Kiev decided to change the terms of the "gas" contract

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After the statements about the payment of about the third part of the “confirmed” by Kiev volume of gas debt to Russia, the Ukrainian authorities decided to launch an offensive. This time, Naftogaz presented a special draft supplementary agreement to the existing contract between the Russian Federation and Ukraine (Naftogaz and Gazprom). The contract between the companies has been in effect for more than 5 years, and now Ukraine has finally decided that the terms of this contract do not suit her, and she is going to reconsider many contractual positions.



The draft additional “agreement” prescribes not only new prices that Kiev is willing to pay when buying gas from Russia, but also new volumes of blue fuel. Also, the Kiev authorities are going to completely alter the conditions of supply, the agreement on which was reached in January 2009. Reports about it RIA News.

At the moment, representatives of Naftogaz claim that Ukraine’s debt repayment began on Friday: $ 768 million has been sent through an American bank "in the direction of" Russia. The money has not yet reached Russia, which Kiev itself explains as a holiday, during which most of the financial institutions do not carry out transactions, but transfer them to the next working day.

Today in Brussels, the next round of talks between the Russian Federation, Ukraine and the EU on gas supply will take place, at which Kiev will try to promote its draft on the revision of contract terms. This is reminiscent of "News".

At the same time, the Kiev authorities continue to frighten Russia with the Stockholm arbitration.
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  1. +20
    2 2014 June
    Kiev authorities are great - to unilaterally change contractual conditions - this is something new in business :)))
    1. +9
      2 2014 June
      Yes, they can change, even replaced.
      As the saying goes, if you rephrase a little: their business is to offer, ours is to refuse.
      1. +5
        2 2014 June
        In my opinion, ukro-authorities switched to the use of potent drugs, so there is nothing to be surprised at.
        1. +1
          2 2014 June
          Yes, they have long been no longer Ukrainian authorities, but Ukrainian authorities ... wassat
        2. 0
          2 2014 June
          They started right from them.
      2. 225chay
        +1
        2 2014 June
        Quote: igor_m_p
        Yes, they can change, even replaced.
        As the saying goes, if you rephrase a little: their business is to offer, ours is to refuse.


        Honestly, it has long been clear that Urkain will rinse the brains with gas on the advice of Fashington ...
        they will never be conscientious payers
        and you need to punish - block! just how can it be done painlessly for the innocent? the pipe is then common with them ...
    2. +24
      2 2014 June
      Honestly, I'm already tired of it. I have no patience with them! To gasp once and tighten the screw, so that Ukraine and European talerants (tobish IT) were not in the habit!
    3. +16
      2 2014 June
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Kiev authorities are great - to unilaterally change contractual conditions - this is something new in business :)))

      In Ukraine, this is in the order of things, but in Russia we call such people - Pizdaboly!
    4. +12
      2 2014 June
      According to amerSMI, in California there was actually 95% less gas than originally announced (practically "fuck-yes-little") - it is impossible to replace Russian gas in Europe
      Time is dragging like an ox by the tail - maybe Moscow will lead to Kiev tears
      Panov, after all that you have done?
      1. +1
        2 2014 June
        Well, actually mattress mattresses are going to deliver to Europe not from the states, but to produce it in Ukraine, in particular in the Donetsk region.
    5. -4
      2 2014 June
      and maybe naphtha gas to make steering in Gazprom.
    6. +1
      2 2014 June
      Where is the money Ukrainians ???
      1. 77bob1973
        +2
        2 2014 June
        Yes, how much can you babysit with them? What kind of negotiations can be? Send them SMS, close, that's all the negotiations!
    7. +4
      2 2014 June
      shut off the valve to everyone, and everything normalizes. Europe supported the coup, even if it were to disentangle.
      1. +1
        2 2014 June
        shut off the valve to everyone, and everything normalizes. Europe supported the coup, even if it were to disentangle.

        Don’t believe it, the gas was blocked for us at the plant for debts; immediately, conversations about Ukrainian gas intensified.
        1. +3
          2 2014 June
          Guys, well, it is not the "Kiev authorities" who do this, but the Americans climb in and openly shit. Therefore, in essence, the conversation on gas is being conducted with the Americans, only through Russian-speaking morons.
          1. +1
            2 2014 June
            Quote: afire
            Guys, well, it is not the "Kiev authorities" who do this, but the Americans climb in and openly shit. Therefore, in essence, the conversation on gas is being conducted with the Americans, only through Russian-speaking morons.

            So maybe that's enough talk? Enough of humiliation.
    8. +1
      2 2014 June
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Kiev authorities are great - to unilaterally change contractual conditions - this is something new in business :)))


      Yeah. Did they ask Gazprom? And where did they find they paid a third of the debt. Debt is already more than 5 billion, and 768 million has been paid, and they still roam somewhere.
      1. +1
        2 2014 June
        This is just a new democratic word in the conduct of business and the implementation of contracts. "Euromaidan way" everything is decided exclusively by impudence and pressure, with the support of American institutions of power.
    9. +3
      2 2014 June
      in short, we won't get a penny ... "svidomye" will freeze in the very first winter ...
      1. +1
        2 2014 June
        but no! Obshibsya! They say a little money made! however, they do not want to "dry up"! wassat
    10. +1
      2 2014 June
      yes, and here’s a joke - At the moment, representatives of Naftogaz claim that the repayment of debt by Ukraine began on Friday: $ 768 million was sent through an American bank "in the direction" of Russia - this means approximately on our collective farm that you’re coming from Edith Piekha do right before that forest
      1. +4
        2 2014 June
        The EU is demanding from RUSSIA ... to set the PRICE for gas ... for UKRAINE ... less than 300 dollars ... WHY would Russia ... not demand from Germany ... MERCEDES ... at the price of Zaporozhets ??? wassat
    11. +1
      2 2014 June
      All that Parashenko can now (emphasis on the second letter A) is to become a cancer, and declare that he will take all away! lol
    12. +2
      2 2014 June
      The title of the article is what you might think is Russia is buying gas from Ukraine laughing
      1. +1
        2 2014 June
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The title of the article is what you might think is Russia is buying gas from Ukraine laughing

        Sanya, what? Dogs you have not heard? this is the case !!! through the geyropu! wassat
    13. 0
      2 2014 June
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Kiev authorities well done - unilaterally change contract terms - this is something new in business


      - this is not new, but rather the old style of pi %% owls from a separate mainland, which, unfortunately, was discovered at one time by comrade Columbus. What do you think, at whose direction does Kiev behave this way? Probably, so the pan allowed ...
    14. 0
      2 2014 June
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Kiev authorities are great - to unilaterally change contractual conditions - this is something new in business :)))

      And what are they changing? Maybe we still have to pay them for the fact that we supply gas?
    15. VAF
      VAF
      +1
      2 2014 June
      Quote: Riperbahn
      - unilaterally change contract terms - this is something new in business :)))


      Easy and not forced-in sections of force majeure and special conditions, everything is spelled out to the smallest detail.
      Change of power, everything ..- have every right to annul all contracts and offer their terms!
      So all this is long .. old, but it is in BUSINESS, not in. "2shmekerovaniya" hi
    16. 0
      2 2014 June
      Nothing new, it has always been a golden dream of crooks and scammers of all stripes.
    17. 0
      2 2014 June
      The photo is successful, only the print on the entire forehead is missing: "SOLD", call the next one)
  2. +22
    2 2014 June
    Yesterday, on the Vesti 24 channel, Ukraine was aptly compared to a client in a restaurant, who had lunch, refused to pay.
    1. +16
      2 2014 June
      Well, these customers are usually not allowed into this restaurant again. And sometimes even a little more interface ... smile
      1. +9
        2 2014 June
        Or make a duty in a dishwasher work out.
        1. +6
          2 2014 June
          Five-odd milliards .... I'm afraid there are so many dirty dishes in all of Russia ... Unless to make public toilets lick ... In the literal sense of the word.
          1. +1
            2 2014 June
            One can only imagine what will happen when Gazprom turns on the first pipeline of the South Stream.
      2. +2
        2 2014 June
        Quote: igor_m_p
        interface

        Correctly noticed drinks , but it only sounds better in the translation of inter - between, face - muzzle total it turns out: INTERMORDIUM wassat
        1. +2
          2 2014 June
          Quote: papik09
          it turns out: INTERMORDIUM wassat


          in ... well, and let the half-Ukrainian turn his inter-muzzle.
      3. +1
        2 2014 June
        Quote: igor_m_p
        Well, these customers are usually not allowed into this restaurant again. And sometimes even a little more interface ...

        Or they demand to pay for these devils, those who vouched for them ..
        1. +2
          2 2014 June
          I wonder if they are invited to mow down the debt in exchange for serviceable heavy weapons, and will they agree to appoint an exchange point in Slavyansk? Let's say we drove 10 serviceable ZSU - passed the DNI - a little mowed down debt :)
        2. +1
          2 2014 June
          Quote: Denis
          Or they demand to pay for these devils, those who vouched for them ..

          So nobody seemed to be vouching for these, that's the ambush ...
          1. +1
            2 2014 June
            Quote: igor_m_p
            So nobody seemed to be vouching for these, that's the ambush ...

            Who supported them and promised to help in all endeavors? - The European Union and the USA.
            1. +1
              2 2014 June
              Yes it is. But purely legally, they didn’t take any obligations, so we can’t claim anything from them. We can only threaten the geyrop with a finger - like, look, there will be problems - deal with Ukraine yourself.
  3. +11
    2 2014 June
    Only I noticed how the wiped snot wiped?
    1. +4
      2 2014 June
      In my opinion he is crying. There will be no pipe, no earnings, where will the orphan go now?
      1. +1
        2 2014 June
        Quote: thrower
        In my opinion he is crying. There will be no pipe, no earnings, where will the orphan go now?

        At the reception point of Chermet ...
    2. +1
      2 2014 June
      Yes, he sweated, as after the cross, and wiped his snot! Terrible for the upcoming prospects! And dill completely froze - change the conditions!
    3. +2
      2 2014 June
      Quote: DedJara
      Only I noticed how the wiped snot wiped?

      I constantly follow him closely when he is shown of course. You don’t have to be Stanislavsky, or some great psychologist to see, this guy does NOT believe what he is doing! The initiative is understandable not for him and he wants to be miles away from what is happening ! Everything is clear with this dunce. Not another thing is clear.
      Why does Amer need this circus? What can be caught in such stupid misfortunes? The general tense atmosphere, you see what will come out?
      Or are we not seeing something?
  4. +5
    2 2014 June
    Yes, Ukraine is the theater of the absurd, they themselves signed the contract in 2009, now they want to rewrite it, overthrew Yanukovych for not signing the association, now Poroshenko does not want to sign the economy. Well, what can you say about such people?
    1. +2
      2 2014 June
      As the wise fitter Mechnikov said, "Consent is a product with complete non-resistance of the parties" © Ilf, Petrov "12 chairs". As far as I understand, one of the parties (Gazprom) is not eager to show non-resistance, and why would - a contract is a contract. And also the same Mechnikov expressed a formula that just begs to be applied to Naftogaz: "Money in the morning, in the evening chairs gas".
    2. +1
      2 2014 June
      The American pawn, apparently, wants to seem at least a little independent and independent politician in decision-making. With this non-signing in the EU, a pure game for the public, otherwise the cries would have risen.
  5. +8
    2 2014 June
    I think it's time for Russia to reconsider Ukraine. Since the agreements concluded in the 91st of Russia are now not profitable, just as the current "volumes" of Ukraine itself are not profitable.
  6. +6
    2 2014 June
    Strange, but the article did not fully disclose the topic:
    Ukraine said it was ready to pay debt to Russia for blue fuel after confirming the price of further deliveries at the level of 268,5 dollars per thousand cubic meters. Meanwhile, the price of Gazprom since April 1 is 485 dollars.
    Ukrainian Energy Minister Yuriy Prodan said on Friday that Naftogaz had transferred $ 786 million to Gazprom. The receipt of the payment to the accounts of the Russian company is expected on June 2. According to Naftogaz, the company has thus completed payment for supplies for the first quarter of 2014, based on a price of $ 286,5.
    Because of Ukraine's debts for gas, which at the end of April were estimated at $ 3,5 billion, Gazprom is transferring Ukraine to an advance payment in accordance with the contract. If the preliminary bill for June is not paid on time, Russia may turn off gas to Ukraine from June 3. This potentially poses a threat to the transit of Russian gas to Europe.
    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140602/1010261740.html#ixzz33Rjo8BZ
    June 3 is already tomorrow, but there is no money and nowhere to come from! IMHO
    1. 0
      2 2014 June
      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      If the preliminary bill for June is not paid on time, Russia may turn off gas to Ukraine from June 3. This potentially poses a threat to the transit of Russian gas to Europe.

      We look forward to tomorrow. As they say - "wait and see".
  7. +4
    2 2014 June
    Turn off the gas to them, let Europe solve this question, why should we alone solve the problem of theft? Europeans are happy to give an extra cubic meter of gas to .ope, but we are just silent.
  8. +5
    2 2014 June
    But Kiev didn’t decide anything, okay, take off the dog. In the winter we’ll send them humanitarian aid,quilted jackets laughing
    1. +1
      2 2014 June
      Not a single quilted jacket Outskirts. Let the geyropeyskie cloaks wrapped up!
      1. +2
        2 2014 June
        Let it be greedy for you, but what a break in the pattern, and what kind of cognitive dissonance will happen in Svidomo lol
        1. +1
          2 2014 June
          Quote: Imperial
          But what is the gap pattern

          What is the gap in the template? What are you talking about? Do you seriously think that highbrow intellectuals will be hysterical about "quilted jackets"? Refined aesthetes and other fanciful cream of society? Yes, come on! There are no such in the used Ukraine. Well, or a negligible number. And at least SUCH don't rule!
          They will be worried about "quilted jackets" exactly what quilted jackets! Who want to prove that they have gone somewhere and somewhere better!
          Notice! Not a word about the spiritual! Everything about the mercantile!
          And you are a "template break". No break!
      2. +2
        2 2014 June
        Geyropeypesky raincoats of pink and blue shades! laughing
  9. +3
    2 2014 June
    These are smart people, how much you can already babysit with them, you’re tired of throwing all sorts of statements until you pay all the debt in fact, a pretty penny, no talk
  10. +3
    2 2014 June
    Well, what remains is to pray, if only one of our "stools" did not have time to grease, and at the very least, to sign all these contracts-agreements with Ukraine.
  11. +3
    2 2014 June
    Freeloader’s dream, I’ll come and buy at the price that suits me.
    1. +2
      2 2014 June
      But why a freeloader? Everyone buys at a price that suits them. No one can force to buy at a price that does not like. Freedom of choice - go around the market, find a price that suits you. And if you took it from the counter and used the goods - pay, not you ... be. For this they beat at the end and carry on the counter with a scoreboard.
      1. +2
        2 2014 June
        Yeah, I come to the store where I say buy, the last 10 years of meat, bread, sausages, beer, cigarettes, etc. And suddenly - Yo-yo-yo-yo! Well, I can buy it all not by 400-50-50p, but by 20. Dream w. The tale is simple - the buyer dictates the price to the seller))
        1. +1
          2 2014 June
          In this store you will not dictate anything :))) But you can go to another one - for a large puddle, and there you can buy 20 :)))))))
  12. +2
    2 2014 June
    They are really naive. They think that they will succeed.
  13. +3
    2 2014 June
    X ... I would have them with a goose neck and not gas, brains.
  14. +3
    2 2014 June
    Look at this undisguised stupidity. This is the most stupid government in the entire centuries-old history of the galaxy. Well, obviously !! payment is being delayed, and everything is being done in order to resolve the issue not bilaterally, but with the participation of the EU, they really think that the EU can somehow influence the negotiations! This is a classic rape of our brain. CLOSE ON ... X VALVE LET ALL THE WINTER BE DIED.
    In general, if it’s without emotion. You need to limit the flow (serve only Europe) and say. Here guys, this is a purely temporary inconvenience until we agree to sit without gas. This will speed up the process of compliance.
  15. +3
    2 2014 June
    You look at Sold - and laughter, and sin. He sweats, poor fellow, his eyes run around, and he began to walk like that, side-by-side ...
    Are they complaining to the court? Better, as Ostap Bender said, complain about a league of sexual reform.
  16. +5
    2 2014 June
    As if Russia had not been driven into debt for our gas ...
    1. +2
      2 2014 June
      see Bro) zaminusyut.Urov level of patriotism in the high rolls over. Shot without trial)))
  17. +1
    2 2014 June
    THERE IS SUCH FOLK PROVERSE - "IT TURNS LIKE ON THE GREAT"
  18. Tanechka-clever
    +1
    2 2014 June
    A draft supplementary agreement appears from Kiev - otherwise it is simply that the Kiev authorities are in full swing with preparations for the Stockholm arbitration - in this case, this supplementary agreement will not be superfluous if Russia does not sign it. Otherwise, the lawyers of the Kiev junta will have nothing to show against Russia - and any court "loves" pieces of paper, even if they refused to sign them. The American Bar has abandoned its baited hook and is waiting ... - when it starts to "peck" ...
  19. +7
    2 2014 June
    Quote: Deadmen
    CLOSE ON ... X VALVE LET ALL WINTER DAY.

    The Russian political association "Rabochy" made the following proposal:
    "In connection with the deployment of the destruction of people in the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics by the Kiev fascist junta, the" Worker "association proposes to impose sanctions against the junta: the termination of the supply of gas, fuels and lubricants, dual-use products"
    And what is right. This is all the more logical because Kiev has long imposed sanctions, and in the most unscrupulous way. Firstly, the supply of water to the Crimea through the Severokrymsky Canal was stopped. Secondly, ordered and already paid for components for enterprises of the Russian defense industry, official Kiev refuses to supply to the Russian Federation. Thirdly, the border of Ukraine for goods from Russia is actually blocked, while Ukrainian goods come to Russia almost unhindered. And at the same time, Russia supplies gas, oil and oil products to Ukraine and so on. This is some kind of masochism, and it must be stopped.
  20. +1
    2 2014 June
    It’s time to seriously think about how to block the pipe, how much can you bend before the banderlogs? I would come to the bazaar and begin to set conditions for sellers - let them send them and make fun of them again!
  21. +1
    2 2014 June
    How much can you watch how these jesters from Ukraine make fun of everyone, from the EU, RUSSIA, THIS is a misunderstanding under the name Ukraine, this bankrupt is imposing his position on Russia and the EU, in fact, such an impression has been created that we belittle Ukraine pay please, for me the EU is to blame what is going on in Ukraine now, let the EU delegation make friends with their liberal company and see that Russia will supply the necessary gas for Europe through Ukraine, but if there is no gas, this is not our problem, let them deal with Ukraine, they’ll deal with them Europe was pulled, we are hard to take our position, if they speak no means and we say no, let the United States slaughter for them.
  22. +1
    2 2014 June
    It’s high time to close the valve and do not bump into the worms!
  23. +1
    2 2014 June
    I’m more and more convinced quite rightly that before the territory of Ukraine was divided between other countries. There should not be such a state of misunderstanding
  24. +1
    2 2014 June
    Quote: Imperial
    In winter we will send them humanitarian aid, quilted jackets laughing

    Yes, it's time to start a business for the production of national winter Ukrainian clothing "quilted jacket-vyshyvanka" with embroidery on the chest: free, independent, European, with love, from quilted jackets. " lol
  25. +1
    2 2014 June
    just don’t laugh, now I’m thinking .........
    But Ukraine thought about its image?
    1. +1
      2 2014 June
      Of course, the thing is obvious, but so far the US puppet is in power, what an image, the order of the owners is simply fulfilled. Earlier there were raider seizures of factories, now they squeezed the country
  26. +1
    2 2014 June
    now Donbass will return to Russia, interruptions will start with coal and see how they sing
    1. +1
      2 2014 June
      America hints at their coal, but 3 has more sulfur in it than normal coal. An environmentally friendly kick. Yes, and the volumes are unlikely to be exported.
  27. parus2nik
    +2
    2 2014 June
    Well, it’s very interesting who supplies gas to whom .. And for a long time, will the government tolerate this impudence?
  28. +1
    2 2014 June
    Kiev just does the will of one American monkey. Provokes Russia to a flash of anger and rash steps. Nothing, we have strong nerves, we are right on gas, this is recognized in Europe. We will live to see the cold weather, and then we'll see what the USA will heat up non-stop.
  29. +1
    2 2014 June
    Russia demonstratively had to declare that they were refusing to negotiate with the American sixes, but would only deal directly. There, like the Minister for Colonial Affairs, Biden took the place of the President of Ukraine. so it was necessary to conduct negotiations with him.)))
  30. +1
    2 2014 June
    Quote: Igor39
    One can only imagine what will happen when Gazprom turns on the first pipeline of the South Stream.

    But is it possible to invest even more efforts and money in the construction of the South Stream pipeline in order to complete it as quickly as possible? Or what is being done is already the limit?
  31. +2
    2 2014 June
    Yes! Situation! What else will these dill come up with? They wouldn’t dictate conditions now, but with a huge jar of Vaseline ass forward and a little bent to stand!
    Gazprom! Aw! Do not let me down! Do not shit Russia!
  32. +1
    2 2014 June
    All the same, the Ukrainian government is clearly sitting under something!
  33. yulka2980
    +3
    2 2014 June
    It infuriates me that they can do exactly that with Russia! If they owed the USA, then all the money would have been on the account! Otherwise, the mattresses would have bombed everything to hell !!! No. And we are good-looking !!!
  34. +2
    2 2014 June
    Quote: a52333
    Yesterday, on the Vesti 24 channel, Ukraine was aptly compared to a client in a restaurant, who had lunch, refused to pay.


    This client is also on the doorstep of the restaurant crap ...
  35. +2
    2 2014 June
    Krajina finally decided that the terms of this contract did not suit her, and she was going to review many contractual positions.

    It seems to me in a decent society, you must first pay under the existing contract and only then in court to prove that he was unfair and demand compensation.
    Apparently, after the performances of the Ukrainian side in the last two negotiations on gas, even the most stubborn European bureaucrats began to clear up in their brains. When he was speaking, Sold Ettinger was already heading home. When journalists told him: WHAT Prodan said and asked for comment, Ettinger's eyes twitched ...
  36. +5
    2 2014 June
    Ukraine would never have behaved so impudently on the gas issue if it had not been for the open support of the US and the EU. It seems that Europe does not believe that Russia will turn the valve on! It’s not profitable for us, but to endure the tricks of the self-proclaimed junta is simply not decent! Ukraine-non-state is a clown who for 23 years has not been able to build at least some semblance of a country, because it is not clear from what merit unprecedented ambitions have been raised in its citizens. No history, no industry, no science ... The whole huge legacy of the USSR was sold under the hammer, the rest is the Holodomor, Bandera, the Kolomoisky with the right sector and the mourning march instead of the anthem! They could not draw a large coat of arms in 23 years, they only had enough imagination to paint gold a fish fork on a blue shield .... With whom can I negotiate, but any leader of an African tribe is more decent and legitimate than a pack of people sitting in the parliament!
    Ordinary people feel sorry. Like it or not, the Slav brothers, we’ve been living under the same roof for so many years, and we’ll live, only Ukrainians need to see the light and throw out all the pro-American freaks from their land!
  37. DPN
    +2
    2 2014 June
    It’s not strange, but Kiev is doing it right. Remember your childhood, a young man is walking ahead and sticking to adult children in case of failure, a large group of adults comes up and protects this youngster from not good guys. For this reason, Kiev is calmly feeling impudent and uncle SAM will help.
    It was necessary to sharply block the GAZ, and put a member on Uncle SAM. Another question is that our oligarchs will not agree to this. And until the States see the RUSSIAN FIST in front of their faces. As it was in the CARIBBEAN CRISIS, RUSSIA will always make excuses, we will not be given another RUSSIANS. LOSS OF THE USSR, we will lose RUSSIA if we keep yourself like a FLOOR RAG!
  38. Ozimandius77
    +1
    2 2014 June
    I don’t understand that Gazprom is clinging with them, they shut off the gas and until all the debt is covered, there’s no way to negotiate with them, pi .... they’re cunning ..
  39. +1
    2 2014 June
    Most commentators here write that, they say, Ukraine will not succeed. However, knowing the history of the past 20 years, we can conclude what happens. Not everything, but much. The Russian Federation will either make gas discounts, or allocate a multi-billion dollar loan, or they’ll come up with something else. In any case, they will tighten the screws for their people - this is stopudovo, it will be necessary to somehow compensate for the losses. What will be concrete, we will see at the first stage in the coming days, and then after five months, five.
  40. +1
    2 2014 June
    All of Hohland laughs at Gazprom and Russia! Ukraine dictates its conditions to Russia and mocks it! Conclusion, the loot above all, but the interests of the country and its image on the side! So the fifth column sells the country!
  41. +1
    2 2014 June
    Yes, sitting down to play with cheaters (and Ukrainians with their patrons and such are) and proudly demonstrate their commitment to play by the rules is not the best find.
    There is one tried and tested method for such a crook - a candelabrum in the face, i.e. closing the valve ...
  42. +1
    2 2014 June
    With brains and professionalism in Kiev, everything is very, very sad ... The current "authorities" are still not going to be responsible for the consequences of their decisions ... they will dump somewhere after a while ... behave inadequately with the direct connivance of Europe and encouraged by the United States ...
    It is necessary to close the valve and end any conversations before receiving full money ... when some European countries stop receiving gas purchased (and there’s nowhere to get it anyway) ... then they will take care of Ukraine ...
  43. Tyrant
    +1
    2 2014 June
    In my opinion, the picture is obvious.
    The fable "Swan, Cancer and Pike" - "EU, USA and Russia". And, in my opinion, in that order. The EU and the US are fighting against Russia not only alone, but also together. The performers "dance" every day to different tunes. every day I am convinced that the worse (according to the EU and the US) it is done for Russia, the actually better for Russia itself (MasterCard and Visa wanted to bend us down, but they bent down themselves, want to lower the curtain - an incentive for the early development of the internal market with self-sufficiency and self-sufficiency, the organization of the Eurasian Economic Union, an agreement with China, etc.)
    and therefore, it seems to me, the valve will not be blocked for now. Of course, if today money even falls a little to Gazprom. And they should fall - well, not all fools in the EU are sitting. When the risk appeared to remain without gas themselves, they began to fuss.
  44. +1
    2 2014 June
    yes close the tap for some time and dill will agree on everything! and the geyropa too
  45. +1
    2 2014 June
    Ukrainians think that they are the most intelligent and cunning. You can bargain until some point, and then if you do not want to purchase our gas, then let them go to .....
  46. ed65b
    +1
    2 2014 June
    We are waiting tomorrow with patience. tomorrow everything will show. And the court? The court does not change the price of the contract, this is understood even in Kiev. Therefore, our cries react with a smile. This is for tv zambiukropov to show, and we’ll unscrew this goat dulu mos.kal.yam.
  47. DNR
    +1
    2 2014 June
    Looking at how our officials, Gazprom, etc. are negotiating, constantly hearing talks about possible "concessions", observing the constant delays in cutting off gas supplies, I increasingly come to the conclusion that the Government and Gazprom will nevertheless agree to Ukrainian terms. Not only will it be economically unprofitable, but it will also show the whole of Europe that Russia can be “put under pressure” and at the same time receive preferences.
    My personal opinion is that today Ukraine’s gas debt must be fixed in accordance with the contract, and all negotiations should be carried out only after the debt has been paid. How they will pay the debt is their problem. (This may be the subject of negotiations).
    And the further price for gas should be MARKETLY reasonable without any discounts. They want to go to Europe - let them pay.

    In the event that Gazprom and the Government nevertheless make concessions to Ukraine, I propose that all residents of Russia and private entrepreneurs make an open letter stating that we are also not happy with the price of gas - and we demand its reduction, PATAMUSHO SO HATIM. And all at the same time stop paying for gas. Why should Russians pay fascist Wishlist?
  48. 0
    2 2014 June
    In any case, tomorrow is a significant day. And you can change the terms of the contract, BUT after the full repayment of the previous debt. One fig, with a dump of industrial production they only heat housing with this gas. By the way, have Ukrainians already received new gas bills?))
    1. DNR
      0
      2 2014 June
      And since it is too early to heat, then with concessions you can wait until October, at least. You may not have to do them.
  49. +1
    2 2014 June
    Soon Ukraine will come up with an initiative for Russia to pay extra for each cubic meter of gas delivered, and preferably directly to the accounts of Poroshenko and Yaytsenyukha.
  50. 0
    2 2014 June
    I can’t wait until these clowns finally chop off the gas. how much can you endure this clowning ???
  51. 0
    2 2014 June
    What's wrong with these morons, turn off the vent and let them freeze their ass in winter!!!
  52. 0
    2 2014 June
    Will you be using payments from Gazprom to fuel your winter?
  53. 0
    2 2014 June
    Quote: kayman4
    I wonder if they are invited to mow down the debt in exchange for serviceable heavy weapons, and will they agree to appoint an exchange point in Slavyansk? Let's say we drove 10 serviceable ZSU - passed the DNI - a little mowed down debt :)

    In fact, the subjects of Novorossiya have the right to a proportional part of the weapons of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, as their own property. But at the same time, they are not responsible for the repayment of newly acquired loans to any extent. Let those who took it personally answer for it, because they do not represent the interests of the country and did not have the authority.
  54. +1
    2 2014 June
    It is not clear why they downvoted the author, who only presented data from Izvestia.
    The Washington regional committee gave the order to Ukraine, the buyer, that they should set the price for gas, and not the seller Russia. And if Ukraine has neither the 6th nor the 7th fleet, then how? Wouldn't such conditions be a little expensive? This is a pure provocation for a “strike” on Russian gas prices for the whole of Europe. The latest rift between the EU and Russia is primarily beneficial to the States themselves. They do not need Ukraine as a state, but they need a buffer zone controlled by their Gauleiter for a further attack on the Russian Federation, its allies and weakening the EU economy.
  55. +1
    2 2014 June
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