Strelkov told what he expects from the presidency Poroshenko

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Strelkov told what he expects from the presidency PoroshenkoThe commander of the self-defense forces of the city of Slavyansk, Igor Strelkov, said that the balance of forces between the opposing sides in the city is extremely difficult for them. He noted that with the arrival of Poroshenko, the situation will only get worse.

"I think the situation will change for the worse, because now this so-called legitimate president will immediately seek help from NATO and the West. We will wait for new NATO Tanks, advisers and mercenaries. There will be more shells, soldiers and victims, ”Igor Strelkov commented.

On the eve of the Ukrainian military resumed the attack on Slavyansk. According to Strelkov, 19 shells of 152 caliber of millimeter exploded in the city. On the morning of June 7 the neighborhood Artem was shelled. Militia posts are on the perimeter of Slavyansk, but the enemy, as Strelkov says, regularly hits residential areas.

“They are tagging our headquarters, but since they cannot reach it, they hit residential buildings. Yesterday, shells hit the Pioneer House, the store, and the parking lot,” said Igor Strelkov. “The enemy finished off his two airborne combat vehicles, which we dismantled for parts. They got what is called in the box, and they finished off. "

Strelkov cited statistics according to which in Slavyansk in the infantry there are about five to six Ukrainian servicemen per militia. According to him, 50 – 60 artillery units and one or two Grad batteries, as well as a large number of tanks are concentrated in the city.

“The balance of forces remains rather heavy. Most of the enemy’s artillery is focused on positions that are out of reach for us,” the Slavyansk defense forces commander clarified. in condition. Our mortars do not reach the positions of howitzers. Especially since there are such calibers as 240 millimeters. "

Recall from April 15 in the east of Ukraine is undergoing anti-terrorist operation, which killed hundreds of people, including civilians. The fighting in Slavyansk has been going on for over a month now, the city has been in food blockade. Also, the city does not receive pensions and social benefits from Kiev.
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  1. +15
    8 2014 June
    I wonder if Porosenko knows how to spell "war crimes"?
    1. +42
      8 2014 June
      Quote: Nagan
      I wonder if Porosenko knows how to spell "war crimes"?

      With confidence, only one thing can be said - he knows how they are accomplished.
      1. +12
        8 2014 June
        Well, I would hope that someday the court will explain this to him.
        1. +9
          8 2014 June
          Quote: Nagan
          I wonder if Porosenko knows how to spell "war crimes"?
          Pornoshenko may not know, but his overseas curators know perfectly well
          a couple of cities .. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are named after them. They did not shoot at Chicago and Houston. Yes, they sent soldiers to the "islands." Nagant, respect to you, the politics of the American country negative
          1. +2
            8 2014 June
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            .Nagan, you respect, the politics of the American country negative

            Better not turn me on this topic. Just to briefly list the idiocy in American foreign policy from the end of World War II to the present day, you can’t do the post, you need an article, but laziness to write. And if expanded, you get a thick book.
            True, we have somewhat different views on the goals of politics and the causes of failures, but the assessment is close.
            1. 0
              9 2014 June
              as Lao Tzu used to say: while a white-breasted vulture butts with a yellow-faced dragon, let the Russian bear sit in the raspberry and watch. From myself I will add: .. the bears' eyesight is very sharp-sighted. So much so that you can forget about raspberries. I’m anti-American, but for the simple American people .....................
        2. +7
          8 2014 June
          Quote: Nagan
          Well, I would hope that someday the court will explain this to him.

          Long live the SOVIET COURT - the most humane court in the world!
          I’m not very hopeful for the Hague!
          1. +18
            8 2014 June
            И
            Quote: Arberes
            Long live the SOVIET COURT - the most humane court in the world!
            And yes, long live our valiant escorts, the most polite escorts in the world. Polite people, as they say soldier
            1. +6
              8 2014 June
              such a crowd, but it’s a ride to Kiev, feel
            2. +5
              8 2014 June
              Yes !!! There was a time.
          2. Validator
            +4
            8 2014 June
            Quote: Arberes
            Long live the SOVIET COURT - the most humane court in the world!

            In fact, most likely there will be a Rostov garrison for them. Zhirik promised
        3. +4
          8 2014 June
          Not a court him- a military tribunal.
          1. +1
            8 2014 June
            Quote: aleks_29296
            Not a court him- a military tribunal.

            The military tribunal is also a court. As they say, not every fish is a herring, but every herring is a fish.
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        5. +48
          8 2014 June
          Fighters will push him faster in Kiev!

          07.06.14. A letter from near Slavyansk from the militia.

          "I look through the sight of the" Cliff "and see the following picture:" Children! 18-year-old boys-DRAWERS, thin, undernourished ... There is an APC, they fearfully huddle up to it in a bunch, they cannot even disperse. And then a Pravosek or a National Guard (such a commissar) sticks out of the bat and gives the order to attack, and drives the boys to slaughter. I look at them - and tears in my eyes, sorry for the boys ...
          Why am I fighting here? For many, it sounds pathetic, but we have almost everyone fighting for it: for Russia, for the people, for the Orthodox faith .. We are not Ukrainians! Although I, by blood, and according to my passport, a crest, and in the army nicknamed me Khokhlom - I am Russian, and my wife is Russian, and my children are Russian, who were called Orthodox by the holy calendar. So, we have no other way but to free the earth from Bandera evil.
          And someone will smile sarcastically now, but I, as a scout, and at present I’m promising to the calculation commander, we’ll definitely reach Kiev,
          1. Vita_vko
            +3
            8 2014 June
            9:00 The approximate losses of punitive in technology for yesterday were calculated: 15-20 units of auto equipment, two tanks, mortar crew, howitzer, MI-8 helicopter (to be specified), UAV.
            9:00 Militia returned control posts at the entrance to Krasny Liman.

            If we keep such an offensive pace for at least a month, then really soon the Liberation Army of the DPR and LPR will be in Kiev and hoist the flags on the Rada like our grandfathers on the Reichstag.
          2. +4
            8 2014 June
            God help such soldiers! I understand with my soul that I need to go to this "Cliff" ..., but with my mind from the Moscow region I understand something else. Wouldn't my children and grandchildren have to "bite my elbows" because I didn't get up "under the gun" ... Does Putin have a "cunning plan"? "Grads" for Slavyansk are working, but Putin has a "cunning plan"! Up to the stake ?!
        6. +1
          8 2014 June
          no ships are needed .. this one will pay off .. this one is used to buying everything in life! snap to trucks and break! here is the only court for these creatures
        7. 0
          8 2014 June
          But what court? All European courts are controlled by the Americans. request
      2. WKS
        +3
        8 2014 June
        Quote: Hariva
        With confidence, only one thing can be said - he knows how they are accomplished.
        I believe that you are exaggerating his mental abilities. He, as a baby, most likely does not suspect what he is doing ... Unless, of course, judged by his public statements. Was Crimea, is and will be Ukrainian? ... Will I return it to Ukraine? ... In the coming days I will go to the Donbass? ... I will talk with the people of Donbass, and not with criminals who took up arms? .. Fat to Ukraine! ... Fat to the heroes? ... etc.
      3. +1
        8 2014 June
        Alas, Strelkov’s fears are absolutely appropriate .... And in general:
        1) Russia loses in Ukraine and loses almost in full (the only gift of fate is Crimea, which came not because of Putin's genius and clear actions of Russia, but solely because of the arrogance and wretchedness of the actions of the Americans (at that time, wretchedness, later they made conclusions and are now acting competently) Not only is Putin officially recognizing the fascist-Bandera government with a piglet at its head the other day (de facto it was already recognized and the handle in Normandy was shaking hands - a betrayal of Donbass, you cannot say otherwise ... But there was a record of the February events, when the junta sacrificed the notorious "Heavenly Hundred", accusing Yanyk of all sins, and from this record it is clearly visible and audible that the organizer of this provocation with snipers (one of), in addition to the American owners, is Mr. Porosenko ( I mean that our putative in the same Normandy said that "Mr. Poroshenko has not yet smeared his hands with blood" and "there is a unique chance to stop the bloodshed" and he carried other I then ??? to pronounce such heresy - after all, the piglet is ALREADY soiled in blood, moreover to the elbow, and besides, he has already said in plain text many times that the ATO will continue and "there is nothing to talk with terrorists about, they must be destroyed" ... Putyatich, are you a girl who was promised a woman (four villagers), but they just laughed in a circle of letting go. She then cried ... In general, I have 6 years since, starting with the Georgian turmoil in August 2008, a persistent feeling - that Putin is a complete zero as a strategist and even more zero as a KGB nickname ... He is not professional to horror, it is not for nothing that he had to be a taxi driver work after organs ...
        Well, and 3) - on this topic there is a magnificent, simply chic article on Ruspravda, the link
        http://ruspravda.info/Est-li-u-Kremlya-ukrainskaya-strategiya-5342.html

        4) As a resume, I’m wanging - to our great bitterness and our great Russian misfortune, our leadership is mediocre and we will get 2000 km of the border with a fascist-Bandera, extremely hostile country, and the threats of the PSs that Chechnya will seem to Russia as paradise are fully realized .... (They will poison our wells in Rostov, Belgorod, Kursk regions, carry out terrorist attacks throughout the European part of Russia, destroy trains, throw out explicit killers as part of sabotage groups. Well, NATO bases will be in Kharkov and Lugansk regions ... But all the chances were, almost without blood and strain, to introduce polite people EVEN in MARCH, simultaneously with Krym !!!, at least in the 3 eastern regions, and now there would already be New Russia, or the Donbass republic, with quite a referendum, friendly to Russia a country that would be a buffer, at the forefront, fought with Bandera, worked for our military industrial complex, building engines for helicopters and aircraft, tanks and armored personnel carriers on a Kharkov tank, and we would help financially oh and military, by specialists and gebists, by placing orders and gas discounts (and not by the Kiev junta, which I’m ready to give cheaply again, in fact I sponsor Bandera - shame and shame and nothing more) ... Alas, Putin in foreign policy and the Americans don’t match the strategy, and with dullness it’s both psak and obama .... They take the system and a clearly implemented thought-out strategy, which they methodically and rigorously implement, for some misfires of course. And we don’t have any strategy forever, hanging out like an @ in the ice hole ... Putin and his analysts / Kremlin tusnya are truly mediocre ... He would be a business executive, he seems to be there, he lifted the country in this regard. ..
        1. +2
          8 2014 June
          Everything is well marked !!!
    2. +4
      8 2014 June
      Quote: Nagan
      I wonder if Porosenko knows how to spell "war crimes"?

      He knows ... He graduated from MGIMO ...
      But the patronage of the USA and the thirst for power-money completely turned off the mind.
      1. +3
        8 2014 June
        Everything is all right with reason there, and we could still learn from our little friend, because with such gorgeous chances in March, so merge everything in May ....
        1) Russia loses in Ukraine and loses almost in full (the only gift of fate is Crimea, which came not because of Putin's genius and clear actions of Russia, but solely because of the arrogance and wretchedness of the actions of the Americans (at that time, wretchedness, later they made conclusions and are now acting competently) Not only is Putin officially recognizing the fascist-Bandera government with a piglet at its head the other day (de facto it was already recognized and the handle in Normandy was shaking hands - a betrayal of Donbass, you cannot say otherwise ... But there was a record of the February events, when the junta sacrificed the notorious "Heavenly Hundred", accusing Yanyk of all sins, and from this record it is clearly visible and audible that the organizer of this provocation with snipers (one of), in addition to the American owners, is Mr. Porosenko ( I mean that our putative in the same Normandy said that "Mr. Poroshenko has not yet smeared his hands with blood" and "there is a unique chance to stop the bloodshed" and he carried other I then ??? to pronounce such heresy - after all, the piglet is ALREADY soiled in blood, moreover to the elbow, and besides, he has already said in plain text many times that the ATO will continue and "there is nothing to talk with terrorists about, they must be destroyed" ... Putyatich, are you a girl who was promised a woman (four villagers), but they just laughed in a circle of letting go. She then cried ... In general, I have 6 years since, starting with the Georgian turmoil in August 2008, a persistent feeling - that Putin is a complete zero as a strategist and even more zero as a KGB nickname ... He is not professional to horror, it is not for nothing that he had to be a taxi driver work after organs ...
        Well, and 3) - on this topic there is a magnificent, simply chic article on Ruspravda, the link
        http://ruspravda.info/Est-li-u-Kremlya-ukrainskaya-strategiya-5342.html

        4) As a resume, I’m wanging - to our great bitterness and our great Russian misfortune, our leadership is mediocre and we will get 2000 km of the border with a fascist-Bandera, extremely hostile country, and the threats of the PSs that Chechnya will seem to Russia as paradise are fully realized .... (They will poison our wells in Rostov, Belgorod, Kursk regions, carry out terrorist attacks throughout the European part of Russia, destroy trains, throw out explicit killers as part of sabotage groups. Well, NATO bases will be in Kharkov and Lugansk regions ... But all the chances were, almost without blood and strain, to introduce polite people EVEN in MARCH, simultaneously with Krym !!!, at least in the 3 eastern regions, and now there would already be New Russia, or the Donbass republic, with quite a referendum, friendly to Russia a country that would be a buffer, at the forefront, fought with Bandera, worked for our military industrial complex, building engines for helicopters and aircraft, tanks and armored personnel carriers on a Kharkov tank, and we would help financially oh and military, by specialists and gebists, by placing orders and gas discounts (and not by the Kiev junta, which I’m ready to give cheaply again, in fact I sponsor Bandera - shame and shame and nothing more) ... Alas, Putin in foreign policy and the Americans don’t match the strategy, and with dullness it’s both psak and obama .... They take the system and a clearly implemented thought-out strategy, which they methodically and rigorously implement, for some misfires of course. And we don’t have any strategy forever, hanging out like an @ in the ice hole ... Putin and his analysts / Kremlin tusnya are truly mediocre ... He would be a business executive, he seems to be there, he lifted the country in this regard. ..
        1. 0
          9 2014 June
          very subjective, do not try to seem better than you really are, do not be clever ... bully
      2. +2
        8 2014 June
        Quote: Corsair
        Quote: Nagan
        I wonder if Porosenko knows how to spell "war crimes"?

        He knows ... He graduated from MGIMO ...
        You are wrong, he graduated from Kiev University, which before MGIMO as before China in a famous position. And he could not get into MGIMO with his maiden name Valtsman. lol
    3. +8
      8 2014 June
      On June 7, the building of the Kiev City Hall on Khreshchatyk 36 was cleaned from the Maidan activists living in it in an infinitely cynical way. The Nazis had a wealth of experience worked out in Odessa Khatyn, but it was hard to imagine that they would use it against their yesterday’s revolutionaries.

      This is how striking the Ukrainian media describe the incident. This description is a kind of literary masterpiece, quote verbatim:

      “Maidan activists living in the building barricaded themselves in their offices and set up a small fire. After that, they began to peer out the windows and shout that they were trying to evict and burn them alive, ”Ukrainian journalists report perplexedly.

      Further more!

      “After some time, ALL-TAKI activists opened the door, because it became difficult to breathe in a smoky room. Self-defense ordered them to leave the room. “They obeyed, however, saving their lives, along the way, they brought along monitors and computer boards.”

      "Self-defense detained activists, seized property belonging to the Kyiv City State Administration, and is currently waiting for the police to register the theft of property and arrest them."

      Translated from idiotic into Russian: it turns out that the Odessa junta worked out the Odessa experience in the Kiev city hall, even did not invent other explanations. Immediately after the inauguration of the curly oligarch (or right during it), the ill-fated gardeners of the Maidan were driven into a stone shed, set on fire from the inside, and when they began to climb out of the windows from horror, they released them, they tied them, they sent criminal cases on absurd occasions and sentenced to rot for absurd reasons prisons.

      Unlike the residents of Odessa, they were not hacked into pieces, raped or tortured right in the building. But they fiercely hinted that this is quite possible, and the anthem of Ukraine will not save anyone, and the yellow-blue flag can also be shoved far away. Notice how sour now the video "glory to the heroes!"

      After such an overwhelming, directly Martian cynicism, we can say that the Maidan is over. And parsley remained a matter of hours.
    4. +18
      8 2014 June
      “The fighters of the national anti-fascist resistance of Donbass managed to destroy 25% of punitive combat helicopters in a month of fighting,” states Igor Panarin, doctor of political sciences, specialist in information wars, full member of the Academy of Military Sciences. “As of January 1, 2014, there were 72 combat helicopters in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, of which only 60 could fly. However, world practice shows that after 35% of losses pilots stop flying because of fear.”
      The total damage to the punitive in the Donbass from May 2 to June 5, 2014, according to Panarin’s calculations, amounted to 2150 people. “A feature of the last day is the transition of 26 Ukrainian border guards from the border of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions to Russia,” the expert testifies. - And the fighters of the national anti-fascist resistance managed to destroy the Mi-8 punitive helicopter. So, the total losses of the punitive - 2150 people (killed, wounded, prisoners), of which 1020 extremists of the "Right Sector", mainly included in the National Guard, as well as losses among the servicemen of the National Guard of Ukraine (on May 29, the head was killed under Slavyansk the National Guard’s combat training department, Major General Sergey Kulchitsky), 670 Ukrainian mercenaries of the oligarch Igor Kolomoisky (special battalions of Ukrainian mercenaries Kolomoisky “Dnepr”, “Donbass” and “Azov”, heads of mercenaries Kolomoisky Demidenko and Bereza were killed in Mariupol), 95 employees of the Security Service of Ukraine (Sumy Alpha was completely destroyed, Kiev, Poltava, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk, Lviv, Rivne, Lutsk, Volyn, Vinnitsa, Zhytomyr Alpha suffered heavy losses, etc.), 125 foreign mercenaries (Polish PMC ASBS Othago ”lost 21 people, the American PMC Greystone - 29, the American PMC Asademi (until 2009 known as Blackwater) - 70. Baltic women snipers lost five people), 80 military personnel of 95 airmobile Zhytomyr brigade, 20 military personnel of 25 airmobile Dnepropetrovsk brigade, 50 military personnel of the Lugansk border detachment, 25 military personnel of the 16th military aviation brigade (Brody, Lviv region, ten military personnel of the Polar aviation (831 brigade) 25 employees of the CIA and the FBI (13 killed, 12 wounded), 30 employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Destroyed equipment: one Su-25 aircraft, two Su-24 aircraft, 15 combat helicopters (Mi-24, Mi-17 and Mi-8), three T-64 tanks, three Hammers, two GAZ-66, four Urals, four KAMAZ, two SAU-Nona, three D-30 howitzers, eight airborne combat vehicles, 26 armored personnel carriers.
      1. +5
        8 2014 June
        What a rusty piece of iron! The main moral damage! Downed the groundless warriors!
      2. yacht
        +2
        8 2014 June
        I will say so, the numbers are credible, although it is not clear where such accuracy is from departments, not otherwise intelligence data. And this is ... a link if you can ...
        1. +9
          8 2014 June
          Yes, everything is clear! There is a place in the trash! Http: //topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/058/oqoj819.jpg
    5. +6
      8 2014 June
      While the USA supports him, he doesn’t know such words
      1. +3
        8 2014 June
        Quote: treble 72019
        While the USA supports him, he doesn’t know such words

        Yes, you can swing as much as you like. But it’s not enough, the grabber has not grown. And even the one that has grown is not worth it. request
  2. +17
    8 2014 June
    Guys heroes without exaggeration! Is there really nobody in Russia who would throw dozens of something long-range-effective and killer-anti-aircraft?
    1. +43
      8 2014 June
      When does the Russian leadership really render military material assistance to the Russian people of Donbass?
      No need to send troops, otherwise Russia will be recognized as the aggressor with all the ensuing consequences, this is clear to the majority. But unofficial REAL help with weapons, specialists in volunteers in the crews of military vehicles can provide.
      Remember the events of the Georgian war on 08.08.08., When Ukrainian air defense crews on the side of the Georgian fascists shot down Russian pilots, by the decision and direction of the then leadership of Ukraine.
      And the leadership of Russia, what is shy? Liberal pro-American lobbies in the supreme power of Russia do not give?
      What are they waiting for? When they crush the Russian people in the Donbass and in the whole of New Russia, and move to Russia?
      1. green
        +14
        8 2014 June
        Russia is still ruled by the oligarchy, that’s the reason.
      2. +1
        8 2014 June
        Quote: vladimirZ
        [b] ...
        Remember the events of the Georgian war on 08.08.08., When Ukrainian air defense crews on the side of the Georgian fascists shot down Russian pilots, by the decision and direction of the then leadership of Ukraine.
        And the leadership of Russia, what is shy? Liberal pro-American lobbies in the supreme power of Russia do not give?
        [b] What are they waiting for? When they crush the Russian people in the Donbass and in the whole of New Russia, and move to Russia? [/ B]


        If the Russian Football Union (RFU) decided to include Crimea and Sevastopol in the football federation, sanctions could be applied to Russia up to suspension from participation in all international competitions, the RFU honorary president Vyacheslav Koloskov said.
        1. +1
          8 2014 June
          Quote: poquello
          If the Russian Football Union (RFU) decided to include Crimea and Sevastopol in the football federation, sanctions could be applied to Russia up to suspension from participation in all international competitions, the RFU honorary president Vyacheslav Koloskov said.

          Yeah! And the Russian team will immediately lose the title of champions of Europe, the world, and, most importantly, the title of the Olympic champion of the planet in football !!!
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. +14
        8 2014 June
        Quote: vladimirZ
        What are they waiting for? When they crush the Russian people in the Donbass and in the whole of New Russia, and move to Russia?


        I recall the rallies in support of the Crimea. Do you remember? Countrywide! Despite the fact that they did not bomb there. And now? Silence. Breathe under the bombs.
        I have a question. Did you go by the order?
        1. +9
          8 2014 June
          Quote: SHILO
          I have a question. Did you go by the order?

          Undoubtedly, they walked of their own free will, but organizing a rally of several thousand people is a long and complicated matter, but to bring all party members to it by order is a simple matter.
          Rallies that are "spontaneous" gather 20-40 people, a hundred is already sold out.
          1. +4
            8 2014 June
            Put + for frankness.
            And again a question. There is no desire to go without an order in support of the DPR-LPR?
            And a video to help. Watch to the end.
            1. +7
              8 2014 June
              Quote: SHILO
              Put + for frankness.
              And again a question. There is no desire to go without an order in support of the DPR-LPR?
              And a video to help. Watch to the end.

              We have already discussed this with MG42. http://topwar.ru/49956-chto-nam-delat-s-ukrainoy-7-liberalnyh-tezisov-vedomostey
              -i-nashi-otvety-na-nih.html # comment-id-2720522
              Actually my opinion about the crane remains valid.
              Here it is necessary not to hold a meeting, but to do something more seriously - a minimum supply of weapons and specialists in their use and sabotage activities. But alas, I will not help.
              For me, this is https://vk.com/public71168780 much better.
              1. +1
                8 2014 June
                Quote: lelikas
                For me, this is https://vk.com/public71168780 much better.


                God grant that comes.
            2. +1
              8 2014 June
              I looked, and not only that, Kostyan! My advantages will not make you feel better, but hang on, guys, maybe our prez is not with you, but Kuzbass (in any case, my friends and acquaintances) is for you!
        2. +2
          8 2014 June
          Good afternoon, Kostya. How is it, badly?
          1. +12
            8 2014 June
            Quote: retired
            Good afternoon, Kostya. How is it, badly?


            Hello Jura. Everything is very bad. If Strelkov falls, the Donetsk people will agree. I didn’t get to Strelok - I lied late. I stand in my free time at a checkpoint near Donetsk. I dream about one thing - so that immediately, so as not to suffer.
            1. +6
              8 2014 June
              Yeah ... Hang on Kostya. Good luck to you.
        3. +1
          8 2014 June
          Quote: SHILO
          I have a question. Did you go by the order?

          On the go-ahead, from the top ...
        4. 0
          8 2014 June
          Quote: SHILO
          . Did you go by the order?

          And you thought ?! Only the clock runs "on the fence"! SHILO, are you so naive? Does not look like!
      5. iw-lankof2011
        -2
        8 2014 June
        Quote: vladimirZ
        When does the Russian leadership really render military material assistance to the Russian people of Donbass?
        No need to send troops, otherwise Russia will be recognized as the aggressor with all the ensuing consequences, this is clear to the majority. But unofficial REAL help with weapons, specialists in volunteers in the crews of military vehicles can provide.
        Remember the events of the Georgian war on 08.08.08., When Ukrainian air defense crews on the side of the Georgian fascists shot down Russian pilots, by the decision and direction of the then leadership of Ukraine.
        And the leadership of Russia, what is shy? Liberal pro-American lobbies in the supreme power of Russia do not give?
        What are they waiting for? When they crush the Russian people in the Donbass and in the whole of New Russia, and move to Russia?

        They are waiting for the promised three years !!!
      6. iw-lankof2011
        -1
        8 2014 June
        Quote: vladimirZ
        When does the Russian leadership really render military material assistance to the Russian people of Donbass?
        No need to send troops, otherwise Russia will be recognized as the aggressor with all the ensuing consequences, this is clear to the majority. But unofficial REAL help with weapons, specialists in volunteers in the crews of military vehicles can provide.
        Remember the events of the Georgian war on 08.08.08., When Ukrainian air defense crews on the side of the Georgian fascists shot down Russian pilots, by the decision and direction of the then leadership of Ukraine.
        And the leadership of Russia, what is shy? Liberal pro-American lobbies in the supreme power of Russia do not give?
        What are they waiting for? When they crush the Russian people in the Donbass and in the whole of New Russia, and move to Russia?

        They are waiting for the promised three years !!!
    2. +4
      8 2014 June
      In general, it would be very nice to test the Ka-52 in combat conditions ... Only in this way will it be possible to prove in practice its absolute superiority over the AN-64. Yes, and Tornadoes would not hurt. Two generations ahead of the physically and morally obsolete Grads, the Tornadoes will greatly help the militias.
      1. +1
        8 2014 June
        Quote: Basarev
        [media = Tornado] and would not hurt.
        The "rise" of Death --- this is immediately recorded, like a nuclear strike. In short, this is an excess of the strength of the forces of a low intensity attack. And so, YES ..................
        1. +9
          8 2014 June
          It's a pity, there is no video showing how the installations go off at the "fastest pace" with firing. No less impressive than a volley%)
          1. lankrus
            +10
            8 2014 June
            Such smallness is lacking in Strelkov in Slavyansk to close the question of the existence of a misunderstanding, called Zbroynі si Ukrainy.
      2. VAF
        VAF
        +5
        8 2014 June
        Quote: Basarev
        In general, it would be very nice to test the Ka-52 in combat conditions ... Only in this way will it be possible to prove in practice its absolute superiority over the AN-64.


        Did you try to call the local doctor at home? Or are you afraid that they will be "pinched" for .. use under Article 228 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation? wassat
        1. +4
          8 2014 June
          Eprst! You can get dill on civilian aircraft at one time, but can't Iskander on Karachun? I mean, miss?))) Are there incompetent operators?)))
      3. yacht
        +7
        8 2014 June
        What a nafig "Smerch", what a "Ka-52", the militia would have modern MANPADS of the Igla-S type and ATGM of the Kornet type, and that would be happiness.
        And what a shame - even Hezbollah is armed with the Cornet, well, at least Israel cited such facts during the 2006 Lebanon war.
        1. +1
          9 2014 June
          I completely agree with you. For a long time it was possible to rivet MANPADS without serial numbers, and toss them to peasants ... Let them then look for mattresses and geyropeytsy - where from?
      4. 0
        8 2014 June
        Comparing "Grad" and "Tornado" you are trying to compare a hedgehog and a snake, they are both animals, as well as the Grad and Tornado, both MLRS. And yet ... Do the militias in Novorossiya really need irrefutable evidence of the Alligator's superiority over the Apache?
  3. Death to the Nazis
    +8
    8 2014 June
    Parasha Valtsman thinks that he is the king of all Ukraine.
    Pityun him, not the kingdom. Crimea and Novorossia are not already in its possession.
    I hope the people of the rest of the Southeast wake up and then he’s surely khan.
    1. +11
      8 2014 June
      Quote: Death to the Nazis
      I hope the people of the rest of the Southeast wake up and then he’s surely khan.


      What else needs to happen for the people of the southeast to "wake up" ??? Be under no illusion ...
      1. green
        +2
        8 2014 June
        close "Echo of Moscow"
    2. +18
      8 2014 June
      The former comrade lives in the Dnipropetrovsk region. With manic confidence, he believes that Russian special forces are fighting in Slavyansk and do not let civilians out of the city, hiding behind them. And thanks God that there is a national guard that does not allow this infection to crawl all over uropia. Do you think he will change his mind ???
      1. +6
        8 2014 June
        Quote: Death to the Nazis
        Parasha Valtsman thinks that he is the king of all Ukraine.
        Pityun him, not the kingdom.
        Perhaps it will come if the owners decide. And Strelkov senses the situation correctly, it will be more difficult for the militia every day, the States love such games, they have great experience. The Ukrainian Guard will gain experience, the National Guard will work, the principle that the more corpses the more hatred .
        Quote: EvgenSuslov
        The former comrade lives in the Dnipropetrovsk region. With manic confidence, he believes that Russian special forces are fighting in Slavyansk and do not let civilians out of the city, hiding behind them. And thanks God that there is a national guard that does not allow this infection to crawl all over uropia. Do you think he will change his mind ???
        It is unlikely that the propaganda is doing its job. Yes, and the characters who promote the media, to put it mildly, are ambiguous, if Strelkov, for example, evokes only positive emotions in me, then a character like Babai is nothing but annoyance, a clown. And he is not alone. And finally, look at picture and think.
        1. 0
          8 2014 June
          Are you out of your mind to interfere with the Donbass with Arab chiras and Khodor, on which the ice ax is crying?
      2. +4
        8 2014 June
        Quote: EvgenSuslov
        The former comrade lives in the Dnipropetrovsk region. With manic confidence, he believes that Russian special forces are fighting in Slavyansk and do not let civilians out of the city, hiding behind them. And thanks God that there is a national guard that does not allow this infection to crawl all over uropia. Do you think he will change his mind ???

        hardly ... This is not treated ...
        1. +1
          9 2014 June
          Quote: Gypsy
          hardly ... This is not treated ...

          Still how it is treated. Just as soon as the right-sectarian will pay him a visit, during which they will confiscate unnecessary valuables "to fight against the klyati mos ...", and at the same time otr @ haut in all accessible openings his daughter and / or wife and / or himself (and what? in their orientation), the worldview will immediately turn over.
    3. +3
      8 2014 June
      Death to the Nazis
      Only for nickname you can put the pros smile
    4. 77bob1973
      +7
      8 2014 June
      Yesterday the Red Estuary was cleaned up, they just gathered all the men and stupidly took away the cattle ...! And you say wake up!
  4. +17
    8 2014 June
    Quote: Death to the Nazis
    I hope the people of the rest of the Southeast wake up

    It doesn’t wake up, they look at the DPR and LPR and see that there is no real help from Russia and therefore they will continue to sleep
    1. +4
      8 2014 June
      Quote: saag
      It doesn’t wake up, they look at the DPR and LPR and see that there is no real help from Russia and therefore they will continue to sleep


      That is, Russia is obliged to bring a better life to everyone on a silver platter?
      1. +10
        8 2014 June
        Not on a silver platter, but you can help so that they are not killed so much, otherwise in the future she may just as indifferently watch as, God forbid, they will kill you, for example
        1. -1
          8 2014 June
          Quote: saag
          but it’s possible to help, so that they are not killed so much


          Troops to introduce while the arguments are not enough. So far, the bill has not gone into the thousands .... Sadly, but a fact ...
          1. +1
            8 2014 June
            and where will the arguments come from in this peak case?
            1. +1
              8 2014 June
              How to understand "peak"? What is this "peak"? Maybe a dead end?
          2. green
            +6
            8 2014 June
            for one Odessa it was necessary to take all of hohland
          3. VAF
            VAF
            +12
            8 2014 June
            Quote: Semyon Semyonich
            Troops to introduce while the arguments are not enough.


            And when were the arguments ... what was missing? And to stop the supply of gas to the Nazis in the month of January .... what was missing? And now ... what is missing in order to stop cohabitation and licking ???
            That's it ..... request
            1. +4
              8 2014 June
              Quote: vaf
              And when were the arguments ... what was missing? And to stop the supply of gas to the Nazis in the month of January .... what was missing? And now ... what is missing in order to stop cohabitation and licking ???
              That's it .....

              vaf, it’s impossible to send troops now, nobody needs a full-scale war. If the Armed Forces of Ukraine are at war with their people, then they will fight in dreams, much less. Now we need to provide assistance in armaments, reconnaissance, communications, medicines, protective equipment, transport the wounded to our hospitals and much more for the needs of the war.
            2. +3
              8 2014 June
              In January, Yanukovych was still the president, and now to introduce troops means to get a guerrilla war in Ukraine.
            3. +4
              8 2014 June
              Dear VAF ... Can you send troops to Honduras or Somalia? Will they "love" us more? An example of the attitude of the population of Crimea is evidence of this. There passed a powerful wave of rejection of Kiev's policy, people identified themselves with Russia. What do we have in Donbass, not to mention "Little Russia"? And we have a rather inert, absolutely "indifferent" population in its mass, which does not care where they will be, in Ukraine or in Russia. Like, we are a hard-working people and give we live and work in peace. And the fact that they are being made second-class people, they don’t care, or they don’t get it yet. As for the buffer ... The buffer would be more or less effective on the Dnieper watershed. What will Luhansk and Donetsk give if the NATO base can to be near Kharkov?
        2. +4
          8 2014 June
          not to be killed so much

          Excuse me, is it like - "they didn't kill that much"? This, in the sense - "not quite kill", half or what ?!
          1. +4
            8 2014 June
            You literally perceive everything, I meant to supply them with weapons, so that they can adequately resist the attackers
      2. VAF
        VAF
        +2
        8 2014 June
        Quote: Semyon Semyonich
        That is, Russia is obliged to bring a better life to everyone on a silver platter?


        And to think about the fact that the creation of New Russia is the creation of a buffer and the solution to all our problems with Crimea and Europe, how ... weak? wink
        1. +8
          8 2014 June
          Quote: vaf
          And to think about the fact that the creation of New Russia is the creation of a buffer and the solution to all our problems with Crimea and Europe, how ... weak?

          New Russia is necessary business, only in what way to create it. If stupidly captured by our army, then sooner or later, got Ukraine-2. It is necessary that New Russia has ripened in the minds of people on the ground and in the vast majority ...
    2. +5
      8 2014 June
      Quote: saag
      It doesn’t wake up, they look at the DPR and LPR and see that there is no real help from Russia and therefore they will continue to sleep

      First of all, they help not those who ask, but those who deserve it. Why in Yu.O., with a population of 30.000 people, there were about 3 thousand people in the militia. And in the multi-million dollar DNR, God forbid, 5 thousand typed?
  5. +9
    8 2014 June
    Shooters are smart people, you don’t need to learn how to fight, but you can use the experience of the Second World War, create raid groups and walk around the rear of the enemy, but it’s not a solid front line there. It seems to me that it’s like to focus on one defense of death.
  6. +11
    8 2014 June
    The "silence" of the GDP has dragged on, but people in Novorossia are already dying in the hundreds! What next, are we waiting for the Americans to "bring" democracy "to us? Porosia also announced that he "ordered" Putin to come to Kiev for negotiations on the South-East! And I would also like to know why there is no reaction to the violation of our airspace in the Rostov region. What are we waiting for when the Svidomo planes will specifically inflict blow to our territory, they will do it!
    1. rereture
      +6
      8 2014 June
      No one will send troops. Help Strelkov too.

      Because:

      1. Putin yesterday ordered increased security at the border to rule out illegal crossings.

      2. The ambassador of the Russian Federation was at the inauguration of Poroshenko, which means that the Russian Federation recognizes him as legitimate.

      3. Gazprom's gas position.

      4. The media begins a company to denigrate the rebels and Strelkov.

      So it makes no sense to talk about a "cunning plan" anymore. And so everything is clear.
      1. +3
        8 2014 June
        Quote: rereture
        4. The media begins a company to denigrate the rebels and Strelkov.


        Matvienko: Russia will call on the Donbass to lay down its arms after the withdrawal of Kiev troops.

        Matvienko: Russia will call on Donbass to lay down arms after the withdrawal of Kiev troops
        Moscow will call on Donbass militias to lay down their arms only after Kiev ceases hostilities in southeastern Ukraine. The speaker of the Federation Council Valentina Matvienko said this on TVC channel.

        According to her, the Kiev authorities should take the first step to resolving the conflict, because shelling and bombing of their own territory are "unacceptable to any civilized state."

        “Once this is done, we will certainly call for the other side to lay down their arms and enter into negotiations,” Matvienko said.
        http://topwar.ru/51016-strelkov-rasskazal-chego-zhdet-ot-prezidentstva-poroshenk
        o.html #

        Have you been abused very much in childhood, that you constantly cry?
        1. rereture
          +9
          8 2014 June
          I just stated the facts.

          Another fact, while we are sitting and waiting, the National Guard is gaining combat experience, and this is already fraught with the death of Russian military personnel.

          Have you been abused very much in childhood, that you constantly cry?


          Try not to be in an idle state of cheer-patriotism.
          1. +2
            8 2014 June
            Quote: rereture
            Try not to be in an idle state of cheer-patriotism.

            I look at us all-polymers set the tone.
            And I remember the "mummers" who came to Donbass shouting "We'll tear everyone apart!" But when they got to the positions, they immediately declare "I didn't subscribe to this ... I agree to accompany the refugees to Anthracite ...".
            PS Show me my post, sustained in the spirit of cheers-patriotism.
          2. +4
            8 2014 June
            A military professional has always gained experience in real military operations and operations. And RUSSIAN military specialists must be involved in the confrontation with dill fascism. RUSSIA help the brothers!
          3. +1
            8 2014 June
            rereture
            I just stated the facts.

            Sir, yes you just "pulled" phrases from the "swamp" forum. In order:
            1. Strengthening border protection should stop provocations and "campaigns", which will certainly be. Border guards will not meet with women, will they?
            2. The ambassador leaves the host country only in case of a state of war. There is a difference? And so - inventory, PROTOCOL.
            3. The position of Gazprom. It would be fun if Miller began to rule politics. The position is normal. In accordance with the status.
            4. Do not read Euro-Polish newspapers or learn to think (which is more difficult) by reading.

            And, in general, make yourself a rule: read what you wrote before pressing Enter. hi
      2. +3
        8 2014 June
        Quote: rereture
        And so everything is clear.

        Clearly, not everyone. Rather say units. Let's look at the further development of the situation. Although, if hail began to peck ...... I do not know what our expect ... Rating, clearly in danger ......
      3. +1
        8 2014 June
        4. The media begins a company to denigrate the rebels and Strelkov.

        Can I give at least one example?
        1. Cat
          +2
          8 2014 June
          Quote: kush62
          4. The media begins a company to denigrate the rebels and Strelkov.

          Can I give at least one example?

          let's say this: the campaign does not begin - it continues.
          Moreover, in their zeal to denigrate Strelkov, our media comrades have finally wandered =)) For example, now there is news that in Slavyansk "terrorists" are beating with might and main from NONA in residential areas - although according to the same media outlets, the valiant National Guard destroyed this NONU six times at least ... Again, the ammunition load there is clearly endless, well, or Strelkov quietly set up production of shells in the basement. And what, he will become, terrorists - they are like that, yeah ...
      4. +4
        8 2014 June
        Quote: rereture
        No one will send troops. Help Strelkov too.

        Because:

        1. Putin yesterday ordered increased security at the border to rule out illegal crossings.

        2. The ambassador of the Russian Federation was at the inauguration of Poroshenko, which means that the Russian Federation recognizes him as legitimate.

        3. Gazprom's gas position.

        4. The media begins a company to denigrate the rebels and Strelkov.

        So it makes no sense to talk about a "cunning plan" anymore. And so everything is clear.

        it won’t be right to bring in troops. But they’ll help the east. Only unofficially. And what and what kind of armament. We won’t know what the media are. Yes, and the weapons already reach there. Airplanes are not knocking out of a slingshot
  7. +1
    8 2014 June
    Quote: kartalovkolya
    So what next, are we waiting for the Americans to bring "democracy" to us?


    Well, it’s unlikely that we will be able to bring this democracy now, recently the people saw what their democracy was like, began to sort out who is who, maybe they could take power into their own hands if the leadership bowed to the west.
  8. zavesa01
    +6
    8 2014 June
    I can not define this ..... ALL profanity refers to a person, and this is not a person. Mortars, self-propelled guns, tanks, airstrikes, now RZSO. What will happen next? Maybe napalm right away?
    Nikolasha shot the peace procession and earned the nickname "bloody". This, destroying cities with their inhabitants, who?
    1. +1
      8 2014 June
      Quote: zavesa01
      Nikolasha shot the peace procession and earned the nickname "bloody". This, destroying cities with their inhabitants, who?

      He is simply the "legally (???) elected" president of dill - PARAShenko POTROSHENKOVICH "Bloody"!
    2. +1
      8 2014 June
      Yes, who, who ... Ghoul !!!
  9. +20
    8 2014 June
    The guys will not last without the help of Russia ...
    If only Lugansk and Donetsk would be better equipped, while they are not in a blockade, like Slavyansk, they are. And do not be shy about the support of the militias, all the same, Ukraine is in NATO - to be, so even if not entirely.
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  11. +8
    8 2014 June
    Of course, Russia does not need to send troops, our sworn partners are just waiting for this! And I’m sure it’s getting help (humanitarian and other) feel I do not believe that the militias could last so long against the significantly superior junta forces.
  12. +16
    8 2014 June
    I watched the "coronation" yesterday (not on Russian media). The impression is that Pedro is a "talking head" controlled by buttons from the side. Threateningly twisted limbs, boasted to return the Crimea. Will definitely not stop the punishers. And after the destruction of Novorossiya it will move the ukrofascist gangs to the Crimea. He is not in control of the situation and will not be able to control the cannibals. Only the arrows will translate so that they themselves will not be eaten (unless, of course, he remains unharmed by that moment). am
    1. 77bob1973
      +3
      8 2014 June
      I wonder what he will "move" to the Crimea, can someone tell me what army formations are there in Ukraine for this? They had two army corps and where they are now, probably "heavily" equipped with weapons and personnel laughing Let them deal with the DPR first (which is not very successful so far)
      1. +7
        8 2014 June
        Quote: 77bob1973
        I wonder what he will "move" to the Crimea, can someone tell me what army units are there in Ukraine for this? They had two army corps and where they are now, probably "heavily" equipped with weapons and personnel laughing Let them first deal with the DPR (which is not very successful yet)

        it doesn't matter. Having tasted the "taste of blood" will no longer matter.
        There are very few "Ukrofashists" and there are more conscripts among boys. The main thing here is to start and intensively lead the media to whipping up a "fair struggle" for the Crimea with the aggressor (RF).
        And here, in contrast to the SE, where you need to invent "saboteurs" and terrorists of the Russian Federation --- you don't need to invent anything.
        So I can’t say anything new - the script has been announced for a long time.
      2. rereture
        +6
        8 2014 June
        I would not be so ironic. The National Guard is now gaining real combat experience. Strelkov himself says that the situation is awful, that the balance of power is not in his favor.
  13. talnax7
    +15
    8 2014 June
    the only person in Ukraine (Strelkov) whom I trust and respect
    1. +10
      8 2014 June
      Quote: talnax7
      the only person in Ukraine (Strelkov) whom I trust and respect

      Yes, and that native Muscovite ...
  14. +2
    8 2014 June
    As for the militants in the east of Ukraine, then, according to the Belarusian leader, it is necessary to act tough. “The militants who fight against the Ukrainians need to be destroyed. But first, sort it out, otherwise you’ll shoot your own, ”said Lukashenko ...
    1. +9
      8 2014 June
      Quote: vvvvv
      As for the militants in the east of Ukraine, then, according to the Belarusian leader, it is necessary to act tough. “The militants who fight against the Ukrainians need to be destroyed. But first, sort it out, otherwise you’ll shoot your own, ”said Lukashenko ...

      Yes, strange things are happening with ethyl Lukashenko. It is not clear who he is: either a skillful troll, or another Mazepa's incarnation?
      Simply this statement can be interpreted in two ways. First, he talks about the need to destroy the militants fighting against the Ukrainians. But to begin with, he advises to figure out who is who, so as not to interrupt "their".
      So a big question arises, who does he consider to be "his own"? The junta punishers who are the murderers of Ukrainians? Or the militias?
      It’s just that recently, from Lukashenko, very contradictory statements have begun to come in, often backed up by actions that make us very much think about his loyalty to Russia.
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      2. +5
        8 2014 June
        Lukashenka spoke strangely about the new union. I do not agree with the "exemptions" under the economic union treaty. Offended by the Kyrgyz Republic and the Russian Federation.
      3. +12
        8 2014 June
        His behavior looks as if he wants to use a difficult moment to receive concessions from Russia for himself which were previously refused.
        Such behavior does not correspond to the concept of friend.
      4. +12
        8 2014 June
        Old Man undermines his authority with his last utterances! And starts acting like a prostitute! All the same, let us call all things by their proper names! And they won’t quarrel with the West and run away, and to go further together with Russia would be nice too! In short - both ours and yours! So who are you, Mr. Lukashenko ?!
      5. tokin1959
        +4
        8 2014 June
        dad Lukash since February as an adult has become - what he wants, then blurt out and no one decree to him.
        not so.
        he will not step a step without Putin.
        Putin will not directly support or talk with Porosenkin - the rating will slide to zero.
        Here Lukash also sent to say - Petya’s urine of all rebels and militias, and nothing will come of me.
        Lukash was booed yesterday in Kiev after a prayer service - people shouted at him - "Shame", "Dictator" and "Putin's lackey".
        can minus.
        but the Southeast is being pressed and soon everything will end there.
        and Putin will not help.
        and then they will take up Transnistria.
        1. boris_britva
          -4
          8 2014 June
          that's right .. Putin is pouring everything out .. it is clear to everyone. He has a "Russian world" in China. And Strelkov needs to get out of there, so as not to die nizahto
      6. rereture
        +6
        8 2014 June
        Lukashenko is a local prince who does not want to lose a bit of power.
  15. -2
    8 2014 June
    Quote: Tor Hummer
    It is not clear who he is: either a skillful troll, or another Mazepa's incarnation?

    He is a new Maidan
    1. +3
      8 2014 June
      Quote: saag
      He is a new Maidan

      I would not be surprised if at the end of his reign he organizes a staged "Maidan". As a result of which a pro-European, anti-Russian force will come to power, which will very quickly lead Belarus out of all integration processes with Russia and join the West as vassals (like Ukraine is now).
  16. +1
    8 2014 June
    Lukashenko just trolit..on he will not live without the Russian Federation even a day ... apparently he is like a constructive apposition)))
    1. 0
      8 2014 June
      Quote: Dave36
      Lukashenko just trolit..on he will not live without the Russian Federation even a day ... apparently he is like a constructive apposition)))

      So Ukraine will not live a single day without Russian preferences. However, Ukraine is a traditional Russophobic, anti-Russian state. And Belarus seems to be striving there too.
    2. +4
      8 2014 June
      Quote: Dave36
      Lukashenko is simply trolling.

      Quite right. And indeed he said well about the "bandits". Because all the newly-invented hundreds and parts are bandits! On the other hand, he emphasizes unitarity, but who does he mean? - he has something to fear. Belarus, too, got a good piece of land in its time, and if now there comes a division of Ukraine (and it will certainly be, and Lukashenka sees it), then Europe's claims to its lands may arise. It is unlikely that he is afraid of the Maidan - here everything is clear for him, but how can he then fight off Europe? So it shows "loyalty" to foreign guests ... for the time being.
      1. +4
        8 2014 June
        Belarusians, while the Old Man rules, there will be no Maidan !!!
      2. +1
        8 2014 June
        Affectionate Calf ...... Further it is known.
      3. 0
        8 2014 June
        Fidget SU Today, 08:03 ↑
        ... then there may be claims of Europe and its lands.


        And it is not always advisable to attach other lands to yourself. Catherine II joined the lands of Poland, inhabited by Poles and Jews, to Russia. So what, for the future it went to Russia? They were always a headache for her, these lands. And after more than a hundred years, this affliction turned into such a disaster, for the Russians, first of all, that my mother did not grieve! Well, we understood: towns, the Pale of Settlement, the Socialist Revolutionaries, the Beilis process, the shooting of the royal family and further down the slope. And it may well be that now the population of Russia would be 500 million, and not 150 million. And this is exactly what modern Russia so lacks in order to close all topics from albright and other thatcher about once, maybe she, Russia, can own Siberia alone or cannot and how to prevent her from being settled by the Chinese. So, far from always joining other lands is a blessing. Sometimes accession, after many decades, comes out with a very bitter burp. Who would have suggested (and most clearly understood) 150 years ago to Emperor Alexander II that Russia does not need to annex Central Asia, populated by people of a completely different civilization, but Alaska should be kept behind Russia through the highest possible efforts? And I strongly doubt that if, for example, if Poland were to join the lands of Galicia with its banderized population, it would be good for her, Poland.
  17. +2
    8 2014 June
    Quote: Hariva
    Quote: Nagan
    I wonder if Porosenko knows how to spell "war crimes"?

    With confidence, only one thing can be said - he knows how they are accomplished.

    He calls THIS a democracy! Lord, let's go to Pen Dos tan a meteorite, right to Yellowstone, but we can do something! soldier
    1. +2
      8 2014 June
      Quote: kot28.ru
      and we will somehow manage!

      Sooner or later, but will have to cope. If now this can be done on the territory of Ukraine, then perhaps later it will have to be done on the territory of the Russian Federation.
  18. 0
    8 2014 June
    Quote: chelovektapok
    I watched the "coronation" yesterday (not on Russian media). The impression is that Pedro is a "talking head" controlled by buttons from the side. Threateningly twisted limbs, boasted to return the Crimea. Will definitely not stop the punishers. And after the destruction of Novorossiya it will move the ukrofascist gangs to the Crimea. He is not in control of the situation and will not be able to control the cannibals. Only the arrows will translate so that they themselves will not be eaten (unless, of course, he remains unharmed by that moment). am

    As soon as it moves to the Crimea, it will turn out like this laughing
  19. +4
    8 2014 June
    My hut is on the edge, I don’t know anything, maybe it will carry it! This is how the majority of the population of the Southeast behaves unfortunately, everyone hopes for something, but in vain! The junta will not give up on them for one simple reason - there are huge reserves of shale gas which The Americans are going to extract it and what will happen to the region does not bother them at all. This is the prose of life. Putting NATO bases on Independent is already a secondary issue, although no less significant. It has long been clear that the Yankees are eager for resources and what will happen to the population and territory They are not touched, this is their blue dream to rule the world - I hope they will break off! And about the newly appointed preser, we can only say one thing - Scum, first-class!, he is an idealist type, which means that blood will soon flow in Ukraine !!! there was an excerpt from his conversation with one of his comrades-in-arms, where he says that we will hang the scum later, first we need to officially come to power. Guess who he meant from the first time?, but what he said about Crimea is generally didn't climb It’s not into any gate! Complete knowledge of history is not a shame for the head of state, but the expression of Alexander Nevsky "Who with a sword will come to us from the sword and die!" turns out to be ancient ukropskoe and Aleksadr Yaroslavich simply shaved it off from the nezalezhnye, cool!, although tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are! It's sad and sad that this is happening nowadays with our brotherly people!
  20. yurik
    +2
    8 2014 June
    Headquarters NOA LC: Kiev is preparing to use bacteriological weapons in the Donbas
    Illustration: thekievtimes.ua

    A few days ago a cargo arrived in Ukraine with bacteriological weapons from Georgia, manufactured under the supervision of US specialists. This information was obtained by the headquarters of the People's Liberation Army of the Lugansk People's Republic (PLA LNR) from its own sources in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    According to a REGNUM correspondent at the headquarters of the PLA LC, according to these data, a cargo with bacteriological weapons arrived in Kiev from Georgia. We are talking about some additives that are supposed to lay in food. Products with deadly fillings are planned to be sent to the territory of Luhansk region and Donbass, and they will be sold at reduced prices, stressed at headquarters.

    If in this way a mass epidemic is caused among the population of Donbass, then the region will just have a humanitarian catastrophe with a huge flow of infected refugees into Russia
  21. stranik72
    +3
    8 2014 June
    Quote: Basarev
    In general, it would be very nice to test the Ka-52 in combat conditions ... Only in this way will it be possible to prove in practice its absolute superiority over the AN-64. Yes, and Tornadoes would not hurt. Two generations ahead of the physically and morally obsolete Grads, the Tornadoes will greatly help the militias.

    Boys, when do you finally learn how to do basic things, not even think, but just stupidly read books (at worst, Wiki):
    1. Regarding the KA-52 and "its absolute superiority over the AN-64", put this fantasy out of your head now and forever, just look at the computer screen and its software and remember that we have Russian in this area, sad? It's the same with helicopters.
    2. There is a tornado in the Ukrainian army.
    3. You still have time to play enough in war games, everything goes to this, but not today and not now, about 3 years later, after the fall (surrender) of New Russia.
  22. +5
    8 2014 June
    Quote: A1L9E4K9S
    Shooters are smart people, you don’t need to learn how to fight, but you can use the experience of the Second World War, create raid groups and walk around the rear of the enemy, but it’s not a solid front line there. It seems to me that it’s like to focus on one defense of death.

    Strelkov already answered this question saying that to create a network of sabotage groups, specially trained people are needed that he does not have. You can teach the militia basic rules of combat in defense. But for subversive groups this knowledge and training is not enough. In addition, each person counts. It is bad that the main part of the southeast that everyone was counting on did not support armed resistance and did not hit the rear, at the same time spraying troops over a wide area, making them an easy victim of even small partisan groups.
    1. +4
      8 2014 June
      One defense does not win the war. or there will be sabotage groups and preemptive strikes at the rear or the war is lost.
  23. +2
    8 2014 June
    It seems to me that it is worth bringing the Russian troops into combat readiness again on the border with Ukraine.

    You cannot enter troops. Not yet.
    1. +3
      8 2014 June
      You can’t enter troops, but you can and should blow at a grouping from the air. There will be no war because of this, because stupid attack on ukraine stupidly no one. But NATO will not get revenge with weapons.
  24. +6
    8 2014 June
    A complete lack of knowledge of history is a shame for the head of state
    For its owners, this is not a shame, they even threatened to bring the 6th fleet to the coast of Belarus
  25. 0
    8 2014 June
    Poroshenko begins to prepare a place for himself on the dock of war criminals.
  26. tokin1959
    +1
    8 2014 June
    Cossacks left the Red Beam and Anthracite.
  27. 0
    8 2014 June
    it was necessary to bring down these ends immediately, pull the cat by the tail request
  28. rus1983
    0
    8 2014 June
    It’s like foreign mercenaries captured by militias, blacks and someone else ...
    1. 0
      8 2014 June
      Well, if blacks and someone else ... That is probably the Mongoloids.
  29. +4
    8 2014 June
    I get the impression that the Kremlin is not yet profitable for Novorossia to gouge the forces of the ATO in a short time. Apparently, it would be necessary if such a position war could drag on so to speak. Apparently, there is a bet that soon in the Ukrainian economy there will be a complete ass with a sharp drop in living standards, which will double the dissatisfaction of the remaining regions of the Southeast. Then it will begin. I do not believe that the FSB could not establish centralized control of the militia forces. It seems that the forces of the ATO have such a bloody situation that it’s necessary to keep the militia units scattered for a while, otherwise they will destroy Ukraine in a few days, which, as I think, is not yet included in the GDP plans.
    1. +2
      8 2014 June
      Yes, no, stupidity. It's just that Russia is not omnipotent. Do not forget that it is not the Nazis who are coming out against us, but all NATO, which has 10 times more weapons, and the total economies generally exceed 100 times. China is kind of an ally, but not the option that will sign for us in the war. Plus, in Russia, the 5th column of ideological liberalism sat down at the very top, especially among economists of all stripes. And among the same military there are a lot of sympathizers with the Maydanuts, or who still believe in the "rich free west."

      So we will not build illusions either. Russia is obliged to help on the sly. At the same time, respond to all reproaches with the highest degree of cynicism and arrogance. Well, sort of like Shoigu then about the "smart black polite cat". They say in the spirit that "the Russian Federation is not at war, but we cannot hunt for every Russian volunteer who wants to help Novorossiya."
      But even with more active assistance, the war (by the hands of Novorossiysk) will not end quickly.
      1. +6
        8 2014 June
        Quote: Magadan
        No, stupid. Just Russia is not omnipotent. We don’t forget that it’s not Ukrainians who are against us, but all of NATO, which has 10 times more weapons, and the total economies are generally 100 times superior.
        All this is slobbering. Weapons and forces would be enough to take Kiev in a matter of hours, and not one NATO face would dare to shoot in our direction. We are not Libya and Syria, we are not even Yugoslavia, nuclear power is behind us. Sanctions were boring, Vovka’s liberalism was squeezed. Putin did not cuddle, and we almost believed in him.
        1. 0
          8 2014 June
          spiriolla-45
          Sanctions were boring, Vovka’s liberalism was squeezed. Putin did not cuddle, and we almost believed in him.


          In more detail about the sanctions, and who it is WE?

          Mindless beings, aware of their inferiority, always categorical in judgments and aggressive in actions. Than and are dangerous to society.
      2. +1
        8 2014 June
        Magadan (1) US Today, 12:52 PM ↑
        and all of NATO, whose ... total economies generally outperform 100 times


        Ay Maladets! And I thought only 13 times laughing
  30. +3
    8 2014 June
    Quote: NeSvyatoy
    I get the impression that the Kremlin is not yet profitable for Novorossia to gouge the forces of the ATO in a short time.


    A strange benefit, Russia does not need a buffer zone at all or what?
  31. +9
    8 2014 June
    ALL HAPPY TRINITY DAY !!!
  32. +1
    8 2014 June
    Quote: Giant thought
    Poroshenko begins to prepare a place for himself on the dock of war criminals.

    Inauguration of Poroshenko: if a gun is dropped in the first act, it will surely shoot. a gun fell on the scene. And the point is not that the soldier sintered in the sun, but that it was not charged. It’s hard to come up with a more subtle hint from fate about which Andrei Vajra wrote so correctly (“fate is not syphilis, you won’t be protected from it”), although there are more than enough hints.

    Yanukovych had only two - the doors that suddenly slammed right in front of him in the Verkhovna Rada meeting room and the fall of a wreath in 2010 during the ceremony of laying wreaths by the presidents of Ukraine and Russia at the monument to the Unknown Soldier in Kiev.

    Poroshenko already has more.

    Let me remind you, the first thing that at Easter service, the temple in which Poroshenko was, suddenly for no reason was de-energized, although there were no storms or showers that day. Attempts to resume power supply have so far been unsuccessful. Poroshenko was forced to leave the church, and parishioners continued to serve by candlelight.

    Second, the very procedure of the "coronation" of Bloody Poroshenko was scheduled for June 7 - a memorial Saturday.

    And then the third - the gun falls and it is at that moment when the future "president" passes nearby. As they say, once is chance, two times is tendency, three is regularity. Already three. And Poroshenko just took office. And for some reason he threatened someone with a Mace. It seemed to him that of Russia. Only after all, they may misunderstand ... am in the last
  33. Fuse
    +5
    8 2014 June
    commander of the special battalion "Azov" Yaroslav Gonchar on his Facebook page:

    Terrorists are preparing Snezhnoye for a strong point. For the second day, active fortification work is underway. On the roofs of MANPADS and a sniper (the former building of the frontier post, a buffet table at Lenin and other buildings). Between checkpoints dig trenches. Around the city installed Utes machine guns and a 120mm self-propelled gun.
    Tonight, from 2 to 3, a convoy of 4 KAMAZ vehicles that entered yesterday went to Novaya Nadezhda (RF), where they took about 100 people on board. According to preliminary information, these 100-personnel military personnel of the Russian Federation !!! Accompanied by our two traitors, these 4 KAMAZs with Russian special forces arrived back in Snezhnoye. Their task is sabotage work.
    Is this still not enough to begin the defense of our border ??? What else should happen? Let's wait until the tanks arrive ???
    1. +1
      8 2014 June
      Quote: Fuse
      Is this still not enough to begin the defense of our border ??? What else should happen? Let's wait until the tanks arrive ???

      It would be better if they (tanks) really arrived.
    2. +2
      8 2014 June
      Quote: Fuse
      Tonight, from 2 to 3, a convoy of 4 KAMAZ vehicles that entered yesterday went to Novaya Nadezhda (RF), where they took about 100 people on board. According to preliminary information, these 100-personnel military personnel of the Russian Federation !!! Accompanied by our two traitors, these 4 KAMAZs with Russian special forces arrived back in Snezhnoye.

      That's all that drove into Snizhne, all this equipment has long been from the "Vostok" battalion
  34. Fuse
    +1
    8 2014 June
    The bodies of three crew members of the downed An-30 aircraft were found, two more are considered missing. ATO speaker Vladislav Seleznev announced this on his Facebook page. "Of the eight crew members shot down near Sloviansk on June 6 of the AN-30 military transport plane, three people were rescued. One of them is in a medical facility, he receives qualified medical assistance. At the moment, the bodies of three dead have been found, two more are considered missing. without a trace, their search continues, "- said in the message.
  35. +3
    8 2014 June
    Video in the topic: An interview with Igor Strelkov has become available. June 7, noon
  36. +6
    8 2014 June
    and the bourgeoisie are warying that we will begin to help New Russia
  37. 0
    8 2014 June
    And to me all thoughts do not give rest about asymmetric variants of the answer.
    What if to use Combat Motorized hang gliders? Sorry, but sometimes idiotic ideas work.
    One of these days one motor hang glider flew over us. When he turned off the engine, he planned very dashingly and far. Of course, he was not heard. If it were night, then they would not have seen. Immediately object that ukro-natsik have thermal imagers. But, excuse me: the strip in which the thermal imager will see at an altitude of 300-500 meters is not more than 200 meters wide. (Somewhere on the internet there was a calculator). You will have to watch constantly and inseparably, and in three-dimensional space. Those. plant a bunch of people in diameter around their base (s), which will be staring left-right, back-and-forth, etc.
    Further - there is a heat-reflecting foil, to-ruyu can be below the body and lay under the engine. Heat goes up, which simplifies heat reflection. But here, of course, an experiment is needed. I don’t have a motor trike or a thermal imager.
    Now imagine if it works! Dill sit below, fly over them with just one or two self-made kg bombs on 10-20-30 and drop it down. Flew another meters on 500, launched the engine and flew back. And so every night.
    1. tokin1959
      +2
      8 2014 June
      there are also bows and arrows offered to use.
      crossbows.
      you can still dig a hole, the tank will fall into it, and throw stones at the top.
      laser plane blind.

      one could laugh at it, but people are dying, modern weapons are needed, and not idiotic tips about combat hang gliders and crossbows
      1. 0
        8 2014 June
        Quote: tokin1959
        you can still dig a hole, the tank will fall into it, and throw stones at the top.

        Spears. wink It recalls how in school textbooks described the hunt of primitive people for mammoths.
  38. -2
    8 2014 June
    "We are not abandoning the Russians," but simply merging them. Putin chickened out, put the squeeze on him. All his hangers-on are now putting on a good face when playing a shitty game.
    1. +1
      8 2014 June
      Quote: spiriolla-xnumx
      "We are not abandoning the Russians," but simply merging them. Putin chickened out, put the squeeze on him. All his hangers-on are now putting on a good face when playing a shitty game.

      Russia has not yet done a tenth of what the United States did by helping the Syrian "people", that's not a fact.
      1. +1
        8 2014 June
        People's republics support. Not all at once. There is an armored personnel carrier, there is a MANPADS, somewhere a gun will be pushed through. Given the border control by militias, I think the process is going on!
        Remember Chapaev ... Where should the commander be? So is Putin, he knows what, where to tell whom. And stupidly shove forward and shout "I'll fill everyone up !!!" this is the level of Lyashko or Zhirinovsky!
  39. +4
    8 2014 June
    If Putin "merges", then he will be next to drain, or he is already purple
    1. +1
      8 2014 June
      He is not the first time, Gaddafi, he and Dimon, leaked and nothing, lives, lives.
  40. +5
    8 2014 June
    The daughters of the officers were over, the brothers of the miners appeared ... smile
  41. +1
    8 2014 June
    Quote: Fuse
    commander of the special battalion "Azov" Yaroslav Gonchar on his Facebook page:
    Tonight, from 2 to 3, a convoy of 4 KAMAZ vehicles that entered yesterday went to Novaya Nadezhda (RF), where they took about 100 people on board. According to preliminary information, these 100-personnel military personnel of the Russian Federation !!!


    Did they show him ID? Or they have tattoos "RF Armed Forces - Foreva!" on the forehead?
  42. +1
    8 2014 June
    And what else can you expect from Gauleiter Poraschenko. After all, his Abama appointed his beloved wife, now he will become in that position, which America likes.
  43. Metal bro
    -12
    8 2014 June
    You can minus me to thaw, but I think that the militia and those who inspired them are to blame. Well, a coup has taken place, but anyway, elections and the creation of a normal government are coming soon (maybe worse than yanyka?) And then look how it is and what, maybe not everything is so bad. And why grab a weapon, demand separation? Then, in fact, the government had not yet formed, but they already "we don't like it, let's go naker." Well, these are natural traitors and terrorists, they decided to split and rock the boat. You could first think, see, and then decide what to do. There is no right in this war. But the authorities, for their part, are doing the right thing.
    And now it’s only worse both.
    1. rereture
      +2
      8 2014 June
      They did not immediately decide to separate from the flank. At first there were rallies for federalizationa week or two for sure. The security forces were ordered to disperse everyone, they went over to the side of the people. A couple of provocations PS, the National Guard, a referendum for separation. That's all. People demanded one thing, they were set on them by security forces and troops. Now separated.
      1. Metal bro
        -6
        8 2014 June
        I'm talking about this federalization and I'm talking about it. They were clearly advised by our side, promised support. Actually, why the hell did they suddenly start it like this? And for what? Previously, we would have lived this way and would have continued. And they decided to turn everything over. Obviously nobody will like it. In short, they brewed it themselves, now they are crying at the "fascists". Those still have not had time to do anything officially, but these revolution.
        In our country, too, similar things are happening, Dagestan, Ingushetia, where is the anti-terrorist operation right now?
    2. 0
      8 2014 June
      Those who are democratically elected on the Maidan are to blame, Yaytsenyuhi, TURCHINOVY, etc. P. Well, what the hell was it when the country in the city wasn’t the first thing to touch the Russian language. Paroshenko in order to reconcile the southeast, it was simply necessary to dissociate himself from Bandera, he did not. It is foolish to believe that it is only in the economy.
      1. Metal bro
        -3
        8 2014 June
        Well, ban the language, do not close the gate. Most likely, nothing would have worked out, the air was shaking and paper could always be written. People will not forget the language. And now some ideological graters are already beginning, sticks are inserted from each other out of harm. Poroshenko just now given the steering wheel, and the war began a long time ago. What is he to do now? Take and forgive? In the Russian Federation, for example, this is quickly crushed. What about him?
    3. 0
      9 2014 June
      Can you mess me up

      And what kind of nonsense at the Forum ?! For some reason I thought that the comments were written by quite adequate authors! But I read such rubbish for the first time !!! Well and nonsense !!!
  44. +1
    8 2014 June
    Quote: asar
    Quote: zavesa01
    Nikolasha shot the peace procession and earned the nickname "bloody". This, destroying cities with their inhabitants, who?

    He is simply the "legally (???) elected" president of dill - PARAShenko POTROSHENKOVICH "Bloody"!

    And Yeltsin is HERO OF RUSSIA. How.
  45. +2
    8 2014 June
    You know, I myself am a sinner: like many, I have recently succumbed to a panic like "Putin has leaked Donbass !!!" and so on. But then I remembered that in late February and early March, the same sentiments were about the Crimea. Eventually.....? And this, to be honest, is a brilliant operation of our specialists. Am I wrong. A lot can be said about the courage and determination of the Crimeans. Glory and honor to them. But without GDP and our specialists there would be what is now in Donbass. The situation in Novorossiya is more complicated. Thank God, our president does not look so narrowly as we do and sees the entire chessboard, on which, among other things, the successful (for the Russian Federation) elections to the European Parliament, the growing discontent with the Americans in Europe. Also, soon the economy of Ukraine should march a northern fluffy animal, the consequences of which will be thrown into the embrace of the militia of thousands of volunteers from other regions of the SE. So I don't think we need to wear out. If we make an analogy with fishing, then we can say that it is too early to hook, you can frighten off.

    PS But you don’t know why when I write the word pendosy (well, together of course) they automatically cut it to me. If this is now a curse I apologize for banning did not need did not know.
  46. +1
    8 2014 June
    Quote: NeSvyatoy
    Thousands of volunteers from other areas of the southeast will be thrown into the arms of the militia.

    Oh well, they’ll quit right there, there will be slightly different goals, a striking example was with the shazers in which 20 percent of their salaries began to be taken away for the Maidan, they came out in protest, but as they raised them the same way they left, so don’t wait for the militia to replenish due to economic problems, the militias generally have a complete divorce, and not the requirements to raise salaries
    1. 0
      8 2014 June
      I agree, but I meant the specific w ... poo that is waiting for Ukraine. Then no one will raise anything back. That is why the GDP is waiting. Many economists predict the Arctic fox for Independent predict.
  47. Ivan 63
    0
    8 2014 June
    There is nothing to add - a person lives a real life and knows the value of Western "values".
  48. 0
    8 2014 June
    Shooters expect stobes from the parashenka to take its place near the parasha in the zone
  49. 0
    8 2014 June
    Shooters expect stobes from the parashenka to take its place near the parasha in the zone
  50. 0
    8 2014 June
    Quote: Thunderbolt
    And yes, long live our valiant escorts, the most polite escorts in the world.

    This is a well-deserved compliment to the internal troops. This they once carried out, among others, also the tasks of escorting prisoners of war and prisoners. True, since 1995. they no longer have this task, but if necessary, then there is no problem. Experience, as they say, you will not drink!
  51. Samposebe
    0
    8 2014 June
    Mikhail Delyagin: Gas contract with the devil: Russian leadership through Gazprom
    provides funding for Nazism:
    http://delyagin.ru/articles/80077-gazovyj-kontrakt-s-djiavolom.html?utm_source=d
    lvr.it & utm_medium = twitter

    PUTIN HAS MAKED A GENEROUS GIFT OF POWDER: CLOSED THE BORDER FOR TRANSITIONS ...
    http://3rm.info/47527-verh-predatelstva-putin-zakryl-granicu-dlya-perehodov.html



    Strelkova was simply cut off from officer replenishment from Russia.
    Igor Ivanovich’s appeal unfortunately confirms the hypothesis that has long appeared that the boundary for
    trained volunteers are blocked not so much from the Ukrainian as from the Russian side !!!
    http://3rm.info/47468-ob-obraschenii-igorya-strelkova-mne-ne-nuzhna-podderzhka-m
    ne-nuzhna-armiya.html


    ---------------------------



    Nazi beast in Red Estuary ...
    http://imperiya.by/news.html?id=136859

    LPR headquarters: Kiev is preparing to use bacteriological weapons in the Donbass
    http://3rm.info/47548-shtab-lnr-kiev-gotovitsya-primenit-na-donbasse-bakteriolog
    icheskoe-weapons.html

    Ukrainian punishers blocked the supply of medicines to the surrounded Slavyansk and Kramatorsk.
    http://3rm.info/47547-fashisty-oni-vo-vsem-fashisty-ukrainskie-karateli-perekryl
    i-postavki-medicamentov-v-okruzhennye-slavyansk-i-kramatorsk.html

    anna-news.info
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  52. MG42
    0
    8 2014 June
    We will be waiting for new NATO tanks, advisers and mercenaries. There will be more shells, soldiers and casualties,” commented Igor Strelkov.

    Also wait for the Kharkov Pravoseks, they have already left for the Izium district, then to Slavyansk.

    4
    June the battalion "Slobozhanshchina" received an order to redeploy to Izyum.

    The charitable foundation, which was organized by Kharkov businessmen, immediately supplied the defenders with everything they needed.

    Raincoats and tents were handed over on May 29, just before the thunderstorms, for which the military were especially grateful.

    “Kharkov-1 and Slobozhanshchina are very important special battalions for us,” says Maria Nikityuk, head of the Peace and Order Foundation. “We were somewhat taken aback by the news about the redeployment; just the other day we were planning to go to the guys for shooting and hand over help there. We pray that they all return safe and sound. I am especially glad that they managed to bring us body armor and the guys will leave for Izyum protected.

    Body armor is a particularly important aid item. Today there is a need for them in almost all parts; it is extremely difficult to get them. Volunteer groups have discovered on several occasions that the body armor provided to soldiers of certain units by government supply structures does not have protective plates or is of the wrong protection class. Therefore, this procurement item remains one of the most relevant. By the way, the cost of each body armor of the required level of protection is from 5 thousand hryvnia.
    The list of assistance also includes patches for cleaning weapons, masks and filters for gas masks, tents, and also expensive optical equipment: binoculars and rangefinders. The cost of each is several tens of thousands of hryvnia. These devices are especially necessary during special operations.


    http://kh.vgorode.ua/news/225329-kharkovskye-byznesmeny-ekypyrovaly-boitsov-bata


    lonov-kharkov-1-y-slobozhanschyna
    1. 0
      8 2014 June
      In the photo there are only show-offs, less than a company - 80-85 people, and they are called a “battalion”!
      1. MG42
        +3
        8 2014 June
        Well, the right-wing show-offs, ideologically motivated with Kalash rifles and good armored armor, will not hesitate to shoot or not because they themselves volunteered.
        As a result, Kharkov will be a little cleared of this.
        1. 0
          8 2014 June
          Mostly criminals in the right sector...very wild people. Maybe they are ideologically motivated, but I think not for long...the militia under the Slavic already has combat experience, but they do not.
          1. MG42
            0
            8 2014 June
            Quote: Koresh
            The Slavic militia already has combat experience, but they do not.

            why compare who is longer, there are no suckers in the video either, the fight will show.

            The bravado of the Kadyrovites ended sadly for them at the Donetsk airport.
            1. +2
              8 2014 June
              Well, about Kadyrovtsev, this is too much. There were probably 2-3 Chechens there. There the Ossetians confuse them with the Chechens.
              And the video is just bravado. Without combat experience, this is meat. There they will have to face volunteers from Russia who have more than one year of the Chechen campaign behind them. The Donbass battalion also showed off. you know the result. After KMB and into battle. You shouldn't count on them. Only those who will be able to survive (and there will be few of them) will eventually become veterans. The rest will perish ingloriously.
              1. MG42
                0
                9 2014 June
                Quote: NeSvyatoy
                Well, about Kadyrovtsev, this is too much. There were probably 2-3 Chechens there.

                Where did you get the data?
                Quote: NeSvyatoy
                . The Donbass battalion also showed off. you know the result.

                Why in the past tense? They are showing off even now. The video is fresh, one of them threatens to shave the Chechens’ beards at 3-22 >>
  53. +2
    8 2014 June
    this - http://www.anna-news.info/node/16897 and the order to strengthen border security look so disgusting, it’s not even a drain, but some kind of complicity
    And this could be another reason - Bulgaria will suspend work on South Stream http://lenta.ru/news/2014/06/08/south/
  54. +1
    8 2014 June
    08.06.14/15/03. XNUMX:XNUMX. Statement by member of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation Igor Morozov.

    “Russian deputies had high expectations associated with inauguration day. The first speech of the new president of Ukraine should have included a statement about ending the war in Donbass. But instead, he responded with shelling of Slavyansk, the arrest of Russian journalists and other illegal actions. After these events, speeches there can be no negotiations with the Kyiv leadership.

    It seems to me that hostilities will continue, but Russia will no longer enter into negotiations with Ukraine. And I want to wish the citizens of Donbass endurance and fortitude, they must go to the end."
  55. +3
    8 2014 June
    Let's avoid fatalism. The main thing now is to hold on to Strelkov as long as possible. In my valiant Ukrainian army, the fighting spirit is completely negative... the soldier is hungry, untrained, unmotivated (somehow he doesn’t really want to die for 300 hryvnia), and doesn’t want to fight. They are fighting in mainly private armies of oligarchs and mercenaries. This is far from the end... and the blood of the Slavs will be lost for a long time, unfortunately.
  56. igorek45
    +2
    8 2014 June
    There are not enough arguments to bring in troops yet. Until the count reached thousands.

    What other damn arguments do you need..? They are bombing schools, hospitals, kindergartens, and so on, and you still don’t have enough arguments.. Until the count goes into the thousands.. I am amazed at your cynicism.. People are being killed there, and here you are counting the numbers of those killed.. You see, he doesn’t have enough of the number of dead. Judging by what you wrote, you lack a conscience..
  57. +2
    8 2014 June
    If now Putin and co. do not support the people in their desire to help the Russians for fear of losing money,
    then next time the people will not forgive this betrayal and will not go to die for these moneybags...
    1. 0
      8 2014 June
      Damn, are the volunteers who arrive in Donbass invisible and the FSB doesn’t see them? Unless they filter it at the border so that specific meat does not get involved in the battle. And new weapons appear. The militia began to use MANPADS as if they had 10 warehouses filled to the ceiling with these MANPADS. In general, Bolotov already promises to bombard any military aircraft of the Junta with missiles over Lugansk.
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  59. +2
    8 2014 June
    Slavyansk almost right now
  60. 0
    8 2014 June
    I found it, though it’s not new, but for some reason it was never commented on on Russian TV. Anyone in the know who can comment:

    http://novorus.info/glavred/16643-administraciya-prezidenta-rf-zaregistrirovala-

    obraschenie-k-rf-o-vvode-mirotvorcheskih-sil-na-territoriyu-lnr.html

    Central News Agency of Novorossiya Novorus.info

    The Administration of the President of the Russian Federation registered an Appeal to the Russian Federation on the introduction of peacekeeping forces into the territory of the Lugansk People's Republic 30/05/2014, 13:38
  61. +1
    8 2014 June
    Theorist Ulyanov-Lenin also wrote - “defense is the death of an armed uprising.” It is unrealistic for the easterners to advance to the West without equipment and without defeating the opposing forces. I personally see only two options here - either Russia is driving serious equipment across the border for ours (tanks, fire support helicopters, the same "Shilkas", after all), or act like the Yankees in Libya - they shoot down all their aircraft and at the same time fuck up ground forces, which will then scatter, outrunning their own cowardly screeching (heroes among them no - just tricks). And then the Easterners will take Kiev and condemn the bullshit in absentia. In absentia, because they will all already be in London.
  62. +2
    8 2014 June
    Quote: antiyankes
    The theorist Ulyanov-Lenin also wrote: “defense is the death of an armed uprising.”

    Eh, what does current capitalism in the Russian Federation care about Lenin, sausage is more expensive
    1. 0
      8 2014 June
      Excuse me, Mr. four-star general, do you also really think that Putin won’t do a damn thing - no real military assistance (without an invasion), no no-fly zone with air strikes on “Svidomo” units?
  63. 0
    8 2014 June
    Well, Strelkov certainly got carried away with NATO tanks and equipment, they are unlikely to do this, because it will free our hands when it comes to sending in troops, and it will clearly show the whole world “xy from xy.”
    But the situation is clearly shitty, it’s not even clear how it will all end, but one thing is clear: these areas will never become Ukrainian, even if the junta wins. And what awaits Ukraine is the essence of an American colony, for this the Americans are pushing their puppets to completely destroy the infrastructure and they don’t need people. It is easier for a poor colony to dictate its terms.
    Most of all, it’s a pity that these are the lands of ORIGINAL Rus', and again under another yoke.....
  64. Russian woman
    0
    8 2014 June
    Good day to all!!!
    I’ve been reading your thoughts for several weeks now... I’m far from both politics and military affairs, and in order to understand something, I read your posts. I can’t remain indifferent to what’s happening
    You keep giving advice and don’t know how or how to help...
    Just help them financially, who else but us???!!!- ordinary Russian people can do this????!!!
    Here
    http://veche-info.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=998:2014-04-19

    -10-42-16&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=1
    I registered specifically to convey this information somehow.
    1. 0
      9 2014 June
      Sorry, Russian is a woman, but our pennies will not help here. There is no need for stupid hypocrisy.
  65. 0
    8 2014 June
    The Ukrainian “military” are also complete stumps. The militias do not even hide the fact that their headquarters is located in the SBU building in Slavyansk. Ukrainian "warriors" cannot hit the building!?
  66. 0
    9 2014 June
    The new Gauleiter of Ukraine (I do not write the name of the country with a capital letter, because this country essentially no longer exists...) was presented by the Maidan with a tire with the inscription “Remember!” In this regard, Gauleiter Waltzmann really must remember that there are military tribunals and ALL “rulers” of the country in these troubled times will answer for their crimes against the people of Ukraine.
    1. 0
      9 2014 June
      Friend, you are an optimist, and also a groundless one. They will sit in the dock only if they are captured by the army of the southeast (which in itself is problematic), otherwise they will live in London and shit on Ukraine like pigeons shit to monuments.
  67. +5
    9 2014 June
    Quote: Validator
    Quote: Arberes
    Long live the SOVIET COURT - the most humane court in the world!

    In fact, most likely there will be a Rostov garrison for them. Zhirik promised

    It is unlikely that any of these creatures will live to see the trial - people will tear them to pieces
  68. Evgtan
    0
    9 2014 June
    If you have a spoon dropped, then a woman will come to visit. If a knife fell, then a man. Well, if a rifle fell on the inauguration of the president, then militias will come.
  69. 0
    9 2014 June
    Can anyone say that there is power in the LPR? How to understand this, a departmental military institution does not obey the authorities elected by the people and was going to send cadets to Kharkov or Kyiv! Nonsense or power - not effective. Another consideration is that humanitarian aid is needed until it earns its own financial flow, which stems from the subordination of banks or the organization of its own bank. Leave taxes in the republic, finance the army with YOUR own money, buy weapons (at least from China, if the Russian Federation is “undecided”), medicines, food, etc. POWER must be taken for real, and not declared!

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