US and China, which power will collapse first?

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Currently, it is very popular opinion that the United States will collapse if not in the next 2-3 of the year, then through 5-10 of years for sure. Indeed, the States have big problems - huge public debt, stagnation of the economy, unemployment, strengthening of global competitors, loss of the position of the global hegemon, the possibility of losing the position of the world currency by the dollar, etc. But in the 30-s, the United States also had big problems - the Great Depression (1929-1939), the country even had its own “famine”, which is not customary to recall. The Second World War changed everything; States from one of the great powers became a superpower. This scenario may be repeated, or rather, they are already trying to repeat.

China has quickly risen in two decades, but in this rapid growth lies the terrible threat of the same rapid collapse and fall. Beijing is now feverishly looking for ways to solve big problems:

- Overpopulation of provinces with a fertile climate and developed infrastructure, is a metropolitan area and coastal provinces, with the presence of vast deserts and wastelands. To this end, the government is rapidly developing Tibet, Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, Manchuria (Heilongjiang, Jilin and Liaoning provinces). Thus, they try to solve the problem of living space.

US and China, which power will collapse first?

Density of China in 2005.

- The national question, China, in the view of the majority of Russian citizens, is a monolith, but about 55 of various nations live there, each with its own national customs, with its own language. Therefore, while conducting intensive colonization of Tibet, Xinjiang-Uygur district, Manchuria, Beijing is also striving to prevent a possible split of the state on a national basis. Anglo-Saxon special services and private organizations are skillfully able to play the "national card". Islamic radicals, Uygur and Tibetan separatists can be a good tool for the division of the country, with the socio-economic destabilization of China.

- The Anglo-Saxons can play the "card of democratization" of China, the benefit of the young generations of Chinese citizens are already addicted to the "joys of life." In principle, creeping processes of “democratic values” are already underway in China - in 1997, homosexuality ceased to be a criminal offense, in 2001 - a mental disorder, in 2009 in Shanghai, the first festival of sexual minorities was held. China has revived the tradition of so-called. Golden Canaries, which is more than 2 thousands of years old. This tradition got its name because the "owners" take care of their mistresses, lodge them in "love" nests and lead them to have fun. It is associated with the growth of the economy and corruption of bureaucracy, the “golden canaries” have become an indispensable attribute for party functionaries, officials and businessmen, a symbol of their status. And this is in the presence of millions of young men who do not "shine" to find a wife. If the sexual revolution has covered Russia at the beginning of the 90s, then it has embraced China in the 2000s. And there are lots of such signs.

The scenario worked perfectly in the USSR - “perestroika”, “publicity” and “parade of sovereignties”.

- The problem is “the circle of enemies”, the United States, in an attempt to destabilize China and destroy it, will be happy to support the majority of neighboring states. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, India will gladly contribute to these processes. They need a weak, torn by contradictions China. Even better is the civil war in it, where it will be possible to bet on "their" generals and governors.

Thus, the United States can solve its problems at the expense of the "mess" in China. The world will be shocked by the disaster in China, and everyone will benefit from it, solve their problems - Islamists, separatists, nationalists, Tokyo, Taiwan, Vietnam (can capture the Paracel Islands), India, the United States. In general, Taiwan can be used as a "Trojan horse" by restoring the All-Chinese Kuomintang.

The scenario of launching destructive processes in China could be a “dollar collapse”, which will be fully controlled, the US will switch to Amer, and China with its largest dollar reserves in the world will “sit in a puddle” (approximately 3 trillion). In Beijing, this is understood and in recent years they have been diligently getting rid of dollars - by investing them in infrastructure projects within the country, in Africa, Latin America, Arab countries, even in Europe.

This is just one scenario, Washington has already launched a “wave” in Africa, in the countries of the Arab world, under the blow of Pakistan. Another world war on the threshold. According to its results, the Anglo-Saxons can become a completely dominant project on the planet.



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  1. mishan
    +3
    6 June 2011 11: 18
    I bet on America, she is the first!
  2. In
    In
    -2
    6 June 2011 12: 32
    Oh god-like MedvedoPut, everything happened as you predicted in 2008, and your great predecessors predicted earlier. The fiend of the USA has disintegrated into many states, there is a civil war, no one needs a dollar, they wipe their bottom with paper, Americans stand in huge queues to leave for the Russian Federation, an example of calm and with a rising GDP of 20% per year. The whole world begs Russia to sell nanotanks, nanoplanes, nanoships and connect to the GLONASS system. The wooden ruble has become the main world reserve currency, the central bank works in three shifts and still does not have time to print new bills. Oil and gas remained only in the Russian Federation, the Europeans crawl on their knees to Maskva to get 1000000 rubles each. (world currency) for a bucket to buy at least a couple, while they are ready to sell their children and soul. We look at all these "gentlemen", banging their heads on the floor, high and letting them kiss their dirty shoes. The Japanese use only the Vorkuta 5000 PC and the Kolyma 2010 operating system. The film "Burnt by the Sun-2" is canonized all over the world, the Zulu have been watching it three times a day for two months already. Garison Ford runs for vodka for Nikita Mikhalkov, Angelina Jolie fills his pipe, black Hollywood actors do not let him touch the ground, they wear him in a golden stretcher. Naive, they can't play in Nikita's films, this rabble is too primitive and drinks little vodka. The Amazonian Indians became exclusively Russian-speaking and profess the canonical Orthodoxy of the Moscow Patriarchate (beards have to be glued). Liberal capitalism collapsed, the triumph of sovereign democracy began (your forerunners were right about the incomparable - the collapse of capitalism is inevitable).
    1. slan
      0
      6 June 2011 20: 13
      Did you go to the doctors? However, everything is clear, but in vain, you just have a textbook clinical picture. Honor yourself several times on different days, and perhaps during the period of remission you will realize the seriousness of your situation. Well, would an adequate person begin to smear such boring and dull delirium with such manic persistence.
    2. 0
      22 June 2011 10: 41
      I just read the same great monologue on the same site, in the comments to an article about Ukraine. Where are you from, our benevolent "friend"?
  3. Stavr
    Stavr
    -7
    6 June 2011 12: 38
    The first will collapse Russia!
    1. MichaelVl
      +1
      7 June 2011 00: 06
      Stavr, the first you will collapse yourself, wimp! Whiner! )))
  4. Rico1977
    +5
    6 June 2011 15: 34
    Fuck you trolls. Sit and eat your dollars at the American embassy, ​​sell your homeland for thirty silver pieces of Judah. Well, we know where you come from and why:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZukxgubKUTQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml-Mu0w4a8k&feature=related

    But Russia is alive, lives and will live, no matter how you mock yapping. Putin well done. And he does everything right. Napoleon was beaten, heaped on Hitler, and the Americans, with God's help, will be bent into an arc. Russia is focusing, and therefore you traitors have intensified. It’s really a shame for the Americans to realize that they didn’t finish us in the 90s, but now it’s difficult, and we have become stronger and they are not the same. And it’s getting harder. Our time is coming - and you feel it, and you are afraid. Fear, soon you will be rewarded for your entire fascist policy. For all the deaths and destruction that you brought into the world, for all the evil that you still sow all over the world. And it is already visible - this real evil empire, which is called the USA, will die soon, and then be afraid of the traitors. We will find everyone. We will search and judge as Nazi criminals without statute of limitations, around the world.
    1. +6
      6 June 2011 22: 19
      well done, Rico1977. So to them all unbelievers. I always said that all that Russia needs is a little bit of love and faith in it of each of her son and daughter. Plus, the real work is for its benefit, and not smearing snot on the Internet. I press a paw.
    2. MichaelVl
      +1
      7 June 2011 00: 10
      Russia was not finished off because no one can do it! Even in spite of the difficult, "90s"! And this will never happen!
  5. 0
    6 June 2011 15: 46
    In,

    Tell the date, tell the date !!!
    When this happens, I want to see all this !?
  6. 0
    6 June 2011 15: 51
    Guys - what guarded me Rico1977.
  7. Cedric
    +1
    6 June 2011 20: 15
    China will not go by sea, there are no forces and means, so it will go by land. On land through the Bering Strait, which means our territory. It is interesting how they will negotiate with us? Or they won’t. In short, everyone will be involved.
    1. 0
      6 June 2011 21: 32
      ................... and probably the citizens of the moon will also be drawn.
  8. mitrich
    -1
    6 June 2011 20: 56
    Hypothetically, for the prospect of 100-200 years, one can assume anything: both that the United States and China will fall apart and collapse, and that the comet will fall to Earth, destroying all life.
    But to assume the collapse of the United States and China in the next decade is, of course, nonsense! Supporters of such nonsense usually cite as arguments: 1) the economic difficulties facing the United States, namely the accumulated national debt of 14 trillion. dollars and 2) the disintegration of the PRC into national enclaves as a result of possible "democratization", following the example of the USSR.
    However, firstly, if we structure the US public debt into its components, it turns out that America should first of all ... to itself. The dependence on foreign borrowing is very small. Rather, a big one, of course, but in comparison with 14 trillion. - empty sound, not more than 10%. Considering that the world financial printing press is at the disposal of the US Federal Reserve, and the dollar has not been tied to the gold standard for a long time, the United States can cope with the existing problems without any material and moral costs.
    With China, too, everything is simple. It is only on the map that Tibet and Xinjiang are large, but the indigenous population in them has cried for a long time. Basically, the Han people (indigenous Chinese) live there. So whoever says anything there, China is essentially not only one country, but also a single people, and therefore its comparison with the "perestroika" USSR is incorrect.
    So it’s naive to hope for the self-dissolution of these states, except in the form of a lecture in the school for the demented.
    PS Even more nonsense - CEDRIC's comment. I don’t even want to express my opinion about such nonsense.
    1. slan
      -1
      6 June 2011 22: 00
      Well, no one would seriously think about the USSR in the 70s. Any predictions, a finger to the sky. The probability is always 50 to 50, either they will come true or they will not come true)) and you can predict anything. The article presents the factors favoring the decline of the USA and China, certainly many stabilizing factors ..
    2. Cedric
      0
      7 June 2011 07: 19
      Yes, that's exactly what Stalin said: "Hitler will not fight on two fronts - he is not a fool."
      PS. When the General Staff gathers, even the most "crazy" ideas and possible scenarios for the development of events are listened to.
  9. SHORT
    -2
    6 June 2011 21: 26
    Quote: Cedric
    I wonder how they will agree with us? Or they won’t. In short, everyone will be involved.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    There will be no point in negotiating with you, by this time it will already be Chinese territory ....... winked
    1. Escander
      0
      7 June 2011 12: 22
      Have you already driven your territory to someone, judging by $$$$$$$?
      Your confidence is unhealthy towards us.
      Do not judge by yourself.
    2. 0
      7 June 2011 23: 29
      I watch this COURT is going to die (if necessary) in the forefront against Russia .......
  10. Stavr
    Stavr
    -1
    7 June 2011 07: 44
    Figwam: "Tell the date, tell the date !!!
    When this happens, I want to see it all !? "

    27 декабря 2012 года
    1. +2
      7 June 2011 15: 13
      UNDERSTAND, I WILL WAIT.
    2. picadilli
      0
      13 August 2011 01: 15
      Do not speed. Nobody knows the date and are you the smartest?
  11. Rico1977
    +4
    7 June 2011 14: 09
    We all forget how events accelerated. Historical cataclysms proceeded quickly anyway - no, no, and then bang and in a week there was no empire, and now everything has accelerated. The prerequisites accumulate for a long time, but then everything happens quickly. We still forget that not everything depends on the economy and politics. The Japanese are tired of nature - and now they’ll come out of w, and they will have 1000 more consequences. And only God knows who is next in line. What cataclysms are prepared for us by nature and how will they affect states and people. And the fact that everything is pulled together to a point can already be seen with the naked eye. So you can believe in the Mayan calendar ... And the prerequisites for the collapse are in China, the United States and ours. And who is the first - and someone will definitely be the first - the future will show. But while we are driving homosexuals, and we don’t want to become like European Tolerasts, and we don’t sell our morality for green wrappers, it will be difficult to ruin us. As long as there is something good in the souls of every inhabitant of the country, we cannot be ruined outside. As faith, morality, culture die, then the end will come. Crows are circling over the corpse. But in Russia, the times were worse, and they could not cope with such enemies ...
    1. 0
      7 June 2011 23: 22
      Rico1977 -That is on such as YOU and everything that is bright is held in this world!
    2. picadilli
      0
      13 August 2011 01: 14
      But some people believe that the United States is following the right path and the homosexuals of the United States and Western Europe go to the same place - to light, joy, and to Paradise.
  12. Rico1977
    +2
    7 June 2011 14: 15
    Yes, and all empires at first fall apart from within. And what end will be - the barbarians capture or just fall apart - it doesn’t matter anymore.
  13. Bururuz
    0
    24 June 2011 19: 11
    Schaub, they destroyed each other
  14. picadilli
    0
    13 August 2011 01: 12
    The USA will collapse first, and I firmly believe in this. Long live peace on earth!
  15. Pol
    0
    13 August 2011 01: 28
    USA and China - two interconnected vessels at different atmospheric pressure!
    China is trying to "fill its vessel", but soon it will run into the "incompressibility of the state fluid" ....
    1. 0
      13 August 2011 01: 39
      China, in my opinion, on the drum of "non-compressibility of the state fluid" - it has an army of 200 kk people united by one idea.

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