SWAT is equipped independently

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Fighters prefer non-standard butts, sights, body armor and boots

The special forces of the Ministry of Defense, Internal Troops and Special Forces Unit of the Special Purpose Center (TsSN) of the Ministry of Internal Affairs agreed to tell the Military Industrial Courier newspaper why the American special forces are using the American camouflage of MULTICAM colors, how effective are the domestic body armor and night vision equipment, how to choose combat equipment and weapon.

In recent years, the main characters of television reports and photographs from the North Caucasus have become fighters from various special-purpose units performing tasks to combat the terrorist underground. On video and photo chronicle it is striking that field uniforms, body armor, means of communication, etc., among the special forces, are different, so to speak, with the world. In the modern world, the segment of private production of tactical equipment and means of protection is developing very dynamically. Even such well-funded Western divisions as the American Delta, the British SEDs, and others, are buying products for their money. After all, the success of any operation depends on the uniform, equipment, and especially weapons. How are things going with the Russian security officials? What problems do you have, what would you like to change?

Armor is strong

“We use body armor 6B23. There are new 6B43, but there are very few of them, ”says an officer of the Defense Ministry-based TsN in Moscow Region. According to him, the majority of servicemen buy imported products for their money, mainly covers, which are then hemmed in order to be able to install domestic armored panels. Colleagues from internal troops in the supply stand-off body armor developed by the beginning of the 90-s “Korund” ”, but now they have started to supply modern“ Bagari ”. Just as in the Ministry of Defense, in the explosives buy foreign body armor, in particular American. True, popular and domestic "Defender" and "Redoubts".

SWAT is equipped independentlyEmployees of the TsSN MIA are protected by various products of Fort-Technologies and Armakom. All the interlocutors of the publication agreed that none of the types of body armor did not meet their requirements. What is needed is not ordinary body armor, but modular armor systems, which are a discharge vest (“unloading”) with armor panels and the ability to install the necessary pouches for the tasks to be performed. Now such systems have become an indispensable attribute of not only special forces, but also combined arms in many armies of the world.

“We would like to have a regular lightweight body armor according to the plate carrier scheme of the type of what the LBT and PIG tactical companies do. But since they are not there, many people buy their own and put on armor panels, ”says an officer in the Ministry of Defense. The same is done in the internal troops. “Americans have a good mounting system with a set of pouches called MOLLE. All quality, pouches hold securely. Something similar was done on the Bagariy, however, the quality is worse and there are only enough bags for two or three sessions. But we also have just 30 – 40 percent of such body armor, ”an officer of explosives complains.

But the officer of the SOBR, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, believes that domestic protective materials are better and protection classes for body armor are higher than those of foreign products. But he also recognizes the need for modular systems of body armor. All interlocutors of the publication are not satisfied with regular protective helmets. “Like a chamber pot on his head, he put it down. It is necessary to make a special boot for the landing, otherwise on the opening it can hook on the edge of the helmet with lines. There are no mounts for night vision devices, lanterns and similar things on ours, ”says the officer of the TsN Defense Ministry. Established ZSH-1 do not like the servicemen of the internal troops, and Altyn, Mask and Lynx-T do not like the SOBR of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

According to the general opinion, the most optimal variant of a protective helmet, which stands on supplying special purpose units around the world, was developed by the American company OpScoré.

“Very comfortable, fit well on the head, combined with glasses, headphones, oxygen mask, have a streamlined shape,” said the representative of the Ministry of Defense. He is supported by colleagues from the Ministry of Internal Affairs and internal troops. “ZSH-1 is the last century. We buy for our own money “ShBM” from Omnitek-M, similar to “Opskorovsky”. Under it you can easily put on headphones. It is easy to fit, lightweight. Under the ZSH-1, you must wear a special cap, and if in the summer, a bandanna, but under the CMB is not necessary, ”says an officer of the internal troops. At the same time, the SOBR of the Ministry of Internal Affairs uses a product of the Russian company Armak, which is similar to the American OpScore helmet. “Now we are working with the company to customize their products to our requirements. But this is a long process, not less than a year, ”explains the Interior Ministry official.

"Kalashnikov" with a foreign butt

“We mainly use AK74M. There used to be a lot of AKMSL, but now they are almost all worn out and written off. There are several AK103, but the current 5,45 cartridges (PP, BS, etc.) have reduced the advantage of the 7,62 caliber to zero. And the accuracy of small-caliber machine guns is higher, the ammunition with an equal weight is greater, ”says the officer of the TsSN Ministry of Defense. According to his colleagues from the internal troops, in addition to AK74M, there were AK-104 in the TsSN: “Now they were taken from us, but we liked them. They are shorter, more convenient to manipulate, throw them on their backs, etc. And we are happy with the firing range. ” There are in service with special forces and submachine guns. According to the officer of SOBR, his squad chose CP-2M "Heather". It is lighter, more mobile, and the cartridge is more powerful than that of the proposed Vityaz. But in the internal troops and the Ministry of Defense "Vereski" did not take root.

“We immediately handed over our CP-2M - for them, explosives did not buy cartridges. We use PP-2000. “Shieldmen” work with them (military personnel marching with bullet-proof shields. - Auth. Note). The submachine gun "Vityaz" was also available, but was not used in combat. There were technical problems with the constant mounting of cartridges. And there is no such task, where the “Vityaz” is better than Kalashnikov, ”says the officer of the explosives. In the CPS, the Ministry of Defense CP-2M is used as a second sniper weapon.

But the biggest headache and a source of fixed costs is the standard Kalashnikov assault rifles, which are being developed at their own expense. “We put adjustable butt stock. This is usually the American "Magpul" or Israeli products. We put purchased DTK (muzzle brake-compensator. - Approx. Aut.), Reduce the toss of weapons, and some models reduce the flash shot, which is very important when working with the NVD. Adapters with Picatinny rail. A fuse box with an additional pedal for easy switching between the middle and / or index finger, ”the special forces officer of the Ministry of Defense lists purchases. The same is done by the military personnel of TsSN VV and SOBR personnel.

“A gentleman's set on each machine is a front handle, a collimator sight, and an adjustable butt. If the employee is comfortable, he also adds a pistol grip. We put the Picatinny and Weaver adapter plates. The “Inkwell” (muzzle brake compensator. - Comm. Ed.) Is very necessary, indispensable for night work, ”the special forces officer of the internal troops said.

According to him, of the numerous collimator sights, now offered on the small arms market, the center opted for products from American firms Eotech and Aimpoint.

“We put Eotech on automatic machines, and Aimpoint - on machine guns. Russian and Belarusian sights do not like. The collimator is good with a three-fold enlarger, but this is too expensive, so not everyone has it, ”says the officer of the internal troops. In his opinion, the collimator sight should be protected as the pupil of the eye: “In Russia there are no licensed workshops of these firms, and it’s almost impossible to repair them yourself, especially if the matrix is ​​broken.”

A SOBR officer of the Ministry of Internal Affairs explained to the military-industrial complex publication that, in addition to imported parts, its divisions also purchase domestic production facilities of the Zenit company: I’d like TriJicon ACOG sights, but they are too expensive, so we opted for Aimpoint products. ”

Over the past four years, the ACU (Army Combat Uniform) field uniform, adopted in 2008 for supply by the Pentagon and different from the traditional field uniform with a short jacket with a stand-up collar and slant chest pockets, has become popular among Russian special forces. Also commonly used American camouflage coloring "cartoons", jokingly called in Russia "cartoon".

“ACU is more convenient, only pockets are needed with buttons. These are high-quality products from good materials, although, of course, there are exceptions. Coloring "cartoons" is well suited for regions where you have to work. And another moment - when working together with “fesniki” (fighters of the special forces of the FSB. - Approx. Aut.), Specialists from the Ministry of Internal Affairs and others. It turns out that everyone is dressed in one uniform and there are no problems with identifying each other, ”says the officer of the Center special purpose of the Ministry of Defense.

According to his colleagues from VV, these troops are now abandoning the “cartoons” colors in favor of Surpat (SURPAT), developed by the Russian company Survival Corps. "Cartoon" is worse in the forest, so the officers take it for everyday wear, sometimes they put on classes. It happens, we use a regular camouflage field uniform of internal troops. But the “surpat” in the ACU style is very convenient, especially the sewn knee pads. They do not overtighten the leg, do not disrupt the blood supply, ”says the special forces officer.

A SOBR officer of the Ministry of Internal Affairs told the Military Industrial Courier that in his unit they also prefer the field ACU, which they purchase from British and American manufacturers: “We take the original form of the CRYE company. Our employees buy what they are comfortable to wear. We receive something from the field uniform regularly, but we buy most of it with our own funds. ” According to him, the use of the "cartoons" coloring allows you to quickly identify the friendly units involved in the operation. Although this coloring is not optimal for the North Caucasus.

According to all interlocutors, a big problem is uniforms, which cannot be worn. And again you have to buy on your own, giving preference to foreign products, and not only for military purposes: sports shoes are also in demand. Recently, the special forces of the explosives and the Ministry of Internal Affairs more and more like the boots of the domestic company "Faraday". “It is impossible to walk in uniform pieces of wood, it’s also dangerous for life. Now Faraday shoes have appeared no worse than imported ones, but at times cheaper. That would be her supply and they gave us a regular supply, ”the officer of the internal troops modestly dreams.

Communication and night vision devices

Night vision devices are a headache for Russian special forces. On the question of whether you consider the Russian devices adequate to the tasks set, the officer from the Special Purpose Center of the Ministry of Defense answered concisely: “Are you kidding?”

According to the officer of the internal troops, his colleagues prefer to buy imported items, sometimes Belarusian “Filins”. “For snipers there are good regular Russian“ night lights ”DS-4 and DS-6. But they are few in our center. Now purchased the Russian "Shahin". We immediately said that they do not suit us. The same "Cyclone" (manufacturer - NPO "Cyclone") is much better, more reliable and easier. But the Intelligence Directorate of the Air Force considered that such people would get away with us, ”the special forces member of the internal troops were indignant.

Also, all the interlocutors admitted that their units acquire, at their own expense, active headphones with integrated communications, which amplify weak sounds and dampen strong ones. Prefer headphones company Peltor.

“They are not needed everywhere, but only for a task, otherwise the hearing sets very quickly. For fun, try to go in active headphones along a mountain stream or through a forest with a strong wind. But indoors or in training on fire they are good, ”- explains the officer of the Ministry of Defense.

His colleague from the internal troops believes that for action in the forest, active headphones are necessary: ​​“There they amplify the sound and you can hear the enemy in advance. Although I personally prefer the usual headset. "

Continuing counter-terrorism actions in the North Caucasus require the continued participation of military personnel and special forces units of all security agencies. If at the beginning of 90-s the quality and quantity of equipment was determined by the capabilities of the department, now even for elite special purpose centers it all depends on the thickness of the wallets of the servicemen themselves. It can be argued that foreign specialists spend their money, because everyone chooses what is more convenient to fight. But one thing - shoes and field uniforms, and when it comes to body armor, helmets, communications, "body kit" on the weapon, there is already worth thinking about. The international market for weapons and equipment in the last 10 – 12 years is at the peak of activity. With rare exceptions, Russian companies do not participate there, although the military and law enforcement officers have gained sufficient combat experience, which can be implemented in new families of body armor, communication equipment, active headphones, etc. At the same time, the latest AEK-971 and AK-12 assault rifles presented for testing without full collimator sights of domestic production. Although the same Belarus is actively producing these products. It remains to be regretted that foreign special forces are supplied by the departments, and the Russian by their families, donating money from the family budget.
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  1. +2
    4 June 2014 08: 48
    "You will want to live and you will not be so hot" (C) "Features of the national hunting"
    1. +6
      4 June 2014 13: 21
      Alpha, special forces of the FSB, VV and the Ministry of Internal Affairs are not army special forces, they are not intended for operations in a combined-arms operation or in conditions of large-scale military operations, for this there are army special forces, the task of special forces of the FSB, VV, Ministry of Internal Affairs is actions within the framework of operations of the FSB, VV, Ministry of Internal Affairs, the protection of important objects, persons, ensuring the security of important events, the assault in advance of known and blocked objects, the release of hostages, the liquidation or capture of gangs and their leaders. Mainly in the conditions of a prepared assault or data on the position and location of the object. They even have a nickname in the army, SUVs.
      1. +8
        4 June 2014 17: 37
        Mainly in conditions
        Yeah, 90 square kilometers of mountainous-wooded area, you are only 12, it is not known where and whom you will stumble on, how many there will be, what they are armed with and walk on their land ...
        The special forces of the sun are sitting in the trenches like infantry and mowing the enemy in packs, just to improvise, do you think ???
        1. +3
          4 June 2014 18: 56
          Teach the materiel, army intelligence and GRU special forces work in the mountains, they then drive the game into the ring for an assault, tell you how Alpha wanted to fight in the first Chechen? We arrived in Grozny, looked at the scale of hostilities from the bus and drove back to the capital, so that everyone, as expected, should go about his business, some to fight, others to storm.
      2. Majordok
        +2
        5 June 2014 08: 18
        SOBR- "SUVs" ??? We climbed several hundred kilometers along the mountain-wooded unforgettable TFR !!!
        1. +1
          5 June 2014 12: 21
          That's what I said about this, that everyone should fulfill their function, in general, the SOBR does not and should not have such functions, although they were used in the first echelons in the Chechen campaigns (about the expediency and success of such functions, there are a lot of questions) and it was there that they had the biggest losses, so you can not throw SOBR, which has the main function of combating organized crime in the city, on the functions of army intelligence and anti-sabotage units.
  2. +21
    4 June 2014 09: 06
    This article is necessary for the Minister of Defense to read ... it would be very useful ... but for now industry (and it works on order) does not hear and does not see what is needed.
    1. +4
      4 June 2014 13: 21
      General army equipment is not optimal for special operations. As a way to allow the purchase of equipment of personal choice, offsetting the costs
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  3. +16
    4 June 2014 09: 08
    The first thing that caught my eye. there was a vision of a certain interest of managers in certain suppliers.
    It affects the procurement system when not buying goods at a low price, and not who does not need cheap stuff ... and the money spent is not small and the fact that no one bought is needed.
    On fine-tuning ... my opinion .. there are conditionally the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, they have developed requirements for armament and equipment ... their own specific ones from experience.
    Empty each department will collect and analyze ... what is needed, in what quantity ... then the scope of the question will be clear.
    They gathered an interagency commission ... decomposed compared, where it coincides, and where the differences are fundamental.
    Make a reasonable centralized order for a specific supplier.
    All the laws on the purchase, these are the laws for the barbarians and corrupt officials ... how to buy frank and specific g * but at a fantastic price.
    The most important thing that was mentioned in the article ... our industry can do it, this is the most important ... but there is another question whether the producer can maintain the proper quality with the growth in the volume of production ... if the toad and the desire to grab more will crush him.
  4. +9
    4 June 2014 09: 20
    And so it will be until the domestic defense industry begins to adapt to the needs of the fighters, and not vice versa.
  5. +6
    4 June 2014 09: 20
    This article also hangs on the Faraday website. Maybe Shoigu will at least take something into account.
  6. -6
    4 June 2014 09: 47
    Quote: ANUBIS
    This article also hangs on the Faraday website. Maybe Shoigu will at least take something into account.
    and shoigu with? Cho, should he wipe every military priest?
    1. +5
      4 June 2014 10: 26
      And let it move. it’s his work that doesn’t take much time, not everything is managed beyond the clouds, special forces are not infantry from conscripts, you can raise your ass and take care of people a little bit ..
  7. +20
    4 June 2014 09: 58
    A shame! It turns out that the guys tear off the necessary money from families, and bursts of warehouses from the unnecessary. Then this unnecessary is safely written off and again the unnecessary is purchased. A good feeder for someone. Fight on your own or suffer for the state.
    Industry can produce and if military acceptance is introduced, as in the USSR, then they can retain quality. Then, if in Nar. households the equipment rejected by the military fell - consider yourself lucky.
    I wonder what the guys think about the latest "new" outfit?
    1. +7
      4 June 2014 10: 20
      Quote: unclevad
      A shame! It turns out that the guys tear off the necessary money from families, and bursts of warehouses from the unnecessary.


      What are you talking about? It has always been so, even in owls. armies constantly modified independently both uniforms and equipment, but according to the circumstances when everything was dragged into the army (even writing paper - because there was no supply) what to say.
      For supply, it is procured for which they gave a good kickback, and not what is needed.
  8. Jin
    +10
    4 June 2014 10: 22
    Hi all!
    Yeah ... As usual. Here, along the way, nothing will change for a long time. The chatter around rearmament, as usual, is a great many, in fact, again crap ...

    This generally killed:
    We immediately said that they did not suit us. The same "Cyclone" (manufacturer - NPO "Cyclone") is much better, more reliable and easier. But the intelligence department of the VV considered that we would be alright. ”

    For this, at least, it is necessary to immediately throw out various "very smart managers" who "thought" that way ...
  9. therapist
    +4
    4 June 2014 10: 34
    This has always been the case. Those who buy and produce, do not wear and don’t stuff corn. But it is necessary that the manufacturers carry what they produce.
  10. +4
    4 June 2014 10: 53
    Everything rests on the "agreement" between the management of departments and manufacturers. They buy from those who "thanked" better, probably ... How else to explain?
    1. +6
      4 June 2014 11: 13
      REGULAR ROLLS WORK! And just as always, the procurement market is divided between 2-3 clans, they then pull up the state order! In the USSR, there used to be a unified system, but now everything was torn apart by firmchki and they didn’t care what a terrible mess they were producing! Remember the clothes from "Yudashkin", he developed one thing, and the same quilted jackets were produced only in camouflage, and they even managed to steal cotton wool! Without major changes in the industry as a whole, specials will be equipped at their own expense!
  11. Andrey82
    +7
    4 June 2014 11: 48
    We constantly boast in the Moscow Region that either a Warrior or something else. Make your collimator sights normal and give the men modular bronics. And then - shame.
  12. +4
    4 June 2014 11: 49
    Quote: Jin
    Hi all!
    Yeah ... As usual. Here, along the way, nothing will change for a long time. The chatter around rearmament, as usual, is a great many, in fact, again crap ...

    This generally killed:
    We immediately said that they did not suit us. The same "Cyclone" (manufacturer - NPO "Cyclone") is much better, more reliable and easier. But the intelligence department of the VV considered that we would be alright. ”

    For this, at least, it is necessary to immediately throw out various "very smart managers" who "thought" that way ...

    And you do not have to be ill. "But the intelligence department considered that even such will go down" - they do not go to the fighting "but they are fighting in the headquarters" how can they understand the guys. in your pocket and "adieu". There was one such Manager in charge (hero-serdyuk), now we will have "karap-French", well we managed to give up everything else. hi
  13. +2
    4 June 2014 12: 11
    damn-- on Ukroin it is time for them to work !!! winked
  14. AX
    +2
    4 June 2014 12: 50
    Yes, and in the army, this is the same trouble ... We buy everything ourselves. What is issued (sometimes, and very rarely) can only be worn in PPD. In the fields - only your own ...
  15. +5
    4 June 2014 12: 53
    I was really shocked when I saw how real military and police are being bought in a store that is more suitable for airsoft players! All uniforms (up to epaulets with asterisks) should be issued by the state, and not people should go shopping in search of the right things. There is no own development - copy, and then do better! The Chinese are not at all shy about copying all the best (from little things to missiles) and somehow they do not suffer from it.
    1. w2000
      +2
      5 June 2014 01: 53
      I have a friend - a cop, a lieutenant colonel, says they all have the same thing. The form is bought at their own expense, both summer and winter. The authorities say: they say that they raised your salaries 4 times - do not become impoverished, and the form in the store is like a cast-iron bridge.
  16. +2
    4 June 2014 12: 54
    I will add that Ipoint are Swedes
  17. buser
    +1
    4 June 2014 13: 23
    as I understood from the article, not only every special unit, but each specific commando has its own opinion and vision of what to wear, wear, what to use and what to shoot from. The only way for the state to prevent the special forces from spending their hard-earned money is a large and varied choice in warehouses and arsenals specifically for special forces. but this is only possible in the book ...
    1. +2
      4 June 2014 17: 50
      More precisely, each unit, all the same, a full hodgepodge often leads to casualties from friendly fire. For clothing and ammunition, the UnionSpecial Equipment is doing very well.
  18. -3
    4 June 2014 13: 33
    In some places the article is "advertised". I have already looked after something for "active rest" in the country.
  19. +1
    4 June 2014 13: 37
    The article either describes the events of the early 2000s, or the author does not know at all what is happening around. In the Ministry of Defense, Internal Troops and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, not only in terms of special purposes, but also in conventional combat units, modern means of armor protection, ammunition and equipment have long been supplied in sufficient quantities. Even when I was serving in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (2002-2005) in the Chechen Republic, my motorized rifle regiment had a 100% set of modern (at that time) body armor and armored helmets, and there were also sufficient number of unloading vests. Now on the streets of Moscow and Moscow region, ordinary policemen walk in modular bagharias, with the same "such rare" system for attaching MOLE pouches. Also, from many friends / acquaintances and other sources, I am aware of the fact that the equipping of law enforcement agencies with body armor, weapons, etc. is now at a very high level.

    Special forces buys any bourgeois means of ammunition not from a bad, but from a good life - "the salary allows." Fashion rules in this case.

    Now there are domestic high-quality analogs of almost any equipment and ammunition: Faraday makes excellent footwear, Tekhinkom makes cool unloading platforms and the "plate-carry" described in the article, Fort Technologies and Armokom makes personal body armor that has no analogues in the world, etc. etc.

    For such articles it is necessary to prosecute under the article "libel" t. on its basis, people who do not know can build a negative public opinion about their Country and Government.
    1. +2
      5 June 2014 00: 10
      Quote: kontrobas

      For such articles it is necessary to prosecute under the article "libel" t. on its basis, people who do not know can build a negative public opinion about their Country and Government.

      You still tell for optics and for the kit of the same Kalash ...
      Quote: kontrobas
      unloading vests were also in sufficient quantities.

      from us, too, but I never took it, because I had my own from home, a British woodland with a mall system, only "Otter-3M" could compete with it in terms of functionality ...
    2. AX
      +1
      5 June 2014 01: 48
      Come to us! To the Amur province ... Look. (23 "calendar")
  20. Kisel
    +1
    4 June 2014 14: 04
    truth is simple to madness wassat
    to each their own weapons and armor are more convenient if (before) to do for themselves. the blacksmiths, tailors and other masters have still not been translated.
    ,, stamping ,, or manual work - which is better for the fighter, and what is for the businessman?
    high technology loses mass (as an example of tank battles of fascists against comrades), and as for the warehouses of "Mr.", tell the rebels about it in various hot spots of the planet fool
    specialists have a choice, even if they want with an electric fork, but they perform a task soldier , other matter when the guide is deaf and blind am
  21. 0
    4 June 2014 16: 48
    I don’t know what to say, if this is all true, it smacks of the Soviet army, you have two sizes bigger boots for you, you wrap a footcloth and everything will be fine. Well, maybe the double bass is right, not everything is so bad and the overseas things from a good life, I think the truth is somewhere nearby.
  22. Fluke14
    0
    4 June 2014 20: 28
    Do not put salt on my wound ........
  23. The Art of War
    0
    4 June 2014 21: 13
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAFmm500InI
  24. The Art of War
    0
    4 June 2014 21: 18
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5Wn1ce5IdY
  25. The Art of War
    0
    4 June 2014 21: 34
    Thank you for the article. It’s interesting in form. The cartoon is good, but not in the green. In the green, the best is the Surpath from the sights of Eotech Bronik 6b43.
  26. The Art of War
    0
    4 June 2014 23: 06
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdIj4Bp4G6g&feature=youtu.be
  27. The Art of War
    0
    4 June 2014 23: 07
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2wV8PjLtU8&feature=youtu.be
  28. The Art of War
    0
    4 June 2014 23: 11
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX57FkJc8kk
  29. +2
    5 June 2014 00: 02
    “We put a butt adjustable in length. Usually these are American Magpool or Israeli products. We put the purchased DTK (muzzle brake compensator. - Approx. Aut.), Which reduce the planting of weapons, and some models also reduce the flash of a shot, which is very important when working with NVD. Adapters with Picatinny rails.

    To be honest, I’ve talked about this for a long time, and I’ll talk ...
    the issue price is only $ 200 ...
    “We put Eotech on machine guns, and Aimpoint on machine guns. Russian and Belarusian sights do not like. The collimator is good with a triple magnifier, but it is too expensive a pleasure, therefore not everyone has it, ”says an officer of the internal troops.

    Well, to eat, the sight is a thing, the magnifier is also a thing of American rubles, which this

    In his opinion, the collimator sight should be cherished like the apple of an eye: “In Russia there are no licensed workshops of these companies, and it’s almost impossible to repair it yourself, especially if the matrix has broken”.

    provided that it is not ACOG from TriJicon, it is simple and reliable like a hammer (without fanaticism) ...
    I would like TriJicon ACOG sights, but they are too expensive, so we opted for Aimpoint products. ”

    Well, yes, $ 2 for the sight is normal, especially for such a sight ...

  30. 0
    5 June 2014 02: 28
    Quote: silberwolf88
    This article is necessary for the Minister of Defense to read ... it would be very useful ... but for now industry (and it works on order) does not hear and does not see what is needed.

    All the best is for our fighters. It is necessary. And to make and equip is even better.
  31. wanderer_032
    0
    5 June 2014 07: 37
    And the militia of New Russia is at war with what is and is not whining.

    "Ivan is a soldier, and I am a special hero!" from the movie "One, two, it doesn't matter".

    "We don't need this kind of hockey."

    The motto of a true warrior should be:
    "Use what is at hand and do not look for something else."
  32. +2
    5 June 2014 09: 51
    Quote: teron
    In some places the article is "advertised". I have already looked after something for "active rest" in the country.


    Why minus something? I'm talking about clothes / shoes, not about barrels and armor. I have never heard of Faraday, interesting. And the prices there are really quite. I have already worn out all the clothes and slippers on the dacha gully.
  33. Roshchin
    +2
    5 June 2014 13: 29
    As for the provision, whoever served knows - everything that he received needs to be adjusted and adapted for himself. Otherwise, you will not fight much. Support services in all power structures traditionally have little interest in whether the purchased equipment is needed for those for whom it is purchased. They have their own interests. Commerce is a delicate matter. Ilyich also wrote (including about the suppliers): "The circle of these people is narrow, they are terribly far from the people." Therefore, the men get out as best they can, spending their money. It will be more expensive to be treated. It is necessary to pay extra money for additional equipment for individual needs.
  34. The Art of War
    0
    5 June 2014 18: 01
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSdAtlv-hxI
  35. Alexey Prikazchikov
    +1
    6 June 2014 19: 15
    Well, that our govnovpk still has no analogue in the world for kalashism of the brain, right?
  36. smershspy
    0
    27 June 2014 17: 24
    Good afternoon! What can I say, when my friend was given a uniform, and he said that growth was not his, they told him to sell and buy at your own height! It always has been, is, and will be if the military is not the people who became generals and ministers for the meritorious services, but those who must occupy these positions can change something! Good luck in military affairs!
    PS I remembered how I made a holster for hidden wearing, sutured a mask, looked for shoes by size and .... Yes! Nothing is changing! THE SECURITY IN THE TROOPS!
  37. netwalker
    +1
    30 July 2014 14: 53
    But here, for the most part, complaints are not that someone is being forced to engage in their own work, but that the supply is poor, or rather, supplying a bit of what is not necessary.
    I remember from my history a case: The time for the spring drill was approaching, and we — the young ass officers were driven to dress. (my 1st year).
    At the "flea market" - we so called the mysterious building where we were given a uniform, I was given six pins for a tie and a corresponding "footcloth" - a paper on the amount of what was given to me, which I, for obvious reasons, did not sign. The oversized aunt in the window laughed at me and said disgustedly: "Well, well ..!".
    Military review: I hid behind the corner of the building while the chief frantically gathered us and looked for those whom he did not see - including me. I continued to stand around the corner and stubbornly ignore the red-hot ringing phone with the number "Sheff" on the screen.
    But no one canceled the show, and now Comrade Colonel is walking along the line and here I come from around the corner ..! I am demonstratively asking permission to get into operation - he is all civilian and with six barrettes for a tie in his fist.
  38. netwalker
    +3
    30 July 2014 14: 54
    Poor Colonel has never seen anything like this - he blew himself up at me at a trot, as if he weren’t 50-60, but 18-20 years old and had dropped such an avalanche of mate on me that my ears had wilted.
    When the "polkan" calmed down, I threw off his drool, which he roared at me a minute later and explained everything that had happened with the story from the "flea market".
  39. netwalker
    +3
    30 July 2014 14: 55
    In total, there has never been so much unnatural syeks with my fifth point, either before or after, but the same syex was with everyone from the "flea market". Then, two days later, we were given everything in full.
    And this is all in Moscow, the Northeast ... and you say somewhere in some part on the expanses of our homeland. smile
  40. smershspy
    +1
    18 August 2014 14: 38
    I also remembered the case when in the warehouse I was given pagons in the amount of 8 pairs with the words that they would be useful to me, then I got the rank of senior officer and these pagons still lie! Not yet useful! :)
    It was also a matter of issuing a new pea coat, which turned into a g * obviously after the first washing, and I walked in the old days of my grandfather peas. I can say that things used to be better: the fabric was better, the skin was stronger, etc.
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  42. sergeant.roy47
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    25 June 2015 18: 10
    He got a body kit with a bulletproof vest 6B45, a helmet 6B47 and unloading 6Sh112. Happy as a child. The body kit is most suitable for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Very convenient equipment, to say that it is just super, means to say nothing. Unloading is a separate issue, I advise everyone to it.

    PS in the photo I'm unloading