not hoch.ly bent, and the European personally asked to postpone

        No matter who asked, there is a result not in our favor.
        1. 0
          11 2014 June
          Quote: Denis
          No matter who asked, there is a result not in our favor.

          And where did you get the idea that the overlap will be "in our favor"? Until there is no result, there is a process of bargaining, struggle. The result will be after.
          Well, definitely a moan. Get together)
    4. koshh
      0
      11 2014 June
      Quote: Denis
      Look at the gas Khokhly again Gazprom bent yesterday, some kind of nonsense ..


      Yes, they did not bend us, we ourselves are forced to bend down and maneuver. Imagine, today we will turn off the tap and immediately half of the gas industry will rise. And this is not so simple. It is impossible to stop everything on the stream or it is very difficult, with the ensuing consequences. So it’s not so simple with us either.
  2. +8
    11 2014 June
    And what to feed? Natsik is already unhappy, further more. To the Crimea? Better let them shoot themselves in the field.
    1. -1
      11 2014 June
      they do not need the defeated regions, because they will need to be restored, but they need the money ... they will bomb them harder and recognize their independence and let Russia restore it. Can’t leave without shitting
    2. +1
      11 2014 June
      Hmm ... What pancake grandmother ...? What they gave Bender and then STORED ... !!! Yes, and the Gangsters are not war ... !!! Bendery always differed ONLY IN PUNISHING OPERATIONS ... !!! And then against the civilian population !!!
    3. +5
      11 2014 June
      Americans are already rearming them, and to their flyers who pays money. Not a poor Ukraine, but the USA. They need territory, and in Kiev dolls are sitting. What the owners say to them, they will do it. And the United States needs a war between Ukraine and Russia. Re-equip Ukrainians. Now Gazprom is making gas concessions, and at that time they are clearing the South-East
    4. +3
      11 2014 June
      And what to feed? Natsik is already unhappy, further more. To the Crimea?
      And they say in the Crimea feed themselves and go feed. Why no money? M.O.S.K.A.L. and are to blame.
  3. +1
    11 2014 June
    about half a million "armada", comrade. Glazyev, in my opinion, got excited ... and "De-mothballing of tanks, their revitalization and easy modernization is not a very difficult thing ... The same goes for aircraft."
    1. +10
      11 2014 June
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      about half a million "armada", comrade. Glazyev got excited in my opinion ..

      Yes, they’ll pick up the fools of minors who have played games. Yes, and their TV shows beautiful videos. Then they will run away of course, but there will be thousands of trunks on hand.
      1. +3
        11 2014 June
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        shows beautiful videos

        You can show videos, tanks and other armored vehicles can be re-preserved with varying degrees of success, but you can't get aviation out of your pocket and you can't build it at the Kharkov steam locomotive plant. And "Antonov" never made military equipment. Only Yulia and Farion can be put on brooms. We need a no-fly zone.
        1. +11
          11 2014 June
          Quote: inkass_98
          And "Antonov" never made military equipment
          You do not consider the possibilities from the United States and NATO, albeit not in terms of direct intervention, but the supply of military equipment, including aviation, may well be. Moreover, fighters can be delivered together with mercenary pilots, having painted on the sides of the Ukrainian yellow-blockade identification marks. A no-fly zone is needed after an ultimatum to Ukraine to end the punitive operation. With a more decisive "peace enforcement", the hot heads of the Kiev Nazis could be cooled by a missile and bomb attack on artillery positions on Mount Karachun or on an active base of the Ukrop Air Force. Time will tell what Putin will actually choose (if he chooses), but it would be better if he listened to Glazyev's words and did not waste precious time.
        2. 0
          11 2014 June
          Quote: inkass_98
          but you won’t get aviation out of your pocket and you won’t build it at the Kharkov Locomotive Plant

          Most of the stupid people are sure that it is almost gone in Russia. So there are several combat-ready aircraft. Therefore, they do not care hi
      2. +1
        11 2014 June
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Then scatter of course,

        key phrase. But these will not be the troops, but the rabble mobilized in such conditions, will never become an effective army, now they shoot at their backs, but what will happen there? Yes, and I doubt Sanya that they will wait for mobilization, only they will read it, change apartments and turnouts, scatter who where ... this is happening now as a fact! The half-million army is almost two-thirds of ours, they will collect such hell! ready to hack to death with you on "hennessy"! laughing hi
        1. +4
          11 2014 June
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich

          key phrase. but this is not the troops will be a rabble

          Yes Parache poh on this, how much and what kind of meat dies.
          1. Andrey82
            0
            11 2014 June
            Absolutely true, but FSU. amer. The main thing is that soon Russia will be drawn into the war no matter how hard it tries to prevent the Kremlin. The goal can already be achieved - the Slavs kill the Slavs. In the meantime, the Kremlin has snot, calls for dialogue and a NATO point in Ulyanovsk.
      3. KC4E
        +3
        11 2014 June
        And besides, there will be 30-40% of foreign mercenaries
      4. +6
        11 2014 June
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes, they’ll pick up the fools of minors who have played games in the light. Yes, and their TV shows beautiful videos

        To gain even a million soldiers is a simple matter. And there is something to arm them in Ukraine with. And the tanks were there before a fig, though they were actively selling them, maybe they already sold out?
        Only now the army will not appear from this, but there will be a million men in military uniform. And when, after the first signs of aggression against Crimea, their destruction begins in places of concentration, then Ukraine will finally end.
        True, something is not believed that they will go on such an adventure at all. They have autumn and winter ahead, as well as related problems with the economy, food, and the functioning of the political system.
        1. +3
          11 2014 June
          And when, after the first signs of aggression against Crimea, their destruction begins in places of concentration, then Ukraine will finally end.
          If the supreme commander does not order not to violate the border and not succumb to provocative shelling of our territory. Of course, in order to avoid casualties among the Ukrainian military.
        2. koshh
          0
          11 2014 June
          Quote: andj61
          Only now the army will not appear from this, but there will be a million men in military uniform.

          And behind them are detachments from the "right sector". They don't mind meat, not their own.
  4. +10
    11 2014 June
    Prevent a second Yugoslavia, or a second shame, whatever. We need counter-actions, the Tsereushniki and the State Department calmly walk around as a host in Ukraine, and we, as poor relatives, are squeezing ... It's time to act ...
    1. +6
      11 2014 June
      Quote: mig31
      It's time to act ...

      We are already "acting", Ukraine does not want to pay debts for gas! Gazprom has AGAIN moved the prepayment terms by a week.
      1. 0
        11 2014 June
        Quote: Denis
        Gazprom AGAIN pushed the deadline for prepayment for a week ..

        And where did you get the idea that we are doing this because of Ukrainian gas? European supplies hold us and force us to make concessions. They have not even begun to build a road to the Chinese market, to quarrel with Europe is not a task, the task is close cooperation with it, not confrontation.
        That's why we are talking with the EURO Commissioner, in addition to the UKRO Commissioner.
        Stop crying about the timing.
        1. +3
          11 2014 June
          It seems to me more and more that negotiations are not about gas! We argue with Europe who will feed the territories of the former Ukraine. They don’t want, we’re tired. This is for a long time! But .... winter is just around the corner
        2. +2
          11 2014 June
          Quote: huut
          Stop crying about the timing.

          Do not cry but speak!
        3. koshh
          0
          11 2014 June
          Quote: huut
          European supplies hold us and force us to make concessions.


          And this is the result of our economic policy. Still sitting on the gas needle. Money should be invested in the economy and industrial development for a long time and urgently, and not afford to poke.
  5. +1
    11 2014 June
    close the sky and use the same mechanism of suppression of heavy equipment used against the population, which the same Americans used in Libya ... We still have the opportunity to do this. Six months later, this opportunity will no longer be.

    It is high time to close the sky and intensify the provision of comprehensive assistance to Novorossiya. As for gas, it’s more of a game. Moreover, the Bulgarian "brothers" and Serbia entered it against us. Apparently, we do not know everything yet.
  6. Death to the Nazis
    +9
    11 2014 June
    Advisor to the President of Russia Sergey Glazyev is right. And if soon
    the president of Russia will not take adequate measures - goryushka will be tasted not only in the Donbass.
    1. +4
      11 2014 June
      Quote: Death to the Fascists
      Advisor to the President of Russia Sergey Glazyev is right. And if soon
      the president of Russia will not take adequate measures - goryushka will be tasted not only in the Donbass.

      The logic of the Russian authorities is not at all clear.
      It was enough to mine once to preventively reduce the pressure in the pipe and the conversation would have been in different tones. And Europe changed its mind with its energy package and Ukraine.
      With a military operation. Once we are so afraid to send an army there that we don’t have enough strength to cover this part with an air defense umbrella? To send a group of spotters of fire and smash a couple of warehouses, accumulations of equipment, you can find hundreds
      1. +4
        11 2014 June
        The oligarchs - and they have one homeland - money, were very afraid of US sanctions. Judging by the reaction of the government and the commander in chief, they are as popular as in Ukraine. And if recently I was very proud of my Homeland, now it’s harder to bear the shame from the current attitude of the authorities to the deaths of civilians in Novorossia from the barbaric shelling of cities by the Kiev junta. One well-known figure threatened that NATO would not be allowed into Ukraine, that this was unacceptable to Russia. Apparently the words of this figure are already worthless. NATO in all structures of Ukraine, including the SBU, the government, and in fact leads and controls military operations against New Russia.
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  7. 0
    11 2014 June
    The Russian statement (S / 1995/261) of April 5, 1995 contains the following provisions:
    “The Russian Federation will not use nuclear weapons against the states that are parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons that do not possess nuclear weapons, except in the event of an invasion or any other attack on the Russian Federation, its territory, its armed forces or other troops, its allies or the state, with which it has an obligation with respect to the security exercised or supported by such a non-nuclear-weapon state, jointly or in the presence of allied obligations with the nuclear-weapon state. "
    1. 0
      11 2014 June
      And what is it for? Kiev destroys "their" hail, and we add weapons of mass destruction? Or are the population of Novorossiya the same enemies for you as for Kiev?
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  8. +3
    11 2014 June
    "Putin's Advisor: After the enslavement of Donbass, half a million Nazi armada will move to Crimea"

    Wrong adviser, or article title.
    In Hoh .land they are well aware that they will no longer see Crimea. What armada? Do not tell my mouth, my lips are cracking .. GDP and so keeps itself from the FAS team! There are also "partners".
    1. +4
      11 2014 June
      I don’t know, I don’t know ..., correct, not correct, but it would be more than possible to establish a no-fly zone. At least....
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    3. tokin1959
      +7
      11 2014 June
      Until June 22, 1941, they also thought so - which Germans? what attack? in a week we’ll tear their asses on German crosses.
      however, everything was different.
      so it’s necessary to act now, and not wait until Piglet picks up an army; they’ll gain little experience in battles in the Donbass and rush to the Crimea.
      Glazyev is right.
  9. -6
    11 2014 June
    Minus the article, but not for the content but for the stupid clicky headline.
  10. maxim1
    -1
    11 2014 June
    "After the enslavement of Donbass"? "Move to Crimea ..."
    The first is doubtful.
    The second one too. Plus Georgia will receive 0808 No. 2.
    1. +3
      11 2014 June
      Already not received. And after a barbaric regular bombardment by the Kiev junta of the inhabitants of Slavyansk with hail, not only there was no indignation, but the free supply of gas was extended to the Bandera-fascists.
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  11. +6
    11 2014 June
    And Poroshenko officially announced this, that his goal is a war with Russia, because Crimea cannot be returned in another way. Nuland, who was in Odessa yesterday (9 June), said very clearly what they expect from their Ukrainian agents to wage war with Russia over the Crimea. This half-million armada of people will move to the Crimea, there is no doubt about that, ”said Glazyev.

    If Russia sends troops to the outskirts, it will look like aggression and occupation in the eyes of the whole world. If the outskirts trample on the Crimea it will be an invasion of Russia. And consequently, Ukrainians will receive an adequate response. The hands of Russia will be untied to the real partition of Ukraine.
    And what chiches even contain the 200 thousandth army and modernize the equipment. Yusovtsy will not throw so much, and even if they throw it, at least half of the dough in the pockets of all kinds of powders and other eggs will settle. It is doubtful in general.
    But to spoil for everyone, the same terrorist attacks in the Crimea may well be.
    1. +3
      11 2014 June
      Quote: VengefulRat
      If Russia sends troops to the outskirts, it will look like aggression and occupation in the eyes of the whole world.

      Here you are absolutely right.
      Quote: VengefulRat
      If the outskirts trample on the Crimea it will be an invasion of Russia.

      And here, please, explain which of the same "whole world" recognized the annexation of Crimea by us - legal, and which of them would condemn the "just impulse" of the Ukrainians to liberate their land?
      You have probably forgotten that Russia is not the United States, and according to the concepts of "the whole world" we have only "international obligations", and "international rights" are only for the United States.
      So we need to act without special regard for "international law", since we simply do not have it.
    2. koshh
      +1
      11 2014 June
      Quote: VengefulRat
      If the outskirts trample on the Crimea it will be an invasion of Russia. And consequently, Ukrainians will receive an adequate response. The hands of Russia will be untied to the real partition of Ukraine.


      And it seems to me that not only the division of Ukraine, but perhaps even the reunification of Yugoslavia, and maybe something else.
  12. +6
    11 2014 June
    I would like to understand, at least in general terms, how the Russian Federation is going to react to a very likely threat, why we are showing excessive "flexibility" in gas. It's time for the President to break the protracted silence and address the Russians.
    1. +3
      11 2014 June
      The oligarchs have already addressed the president with fears for their capital from US sanctions. Reaction to the face.
      President of the Russian oligarchy.
      The people of Russia gave the President carte blanche to take any action in defense of the Russian population of Novorossia. We will tolerate sanctions. We will restore and develop our industry. Crimea is returned. Fine. And now a 180-degree turn. And in response to the hailings of cities of New Russia, there is only one action - a free supply of gas to the Bandera-fascists. Just a brain vomiting.
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  13. +4
    11 2014 June
    Interesting! Is this article an unauthorized act by a representative of the presidential administration, or preparing the opinion of the population of our country for hostilities?
    1. koshh
      0
      11 2014 June
      Quote: Letnab
      Interesting! Is this article an unauthorized act by a representative of the presidential administration, or preparing the opinion of the population of our country for hostilities?


      I doubt that in such positions and with such experience, someone can allow themselves to act unauthorized. Most likely this is a preliminary opinion poll of Russians.
  14. 0
    11 2014 June
    I do not think that Ukraine will fight with Russia. These are not comparable states in military power, even taking into account the canned equipment of the Soviet period. An attack on the Crimea will completely free Russia’s hands and then the Russian troops will enter the South-East of Ukraine, and maybe even reach the border of 1939. Such a scenario does not suit NATO. And even more so the European Union. They need a buffer zone with Russia, which from time to time can be turned into a zone of instability, simultaneously blaming Russia for this and bargaining for favorable conditions in various fields, as well as showing the rest of the world that Russia is still an evil empire, although it has changed color but you can’t trust her.
    1. dilyanna
      0
      11 2014 June
      maybe USA and Great. have you reached the pen? that they are not small enough countries? Do you need a big one? and the rest of the CIS countries that have raw material bases ... O. Bardak behaves very defiantly
      For 10-30 years they will not wait until the zapadents settle in the southeast in order to come closer to our borders.
      The article pleases that at least someone objectively tries to reason aloud from politicians. By the way, Mironov in the State Duma spoke about the recognition of the status of the republics and the genocide ... while the Kremlin is silent ... we will wait 16, and then again and again, as they had expected before, starting from May 11
  15. 0
    11 2014 June
    Glazyev is a good economist, but here, in my opinion, he is exaggerating. Move to the Crimea Armed Forces, it must be a suicide. I strained the dill with the brains, but here the self-preservation instinct should work.
    1. +2
      11 2014 June
      I agree with all your comments, except for the first three words.
    2. koshh
      0
      11 2014 June
      Quote: mamont5
      but here the self-preservation instinct should work.

      Exactly - the instinct of self-preservation. They have no choice. "Either pan or disappear." They will disappear 100%, but if they attack, there is a chance to escape to the mattress toppers. Since they will never be masters, they will be slaves at the mattress makers, but they will be alive.
  16. +1
    11 2014 June
    Glazyev is right in the most important thing — Donbass, if he floats away from ukroin, then this whole project — the ukroin state — will begin to fall apart intensely — which they certainly deserve.
  17. yulka2980
    0
    11 2014 June
    What should we be afraid of? We need to take an example from the USSR, it was x ..! The main thing is that then the Ukrainians themselves do not change their minds, otherwise it already happened in history ...
    1. N.Zero
      +1
      11 2014 June
      Quote: yulka2980
      What should we be afraid of? We must take an example from the USSR, they were x ..!

      In the USSR there were Warlords World War II, who had rich practical experience in conducting both offensive and defensive operations of formations (divisions, corps) and associations (army, navy, front).
      5 days experience "forcing Georgia to peace" modern Russian military leaders are clearly not enough to carry out an operational-strategic operation against the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
      Around Slavyansk, dill concentrated forces and assets approximately equal to the combined-arms army corps.
      And how do you like the night breakthrough of a Ukrainian tank or motorized rifle battalion to Belgorod - "to bleed the maskals"?
      It’s only in the Mi-28N KINS that an entire tank company clicks like in a dash,
      and the Ukrainian armored vehicles in those places will pass wherever you want - without asking with the cover of military air defense systems such as "Buk", "Tunguska", "Strela-10"
  18. nvv
    nvv
    +1
    11 2014 June
    In addition, an adviser to the Russian president suggested that Ukraine be seen only as “the territory occupied by the United States.” USA? Is it really not visible that this is only a weapon in the hands of puppeteers? The only US interest is to embroil Europe and Russia. The goal is gas. And to draw Russia into the war. The goal is to reduce the public debt. The interested parties here-
  19. M72
    +7
    11 2014 June
    I also do not understand our position on gas. I think it already looks ridiculous.
    1. +2
      11 2014 June
      What's so incomprehensible here. Ukraine will not be able to pay its debts in a month, and the postponement of "sanctions" is a gesture of Russia's goodwill and a "drawing" of the true state of affairs in Ukraine in the eyes of ALL Europeans, and not the EU's chief power engineer. The Europeans should understand that Ukraine is "using" Europe for "its" American purposes.
      1. -1
        11 2014 June
        It has already dawned on the geyrops that Russia can be given, and gas will be in any way. Even due to the free gas supply to the 45 millionth country. Soon Bandera will sell our free gas to the geyropa at reduced prices, and then NATO will use any force against Russia to maintain the status quo. But the president of the Russian oligarchy is unable to calculate such an elementary step of the enemies.
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  20. Dbnfkmtdbx
    +1
    11 2014 June
    Crimea territory of Russia who in Russia what fascists already had and what? and who else wants to try, come one at a time, you can all together, and if that we ourselves come just hint angry
  21. +5
    11 2014 June
    Correctly, Glazyev does what scares us with the army of Ukraine, and there was a lot of hatred on the site, it is embarrassing to get into the situation in Ukraine, the state is a state all the more so zombie, the army, it’s an army in Africa, whatever nor was it collapsed, it has reserves of all kinds of weapons and ammunition. To really figure out, a state that has an army doesn’t need to put out the fire that is raging in Donbas, they will crush them if they want to.
  22. 0
    11 2014 June
    With all due respect to Glazyev, let him better deal with economic issues. In military matters, he understands something like a pig in oranges.
  23. tokin1959
    0
    11 2014 June
    If advisers to the president begin to talk about it publicly - perhaps this is the last warning to the junta of the bloody Pig.
    although judging by reports from the fronts, weapons never arrive.
    though the aviation didn’t seem to be used - apparently there are already no guarantees of returning to the airfield after the attack)))
    when we read the summary - that the artillery had spread Mount Karachun - then the militia has weapons and a turning point in the battles will come.
  24. +1
    11 2014 June
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    .... on hand will be thousands of trunks.


    And bloody chaos will go ..... the Americans are trying to destroy everything in Syria .... they don’t need people or industry, the main thing for them is that Russia doesn’t get it. According to this Putin, it is necessary to make a decision how to stop this chaos and the sooner the better ... by the fall it may be too late ...
  25. +1
    11 2014 June
    I do not have a very high opinion of the Kremlin’s Russian patriotism, but a war for the return of Crimea will mean the end of Ukrainian statehood, and possibly a complete geopolitical redistribution in the post-Soviet space.
    Well, about the half-millionth Ukrainian army, Glazyev, of course, is fantasizing. A maximum of Ukrainians can collect 80 thousand carcasses.
    1. dilyanna
      +1
      11 2014 June
      the fact of the matter is that they are destroying their army and the sooner the DPR destroys them, the better for the Ukrainian authorities, then the officers will enter the Americans and other mercenaries ... this is the goal of the United States and the Ukrainian.
  26. 3vs
    -2
    11 2014 June
    Yes, I’m flogging some.
    There are no fools to fight Russia seriously.
  27. Elena Urzhumova
    +1
    11 2014 June
    You give a no-fly zone! And without the use of heavy equipment.
  28. +1
    11 2014 June
    In addition, the adviser to the Russian president proposed to consider Ukraine only as "the territory occupied by the United States."


    Here, I completely agree.
    1. +1
      11 2014 June
      Quote: gandalf
      In addition, the adviser to the Russian president proposed to consider Ukraine only as "the territory occupied by the United States."


      Here, I completely agree.

      I support. Now in fact it is. The existing government in Ukraine does not have its own national policy, but pursues US policy.
      1. N.Zero
        +1
        11 2014 June
        Quote: andj61
        The existing government in Ukraine does not have its own national policy, but pursues US policy.

        in the United States, too, they think so, but you don’t know the Ukrainian cunning lol
        hto with pennies, that and pan! wink
  29. +2
    11 2014 June
    Quote: tokin1959
    If advisers to the president begin to talk about it publicly - perhaps this is the last warning to the junta of the bloody Pig.
    although judging by reports from the fronts, weapons never arrive.
    though the aviation didn’t seem to be used - apparently there are already no guarantees of returning to the airfield after the attack)))

    when we read the summary - that the artillery had spread Mount Karachun - then the militia has weapons and a turning point in the battles will come.


    The DNR’s military capacities replenished Iskander missiles.

    Jun. 11th, 2014 at 2: 43 AM





    The DNR’s military capacities replenished Iskander missiles. This was reported on his page on the social network by journalist Maxim Ravreba, referring separately to the observing audience, which was supposed to notice that the aircraft of Ukrainian punishers had not taken off the last day.
    “Iskander in the DPR.
    Noticed that dill in the last day do not fly? Here is the non-flying weather generator! He is already here, ”the publicist said.
    To questions of doubters that this could be true, Maxim assured that the information was true.
    “This is not a fake. If you closely watched the movements and operations of the militia, then you would easily have guessed where the complexes arrived, ”Ravreba dryly noted.
    Help
    Iskander is a group of operational tactical missile systems (OTRK) produced by the Russian Federation. The sample was presented in August 1999 of the year at the MAX aerospace salon.
    Designed for engaging combat units in conventional equipment of small and area targets in the depths of the operational formation of enemy forces. It is suggested that it could be a tactical nuclear weapon delivery vehicle.
    Most likely goals:
    1) fire weapons (missile systems, multiple launch rocket systems, long-range artillery),
    2) missile and air defense systems, airplanes and helicopters at aerodromes,
    3) command posts and communication nodes,
    4) the most important civilian infrastructure.

    Alexander Nikishin
    Central News Agency Novorossia


    from the militia:

    during the week sUrpryz awaits you, compared with which an attack by the IMR checkpoint will seem like babble

    http://etoonda.livejournal.com/150840.html
    introduction of a no-fly zone? soldier
    1. +3
      11 2014 June
      Quote: ZaPutina
      The DNR’s military capacities replenished Iskander missiles.

      I DO NOT BELIEVE! - Since I have a good idea of ​​what Iskander is.
      1. N.Zero
        +2
        11 2014 June
        Quote: andj61
        I DO NOT BELIEVE! - Since I have a good idea of ​​what Iskander is.

        and grandmother on the bench about "Mace" they said ... and I BELIEVE them! wassat
        "misinformation" smells like dill ... (C)
        wink
  30. 0
    11 2014 June
    I agree about half a million, but it will probably be in the form of refugees, since soon a humanitarian catastrophe will not only be in Sloviansk, but throughout Ukraine. The United States will certainly sponsor the ATO, but sponsoring the economy is much more difficult and costly. We are looking forward to the beginning of winter 2014 - these are the cases when the winter season will play against the "Westerners".
  31. -1
    11 2014 June
    Adequate perception of reality. More such advisers to the President.
  32. +1
    11 2014 June
    Quote: nikoli25
    they do not need the defeated regions, because they will need to be restored, but they need the money ... they will bomb them harder and recognize their independence and let Russia restore it. Can’t leave without shitting
    1. 0
      11 2014 June
      Kote has more chances to return eggs than dill to return Crimea.
  33. +3
    11 2014 June
    - I want to remind Churchill's famous words that who between shame and war chooses shame gets both war and shame at the same time ... This does not mean that we now need to go to Kiev by tanks, but at least stop the genocide population, we have the right ... To do this, it is enough to close the sky and use the same mechanism of suppression of heavy equipment used against the population, which was used by the same Americans in Libya ... We still have the opportunity to do it. In half a year there will be no such possibility.

    Good idea. However, Putin is listening to other advisers. Negotiations. Geneva. Gas. Wait snot, really get both shame and war.
  34. Ogorod007
    +3
    11 2014 June
    It is necessary to do a social survey in Russia on whether we need to help New Russia or not. At the same time, it must be said that sanctions will be imposed against us and the people of Russia will be ready for this or not. I think that we need to understand that sanctions against us in a small version will be so if we do not help the militias. If we help, then sanctions will be in a larger version, but then the people of Russia must understand that this is necessary so that in 10 years, a millionth pack of banderlogs does not come to our homeland to kill our children. Therefore, it can sometimes be tolerated. You can’t get something without making an effort. The winners are not judged. And so it’s already ridiculous to become Poroshenko promises everything for gas to stop the war, and the Russian government believes in everything as a little child.
    1. +2
      11 2014 June
      then the people of Russia should understand that this is necessary so that in 10 years the millionth pack of banderlogs doesn’t come to our homeland to kill our children
      I think much earlier.
  35. +3
    11 2014 June
    Although this mobilization does not meet with general enthusiasm, nevertheless, look at the dynamics: if in December there were two thousand Nazis in Kiev, in February there were already 20 thousand armed Nazis, in May - 50 thousand together with the military personnel they recruited in the middle their summer will be 100 thousand, in September - 200 thousand according to the plan of mobilization of the population of draft age. By the end of the year, they will put under arms half a million people.
    That is why the troops had to be introduced in March.
  36. 0
    11 2014 June
    And we cannot, having lost the Donbass, keep the peace, because the next goal that is being declared is Crimea. And this is not a joke ... And Poroshenko officially announced this, that his goal is a war with Russia, because Crimea cannot be returned in another way. Nuland, who was in Odessa yesterday (9 June), said very clearly what they expect from their Ukrainian agents to wage war with Russia over the Crimea. This half-million armada of people will move to the Crimea, there is no doubt about that, ”said Glazyev.
    That's why it was necessary to send troops in March. Not those advisers are listening to the president.
  37. pahom54
    +2
    11 2014 June
    Words, words ... After all, Glazyev practically said the same thing that we are talking about here ... And the conclusion of the ending of the article is unambiguous: Russia cannot be given Donbass to the Ukronazis. Well ??? What is the matter, who is preventing Russia from closing the skies over the Donbass, who is stopping the provision of assistance with weapons, food and medicine ?! Indeed, we really have a land mine close by, which, as some say, “has not completely exploded” yet, but these ukrobedouins from Galicia, who cannot do anything but basl, rob, kill, will easily carry this land mine to the territory of Russia , as evidenced by the statement of the Chairman of the FSB on the prevented acts of terrorism. It is necessary to take a tough, uncompromising position in relation to Ukraine and especially to the United States. I have already said that the States feel themselves inaccessible to other people's weapons, so you need to think something and muddy the waters near their borders. Then, at least for a while, they will forget about Europe, and about the Outskirts in particular ...
  38. +1
    11 2014 June
    Kaklam is beneficial war with Russia. Of course, they won’t return Crimea and lose the Donbass, but they will receive the consolidation of the nation against the backdrop of Russian aggression. Plus western help
    ь
  39. lg41
    +2
    11 2014 June
    Quote: Blondy
    I did not really understand. Bandarlogs go to war in Russia?

    Yes they will. Through Rostov to the Caucasus.
    They will be "forced" to respond to the attacks of Russian saboteurs
  40. +1
    11 2014 June
    And time, oddly enough, works for the Nazis. On the one hand, we have the expectation that this regime will collapse under the rubble of insoluble socio-economic problems. But this did not happen in Georgia. Saakashvili was thrown out of there not as a result of social rebellion, but as a result of the application of democratic technologies, which are excluded in Ukraine.

    That's it. The regime in Kiev will never fall if you do not help and push. Those who hope so - let them take off their pink glasses.
    ..
    In addition, the adviser to the Russian president proposed to consider Ukraine only as "the territory occupied by the United States."

    That is true, but there are no regular parts of the USA in Ukraine. And the fact that there are all kinds of advisers is not an occupation.
  41. +3
    11 2014 June
    In the morning I read the news about a shift in the prepayment deadline for Ukraine ...
    First thought: "Well, what the hell is your mother ...
    Someone will have steel eggs ... "
  42. Ogorod007
    +2
    11 2014 June
    Guys of troops we do not need to be led into the Syrian version. The first delivery of modern weapons to the militias is a charge, and so on. The second is to take a couple of billion from this asshole Yanukovych and also transfer them to the militias. And against this background, to stretch until the fall. And there in the fall, economic dissatisfaction of people from Ukrainians sowing seeds didn’t exist; utility bills grew; as well as a bunch of funerals, there’s a social explosion. If this does not help, and Kiev will throw all the military power on the militias and they will start to lose. Then you can find a million reasons why we can send peacekeeping troops to declare a no-fly zone, etc. It’s just a shame when our rulers say one thing and do the other, and at the same time they think the Russian people are bad, they all misbehave. My opinion is that in the government there sanctions not to lose denyushk and what they kill so do not care. Here Volodya is now sitting on the pope and tells his people a tale that everything must be decided honestly. It turns out like in that proverb e ... T and we are husband
  43. +2
    11 2014 June
    The people who think that the Nazis will go to Crimea in a large army, for some reason, do not discuss the problem of the northern rear of Ukraine that was exposed at the same time. The attack on the Crimea is a direct military action, which can receive a "response" not only in the direction from the smogy Crimea, but also from the East and North-East.
    I am not an expert in the field of military strategy, but so far I do not see errors in my reasoning. Therefore, I believe that there will be no direct and stupid attack on the Crimea, where the hell of a man should be gathered, precisely because of the second front from the North-East. Ukraine cannot do it alone. That is why there were all these cries about NATO's request for "help". And here I strongly doubt that NATO has any prospects for this. In a way, they had more excuses to do it for Sahak in Georgia. And now they cannot appear in full growth in Ukraine - a civil war is going on in the country.
    Many talk about a possible underestimation of the enemy. But honestly, what logic (even a sick one!) Can explain Potroshenko and Co.'s hopes for reconciliation with Donbas ?! This is some kind of childhood and not politics! Moreover - some kind of pathetic semblance of leadership. In Africa, even dictators seem to be more serious ...
  44. 0
    11 2014 June
    Nothing wrong. We will "scan" the clusters of their equipment.
  45. Hyperboreec
    +2
    11 2014 June
    Glazyev is certainly cool in his statements, but this does not mean that you can not listen to them and draw the necessary conclusions.
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  47. shortage
    0
    11 2014 June
    Why is everyone ignoring Poroshenko’s statement about how he will return the Crimea? And he said that when the Crimeans see the Ukrainians rich, free and happy, they will use the method of transition to Russia and will move back to Ukraine. Maybe because this is a military site?
  48. P-38
    +4
    11 2014 June
    It has already reached the geyropa that Russia can be given, and the gas will be anyway

    It seems to me that our colleague has hit the nail on the head. They understand only that. When Russia and the Soviet Union showed and are showing tolerance, restraint, they interpret it simply and primitively - the Russians were scared. When to give them a forehead - Russian aggressors! And there will be no other reaction from them; nobody will appreciate our nobility there.
  49. SIT
    +1
    11 2014 June
    Glazyev is an economic adviser, not a military one. How will the Ukrainian army attack Crimea? Through the isthmus, which is shot along and across? Through Sivash, where can you put hundreds of thousands of modern weapons? Landing of sea and airborne assault forces without dominance at sea and in the air? These are all utopian options. But to use Crimea as an excuse for exporting controlled chaos to Russia in the form of a shaft of terrorist attacks is what is required from the leadership of Ukraine by their owners. This is what the late Ukrainian general Kulchitsky mentioned in his interview. Explosions thundered at stations and at airports, passenger trains like the Nevsky Express once went downhill. Is it really a problem now to drag a couple of dozens of MANPADS into Russia and arrange an air defense day at a Moscow air hub? The US concept of controlled chaos does not at all provide for some kind of open collision with the country's armed forces into which this very chaos is exported. On the contrary, such clashes should be avoided, and kill as many ordinary people as possible to sow panic and horror. In this case, you and I will be killed on the way to work, maybe right in the house like in 1999, or maybe on take-off, when we fly on vacation to relax and relax. What Glazyev is right about is that there is not much time left to make the right decision.
  50. ed65b
    +3
    11 2014 June
    The fact is that many may think Glazyev’s words are nonsense, but this is real. what he says is reality. Ukraine is ready to fight. two months ago they laughed that the tanks were stalling and the planes weren’t flying, that the army was gone and that they had all gone. But it turned out that they all had guns and shells and the Air Force, and the soldiers were ready to shoot at everything that was moving. And having gained a hand in the war with Novorosia and also having won it, they will be so motivated that they will no doubt fall on the Crimea, Belgorod Rostov and Kursk. You can say that our army will break them and in orderly columns will go to Kiev. I emphasize the entire population of Ukraine, it will be extremely hostile to us, especially the southeast will hate us. 45 million people who hate Russia, what will you do with them?
    1. 0
      11 2014 June
      And having gained a hand in the war with Novorosia and also having won in it


      Well, we'll see ...
    2. 0
      11 2014 June
      And having gained a hand in the war with Novorosia and also having won in it


      Well, we'll see ...
      1. ed65b
        0
        11 2014 June
        I myself advocate for the victory of Novorosia. hi
  51. 0
    11 2014 June
    You can throw a tsunami of criticism at me, but I will stick to my opinion. NO ECONOMIC EDUCATION WILL ACHIEVE TO HIGHER EDUCATION. TOO NARROW WORLDVIEW COVERAGE OF REALITY. Whatever economists advise, this is only the private opinion of a narrow specialist.
  52. ed65b
    +1
    11 2014 June
    He expressed his opinion, who can argue about this? The debate is about whether he is right or not and how our forum members feel about his words.
  53. sergei2308
    +2
    11 2014 June
    A completely natural and real development of the situation!
  54. donechin1
    +2
    11 2014 June
    I don’t know about gas policy, but you need to listen to the adviser’s presentation, the United States will spare no expense for all sorts of attempts at major provocations, and if it sees benefit in this for itself, it will clearly begin to strengthen the military potential for the Ukrainians and, subject to the fall of Donbass, all this the crowd will trample on us, at first cowardly and then more and more brazenly - and it’s also true about Crimea - none of the opponents will forget it - crests (Western) are the most vindictive people on earth. I lived among them from birth. I would like to add that we should not forget build illusions about our mighty army that will defeat everyone - yes, our army is strong, but there is no economy, so even though we want us to bend everyone ... but the pipe (gas) is a complete brake and dependence if we have to fight then with everyone. And it’s very expensive.
  55. 0
    11 2014 June
    Quote: Denis
    Only who will decide on this, over the gas Khokhly again Gazprom bent yesterday, some kind of nonsense ..


    Another question is who bent whom, we need to understand the subtle politics in the big game.

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