BIB SIBMAS with LCTS90 turret and Falarick 90 missiles: Belgian-Ukrainian cooperation

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[Denis]

The main market for CMI Defense combat modules with 90-mm guns is South America, Africa and part of Asia

So it is like that, only there is less asphalt than in Europe, is there enough cross-country traffic on wheels?

Ukrainian rockets

Who will produce them, to them now?
And the same wheels will not burn for Ukraine-tires

[cosmos111]

Quote: Denis

So it is like that, only there is less asphalt than in Europe, is there enough cross-country traffic on wheels?

the question here ... is not how it is not related to technology ... it is purely political ...

BIB SIBMAS with LCTS90 turret and Falarick 90 missiles: Belgian-Ukrainian cooperation

the United States promised Ukraine if they stop military cooperation with RUSSIA orders abroad .... here is this project from this series ...
purely technically and militarily, it is out of date for 20 and ... now no one needs it ...

[qwert]

Quote: cosmos111

purely technically and militarily, it is out of date for 20 and ... now no one needs it ...

Not more than a year ago, our plan was to purchase no less obsolete Centaurio ...
If you dump the dough to the Minister of Defense, you can even suck in T-34 in large quantities

[Bayonet]

Quote: qwert

Not more than a year ago, our plan was to purchase no less obsolete Centaurio ...

Yes, compared to Centauro, this is complete shit! One reservation is worth it.

[cosmos111]

Quote: Denis

, will there be enough patency on wheels? .... And the same wheels are not for Ukraine

in the Crimea was enough and now the junters on the BTRx 80 and BTR 4 are enough ...
militia would be, such a few hundred ...

[qwert]

But for most of the year they don’t get wet with rains.

[mrDimkaP]

Six wheels is not enough for such a tower?

[cosmos111]

Quote: mrDimkaP

Six wheels is not enough for such a tower?

fine .... for 17 tons ...

Apparently, the idea of ​​such a glazing Belgian designers
"Spied" on the South African colleagues who developed the Ratel armored personnel carrier

with all due respect to the South African military-industrial complex, most likely the BTR Ratel, a copy of the BIB SIBMAS)) WHICH STARTED TO BE DEVELOPED IN Belgium back in the 60s)))

SOUTH AFRICA WAS IN A SEVERE ECONOMIC BLOCKADE, but the Belgians, bypassing the embargo, sold their SIBMAS APC to South Africa, where it was called Ratel....in terms of performance characteristics, they are 100 percent identical....the only difference is that the Ratel APC has a reinforced bottom)))mine protection))))

[Free wind]

Interesting armored car. The driver's seat is especially unusual. Looking at the world while sitting in a glass cabin is very unusual for a combat vehicle. Although the manufacturers claim that polycarbonate is as strong as modern armor steel of the same thickness. But it is still unusual. The undoubted advantage of this vehicle is the ability to exit from the stern.

[cosmos111]

Quote: Free Wind

An interesting armored car. especially unusual is the driver's seat. look at the world while sitting in a glazed cabin

like ours, the latest KamAZ -6369 ....

or the South African "NIALA" built back in the 80s ...

[datur]

I do not understand!! we have - NONA, VIENNA, BUT - what the hell are we all for then. ????? fashion or how ???

[qwert]

And how many veins and octopus do we have ?????

[cosmos111]

Quote: qwert

And how many veins and octopus do we have ?????

IN THE RUSSIAN MILITARY WARS- 000 ZZZZZ .....
but the same "DENA", "SPRUT-SD" are needed both on the main gun, the chassis and on the WHEEL.

[voyaka uh]

With a caliber of 90 mm it is impossible to create a powerful cumulative stream -
There is no room in the rocket for a large cone.
In addition, laser guidance is yesterday. Work only
within line of sight and escort to the hit.
When hit in the forehead, say, Abrams tank such a rocket only paint
will burn. Apparently, the order is really only against light armored vehicles.

[qwert]

Well, if she only burns the paint to an abrams, then even the paint will not suffer on Merkava.
Only one remedy is suitable against merkava. An intergalactic cruiser of the first class with a quasi-modulator laser system in one hundred thousand million megawatts ....
And then there is 50 on 50. Or Merkava will flood the intergalactic cruiser or the cruiser Merkava.
Everything great and new can be created only in Israel and the USA ...
For which I love the Jews because of their patriotism. We (Russians) sometimes lack it. Even create great things, we often bow before the west ...

But I agree that 90mm is weak for modern tanks. The author writes about T-55 and M-60, and they are definitely not modern. I was just amused by the reaction voyaka uh))))

[cosmos111]

Quote: qwert

Everything great and new can be created only in Israel and the USA ...

In RUSSIA we have created models of armored vehicles that are at least not inferior to Western analogues, and in many ways even superior.... but they are NOT in series production - in the troops!!! We'll get enough for now...

Quote: qwert

bow to the west.

learn and rewrite all the best, it is NECESSARY)))) an example CHINA ....
from Israel, you can take over the construction of the BTR-T "Akhzarit" as such equipment is not enough in the troops ....

[voyaka uh]

You have a rich imagination. But the assumptions are wrong. Frontal armor
Merkava is inferior, to my greatest regret, to the frontal armor of Abrams.

[Igor I.]

there are different cars in the pictures: on the first and third tracked car!
Glazed cab only on wheels.

[cosmos111]

Quote: Igor I.

on the first and third tracked car!

all wheeled...in the 1st photo is a South Korean Doosan 6x6 APC with a Belgian CSE 90 turret...

[cosmos111]

Quote: cosmos111

all-wheeled ... on the 1st photo of the South Korean armored personnel carrier Doosan 6x6 with the Belgian CSE 90 tower ...

here are the pictures, with the CSE 90 tower .....