The second body of Vladimir Putin

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Today, no one will argue that story, contrary to the predictions of Francis Fukuyama, did not end, and unipolarity, which claimed a stable paradigm of the future, turned out to be nothing more than an episode, a moment (Charles Krauthammer), which is already in the past. We live in history, not after the end. The events in the Middle East, in Europe, and especially in Ukraine, show that opposition to antagonistic forces continues in the world, although the nature of this opposition has changed from ideological (capitalism against socialism) to civilizational. Confrontation is history, since history is always the semantics of alternating war and peace. And war and peace make sense only when there is their opposite. In a world where there is no war, there will be no peace, since the world will lose its meaning. Therefore, while there is war, there is history. And she is, therefore, Fukuyama hurried, which, however, he himself admitted.

One of the subjects of the new tension, one of the participants in cold or hot conflicts, and, therefore, one of the active figures of history - modern Russia. Russia returned to history from oblivion at the beginning of the 2000s, and this return coincided with the era of Vladimir Putin. Putin, by his coming to the presidency of Russia, signified this return. But such a return is fraught with conflicts and is measured by conflicts. Putin became who he is after winning a victory in the Second Chechen campaign. He stopped the seemingly inevitable disintegration of Russia, and having won this war, he again made Russia a subject.

In a sense, it was Putin who contributed to the fact that the end of history did not happen, and the unipolar moment, on the contrary, ended. By stopping internal disintegration, Putin created the prerequisites for starting the aftermath of what he himself called the “biggest geopolitical catastrophe of the twentieth century” —that is, the collapse of the USSR. Here the emphasis should be put on the word "geopolitical". Hardly Putin mourned socialism as an ideology. He clearly had in mind the disintegration of that strategic whole, which can be called Greater Russia - whether in the Orthodox monarchical edition of the Russian Empire or in the form of the Bolshevik USSR. Ideologies were polar, geopolitics identical. Putin spoke precisely about geopolitics, and it was to the restoration of Russia's geopolitical status as a great world power that all Putin's reforms were directed.

For a start, it was necessary to restore sovereignty: full state control over the territories, then over large private monopolies, general federal media, and the political system. In the 90 of the twentieth century, external control was almost fully established in the country and sovereignty was weakened - if not lost. But restoring sovereignty and coping with challenges, Putin increased the level of confrontation with the pole of the unipolar world, which tried to extend its hegemony, which almost became an irreversible reality after the end of the USSR. These are directly interconnected things: the stronger and more independent Russia is, the more severe pressure on it comes from the West. But this is the story - the conflict between the hierarchical instances of humanity: the world powers are competing with each other, the regional powers between themselves, and the countries weaker fit into the framework of freedom of action that remains to them in the power balance structure of the larger players.

The main world power is the United States, and Putin’s restoration of Russia's status could not help but increase the level of tension. Russia claimed to be a world, not just a regional power, but after the 90 disaster, no one in the West (at least no one in the atlantist elites of the West) was going to admit this without a serious fight. Returning to history, Putin raised the degree of confrontation. It could not be otherwise: the balance between the leading centers of power is formed on the basis of the power of each of them, and no one will ever be able to watch the increase in the power of a competitor. Stopping him and keeping him under control is a natural and understandable desire.

In Russia, in the 90-s of the twentieth century, there was, in fact, an occupational elite, acting in the interests of the United States and the global West. It adopted the dominant ideology of liberalism in the West and began to implement pro-Western liberal reforms, which the United States insisted on. The meaning of these reforms was to integrate Russia into the global network with a parallel rejection of national sovereignty. The 90's elite were the elite of the “end of history,” since liberalism, globalization, and the “end of history,” as well as the recognition of a unipolar world and American hegemony, are strictly one and the same.

Rejecting sovereignty and continuing to dismantle the country, begun with the collapse of the USSR, this liberal elite bought itself a place in the global elite, as well as relative peace, because there is no need to fight with the submissive surrendered slave kneeling, because his will to resist and freedom is broken. The world (the end of history) was bought at the price of Russia's self-abolition as a sovereign world, and subsequently a regional power. Therefore, after the liquidation of the USSR and the entry of its parts into the zone of direct control of the West (NATO), the collapse of Russia itself was on the agenda.

Putin came from inside this elite, not on the wave of the revolution, but on the wave of tactical "cosmetic" political strategies to keep the ruling elite in power. A certain amount of “patriotism” was needed to maintain control over a decaying, slipping country into chaos. Putin was most welcome. But he clearly deceived the expectations of those who, at first, supported him, since he took his mission too seriously and actually began to systematically restore sovereignty. Here begins the return of Russia to history. No one in the elite expected this, and the most consistent supporters of liberalism and Westernism, direct agents of the influence of the “end of history” stood out in the “fifth column”, starting a direct confrontation with Putin.

Putin, on the other hand, followed his course methodically, starting with the pacification of Chechnya, and in all other directions. With each next step towards restoring and strengthening Russia's real sovereignty, the level of tensions with the West and the aggressiveness of the “fifth column” in Russia itself, openly acting in the interests of the West, grew. These tensions and aggressiveness are not accidental - this is history, where the main rule is the pair “war and peace”. Putin chose peace, but not at the price of slavery. So, let's be frank, he chose war. The war is not at any cost, but “as a last resort”. But this was enough to make the situation tense.

This took shape in the theory of a multipolar world and in the struggle for the integration of the post-Soviet space, which became the hallmarks of Putin's geopolitics. Putin made it clear: Russia is the pole of a multi-polar world, and only in this capacity, as a great sovereign state, does Russia make sense. But this is like throwing a direct challenge to unipolarity and American hegemony. So Putin deliberately escalated. This is an objective fee for returning to history.

Moreover, this is Russia's return to history as in the field of war and peace, where there is always an existential choice - to be or not to be. The slave does not choose his share, he has no right neither to war nor to peace. Free is always at risk. Hegel described this beautifully in the Phenomenology of the Spirit: The master who defies death, that is, enters a life-risk zone. A slave is one who shies away from this risk. So he buys a life, but pays for freedom. At the level of the States - is strictly the same. Freedom is fraught with war. Panic fear of war leads to slavery.

The Russian elites 90-x chose the role of guards for themselves: they declared themselves voluntary overseers over the local population on the basis of a mandate received from the center of a unipolar world. It was the colonial oligarchic elite: peace to the masses in exchange for slavery, and the elite itself the status of the drivers of the Russian cattle who are in charge of Washington. This was theoretically justified by the leaders of the oligarchy from Berezovsky to Khodorkovsky and brought to life. Putin broke this system and thus embarked on the difficult and dangerous path of freedom.

This path had three milestones: the second Chechen campaign, the war with Georgia 2008 of the year and the current Ukrainian drama (reunion with the Crimea and the battle for Novorossia). At each of these key moments, where reconciliation with reality (reality check) took place, right up to Novorossiya, Putin invariably defeated, expanding the zone of freedom, but at the same time he increased the risks and level of confrontation. Crimea was the last line beyond which the probability of war entered the “red zone” of high probability.

It is here that we are now: in the battle for freedom and sovereignty, we have reached the crucial point. Putin brought us to this line in his struggle for Russia. At each stage, the volume of our independence increased, but at the same time existential risks grew.

Here it is worth referring to what content we put into the term sovereignty, sovereign. According to the German political philosopher Karl Schmitt, the sovereign is the one who makes the decision in extraordinary circumstances. Extreme circumstances mean that action in such a situation is not strictly and unequivocally predetermined by law, existing practice, or historical precedents. The decision maker in such circumstances always acts as if anew, relying only on himself - on his will and his mind, since there are simply no ready-made solutions. This is freedom: the payment for it is death and war. Therefore, the one who strengthens the sovereignty, he increases the risk of life - himself and the whole society.

Putin is sovereign to the extent that he makes decisions in such extreme circumstances. Such circumstances were the bombings of houses in Moscow in 1999 and Basayev’s campaign against Dagestan, the shelling of Saakashvili Tskhinval in 2008, and the coup d’état in Kiev in February of 2014. Every time Russia was challenged: a direct response to it was threatened with war, evasion with slavery. At the same time, the rates increased: first, the integrity of Russia within its borders was called into question, then our interests in the South Caucasus, and finally, the shadow of genocide hung over the Russian population of Ukraine.

Every time Putin accepted the challenge and responded as a carrier of sovereignty. Thus, he expanded the historical field of actions of Russia, restored its power and freedom, but also increased the degree of confrontation with the West. At the same time, his antagonism increased with the elite 90-x, which gradually but steadily lost their positions. So there was a division of this vicarious elite (agents of the “end of history”) into two segments: the “fifth column”, which openly opposed Putin and his sovereign reforms, and the “march column”, which still recognized Putin, but tried to reinterpret his actions and indications in a liberal-unipolar spirit, and if this was not possible, then directly sabotage them. The "fifth column" was replenished by the "sixth", gradually being squeezed out from the center to the periphery.

So we came to the Crimea, where this process reached its climax. After approving reunification with the Crimea, Putin reached the final round of confrontation: if he manages to insist on his Ukrainian drama, the world ceases to be unipolar, the American hegemony collapses, and Russia finally and irrevocably returns to history. This means that we are free, sovereign, and again a great power. But it also means that the risks of world war are increasing: again, history is a risk and an existential choice.

So we approached the New Russia. In fact, all the previous things that Putin has done already suggest logic: in every new situation everything is put in place. We can not keep the previous, not entrenched in the subsequent. We only have to stop the battle for Novorossia, the Crimea, and then South Ossetia, Abkhazia, and Russia itself will rise again into question. These are the laws of geopolitics: not responding to the call loses not only him, but also what he managed to acquire earlier. And every time with the risk of war or through war.
Therefore, New Russia is today the name of Russia. Another horrific existential choice that Putin has to make if he wants not only to strengthen, but to preserve his sovereignty — both his own and Russia. But ... the structure of the Decision of a sovereign ruler is rooted in its freedom. The fact of the matter is that no one can take him for him. If Putin is sovereign, then no consideration can tilt the scales in one direction or another.

Putin is now in an extremely tense, inconceivably risky situation. In principle, two solutions already exist. The “sixth column” from his closest circle in the face of insane risks of freedom chooses betrayal and return to previous positions. The curators from across the ocean are pushing them to this: directly and indirectly (by imposing sanctions on Russian property abroad and threatening even tougher measures of the same order). Washington and Brussels are counting on an uprising of the elites against Putin, in every way overstating the risks, inclining him with any arguments to stop in the Crimea and surrender to Novorossia. This decision is a salvation for all Western agents in the Russian leadership. But it will also mean the end of Russia's sovereignty and the end of Putin himself.

Therefore, patriots, including those surrounded by Putin, make a different decision, choosing sovereignty, freedom, but also maximizing the risk of confrontation. It is clear that the “sixth column” risks: if Putin clearly sees that they are acting in the interests of the United States, the consequences will be quite severe (especially if the choice of patriots wins). But behind the back of the “sixth column” - America and the West as a whole, therefore, at worst, everyone hopes to escape at the last moment. Patriots are also at risk: if the case in Novorossia turns out badly, then the first victims of the new pullback to the West (90's revenge) will be those who pushed Putin to raise the degree of sovereignty, and thus to the risk of direct confrontation. Moreover, they have nowhere to run. But Putin himself risks most of all, since the last word depends on him: this very word will be decisive.

And here we come to the main topic of this article. Who is Putin - the figure to make a decision? Yes, there is a collective Putin as a sum of multidirectional vectors, more and more divergent - patriotic and liberal. There is an individual Putin, like a man with a biography and psychology. But he and the other are only parts of the more complex structure of the Sovereign.

To more accurately understand this structure, you can refer to the work of Ernst Kantorovich "Two King's bodies." In the Middle Ages there was a theory that the monarch, in addition to the usual individual body, has one more thing - the “mystical”. Tearing this concept away from religious ideas, we can say that the “second body” is the socio-political function of the Ruler as the highest horizon of all other components, including the individual and the situational balance of goals and interests within society, elites and influential clans. It is this “second body” that is the instance in which sovereignty is rooted. This is the point of domination, which no longer depends on anything from the area of ​​the first body. It is at the level of this second “political” body that the Decision is made.

Sovereign is the ruler who has this second body. For those who lack it or are underdeveloped, power is reduced to the result of objective factors, including individual and psychological ones. The one who possesses it has something more than that — this is a royal secret, the mystery of power. It was she who, according to medieval legal doctrines, was the basis of the king’s legitimacy. The king is legitimate by virtue of owning a second body. Who possesses it is sovereign. Who does not possess, is ultimately a usurper. The role of the ruler in history is a question that is addressed precisely to the instance of the “second body”. That it is sovereign and operates at the level of the historical process.

In this second body of Putin, Russia itself is concentrated, its fate, the quintessence of its being. In Byzantium, a similar theory interpreted the Emperor as an external bishop of the Church, that is, as a sacred figure, which embodies the point of intersection of religious and spiritual (heavenly) and imperiously-political (earthly) principles. The earthly power of a ruler is not in itself only a set of earthly concerns: it is the power of Heaven over the Earth, of the spirit over matter. The second body of the king, therefore, is the visible seal of the spirit. And again, this is perfectly consistent with Hegel, for whom the Lord is the bearer of the spirit, and ultimately, the Absolute Spirit.

Therefore, Putin’s second body is a Russian body, the spirit of Russia as a state, nation, civilization lives in it.

And now this spirit has an existential challenge. Parameters Solutions are formulated. The Sixth Column proposes the following logical chain: give up Novorossia, save the Crimea, Russia, and power; let us introduce troops (in one form or another), lose both the Crimea, and Russia, and power. Patriots insist on the opposite: let's give up New Russia, lose the Crimea, then Russia, then power; and we will introduce troops, we will keep the Crimea, we will strengthen Russia and the power. Following the adoption of a logical chain follows, respectively: either clearing the patriots and rolling back to 90, or finally moving the “sixth column” to “fifth” status and a full-fledged (although as always risky!) Russian Renaissance.

But what logic to choose, and accordingly, which way Russia will go on, now depends only and exclusively on Putin himself. More precisely, from his “second body”, where the mystery of sovereignty, the mystery of power, is the source of true and deep legitimacy. And no one can influence this Decision, in which there is to be or not to be - moreover, on the scale of not a person or even a group of people, but on a country scale, moreover, a whole civilization, the whole world order.

Only now an old and beaten question a thousand times: who are you, Mr. Putin? - acquires a truly fatal dimension. This is a question not addressed to Putin as an individual, and not to Putin as the collective name of elite groups, but to his second body, to a political and even mystical body, where the lines of freedom, destiny and history converge, which means the keys of war and of the world.
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  1. Vlad Gore
    +47
    9 June 2014 14: 29
    Yes Yes. A lot of good and right things were done by the GDP. But at the moment of something, it’s absolutely wise not childishly, and people (our people) are dying. Come on Vladimirovich, it's time to act. soldier
    1. +24
      9 June 2014 14: 53
      Quote: Vlad Gore
      Yes Yes. A lot of good and right things were done by the GDP. But at the moment of something, it’s absolutely wise not childishly, and people (our people) are dying. Come on Vladimirovich, it's time to act.

      Every day more and more of our civilian "200s", and the militias are dying, indirectly for us, for the Russians. Isn't it time to somehow help, and more specifics. And the people, VVP, will support you. Well, the truth is, the soul hurts ...
      1. PAM
        +13
        9 June 2014 15: 08
        the days of communist ideas have passed and sent to perish for freedom ... if you want freedom, be ready to shed your blood, and help whine and do nothing ... Hundreds are at war with the junta, and where the rest are millions (they run or continue to work for the oligarchs) , Lugansk, Donetsk of the whole Donbas, finally, send your own ... in the worst case, specialists and instructors (secretly) and of those. means to help.
        1. +4
          9 June 2014 15: 55
          You can immediately see the consumer society, the ideas of communism will return, for a society on an ideological platform can and can do much more than now, history confirms this
        2. typhoon7
          +11
          9 June 2014 16: 49
          And where are the thousands of demonstrations in support of the southeast, which were during the Crimean company. When they burned Odessaites, the GDP asked for a postponement of the referendum. Cities were bombed by aircraft, tulips are equated to Semenoku, Slavyansk grad, GDP shakes hands with a bucket, Matvienko announces the possible surrender of weapons and after that you want to raise people so that their families cut out and help does not come, they are not suicides. You go to chase people against aviation, helicopters, MLRS, tanks, heavy artillery systems and mortars, they are mixed with chernozem in a week, Strelkov has said this more than once. His visiting Cossacks run at the first breaks, and the locals fight well. And if the leadership decided not to help, then do not blame the DPR for this, they say they did not deserve help. Nothing has changed since the time of the Batu invasion; everyone abandoned each other, each for himself. Fell everyone.
          1. -7
            9 June 2014 18: 23
            He knows if the GDP pipe is more important. And civilian deaths are statistics.
        3. CRASHBULLET
          +3
          9 June 2014 19: 53
          That’s why he doesn’t do anything, because the people of Odessa do not need it, there are tons of residents there, and they don’t have a pitchfork?
        4. saber1357
          +3
          9 June 2014 23: 41
          That's it. Some people who comment on VO do not seem to be learning history and forget such important examples and dates:

          1914 - Russia stood up for the so-called. "brotherly" Serbia
          1917 - the Russian Empire ceased to exist
          1980 - the USSR stood up for "friendly" Afghanistan
          1992 - no comment

          Do you want to continue?

          Therefore, any hero of the novel of the same name by F.M.Dostoevsky (namely, I.D.I.O.T.), advising "to send troops", "time to act" and other lobuda, or did not learn history at school even at the level of the above dates, or - an enemy, provocateur, traitor and saboteur.

          Ukrainians in the majority both slept and are sleeping. Shooters - the hero and with a handful of awakened defends what he must defend.
          1. +2
            9 June 2014 23: 44
            Quote: saber1357
            1914 - Russia stood up for the so-called. "brotherly" Serbia
            1917 - the Russian Empire ceased to exist
            1980 - the USSR stood up for "friendly" Afghanistan
            1992 - no comment

            No need to draw analogies by the ears and engage in neuro-linguistic programming.
            You can give a bunch of examples where there were no such sad consequences.
            You need to think with your head, not with cliches.
            The problem is not what you have listed, but the political will (eggs) of the country's leadership to achieve your goals.
            1. 0
              9 June 2014 23: 56
              About eggs is good. The main thing is not to sit them on the couch ...
              1. +1
                9 June 2014 23: 59
                Quote: hrapon
                About eggs is good. The main thing is not to sit them on the couch ...

                What is a sad experience?
                Son of difficult mistakes,
                And is the genius of paradoxes a friend?
                You are your own when you served?
                But seriously?
                No need to joke, write more seriously.
          2. Victoria 1980
            +2
            10 June 2014 00: 32
            It is interesting, but when the Russians were burned in Odessa, even if the gas could be shut off as sanctions, or did it also threaten us with blood?
            What is it, it turns out, now, in order not to quarrel with Europe and not to miss out on gas revenue (which certainly does not threaten for 5 years), will we swallow all this? Russians will be cut, burned, killed, and then laugh at the corpses, but we will not answer "Because we are polite people"? as Lavrov said ??? What kind of cynicism is this?
            Never and never in my life will I vote more for Putin!
    2. Bormental
      +23
      9 June 2014 14: 55
      Much more will die if one begins to act inadequately or out of time.
    3. +5
      9 June 2014 15: 19
      This is where these 2 logical chains meet. Enter now, get a tough confrontation, and possibly a direct military clash. Wait until the end of the ATO or the UN peacekeeping mandate, lose people fighting on the fields of an undeclared war. In general, Vladimir Vladimirovich, you really decide and voice something. And then in fact the soul hurts ...
      1. Nikolav
        +11
        9 June 2014 15: 58
        If the first part of the article with the analysis of the situation is clear and understandable, then the second is more like a mystical horoscope with elements of Freudianism, such as I couldn’t, and I can’t, not my legs, but my legs.
        1. saber1357
          -1
          9 June 2014 23: 43
          Wonderful! Perfectly formulated, "elements of Freudianism", well, exactly. That is, the next pseudo-analytical whining and semi-liberal rituals are incomprehensible to the gods - that's what this article is, and not at all an analyst.
    4. +8
      9 June 2014 15: 42
      It seems that it is Putin who chooses the time to act, and not those who push him to hasty actions. Sorry for the pathos, but the action should be lightning fast, like a throw of a cobra. In this embodiment, there will simply be no response. I was so taught in hand-to-hand combat: Beat so that there is no answer.
      1. +5
        9 June 2014 16: 05
        Quote: Sanglier
        but the action must be lightning fast

        Well, not only lightning fast, if Russia immediately after Crimea would "come" to Novorossia, then Western agit prom would spin the flywheel of its propaganda with might and main that Russia is the aggressor, Putin = imperial manners, and now all their attempts to show Russia in a black light are not crowned with success. and it is getting harder and harder to hide the truth. and therefore the Kalommoy and parashnenki strive to finish the ATO as soon as possible, time is working against them.
        IMHA
        I think that now we can only guess what will be the response of Russia to the events in Ukraine, now a kind of "legitimate" muzzle in the form of a parashenko has appeared and they will try to start negotiations ... Children will not be taken out, the junta will not restore destroyed houses, only Russia can do this.
    5. +6
      9 June 2014 16: 40
      Just like in Judo, you need endurance here, he doesn’t want to win the battle, he wants to win the war, and honestly, I personally don’t want to send our soldiers there, help with weapons and information + press through diplomacy, this solution is optimal at the moment, despite the fact that time does not play on the side of the junta.
    6. +2
      9 June 2014 16: 48
      I am now firmly convinced that everything that happens in the former Ukraine should be viewed through the "gas pipe" and in no other way.
      Who cares, here’s the link there EVERYTHING you yourself will understand what’s why, how and why:
      reference: http://politobzor.net/show-25506-chto-oznachaet-priostanovka-bolgariey-yuzhnogo-
      potoka.html

      Everything is clear, clear and understandable here. This article explains a lot and it becomes clear why there is no no-fly zone (who would not say anything to justify Russia), active assistance to Russia (albeit secret in any form) of official policy regarding SE and everything h something connected with it.
      The fact that the Russian government and most of the oligarchy will leave to the mercy of fate of SE is only a matter of time.
      If I find myself wrong (but I really want to make a mistake) then I will be very happy and get drunk to unconsciousness.
      1. +2
        9 June 2014 17: 07
        Quote: Belarus
        If I find myself wrong (but I really want to make a mistake) then I will be very happy and get drunk unconscious

        And if you make a mistake you won’t drink? :-)
        1. +1
          9 June 2014 18: 21
          In principle, I don’t drink at all, but if I’m mistaken, I’ll drink it for the sake of it and even dance on the table.
          1. +3
            9 June 2014 20: 24
            You are already mistaken. Russia needs the whole Southeast, and so, if Russia now gets into this trap arranged by the jackal, it will remain only with a small stub from the SE with a bunch of problems and not only image-related, but with complete hemorrhoids at its side. And if at least 5% of the male population of Donbass stood up with weapons in their hands, then Russia's reaction would be different. And so by December, the South-East and Transnistria will already become a full-fledged NEW RUSSIA. Well, the remaining piece of the Ruin will not be needed either by anyone or Russia or the West. These are the forecasts. IHMO.
            1. 0
              9 June 2014 21: 19
              so the trick is that there’s no weapon yet ... even Igor Ivanovich admitted it ... it's a shame! belay
      2. wax
        +1
        9 June 2014 22: 24
        Get drunk, no doubt. Make a reserve, otherwise it may not be at hand at the right time.
    7. +2
      9 June 2014 17: 01
      Come on Vladimirovich, it's time to act.
      Yes, he acts. Weighted. And, in my opinion, not at the direction of the 6th column. Beautiful article, plus
      1. +1
        9 June 2014 20: 43
        The article is interesting, it would still suffocate all these 5 and 6 columns and on and on, not paying attention to anyone !!!!
        1. 0
          13 June 2014 08: 57
          who "-" did you put not from 5x ???)))
    8. +2
      9 June 2014 17: 18
      The most regrettable thing in this situation is that the people are hostage to peppers who want to lead the country. Thank God that Putin! God forbid someone came to power like Yanukovych, but such are the other candidates (for Zyuganov, a separate conversation) Where are the guarantees of the continuity of policies, both internal and external ????? This is scary! He will sell the country and the people for 33 pieces of silver, and we have enough of those willing, - take the "independent" - all presidents as a selection.
    9. saber1357
      +1
      9 June 2014 23: 35
      Take action. Legs in hands, from a computer - and to Donetsk. For the millions of sleeping residents of Urquroinus to fight ... Then, when you arrive, give advice to the GDP, before that - do not ....
  2. +4
    9 June 2014 14: 30
    the second body was raised in the "Chekist school" ... or there will be more ...
    1. N.Zero
      +2
      9 June 2014 14: 45
      they say Van Gogh’s recently cut off ear for a museum was raised ...
      Cho can’t grow 2-3 spare bodies for Putin ?! wassat
  3. +26
    9 June 2014 14: 30
    It sounds somehow strange - "the return of Russia from oblivion coincided with the era of Putin." Maybe it was after all Putin brought Russia back to the world leader?
    1. +13
      9 June 2014 14: 39
      Of course Putin, the whole world envies you, you have such a president, you are lucky
    2. VAF
      VAF
      -8
      9 June 2014 14: 41
      Quote: Reserve officer
      . Maybe it was Putin who brought Russia back to world leaders?


      This is in the sense of the first place in the extraction and sale of "national property"? wassat
      1. -3
        9 June 2014 15: 32
        Let's be objective. The first places have already been taken. Gorbachev and Yeltsin. And Putin tried to return the national property by buying out the assets of the "privatized" companies by the state.
      2. +17
        9 June 2014 15: 35
        Here is a story for all of you about Russia's withdrawal into world leaders.
        Now I work in the city No.
        Excuse me for being secretive, well, I don’t want to be attracted to me for libel and all that stuff.
        Alcohol is sold here until 22:00.
        On Saturday I decided that I was bored and went by taxi to look for a place where to buy beer after class time.
        Well, the taxi driver took me where I needed to, I bought everything there calmly, I’m going back, I ask the taxi driver: How so? I am a stranger and I go into the store, calmly buy (without a check) what is needed and this store has no problems?
        And the driver answers me: The owner of the store is the son of the city prosecutor.
        You think about it! Prosecutor !!!!!
        Everyone knows everything, including those who are supposed to, I am sure that everyone knows and those who are above.
        The conclusion is this.
        Our system ROTTED through, and to us, as I wrote earlier, they simply pour patriotic sweetness in our ears! hi
        1. +9
          9 June 2014 16: 47
          Quote: ATATA
          And the driver answers me: The owner of the store is the son of the city prosecutor.
          You think about it! Prosecutor !!!!!

          I don’t want to deprive the prosecutor’s son of importance, but in my shop across the street they sell everything without any “sons”.
          I asked why - the answer is simple - but how else will we make a plan?
          1. +2
            9 June 2014 16: 56
            Quote: lelikas
            I asked why - the answer is simple - but how else will we make a plan?
            I doubt very much the sincerity of your interlocutor, now it is not socialism and there is no need to make a plan. Now interested in profit.
            And it is unlikely that they will not share power with anyone for this profit.
            And believe me, to sell alcohol at night today, the familiar PPSnik would clearly not be enough.
            1. +1
              9 June 2014 17: 09
              Quote: ATATA
              I doubt very much the sincerity of your interlocutor, now it is not socialism and there is no need to make a plan

              Do not hesitate, the owner of the enterprise puts a daily plan that goes to the seller from above, and in hairdressing salons, on the bus route and other small retail outlets, even when I was working at the bank the same garbage was ...
            2. +1
              9 June 2014 19: 22
              Quote: ATATA
              I doubt very much the sincerity of your interlocutor, now it is not socialism and there is no need to make a plan. Now interested in profit.
              And it is unlikely that they will not share power with anyone for this profit.
              And believe me, to sell alcohol at night today, the familiar PPSnik would clearly not be enough.

              I'll start with the plan and socialism - I have 4 types of plan at work, the failure of each of which entails the loss of 20% of the salary. No one canceled the plan for revenue per shift for sellers.
              A small basement shop - I think the "authorities" don't know about it.
            3. 0
              9 June 2014 19: 26
              Quote: ATATA
              And believe me, to sell alcohol at night today, the familiar PPSnik would clearly not be enough.

              ZY - but about the PPP - just now I had the good fortune to be fined "for using" - everything went at the highest level - and they took them to the department and explained the rights and drew up a protocol. On the spot they categorically refused to understand. I am sitting now, waiting for the fine.
              1. 0
                9 June 2014 20: 52
                Quote: lelikas
                I'm sitting now, waiting for a fine.

                And what do you think about the store?
                Did they pay a fine?
            4. yulka2980
              0
              10 June 2014 04: 17
              And in my city at least at 12 a.m. take it, but only in large stores! They haven’t been selling anything in kiosks for a long time! One is glad that they don’t sell without a passport, even they ask adults!
        2. +2
          9 June 2014 16: 48
          You already decide whether Putin created this system, or has it always been? Is this your new invention when local gods are rowing for themselves or not? or maybe he should have a certain eye, or should he know this from someone ???
          1. +3
            9 June 2014 16: 53
            Quote: Alekst
            or should he know this from someone ???

            He is the guarantor of the constitution and laws and that’s it.
            And he has a huge staff and a lot of ministries and departments, which exist for that, that would know everything and using this knowledge to govern the country.
            1. -1
              10 June 2014 08: 13
              He is, of course, the guarantor, only the one who is included in that staff, as the above-mentioned prosecutor, who must monitor the implementation of laws, does exactly the opposite! not the system was rotten, but it was rotten, more likely in the heads of people, and by the way, you might not have been looking for a place for illegal sales of alcohol, but having fulfilled your civic duty to wait until the morning))
        3. +1
          9 June 2014 16: 53
          I’m walking along the street. I saw a cigarette butt on the lawn. I realized that Russia was dying. I went to drink vodka wassat
        4. 0
          9 June 2014 16: 53
          I’m walking along the street. I saw a cigarette butt on the lawn. I realized that Russia was dying. I went to drink vodka wassat
        5. 0
          9 June 2014 19: 56
          Well SO FISH rots from the HEAD!
          I can’t argue that CREATIVES AND SONS are in every CITY!
          and these SHOULDERS have no conscience!
          WELL THEN either remove SUCH from the power OR SOMETHING TO DO!
          CLEAN ON THE 5th column!
        6. yulka2980
          0
          10 June 2014 04: 15
          So you don’t write there! Write on the website of the Regional Prosecutor’s Office, but rather immediately on the Kremlin’s website amBut in general, you wanted to buy beer and bought, so what's the difference who sold you?
      3. 0
        9 June 2014 23: 13
        Quote: vaf
        vaf (1)

        I am always happy to read your comments on technical issues! Special thanks to aviation! But why do not you accept the course of our leadership? I also lived and served under socialism. But you won’t turn back the clock!
      4. yulka2980
        0
        10 June 2014 04: 12
        Under Yeltsin, the public wealth was even richer, but there was nothing to eat all over Russia! Think about how we lived under EBN? My family has a new idea!
  4. +9
    9 June 2014 14: 31
    Sashka naughty naughty, but licks well. Talantishte in this matter.
    1. +9
      9 June 2014 14: 38
      Quote: baltika-18
      Sashka naughty naughty, but licks well. Talantishte in this matter.

      Not in the eyebrow, but right in the hole ... laughing
      1. +3
        9 June 2014 14: 48
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        , and right in the hole ..

        The development of the topic has begun! lol Wife on a business trip? wassat Now the major will be connected, he also has a hangover master. laughing
        P.S. So what kind of hole are we talking about? And the most important thing - WHOSE OF? feel
        1. +5
          9 June 2014 14: 52
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Wife on a business trip

          People, there is a free hut pogrebaite laughing
        2. +5
          9 June 2014 14: 57
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          P.S. So what kind of hole are we talking about?

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          People, there is a free hut pogrebaite

          Happenes.... fellow
          Saying confused .... feel
          1. +3
            9 June 2014 15: 03
            Hi Ilyich! hi
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Saying confused ....

            If only for holes .... wassat
            1. +5
              9 June 2014 15: 08
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              If only not holes.

              Hi, Igor! hi
              To the touch ... Aging - memory fails, eyes go blind ... laughing
              1. +2
                9 June 2014 15: 13
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                eyes go blind ..

                I have long been so, vision minus 5.5 laughing(although some are smelling! wassat )
                1. +4
                  9 June 2014 15: 30
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  (although some smell

                  I have chronic sinusitis ... but my fingers are playful wassat
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                  2. +4
                    9 June 2014 15: 35
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    To the touch ... Aging - memory fails, eyes go blind ...

                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    I have chronic sinusitis ... but my fingers are playful

                    So you’ll slip a corpse at the last stage of decomposition, you won’t see, you don’t learn, but you’ll get it all wassat
                    1. +4
                      9 June 2014 15: 47
                      Quote: atalef
                      you don’t see, you don’t learn - but you’ll get it all

                      Its not smell laughing
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                      2. +1
                        9 June 2014 15: 50
                        Quote: atalef



                        Quote: stalkerwalkerFeel to the touch ... I'm getting old - my memory fails, my eyes go blind ... Quote: stalkerwalker I have chronic sinusitis ... but my fingers are playful.

                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Its not smell

                        Look, this is a dangerous business.
                        A resident of Kazakhstan did not want to part with his wife after she died, and for a long time kept her corpse in the house. This story was publicized thanks to police officers who stumbled upon a woman’s mummified body in one of the houses of Kokshetau (admissions center of the Akmola region of Kazakhstan), Interfax reports.
                      3. +4
                        9 June 2014 15: 53
                        Quote: atalef
                        Look, this is a dangerous business.

                        So I live in Russia ... wassat
              2. +3
                9 June 2014 15: 27
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                To the touch ... Aging - memory fails, eyes go blind

                Start to feel from the face, and then suddenly there is a beard laughing
                1. +5
                  9 June 2014 15: 34
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Start to feel from the face, and then suddenly there is a beard

                  Yes? recourse
                  And the truth is that I usually start from another place ... fellow
                  1. +1
                    9 June 2014 19: 31
                    +1000000000000000000000
            2. +5
              9 June 2014 15: 26
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              If only not holes.

              And then the wife will return, and in your bathroom wassat
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              2. +4
                9 June 2014 15: 27
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                And then the wife will return, and in your bathroom

                belay
                Sanya is your bath after repair good wassat
                1. +3
                  9 June 2014 15: 39
                  Quote: atalef
                  Sanya is your bath after repair

                  The bath may be mine, but "baba" is yours definitely lol
                  1. +2
                    9 June 2014 15: 44
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    The bath may be mine, but "baba" is yours definitely

                    It’s strange what my woman does in your bath?
                    1. +4
                      9 June 2014 15: 51
                      Quote: atalef
                      It’s strange what my woman does in your bath?

                      Size matters... laughing
                      And not only baths fellow
                    2. +2
                      9 June 2014 15: 51
                      Quote: atalef
                      It’s strange what my woman does in your bath?

                      Himself dragged her there, but you ask me. First you call, you need a hut for the night, you need a hut, and then belay Well, I understand, you have drunk a little, with whom it does not happen. laughing
                      1. +1
                        9 June 2014 15: 54
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Himself dragged her there

                        From Israel - dragging to Vladik laughing

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Well, I understand, you have drunk a little, with whom it does not happen.

                        It happens laughing
                      2. +1
                        9 June 2014 15: 54
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Himself dragged her there

                        From Israel - dragging to Vladik laughing

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Well, I understand, you have drunk a little, with whom it does not happen.

                        It happens laughing
                      3. +1
                        9 June 2014 16: 25
                        Quote: atalef
                        From Israel - dragging to Vladik

                        There is nothing to go on dry cargo ships on cruises laughing
                      4. +2
                        9 June 2014 18: 15
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        . First you call, you need a hut for the night, you need a hut, and then Well, I understand, you have drunk a little, with whom it does not happen

                        I won't drink so much laughing
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              3. 0
                9 June 2014 18: 18
                Geyropa laundering!?
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          2. +2
            9 June 2014 15: 14
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Sayings confused

            Give the address, the crowd is on the way ..
            1. +4
              9 June 2014 15: 29
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Give the address, the crowd is on the way ..

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And then the wife will return, and in your bathroom

              Mdya-ah-ah SUCH a wife will not forgive - will have to change the bath ... drinks
              1. +1
                9 June 2014 15: 40
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Mdya-ah-ah SUCH a wife will not forgive - you have to change the bath

                Yes, not Ilyich, everything is normal. We figured it out already, this is Atalef laughing
                Listen, give me a link where Lukashenko banned beer there and said that our brothers were being killed. request
                1. +3
                  9 June 2014 15: 46
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Listen, give me a link where Lukashenko banned beer there and said that our brothers were being killed.

                  I can't - a work colleague at home in Belarus called - his wife told him. Of course it looks like OBS, but the "source" is verified.
                  We check the news on the Polish media - radio and TV. fellow
                  1. +1
                    9 June 2014 16: 07
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    We check the news on the Polish media - radio and TV

                    keep up to date, you never mind .... Suddenly a warrior, and I without a helmet
                    1. +3
                      9 June 2014 16: 09
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Suddenly a warrior, and I without a helmet

                      soldier
                  2. +3
                    9 June 2014 21: 42
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    I can't - a work colleague at home in Belarus called - his wife told him. Of course it looks like OBS, but the "source" is verified.

                    Clarified - news can be found on Belarus-Interfax ....
                    And further.
                    The import duty to Belarus for Roshen products was sharply increased even before the coronation trip.
        3. +13
          9 June 2014 15: 01
          While the wife is on a business trip
          I decided to look at a neighbor
          But getting a forehead slotted spoon
          Hastened back home
          But nature cannot be overpowered
          In the apartment I rush like a beast
          Until the bottle is overpowered
          Pillow in the holes, believe me ... wassat

          Hi all! hi
      2. 0
        9 June 2014 19: 27
        Yes Yes Yes )))))
    2. 0
      9 June 2014 19: 43
      Not. Mnogabukaf, IMHO. Minus recourse
  5. +6
    9 June 2014 14: 32
    More precisely, from his “second body,” where the secret of sovereignty, the mystery of power, the source of true and deep legitimacy are concentrated
    Yeah and the question below who are you mr Putin winked Putin also lit up in World War II laughing
    1. lars
      +9
      9 June 2014 14: 37
      Judging by the form and insignia - this is immediately after the Civil.
    2. +6
      9 June 2014 14: 39
      Now everything is clear - Putin is a time traveler, from the future. Knowing everything in advance, he managed to become president and now leads Russia to the lead. :)
      1. +2
        9 June 2014 16: 11
        Quote: wizarden
        Now everything is clear - Putin is a time traveler,

        Yeah, in Poland, too, lit up. Behind in a helmet modestly stands, young stilllaughing
  6. +7
    9 June 2014 14: 32
    The slave does not choose his share; he has no right to either war or peace. The free one is always at risk.- everything in this phrase, - the fate of Russia and the DNI, and the LC. hi
  7. -4
    9 June 2014 14: 33
    Everything that is described in the article may be true. But! The stake on Putin as a person in creating a reserve for the future is utopian, since sooner or later he will leave (we are all mortal) And the system he created is based on capitalist ideas, and does not have the support of the masses, like a person of GDP. And the environment he has a "smell". In Belarus, this is better, at least the system is more honest there.
  8. Vlad Gore
    +2
    9 June 2014 14: 36
    So we approached the Crimea, where this process culminated.
    Yeah, a lot of crap surfaced after this event. laughing
  9. +15
    9 June 2014 14: 36
    As a witness to the Soviet-Russian troubles, I must say that Putin simply saved Russia and continues to save, becoming a collos not of clay feet, but a power in the full sense of the word, the result. - America is in fright and shock ....
    1. -1
      9 June 2014 14: 48
      Quote: mig31
      I am a witness to the Soviet-Russian wrangle
      I can also say that Putin from Russia made a very pragmatic country. Approximately this is Yes, and his environment is very pragmatic, but he himself is probably pragmatic.
      1. +2
        9 June 2014 14: 54
        Quote: baltika-18
        I can also say that Putin from Russia made a very pragmatic country

        Kolya, did you cheat this picture of me? I put it 15 minutes ago what or fuse wink
        1. +1
          10 June 2014 16: 44
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Kolya, did you cheat this picture of me? I put it 15 minutes ago or sunk
          Sinful, stole. feel Ass Nitsche. feel
      2. +2
        9 June 2014 15: 02
        Here, as in the photo, Russia went to Putin from Humpbacked and eBN with his team, which in 500 days ADDED the country.
      3. komrad.klim
        0
        9 June 2014 15: 57
        The environment is YOU!
    2. +6
      9 June 2014 15: 00
      Quote: mig31
      America is in shock and shock ....

      Of course, in shock, because the civil war is boiling in Mexico, and not in Ukraine. laughing (joke)

      stop What a shock, they correctly invested money in creating a hotbed of tension near the borders of their potential adversary. And for a long time we have to rake it, while VERY trying not to smear ourselves!
    3. +5
      9 June 2014 15: 20
      Quote: mig31
      As a witness to the Soviet-Russian troubles, I must say that Putin simply saved Russia and continues to save, becoming a collos not of clay feet, but a power in the full sense of the word, the result.

      I agree, but with the East of Ukraine, while losing and hope, less ...
      America is in shock and shock ....

      Come on without hatred ... America so far, alas, is capable of much more harm to us than we are to it ...
  10. +3
    9 June 2014 14: 37
    All that remains is to wish Putin strength, resilience, wisdom, so that he would be able to carry out everything he had conceived, in the GOOD OF RUSSIA.
    1. +2
      9 June 2014 14: 45
      Yes, the truth is on our side.
  11. +1
    9 June 2014 14: 38
    If the Russian spirit in Putin wins, then through all obstacles, hardships, sacrifices, we will come to our victory, but if other principles win in Putin, then the thought of our victory will have to be postponed indefinitely, and how the politician Putin in Russia will end. Let us all hope that the Russian spirit will prevail, and we will all support Putin in the fight against the evil West.
  12. Alexandr 2
    +9
    9 June 2014 14: 39
    Sometimes it seems that only one Putin is a normal, honest politician.
    1. 0
      9 June 2014 15: 38
      Quote: Alexandr 2
      Sometimes it seems that only one Putin is a normal, honest politician.
      And he doesn’t forgive the enemies and keeps his word. By the way, here the info passed
      It is no coincidence that Saudi intelligence boss Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdulaziz received a dose of poison from which there is no antidote. laughing http://mixednews.ru/archives/59713

      I immediately remembered the words allegedly said by Putin - "whoever threatens us, I will chop off his hands to the very eggs" something like that ... I don't remember literally. What tell gentlemen, who is special in poisons?))
  13. +2
    9 June 2014 14: 40
    The true truth, and we should be proud of this president!
  14. zzz
    zzz
    0
    9 June 2014 14: 41
    Interesting article. "Patriots" vs. "Sixth Column". Who is Putin with?
  15. Dbnfkmtdbx
    +1
    9 June 2014 14: 45
    I’ve seen many presidents since Brezhnev, but only now I’m not ashamed for my Motherland Russia to keep the gentlemen the President and we all of Russia are with you and don’t pay attention to homosexuals, you just designate them and we will do the rest (re-educate angry )
  16. +5
    9 June 2014 14: 45
    I do not know. what about two bodies, auras of different colors, but what "New Russia is today the name of Russia - right. With Novorossia, everything that the people expect from their president is connected. While such a rating, such support, we must act! Just go ahead, Vladimir Vladimirovich! And then the people will not understand.
    1. +7
      9 June 2014 14: 56
      Quote: chinararem
      chinararem

      Cool photo, soon on the Censor it will appear in the form of news, under the heading ...
      Putin illegally crossed the Ukrainian border-PHOTO wassat
  17. +5
    9 June 2014 14: 47
    Dousing is not difficult - a great mind is not required. What would you do in his place?
    1. +5
      9 June 2014 15: 00
      Quote: ir.semenov2011
      Dousing is not difficult - a great mind is not required. What would you do in his place?

      Oooh ...
      Here the skoka literati "registered", which just now in his honor "threw caps" ...
      And the main thing is that all of them ALREADY know that the GDP "did not do" and "will not do" further.
  18. +4
    9 June 2014 14: 47
    introducing sanctions against Russian property abroad
    I am a citizen of Russia and I do not have property abroad. Only debts (loans) here. Therefore, these sanctions ...
  19. Cheldon
    -6
    9 June 2014 14: 48
    pays tribute to the Caucasus m pouts cheeks. I wonder how it is more profitable and faster to sell the natural wealth of Russia. and our layman comes from a patriotic zststaz.
    1. 0
      9 June 2014 14: 56
      Quote: Cheldon
      Cheldon Today, 14:48
      pays tribute to the Caucasus m pouts cheeks. I wonder how it is more profitable and faster to sell the natural wealth of Russia. and our layman comes from a patriotic zststaz.

      You are not a chaldon, but a doldon.
  20. o11g
    +2
    9 June 2014 14: 49
    In foreign policy, he is a genius, but in the domestic it is weak to defeat corruption, theft of power and corruption of the police would not be the price, but alas, it seems to me that Russia will fall even more and without getting on its knees it’s a pity that the barrel started to roll westward. Russia’s body is sick
    1. 0
      9 June 2014 14: 56
      You read carefully, I hope? "Sixth Column". He alone cannot defeat her. Because there is no one to replace it - even worse thieves may come.
    2. +2
      9 June 2014 15: 21
      Quote: o11g
      He is a genius in foreign policy, but weak in domestic

      For domestic politics, the prime minister must be matched by our President, but alas ...
      Quote: o11g
      Russian organism is sick

      Almost everything can be cured. Pills.
      That's just a cancerous tumor will have to be excised.
    3. -1
      9 June 2014 19: 08
      Quote: o11g
      In foreign policy, he is a genius, but in domestic it is weak to defeat corruption, theft of power and corruption

      - he has a difficult choice: it would be necessary to plant a third, hang a third, and the remaining third will not cope with the solution of the demographic problem. Not a little joke. After all, honest ones only appear on the Internet, they don’t join the people's fronts, and they don’t let corrupt officials. How to be ?!
  21. +3
    9 June 2014 14: 50
    Despite my unconditional support for New Russia, I believe that Putin does the right thing when he distances himself from the events in the Donbass, politically, this is true. The most important thing is that Putin does not block the corridors on the border, so that weapons and volunteers, humanitarian aid go freely to the Donbass. And even better, Putin would facilitate the flow of elementary air defense systems to the Donbass, from Putin this would be enough for today.
    It’s trickier to act but we must act that’s the biggest claim to Putin.
  22. Almer
    +1
    9 June 2014 14: 53
    The choice is certainly not easy, a lot of things are at stake, and the consequences of this choice can not even be calculated. Let's hope for the best.
  23. RUSBAT
    +6
    9 June 2014 14: 55
    Putin has done a lot of good for our country, and I think I will do a lot more, but .. Serdyukov is free, and Leonid Vasilyevich Khabarov is still in custody.
  24. 0
    9 June 2014 14: 56
    Mlyn, why write so many words? AND? it’s really interesting what the article is about, but I don’t want to read so much monotonous text. It’s necessary to introduce a rule. At the beginning of a large article, a brief summary is given. And then to open it.
    1. arch_kate3
      0
      9 June 2014 16: 06
      Maybe also comics on the topic, and then read laziness?
    2. wax
      0
      9 June 2014 22: 32
      Dugin writes like Dugin. He has no talent sisters.
  25. +3
    9 June 2014 14: 57
    It's time to act. Will our troops on Urkain or not - anyway. Zapadentsev and somehow do not like it. But it’s better to choose a war, and not a shame and war from above.
  26. +1
    9 June 2014 15: 00
    Yegor Kholmogorov: Our sworn friends understand perfectly well that by forcing the Kremlin to jerk and humiliate itself, blaming it with its "non-help" to the South-East for the death and grief of people, they lower its political credit, not only to the pre-Crimean level - somewhere in the area of ​​December 2011 and below ... This calculation of the self-destruction of the Russian Federation as a result of foreign policy defeat undoubtedly motivates our non-friends much more than the fate of Ukraine itself. It is no coincidence that they began to reap at the very moment when the first slack was indicated.
    At the same time, it is necessary to understand that the drain and betrayal will be counted by us (and there are quite a lot of us and eliminating, for example, me) nothing to the Kremlin precisely as a major foreign policy defeat caused by anti-national, anti-Russian politics. The fact that the Russian people, the lives of Russian people, their safety and freedom are valued by the Kremlin infinitely lower than its blue chips and, as Strelkov has already pointed out earlier, the lives of the venerable Ossetians. The life of a Russian is equal for the Kremlin 1 / 1000 to the life of Ossetians. We’ll write it down without any hostility towards the Ossetians (we’ll envy what we’ll do).

    Strelkov: Freaks who are beginning to talk about the "political and economic inexpediency for the Russians to defend the south-east" I would ... no, I would not shoot! We already have a standard punishment here - "a penalty sapper company" ... In Semyonovka, under fire, she is digging trenches. I would send them there ... For a week. To remember that they are first of all Russians, and only then - "citizens of Russia".
  27. +3
    9 June 2014 15: 01
    Tsytata: "By approving reunification with Crimea, Putin entered the final round of confrontation: if he manages to insist on his own in the Ukrainian drama, the world ceases to be unipolar, American hegemony collapses, and Russia will finally and irrevocably return to history."

    GDP is not easy. We believe our president. There is a real battle going on in the international arena. Putin is not resting at all recently. The most difficult thing is ahead. Glory to Russia!
  28. +4
    9 June 2014 15: 03
    "So we came to the Crimea, where this process reached its culmination."

    European Court refused to return Crimea to Ukraine
    Kiev will have to resolve its territorial disputes with Moscow alone.

    The Kiev authorities periodically threateningly remind that they filed a lawsuit in the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) asking him to intervene in his territorial dispute with Moscow. Simply put, help return Crimea. As recently as 3 of June, Arseniy Yatsenyuk announced this within the walls of the Verkhovna Rada. “We are aware that such lawsuits do not take place in a month. But such lawsuits will have results, ”the acting assuredly promised. Prime Minister.
    He kept silent that the result is already there - the European Court made an interim decision. Not in favor of Ukraine. I asked Karin Besche-Golovko, a French lawyer, to comment on the situation. Here's what she said.
    In fact, Ukraine filed a lawsuit on 13 in March, three days before the referendum in Crimea, after which the peninsula became part of Russia. The statement is based on Article 33 of the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms - “Interstate Affairs”. The ECHR does not like this article; it is considered not legal, but political. For 60 with more than one year of the European Court's existence, during which hundreds of thousands of cases have been examined, there have been only 16 such statements.
    In its statement, Kiev requested that the so-called temporary measures be applied to Moscow (Article 39 of the Rules of the ECHR), that is, before considering the case, immediately take the Ukrainian side in its vision of the situation in Crimea. It is worth noting that states quite often try to use the authoritative Strasbourg tribune not to resolve disputes, but in order to loudly, throughout the world, voice their position. We must pay tribute to the European Court of Justice - he did not allow himself to be involved in politics and remained over the battle. In part, however, the request of Ukraine was granted - temporary measures were taken. But they are addressed not only to the defendant, but also to the plaintiff himself.
    The decision said: “Both contracting parties should refrain from taking any measures, especially military operations, which could entail violations of the rights of civilians, including a threat to their life and health, and fulfill obligations under the Convention, especially with regard to articles 2 (right to life) and 3 (prohibition of inhuman or degrading treatment). ”
    Crimea is not mentioned at all.
    http://pavel-shipilin.livejournal.com/285080.html
    1. wax
      0
      9 June 2014 22: 38
      Those. it follows from the decision that the plaintiff in Crimea does not comply with it in the SE of Ukraine, while in the Crimea both the plaintiff and the defendant adhered to this decision.
  29. +2
    9 June 2014 15: 06
    GOD help him !!! make the right decision. And creatures from the fifth and sixth columns. Keep the FSB under control, you can expect everything from these ghouls.
  30. Stasi
    +2
    9 June 2014 15: 08
    Putin’s choice is really hard. Or to win back everything and thereby commit political suicide, or despite external pressure from the West and other countries, as well as internal opposition and sabotage from the liberals and the fifth column, to lead the country to the place it deserves. The most dangerous is the internal enemy. It was thanks to such agents of influence that the West was able, influencing the most diverse layers of the elite and those in power, to destroy the USSR. A huge role was also played by the fact that Soviet ideology ceased to meet the requirements of the time, and our new elite and nomenclature either did not want or could not, because of their degradation and worship of the West. The trouble with today's Russia is that it does not have its own ideology, which would unite the country and all segments of the population, would be the core on which the whole country rested. But even if the best minds of Russia were able to formulate such an ideology, the article of the Constitution that prohibits any ideology prevents it from being introduced. In order for Russia to have its own ideology, Putin will have to replace the Constitution, especially since it was written under the dictation of American consultants, of whom there were many in the 90s. And one moment. For any politician or statesman, it does not matter how he goes down in history, what descendants will say about him, what they will write in history textbooks. I don’t know what they will write about Putin in history textbooks, but I’m sure that he doesn’t care what they write about him and in what capacity he will go down in the history of Russia.
  31. +3
    9 June 2014 15: 10
    Let's hope that our President, as befits the real Tsar, knows much more than all political scientists and experts. But the fact that he does not lose is iron. You can’t lose the Pindogeirope punks, which means that a lot of interesting things await us.
  32. +2
    9 June 2014 15: 12
    The Sixth Column, from its inner circle in the face of the insane risks of freedom, chooses betrayal and a return to previous positions

    Apparently, the GDP still does not fully control the situation with homegrown capitalists, otherwise it would have started "landing" long ago ... and then its rating would have gone off scale and over 100%. Although .... that = something encouraging began to peck with "Rusnano" under the leadership of an unsinkable redhead ....
  33. +6
    9 June 2014 15: 13

    Vlad Gor
    Yes Yes. A lot of good and right things were done by the GDP. But at the moment of something, it’s absolutely wise not childishly, and people (our people) are dying. Come on Vladimirovich, it's time to act.

    God forbid! Now to send troops, And We will immediately lose our Motherland - KIEV! "Peacekeeping" troops from NATO will immediately be deployed from the Europodon side! And we, "we will definitely become invaders" - right there the whole west is "shit with joy"!
    You will forgive me a man, an old mechanic and not a "strategist"!
  34. +1
    9 June 2014 15: 15
    Ingvar 72 (1)
    ... they correctly invested in creating a hotbed of tension near the borders of their potential adversary

    I disagree with you in the plan "potential adversary". The USA started this all not out of" fear ", but out of considerations of enrichment, if Russia was destroyed.
    For the USA, always - WAR IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY - MOTHER IS RELATED.
  35. +2
    9 June 2014 15: 17
    And I think that VVP has not revealed all the cards yet! I hope he will still make his main move, the course of which everyone is waiting with bated breath, and from which all the spiteful critics, including our "fifth column", will choke in impotent rage.
  36. 0
    9 June 2014 15: 22
    "Putriots" are waiting for more decisive action! If we defend Novorossia, I will also become a putriot (I made up) ...
  37. +1
    9 June 2014 15: 24
    Today there is no alternative to GDP .... and the near future (half a year, a year) is not expected
    1. 0
      9 June 2014 15: 32
      ... I think an alternative to GDP will not appear in the next FIVE years, at least.
  38. -5
    9 June 2014 15: 31
    Putinomania
  39. Victoria 1980
    +1
    9 June 2014 15: 32
    The article is a fat plus. It is high time for Putin to decide who he is and with whom he is. Those who say that he is an absolute patriot are cunning and are his ordinary propagandists.
    This is clearly confirmed by Peskov's words after Putin's direct line. (After the traitor Prokhorova with a suffering look broadcast that culture in her face, you see, is being pressed): "VVP said that he is the president of those who agree and dissent." Then, I personally, already suspected something was wrong. Well, then, there was a demonstrative invitation from Kudrin to a meeting on the budget rule, where a decision was made in favor of the liberals.
    Maybe this is also part of a cunning plan ?. Let's hope.
  40. +1
    9 June 2014 15: 34
    It’s good when the body is not one. Especially today in Slavyansk!
  41. +1
    9 June 2014 15: 35
    According to the German political philosopher Karl Schmitt, the sovereign is the one who makes decisions in extreme circumstances

    Imagine yourself in his place! And the war will not "sunk" and raise Russia! Let's hope for the best way out of this situation! Let's live in HOPE!
  42. +2
    9 June 2014 15: 49
    Quote: Bormental
    Much more will die if one begins to act inadequately or out of time.

    Right! They are just waiting for how to draw Russia into the war. And expose the aggressor to the whole world!
    They will have arguments against which you can’t stop ... Do not need this Russia, as in my IMHO.
  43. Leprechaun
    +1
    9 June 2014 15: 50
    Quote: Victoria 1980
    It is high time for Putin to decide who he is and with whom he is.

    Putin has long decided who he is and with whom he, when in 2003-2004 he returned all revenues from Oil and Gas to Russia ... until these years, all profits went to the west, money from this trade did not go to the treasury ...
    1. Victoria 1980
      +1
      9 June 2014 23: 01
      This is not enough!
  44. komrad.klim
    +5
    9 June 2014 15: 55
    Quote: ATATA
    Here is a story for all of you about Russia's withdrawal into world leaders.
    Now I work in the city No.
    Excuse me for being secretive, well, I don’t want to be attracted to me for libel and all that stuff.
    Alcohol is sold here until 22:00.
    On Saturday I decided that I was bored and went by taxi to look for a place where to buy beer after class time.
    Well, the taxi driver took me where I needed to, I bought everything there calmly, I’m going back, I ask the taxi driver: How so? I am a stranger and I go into the store, calmly buy (without a check) what is needed and this store has no problems?
    And the driver answers me: The owner of the store is the son of the city prosecutor.
    You think about it! Prosecutor !!!!!
    Everyone knows everything, including those who are supposed to, I am sure that everyone knows and those who are above.
    The conclusion is this.
    Our system ROTTED through, and to us, as I wrote earlier, they simply pour patriotic sweetness in our ears! hi

    CONCLUSION SUCH! What ... you stumbled over to look for a booze at the wrong time and place?
    The conclusion is that you gave birth to this prosecutor!
    1. 0
      9 June 2014 17: 02
      Quote: komrad.klim
      CONCLUSION SUCH! What ... you stumbled over to look for a booze at the wrong time and place?

      Well, the presence of "ears" for many of our laws is even difficult to discuss. Sometimes it seems that the deputies deliberately create some laws in order for the people to break them. Are you so correct that you never bought alcohol after ...? belay
      The second body, the third head ... how do you think the author, before writing the article, "was looking for booze in the wrong time and place?" wink
    2. wax
      0
      9 June 2014 22: 47
      And the conclusion may be that - the taxi driver does not bast like a tongue to wag, but he blamed the prosecutor’s family and there are no more questions, and they won’t go to the prosecutor’s office.
  45. arch_kate3
    +2
    9 June 2014 15: 59
    People, one must have a conscience! How much can be blamed on one person, even if he is president? But what are you doing to restore the country? God himself is helping Russia now! But if we don’t do anything ourselves, then everything will end badly ...
  46. -3
    9 June 2014 16: 04
    Putin has already made a choice in favor of his own security, in general, the key to understanding actions is gas, or oil, or both
  47. komrad.klim
    +2
    9 June 2014 16: 05
    For a hefty competent commentator, I suggest trying yourself as a leader of a small group, say, tourists, as an experiment. I would see how you organize a "herd" of 10 people, taking on the role of leader. How will this "herd" be satisfied with you, and will obey you ...
    And then I would speculate about 100000000 tourists under your strict guidance :-)))
  48. 0
    9 June 2014 16: 07
    In no case do not send troops now !!! Do not succumb to panic !!! People are dying - it is very bitter, but in order to win with minimal losses (and we only need to win) we need to thoroughly prepare.
    1. Citizens of the Russian Federation should for the most part be willing to lose something (someone), worsen their financial situation, and maybe sacrifice their health.
    2. For the majority of the multinational population of the Russian Federation (and Russians the most), it is simply necessary to create a punitive body (NKVD, gendarmerie, secret office, oprichina, police are not suitable for this). And so that they punish them without exception and publicly, so that there is animal fear, that you can’t betray your homeland (you can’t use bucks, etc., you can’t go to rest on a hill, you can’t ride and buy their cars, you can’t eat their poison, etc.)
    3. Regularly select money, property and other valuable things for the front, for the good of the state, for residents of fraternal Ukraine, at the discretion of the punitive body and the country's leadership.
    4. You can continue to draw up points, but it seems to me that from the first three, many Russians will immediately change their minds about the hasty deployment of troops, a sharp shutoff of the valve.
    PS First, it is necessary to establish strict order in our country, so that the country as a single mechanism ... and we don’t even have our own ideology, society does not strive for anything, as for itself, everyone spins as he can, gets a salary of 100.000 and he already spit on those who survive on 7.000 per month.
    The Russians are motley! Who is naked and who is wearing a fur coat. And the one who is in a fur coat or is already pecking the other with his foot, or is going to.
    1. 0
      9 June 2014 16: 57
      1. Need to really help "Novorossiya", and not "words of support"! Provide technical means for night outings. This will remove super losses from snipers. Provide ammunition and standard weapons. Strelkov claims that if he has a weapon, he can now put more than a thousand under arms. Artillery losses - no long-range weapons.

      Otherwise, there will be no one to help and all of our people in Ukraine, appreciating the "brotherly" help, will sadly go under Poroshenko and there will be no "Novorossiy"!
      And in Russia there will be a new "Swamp"!
    2. shvm1808
      0
      9 June 2014 16: 59
      Friend, you're right, but not in everything. For 37 years the Russian people, and especially Russia, do not need it, this is an overwhelming desire. But corruption and crime must be strangled on all fronts ....
      Best regards
  49. +3
    9 June 2014 16: 10
    Vladimir Vladimirovich, we are on your side. Good luck to you
  50. 0
    9 June 2014 16: 22
    I appeal to all the couch warriors: do not humiliate yourself with requests in Uncle Vova so that he would send troops to Ukraine, you yourself warriors mom do not grieve. Heroes are right as one to pick. Go to Ukraine right now, join the rebel army yourself and with your arms beat ukrofashi.
  51. ren1999
    0
    9 June 2014 16: 26
    Как-то глобально и заумно автор не видит таких мелочей как невозможность никакого суверенитета в стране , ориетированной на экспорт углеводородов и пр. сырья и импорт всего остального. Ни промышленного, ни продовольственного суверенитета.
    Корабли строим за границей, компонентной базы своей нет.

    Так что все его красивые мудрствования не более чем упражнение в красноречии.

    Нет, ребята все не так....
  52. 0
    9 June 2014 16: 30
    многие ругают президента.а если подумать.лучшего то не было и нет. даже близко ни одного кандидата. столько лет разваливали.он щас разгребает .как может и не плохо.в семье то своей разобраться не каждый может.а тут страна причем Великая Россия.ошибаться ни как нельзя.даже иностранцы искренне некоторые завидуют.Россия встает.
  53. P-38
    0
    9 June 2014 16: 38
    Путин... явно обманул ожидания тех, кто на первых порах его поддержал, так как отнесся к своей миссии слишком серьезно и принялся на самом деле методично восстанавливать суверенитет. Здесь берет начало возвращение России в историю. Этого как раз никто в элите не ожидал, и наиболее последовательные сторонники либерализма и западничества, прямые агенты влияния «конца истории» выделились в «пятую колонну», начав прямую конфронтацию с Путиным.

    Верно! Убеждён, сейчас, кроме силовиков, в правительстве по прежнему полно "демократов", или, как их сейчас называют, либерастов. И в окружении, и в крупном бизнесе тоже. Сейчас они ему мешают больше, чем Вашингтон, НАТО и ЕЭС, вместе взятые
  54. shvm1808
    +4
    9 June 2014 16: 53
    Братья славяне были уверены в том что старший брат придёт и наведёт порядок в "ИХ" доме. Наши мальчики будут воевать, а родственники встанут за спину старших и будут восхвалять победы своих старших. Закончилось песочное счастье ещё в 91году. Как наш президент все прошлые годы отстаивал теорию общеславянского дома, а ему в спину и шипели и плевали и ножи кидали, все те кто клялся в самом главном - в верности родству на крови прошлых побед. До тех пор пока наши украинские родственники не поднимут все свои жопы с матрасов не видать полномасштабной помощи от нас ей.
    Докажите своё право называться славянами своими действиями - мы не мешкая придём не помогать вам, а воевать за Русь..
    Какого бы ГОВНА на нашего президента не лили - я его уважаю и поддерживаю во всём с тех пор как он вошёл во власть. Лучшего лидера для Славян на сегодня нет. Мой фанатизм к Путину нулевой, а уважение на должном уровне. Если Верховный скажет пора взять оружие в руки - я исполню свой долг перед РОДИНОЙ и в свои 52 года не задумываясь. Он наш командир и точка. Да хранит нас всех господь и вера в РОССИЮ.
    Владимир Челябинск
  55. 0
    9 June 2014 17: 13
    Quote: shvm1808
    Если Верховный скажет пора взять оружие в руки - я исполню свой долг перед РОДИНОЙ и в свои 52 года не задумываясь.

    А за что оружие брать тоже не задумаетесь?
  56. donechin1
    0
    9 June 2014 17: 28
    Читать противно все это чушь и х-ня,заунывный бред
  57. +1
    9 June 2014 17: 32
    saag (1)- "А за что оружие брать тоже не задумаетесь?"

    Это вы задумаетесь - где щель поуютней и понадёжней. А он пойдёт в бой.
  58. 0
    9 June 2014 17: 46
    Quote: tasey
    А он пойдёт в бой.

    За интересы олигархов, браво, долой мозги, они лишние
  59. 0
    9 June 2014 17: 48
    Вчера по телевизору ни с того ни с сего показали заседание правительства во главе с Путиным, причем в прямом эфире. И то, что там происходило-было очень интересно. Оказалось, что Путин далеко на "глава" всего этого сборища, там на самом деле рулят олигархи. Причем разделенные на группировки и Путин нам нечто такое -сбоку припека. Это было явно видно, так как с ним разговаривали с усмешкой, перебивали и даже не давали и слова вставить. Это поразило до неприятности. Не Путин "рулит" нашей страной а "группировки олигархов". На этом заседании стала отчетливо видно уязвимое место Путина- у него нет опоры в стране на широкие массы, на трудящихся, на патриотов. Он опирается на узкий круг приближенных, которым, как он считает, можно доверять и потому полностью от них и зависит. И это его главная ошибка, боюсь, что найдутся силы, которые этой ошибкой и воспользуются. Увы.
  60. 0
    9 June 2014 17: 50
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    заседание правительства во главе с Путиным, причем в прямом эфире

    Это вы про заседание в Астрахани, тогда да, я небольшой кусок видел
    1. 0
      9 June 2014 18: 05
      Именно о нем. Неприглядное было зрелище, но во многом поучительное, избавляет от глупых "надежд" и "иллюзий"... Особенно неприятно поразило, чуть ли не заискивание, Путина, перед воротилами нефте-газового сектора, с производственниками, силовиками и пр. он разговаривал и разговаривает совсем по-другому.
      1. 0
        9 June 2014 23: 37
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat (1)

        Я смотрел. А что вы хотели? Кулаком по столу? Крик и ругань? Путин внимательно выслушал ВСЕХ! Решение будет позже! Пора отходить от понятий, что руководитель это выпученные глаза и лужённая глотка!
  61. +1
    9 June 2014 19: 01
    Непонятно одно.Вся пятая колонна на виду.Не можешь сам,отдай негласную команду раздолбать эту колонну в пух и прах.Люди найдутся.Дипломатия тоже вещь неплохая,но тайно поставляй оружие и добровольцев в любом количестве.Готовь диверсантов в лагерях,как это делает Запад.Мы что,в толстовцы записались что-ли?Бьют по правой,подставь левую щеку.Посмотришь,в Россию плюёт каждая сволочь,типа Латвии с сотоварищи.А мы утираемся постоянно.До какой степени терпеть-то будем?Господа из Госдумы,господин Президент,господин премьер-министр-это к вам вопрос.
  62. Grandfather Victor
    +1
    9 June 2014 19: 19
    Если Путин не знает, что делать с "пятой" и "шестой" колоннами, то имеет смысл вызвать для совета дух Лаврентия Павловича, он то точно знает, как надо поступать с врагами государства!
  63. Alex 1977
    0
    9 June 2014 19: 31
    Quote: ATATA

    And the driver answers me: The owner of the store is the son of the city prosecutor.
    You think about it! Prosecutor !!!!!
    Everyone knows everything, including those who are supposed to, I am sure that everyone knows and those who are above.
    The conclusion is this.
    Our system ROTTED through, and to us, as I wrote earlier, they simply pour patriotic sweetness in our ears! hi

    Quote: ATATA
    Quote: lelikas
    I asked why - the answer is simple - but how else will we make a plan?
    I doubt very much the sincerity of your interlocutor, now it is not socialism and there is no need to make a plan. Now interested in profit.
    And it is unlikely that they will not share power with anyone for this profit.
    And believe me, to sell alcohol at night today, the familiar PPSnik would clearly not be enough.

    Странно, видимо у вашего сына прокурора рука и в Питере.
    В одном районе жил, ларек и магазин торговали, в другой переехал, снова можно бухло купить. Причем ларек и магазин "черный".
    В смысле персонал не русский. А первые два как раз русские оба.
    Вы наивны просто до слез. Страшно, предельно далеки от народа.
    В СССР при сухом законе водкой спокойно торговали таксисты например. Несмотря на недремлющую "кровавую гебню" ТМ. Алкоголь это вообще не показатель. Кстати план в коммерческих магазинах есть. Просто его не Госплан задает, а хозяин. Считайте - минимальная выручка.
  64. w2000
    0
    9 June 2014 19: 41
    Очередное дугинское засовывание языка в задницу путину.
  65. 0
    9 June 2014 19: 50
    "Говорить правду и метко стрелять из лука" - девиз древних героев Персии. Всё это у него есть, верю ему однозначно. Здорово быть верным таким людям.
  66. bda
    bda
    +1
    9 June 2014 20: 22
    Quote: shvm1808
    37 года русскому народу и тем более России не нужно, это запредельное желание. А вот коррупцию и преступность надо душить на всех фронтах....


    Если сейчас, в один прекрасный момент, по велению "волшебной палочки" спуститься в наши правоохранительные органы (МВД, прокуратура, суды, ФСБ) "небесный десант" абсолютно честных и всесильных сотрудников, которые поднимут все дела, раскопают все преступления за последние 25 лет и привлекут всех виновных (хотя бы в тяжких преступлениях) и их сознательных покровителей к ответственности: 1937 год покажется детской, такой, предетской сказкой про добрую бабашку, обещающей поставить в угол маньяка Чикатило.
  67. s1н7т
    +1
    9 June 2014 20: 42
    Бредовая какая-то статья. Рабы, господа, "мистическое тело", средневековые философы - это всё на жертв ЕГЭ рассчитано, наверное? laughing
    Автор высоко оценивает "реформы" Путина - например, образования? Как среднее, которое скоро доведут до уровня ЦПШ, так и высшее, которое делают недоступным для многих - нормальная такая реформа! laughing
    Когда в 95-м первый раз работал на выборах, двигали кандидата, типа, независимого, с целью не выиграть (для этого другой кандидат был), а отобрать голоса у КПРФ. Финансировал Газпром, который национальное достояние. Кандидат был из окружения Черномырдина, из тех, кто придумывал Единство, а потом и ЕР(один из этой команды потом сидел на финпотоках на "восстановление" Чечни"). ЕР - опора Путина(как ни крути, до сих пор). Таким образом, легко прослеживается участие Газпрома в "становлении" и поддержке нынешней власти, в т.ч. Путина. Можно говорить, что интересы Газпрома и Путина совпадают. Отсюда вывод: Газпром - экономический двигатель нынешней власти (кто не верит, помнится, доля нефти/газа в доходах СССР была много меньше, чем теперь, на порядки), а экономика при капитализме рулит политикой. И пусть автор всё "вечное, доброе", что он приписывает Путину, засунет себе - ну, сам догадается! laughing РФ в лице Путина, конечно, бьётся за первые места в мире, но правильно будет - на мировом рынке, думаю. Остальное - по барабану! Да, и рынок тот, в основном, сырьевой, увы!
    Короче, не верю я выкормышам гнезда Собчаковского, и всё тут! Хороших людей там не пестовали laughing
  68. ARGUS
    0
    9 June 2014 21: 59
    при всех вышеперечисленных заслугах он сквозь пальцы смотрел на планомерное разрушение армии мебельщиком
  69. Camouflet
    0
    9 June 2014 22: 28
    Много разных умных и совершенно ненужных слов в этой статье. Ни асилил. Очень скучно.
    Комментарий только один: доколе можно терпеть 5-ю колонну? Уже все её участники давно должны валить лес в Сибири. Тов. Путин, чего тянешь?
  70. maxim1
    +1
    9 June 2014 23: 43
    Что-то не нашел у автора деталировки логики патриотов в том, что угроза мировой войны в случае её (этой логики) принятия как директивы к действию становится неизбежной, ведет к полной изоляции России, мощнейшим санкциям (на которые ЕС согласен) и далеко не спасительным союзом с Китаем и Ираном.
    В этом смысле логика патриотов побеждает в реалиях только в случае мирового восстания (войны) против США. Она возможна как ответ в первую очередь арабского мира (Иран, Палестина, Сирия и их союзники) на агрессию США, а также ослабление Европы и США в случае ответных санкций России и Китая. Насчет Китая - вопрос.
    ВВП, понимая страшные последствия военного конфликта, всячески демонстрирует полное отсутствие агрессии по отношения к Новороссии со стороны России, что в совокупности расценивается обществом как слабость, неуверенность, чуть-ли не предательство и "слив". Трудно позавидовать ДНР, но если взвесить цену предстоящей победы, она в самом деле для Новороссии неимоверно дорогая.
    Вот и "сидит" ВВП внешне тихо "в засаде", ожидая изменение глобальной ситуации явно не в пользу апологетов однополярного мира, которое неизбежно должно произойти. А какая работа в этом направлении ведется нам и не положено видеть и до поры-времени знать. Можно только пока догадываться.
  71. 0
    9 June 2014 23: 44
    так как история всегда есть семантика чередования войны и мира

    Обычно я с осторожностью отношусь к статьям, в которых в самом начале заметил ошибки. И здесь я не могу согласиться с цитатой. "Всегда есть" можно заменить на "была". Сказать по другому, значит согласиться на бесконечную череду войн и мира.
    Ну и до самого конца статьи - идёт изложение интерпретации автора о фигуре Путина. Как и во всех предыдущих дебатах о "роли личности в истории", я всегда остаюсь на позициях философии. Личность и общество - две стороны некого общего. И все рассуждения о некой второй материализации царей - есть недоговорённость в области определений.
    Лично я не знаю, что на уме у Путина, что на уме у его консультантов и влиятельных лиц окружения. С аналогичной уверенностью (или неуверенностью) можно утверждать, что история последних месяцев - это результат удачно сложившихся обстоятельств с Крымом и испуганного позицией Запада руководства страны. Чем не теория?
    Читателям как раз важны не теории, а факты, прямо объясняющие события или (что ещё лучше!) 90% процентное предсказание развития следующих событий. Иначе статья быстро забывается. Она не может формировать отношение читателя к событиям.
    Пока Украина всё-ещё катится по рельсам фашизма и войны. Российская позиция по этому поводу достаточно мягкая, не считая осуждений. А вот фактом остаётся лишь одно - границы остались незаблокированными. И этот факт даёт надежду на то, что когда-то мы действительно узнаем, о чём же думал Путин в те дни...
  72. polkownik1
    0
    10 June 2014 01: 01
    Да нет необходимости нам ехать добровольцами в Донецк-Славянск-Луганск ! Давайте посмотрим на странный факт: где главная "ударная" сила Донбасса, шахтёры ? Та сила, которая в прежние времена добивалась своего без стрельбы. Та сила, о которой говорил Янукович ("Вот когда шахтёры поднимутся ...!!!") Где ? Там, где вполне безопасно. Под землёй. На рабочих местах, принадлежащих Ахметовым - Коломойским и Ко. Их хаты оказались с краю, им надо семьи кормить и т.п. Сколько их ? Десятки тысяч здоровых, крепких молодых мужиков. И им не надо ! Так что же они скажут, в таком случае, если мы придём и поможем ополченцам попереть их хозяев ? "Хто платить зарплату будет ?" Это - один из десятков вопросов, на которые должен найти(или получить) ответ ВВП , прежде чем принять силовое решение.
    1. 0
      10 June 2014 01: 20
      Тут странным образом вспоминается идеология КПСС. Там говорилось, что рабочий класс НЕ СПОСОБЕН самостоятельно организоваться для защиты своих интересов. И теперь я этому начинаю искренне верить, основываясь на результате "донбасского эксперимента". Похоже, что это - эхо краха СССР, который "избавил" рабочий класс от ведущей роли партии. Кто знает, может в этом лежат причины шахтёрской пассивности? Не к ночи будет помянуто, но так и в партию могут записать...
  73. 0
    10 June 2014 03: 39
    Нельзя...!!! Нельзя нам Новороссию отдать на растерзание...!!! Помочь надо. Оружием, Продовольствием, Добровольцами, Наемниками, Деньгами. Создать подконтрольные властям счета. Пропоганда. Все что угодно!!! Только не отдавать фашистам Новороссию и Украину в целом!!! Один - в поле не воин! Помочь надо Путину всем народом!!!
  74. 0
    10 June 2014 06: 51
    Quote: ATATA
    On Saturday I decided that I was bored and went by taxi to look for a place where to buy beer after class time.

    Вот настоящая причина наших бед - мы сами решаем, когда и как нарушать законы. Нам не приходит в голову сесть в субботу в 22.00 в такси, проехать по магазинам, где хозяйствуют дети прокуроров, под видеосъёмку накупить спиртного, наутро выложить ролик в инет и написать заявления во все полиции/потребнадзоры. Нам скучно без гавнища, потому мы в нем и живём. А сыны прокуроские просто раньше нас успевают занять подвальчики и возвести павильончики, где наше гавнище превращается в деньги.
  75. genybra
    0
    10 June 2014 08: 08
    Quote: Belarus
    He knows if the GDP pipe is more important. And civilian deaths are statistics.


    Ребята, ну неужели еще не понятно, что "труба" пресловутая это один из видов оружия, которым мы сейчас ведем глобальную экономическую войну с западом???
    В Славянске все решает автомат и храбрость.
    Но война идет и на глобальном уровне и трубы наши с газом тут получше ракет будут.
    Проиграем в трубной войне - ничем не поможем Славянску.
    А вот когда выиграем, увидите что будет...

    Так что давайте наберемся терпения и хладнокровия.
  76. Speznaz t
    0
    13 June 2014 12: 45
    «Шествую колонну», "пятую колонну" в щепки! Хватит терпеть уже это все!Отступать нельзя! Братские народы будут вместе! Патриоты Родины, вперед!

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