LAW C-300: air defense in Russian

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LAW C-300: air defense in Russian


Air defense ground "Ashuluk" is located in the part of the Caspian lowland, where the steppe becomes a semi-desert. The capricious sea-lake once poured far beyond the present coast, and where they are now learning to defend, as they say, our peaceful sky, there was the seabed. The water is gone, but the bottom has not gone anywhere - here it is, fine yellow-yellow sand like flour. While everything here has not yet burnt out from the cruel summer sun, semi-deserts are in some places disguised as steppe: low branchy bushes of wormwood add greenery to the landscape. Pound wormwood in your fingers and feel the deep spicy aroma, the smell of the struggle for life, where to survive is very difficult. Where there is bare sand, people in military uniform have worked.

Light ocher color here are the roads along which we rushed to the GAZ-66 (this is much steeper than the Egyptian desert safari!), Equipment platforms and ramparts protecting rocket positions. When a mast of a low-altitude detector or light-blue containers of the C-300 complex prepared for shooting is raised above these artificial sand dunes, you feel yourself like a hero of a fantastic blockbuster.

Marching orders

At the Ashuluk training ground, an event is held under the unusual name of “Air-Fire Conference” with the participation of senior air force commanders, senior officers from different regions of the Russian Federation and allied Belorussia, and representatives of the military industrial complex. The military and engineers study military equipment in action, exchange views, determine what needs to be improved. One of the most urgent tasks for today is to ensure high mobility of our troops and air defense systems as well. That is why the conference demonstrated the possibility of rapid redeployment of the C-300PS division from the base to the new position. Two launchers with four missiles each is a formidable force, but as long as the division is in motion, the complex is completely defenseless, it cannot shoot from the march, and not all threats can be repelled. Who will protect him and how?
The divisional column is headed by a "forward siding" machine. This specific term adopted in the air defense, refers to a group of engineers, leading engineering reconnaissance of the route of the column. The advanced sighting detects an airborne or ground enemy, clears minefields, creates a cordon around a biological and radiation-chemical contamination area, and performs topographic binding of a new missile position.

Eagles in "Falcon"

In order to show the air defense sappers in action, the front guard was tasked with disarming the route following remote mining from a helicopter. The Mi-8 helicopter, flying over the road laid in the sands, scattered training grounds of the PFM-1С anti-personnel mine. Weapon it is not very dangerous for heavy machinery, but very insidious. A small plastic mine has a shape that remotely resembles a wing nut, one half of which is thin and is a stabilizing wing, and the other is thicker and has a cavity inside. Liquid explosive is poured into the cavity. If you step on the mine, the fluid pressure will increase and it will be enough to trigger the fuse. Mines are packed in cylindrical cassettes CFS-1С (with a capacity of 64 mines) and fired from a helicopter (or other platform) with a powder bouncer. While the mine is flying, the fuse is cocked. Painted in a protective color, the mine perfectly merges with the soil, and it is very difficult to detect it visually. Mines of this type have existed since Soviet times, but the sappers' arsenal is noticeably updated. The newest IMP-С2 selective mine detector looks like a real high-tech product - it can be programmed not only to search for ferrous and non-ferrous metals, but also to detect ammunition in plastic cases (such as PFM-1). The device has noticeably improved ergonomics - now the sapper can hold the mine detector with one hand and control it with the same hand. Another innovation that has just arrived in the army is the lightly armored Sokol protective suit. The suit protects against splinters weighing up to 1 g, caliber up to 6,5 mm, moving at speeds up to 900 m / s, as well as from bullets from pistols PM, APS and Browning. Due to the fact that the suit’s armor elements are made of high-strength polyethylene, the suit is more than twice as light as its predecessor of the “Dublon” type (16 vs. 40 kg). All this suggests that domestic design thought seriously engaged in ergonomics and comfort for people performing combat missions, and declared war on "hardship and hardship" where it is possible to do without them.

Plus 15 kilometers

Of course, for the C-300 battalion on the march, mines are far from the only threat, especially in a situation of direct contact with the enemy. The division requires a machine that could work on close air and ground targets while on the move. And in this capacity are two anti-aircraft missile-cannon complex "Pantsir-С1". This ZRPK, created in the Tula Instrument Design Bureau, is considerably “younger” than the C-300 and adopted for service only in the second half of the last decade. The complex is a 12-ton tower, placed on a car or crawler chassis, which houses a detection system with a locator, as well as launchers for 57-6-E guided missiles (12 ammunition) and a twin 30 anti-aircraft gun.

Despite the fact that this interesting and effective system was developed relatively recently, it is being actively improved, and some innovations were presented at the Air-Fire Conference at the Ashuluk training ground. Firstly, the engineers of the Tula design bureau demonstrated the new missile armament for the Pantry-C1. This promising projectile can be put not only on new, but also on existing machines. “This is a high-speed rocket,” says Yury Savenkov, first deputy executive director of Instrument Design Bureau. - This product of the future, which we offer both for export and our army, is a completely new design. The rocket will expand the list of targets that can hit "Pantsir-С1". It is assumed that the new projectile will provide an opportunity to increase the target's range from the current 20 to 35 km. ”

In addition, an updated version of the Pantsir-S on the KAMAZ wheelbase arrived directly from the shop in Ashuluk. The machine did not contain radical innovations, but was a response to the wishes of the military, developed during the operation of the ZRPK. First, in the updated “Shell” the locator received two phased antenna arrays instead of one, and each can work in sector mode. This means that the locator is not in constant rotation, scanning the 360-degree panorama time after time, but constantly irradiating a certain sector. In the case of a locator with two HEADLIGHTS facing the opposite direction, it can control two sectors in 90 degrees. It is easy to see that even as part of the C-300 battalion, where there are only two “Pantsirey”, they can, standing up perpendicularly, block all 360 degrees. At the same time, the sector mode allows not to waste the mechanical resource of the device of rotation of the locator, as well as to increase the target acquisition range.

During the operation of the ZRPK, a small but significant problem emerged: the imager mounted on the tower does not fit into the railway dimensions. Therefore, during transportation on railway platforms, it was necessary to remove the tower and transport it separately, which, of course, is inconvenient. In the new version, the tower received a notch in which the thermal imager can be removed during transportation. Also in the updated "Carapace" installed a new computer with a new navigation system. Improving onboard computer technology for machines of this type is extremely important, since the Pantsir-С1 is a real machine of network-centric warfare. "Pantsiri" can act in concert in a common network, which includes up to six cars, each capable of acting as a command post.

From the gun on the UAV

Thus, production workers try to respond as quickly as possible to requests from the army, but there is a more radical modernization of the ZRPK ahead, which is now conventionally called Pantsir-SM. In this version, the improvement of rocket armament will continue, and the target's range will increase to 50 km. The design of the anti-aircraft gun will not change, but a new generation of ammunition will be used for firing.

“Experience has shown that targets are diminishing,” says Yury Savenkov, “therefore it is necessary that our projectile unfold before the target, create a cloud of fragments. And in about a year we will show such a projectile. Having received such an ammunition at its disposal, the calculation will be able to choose by itself what means to work on infantry, on light UAVs. But it is clear that it’s too wasteful to fire at a rocket near a small-sized UAV, and in this sense the role of artillery will increase. ”

"Shells" cover C-300 both on the march and at the time of deployment in a new position. Then begin shooting. In the course of the Air-Fire Conference, air defense calculations were firing C-300PM systems at the Kaban target missile and 300PS systems at the Pishchal-B target. These targets are analogs of tactical ballistic missiles. In addition, the C-300PS demonstrated also the possibilities of firing at ground targets, hitting the area where, according to the teachings legend, an enemy reconnaissance and sabotage group was discovered.

The skyrocketing rockets launched from C-300 look like bright white-greenish glowing spots, behind which a smoke trail stretches. Fiery extravaganza over the desert only enhances the feeling of fantastical and unreality of what is happening. But in fact, although C-300 cannot be attributed to the most modern types of Russian anti-aircraft and anti-missile weapons, their effectiveness is still quite high, as evidenced by successfully downed targets.
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  1. +5
    3 2014 June
    Having received such ammunition at his disposal, the crew will be able to choose for themselves what means to work on the infantry, on light UAVs.
    It’s strange. Armor infantry ?! Isn't it better to include something with 30mm in the combat guard. than to use cover for this anti-aircraft defense.
    1. +3
      3 2014 June
      From the infantry shell? Wastefully but efficiently. The result will be just stuffing ....
    2. +2
      3 2014 June
      It’s strange. Armor infantry ?!
      This is precisely the main advantage of the Shell during the defense of the column in motion: protection against saboteurs, ambush by cannon weapons. Kamaz must be protected from a caliber of 12,7 at least ...
  2. +4
    3 2014 June
    S-300 can work on the ground !!! cool!!!!
    1. +1
      3 2014 June
      By the way, I was surprised myself. I wonder what is the mass of the missile s-300? if there is also a nuclear warhead to be absorbed, we will get INF, which is prohibited by an idiotic agreement. I think the General Staff has a full reserve of options that allow you to instantly re-build these systems (or their analogues) into service.
      1. 52
        +1
        3 2014 June
        In the Soviet years, even the launch of the S-75 against ground targets was practiced, this is not a fantasy. It just happens to be force majeure, and the calculation must know what to do in this situation, causing the greatest damage to the enemy. And only then leave the position "PUSHKA".
        1. postman
          0
          5 2014 June
          Quote: 52gim
          In the Soviet years, even the launch of the S-75 on ground targets was practiced, this is not a fantasy

          the S-75 has telecasting.
          For the S-300, ground-based shooting is not possible, even the HBO 5N66M will not help

          Quote: 52gim
          . Force majeure just happens, and the calculation should know what to do in this situation, causing the greatest damage to the enemy

          tanks and armored personnel carriers broke or what?
      2. badger1974
        0
        4 2014 June
        why not be surprised, the S-300 PT in the early 80s had at their disposal 5V55S SAM (the last letter means special ammunition), the usual warhead has up to 150 kg in this general series, given that both the states and the councils actively tested special ammunition with artillery systems large hummingbird, then such special ammunition can easily fit into the 5V55S, and the introduction of the possibility of firing SAMs at surface targets was mandatory for all Soviet air defense systems after S-125, without exception
        1. postman
          0
          5 2014 June
          Quote: badger1974
          S-300 PT in the early 80s had at their disposal 5V55S missiles

          didn’t have fairy tales
          5В28Н (В-880Н), last
          SAM for the S-300 is stored in the TPK (10 years on a fuel bomb, in my opinion)
          The NWF (NWF) is always kept SEPARATELY in special storage facilities, the decision is made (as for tactical nuclear weapons) by the country's political leadership.
          The meaning is lost, and the era of the mass attack of the B-52 has sunk into oblivion, a long time ago
          Quote: badger1974
          and the introduction of the ability to fire surface-mounted missiles at a target was mandatory for all Soviet air defense systems after the S-125, without exception

          1. Not true (S-125 ONLY since the end of 1970, and only on ground (surface) radar visible goals; S-200 = without soldering iron and fiction could not) For missiles with television guidance, it is possible for ZHUR with GOS (or AGSN) this is practically not possible.

          2.Only in exceptional cases can be attracted for shelling notmobile ground (surface) targets (NZZ) с known topographic coordinates. Shelling of ground (surface) targets aboutprovided at ranges up to 30 km. For S-300, only for PS, and only SAM with index K
          1. badger1974
            0
            5 2014 June
            1 fairy tales or not fairy tales, the question was we shove special ammunition into the S-300 missile launcher YES, and operational submission is already a second and insignificant question,

            2 what does untruth mean? S-125 (m-1 wave), m-11 air defense system, BUK air defense system (M-22 hurricane), Osa air defense system air defense system Tor (dagger) -this is all universal, with regards to S-30 (fort) - the whole family uses the team an inertial guidance system, that is, telecontrol of the second orod, and an active radar direction finder is cocked 5-6 km from the target, if the direction finder is not cocked, the missile will be telemetered until it is intact, or the liquidator does not work

            3 as I noted above, the entire family of three hundred uses command-inertial guidance without exception, the differences are only in the number of channels and any fancy radio wave crap (Rayton on patriot 2 also applied this control)

            so take it and shmaley at least on the banks, and you can vigorous warhead
            1. postman
              0
              5 2014 June
              Quote: badger1974
              the question was cram special ammunition

              cram yes, but the development was not completed, it was not accepted for service, there were no special guard
              Quote: badger1974
              What does it mean untruth? S-125 (m-1 wave)

              I wrote about the S-125, the S-200 (mine) could no longer.
              I mean "big"
              Quote: badger1974
              with regards to the S-30 (fort), the whole family uses a command inertial guidance system,

              sense then.
              in S-300 only missiles with index K (well, partially P, in mode K) can be used for ground (surface) STATIONARY (fixed) targets, if the exact coordinates of the SC are given
              Quote: badger1974
              so take it and shmaley at least on the banks, and you can vigorous warhead

              I described above what and how is possible.
              1. Take it and shmaley will not work
              2. No special charge (this is due to special storage, theoretically special warhead horse "fit" into the zur)
              1. badger1974
                0
                5 2014 June
                Well, this is a consensus, we are talking from different points of view but about the same thing, and what do you take the point of view on the slope of the S-200, there are some privileges for the S-200, this SAM assumes a central subordination to the head of the country because the nuclear status fell, and hence the dashing salaries, it’s not an honor for the divisions,

                Thanks for the clarification about the subordination, I have no doubt about that, I am waiting for an article from you in VO about the days of the past as a specialist - "The Tu-154 aircraft of Siberia Airlines, performing the flight Tel Aviv - Novosibirsk, crashed in October 2001. All 66 passengers and 12 crew members were killed. " -my personal request to you as an S-200 specialist, how and why this could happen,
                Respectfully Badger1974
                1. postman
                  0
                  5 2014 June
                  Quote: badger1974
                  take in the slope of S-200

                  he is more familiar to me, on s-300 only a month is not complete
                  Quote: badger1974
                  there are certain privileges for the S-200, this air defense system assumed central submission

                  and this is the same (Team)
                  but the main thing is not this:
                  -ZUR S-200 liquid fuel, before freezing on the DB - refueling (as with frogs dabbled in: dissolution of less than 7 seconds). The warhead in the project can be stored separately
                  -ZUR S-300 RDTT, in fact a monoblock, storage in TPK (10 years, on the aging of TT checkers, if you have not forgotten), the warhead is not separately stored and dismantled at the manufacturer.
                  Store missiles with a special charge in the special guard of the division ..... What special guard is needed?
                  Quote: badger1974
                  I am waiting for an article from you in

                  do not print, confrontation, if interested I can write in a personal.

                  Quote: badger1974
                  how and why this could happen

                  in short, the S-200 is a fully functional robot (I already wrote that to make a ballistic launch at a ground target, it is necessary to "bypass" the limit switches and "deceive" the automatic launch angle - this could happen due to the completely curved hands of the launchers (if calculation of malicious intent - something is real):
                  -here and restricted area
                  Civil Aviation Flight Map
                  - and time
                  ==============
                  Well, as an example, we had a large table hanging:
                  satellite span
                  flight span
                  and it turned off / off 3-10 minutes
                  1. badger1974
                    0
                    5 2014 June
                    I personally do not argue about your professionalism, but such as with this bot Tu-154 on the S-300 is ruled out, or am I lying something?
                    1. postman
                      0
                      6 2014 June
                      Quote: badger1974
                      but such as with this bot Tu-154 on the S-300 is ruled out, or am I lying something?

                      which bot? do not understand.
                      The S-300 can also destroy the Tu-154. Both its own and the "alien"
                      What problems?
                      "Bypass" your stranger?
                      1. badger1974
                        0
                        6 2014 June
                        I'm sorry, it's correct to read - a board instead of a bot, no, it's dumb, I don't know how to teach solo on the clave, because it's an opportunity, if in a personal [email protected] we there, I’ll add on my own that the S-200 did not take root at sea, since it is a development of the S-75 air defense system (in the fleet, the Volkhov complex, “slingshot”), liquid fuel in the fleet caused a lot of trouble, that’s why it didn’t take root
                      2. postman
                        0
                        6 2014 June
                        only now did it realize that the "bot" meant the board what
                        Quote: badger1974
                        S-200 at sea did not take root, since it is a development of S-75 air defense systems

                        1.No, not the development of the S-75, it (S-200) is independent (replacing the "Dal"), their complexes are all different
                        2. Yes, nothing to do with liquid, encapsulation solved all the problems.
                        just dimensions, goals and objectives
                        Designed for the defense of large areas from bombers and other strategic aircraft.
                        3. 11 meters, 7 tons = Tallos resting, nervously smoking aside
                        4. I can’t imagine the PU 5P72, the K-1V antenna post with the 5N62V target illumination radar on the ship .. and the P-14 (5N84A) reconnaissance radar?
                      3. badger1974
                        0
                        6 2014 June
                        on the cruiser pr 58 of the "Grozny" type (something out of the ordinary, these were the names of the destroyers), the "slingshot" was precisely the SAM of the S-75 complex, constant fires and poisoning of the crew members, all the current MA was compensated for that for the P-5 anti-ship missiles ( P-35), the fuel was suitable, asymmetrical, etc. you know, but if this is about the P-14 radar, I don't know, I talked with radio equipment, but not at this level, my level, - I came, I saw, I won, or I didn't -well something like this, that is the battlefield
    2. +1
      4 2014 June
      Quote: denssss
      S-300 can work on the ground !!!

      See this as a last resort. I immediately recall the naval battle between Russia and Georgia. Then our missile ship used the OSA on the enemy’s ship. Since the reaction was much faster than the PCR, respectively, there was a choice in favor of the wasp. The result was positive.
      1. 0
        4 2014 June
        From SAM, however, the effect is less. In the case of Georgia, it worked, because from their side were boats. For larger ships, the effect will not be so significant. But your message is clear)
        1. badger1974
          0
          4 2014 June
          well, they fired at the boats with an elephant and a pug, an elephant 4-ton anti-ship missile P-120 warhead about a ton, and a pug of the "OSA" warhead missile system about 15 kg, neither one nor the other worked normally, in fact, if we talk about the S-300 (sea option "Fort"), then 150 kg of warheads at a speed of 2800 m for a second will cut in half any destroyer, remember that one single warhead "exoset" made with the destroyer "Stark", and the exoset has a warhead half less than 300, but add the flight time, Stark's air defense missed both exosets with an approach speed of 300 m per second. Imagine how the Stark-type air defense system will look when approaching 2800 m for a second, so you're in vain about the effects
          1. postman
            0
            5 2014 June
            Quote: badger1974
            then 150 kg warheads at a speed of 2800 m per second is cut in half by any destroyer,

            1. At sea level, this speed not possible (what Zur, what goals essno)
            2. Expensive: about missiles for the S-300, we will not write the cost.
            As an example, Sm-3 is about $ 12 -000, Harpoon is about $ 000- $ 24 /
            What is wiser to use?
            1. badger1974
              0
              5 2014 June
              you won’t believe it, but before you meet the goal of a missile launcher it describes an arc, at such a speed there is no need to wave crests

              at the expense of expensive, when it smells of kerosene, there will be no time to think about expensive, inexpensive, you just need to do everything smoothly on the machine

              5v55 missiles cost from 100000 to 200 battles, depending on the rocket pump itself

              and the states have everything expensive, because everything is complicated and cleverly invented, let the companies profit, their country is so greedy
              1. postman
                0
                5 2014 June
                Quote: badger1974
                You won’t believe it, but before you meet with the goal of missiles describes an arc

                -I don't need to "believe", I know, my VUS is
                - at a speed of 2800 m / s movement
                Quote: Postman
                at a speed of 2800 m per second, it cuts in half any destroyer,
                in the lower layers -HE POSSIBLE
                8,23 m. (PRIMARY IT IS ZUR AND DOESN'T GIVE SUCH SPEED, ONLY 9M82 AND ONLY 2500 AND ONLY IN THE UPPER LAYERS OF THE ATMOSPHERE)
                1. ENERGY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE (SAME NOT mbr)
                2. THERMAL PROTECTION (at the terminals there will be about 3500K
                1. badger1974
                  0
                  5 2014 June
                  Well, for the S-200 operator it is impossible, but for the S-300 operator it’s easy, did you even read the difference between the S-200 and C 300? I don’t understand you, it’s clearly said that the semi-active depends on the fairing, in the S-300 missiles there isn’t such a thing, it acts (fairing) in the plasma, the plasma is weakly penetrable in the radio range, therefore at the end and fairing about 7200 K (Kelvin)
                  1. postman
                    0
                    5 2014 June
                    Quote: badger1974
                    and for the operator S-300 easily

                    ground speed at 2800m / s not possible for any operator.
                    Scratching 2100-2500m / s is achievable when attacking ALTITUDE GOAL:
                    -tt practically worked out- minimum weight, maximum acceleration
                    -released medium composition
                    -the fairing is designed (if I’m not mistaken) for 400grS, at the Earth level of 2800m / s it will be about 3-4000K (+273 = gr. C)
                    Quote: badger1974
                    about 7200 K (kelvin)

                    on the Sun 5-6000K, such a temperature at the ends is reached at 10M. Moving at such a speed is not possible in dense layers of the atmosphere, there are no materials for RP radomes (and for RP there are no materials, only ablation and cooling with liquid helium / hydrogen)
                    1. badger1974
                      0
                      5 2014 June
                      you’re completely mistaken, just the fiber guard has nothing to do with it, Schaub’s naughty guys are at a loss at the Reiton and ask how this brought his shny complex to the level, and at the same time
              2. postman
                0
                5 2014 June
                Quote: badger1974

                5v55 missiles cost from 100000 to 200 battles, depending on the rocket pump itself

                no,
                I will not write how much it costs.
                - The price of the S-300PMU-1 complex (12PU) is $ 115 million.
                - Syria through Vnesheconombank has already begun to pay Russia $ 900 million for the purchase four launchers C-300
                -In August 2004, Rosoboronexport signed a contract worth $ 980 million to supply S-300PMU-2 Favorit air defense systems to China (in 2007-2008, two command posts 2M83E6 and eight anti-aircraft missile systems (air defense systems) 2Zh90E6 were delivered , one set of anti-aircraft guided missiles 2N48E6 and hardware.)
                -In 2004, another contract worth $ 440 million, signed in 2001, for the supply of S-300PMU-1 air defense systems to China was completed. As part of the cancellation of public debt, China delivered the S-300PMU-1 air defense system consisting of four missile divisions (8 self-propelled launchers in each division, a total of 32 launchers) and 198 48N6E missiles.

                ===========
                so consider it.
                Quote: badger1974
                and the states have everything expensive because everything is complicated

                But they have:
                -labor productivity is 4-5 times higher
                -logistics (country "square", ships to a heap-sea from both sides, warm, aircraft to a heap) is cheaper, 2-3 times
                -technologicalf base is more developed.
                on a circle = then that’s what confirms the cost of nuclear submarines, ICBMs and the absence of a surface fleet
                1. badger1974
                  0
                  5 2014 June
                  well it's temporary
    3. postman
      0
      5 2014 June
      Quote: denssss
      S-300 can work on the ground !!! cool!!!!

      COOL!!!!
      but!
      can not!
      fool
      S-300PS FROM 25 METERS, from 10 km in range
      1. badger1974
        0
        5 2014 June
        stupidity, do not activate the direction finder, and into the white light like a pretty penny
        1. postman
          0
          5 2014 June
          Quote: badger1974
          inactivate direction finder

          which one? and for what? For the earth? or for NLC?
          For NLC and in the forest, the antenna post MUST be installed on a special mobile tower.

          Quote: badger1974
          white light like a pretty penny

          and the meaning is white light?
          1. badger1974
            0
            5 2014 June
            meaning? -in object like a pretty penny
            1. postman
              0
              6 2014 June
              Quote: badger1974
              meaning? -in object like a pretty penny

              never hit the ground, always forced detonation before or after c.
              1. badger1974
                0
                6 2014 June
                here is the answer to the confusion, maybe if they want
    4. Lenivets
      0
      August 25 2014
      Yeah, unreal cool !!! And with an expensive microscope, you can crush cockroaches !!! :-))
  3. Leshka
    +4
    3 2014 June
    s-300 guarantor of security of our country
    1. Roshchin
      +4
      3 2014 June
      The guarantor of the security of the aerospace borders of the Russian Federation is the East Kazakhstan region, armed with appropriate military equipment, equipped with well-trained and trained combat crews. I hope that, finally, they began to pay due attention to logistics issues. That the fulfillment of tasks is provided not only by issuing orders and swarms of test commissions, but primarily by material and technical support. Consciousness, resourcefulness and industriousness of our soldiers do not hold.
      Good luck to the permanent staff of the Ashuluk and Kapustin Yar test sites.
      1. +1
        3 2014 June
        and yet the true guarantor is Russia's strategic nuclear forces. Triad: mine installations and mobile complexes, air force and nuclear submarines with nuclear weapons. This is what makes our fucking Western "partners" into cowards! IMHO.
  4. +1
    3 2014 June
    Funny episode:
    C-300 was once sold to Greece. Those resold them to Cyprus.
    Cyprus was very interested in testing their effectiveness.
    And we agreed with the Israeli Air Force on a training "massive raid
    aviation to Cyprus ".
    After the exercises there was an interview. Cyprus said they are very pleased:
    spotted and conditionally destroyed all aircraft. Israeli side
    she said that she was also very happy: all the complexes were conditionally destroyed,
    and the planes returned conditionally unscathed to the base :)
    1. ICT
      0
      3 2014 June
      Quote: voyaka uh
      C-300 was once sold to Greece. Those resold them to Cyprus.
      Cyprus was very interested in testing their effectiveness.
      And we agreed with the Israeli Air Force on a training "massive raid
      aviation to Cyprus ".
      After the exercises there was an interview. Cyprus said they are very pleased:
      spotted and conditionally destroyed all aircraft. Israeli side
      she said that she was also very happy: all the complexes were conditionally destroyed,
      and the planes returned conditionally unscathed to the base :)


      I can, of course, be mistaken, but from the memory there it’s the other way around, we sold to Cyprus, Turkey got too busy and they had to put it on Crete something like this
    2. badger1974
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      4 2014 June
      maybe so, but the question only arose, if the S-300 is such any according to the Israeli side, then why was there such a frantic company against the deployment of the S-300 in Syria? for example, a ray would help to place the S-300 there if all of Israel’s aviation is not so knocked down by this complex that you lie
      1. +1
        4 2014 June
        I never wrote that the S-300 is no such. S-300 is well studied in the West, studied
        and checked the capabilities of his radar (if it has not been replaced since then).
        It is known that he cannot protect himself from low-flying KR - we need
        type of armor. They have their own difficulties. Etc.
        If you just make a raid on an object guarded by S-300 aircraft
        4th generation - he will bring them down, no doubt. Therefore, before this it is necessary
        make a raid on the installation itself. And for this we need separate planes,
        special rockets. The task is doubled in complexity.
        1. badger1974
          0
          4 2014 June
          Well, dk is an operation involving all of the CiS (forces and means), and it pulls a lot, agree, and so, shake it, shake it, an empty sound, like a punitive operation in the southeast, banderlogs have no losses because they don’t even know what they own, and this is not the first time, recall on October 4, 2001, the Tu-154, who didn’t shoot down this side for half a year, but all the same they shot down ......... through HALF YEAR, here are those Ukrainians, or rather banderlogs
  5. +1
    3 2014 June
    As I understand it, missiles are fired at which the shelf life has expired and at the same time they are testing the shells, well, this is a good thing, it is necessary to update the air defense systems, good luck in the future.
  6. +2
    3 2014 June
    Will this shell become a beacon for pointing weapons on the S-300? If this Shell is too straightforward to apply. Probably you can and trick.
  7. 0
    4 2014 June
    In order to show the air defense sappers in action, the front guard was tasked with disarming the route following remote mining from a helicopter. The Mi-8 helicopter, flying over the road laid in the sands, scattered training grounds of the PFM-1С anti-personnel mine.

    If the eyes were in place, then it would be cleared without problems, but mass seeding is easier and faster to clear by remote detonation, because the redeployment of the same S-300 air defense system without a peep from the same space is not possible (and here speed is important) ... -300VM such a trick will not work, it goes in tank formations with "beeches" and "tungusks" ...
  8. 0
    4 2014 June
    Super weapons to destroy the enemy! Well done designer and engineers, thank you for your work!
  9. 0
    4 2014 June
    Quote: badger1974
    I think you're right 100 percent, these from the banderlog command themselves do not know the score for their military equipment, daily armored vehicles die in packs or are stolen into the ranks of the rebels, and they have everything beautiful in reports, turntables are whole, planes too, people in the troops are only wounded so if you do a couple of dozens acting with the Russian Federation, they won’t even notice the loss, well charge the desu that the pair of S-300 batteries went over to the side of the rebels (under the current conditions the phenomenon is rampant), here the rebels frolic, it’s time, I’m Ukrainian I don’t watch channels for a long time, it’s pulling

    It seems that in the Crimea there were S-300 from ZSU. Here are some who were surprised when their own rockets would be shot down.
    1. badger1974
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      4 2014 June
      Yes, why stayed there, they brought us a "triumph", so that the outskirts are resting, let the Turkeys fall in their pants, from Cape Aya to Turkeys 180 km, so on the run of any aircraft of the Ottoman air base, you can beat a paddle, why talk about Banderlog, laugh
  10. Mitrich
    0
    5 2014 June
    About the successful firing of the Corrective Corvette http://pakgauz.com/blog/rus_navy/418
  11. Rayden
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    16 2014 June
    Quote: Rods
    Quote: badger1974
    I think you're right 100 percent, these from the banderlog command themselves do not know the score for their military equipment, daily armored vehicles die in packs or are stolen into the ranks of the rebels, and they have everything beautiful in reports, turntables are whole, planes too, people in the troops are only wounded so if you do a couple of dozens acting with the Russian Federation, they won’t even notice the loss, well charge the desu that the pair of S-300 batteries went over to the side of the rebels (under the current conditions the phenomenon is rampant), here the rebels frolic, it’s time, I’m Ukrainian I don’t watch channels for a long time, it’s pulling

    It seems that in the Crimea there were S-300 from ZSU. Here are some who were surprised when their own rockets would be shot down.

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