Land scandal gains momentum in Georgia

Land scandal gains momentum in GeorgiaThe action takes place on the Georgian-Turkish border. Recently it became known that part of the country’s territory was somehow ceded to Turkey. The first to know about this were the residents of the Adjarian village of Karnati. The peasants who went out to work in the field were stopped by the sudden appearance of Turkish border guards with service dogs. The border guards were shocked by their claim that they were working on Turkish soil, and the peasants were asked to leave.

The Kirnatians began to seek the truth from the authorities, but in vain. In one instance, they shrugged their shoulders, in the other they advised to turn to Tbilisi, and in the third they were almost accused of violating the state border. To top it all, one of the Georgian TV channels showed the story, having built it as if the residents of Kirnati almost provoked a border conflict with a friendly Turkish state. With the filing of this channel story in this light, spree on the local media.

What really happened in Karnati was undertaken by a low-budget TV company “Objective”. The arrival of a group of journalists and public figures in a small village caused a stir among residents. “From time immemorial, our ancestors cultivated these fields. I worked on them all my life, but now it suddenly turns out that all this time we were plowing and sowing on Turkish soil! ”, One was outraged. The other simply shook: “A hundred people saw how Turkish border guards with dogs came from the other side and told us to leave. And our authorities prove to us that this was not the case. Did Kornati have the same dream? ”

The situation of the residents of the border village is extremely unenviable. Having lost the land on which it was possible to grow primarily corn and potatoes, as well as other agricultural crops, the peasants, by strict account, lost a piece of bread. Given that there is simply no other work here - only agricultural. The situation is aggravated by the fact that the part of the fields for which the Turkish side does not seem to claim, and which at worst could be put into action, will soon be flooded - a hydroelectric power station is being built nearby and a reservoir is needed for its operation. And what a farmer without land? Yes, nothing. The prospect of the residents of Karnati appears very gloomy if the version of one of the representatives of the public, who arrived at the scene together with the staff of the Objective TV company, is confirmed.

According to this man, he knows for certain that former President Mikhail Saakashvili, shortly before his defeat in the elections for a symbolic amount of 1, lari gave way to Turkey’s kirnath fields. On this account, they say, there is even a document, a copy of which he promised to obtain and demonstrate as evidence of the anti-national policies of the previous authorities, who "squandered everything that was possible to suit their goals." What such a dubious deal could give to Mikhail Saakashvili, who donated hectares of land to a neighboring state, is not something that is difficult to understand, but also hard to guess. As well as the motives of such generosity, unless of course it took place. Representatives of the Georgian public are confident that this was indeed the case. Their logic is simple: the Turkish frontier guards didn’t go mad overnight, crossing the border and driving the Georgian peasants out of the fields - they wouldn’t dare to do that if there weren’t enough reasons. And the new Georgian authorities in the face of the “Georgian Dream” keep silent, or even try to shift the responsibility to the residents of Kirnati for one reason - they cannot resist Ankara, and, realizing that they will not be able to play the situation, they decided not to create tension .

“Georgia has no land to lose or donate. If the pain of the residents of Karnati does not become national, the country will simply fall apart, ”wrote Irma Inashvili, the head of Objective, on her Facebook page. In the same place, she said that she had talked with the head of the state border protection agency, Zurab Gamezardashvili, about the problem. Unlike many representatives of the Georgian government, who are trying to assure the public that the residents of Karnati are inflating the story, or that they almost crossed the Turkish border themselves and began to work on other people's fields, Gamezardashvili confirmed the information about the conflict, writes Irma Inashvili, but Turkish border guards with dogs crossed the border and put out peasants, did not speak.

In the expert community, the mood on the Kirnati lands is decadent: if there is an agreement on the transfer of land under the jurisdiction of Turkey (and it seems to exist, because the neighbors would not be so free-will), then returning the fields is unrealistic. However, a number of representatives of Georgian society, outraged by the incident, do not consider the situation hopeless. “It’s just to break the stubbornness of the authorities who don’t want to deal with the consequences of the adventures of their predecessors. And the situation is changing - we will force them to solve the problem of the lands of the village of Karnati. A few days ago, they pretended that they did not understand what they were talking about. Then they began to blame the peasants. And now they are gradually agreeing that the Turkish border guards have crossed the border. The trend is obvious, so we will seek further changes in their position, ”they say. According to the Caucasus Herald, an initiative group is being set up at a public level in Georgia to take care of this issue, and also to find out if a similar story can be repeated in other border areas of the country - Georgia, as is known, also borders with Azerbaijan, Armenia and Russia. And with all its neighbors, it has small controversial parts of the border, the process of delimitation and demarcation of which has been going on for more than one year and it seems that it is still far from completion.
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  1. +13
    7 June 2014 06: 05
    As a result of the targeted policy pursued by Ankara, 180 mosques and 60 madrassas have already been built in Adjara in recent years. This despite the fact that the followers of Islam are only 15 percent of autonomy. “They want to drag Georgia into the new Ottoman Empire. The outlines of this policy are already visible. There is a policy of Islamization of Georgia, and in the Sunni direction. Turks have always been invaders, ”said former MP Levan Pirveli.
    1. +21
      7 June 2014 06: 21
      The other day it became known that part of the country's territory somehow moved to Turkey.
      Bravo gentlemen Georgians!
    2. +3
      7 June 2014 06: 26
      that’s the defense of NATO, if tomorrow Georgia does not join NATO, then after tomorrow it will simply become the territory of Turkey.
      1. +18
        7 June 2014 07: 09
        Yes, the time will come when history will repeat itself and the kings of Georgia will crawl on their knees to our king "Protect your dear father! We are Christians too"
        1. +8
          7 June 2014 14: 49
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          Yes, the time will come when history will repeat itself and the kings of Georgia will crawl on their knees to our king "Protect your dear father! We are Christians too"

          And not only Georgian, and not only Christian.

          The beginning of the 2000s. Together with Erzurum University, we conducted joint geophysical surveys of the Erzurum valley and surrounding areas.

          And somehow our Turkish colleagues brought us an administrative map of Turkey. So, for reference, there was no Georgia, Armenia or Azerbaijan among the neighboring countries. Only the territories were designated as "temporarily lost by the Turkish Republic". And the border between Russia and Turkey along the Main Caucasus Range from the Black Sea (south of Adler) to the Caspian Sea.

          As we were told, these cards are used to teach children in public schools. And the names of the cities there are kind of "wonderful". Not Batumi, but Batum-Kale, not Sukhumi, but Sukhum-Kale. The city of Tbilisi has a completely different name, not even Tiflis.

          But what about Russian territories, ”we laughed. Sochi there, Azov, Crimea. - There are no questions to Russia and there will not be.

          These cards would be yes to the parliaments of sovereign Transcaucasian states. For the formation of the correct worldview. And awareness of their position in this world.

          By the way, a few days later this conversation had a continuation, after some regular mess in Dagestan. "You simply do not understand how to behave in the Caucasus. When Turkey returns there (exactly" WHEN ", not" IF "), we will restore order in two weeks."

          This, by the way, was not said by a "brave warrior", not by a local loafer over a glass of tea (they drink tea there with glasses), but by the scientific supervisor of the work from the Turkish side. One of the leaders of Erzurum University from a very respected family. As we were told, even one of the Prime Ministers of Turkey came from this family. This is me about the attitude of the Turkish establishment towards the Caucasus.

          I would generally advise people from the south of the Caucasus to spend part of their next vacation not on Antalya, but just on a trip to the north-east and east of Turkey. You will discover a lot of amazing things from your near future. For example, what will your cities be called in 25-30 years.
          1. soyuz-nik
            8 June 2014 15: 42
            It would be interesting to see what is there in the Commonwealth, but in Austria-Hungary they teach .... laughing
          2. 0
            9 June 2014 07: 38
            Quote: stoker
            And the names of the cities there are kind of "wonderful".

            So such names were during the Turkish rule. You don’t break your language, but call “foreign cities” the way they sounded under the USSR: Tallinn (not Tallinn), Alma-Ata (not Almaty), etc. Abkhazians and Ossetians call their capitals Sukhum and Tskhinvali, but our ear is more accustomed to the old, "Georgian" names of Sukhumi and Tskhinvali.
            But the Turks fought and signed peace treaties with Russia; there were no other parties to the agreements. Therefore, everything that is not Russia in the Caucasus automatically consider their temporarily lost territories.
      2. +6
        7 June 2014 07: 51
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        that’s the defense of NATO, if tomorrow Georgia does not join NATO, then after tomorrow it will simply become the territory of Turkey.

        The trick is that Turkey will not be protected in NATO, it’s not Russia to protect Georgians on the ball !!! Yes All the guys (Georgians) rejoice in the euro, happiness it is! And while Ukraine is at war with itself and breaks the remnants of equipment, on its western borders a peacekeeping contingent of Hungarians and Romanians is being formed to invade "peacekeeping", of course, into Moldova and Ukraine! will rejoice!wassat
        1. +2
          7 June 2014 10: 05
          very right, clear and reasoned
      3. +2
        7 June 2014 10: 10
        And it will enter NATO! =)) They are trying to achieve this. "If you don’t take it as a separate country, we will enter in parts!" laughing
      4. +1
        7 June 2014 14: 59
        Georgia tomorrow can only enter into an even larger bunch of guano. Or does someone think that a NATO member country will not squeeze the land from a neighbor ??? I beg you, if you are weak, then treat you like a weakling.
        1. +3
          7 June 2014 17: 17
          Georgians forgot how their Turks slaughtered, and if it weren’t for such a nation joining Russia, it might not have happened. The memory was short.
  2. +10
    7 June 2014 06: 20
    Jumping out from under the paternal wing imagining themselves to be super nations, super ethnoses, the Union kept you as nations, built, taught, treated. And now you’re just being assimilated, and you’re still very lucky if you do without genocide. I am not only about Georgia, this applies to all the former Soviet republics.
  3. +8
    7 June 2014 06: 21
    The facts are revealed about how the loyalty of neighbors in the Saakashvili regime was paid ... The former lands of Georgia are quite a normal payment for support. Of course, it is a shame for Georgians, but they have to pay for everything ...
    1. +3
      7 June 2014 06: 29
      Quote: domokl
      ... The former lands of Georgia are quite normal payment for support

      Sanya hi. There was a Georgian GEOKING nickname on the site, he argued that Adjara was not in danger. About this they wrote about a year and a half ago that it would be so. Here on the site they wrote, this is the result or the beginning of the land grab hi
      1. +6
        7 June 2014 06: 36
        Categorically hi I recently spoke with a lawyer ... from ours, Siberians. I went there in the mid-90s with my wife ... I fought. I got a bullet in my hip and came to lick a wound ... You know, the only thing I understood is that you need to cut them all .Till one ... I wanted to write, but ... And so I periodically fight in my comments and articles. I didn’t want too hard ... But, as you know, I did not consider myself a brother to Ukrainians before, but now I’ve become just an enemy , without options and discounts ...
        1. +3
          7 June 2014 07: 07
          Quote: domokl
          You know, the only thing that I realized is that you need to cut them all. Until the only one ..

          Sanya, we are already working on it, we are working laughing
          1. +2
            7 June 2014 07: 12
            laughing We also have such an enterprise ... Once it was one of the coolest in the USSR .. There are also pros lol good
      2. -1
        7 June 2014 13: 47
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Here on the site was Georgian GEOKING nickname

        why was it?
        and this information is not true)
        The border between Turkey and Georgia is very well protected (merit of the USSR)
        and there aren’t any 115 mosques) only 2-3 mosques)
        1. 0
          9 June 2014 15: 31
          And this is not true, dear ...
          Throughout Georgia, the number of souls professing Islam exceeds 500, there are more impressive data. Today, 000-200 mosques function in Georgia, mainly in the Pankisi Gorge (Kistins), and southern Georgia, places of compact residence of Azerbaijanis - Bolnisi, Marneuli and Dmanisi regions, as well as in the Adjara province, where Sunni Muslims predominate among the population .

          and more

  4. +3
    7 June 2014 06: 22
    Mishiko resigned as president leaving a big pile of shit to his people goodbye, and apparently not one.
  5. zavesa01
    7 June 2014 06: 29
    The strong always crushed the weak. Georgians have not forgotten the Turks? Once Russia saved them. Georgia has betrayed Russia. Now everything is back to square one. So, what is next? Georgia is unlikely to confront Turkey. Not military aggression as Islamization but Turkey will slowly and confidently crush Georgia under itself. History goes in a spiral.
  6. +3
    7 June 2014 06: 36
    This is just some kind of holiday!
  7. +1
    7 June 2014 06: 53
    It is interesting to observe the action of the proverb - "God is not Tishka, you cannot cheat him on the crumbs", and to watch how various figures and countries get involved in the DOE, deciding to repay the good done by Russia with evil.
  8. +3
    7 June 2014 07: 03
    What a wildness! They have there that there is no border, no border, no border guards? Or some sort of village council with the borders of the district. Well, at least something of the documents, at least from the Soviet government, is left? Before the collapse of the USSR, there was a state border with Turkey, a member of NATO. Where did it evaporate?
  9. Valentine77 64
    7 June 2014 07: 21
    Soon Ukraine, with such an adviser, will be divided into pieces (Romania, Poland, Russia, etc.) Parashka knew who to call advisers
  10. +1
    7 June 2014 07: 44
    So that's how it was necessary to pick up South Ossetia! It’s just stupid to give money to Sakashvili, not one lari, of course. fool
  11. +2
    7 June 2014 07: 47
    sabakashvili left with a roar, like Judah sold a piece of Georgia for one piece of silver, soon there will be only a phrase from Georgia, there was such a colony and the hosts divided it
  12. +2
    7 June 2014 08: 22
    Quote: Sid.74
    The other day it became known that part of the country's territory somehow moved to Turkey.
    Bravo gentlemen Georgians!

    This is in the style of the "great" leaders: we have Khrushchev - Crimea, Shevardnadze also sold fish places in the east of the country to mattress makers, Russia is big, it’s not a pity - not his own (Shevardnadze said then: “there were such times”), Saakashvili tukrkam his own, the teacher was good (Shevardnadze), the Ukrainians were going to Crimea, but Putin gave it in the face.
    If Adjara would be under the jurisdiction of Russia - feel the difference !!!
    It's only the beginning!
    1. +2
      7 June 2014 09: 00
      Nda. The Poles can’t wait until the Ukrainians grind the remnants of equipment in the southeast. Then the same fields will be fenced off.
      Let's hear more "Help Russia!"
  13. +1
    7 June 2014 09: 06
    Adjaria saake is not native. So he sold ... Cheaper than Judas ...
    It’s interesting, what did the Turks do at the moment of border crossing?
    Georgian border guards? Ties munching?
    And what could the peasants not be able to catch up with the hoes of the Turks?
    We passed the dashing "Adjarian lion" in the 90s. And on the loyalty of Russia
    the territory of the Turks climb ...
  14. +1
    7 June 2014 09: 27
    Here, Sakakashvilli gives !!! Well, well, who after that will demand the "reunification" of Georgia with Abkhazia and North Ossetia ???
  15. +1
    7 June 2014 09: 54
    A distinctive feature of the State Department henchmen is "fucking" thoughtful decisions, especially at the end of an artificial career. The lover of ties in the last month in office also handed out citizenship in all directions, and also to the Turks. Even our FSB fussed as if these new citizens would not rush to us in Chechnya.
    Now, the junta’s sub-deputies are pouring bad decrees, but these generally have one solid end to their careers. In short, professional saboteurs.
  16. +1
    7 June 2014 09: 58
    It’s interesting how much the Turks dumped Saakashvili’s dough, as the saying goes: our ranger ripened everywhere, and put himself up as such a patriot, but it turned out to be much simpler - he was a grabber.
  17. +1
    7 June 2014 10: 32
    It has been in Georgia for more than 30 years since the day the Georgian KGB came to the patronage of Mr. KGB. Shevardnadze, CIA propaganda works.

    Therefore, the people there are stupefied and either live today, or dream of "Europe."

    A border on the Turkish border is only about checkpoints. Why do we need a border with “Turkish brothers?”

    I hope that Georgia will soon enter the Russian Federation. We do not need “independence” within the framework of NATO / EU.
  18. +4
    7 June 2014 10: 37
    Georgia, like Ukraine, is sold in parts. It was not necessary for the Americans to sell themselves. They themselves chose their rulers, who should be offended now?
  19. +1
    7 June 2014 11: 18
    Mishiko is now consulting in Ukraine. Ukraine is big, there is where to turn around and what to "give in", to have fun. Citizens of various limitrophies amaze, live like in a dream, choose different stuffed animals for the most important posts, and then run around like scalded "and who did it, how did it happen, and how do we live now." How? Sleep further, you may dream how.
    1. +1
      7 June 2014 11: 45
      It’s as if we are choosing something))) We were lucky in the end that the people in Putin’s cover came and put things in order, otherwise the EBN and the young reformers would have done the wrong thing at the direction of the states, and I would have danced a twist with Obama. And we would be silent as before. There are few violent and no leaders.
  20. Bormental
    7 June 2014 11: 47
    N-yes ... the Ukrainians, according to some information, enter Europe in parts (in the sense, separately taken bodies), and the Georgians are now gathered in parts in NATO. And cho, well done Turks. In vain, in general, they (the Georgians) were taken under their wing. The Turks would have drank them with the Persians, and with an honest enemy it would be easier to agree than with Judas.
  21. +2
    7 June 2014 12: 14
    Dear forum users, a hundred (100) times I asked you do not need all the inhabitants of the former USSR under one comb of revenge.
    1. We had a regiment of physical-Georgians in my regiment (I don’t give my name, but many chiefs of physics. I know his name). He quit at 91 and left for his homeland - Georgia. He was appointed commander of the RDG and sent to Abkhazia. , deserted (according to Tbilisi), returned to Siberia, recovered in the RF Armed Forces and is now a pensioner of the RF Armed Forces. (
    2. I was born in Ivano-Frankivsk (the homeland of S. Bandera), I lived 11 for years in the city of Ordzhonikidze, Dnipropetrovsk region (Kolomoisky, Timoshenko, Turchinov) with 82 (draft in the USSR Armed Forces) SERVED on the territory of the Russian Federation-Moscow, Leningrad , North, Siberia. And who are you planning to cut? 50% OUR COUNTRY is to blame for what is happening there. In 2000, I was in Ivano-Frankivsk. My own uncle Vasyl Kozlenko accused me, an officer of the RF Armed Forces, of having his grandson he doesn’t have the opportunity to go on vacation (he was an conscript of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass) because there is no air-force regiment in part. This is at the household level. Remember who was the ambassador to Ukraine and Chernomyrdin (they don’t speak badly of the dead), Zurabov is a complete zero.
    3. I visit Crimea (classmates, friends). You look at our (Russian) vacationers and you go out (not all). Some people water their Motherland like that - it’s embarrassing to even the locals. I went with my brother-in-law to Crimea this spring. We were stopped twice traffic police officers for violations (on the road and for minor violations, but we were fined) and when we found out that two military pensioners went from Siberia to Crimea, they released them. Let's look at MYSELF first, WE ARE WELCOME IN THE GREAT COUNTRY THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.
  22. +1
    7 June 2014 12: 32
    soon too
    Ukrainian Svidomo peasants
    come out of the hangover on the fields
    Well, in the field there is already a master
    Englishman, Negro and Pole))))
  23. +2
    7 June 2014 15: 47
    Reading once again about the next "successes" of Georgian independence, about the American patriot Saakashvili, many words come from the forest, the most affectionate of which is "shit!" This is how it will end, together with their Borj and Satsivi they will enter Turkey and work there as polishers in hotels who will naturally survive! The Armenians will be smarter - they remember how sweet life was in Turkey and do not move far from Russia.
  24. +1
    7 June 2014 17: 52
    The authorities in Georgia first had some corrupt skins, and now others. In other matters, as in Ukraine. The shell and name change, but not the form.
  25. +6
    7 June 2014 19: 29
    former president Mikheil Saakashvili ... for a symbolic sum of 1 lari lost the kirnat fields to Turkey.
    He has completely torn the roof from abuse of ties
  26. Zero fact
    7 June 2014 22: 19
    Googlemaps, n.p. Kirnati (kirnati), located on the banks of the Chorokhi River, on the Batumi highway Alkhatsikhe Kirnati. The distance to the border with Turkey is 800 m. BETWEEN KIRNATI and TURKEY are located n. Maradidi, Kobaleti, Dzablaveti. The population of each of the n. 15-20 houses.

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