Why there is no military intervention of the Russian Federation?

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The political analyst Semen Uralov perfectly described the level of analytical discussions in RuNet: “It’s totally wrong to consider that against the background of the Ukrainian crisis, the mind and only Kiev colleagues turned into bloodthirsty cliques is completely wrong. There are an incredible amount of such Moscow colleagues.”
The purpose of this material is to move away from the click call and a cold analysis of the situation in Ukraine.

Why there is no military intervention of the Russian Federation?


Why there is no military intervention of the Russian Federation?

If this text were written a few days earlier, a considerable part of it would have to be devoted to explaining why to send troops to Ukraine — it would be inappropriate and just silly, even after a referendum. Fortunately, Igor Strelkov, the head of the resistance in Slavyansk, coped better with this task than I, who in his video message very clearly described the inertia of the local population of Lugansk and Donetsk in terms of real actions to protect their interests from the junta. Anticipating the arguments about participation in the referendum, I want to immediately say that the checkmark in the bulletin is certainly cool, but not much different from hipster-belolentochnyh attempts to "take down the mode" like Facebook. Because the "like" is made pen in the newsletter, the essence does not change. The referendum was necessary, but far from sufficient action.

How much is the Kremlin ready for events in Ukraine and how much is he improvising now?

I advise you to read this telegram from Wikileaks, in which you can see that the Kremlin to the Americans in 2008 clearly pointed out the scenarios that we see today: "Experts tell us about If you’re trying to decide whether to intervene; - "Experts tell us that Russia is particularly concerned that a strong division of opinion in Ukraine on the issue of joining NATO, given that the majority of ethnic Russians are opposed, can lead to a serious split, with the use of violence or, at worst, civil war In this scenario, Russia will have to choose: to interfere or not, and Russia does not want to face such a choice. "

It is logical to assume that such a development for the Kremlin was not a surprise and that now we are in an unpleasant but more or less elaborated scenario, something like the “plan E”.

In order to understand what the Kremlin will do next, we formulate goals:
- Do not allow Ukraine to join NATO.
- Prevent the establishment and stabilization of the Russophobic regime in Ukraine, which implies denazification.
- Prevent the genocide of the Russian population of the Southeast.

Ideally, the realization of all three goals is required and at the same time it is necessary not to break the Russian economy in the process of reorienting to Asia and at the same time prevent the Americans from postponing their economic end at the expense of the EU.

How can these goals be realized?

Let's look at the simplest scenario and see what vulnerable points and negative consequences it has:
So, the Russian army enters Ukraine and in a few days comes to Kiev, then captures the whole of Ukraine. "Patriots" rejoice, parade on Khreshchatyk, and so on.

It seems to have achieved all three goals, but the following problems arise:

1. In the EU, in which the European business elites are slowly squeezing their politicians on the nail and lowering the sanctions on the brakes, the Party of War unequivocally wins (it is the US Party, or rather, the Pax Americana Party). The maximum and real sanctions are cut in against the Russian Federation with a horrific effect, primarily for the European economy, which immediately falls into recession. But nothing to rejoice.

Against this background, Americans are easily pushing the signing of their version of The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership - a trade pact that turns the EU into an appendage of the American economy. Negotiations about him are going on right now and for the Americans the introduction of the Russian troops to Ukraine would be a great gift. Sanctions against the Russian Federation destroy the European business, and the removal of trade barriers with the United States finishes it. What we have at the exit: the EU, as if after the war, the USA, all in white, joyfully master the European markets in which they no longer have and will not have competitors, the Russian Federation is not in the best shape. Doesn't anyone feel that someone in this situation is a sucker, and that someone is clearly not the United States? By the way, the arguments about the fact that European politicians will not allow economic suicide to be taken into account should not be taken. European officials and not so capable, as practice shows.

2. In addition to the fact that the Kremlin will serve Washington, you need to look at what will happen to Russia itself.

• If sanctions are cut against the Russian Federation before the gas mega-contract for 30 is signed with China, then China will be able to negotiate a price from a position of strength. In fact, from a position of blackmail (which China, by the way, demonstrates, but not so clearly).

• If sanctions are cut against the Russian Federation before an oil mega-contract is signed with Iran, through which Rosneft can control another 500000 barrels of oil per day, then Iran will be able to negotiate a price from a position of strength.

• All subsequent attempts to construct something, including just the supply of the import we need right now, will be very, very expensive.

• If sanctions are cut before the signing of the treaty on the creation of the Eurasian economic space, imagine what trump card Lukashenko and Nazarbayev will receive in order to unscrew Putin’s hands in the negotiations. A little more, and Moscow, in order to create Eurasian Economic Union, will have to pay extra for its oil.

3. Russia will have to take the rise of the Ukrainian economy, denazification (where to get the right amount of denacifiers in dusty helmets? If, who has forgotten, then in dusty helmets along Okudzhava over the killed hero of the civil war, it was the commissioners who were inclined) to fight with compact groups of Ukrainian Nazis, whom will support and supply from abroad.

In sum, it is clear that in this scenario, the United States and China greatly benefit. Russia is left with only a feeling of deep moral satisfaction, economic problems and future curses from wide Ukrainians who will be unhappy with “life under occupation”.

How are the key points of our vulnerabilities:

1. Gas contract with China - May-June (May 21 is signed!)

2. The oil contract with Iran is summer (That is why the United States lifted the embargo, since Rosneft is very tight under BP and not so much under Exxon Mobil. Where will oil flow? To China).

3. Important! Elections to the European Parliament, in which Eurosceptic-allies of the Russian Federation will receive many votes. After the election, another composition of the European Commission will be assembled with which it will be much easier to work - May 25. More important! The gas contract with China was signed, the newly elected deputies will be more compliant on the South Stream.

4. Collection of all necessary documents / permits / etc. for the construction of the South Stream - May.

This is something that can be seen with the naked eye, but there are still aspects that are very important but to which it is difficult to attach a clear timetable:

1. The transition to settlements in rubles for energy. Oil and gas are not potatoes, there are long-term contracts that cannot be redone unilaterally, it takes a long time to replace them with new ones and change the current ones.

2. Switching to quotes in rubles on energy prices (for trading in rubles) on Russian sites is absolutely hellish work, if only because no one has ever really done anything like this.

3. Own payment system

4. Preparation of import substitution or establishing work with Asian suppliers (not in emergency mode)

The list can and should be continued, this is what I see, and the Kremlin has a much broader horizon.

Now we will add interesting initiatives of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which is not idle. For example, Vice-minister Karasin 6 May was in Doha and met with the entire Qatari elite. The results, in my opinion, turned out to be shocking. According to the Foreign Ministry, the Qatari emir said that he appreciates the "convincing and consistent regional policy of the Russian Federation", which is very unexpected for a country that is not just an ally of the United States, but the Exxon Mobil political branch in the Middle East and 100% opponent of the Russian Federation in Syria. But the casket opens simply and the fact is that American dreams of pouring the whole world with cheap gas are a death sentence for Qatar and its elite. Without ultrahigh gas prices, Qatar does not just lose hope of regional greatness, but becomes a corpse. Doha focuses quickly and begins to offer something interesting: “At the same time, emphasis was placed on accelerating coordination within the framework of the Gas Exporting Countries Forum (GECF)”, the next summit of which (that's a coincidence!) Will be held in Qatar. The Gas Exporting Countries Forum is an organization which includes such countries as Russia, Iran, Qatar, Venezuela, Bolivia and other exporters and which the Kremlin has been trying to turn into a gas analogue of OPEC for a long time, but without success. It is possible that now is the high point for a potential gas cartel. For the first time, the three main gas exporters: Russia, Qatar, Iran have very similar interests and may well work on one side of the barricades in order to divide and "take over the gills" of the LNG market and the pipe gas market. Such a gas cartel, even in a truncated format (only Russia, Qatar, Iran) will control at least 55% of world gas reserves and have serious opportunities to greatly influence the energy markets of the EU and Asia. Of course, such a project will have many problems, it will meet with opposition, no one guarantees that everything will work out, but it is important to see that Moscow is actively looking for opportunities to gain additional strategic advantages in the fight against the United States.

I hope it is now clear what the Kremlin is wasting the time it is trying to win in Ukraine and why this is important.

Let us return to the tasks related directly to Ukraine and we note that even the implementation of all important foreign policy projects would not help to denazify Kiev and make Russian troops or the insurgent army of Novorossia wait with bread and salt, at least in the central regions. If the army of Novorossia has problems with mobilization in Lugansk and Donetsk, then working with more zombie regions will be very, very difficult. However, it appears that on the side of the Russian Federation, Colonel Golod and the special unit Hyperok (“Hyperinflation”) will soon enter the field, which will drastically change the balance of forces.

Ukrainian economy - the end. Taking into account the failed spring sowing, destroyed crops of vegetables (freezing), lack of credits, problems with gas, a jump in prices for fuel and lubricants, we can safely say that the northern animal will come to the economy, which will be full and fluffy. Nobody will give money to the junta, and even from the IMF, which promised something about 17 billion dollars (exactly 50% of what Ukraine needs for this year), an “excuse” is built into the contract: if Kiev does not control all the regions, then Kiev does not get a cent. Hunger, cold and hyperinflation (caused by the collapse of the hryvnia) will actively work to weaken the junta and to repress the brains of broad Ukrainians. They certainly will not love Russia, but this is not necessary. It is necessary that the period of Yanukovych they remembered as a sweet, unattainable dream. The inevitable chaos and the complete collapse of social structures, coupled with the sluggish civil war, ensures that Ukraine will not be taken to NATO, for Europe will “lie on the rails,” and even in the United States, more or less moderate politicians will not take a step that obviously will not lead to the US victory, and to the country being drawn into a nuclear war.

Moreover, in the conditions of total economic collapse, miners, metallurgists and other comrades who are now firmly glued to their jobs for fear of losing them and hoping to “wait out everything in the hut on the edge” will no longer have such an opportunity. They will have to participate, in one form or another, in solving the political and economic problems of Novorossia. Most likely, you will have to participate with weapons in hand.

At the same time, the junta them. Poroshenko, driven by the European Union, will have a strong incentive to negotiate with Moscow, to make concessions, to offer compromises. In this direction, Poroshenko will be pushed by the new European Commission, which will need peace in the east and stable gas transit. In the same direction Poroshenko will push social explosions caused by Colonel Golod and saboteur Hypercom.
All these factors, in sum, open up great opportunities for the Kremlin to reformat the former Ukraine into something in the interests of the Russian Federation. It is this scenario that the States are trying to avoid and it is because of it that they have serious motives to rush in order to put the conflict into a hot phase with the use of troops and large-scale bloodshed.

If you add up the time that is needed for actions of hunger and the time needed for solving foreign policy tasks in terms of establishing work with China, Iran, getting rid of the dollar, import substitution, etc. (very approximately), you can come to the conclusion that you need 5-9 months ( that same December, which Yanukovych tried to reach an agreement) to ensure the solution of Ukrainian and other issues with the maximum advantage of Russia. For this period, it is necessary to ensure at least the preservation of Ukraine in a state of civil war (that is, support for the DPR, the LPR, but Kiev should not be taken too quickly so as not to create unnecessary problems), and ideally combine a civil war with protracted and viscous negotiations. within Ukraine, with the participation of international observers, something like the 2 + 4 format, i.e. Poroshenko, Tsarev + RF, EU, OSCE, USA.

Finishing touch. In recent months, the United States has greatly slowed down the work of its printing press, reducing the "infusion of money" (especially simplifying the wording) from 85 to 55 billions of dollars a month. Many people expect (for example) that the machine is completely turned off by the end of this year. Again that same December. This is due to the fact that the dollar, although the main international currency, but to print it endlessly - it is impossible. According to various estimates, America almost completely used the “resource of durability” of the dollar, which allowed naughty with the machine. Moreover, the collateral and inescapable effect of such tricks is to underestimate the rates on US bonds, which, on the one hand, helps Washington pay less on debts, but on the other hand, it actually stifles the entire American pension and insurance system, which are built on expectation of completely different returns from their portfolios. bonds. Roughly speaking, by the end of the year, the United States will have the choice to blow up its social system in order to print further, or to greatly reduce its appetites in order to save at least some chance of stabilization at home. Judging by the reduction in the number of dollars being thrown into the system, Washington decided that preventing an explosion at home is more important than foreign policy ambitions.

Now, putting the puzzle together finally, we get the forecast:

- America will try with all its might to exacerbate the crisis in Ukraine in order to weaken the Russian Federation and put the entire European market under itself before it has to turn off its printing press.

- The Kremlin will try to translate the crisis in Ukraine from the acute phase into the chronic - civil war plus sluggish negotiations against the background of Ukraine’s economic collapse. At the same time, the Kremlin will use the time in order to create the most comfortable conditions for moving into a phase of acute confrontation with the United States - getting rid of the dollar, working with China, Iran, Qatar, creating the Eurasian Union, etc.

- The full end of the crisis - December 2014, perhaps earlier if the US stops trying to exacerbate.

- And if it does not stop?

- Then ... war ... big war for resources, because shale "boom" turned out to be an ordinary bubble.

On this topic in detail in the article by William Engdal “Washington shale boom - bankrupt”. Original Washington's Shale Boom Going Bust
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  1. The comment was deleted.
  2. +7
    9 June 2014 06: 58
    A little below, Strelkov denied the inertia of the population. So what to believe, in the inertia of the population or the "Guarantor"?
    1. IFreedman
      +12
      9 June 2014 07: 09
      Why there is no military intervention of the Russian Federation?

      1. +9
        9 June 2014 07: 40
        The article is not at all fresh. On the site of Rusvesna was already a week ago. Most likely it was laid out here as opposed to Strelkov’s speech from a neighboring article.

        The West will crush us as much as possible, regardless of whether we deploy troops or not.

        The only question is whether we will actively defend our interests and our people or continue to play the game, the rule of which is established by the USA.

        I have been completely rejected by such articles. Everyone is trying to find an economic and political justification for the possible betrayal of the southeast. There, strangers do not perish to us!

        Well, you can not find a justification for betrayal! No money, no fear, no politics. I am not saying that after Ukraine, the United States will be closely engaged in our country and Kazakhstan.
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        2. +15
          9 June 2014 08: 14
          In 1991, only two months were not enough for the complete destruction of the US economy, but Gorbachev made a huge gift to them with the collapse of the USSR, which saved America. Then the Union would hold out for a couple of months and on a map of the Earth of such a country as the USA would not exist. Now these global parasites want to get out due to the collapse of the EU economy and the sanctions against Russia initiated by the Yankees are not directed against Russia itself, but primarily against the EU and the jackal country wants to realize this adventure by the hands of the EU itself.
        3. +10
          9 June 2014 09: 26
          I have been completely rejected by such articles. Everyone is trying to find an economic and political justification for the possible betrayal of the southeast. It is not strangers to us who die there

          Figuratively: The battalion that has left the battle needs some time to reform, replenish, and rearm. On the enemy’s path, a small unit is set up, which fetters the enemy’s action. The enemy wasn’t blundered, he pulled forces to the place of contact and waits for the main units to rush to the bridgehead held by the platoon. And the main ones quietly (but in a hurry) were reorganized, bypassed the enemy and successfully drove off. Of course, the small unit suffered heavy losses, but fulfilled its duty in relation to its fellow soldiers.
          And where is the betrayal here? Although in the ranks of this small unit, too, screamers were about the betrayal of the generals. And the commissar of the main unit threatened to shoot everyone for the fact that the platoon where his brother-in-law narrows his brother-in-law was abandoned. But the commissioner is excusable, before the war, he headed the cell of the pig farm .....
          1. 0
            9 June 2014 12: 07
            Quote: Irkutsk
            A battalion that has withdrawn from battle needs some time to reform, replenish, and rearm. On the enemy’s path, a small unit is set up, which fetters the enemy’s action. The enemy is not a booby, he pulled up forces to the place of contact and waits for the main units to rush to the bridgehead held by the platoon. And the main ones quietly (but in a hurry) were reorganized, bypassed the enemy and successfully drove off. Of course, the small unit suffered heavy losses, but fulfilled its duty in relation to its fellow soldiers.

            Your words, yes, to God’s ears, or rather Putin.
            Well, wait and see. In any case, I will return to your words after a certain historical interval.
        4. komrad.klim
          +2
          9 June 2014 09: 32
          The only question is whether we will actively defend our interests and our people or continue to play the game, the rule of which is established by the USA.

          The rules are not set by the USA; the rules are set by the Global Predictor!
        5. Roshchin
          -4
          9 June 2014 10: 46
          The article is not even very fresh in all respects. And it is written in some kind of jargon: cut in, cut down, slow down .... An ugly attempt is made to prove that oil, gas, industry, etc. are used to solve numerous problems in the payment system. it is necessary not to interfere, but to observe how fascism destroys the same people like us, but living beyond the border line. In many areas, the borders are no longer there, and people are being killed, the entire infrastructure is being destroyed. And what, from the fact that the Russian Federation does not protect Russians in the South-East, the issues within the country are better resolved? Officials began to steal less and take bribes? Rockets stopped falling, there were medications in hospitals? Or maybe the money has ceased to be exported abroad, and the "partners" are helping the development of industry? How many times the question of gas has been postponed. Like they give you the opportunity to change your mind, and in the meantime, the gas goes on, there is no money and will not be. They were waiting for Poroshenko's inauguration. They waited until they were already hitting residential areas with heavy artillery and aviation, preventing the civilian population from leaving the war zone. When the house is on fire, people need to be saved, and the property can be dealt with later. I want to repeat that saving the lives of Russian people does not contradict the establishment of order and the development of their own country for the good of everyone living in it, and not a bunch of thieves and those in power.
        6. +8
          9 June 2014 11: 10
          This article, sorry, is not the sour leftovers of Olivier from the New Year's table. The state of affairs and alignments have not lost their relevance. In the immortal film "The Dawns Here Are Quiet ..." Sergeant Major Vaskov says that everyone should remember - WAR IS NOT WHO SHOOTING ON WHOM, BUT WHO WILL THINK WHOM. Almost any news from Ukraine is mixed with opinions ranging from sane to urya-patriotic. This inconsistency is due to the fact that views on the news and problems are similar to the situation on the battlefield - a soldier defends his trench and knows his sector of fire, and a company commander has the task of defending a strong point ... etc. The full picture of the battle is seen by the senior chief, who fulfills his plan while completing the task. Now I am not quoting the provisions of the Combat Regulations to you, but I want to say that the article gives a general understanding of the current situation, gives food for thought and an understanding that we are ultimately brought post-factum as what happened. Undoubted and bold plus of the article.
        7. 0
          9 June 2014 21: 00
          Quote: obraztsov
          Well, you can not find a justification for betrayal! No money, no fear, no politics.

          Be careful with the definitions! In your opinion, it turns out that any commander who sent fighters to the attack is a traitor! Enemies are fired on and even some are killed. But the soldiers go into battle and die, for the sake of the preservation and victory of their people and homeland. It cannot be otherwise! Otherwise, the motherland and the fighters and the people will perish ...
          Yes, I feel sorry for the Lugansk and Donetsk children, but now they are at the forefront of fighting for all of great Russia, for the Russian World. All that is possible, it is necessary to help both Donetsk and Lugansk, and when the time comes to go on the big offensive, but only when we are ready for this!
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    3. +10
      9 June 2014 07: 46
      I will say more. Did everyone notice how calmly Strelkov speaks about the passivity of the population and the lack of weapons? Interesting guy! Only after each such statement is more and more enemy armor burned and air "targets" are shot down. request
    4. +10
      9 June 2014 07: 47
      Quote: tomket
      A little below, Strelkov denied the inertia of the population. So what to believe, in the inertia of the population or the "Guarantor"?


      Just Strelkov and Putin are watching each from its bell tower. Shooters are a good and honest fighter, but everything is decided not only on the battlefield. Another diplomat can do more than a full-fledged army.
      1. +6
        9 June 2014 08: 27
        Quote: mamont5
        Just Strelkov and Putin are watching each from its bell tower. Shooters are a good and honest fighter, but everything is decided not only on the battlefield. Another diplomat can do more than a full-fledged army.

        Agree! About diplomats!
        Churkin: "The introduction of UN troops into Ukraine without the consent of Kiev is unrealistic"
        Churkin, Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the UN: "Usually they ask for such consent" for the deployment of peacekeeping forces. "And now, of course, it is not obvious if Kiev intends to continue the military operation in the east question. But I hope that this attitude will change now. A scenario in which a peacekeeping contingent could be deployed in Ukraine without the permission of the Kiev authorities is completely unrealistic. "

        European Court refused to return Crimea to Ukraine

        The Kiev authorities periodically threateningly remind that they filed a lawsuit in the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) asking him to intervene in his territorial dispute with Moscow. Simply put, help return Crimea. As recently as 3 of June, Arseniy Yatsenyuk announced this within the walls of the Verkhovna Rada. “We are aware that such lawsuits do not take place in a month. But such lawsuits will have results, ”the acting assuredly promised. Prime Minister.

        He kept silent that the result is already there - the European Court has made an interim decision. Not in favor of Ukraine.

        In fact, Ukraine filed a lawsuit on 13 in March, three days before the referendum in Crimea, after which the peninsula became part of Russia. The statement is based on Article 33 of the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms - “Interstate Affairs”. The ECHR does not like this article; it is considered not legal, but political. For 60 with more than one year of the European Court's existence, during which hundreds of thousands of cases have been examined, there have been only 16 such statements.

        In its statement, Kiev requested that the so-called temporary measures be applied to Moscow (Article 39 of the Rules of the ECHR), that is, before considering the case, immediately take the Ukrainian side in its vision of the situation in Crimea. It is worth noting that states quite often try to use the authoritative Strasbourg tribune not to resolve disputes, but in order to loudly, throughout the world, voice their position. We must pay tribute to the European Court of Justice - he did not allow himself to be involved in politics and remained over the battle. In part, however, the request of Ukraine was granted - temporary measures were taken. But they are addressed not only to the defendant, but also to the plaintiff himself.

        The decision said: “Both contracting parties should refrain from taking any measures, especially military operations, which could entail violations of the rights of civilians, including a threat to their life and health, and fulfill obligations under the Convention, especially with regard to articles 2 (right to life) and 3 (prohibition of inhuman or degrading treatment). ”

        Crimea is not mentioned at all.

        This motivation is almost literally taken from the decision of the International Court of Justice of the United Nations, issued on October 15 on 2008 on the lawsuit of Georgia against Russia. The ECHR did not bother to search for new formulations, rightly believing that the legal decision of the colleagues is impeccable. In other words, the court does not want to participate in political strife - there are diplomats for this.

        Nyash, our Crimea! tongue
        1. komrad.klim
          +3
          9 June 2014 09: 47
          - You took the Crimea, only because you decided so, from a position of strength.
          - I am an intelligent person, but also an athlete. I can cattle and give a tooth. This is when the intellectual arguments will be exhausted!
        2. N.Zero
          0
          9 June 2014 10: 19
          Quote: Sid.74
          Nyash, our Crimea!

          You are yours ... tongue
          You want to make a virtual "plezir" for the Crimean prosecutor? wink
          lol
          1. +1
            9 June 2014 11: 00
            Quote: N.Zero
            You want to make a virtual "plezir" for the Crimean prosecutor? wink

            Well you give! belay What a hint!feel
            No, this is just our answer with Mishka to all Svidomo's claims to the Crimea !!! tongue
        3. +1
          10 June 2014 00: 19
          Quote: Sid.74
          Nyash, our Crimea!

          So he is from the time of Catherine the Great our ...
          And Ukraine back in the days of Alexei Mikhailovich Tishayshiy (1654) was reunited with Russia. Note it was reunited, that is, much earlier, thousands of years before that, it was part of Russia ...
      2. +1
        9 June 2014 08: 59
        Everyone in his place and there must fight!
      3. N.Zero
        +1
        9 June 2014 10: 16
        Quote: tomket
        Another diplomat can do more than a full-fledged army.

        If the diplomat is a full-fledged army and a strong economy of the country!
        The weight and strength of diplomacy are directly dependent on these factors.
        hi
      4. -1
        9 June 2014 12: 12
        Quote: mamont5
        Another diplomat can do more than a full-fledged army.

        I will believe in the power of our diplomacy if the massacre in southeastern Ukraine stops this week and the security forces withdraw troops.
    5. +4
      9 June 2014 09: 45
      Russia is left with only a sense of deep moral satisfaction, economic problems and future curses from the widespread Ukrainians who will be dissatisfied with "life under occupation."
      This is Pragmatism. Politicians in their work are not guided by morality.
      Author Alexander Zhilin convincingly proves this.
      Castro is a pragmatist, and Che Guevara is a romantic. Which of them brought more benefits to the people?
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    7. Gluxar_
      0
      10 June 2014 14: 10
      Article plus. Things are obvious and it bothers me that there are visitors to the site whose eyes are blind. They do not see anything further than Slavyansk.
  3. +5
    9 June 2014 06: 59
    Intervention is not our style! Theft based on military force and a coalition of the same thieving states - some rat-manners))), our style is an iron skating rink, a ram right up to the den of the aggressor !!!
    1. Ivan Petrovich
      -12
      9 June 2014 08: 40
      our style is to steal from our own and more. And then drive off to London
      1. +3
        9 June 2014 09: 02
        This is NOT OUR STYLE! This is a SOME style! Do not confuse. Or did it yourself too ??? smile
      2. +3
        9 June 2014 09: 18
        Quote: Ivan Petrovich
        our style is to steal from our own and more. And then drive off to London

        If you write about this, you probably are doing it yourself?
        1. Ivan Petrovich
          -1
          9 June 2014 14: 25
          Well, of course! and I advise you :)
  4. +2
    9 June 2014 07: 01
    A gas contract has been signed with China, the newly elected deputies will be more accommodating in the South Stream.


    Well, it’s like ... bro-Bulgarians as prostitutes will do their job only to those who pay more .... this is a matter of bargaining.
    1. +3
      9 June 2014 07: 39
      Only block the gas to Ukraine and Europe will be for the South Stream. Since Ukrainians will steal from Europe.
    2. +1
      9 June 2014 07: 43
      yesterday the news was that the Bulgarians suspended the construction
  5. +1
    9 June 2014 07: 01
    "America will try by all means to exacerbate the crisis in Ukraine in order to weaken the Russian Federation and put the entire European market under itself before it has to turn off its printing press" - I agree with this, but with everything else, there is a lot of pessimism ...
  6. +6
    9 June 2014 07: 03
    The Kremlin will try to transfer the crisis in Ukraine from an acute phase to a chronic one - a civil war, plus sluggish negotiations against the backdrop of Ukraine’s economic collapse.


    At the moment, this is the best option .... but help should be provided to SLAVIAN .... this is our advanced outpost (figuratively speaking) in UKRAINE.
    1. 0
      9 June 2014 08: 30
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The Kremlin will try to transfer the crisis in Ukraine from an acute phase to a chronic one - a civil war, plus sluggish negotiations against the backdrop of Ukraine’s economic collapse.


      At the moment, this is the best option .... but help should be provided to SLAVIAN .... this is our advanced outpost (figuratively speaking) in UKRAINE.

      Porosenko will negotiate only when:
      1. An army operation to "kill terrorists" will fail, and the forces involved will be destroyed.
      2. will resolve the overseas "regional committee".
      to reach 1 point, the defeat must be quick and complete, the gradual grinding of manpower and equipment of dill gives the "pig" the opportunity to call in an increasing number of reservists to his army, to cause hatred in many families towards the militia of the YUVU, as a result of which a long-term confrontation on the Donets is possible. and the technique of the sample of the 70-90s. enough in Ukraine.
  7. Death to the Nazis
    +3
    9 June 2014 07: 03
    Yes, a sad article. Money is Everything. People are Nothing. Although what's new here ...
    1. -1
      9 June 2014 07: 39
      Quote: Death to the Nazis
      Money is Everything. People - Nothing


      Once again confirms what I once wrote earlier in the comments to other articles - "people are the last thing the authorities will think about in this situation", and yes in Crimea - when they say that there was a different situation, people themselves without knowing it confirm the position of the authorities, but in Kymu on the shelf there are oil and gas provinces, which cannot be said about the Donbass, there really is shale gas, but it has already been divided
    2. Demon0n
      +2
      9 June 2014 10: 11
      Quote: Death to the Fascists
      Yes, a sad article. Money is Everything. People are Nothing. Although what's new here ...

      Would you rather save a couple of millions by donating hundreds of millions? Interesting idea.
      Read the article again. It deals with global confrontation. The loser will die out (although no one will dare to actively suppress without a serious technological advantage - a beast cornered ... other methods will be used to finally resolve the issue, they all already had the pleasure of observing and testing).
      Capital is a resource of power in the modern world. Either reconcile or squint and shout louder so as not to see or hear. Give people the opportunity to work to win.
  8. +4
    9 June 2014 07: 05
    Your words to the Almighty in the ears, and then every day of the rule of the "legitimately" elected President Poroshenko will seem like hell to him, and from the sweet rhetoric for the ears of all "maydanutyh" in the Rada on 07.06.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX he will switch to a more accommodating language. Many are waiting for this scenario. The scenario of the collapse of Nazi ideas and independence.
  9. +1
    9 June 2014 07: 06
    Sanctions, oil, gas, on the one hand, on the other hand, people of their own, must be chosen.
  10. +6
    9 June 2014 07: 07
    ... If sanctions are hacked against Russia before a gas mega-contract for 30 years with China is signed, then China will be able to negotiate a price from a position of strength. In fact, from the position of blackmail (which China, however, demonstrates, but not so explicitly) ......

    Duc already signed 2 weeks ago, the article is not fresh.
    1. 0
      9 June 2014 07: 17
      right ... read it a week ago.
    2. +1
      9 June 2014 14: 10
      The article is not fresh, but finalized, but the meaning still does not change. By the way, there will soon be negotiations with China on other gas projects, this contract is not the last.
  11. +2
    9 June 2014 07: 08
    Don't intervene! We must stop being "ashamed" of our actions, like a naughty cat!
  12. +6
    9 June 2014 07: 11
    in short, someone wants to fuck a chick, and someone else is a herd ... the game is big, serious and for a long time. so "a couple of cities" will be very, very bad ... since the stakes are higher. help at least went smoothly, otherwise I am ashamed to listen to the news ...
  13. 0
    9 June 2014 07: 11
    Or I de jave, but a similar article has already been, word-for-word. Although, all the same, some analytical articles should be fixed, as it were, in a "cap", because perceptions change over time, as well as relevance, however.
  14. ramsi
    +1
    9 June 2014 07: 13
    If at least the troops were not withdrawn from the border, and then, on such a scale of hostilities, there would not be
  15. +3
    9 June 2014 07: 13
    The best option for Russia is the people of Ukraine (not banderlogs), he overthrew the junta and took power in its own hands ....
    1. +2
      9 June 2014 08: 07
      and help help. in all. except for the introduction of troops
      1. 0
        9 June 2014 09: 05
        Quote: urii
        and help help. in all. except for the introduction of troops

        Yuri, I don’t understand one thing ... in Russia people collects humanitarian aid to the southeast. My wife at work in a clinic (Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Area) collect funds for medicines. But why did our valiant Ministry of Emergencies send dozens of tons of necessary aid to Syria, but cannot send it to the southeast? Why? request
        1. +1
          9 June 2014 14: 24
          In Syria, we worked officially at the official request of a legally elected government. It's the opposite here. So far, the situation is ambiguous. In order for the Emergencies Ministry convoys to travel to the South-East, you must first recognize it de jure, i.e., actually send troops. While this is not there, help is only smuggled. One could use Yanuk for this purpose, but for some reason this did not happen ... They probably know better all the same. I can be mistaken, even this probability is very high, but it seems that the goal in the former Ukraine (consciously with a small one) is now not to divide it into two pieces, but to freeze the situation, ideally as with Transnistria. And the worst part is people. Yes, people are dying, yes, it is OUR. I myself am a Little Russian, I have a lot of friends and relatives living there. For them, my soul also hurts, like many in Russia today. But there is one point - in a sense, and even in full, they are to blame for what is happening there now. They all allowed it. A generation of geeks cannot be made in 1 day. This did not happen all at once and not all at once. The most precious thing in this world is freedom. And their war is the price of freedom. We have already paid our price. When we talked about *** whether the Union (also everyone sat and waited), turned out to be a bare ass in a puddle, who helped us? Themselves. A whole generation, crippled and lost lives. But this is our pain and our freedom. You can’t live his life for someone. Help - yes, do for them - NO. Such is the opinion.
  16. +5
    9 June 2014 07: 14
    Finally, at least someone lucidly explained what was happening. It became clear why it was no longer possible to print green candy wrappers and why troops could not be entered ... Plus article!
  17. +2
    9 June 2014 07: 15
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Well, it’s like ... bro-Bulgarians as prostitutes will do their job only to those who pay more .... this is a matter of bargaining.


    As for the Bulgarians, they, like all Europeans - "The mice pricked and cried, but they continued to eat the cactus." Although they are more hostages of European legislation, everything is interpreted only to please the European leading countries. To the detriment of oneself and one's economy, just to bite Russia.
  18. +3
    9 June 2014 07: 16
    ++. Arranged on shelves, convincingly. hi
  19. +1
    9 June 2014 07: 19
    Stop pickling! Philosophers, damn it !!!!
    What kind of economy ?! We will be hollowed just for what we IS! And the weak at all get sick without a market!

    One thing is clear: the liberoid wing in leadership prevails over patriotic leaders!
    New Russia is merging! There are NO "tricky plans"
    It’s necessary to take to the streets. Let's glue leaflets calling to be ready to go out to demonstrations where
    we will require the introduction of a no-fly zone! We must turn to the Communist Party, the essence of time and the Liberal Democratic Party - these parties can organize legal rallies! Need crowds of people in every city!
    Then governing liberoids shut up! Patriots will be able to refer to the pressure of the people and make patriotic decisions! Putin will tell the West that he cannot go against the majority opinion!
    It is necessary to demand:
    1) No-fly zone
    2) Gas at a price similar to that of Poland (let the economy of the aggressor country bend)
    3) Humanitarian corridors up to Slavyansk under the protection of our troops!
    The rest of the Militia will finish everything themselves
    1. -2
      9 June 2014 07: 36
      Read here:
      http://www.doneckforum.com/forum94/thread34071-7.html#post1033279
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    4. +1
      9 June 2014 07: 50
      Quote: Magadan
      the bottom is obvious: the liberoid wing in the leadership prevails over patriotic leaders!

      I agree with you, but what do zasrancheskie moods begin to prevail.
    5. +1
      9 June 2014 07: 50
      Quote: Magadan
      the bottom is obvious: the liberoid wing in the leadership prevails over patriotic leaders!

      I agree with you, but what do zasrancheskie moods begin to prevail.
    6. +5
      9 June 2014 08: 09
      Quote: Magadan
      THERE ARE NO "cunning plans" Got to take to the streets. Let's glue flyers calling to be ready to go to demonstrations where we demand

      Yeah! Give Russia the same Maidan! Do we need it, dear? Hooray-patriotic slogans can be many advantages for commenting ... Something tells me that in the leadership of our country are not fools and not fool advisers around them. And they know perfectly well where and how we need to move in the situation with Ukraine. In my opinion, in recent years, our particular successes on the world stage do not give us the moral right to doubt and, moreover, to go to demonstrations in which to demand the conduct of Russia's foreign policy in a model in which it seems to us from the sofas the most correct. Foreign policy is the exclusive prerogative of the president.
    7. komrad.klim
      0
      9 June 2014 09: 59
      provocation
    8. +1
      9 June 2014 14: 14
      Yes, my friend, it’s not for nothing that your Amer’s flag is marked. Demand from your government, and we will somehow decide what to do without amer’s clues. Well, if you want to fight - Donetsk, a military registration and enlistment office, a tent nearby, they’ll take them to the militia, sort of.
  20. kronverg
    +1
    9 June 2014 07: 20
    Long-standing article
  21. -4
    9 June 2014 07: 24
    Yomayo, how long can this button accordion be fasted? He’s already a month and a half, probably.
  22. irat
    +1
    9 June 2014 07: 30
    If the people chose such a president, then they deserve it.
  23. via75
    +2
    9 June 2014 07: 32
    Quote: marder4
    "America will try by all means to exacerbate the crisis in Ukraine in order to weaken the Russian Federation and put the entire European market under itself before it has to turn off its printing press" - I agree with this, but with everything else, there is a lot of pessimism ...

    this is not pessimism; this is reality
  24. +2
    9 June 2014 07: 32
    The author’s reasoning is to God’s ears, but Strelkov and his comrades need help.
  25. Beloborodov
    0
    9 June 2014 07: 33
    ... Igor Strelkov ... clearly described the inertia of the local population of Lugansk and Donetsk ...
    The author turned the meaning of the words Strelkova. This is the time.

    Two - we are fighting for land, not for the population.
  26. KOH
    +7
    9 June 2014 07: 35
    How long is this war going on? In the region of 2 months ... maybe I’m not mistaken much. It would be foolish to say that there was no help during this time ...
    They started shooting, they answered ... they started flying, they started shooting down, now they started using Grads against cities, you think the parasite doesn’t understand that this is a crime that you have to answer for, he can’t turn the tide, that's why this is agony, there is still not much to be done, journalists are seized so that they don’t see a crime, but infa is flowing away, in Europe they will learn more about real events and not bullshit ..., Amer’s plans are bursting at the seams, they ran for it, Nuland, McCain and Co. .. and they are waiting for Putin to bring in the troops, and he’ll get pierced, and then all the crimes will be blamed on the Russian troops, there will be a support group for ukrov who will yell that the Russians have committed atrocities, killed with hail, airplanes, poor population, please enter NATO, Putin about the test tube Zra mentioned to the French reporters ...
  27. -2
    9 June 2014 07: 35
    the author with his arguments reminds me of a bear who has just woken up from hibernation. However, it’s already June, we’ve been sleeping for a long time, Uncle Misha.
    - Do not allow Ukraine to join NATO.
    - Prevent the establishment and stabilization of the Russophobic regime in Ukraine, which implies denazification.
    - Prevent the genocide of the Russian population of the Southeast.
    THE GENOCIDE IS ALREADY GOING ON!
    On the account of the contract with China - it has ALREADY been SIGNED FOR A LONG time !!!! Moreover, JAPAN now wants to conclude the same contract with Russia! Receive gas from our Sakhalin. A couple of weeks ago, the Sakhalin-3 project was launched on our island and the next largest oil and gas field was discovered and processed. Japan and China switched to settlements in yen and yuan, Russia and China switched to settlements in yuan and rubles. What is the tilt of the US printing press ????? I think that this article is just another attempt to justify Putin's passivity.
  28. Vlad Gore
    +3
    9 June 2014 07: 41
    Why is the discussion going on all the time around the intervention. Enough direct deliveries of weapons and the creation of volunteer units. good
  29. 0
    9 June 2014 07: 47
    Quote: The same Lech
    A gas contract has been signed with China, the newly elected deputies will be more accommodating in the South Stream.


    Well, it’s like ... bro-Bulgarians as prostitutes will do their job only to those who pay more .... this is a matter of bargaining.

    Not forgetting this sovereign state, the Old Man also wants wealth and a place in history.
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  31. +5
    9 June 2014 07: 48
    A fairly logical article ... It has an optimistic effect on me ... I believe in Comrade. Putin ... Russia Forward !!! New Russia - hold on !!! it remains a little patience ...
  32. tokin1959
    +1
    9 June 2014 07: 48
    The Kremlin will try to transfer the crisis in Ukraine from an acute phase to a chronic one - a civil war, plus sluggish negotiations against the backdrop of Ukraine’s economic collapse.


    with a prolonged civil war, social infrastructure will be destroyed, the economy will come to an end, people will neither eat nor drink - as it is now called - a humanitarian catastrophe.
    Elementary - who will feed the people? Where will they go to live - if housing is destroyed?
    Starvation, disease, banditry - the accompanying long wars - should the Russian population again suffer?
    An article from the category of attempts to justify the inaction and betrayal by our government of the southeast of Ukraine.
    minus article.
    GDP can end this war quickly - by severely threatening Porosenkina.
    1. 0
      9 June 2014 09: 55
      Ending this war quickly GDP can be severely threatened by states, Porosenkin does not solve anything ...
  33. +3
    9 June 2014 07: 50
    I think that this is a very good analysis of the current situation. Thinly poorly explaining the situational positions of countries. Of course it is sad to read that there is no practical way out. But we all live in hope for the best. The main thing is that Russia would not be forced to withdraw from the help and support of the DPR and LPR.
  34. dmitrij.blyuz
    +2
    9 June 2014 07: 51
    But why Russia will not introduce sanctions? Or will it hurt?
  35. -1
    9 June 2014 07: 55
    The militia asks for military help, and not the introduction of troops! Now, the question is being decided: who is who? Funds to curb the flyers and heavy armament of ukrov could turn the tide, but the Kremlin is waiting.
    Consequently, all three points set forth by the author are already being implemented. Check and checkmate to you, Mr. Putin!
  36. parus2nik
    +2
    9 June 2014 07: 56
    In the South Stream .., the prostitutional government of Bulgaria curtailed work in the South Stream .. fulfilled the request of the United States .. and the troops should not be sent .. Enough, to recognize the DPR and LPR .. or at least, I’m not afraid to blackmail this word, especially for this already has the soil .. Potroshenko, does not want to talk with the Donetsk people, stupidly offers them to give up .. And provide military and humanitarian assistance .. About the military to be silent, and about the humanitarian to shout to the whole world, and the more, the better ..
  37. -2
    9 June 2014 08: 03
    If, if ... one fool asks so many questions that a hundred clever men cannot find answers to them, why did you go blind or hid your heads in the sand like ostriches: everything that happens in the Southeast is very similar to the events that took place before June 1941, only stupid or the traitor does not see that all this is directed primarily against Russia, against the Russians. Can't you see that Porosenko's "pig-hedgehog" exactly repeats the Amerov scenario that failed in South Ossetia: to free the territory from the population and, as they say, there are no people and no problems. Are you sure that the border will stop the brutal Pravosek people and they will not get into Russia they are already in Moscow and St. Petersburg, and you will understand when these geeks start burning tires on Red Square!
  38. +1
    9 June 2014 08: 05
    It is already obvious that Moscow will not go into further confrontation, unless, of course, something beyond the ordinary happens - like random dill attacks on Russian / Crimean territories (although this is not a fact). It feels like Putin was thoroughly intimidated. The only thing that Russia can do is accept refugees. By and large, our country needs human resources, the only question is whether it wants to accept them.
    And it is not clear how Kiev is going to restore the southeast, and is it going to? On the other hand, the wishes of the recent convict Tymoshenko come true even if not to the full extent - she wanted to shoot the Russian population with atomic weapons. Kiev shoots, even if not from the atomic one, but the MLRS are also suitable.
  39. +7
    9 June 2014 08: 15
    Oh, itching to be our "PARTY OF WAR" - Today is the second publication about this. The article was recently -The brilliant Strelkov puts all points over Y. Read to all Author Egor Kholmogorov ! Now again, another. Everyone calls. They push right under the elbow. Come on guys-FORWARD and with a song. I certainly understand the horror of what is happening in these republics separated from Ukraine. But this is a serious deed - START A WAR. ... But because of Spain, Stalin did not start the war either. Then there was Poland. England and France then pushed us And the result ??? Themselves sat in a puddle .. All pushed, Come on Joseph Vissarionovich. He just held out for time. There must be responsibility for the country. And then the authors, they, what will they answer in full ??? Like bones will form ???? Sami may be, and even then I'm not sure. Therefore, I would simply remain silent. We don't know everything. Real horrors, yes, what do they seem on TV, but in life ???? I personally would not be in a hurry. Such issues are not resolved on the fly. Not yet evening. All points are not set, nails are not hammered. Personal opinion. As the saying goes, "it won't rust for me," but I don't really want to substitute Russia.
    1. dmb
      0
      9 June 2014 10: 34
      I would like to hope that you wrote sincerely, and not at the request of the "party of peace". Then, I would like to get an answer to several questions: what exactly (without going personal) do you disagree in the article of Strelkov-Kholmogorov, do you know how to "dot and hammer nails", what result are you going to get as a result of these actions for Donetsk and for Russia. If answered, it will be interesting to continue the discussion. For God's sake, there is no need to answer in the style: "Putin is smart, he knows how." I cannot agree with you about Stalin. Spain is far from our borders, but even then tanks with planes were supplied there. The time "pulled" by them did not help to avoid a terrible war. The aggressor, seeing no resistance, always becomes impudent.
    2. 0
      9 June 2014 11: 07
      Quote: Signaller
      But because of Spain, Stalin, and he did not start a war.

      I didn’t start, but I sent tanks with planes, people too, like volunteers
  40. nachprod
    +5
    9 June 2014 08: 20
    Honestly, I’ve got enough to read the dill problems being absorbed. For a week there is a screech on 2 topics throughout the forum:
    1. Miners in Donbas work and do not shoot.
    2. Vladimir Vladimirovich leaked southeast.
    Yes, in the moyma, even on the first channel (ORT), they all laid out on the shelves, what to where and how and who.
    Yes, the southeast needs help. Yes, the corridor there at the border is open. Yes, Putin will not send troops, as some star-striped licking would like.
    There is already enough hysteria that Russia is on fire, there are only enemies around, everything has disappeared.
    There is so far GDP, there is Lavrov, there is Churkin, there is an army and navy, everything else is forest.
    1. 0
      9 June 2014 11: 09
      Quote: nachprod
      There is still GDP

      And when is he not? Presidents come and go ...
  41. StepanovTDSM
    0
    9 June 2014 08: 22
    The author of the article for a very long time could not publish the article or what? Everything has already passed like spring water.
  42. Cubit
    +2
    9 June 2014 08: 26
    The soldiers carry out the order, and the talkers discuss it. If there is no order, we sit, we wait when it arrives. Why sharpen the lasses - as the Commander-in-Chief will say, it will be so, unless of course we are real soldiers, and not women of the market.
  43. 0
    9 June 2014 08: 30
    Cheap liberal chatter as an excuse for ORDINARY betrayal with the construction of far-reaching noble and wise and calculated plans and intentions, which, as usual, for some reason will not come true (we will find those to blame for this outside our borders). Putin, having started the game, must play it to the end. People believed in us - this does not happen often and this should be treasured. And we will be guilty anyway and there will be sanctions, even though we are the winners, even the traitors - we are guilty in the West by definition - read the classics - "you are guilty because I want to eat." The West needs to eat, - to eat us, not because they are bad, but because they are in such a system that otherwise they themselves will die. We will save or betray Novorossiya - one hell we will be extreme in their eyes. Only the winners pay less. Even Churchill can be remembered about the Munich Agreement: "We were faced with a choice - shame or war. We chose shame - and we got a war." Now we have exactly the same story (it repeats itself) - either war and victory, or shame and war. There will be no middle way, the West is in crisis, they want to eat ... Or rather, to eat.
  44. 0
    9 June 2014 08: 36
    But we have the experience of non-official support - from Spain to Vietnam ... they know that we know that they know.
  45. 3vs
    +2
    9 June 2014 09: 03
    As our well-known comrade Krupsky, the husband of Nadezhda Konstantinovna Krupskaya, said:
    "Any revolution is only worth something if it knows how to defend itself."
    Yes, just voting in a referendum is not enough, you need this referendum
    protect.
    I agree, the question "and what to protect" kills on the spot.
    But the Cubans were able to clean the snout of the Americans!

    Intersno, in Kharkov, an initiative group gathered to campaign for
    referendum on the establishment of the Kharkov People's Republic.
    Two hundred people stood and listened in the empty square.
    It is doubtful that this will be a success.

    By the way, something recently lousy Saxons have fussed.
    Here, in fact, Ukraine has become a colony of Americans.
    Nuland jumped on a secret visit to Odessa.
    Neither to the house of trade unions, nor for forty days in memory of the deceased odyssites
    deigned to come.

    Mackainishko rode into Bulgaria.
    Immediately, the Bulgarians went back down the South Stream.
    All these "leaders", it seems, are on the payroll of the Americans.
    One cannot speak of any independence.

    I feel, the current junta in Kiev in the 21st century will arrange another autumn in the country
    famine.
  46. +3
    9 June 2014 09: 23
    Minus article. Zadolbali - from day to day the same topic procrastinate. ADMINISTRATION propose to ban already for speculative thoughts and reposts on the topic "Why Russia does not help" and "What Russia needs to do", equating it to a flood. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the General Staff are available to resolve these issues.
  47. 0
    9 June 2014 09: 27
    Everyone in this case plays their part in the course of the play, that the Americans are our leadership, each one pursues its own interests. The same Strelkova could be used by third parties by promising some guarantees so that now they can get a bunch of negativity and indignation over not helping Russia. We will see how it develops further ...
  48. Hyperboreec
    -1
    9 June 2014 09: 55
    Honestly: The liberal position of the Russian Federation is enraging, so that everyone is satisfied.

    Nooo on the opinion of the EU and the USA. He said a word about the protection of Russian speakers so keep it. And then they took the Crimea-and the country prosrali.
  49. crownn
    0
    9 June 2014 10: 05
    Good article. Literate.
    In general, she more or less explains the situation.
    It is sad that there is no way to help the South-East of Ukraine. People die only in order for someone to move pawns on a geopolitical chessboard.

    PS. S..uka Brzezinski. He would sit in Poland and delve into the garden.
  50. 0
    9 June 2014 10: 10
    Putin leaked? All, come on, bye! The only way! Let them think in the bathhouse to whom such cries are beneficial.
  51. +4
    9 June 2014 10: 22
    Strelkov. Imagine for a moment that this is a special forces officer trained to conduct not only guerrilla warfare, but also information warfare. A predictable enemy is a dead enemy. With his comments he disorients the enemy. As an option, someone very well trained in this helps him.
    Regarding the GDP, everyone was leaked - again, think about it: in a month, 2 complex agreements of a global level were signed - a gas contract and the Eurasian Agreement. It works like hell.
    Our people are dying in the east of dill. It hurts to read this and especially to look at it. We bring in troops and save our people. Wherein:
    1. Hundreds, thousands of our boys are dying on foreign soil (it is not ours yet), in peacetime.
    2. We get the territory where there is a civil war. If the liberation of Novorossiya takes place - even more or less. The people there are pro-Russian. If it’s to Kyiv or Lvov, it’s an order of magnitude, unimaginably more difficult. All the hidden corpses of the dead Nazis and civilians will be pinned on our people. The West knows how to wage an information war. All these burials will come out in a year or two and howls about the atrocities of the invaders will begin. The war will continue and thousands of Ukrainians will go to fight with ours. As a result, tens or hundreds of times more of our guys will die than now.
    1. +1
      9 June 2014 11: 11
      Less pathos and the habit of looking for an excuse, otherwise the authorities will be able to “drain” you under a convenient sauce :-)
  52. 0
    9 June 2014 11: 34
    So, the Russian army enters Ukraine and in a few days comes to Kiev, then captures the whole of Ukraine. "Patriots" rejoice, parade on Khreshchatyk, and so on.

    The article was written by an economist, all about debit-credit. As they say, capital rules the world.
    And the military aspects are in the spirit of “let’s throw our hats.”
    A hike through the steppes of Ukraine will not be an easy walk with mass celebrations and throwing flowers under the tracks of tanks along the way of advancing “To Kyiv!”

    New article on the same topic.
    http://www.gazeta.ru/comments/column/bovt/6063733.shtml
    1. +1
      9 June 2014 13: 59
      Who told you that you need to send in troops? Urgently give Strelkov everything he needs to finally stop the bloody junta! In the end, the junta and its “right-wingers” have already given many reasons to declare a “no-fly zone”! So, all this is blah blah and the result is 0. As long as the economic interests of the Russian oligarchic ----- prevail over common sense, then nothing good is expected. But Crimea came to Russia not thanks to, but DESPITE our rulers!
  53. 0
    9 June 2014 12: 01
    Collection of all necessary documents/permits/etc. for the construction of South Stream - May.

    The South Stream was covered with a copper basin. Bulgaria has suspended the implementation of the agreement on the UP.
    And all your arguments about expediency are not worth the tears of refugees from southeastern Ukraine.
  54. +1
    9 June 2014 12: 21
    all this is good and probably correct, but dragging everything out “later, later...” also - where, the DPR and LPR also do not have endless resources, but NATO is behind the pig; The main thing is that people are dying! :(
  55. Ivan 63
    0
    9 June 2014 12: 41
    With a competent owner, a good accountant is a profitable business.
  56. +1
    9 June 2014 12: 56
    Quite recently, before the launch of the Nord Stream project, unprecedented political pressure was exerted on Russia, the “greens” were screaming, the Balts were hysterical wherever they could, etc., etc. The result is that the project was launched, transit through Ukraine was reduced. By launching South Stream, Russia will gain additional leverage over the EU. There is no pipe without politics.
    1. +1
      9 June 2014 14: 03
      And we are once again betrayed by “brothers”, it’s amazing how you can trust “eternal traitors”! But Serbia, bombed by NATO and the USA, is not only a betrayal, but also the suicide of its rulers!
  57. 0
    9 June 2014 13: 10
    Quote: mamont5
    Just Strelkov and Putin are watching each from its bell tower. Shooters are a good and honest fighter, but everything is decided not only on the battlefield. Another diplomat can do more than a full-fledged army.
    My heart broke when I read Strelkov - Kholmogorov...
    And yet, if we exclude suspicions of selfishness among the elite expressed by Kholmogorov, cool our heads, and maintain faith in the “Marshal’s” wisdom, then the fact is obvious - the Commander-in-Chief has tasks of a different scale. It is not said today that you can win the battle, but lose the battle. Slavyansk is a kind of springboard. We must hold on, taking all the fire upon ourselves, biting into the ground, losing comrades. Although the direction of the main blow in the “battle” will be in a completely different place. If only there was no betrayal at the “headquarters”... War is a cruel thing.
  58. Andrey82
    +1
    9 June 2014 14: 50
    What intervention? At least they wouldn’t supply gas for free and our Judas wouldn’t supply equipment from Crimea to the Ukrainians.
  59. 0
    9 June 2014 15: 28
    There is a good saying: If you buy horseradish, you will have to eat it. Similar to this saying. unmeasured quantity. And therefore, the independent comrades called themselves a nail, get a slap in the hat. And there is no point in moaning that everyone in the area is bothering you - as long as I can remember, anyone is to blame for all the troubles of the Ukrainians, but not themselves...
  60. +1
    9 June 2014 19: 18
    Everything is beautifully written - what if..., and not if.... Strelkov brought in the main thing. Yes, Strelkov has been asking for help from Russia for a long time and does not understand why it is not there - “WE NEED RUSSIA’S HELP LIKE AIR!”
  61. Leprechaun
    -1
    9 June 2014 19: 35
    Quote: Prometey
    It is already obvious that Moscow will not agree to further confrontation, unless, of course, something beyond the ordinary happens - like random dill attacks on Russian/Crimean territories (although this is not a fact either). It feels like Putin was thoroughly intimidated.
    Putin wasn’t scared in 2003-2004, he wasn’t scared in Syria, South Ossetia and Abkhazia, in Crimea, but here he suddenly got scared, which sounds illogical, dear Prometheus.

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