Ukraine has stopped the supply of military equipment for the Russian Federation

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Ukraine has stopped the supply of military equipment for the Russian Federation


Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov made several important statements today, speaking on the Russian Service radio station News".
The official in charge of re-equipment of the army in the military department confirmed that the new Kiev authorities had banned the supply of defense products to our country.

"Since March, regulatory documents have been issued in Ukraine that prohibit the supply of weapons, military equipment and components for enterprises of the Russian defense industry. In fact, goods have accumulated at customs, in most cases paid and provided up to 80 percent, which we cannot receive," Borisov.

He believes that such a policy will hit primarily Ukrainian enterprises, which will find it difficult to find other markets for their products. At the same time, the Deputy Minister of Defense is sure: despite some difficulties, Russian enterprises will successfully cope with this challenge. “We have to practically reconsider all positions across the entire depth of cooperation. You can’t transfer an airplane without landing gear,” he explained and recalled that the annual volume of deliveries to Russia of products of Ukrainian defense enterprises is about 50 billion rubles.

Once again, Borisov returned to the topic of Ukraine in connection with the situation in Crimea. He said that it was decided to use the specialized enterprises of the peninsula in fulfilling the state defense order. The Ministry of Defense has already conducted an audit of all Crimean defense industries. Some of them had previously worked for the Russian defense industry. In particular, this refers to the 13th shipyard, which, according to an intergovernmental agreement, our country leased from Ukraine to fulfill orders for the repair of Black Sea ships fleet.

Borisov said that the military units deployed in the Crimea will supply the latest technology. It will require maintenance throughout the life cycle. Therefore, enterprises engaged in this process will be busy for a long time. As for the Ukrainian military equipment remaining on the peninsula, Russian generals and admirals are not going to appropriate it. Moreover, there is nothing to leave - the best weapons released in the 1989 year. Our military is gradually returning this entire arsenal to the Ukrainians.

And in the Russian defense industry, they have already returned the institution of military acceptance. Borisov said that the number of this structure today is 25 thousand people. The work of military representatives is already bringing results. For example, the volume of complaints at the end of last year decreased by almost one and a half times.

Borisov also spoke of a new heavy liquid intercontinental ballistic missile being developed for the Strategic Missile Forces. The deputy minister called her "unique weapons"there is no one like it in the USA.

"He is seriously afraid. In its payload, the new missile will be able to carry such means of overcoming missile defense and have such a reserve in power engineering that it can fly through the North Pole and through the South Pole," the Deputy Minister of Defense added. in parts. "

Speaking about weapons updates in general, Borisov emphasized that the developments that our defense industry enterprises are implementing today, according to their characteristics, are ready, at a minimum, to argue with their foreign counterparts.

"Today we do not put on the contracting of work, which are inferior to foreign models. There is no sense," the official explained.

This approach fully applies to promising marine technology for the Navy. In particular - to aircraft carriers cruisers. Borisov said that in the interests of our military fleet in the Central Research Institute of them. Krylov developed three projects of such ships with a nuclear power plant. However, the current state armaments program does not provide for their construction. Will they be in the future? The official answered evasively to this question: "They may be." The deputy minister explained that the construction of aircraft carriers relates to the implementation of military doctrine.

Borisov reminded that in May the country's leadership approved a long-term shipbuilding program. This document focuses on unification issues in the industry and eliminates interference with the implementation of the military-technical policy of the commanders or someone else. The objectives of the program are to reduce the type and on the principles of reasonable sufficiency to ensure the safety of our maritime boundaries of the near and far maritime zones. In addition, according to the official, the ships should have a longer period of active existence - at least 50 years instead of the current 30.

It is clear that all this and much more in our country is being done under existing and prospective threats to the Russian state. Including, from America. "A number of research and development work is being carried out in the context of possible threats related to the deployment of global impact using the hypersonic technology of the United States," Borisov did not hide.

Recall that the US military initiative "Lightning Global Strike" involves the creation of offensive weapons systems that are able to strike with non-nuclear weapons on any part of the planet within an hour after the decision is made. It is assumed that the main components of the initiative will be deeply modified intercontinental ballistic missiles, hypersonic cruise missiles, as well as weapons based on new physical principles.
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  1. +91
    1 June 2014 06: 59
    We returned the fleet to them, the equipment that remained in the Crimea was also returned. Now she is shooting at Slavyansk.
    The question is why the heck? Or is it such pressure on Ukraine from Russia? Press backwards or what?
    1. +92
      1 June 2014 07: 03
      And our gas is pumped for free .. The highest degree of arrogance and betrayal ..!
      1. +15
        1 June 2014 07: 07
        Quote: MIKHAN
        And our gas is pumped for free

        And they tell us about discounts request
        1. +8
          1 June 2014 13: 08
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: MIKHAN
          And our gas is pumped for free

          And they tell us about discounts request

          Exactly! And before, to be honest, the supply of products for the military-industrial complex and the space industry from "American Ukraine" caused bewilderment ...
          1. +11
            1 June 2014 19: 15
            "Before" - this was not even with the oranges. Orders for the ukrovsk plants are placed not by the Ministry of Defense, but by the contractors of the main executors, like themselves. Cause? The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation still does not (unfortunately) have the means to purchase equipment at world prices. Tenders are held, in which both the price and terms are indicated. How and when to engage in import substitution in such conditions? Further: the hell to set up the production of "slightly" outdated products that are on the market and are clearly cheaper (after all, they were put on stream during the union - no capital investments!). Conclusion - you need to create new "products", and establish production at home. Russia has been doing this for 8-10 years already, but with varying success. And even now there is not enough money for everything ...
            1. +1
              2 June 2014 22: 01
              You are right .... they put up mattresses on us, in any case ... how much money will be needed now .... to restore ..... they do not need dill, because what is it? Their main goal is us. They are afraid to take by force .... they’re ruining it.
              1. picca2
                -1
                3 June 2014 20: 01
                While they are afraid ...
      2. +3
        1 June 2014 08: 24
        Quote: MIKHAN
        And our gas is pumped for free .. The highest degree of arrogance and betrayal ..!

        And stupidity (from the Russian side).
        1. +13
          1 June 2014 08: 44
          Uv.adminy and experts of the VO website in the field of aviation! You can reveal the topic of Ruslan aircraft across the Russian Federation. Recently, the media appeared infa that the new leadership of Antonov Design Bureau in Kiev, banned Russian aircraft, in particular the Volga-Dnepr company, undergo service maintenance and, as a result, issue acts confirming airworthiness from the manufacturer. There is a possibility of losing world markets for the transport of goods. Is it really and what can be done? Thank.
          1. avt
            +21
            1 June 2014 09: 33
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            ! Can you please reveal the topic of Ruslan aircraft in the Russian Federation?

            CC and ask in PM, he should be in the know
            Quote: Armagedon
            They drive the last nail into the cover of the Coffin of the Ukrainian economy ... The LATEST high-tech enterprises will stand up !!!

            request They decided that there was little civil war in the Donbass and the Luhansk region and decided to hook up ALL Novorossia, throwing thousands of unemployed into the street. For industry, this is a crossbow. What the EU has been trying to achieve for a long time and what should have happened slowly during euroassociation, Kiev banderlogs decided to do it simultaneously! Ah ... great! In how their USniki keep their eggs!
            Quote: mirag2
            And the nail in the coffin lid is our safety.

            Well, no, it’s extremely unpleasant - yes, but not fatal. With competent management and work, it is realistic to carry out a replacement within a year, yes, something will slow down, ships for the fleet, for example, some will have to work in three shifts, but in general they are not fatal.
            1. +14
              1 June 2014 12: 31
              Quote: avt
              yes, something slows down, ships for the fleet, for example

              Yes, naval turbines ... But here our turntables at 80% were equipped with Sichev engines. That's where the paragraph is complete. And we are one of the leaders in helicopter sales in the world. Yes, and GPV-2020 had to put in the troops 167 Mi-28Н, 180 Ka-52, 49 Mi-35, plus transport: 500 Mi-8, 38 Mi-26, as well as 206 light vehicles. A lot of this was driven by Ukrainian. engines.
              Quote: avt
              , some will have to work in three shifts,
              Here are at least 2 problems:
              a) the availability of capacity. Much will have to be built from scratch;
              b) the availability of trained personnel and technologies.
              And so, in general
              Quote: avt
              overall not fatal.
              1. +2
                1 June 2014 19: 49
                Well, so with frames, then you can decide if the dill gets into production, you can throw a cry and lure and solve the issue of housing by citizenship. Well, all domestic topics, and it’s possible to take cadres with echelons, mattresses did in the 90s, why they didn’t take over the experience of brain drain and golden hands
                1. +4
                  2 June 2014 06: 10
                  To us at the plant in Kustanai already 10 Ukrainians with their families from ZAZ moved. I think there will be more.
              2. 84sergei
                +11
                1 June 2014 20: 20
                Sichevsky helicopter engines are changing to ours. I’m working at a motor-building enterprise myself, this year the order is not measured, I began to work in three shifts. so much work since the Soviet Union was not.
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                2. +4
                  2 June 2014 04: 50
                  84sergei RU Yesterday, 20:20 ↑
                  Sichevsky helicopter engines are changing to ours. I’m working at a motor-building enterprise myself, this year the order is not measured, I began to work in three shifts. so much work since the Soviet Union was not.


                  Well if so. But apart from helicopter engines, Motor-Sich also has Ai-20, Ai-24, D-36, Ai-222-25 and an assortment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And these are our Il-18/20/22/38, An-12, An-24/26, An-72, Be-12 (yes, we have them), Yak-130 (although according to Ai-222-25 "Salute" will probably be able to cover the need), etc. And if the repair of these engines is carried out at our ARZ, then the extension of their resource indicators (in parts) is done only by the representatives of Motor Sich. It's time to change something.
                  1. 0
                    3 June 2014 15: 33
                    Dill themselves on their eggs.
              3. 0
                1 June 2014 20: 52
                in general, we are rumored about a dialogue between the new government and the Russian authorities, soon Gunpowder will take the oath and I hope everyone will solve it. Since gunpowder is primarily of the type of a businessman, he will not be chopping a branch. Based on this, I think that the question is about industrial cooperation it will be decided positively for Ukraine and Russia because the extra unemployed are future fighters against the government. There is no money and pay forfeit- a complete kapets not only to enterprises but also additional poison to our sick economy.
                1. +5
                  1 June 2014 21: 21
                  Suhow - I don’t know, unfortunately or not, but the current government is non-negotiable, well, it does not have the right to vote, and besides it doesn’t inspire confidence, Poroshenko himself and his father pressed the business and, as they say, they killed his brother, and American types of analysts, have their own guidelines and goals, well, and the teams at the same time, respectively, are the most cannibalistic
                  1. -1
                    1 June 2014 23: 33
                    dear nov tech vrn here as in the Second World War it is necessary to start with what is, and gunpowder took 54 percent to prevent Tymoshenko. All the same, he was in business in Ukraine and was in power both in an affirmative and a yanyk (although not for long), this that he has weight in certain circles. He needs to enlist the support of a larger population, and having agreed with yours, he will receive a decrease in passions in the country, leave jobs for those who fulfill Russian orders, other arrangements are possible, including on gas. stability will allow him to consolidate his position in power, given that the West also accepts him, and then the business of diplomats. We are one Slavic nation and neighbors, and this should be considered by all. The civil war in Ukraine will hurt all neighbors (refugees, for example).
                2. +1
                  2 June 2014 12: 58
                  PARASHANKA doesn’t decide anything, agree on something if possible and not with him but with the US ambassador
              4. +2
                1 June 2014 21: 32
                It sounds strange - 167 Mi-28N and 180 Ka-52 will be delivered to the troops before the twentieth year. And where are the "more than a thousand attack helicopters" indicated in the order?
              5. 0
                3 June 2014 22: 56
                Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                But our turntables were 80% equipped with Sichev engines. That's where the paragraph is complete. And we are one of the leaders in helicopter sales in the world. Yes, and GPV-2020 were supposed to deliver 167 Mi-28N, 180 Ka-52, 49 Mi-35, plus transport: 500 Mi-8, 38 Mi-26, as well as 206 light vehicles. A lot of this was driven by Ukrainian. engines.

                Will you have to capture MotorSich along with the area in the load?
          2. VAF
            VAF
            +6
            1 June 2014 11: 43
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            Recently, infa appeared in the media that the new management of Antonov Design Bureau in Kiev banned Russian aircraft, in particular Volga-Dnepr, from undergoing service, and as a result, issuing certificates confirming airworthiness from the manufacturer.


            The news is half "clumsy", because. no one can prohibit the implementation of technical regulations, but the problem is different (which is written further in your news), that the Decisions (and not acts - an act is a document confirming the fulfillment of the necessary list of works and it remains an internal document of a repair plant or a plant (ATB) where this type of service was performed) will not be, and the Decision) the joint Document of our GSVTMTRF and design bureau is, in fact, the Aircraft Airworthiness Certificate (for the period of the Decision).
            so, in fact, we can use the An-124-e only on the territory of the Russian Federation (that is, under the "black" flag), but this applies to the aircraft with Russian registration (and you yourself understand how it "manages") (much more half of the air fleet of commercial An-12s is "registered" over the hill, for this special "thanks" to Neradka fool )
            In theory, the probability of a market loss, that is ... it’s only possible to replace it ... until there is nothing.
            This market is "ruled" by the Britons and all the "transport exchanges" (the most significant ones are with them) .. will they want to incur losses due to the "attempts" of eggs and pigs?
            After all, the Americans are only planning their S-5M, and it seems to be how to give the commerce.
            But there is very little "pleasant" in this, unfortunately.
          3. +5
            1 June 2014 14: 46
            Honestly, the problems from Ukraine are solvable, but their problems cannot be resolved, the ban on the supply of components for our defense industry is a problem, but the lack of money in the Ukrainian defense industry from orders from Russia is a disaster for the defense industry of Ukraine, creating problems for us, they destroy their industry, if before someone had questions what the new government of Ukraine wants to do selling the United States with giblets, now all the answers are on the surface, I think ideotov jump on the square for the new power and shout for maskals at times a diminutive, yet there are more literate people than illiterate. Bandera’s authorities have overthrown i their tasks are clear, to destroy the Ukrainian industrial potential!
            1. VAF
              VAF
              +4
              1 June 2014 16: 08
              Quote: kod3001
              I must say honestly! Problems from Ukraine are solved


              Only it is necessary to speak really honestly - the problems can be solved, but very, very not soon ... too wide range of .. "motor problems" !!! soldier
              1. 0
                1 June 2014 21: 34
                But in any case, we can solve these difficulties. A gang settled in Kiev only complicates its position, creating thousands of people dissatisfied with power in the Southeast.
          4. +2
            1 June 2014 18: 40
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            issue certificates confirming airworthiness from the manufacturer

            I believe that they will answer you more competently, just add my thoughts:
            1. After-sales service, as well as the production of An-124, is possibly carried out on the territory of the Russian Federation (in particular, in Ulyanovsk). The problem is the production of D-18T engines, also with Ukrainian registration.
            2. The copyright holder for the issuance of the international certificate of validity for the B / C is Antonov Design Bureau in Kiev - it is his expert assessment that is accepted legally. That is, at the end of the validity of existing certificates, our aircraft will be able to fly only in Russia. Of course, you can compete for the creation of your own certification center in Russia, but here everything will depend on the economic interest of the West in the work of our aviation ..
        2. +15
          1 June 2014 10: 37
          Up to a third of gas to the EU goes through Ukraine. They don’t have money and they will steal it anyway. And we will have to pump it, otherwise minus 80-100 billion of currency receipts.
          So until we build the UP, we are still tormented with them. And then we will finally close this project Ukraine.
          1. +6
            1 June 2014 12: 39
            Quote: bootlegger
            . And then we will finally close this project Ukraine.

            Yeah, dumb! We will fight for Ukraine up to military intervention! To give up Ukraine ("close the project", as you put it!) Is the blue dream of the Pale House and the entire Bzdezhin gang! This means significantly narrowing the Slavic World. This is what they are trying to achieve.
            1. Gloria45
              +5
              1 June 2014 13: 19
              I'm not in the subject, but with a freshman. This is Kiev today. Che want to know again,
              maybe someone’s brains, or maybe the great thinker of our time as the mayor of Kiev is not suitable.
              1. +16
                1 June 2014 13: 32
                Quote: gloria45
                This is Kiev today. What do they want again, I don’t know,

                Hello Yulia!
                What do they want? Manna from heaven: free gas from Russia, military-political assistance from the United States, Schaub’s oaths, they didn’t clamp gas.
                What do not want? - Work in the sweat of his face.
                The main slogan of the Maidan is "Usyo - to the ball!", "The whole world owes us!" ...
                1. Gloria45
                  +3
                  1 June 2014 13: 38
                  Hello, Ilyich!
                  I made a mistake with the conclusions, no one has any brains
                  here it’s a stream called Maidan-2, although this is already 3, and it passes under
                  fascist flags.
                  http://www.russiapost.su/archives/21799
                  1. +5
                    1 June 2014 14: 22
                    Quote: gloria45
                    no one's brain can be traced
                    here it’s a stream called Maidan-2, although this is already 3, and it passes under
                    fascist flags.

                    But regressive amnesia is evident ...
                    At this pace, puppies Emerlics will return 100 years ago. By absolutely all economic indicators. fellow
                    1. Gloria45
                      +3
                      1 June 2014 14: 41
                      And you looked at what these nemerlyki were broadcasting about?
                      I recorded some pearls, I can not resist
                      I want to send Zadornov. I'll post it here a little later.
                      This is the apotheosis of all mental illnesses! fool
                      1. +5
                        1 June 2014 15: 51
                        Quote: gloria45
                        And you looked at what these nemerlyki were broadcasting about?

                        I have a limited Internet (this is not at home with unlimited), but I can guess - I regularly read the pearls of the Kiev Jew Bandera on Odnoklassniki fellow
            2. +8
              1 June 2014 16: 41
              Close does not mean giving. The Ukraine project was created in Austria by Hungary, and the Bolsheviks, for its successful integration, were forced to support and built it into the USSR.
              Ukraine must be disbanded in the province. As it was in tsarist Russia, when there was no Ukraine. but there were several provinces.
          2. +14
            1 June 2014 18: 22
            Quote: bootlegger
            And we will have to download, otherwise minus 80-100 billion of foreign exchange earnings.

            Why are you with this gas, like a decommissioned cart?
            What are 80-100 billion? lol
            The average European price of 380 dollars per 1000 cubic meters. meters, which means 380 billion dollars for billions of cubic meters, and 100 * 380 = 100 billion for 38 billion cubes, but in 2013 they pumped through Ukraine, not even 100, but only 86 billion cubic meters of gas. And from this we must subtract the transit fee, production costs, etc.
            The same figures were given by comrade Putin V.V. in his conversation with the people.
            And if you download the full Nord Streem and OPAL, then the Ukrainian GTS will get only 25% of total exports to Europe.
            So it is absolutely necessary to turn off the supply to Ukraine, and if it steals transit gas from its future "comrades" in the EU, without fulfilling the transit contract with Gazprom, then let them reason with it as they want.
            Yes, Gazprom and Russia may have losses, and not small. But European countries will suffer no less.
            Here it should be strictly warned banderlog that all losses will be recovered from an independent, not now, so tomorrow.
            Fortunately, it will not do without Russian gas (especially in winter). Like her captive friends in southern Europe, they are hostages to US politics.
            And in retaliation for gas, Crimean water and other nasty things, you can "quietly" close the borders for many groups of Ukrainian goods, they say swine fever, there is a discrepancy, unofficially forbid entrepreneurs to buy anything from Svidomo, close the Kerch Strait (at a high price pilotage of ships), introduce work visas and impose a "kind" tax on Ukrainian guest workers, etc., etc.
            1. bif
              +2
              2 June 2014 00: 10
              I agree with you completely ...
              In addition, I will add.
              Dill according to the most conservative estimates, the Russian Federation owes more than 30 billion dollars ... It is necessary to file for advances in different courts and begin to collect state property (and property of all kinds of Kalamoy-Akhmetov-Porosyonkov, etc.) which is located on the territory of the Russian Federation,
          3. +2
            1 June 2014 20: 59
            Yes Yesniks seem to be ready to buy gas on the border of Russia and Ukraine. And it’s unlikely that our EU gas will be consumed. Otherwise, the owners will painfully give them priests.
            1. +3
              1 June 2014 21: 06
              Quote: Suhow
              .a ty esovsky

              First time ?
              Far from the first.
              And what kind of jargon _ tyrit, everything is absolutely civilized _ unauthorized gas intake takes place.
              hi
              1. +1
                1 June 2014 23: 41
                Duc, then the European Union was very offended by Nenko, their citizens were freezing. Yes, and then I hastily remember, our oaths promised not to do this anymore. Our elite’s grandmothers are in EU banks and, in case of EU, they will be taken for payment.
                1. 0
                  3 June 2014 18: 20
                  Quote: Suhow
                  Duc then Evroope strongly offended by

                  So she was offended by Russia! She didn’t have enough gas!
                  And further ,
                  Quote: Suhow
                  Europa

                  say again, a long time Geyropa! Long time ago!
        3. +6
          1 June 2014 12: 10
          Quote: Tor Hummer
          Quote: MIKHAN
          And our gas is pumped for free .. The highest degree of arrogance and betrayal ..!

          And stupidity (from the Russian side).


          That's just about stupidity is not necessary. Seeing only a small piece of the world situation, we cannot accurately and impartially evaluate the steps taken by the leadership. It is clear that emotions are torn, but ...
      3. +30
        1 June 2014 09: 03
        Quote: MIKHAN
        And our gas is pumped for free .. The highest degree of arrogance and betrayal ..!

        try not to pay us for gas, so the gas workers will cut off without any negotiations, and then they will also bill for the additional connection. With us we can be ours, we are Russians
        1. +11
          1 June 2014 11: 14
          Quote: andr1966a
          try not to pay for gas to us, so gas workers will come to cut off without any negotiations, and then they will also bill for an additional connection.

          In general, the situation is becoming more and more similar to the theater of the absurd. Despite the fact that even the election of Poroshenko did not change the situation, not even a gram.
          The country needs urgent economic anti-crisis development programs, the country is in dire need of political and constitutional reforms, and what happens .............. ??
          Step by step, there’s just a direct collapse of the country !! Everything is being done to condemn the economy, rekindle a war, plunge into the chaos the remains of stability.
          Not only did the same trinity from Maidan remain in power, but an oligarch - an opportunist (from the pages of the French Le Monde) joined them.
          Is our power treacherously silent, waiting or having a certain plan is not clear?
          If Putin manages to gain political points and get out of this impasse, then I will believe in his genius!
          1. +11
            1 June 2014 12: 43
            Quote: APASUS
            Not only did the same trinity from Maidan remain in power, but an oligarch - an opportunist (from the pages of the French Le Monde) joined them.
            1. 0
              1 June 2014 23: 43
              I want to add, for democracy and your dollyars.
      4. +17
        1 June 2014 10: 20
        Quote: MIKHAN
        And our gas is pumped for free .. The highest degree of arrogance and betrayal ..!

        And sabotage-do not give water to the Crimea. It's time for our authorities to "take off their rose-colored glasses", the Kiev authorities have long felt our softness towards them, and their impunity, otherwise they would not be so infinite. They only understand the language of force, persuasion and appeals to conscience are useless - they will not come to an agreement with wolves. It would be interesting to see if we would have responded with similar retaliatory steps: have we limited imports from Russia? -To receive a complete ban on imports of all products from Ukraine in response, don’t pay for gas? - close the screw, cut off the water supply to the Crimea - we shut off the water from our territory to Ukraine. I am sure with such steps the new authorities of Kiev would not have lasted long.
        1. kavkaz8888
          +12
          1 June 2014 10: 48
          elmi Today, 10:20
          "will not agree with the wolves"

          Do not insult the wolves. Those who sit in Kiev are, at best, jackals.
          It turns out funny. Kipling in Ukrski. Tabs and companies rule banderlogs.
        2. +2
          1 June 2014 12: 35
          In 2008, rodents were also allowed a lot, convinced that the Russian Federation would not act. They detained our soldiers, organized regular provocations and finally believed in their coolness and made a mistake. They realized that we will act late, and in 4 days we resolved the issue of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. So let the Ukrainians think that everything is going according to plan, and we will not do anything. A breakthrough of a column of volunteers exactly at the moment when they were needed, despite the fact that our border guards allegedly did not notice them on a dangerous section of the border, shows that our leadership is in control of the situation.
          1. 0
            3 June 2014 22: 06
            Quote: g1v2
            Breakthrough of a column of volunteers at the very moment when they were needed

            Do you have confirmation from the "other" side about the breakthrough of the column "with volunteers"?
            I have another info, and it is from there: it was a humanitarian column! It's also not bad, of course, if you do not take into account that all this is solid amateur performance, and the people at the same time risked their lives in order to deliver medicines. And to help the authorities "in the bastard" - they have "secret plans"! So that breakthrough is not at all what you are hinting at. Although - believe me - I would also REALLY want it to be the "work" of the State ..
      5. +4
        1 June 2014 12: 10
        Quote: MIKHAN
        And our gas is pumped for free .. The highest degree of arrogance and betrayal ..!

        Quote: MIKHAN
        And they tell us about discounts

        Laughing out loud! laughing How do people say ?! L.O.H. - this is destiny! wassat
      6. dmitrij.blyuz
        +1
        1 June 2014 12: 48
        Is it about rusty armored personnel carriers? Let them flutter with them themselves. Soon the men will hand over them to scrap metal. And Ramzan will not joke.
    2. +19
      1 June 2014 07: 22
      They drive the last nail into the cover of the Coffin of the Ukrainian economy ... The LATEST high-tech enterprises will stand up !!!
      1. -22
        1 June 2014 07: 47
        And the nail in the coffin lid is our safety.
        1. +12
          1 June 2014 08: 47
          not only Ukrainian factories are full of Russian defense industry.
        2. +5
          1 June 2014 08: 54
          Quote: mirag2
          And the nail in the coffin lid is our safety.

          and can you explain your conclusions in detail?
        3. Anton-sed
          +5
          1 June 2014 09: 39
          Do you think the chassis and engine will not be able to do? For rockets, what’s the problem? 50 Billion a year, how many factories and research institutes can be built ?!
          And it’s time for the Ukrainian leaders to turn on their head.
          1. +8
            1 June 2014 10: 45
            There is nothing to include there, their seat instead of a head! And for this seat you need a completely different switch!
        4. +3
          1 June 2014 11: 55
          Quote: mirag2
          And the nail in the coffin lid is our safety.

          This is not so critical in the short-term period, but in the long-term we will immediately begin to develop and do it - safety is above all, and also jobs and independence.
          It seems that cooling with Ukraine is rebuilding Russia and makes it even more powerful and independent. And whoever creates this cooling is either the Russian agent or Obama.
        5. 0
          1 June 2014 23: 48
          I don’t know why you were so bombarded, but I think it will not affect the security of the Russian Federation critically, although there will be many problems.
      2. +10
        1 June 2014 08: 01
        Quote: Armagedon
        Drive the last nail into the cover of the Coffin of the Ukrainian economy.

        Ukrainian drivers, act on the principle To you evil, I will cut off my ears.
        1. +7
          1 June 2014 08: 21
          Quote: Sirocco
          To you evil, I will cut off my ears.

          In this case, they cut their eggs laughing
          1. +1
            1 June 2014 08: 31
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            In this case, they cut their eggs

            It is advisable that they cut their bells, right down to the ears laughing
          2. Anton-sed
            +10
            1 June 2014 09: 42
            Well, they now have different ideals. Men without eggs, women with beards ... So all the rules.
          3. Rblipetsk
            +29
            1 June 2014 10: 35
            as already laid out, but could not resist. it really hurts in the subject ... in short, 18 + ...
      3. +9
        1 June 2014 08: 06
        So they are "temporary workers"! Execute the "order" and "ditch quietly"! And the further fate of dill, it seems, does not interest them!
        1. kavkaz8888
          +2
          1 June 2014 10: 56
          asar Today, 08:06
          "So they are" temporary workers "!"

          Taking into account the nationality of the "temporary workers", this is the kaganate. And the kagan was already seated on the throne. And since the kagan is not a purebred (mother is a goyka), he is most likely a consumable.
        2. +14
          1 June 2014 12: 53
          Quote: asar
          So they are "temporary workers"! Execute the "order" and "ditch quietly"! And the further fate of dill, it seems, does not interest them!

          If the fate of the country interested them, then the people would not have scattered and did not die out, as today:
      4. +10
        1 June 2014 08: 20
        Quote: Armagedon
        LATEST high-tech enterprises will stand up !!!

        Not quite so, Russia is only half, but the second half of allied Ukrainian factories is Donbass and Lunanskaya. So when they break ties with their sworn Parashniki, the Ukrainian economy will be completely fucked up.
        1. +6
          1 June 2014 12: 57
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          the second half of allied Ukrainian factories are Donbass and Lunanskaya. So when they break ties with their sworn Parashniks, the Ukrainian economy will be completely fucked up.

          This is true?
      5. +11
        1 June 2014 13: 13
        The future high-precision weapons of the Euroclaws:
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    4. +3
      1 June 2014 08: 13
      This is such pressure from the West on us.
      1. +4
        1 June 2014 08: 49
        Well, it seems that the president said at the beginning of spring that new plants had come into operation and we could do without Ukrainian supplies of components. Although this is also a good impetus to creating our own new and better !!!!
    5. +2
      1 June 2014 09: 04
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      We returned the fleet to them, the equipment that remained in the Crimea was also returned. Now she is shooting at Slavyansk.
      The question is why the heck? Or is it such pressure on Ukraine from Russia? Press backwards or what?

      I don’t understand this nonsense either! Ukrainians generally any inadequate. They also have weapons.
      1. +6
        1 June 2014 10: 49
        Yes, the scrap metal was returned to them. After 20 years of standing idle, and even in Ukraine, God forbid, from 3-4 cars to collect one, and so that it also works as it should. And the ships are certainly more profitable to cut with "needles". Shipping is expensive these days.
    6. +4
      1 June 2014 10: 27
      The fact that they returned to fly and shoot is not capable and needs to be disposed of. We just threw them problems and garbage.
      1. +4
        1 June 2014 13: 12
        Quote: bootlegger
        The fact that they returned to fly and shoot is not capable and needs to be disposed of. We just threw them problems and garbage.

        “As a result of an inventory of the military property of the Republic of Crimea, Russia is preparing to transfer about 350 units of armored and automotive military equipment to Ukraine. As a rule, this is still Soviet technology of the 1970-ies, which has no prospects for use in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, ”-
        http://politikus.ru/v-rossii/15712-rossiya-schedraya-dusha.
        1. dmitrij.blyuz
          +1
          1 June 2014 18: 49
          This is to lose, really sorry.
    7. +5
      1 June 2014 10: 47
      For the most part, this is no longer technology, but rusty rubbish of Soviet-made production, 80% of which cannot move on its own. When most of the equipment was being transferred, databases in the South East had not even begun. Apparently they thought that if we leave ourselves hohl. They will bill as for new equipment, and we still have to pay for disposal.
    8. WKS
      +2
      1 June 2014 11: 07
      Quote: as well as weapons on new physical principles. [/ Quote

      It turns out that the Americans are aware of new physical principles. This is apparently teleportation or a protective force field. So far we should keep up with them. We’ll have to finish them off with an ordinary thermonuclear bomb launched from a catapult.
    9. +2
      1 June 2014 12: 08
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      the equipment that remained in the Crimea was also returned.


      As far as I remember, the return of equipment is suspended. Namely, on the grounds that it was transferred to the East.
      1. 0
        1 June 2014 13: 04
        Quote: mamont5
        As far as I remember, the return of equipment is suspended. Namely, on the grounds that it was transferred to the East.

        That's how, well, then fine, I just did not hear.
        1. 52
          0
          1 June 2014 13: 48
          And yet, out of innate harm, I would have installed some "surprise gifts" in the equipment given away. Well, just in case ... wassat
    10. -5
      1 June 2014 12: 08
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Press backwards or what?


      Strelkov on this occasion says this: So do not deceive anyone - there is no help from Russia because “Moscow does not see your hands”, but because the Russian elite does not want to part with the lovely life in the occupation - Bavarian beer and Conchita sausage. Some people do not want to seriously answer for their words and the rhetoric “no one rebels” is a form of excuse. On the contrary, the more decisive the uprising, the more intensively they wag their backs in Moscow. So do not.

      http://novorus.info/news/policy/16714-igor-strelkov-mne-ne-nuzhna-podderzhka-mne
      -nuzhna-armiya.html

      And you, Romanov, do less fuss, but think more with your head ...........
      1. +4
        1 June 2014 13: 08
        Quote: nycsson
        http://novorus.info/news/policy/16714-igor-strelkov-mne-ne-nuzhna-podderzhka-mne

        -nuzhna-armiya.html

        This interview was in full here. He didn’t say this, it added Kholmogorov. See the source.
        Niksson, well, don’t you see the shnyaga really.
      2. +1
        1 June 2014 17: 42
        nycsson
        Strelkov on this occasion says this: So don’t deceive anyone - there is no help from Russia not because “Moscow does not see your hands”, but because the Russian elite does not want to part with a lovely life in occupation - Bavarian beer and Conchita sausage . Some people do not want to seriously answer for their words and the rhetoric “no one rebels” is a form of excuse. On the contrary, the more decisive the uprising, the more intensively they wag their backs in Moscow. So no need. Http://novorus.info/news/policy/16714-igor-strelkov-mne-ne-nuzhna-podde




        rzhk
        a-mne
        -nuzhna-armiya.html


        and now carefully read this

        A group appeared on Vkontakte, broadcasting, supposedly, on your behalf.

        “I officially declare - I did not coordinate the activities of the VK group with anyone. VKontakte is not a member. On my behalf, I didn’t provide anyone with the right to post anything there. ”Http: //rusvesna.su/news/1401569142


        it has already been before and who didn’t write on his behalf! even if part of the text is prada, the ending is definitely attributed to the gag! I read this report in the spring, he spoke quite differently here they all misinterpreted !!

        and catch up fresh ..

        On the pages on Facebook conducted on behalf of Igor Strelkov.

        “Just in case, I inform everyone:

        In the so-called Facebook I am not registered.
        The page there, which is supposedly being kept on my behalf, was registered without my knowledge. ”Http: //rusvesna.su/news/1401628774
    11. 0
      1 June 2014 13: 26
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      We returned the fleet to them, the equipment that remained in the Crimea was also returned. Now she is shooting at Slavyansk.
      The question is why the heck?

      The same question arose even when the first shipments of equipment from Crimea to Ukraine began. Did it never occur to anyone that dill would use this technique against the rebellious inhabitants of the southeast? Analysts damn ...
    12. 0
      1 June 2014 15: 07
      How the junta is fighting!
    13. kuzia rocker
      0
      2 June 2014 19: 03
      Yes, Ukraine stopped the supply of military equipment that was 80% funded, but even the money paid in advance was more than taken away by Russia with Crimea
      this time. soon Ukraine will fall into hysteria + (Russia will set fines for enterprises that produce these products for non-compliance with contracts) and a bunch of such feces will provoke a new Maidan, these are two
  2. +12
    1 June 2014 07: 01
    UKROINA LOSES 2 BILLION BUCKS! FOR BANKRUPT TOP IDIOTISM!
    1. +30
      1 June 2014 07: 07
      Quote: brelok
      UKROINA LOSES 2 BILLION BUCKS! FOR BANKRUPT TOP IDIOTISM!

      What does Ukraine have to do with it, the USA does not lose anything.
  3. +9
    1 June 2014 07: 02
    Ukraine cuts again and again the branch on which it sits.
    1. +14
      1 June 2014 07: 17
      But when she already chopped it off, finally! Maybe it’s going to ruin your head, you look, thoughts will appear in it ...
    2. +5
      1 June 2014 11: 34
      Yes, it’s not Ukraine that’s cutting it, but Ukraine’s being chopped. Their brains were beaten: they’ll all go to the geyropa, and there we’ll live. amers completely specific goal, instability on the side of Russia. use wide blindly.
      1. +7
        1 June 2014 19: 25
        I am sure that the "team" came from the USA. The imperious oligarchy in Kiev loves $. No fools.
        Ukraine began to receive Western financial assistance. Surely, there was a condition to cut off trade through the military-industrial complex. Remember after the collapse of the USSR, all of our newly-minted presidents lined up for the fin. help. What did the capitalists do? They set the conditions. In RK, technologies at the Stepnogorsk plant (bacteriological weapons) were ruined, where a huge number of civilian products could be produced. The Zenith plant in Uralsk stopped making heavy machine guns Utes. Well and so on. Ukraine is no exception.
        This was one of the main reasons for the need for Ukraine for the EAEU - cooperation with the economies of the fraternal republics. And this was one of the main reasons for the orange revolutions in the Square. Import substitution is not a quick process. It took Stalin 3 five-year plans to industrialize the country. Okay, build a plant, but where to get the staff? We'll have to learn and fill a bump on gaining experience. Years 10-15. The same Motor Sich, met. factories, Antonov Design Bureau and rocketry. The funniest thing is that when we, having done everything, are ready to start, Nezalezhnaya will definitely appear. The United States wants too much from Ukraine. In fact, a radical break (judging by this news) with the Russian economy. And this is the death of hundreds of enterprises. All right, the West $ will shut up the oligarchs, but how will the citizens be shut? It should be noted that the Soviet working class and peasants are very educated people (the most educated in the world in comparison with other countries). Nor are they illiterate savages, therefore awareness of what is happening will happen quickly. And this is happening before our eyes. Ordinary people in the East take up arms. The death of the militia leads to the fact that in his place are friends, relatives, relatives who want revenge. Puppets in power only speed up the process - shelling of residential areas, airports, schools, children. gardens, hospitals and other infrastructure leads not only to fear of the population (which the "authorities" count on), but also to anger and a desire for revenge. The fear of shelling will dull, but it is impossible to forgive the death of loved ones and the destruction of your hometown or village. There are signs that the "authorities" have begun to realize the loss of South-East - they are bombing the infrastructure of settlements. hi
    3. Elle-elle
      +1
      2 June 2014 13: 19
      This is a national feature of this people, transmitted genetically
  4. +8
    1 June 2014 07: 02
    Everyone is doing anyhow to annoy the "damned maskals", all the apples must be "pindkusyvat"!
    1. +2
      1 June 2014 07: 33
      Quote: Rostovchanin
      Everyone is doing anyhow to annoy the "damned maskals", all the apples must be "pindkusyvat"!

      Ukraine as a small child behaves .. (once in a bad company) and laughter and sin ..
    2. +22
      1 June 2014 08: 04
      Yes, come on, you remember Ukraine. The USA is fighting openly against Russia, using the resources and manpower of Ukraine. They don't give a damn about Ukraine, just like the Ukrainians themselves.
      1. +9
        1 June 2014 09: 24
        Quote: Jurkovs
        I don’t give a damn about the Ukrainians themselves.

        This is what surprises me the most! They fly to the railroad station and squeal with delight request
        1. kavkaz8888
          +3
          1 June 2014 11: 05
          dmitriygorshkov Today, 09:24
          "They fly to zh_pu and squeal with delight"

          Do you mind if I upgrade the phrase?

          Fly to w_pu downloaded and squeal with delight
      2. +3
        1 June 2014 13: 19
        Quote: Jurkovs
        The USA is fighting openly against Russia, using the resources and manpower of Ukraine. They don't give a damn about Ukraine

        To the root !!! The USA is ready to fight with Russia until the last Ukrainian! And then also deploy bases with missile defense in the territory of dill.
      3. +1
        1 June 2014 21: 32
        turn very many do not give a damn, just a lot of people were led by all garbage, others were offended by the Crimea.
  5. +5
    1 June 2014 07: 03
    Provocateurs. Now forced to seize Ukraine. Where can we go without Ukrainian technology?
    1. +7
      1 June 2014 08: 26
      Quote: figter
      Provocateurs. Now forced to seize Ukraine. Where can we go without Ukrainian technology?

      You are a funny man, "Ukrainian technology" is not critical at all.
      1. +2
        1 June 2014 08: 31
        For fans to put cons. It's sarcasm.
      2. +2
        1 June 2014 08: 40
        Quote: Tor Hummer
        "Ukrainian technology" is not critical at all.

        Is it true that there is still a factory where gas turbine engines are made for ships?
        1. avt
          +2
          1 June 2014 09: 36
          Quote: saag
          Is it true that there is still a factory where gas turbine engines are made for ships?

          "Saturn" seems to have received a manufacturing command.
          1. +3
            1 June 2014 09: 48
            When they do something then it will be seen
    2. +3
      1 June 2014 08: 33
      Additionally, for those who have the radio turned off and on board, I repeat - this is sarcasm ... sarcasm! That's how they shoot at their own!
  6. Erg
    +10
    1 June 2014 07: 03
    Chubat did not do anything unexpected. I think this is not the last pebble in our garden
    1. +3
      1 June 2014 09: 28
      Quote: Erg
      Chubat did nothing unexpected

      I agree. It would be much more surprising with all that is happening, they would still supply us with something military.
      We would have to carry out expensive analyzes and tests to understand "where is the catch!"
      1. Erg
        +1
        1 June 2014 20: 51
        After the Crimean canal was bombarded, I do not expect anything from these Judas. Petty, dishonorable, sick of them
  7. +10
    1 June 2014 07: 04
    Well, the results of the sanction are already visible. The defense began to come to life.
  8. +12
    1 June 2014 07: 05
    To spite mom’s frostbitten ears. Provoke bastards! It is a pity that the money paid in advance. The same picture as for gas.
    1. +5
      1 June 2014 07: 13
      Quote: siberalt
      It is a pity that the money paid in advance.

      Well, in any case, they will have to return the money. There is no current, you can take it with factories later, if that.
      1. +2
        1 June 2014 09: 20
        Now they won't pay with the factories ... "it was not ordered to let go ..." if only with lard ...
        1. +4
          1 June 2014 10: 50
          So they have no fat. Mustache dropped Herroyam ...
    2. +4
      1 June 2014 09: 30
      Quote: siberalt
      It is a pity that the money paid in advance.

      In fact, if, as the author writes, this product has accumulated at customs, you can quickly go in and pick it up. The Germans will also appreciate: -It is paid!
    3. +3
      1 June 2014 13: 43
      Quote: siberalt
      It is a pity that the money paid in advance. The same picture as for gas.

      Nooo, Oleg! The picture is exactly the opposite: we have not yet received, but already paid, and dill burned gas, but are not going to pay. Apparently play out soon ...
  9. +9
    1 June 2014 07: 14
    Well, another twenty thousand unemployed, ready to stand up against the government.
  10. +1
    1 June 2014 07: 14
    Our military is gradually returning this entire arsenal to Ukrainians.
    ************************
    Smelted for scrap.
    1. +4
      1 June 2014 08: 02
      Quote: Semyon Semyonich
      Smelted for scrap.

      Better on bombs. And then return to Ukraine. In the district of Rada. By reset method ... We got it already ...
    2. +2
      1 June 2014 13: 51
      Quote: Semyon Semyonich
      Smelted for scrap.

      "Semyon-Semyonich! ..." (c)
      Patent urgently! This is a new word in metallurgy. Scrap metal is usually used to make melt, and then "melt into scrap metal" - well, it's a straight time machine! laughing
  11. +9
    1 June 2014 07: 14
    kept 80 percent of the goods paid) they also pay a fine)
    1. +4
      1 June 2014 11: 58
      Quote: -sh-
      kept 80 percent of the goods paid) they also pay a fine)

      The French do not risk the Mistral to slow down, but these "smart guys" are happy to try ...
      1. +3
        1 June 2014 12: 24
        They will not get it right now! I will not be surprised that they will soon begin provocations on the Russian border, if only to force Russia to send troops to Ukraine!
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  12. -1
    1 June 2014 07: 15
    If only the fucking Americans would not again drag us into the arms race. And then this has already led to the collapse of a country such as the USSR.
    1. +15
      1 June 2014 08: 19
      the collapse of the Union is not to blame for the arms race but traitors at the helm
      1. +1
        1 June 2014 09: 33
        Quote: snifer
        the collapse of the Union is not to blame for the arms race but traitors at the helm

        It is equivalent to say that the Maidan was because of Yanukovych.
      2. +4
        1 June 2014 10: 52
        Right! The Yankees themselves were on the edge with this race ...
    2. +1
      1 June 2014 09: 32
      Quote: juborg
      If only the fucking amerikosy again did not drag us into the arms race

      Now they themselves can’t do it, and it’s garbage! If only it didn’t reach the Third World ....
  13. +2
    1 June 2014 07: 20
    Oh, and we love to step on the rake! Right some kind of national sport, damn it.
  14. +4
    1 June 2014 07: 21
    Once again confirms that the new government wanted to spit on the people of Ukraine. After all, first of all, ordinary people will suffer from stopping these enterprises. But dancing to the tune of the American ambassador, they still do not do this.
  15. +5
    1 June 2014 07: 23
    The State Department bankrupts the state, for the State Department sons, business organizes ...
  16. +9
    1 June 2014 07: 23
    And ours from Crimea return military equipment to them ... It would be necessary to return through the eastern border, through Lugansk.
  17. +10
    1 June 2014 07: 24
    Quote: juborg
    If only the fucking Americans would not again drag us into the arms race. And then this has already led to the collapse of a country such as the USSR.

    It is not a fact that the defense industry of the USSR did not consume as much as the liberosmi wrote, the country could afford to maintain a worthy army and navy, and they are still screaming that it takes a lot of army !!! hiBut it’s high time to make the arms and military equipment production cycle closed, from project to product, everything is in RUSSIA !!! They’ll turn off the Khokhlov until they pay off the debt and make an advance payment, and no more concessions to US puppets !!! am
    1. +4
      1 June 2014 11: 00
      Not a fact, the defense industry of the USSR did not consume as much as liberosmi wrote


      Sorry, consumed. It's not even the absolute numbers. In the mid-80s, the United States spent about 25% of GDP on the defense industry (the entire complex to maintain the country's defense capability, rather than the declared military budget), and the USSR about 60%. Anyone who studied military economics at that time can confirm this. The data is not confidential, it was simply not disseminated about.
      1. +4
        1 June 2014 11: 41
        don’t forget how many “friends” there were, and they were supplied with weapons and production, either for free or at ridiculous prices. and the betrayal, in my opinion, took place.
    2. +1
      1 June 2014 14: 07
      Quote: kot28.ru
      To turn off the Khokhlam gas until they pay off the debt and make an advance payment,

      Desire is laudable, right. That's just how to technically fulfill this, when they take gas from a common pipe, on their territory. Therefore, it is rather necessary to build a SO. And you also need to put Europe on your ears so that it affects the thieves. Slovakia seems to have agreed to re-export gas to Ukraine. Let's see what happens.
  18. +3
    1 June 2014 07: 30
    The equipment in the Crimea is worn and rusty. All these years, Ukraine has not invested in Crimea. Everything fell into decay there. To bring the equipment to working condition, you need denyuzhka and resources. Banderlogs do not have this.
  19. +1
    1 June 2014 07: 30
    And that there won't be "Itogi" today ..?
  20. +3
    1 June 2014 07: 35
    It is unfortunate that the defense industry of Ukraine in a short time to turn into trash.
    And there were times the Ukrainian SSR was a leader in many areas of the military.
  21. +4
    1 June 2014 07: 37
    Here's another confirmation and justification for our angry posts about - turn the gas valve on today! And our government is now thinking - "... after all, they shoved a little, maybe we need to be softer with them ..." forgive us everything. Although they shout that they do not want to be Russia's younger brother, they themselves want to be nephews, and grandchildren, and great-grandchildren.
    1. +2
      1 June 2014 14: 18
      Quote: ochakow703
      Russia is large, kind and generous, forgive us all.

      It's time to stop ungrateful creatures with charity. You can forgive Mongolia. On 23 of June she declared war on Germany and the whole war supplied us with meat and short fur coats. And she never said a word against. And some social crawls just watched how to snatch and escape. It is necessary to lend on security. The pensioners themselves do not fatten, but how much emergency housing! as if the war ended yesterday! And we forgive lards. If you know that they won’t return it, don’t give it, or ask for a military base indefinitely, at least IMHO.
  22. +1
    1 June 2014 07: 43
    Ukraine has gone into pieces, with each step approaching the abyss from which Ukraine can’t get out, there will be no country called Ukraine.
  23. +2
    1 June 2014 07: 44
    Quote: Queen
    Ukraine cuts again and again the branch on which it sits.

    It Poroshenko chopped him, and his owners help to keep an ax.
    1. +1
      1 June 2014 08: 13
      Yes, he no longer cuts, the American ambassador gave him a personal hacksaw. So things will go faster!
  24. +2
    1 June 2014 07: 45
    Quote: kot28.ru
    Quote: juborg
    If only the fucking Americans would not again drag us into the arms race. And then this has already led to the collapse of a country such as the USSR.

    It is not a fact that the defense industry of the USSR did not consume as much as the liberosmi wrote, the country could afford to maintain a worthy army and navy, and they are still screaming that it takes a lot of army !!! hiBut it’s high time to make the arms and military equipment production cycle closed, from project to product, everything is in RUSSIA !!! They’ll turn off the Khokhlov until they pay off the debt and make an advance payment, and no more concessions to US puppets !!! am

    That's right, who screams the loudest and participated in the collapse of the USSR, as well as assistance to third world countries, almost all of the Union’s export earnings went to them, and now they continue to get underfoot, everyone doesn’t allow them to take a tougher position in Ukraine, and the technology transferring back, this is scrap metal, the opinion of the representatives of Uralvagonzavod.
  25. +3
    1 June 2014 07: 48
    This technique was necessary for our landfills as a target.
  26. +2
    1 June 2014 07: 50
    Quote: kot28.ru
    To turn off the Khokhlam gas until they pay off the debt and make an advance payment in advance, and no more concessions to US puppets !!


    How to do it technically, without prejudice to Europe?
    1. +4
      1 June 2014 08: 45
      Quote: suomi42
      How to do it technically, without prejudice to Europe?

      Put a gas meter at the inlet and outlet. Thus, it will be possible to supply the required volume for Europe, and if it reaches Europe less, it means the fact of theft on the face and this will be the reason for joint proceedings.
      1. +4
        1 June 2014 11: 02
        Put a gas meter at the inlet and outlet.

        Always stood and stand. So what?
      2. kavkaz8888
        +3
        1 June 2014 11: 25
        Tor Hummer Today, 08:45
        "Install a gas meter at the inlet and outlet"

        So it is done. The humor is that We (Russia) are responsible for gas to the western Ukrgranitsa. And the counters stand. COUNTERS. And there should be ONE. On the Russian border. And Eureka the observer.
        1. +2
          1 June 2014 14: 43
          Quote: kavkaz8888
          counters are standing. COUNTERS.

          It is necessary to change the terms of the supply contract. Europe regularly pays for the gas that it received ON THE COUNTER! And the one that the Ukrainians communized is the supplier’s problem (such as shaking, shrinking, fighting!). Ukraine should 100% be responsible for the safety of the gas received through the pipe. If it is missing - a fine in the 3 size: to Gazprom, the Russian Federation and the Consumer. Maybe then they will stop stealing.
  27. +3
    1 June 2014 07: 58
    Quote: suomi42
    Quote: kot28.ru
    To turn off the Khokhlam gas until they pay off the debt and make an advance payment in advance, and no more concessions to US puppets !!


    How to do it technically, without prejudice to Europe?
    If they don’t pay, they’ll turn it off anyway, so Europe’s time to think about it, winter is not behind the holes, but we also need to create a reserve that is practically absent !!! Or we’ll have to continue to sponsor the free gas of the Nazis! They’ll freeze in the geyrop direct pay directly is also an option, but in general, it's time to tame them! am
    1. +3
      1 June 2014 08: 15
      And with what fright we should be worried about the problems of Europe, they did not really reckon with us when handing out cookies on the Maidan. What we wanted, we got it!
  28. Ivan 63
    +6
    1 June 2014 08: 03
    There was already an article about military cooperation and I wrote that we would either have to return the territories, or do everything ourselves, because to have confidence in Ukrainians to the same controlled from the Washington Regional Committee is either self-deception, or a crime and unwillingness to see the obvious. But what with regards to the "return" of technology, all the more so at this moment, is a spit at the people of both Russia and Novorossia, yesterday they showed an interview with Kadyrov where he simply answered various questions and said about gas that he would have shut it off for a long time and completely (though he is not burdened with the presidential power) but he is sure that this is the only way to deal with boors, in a normal society they beat their faces like that.
  29. tnship2
    +11
    1 June 2014 08: 06
    Like a textbook, everything. Refusal from industry. Fragmented population. Newcomers for natives. Ukraine is falling according to the toughest scenario.
  30. +4
    1 June 2014 08: 06
    The USSR learned the lessons of the Second World War and, in particular, the Great Patriotic War. Any weapons were produced at two or four factories, and in case of war, there were still canned production. This is of course ineffective in a peaceful market economy, but much more effective in times of war.
  31. +3
    1 June 2014 08: 11
    Maybe that's right. Close deliveries through Ukraine if they do not pay. Let Europe be content with the northern stream until it is sober from the State Department dope.
  32. +11
    1 June 2014 08: 15
    dill will soon run out of slingshots. and their leader, coconuts in general, the army was created from what it was.
    These horror stories about amermmy immediately raise doubts about several points:

    why is the “best army in the world” defeated by the mujahideen in Afghanistan, the fedains in Iraq and the Somali gangs?
    why US special forces constantly lose in defensive battles (the question arises - can they defend their territory when an external enemy attacks it?);
    how often, upon hearing the latest information about the US developing a new superweapon, in reality everything turns out to be a myth?
    the US military-industrial complex, under the guise of new weapons, has long been supplying only improved (modified) equipment already in service with the US Army;
    The U.S. Army mainly replenishes its ranks at the expense of migrants (they are promised a residence permit and money), mercenaries from other countries, as well as US citizens who hope to receive grants from the state in the form of free training, housing, etc.

    Therefore, the American army completely lacks such concepts as morale, motivation for self-sacrifice.


    http://ru-an.info/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8/%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BC%
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  33. 0
    1 June 2014 08: 16
    Quote: suomi42
    Maybe that's right. Close deliveries through Ukraine if they do not pay. Let Europe be content with the northern stream until it is sober from the State Department dope.

    But ordinary people will suffer first and foremost .. In Ukraine, there are many relatives with us. It’s not humane ..
    1. +4
      1 June 2014 15: 36
      Quote: MIKHAN
      But ordinary people will suffer first of all.

      About ordinary people (I mean, "the people") Let the drivers and leaders of the maydown think with their hands. They were elected for this and seized power.! Or is it to be closer to the trough and snatch more on occasion?
      "Every nation is worthy of the government that it has" (K. Marx)
      And on an empty stomach and with an unheated apartment, enlightenment comes faster.
      Only we need in advance information attack start, and not when the Ukrainian media in all mortal sins again accused Putin and mos.kaley damned, and their Natsik and Banderlog again will be white and fluffy!
      Is our government should consider dill leaders (not the people of Ukraine) as enemies and deal with them accordingly.
      In war, as in war! What do you think? IMHO.
  34. +17
    1 June 2014 08: 16
    Previously, the Ukrainian language was treated exactly like any other foreign language, but now with the sounds of the Mova it starts to twitch in the nervous tic of the eyes and I want to throw something heavy. And erysipelas in Zhovtoblakitny stands cause a persistent vomiting reflex.
    1. +2
      1 June 2014 08: 59
      Aristarkh, may the people of Ukraine forgive me! Yesterday I caught myself thinking when I saw a Ukrainian flag on the car panel, that such flags on armored vehicles conducting "ATO" in the southeast and somehow it was not "nice". Associations with the colors of the flags, the tricolor of Novorossia is our own, the zhovto-blocky is not ours. I did not say enemies, well, something like that. What is it for?! request
    2. +1
      1 June 2014 15: 44
      Quote: STEALS
      now with the sounds of mova it starts to twitch in the nervous tic of the eyes and I want to throw something heavy.

      Did you go to the doctors? Not!? highly recommend!
      Quote: STEALS
      . And erysipelas in Zhovtoblakitny stands cause a persistent vomiting reflex.

      Well, what are you, my dear! Do not hold back the "beautiful desires of the soul"! If you can't get hold of the protesters, blot at least the box - it will feel better! I tell you exactly - it will feel better!
      Well, if this doesn’t help, sign up for volunteers! True, we need combat experience of participating in hot spots, and of age, respectively.
  35. +5
    1 June 2014 08: 21
    Whatever the child is amusing, just not crying, they do not release paid products for evil negative, as in kindergarten, hoopoes do not know what the hell. You already type in your mouth and spit in us. And we continue to lend them gas. And all the chains of the military-industrial complex must already be produced in Russia, this is independence and security.
  36. Chuykov
    +3
    1 June 2014 08: 21
    I just read about the Kharkov Tank Plant, this PARASHAenko was killing him even at the time of Yanyka, but now there’s a complete blank check ...
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  38. +6
    1 June 2014 08: 27
    and we give them gas for free and want to give another discount. In general, everything needs to be closed.
  39. +8
    1 June 2014 08: 30
    All specialists of the Ukrainian defense plants should be offered a job in Russia. Yes, and the technology should be tightened.
  40. +10
    1 June 2014 08: 34
    In fact, the customs have already accumulated goods, in most cases paid and advanced up to 80 percent, which we cannot receive "
    Ukraine cannot pay for gas, or does not want to. Now the equipment has slowed down. For it you need to turn the money, and even a rather big detachment. They probably finally broke the tower with the help of the Americans. They probably think that it’s so easy to get away with it, and the demon-like uncle Sam will cover their ass.
    1. +2
      1 June 2014 15: 48
      Quote: Siberian
      They probably think that it’s so easy to get away with it, and the demon-like uncle Sam will cover their ass.
  41. dFG
    +7
    1 June 2014 08: 51
    1,5 billion bucks a year, the money of which the plants lost at once, no one needs the iron sharpened for assembly in the Russian Federation, you can congratulate dill on another victory over its citizens at a price of 1,5 yards
  42. +7
    1 June 2014 08: 53
    Ukrainian parody.urki carry out the will of American idiots.kov.
  43. +4
    1 June 2014 08: 53
    Yes, they have no brains on the economy at all. And how are they going to earn money at all, probably on beer drinks . We will destroy all production, we will leave only chocolates and proud and free will enter the EU.

    Very reminiscent of a monkey sawing a branch on which she herself sits ...
  44. +3
    1 June 2014 09: 07
    If so, it will be difficult, but when was Russia easy? I am sure that all problems will be resolved.
  45. +4
    1 June 2014 09: 08
    Quote: MIKHAN
    But ordinary people will suffer first and foremost .. In Ukraine, there are many relatives with us. It’s not humane ..


    Relatives are sorry. The newly elected president of Ukraine said he refuses to buy gas from Russia because it is expensive. But again, he will steal from the pipe. Russia should not be Mareru Teresa for a non-friendly regime.
    1. 0
      1 June 2014 12: 00
      Quote: suomi42
      Russia should not be Mareru Teresa for a non-friendly regime.

      I shouldn't agree .. (that's just Kiev for us "the mother of Russian cities") How to deal with this?
      1. +8
        1 June 2014 16: 04
        Quote: MIKHAN
        How to deal with this?

        RETURN TO RUSSIAN CITIES, as historically relies! And to end the occupation of banderlog and Natsik.
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    3. +4
      1 June 2014 15: 55
      Quote: suomi42
      But again, he will steal from the pipe.
      Surely there will be where to go. Or maybe they hope that, not being a member of the EEC, Europe will organize gas re-export by it? Then we need to reconsider the price of gas for Europe or, at least, for those countries that really supported the sanctions against us.
    4. 0
      2 June 2014 00: 15
      I agree how many times Russia made concessions, and unfortunately only Kuchma remembered this. And that is not often.
  46. +4
    1 June 2014 09: 10
    How it is necessary not to love your country in order to do such things. And history would not hurt to study - Russia, after the revolution, was already in isolation and became even stronger. Ukrainians, for a long time you will endure power and pid ... owls?
  47. VADEL
    +7
    1 June 2014 09: 13
    I congratulate all children and their parents on the holiday! Tobacco smokers - with "mourning". I have been smoking for over 30 years, I want to quit. I apologize for not being in the subject. winked
  48. +3
    1 June 2014 09: 13
    What nonsense: they will not deliver the "paid product" to us, but we, as "good boys", return everything to them.
    1. +2
      1 June 2014 10: 51
      You can return it to the Donetsk region. For the sake of such a thing, you can prank them
  49. +3
    1 June 2014 09: 13
    It is necessary to transport the specialists of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex to Russia! And enterprises too.
    1. +4
      1 June 2014 09: 16
      It is better to include these enterprises in Russia, together with the regions on whose lands they are located)))
  50. +6
    1 June 2014 09: 22
    Looking at the actions of the Ukrainian government in the beginning, he giggled, then laughed, and now it becomes scary from the idiocy and inadequacy of these.
    What else will come up wassat
    1. 0
      3 June 2014 22: 57
      Quote: Grigorievich
      and now it’s getting scary from the idiocy and inadequacy of these.
      The idiocy in skillful hands is always terrible.
  51. +8
    1 June 2014 09: 27
    The Americans have completely seized power in Dill. This is now a “Banana” country that they can “have” as they want. Therefore, now everything that can harm RUSSIA will be used. Most likely they will stop gas transit, since this is beneficial to the Americans.
    We need to stop talking about a “brotherly” country, since it is now actually “occupied” by the United States, and switch to “purely” pragmatic relations.
    Do not recognize Poroshenko as president, The entire Junta is subject to the Tribunal, Gas is only for money, Introduce visas! (pass without visas only for residents of the DPR, by the way, it’s time for the DPR to introduce their passports!), returning military equipment is completely stupid - we give them all sorts of weapons and we also spend our money on transportation fool . Start supplying weapons to the DPR (calling them Non-lethal weapons - so that no one flies wink )
    The sooner Dill collapses economically and politically, the sooner this crisis can be resolved.
    1. +1
      1 June 2014 16: 19
      Quote: Aleksey11
      This is now a “Banana” country that they can “have” as they want. That's why

      Yes, unfortunately, today's situation reminds me of "Waiting for Happiness" - now they will come... and fuck you!
      (I apologize to the ladies of the site for the picture)
  52. Argyn-suindyk
    +3
    1 June 2014 09: 28
    Are you morons? Will pensions be given out in chocolate? Let this equipment now be supplied to Papua New Guinea! You might think that this is such an impossible task for the military-industrial complex?! Yes, supplies will be disrupted, yes, it’s high-tech, but it’s not lethal or fatal and it will take time and money. Design developments and operating principles are not super secret, and the military-industrial complex is able to organize and establish this production. But whether the Ukrainians will be able to establish their economic ties is a big question, because everyone already stepped on such a rake in the 90s! Well, there’s nothing, after all, “Roshen” and geyropa promised to help!
    1. +2
      1 June 2014 09: 42
      I wish you health Sultan! Well, these are our Ukrainian neighbors, they are their own g.a.d.y.t. and we are also to blame. These are primarily problems of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. They don't want to, they don't need to. Thanks to Nazarbayev, first of all, and Lukashenko. We are even closer and it makes us happy! drinks
  53. 0
    1 June 2014 09: 37
    Goodbye to the Ukrainian military-industrial complex. This will make it worse for anyone.
  54. +1
    1 June 2014 09: 42
    Yes, some kind of propaganda and provocative article... According to my information, everything is going as usual for now, although there are glitches. And then, who knows.
    VVP is very sensitive to this, and if it were as written in the article, he would have come forward in person a long time ago...
    1. avt
      +1
      1 June 2014 10: 04
      Quote: Barracuda
      VVP is very sensitive to this, and if it were as written in the article, he would have come forward in person a long time ago...

      Quite a bit. You just missed it, back in March, when the Banderlogs were just announced, a serious meeting was held at the GDP, the beginning was even broadcast on TV. So Borisov comments on the “interim results” of the Kyiv decision since March, announces the dynamics of the delivery of paid orders. But the prospects for the military-industrial complex in Ukraine.... request not joyful.
      1. +3
        1 June 2014 10: 19
        I didn't miss it. Saw this. Banderlogs were only announced then, but did nothing. And the military-industrial complex of Ukraine is Karachun without Russia, that’s true.
        1. 0
          2 June 2014 00: 28
          Yes, 10 strongholds will not save our military-industrial complex.
  55. +1
    1 June 2014 09: 58
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Quote: suomi42
    Maybe that's right. Close deliveries through Ukraine if they do not pay. Let Europe be content with the northern stream until it is sober from the State Department dope.

    But ordinary people will suffer first and foremost .. In Ukraine, there are many relatives with us. It’s not humane ..


    Why are these relatives sitting and chewing snot? They are deprived of a piece of bread, but what do they do? Are they sitting at home?))) You don’t have the fortitude to fight near Slavyansk, so on a dark night break Pravosek’s head))) if you think that warriors are people? forced)))
    1. 0
      1 June 2014 13: 48
      Quote: Egor69
      Why are these relatives sitting and chewing snot? They are deprived of a piece of bread, but what do they do? Are they sitting at home?))) You don’t have the fortitude to fight near Slavyansk, so on a dark night break Pravosek’s head))) if you think that warriors are people?

      This is how we are, alas.. we’re sitting waiting for something.. And if we get up, then s... and you’ll squeal! The squeal will be like a dog that was just kicked so as not to yap..... Believe me Egor (or whatever you call it), the squeal will come soon.. don’t be offended.. We got all the bedding..! bully
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  56. Anton-sed
    +2
    1 June 2014 10: 00
    Thank you dill, no one has ever given so many kicks to the Russian, flaccid, ass. It is necessary to use inertial movement to create your own enterprises.
  57. maxim1
    0
    1 June 2014 10: 10
    Quote: Queen
    Ukraine cuts again and again the branch on which it sits.

    A chant for the National Guard, for maydauns, a patter for Ukrainian deputies:
    The bitch bitch cut down the sitting branch
  58. +1
    1 June 2014 10: 17
    Quote: Anton-Sed
    Do you think the chassis and engine will not be able to do? For rockets, what’s the problem? 50 Billion a year, how many factories and research institutes can be built ?!
    And it’s time for the Ukrainian leaders to turn on their head.

    These are the occupiers, their only task is to play a dirty trick on Russia, if at the same time the economy of Ukraine will be destroyed even better. They will pursue the same policy as in our other former republics, they will destroy industry. If you look at it without bias, then Ukraine is now occupied by the EU and the fighters, they are spreading misinformation for stupid people, and well, who is to blame? That's right - "maskala"
  59. +1
    1 June 2014 10: 19
    It’s just great that they brought back the military representatives. Finally, the hacks will be pinned down and normal, proven equipment will begin to arrive. good
  60. 0
    1 June 2014 10: 28
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    n believes that such a policy will primarily hit Ukrainian enterprises, which will find it difficult to find other markets to sell their products. At the same time, the Deputy Minister of Defense is confident that despite some difficulties, Russian enterprises will successfully cope with this challenge. “We have to reconsider almost all positions across the entire depth of cooperation. You can’t transfer an aircraft without a landing gear,” he explained and recalled that the annual volume of supplies to Russia of products from Ukrainian defense industry enterprises is about 50 billion rubles.


    and they give us money for gas.
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  63. dFG
    +1
    1 June 2014 10: 36
    Quote: sub307
    What nonsense: they will not deliver the "paid product" to us, but we, as "good boys", return everything to them.

    returning this is the only right decision, the equipment has been without maintenance for more than 20 years... major repairs are too expensive to dispose of, too, money must be invested so let the Ukrainians themselves suffer
  64. +5
    1 June 2014 10: 48
    The news is sad, since we are heavily dependent on Ukrainian factories (almost all helicopter engines, heavy missiles from Yuzhmash, etc.), but this is exactly what the Americans wanted, seeing Russia’s growing defense capability. By and large, all the fuss in Ukraine was started for this purpose.
  65. +3
    1 June 2014 10: 58
    Moreover, there is nothing to leave - the best weapons were produced in 1989. Our military is gradually returning this entire arsenal to the Ukrainians.
    Get hurt! They repair it in Kharkov and send it to shoot at Slavyansk! Or they could take them out and give them to the militia!
  66. +1
    1 June 2014 10: 58
    Quote: Nikoha.2010
    Associations with the colors of the flags, the tricolor of Novorossiya is ours, the yellow blockade is not ours. I didn’t say enemies, but something like this. What is it for?!

    This immunity is developed against infection!
  67. 0
    1 June 2014 11: 04
    request They decided that the civil war in the Donbass and Lugansk region was not enough and decided to involve ALL of Novorossia, throwing thousands of unemployed people onto the streets. For industry, this is a crossbow. What the European Union has been striving for for a long time and what should have happened slowly under the Euro-association, the Kyiv paratroopers-Banderlogs decided to do at once! Oh... amazing! How their US guys hold them by the balls!
    This is what both Europe and the US wanted. The hungrier the people, the easier it is to make a slave out of them and put them under arms.
    1. 0
      2 June 2014 00: 34
      Then they’ll start shooting at the enslavers, and then go where it’s supposed to be better. What will the EU do then if refugees with weapons come towards them??
  68. 0
    1 June 2014 11: 10
    Raises doubts. Yuri Borisov is not the person who oversees the heavy lifting. military-industrial complex industry.

    November 15, 2012 - Vladimir Putin appointed Yuri Borisov Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation. Under Borisov's leadership, the ministry developed a strategy for the development of the radio-electronic industry and a corresponding federal target program.

    Russia has no interests in radio electronics in Ukraine. Military electronics are well developed in Belarus. And optics.
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  70. 0
    1 June 2014 11: 31
    They have deprived themselves of a stable sales market for the defense industry, will stop production and add to the unemployment rate. Damn Pinocchio.
  71. +3
    1 June 2014 11: 31
    Quote: Jurkovs
    Yes, come on, you remember Ukraine. The USA is fighting openly against Russia, using the resources and manpower of Ukraine. They don't give a damn about Ukraine, just like the Ukrainians themselves.

    I already posted it, well, here it’s just under the “post”.
  72. +1
    1 June 2014 11: 40
    “Since March, regulations have been issued in Ukraine that prohibit the supply of weapons, military equipment and components to enterprises of the Russian defense industry. In fact, cargo has already accumulated at customs, in most cases paid and advanced up to 80 percent, which we cannot receive.”

    Return the money and pay the fines, that's all...Yes, don't forget to apply for unemployment benefits for your citizens...
  73. +1
    1 June 2014 11: 41
    They drive the last nail into the cover of the Coffin of the Ukrainian economy ... The LATEST high-tech enterprises will stand up !!!

    Agree. I dare to make a number of small clarifications. To begin with, let’s assume the worst - the junta (or whoever replaces it) retained power and dragged Ukraine “from Europe.” Then questions arise:
    1. Who in Europe (and especially in the States) needs these enterprises as potential competitors to THEIR OWN HIGH-TECH ENTERPRISES? Therefore, they need to be removed from the road, and the sooner the better.
    2. Among the Ukrainian oligarchs (as well as among ours) are there those who made money from the products of these enterprises? No, they are all typical grabbers - “grabbers”, raw materials producers and compradors. They sneezed at the Antonov Design Bureau and at Yuzhmash and at everything else with a whistle.
    3. The junta in power, in order to stretch out an extra day, will do something else, since they have already begun to dismantle the dead “right-wingers” for organs.
    4. “Broad Ukrainians” don’t care at all - just look at the faces of the Maidan activists here on the website. Hereditary Kurkuli have an ideal - a vegetable garden and a barn with a wild boar, no matter what it is in the middle of Kyiv. And their greasy scruff prevents them from looking at the stars all their lives...
    Conclusion: the fluffy polar animal is already on its way to Ukraine. I think there is almost nothing that can be done. Unless to help at least some of the valuable specialists leave for Russia. Yes, make sure that the local bureaucrats are treated humanely, and not as usual.
    1. Polarfox
      +1
      2 June 2014 05: 28
      Quote: voveim
      the fluffy polar animal is already on its way to Ukraine

      Yes, here I am, here. I already told you. And I’m in Ukraine too. :)

      Quote: voveim
      Who in Europe (and especially in the States) needs these enterprises as potential competitors to THEIR OWN HIGH-TECH ENTERPRISES? Therefore, they need to be removed from the road, and the sooner the better.

      Exactly. That’s why the ban came about, at the suggestion of “interested parties.” In general, my opinion is this: Ukraine is of interest to the EU only as an agricultural raw material appendage. The land in Ukraine is good, in some places the quality level is up to 50 points. For comparison: in the virgin regions of Kazakhstan there are usually 15-20 on average. Plus cheap labor. And, of course, a gas pipe. Europe needs nothing more from Ukraine. It is Ukraine that amuses itself with stupid speculations that Europe needs a democratic Ukraine, and that the Ukrainians themselves are of some value to the European Union. Present. But not at all humanitarian, as they think, but purely utilitarian. Like a herd of working oxen that goes crazy and goes crazy and falls back into the yoke.
  74. 0
    1 June 2014 11: 50
    The rulers of the outskirts are successfully dragging the country into the same chaos that we had in the early 90s. Well, good luck in your endeavors. I think more than one Maidan will remain independent. "Democracy" however. I feel sorry for people.
  75. +1
    1 June 2014 11: 56
    As of June, supreme control in the UN passes to Russia.
    Great of course..! It really won’t be of much use..(well, at least we’ll troll the “sleeping hares”)))
  76. +1
    1 June 2014 12: 04
    The best way out of this situation is to stupidly squeeze out Kharkov. The people there were active. The fact that the protest has now been suppressed does not mean that it does not exist. And then Novorossia will have a good plus for the economy...
  77. 0
    1 June 2014 12: 09
    Ukraine has stopped supplying military equipment to the Russian Federation. ...such a policy will primarily hit Ukrainian enterprises, which will find it difficult to find other markets to sell their products.


    To spite my wife, I'll give myself frostbite!
  78. 0
    1 June 2014 12: 29
    In the current Ukrainian junta, it seems that only you have gathered. By severing economic ties with Russia, including in the military-industrial complex, they doom themselves to the rapid disappearance of the entire Ukrainian economy. This happens only because Uncle Sam demands it. But even then they would have agreed with the evil Yankees and the G-ropa that they would then support the Ukrainian people, many of whom are so eager to join the EU, feed, drink and entertain. But the junta has no such agreements with the West. How do they plan to live further? Or again they intend to milk Russia, they say the neighbor will take pity on the starving people and it will be business as usual again. And the newly elected Powder probably thinks so.
  79. 0
    1 June 2014 12: 36
    Securing the pipeline and injection stations. West, ah... In your own interests.
  80. 0
    1 June 2014 12: 38
    Quote: nycsson
    Quote: MIKHAN
    And our gas is pumped for free .. The highest degree of arrogance and betrayal ..!

    Quote: MIKHAN
    And they tell us about discounts

    Laughing out loud! laughing How do people say ?! L.O.H. - this is destiny! wassat

    In vain rejoice ..
    “Do not hope that once taking advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed that supposedly defend you. They are not worth the paper they are written on. Therefore, it is worth playing with Russians either playing honestly or not playing at all. ”O. Bismarck
    1. +1
      1 June 2014 13: 08
      It sounds nice, but it's fake. You will not find a link to the original source in German.
      1. -1
        1 June 2014 13: 39
        Quote: north
        It sounds nice, but it's fake. You will not find a link to the original source in German.

        Yes, it seems beautiful and correct. Russia usually doesn’t know how to speak (judging by our history..we usually act)...What do I see liberals on the wave of today?..
        1. 0
          2 June 2014 00: 38
          The Russians take a long time to harness, but they travel quickly - Bismarck.
  81. 0
    1 June 2014 12: 46
    Quote: Irokez

    This is not so critical in the short-term period, but in the long-term we will immediately begin to develop and do it - safety is above all, and also jobs and independence.
    It seems that cooling with Ukraine is rebuilding Russia and makes it even more powerful and independent. And whoever creates this cooling is either the Russian agent or Obama.

    That's right! What doesn't kill us makes us stronger angry
  82. 0
    1 June 2014 12: 51
    “It is expected that the main components of the initiative will be deeply modified intercontinental ballistic missiles and hypersonic cruise missiles.”

    Well, the USA REFUSED ITS NUCLEAR WEAPONS. They are converting their Minuteman-3 missiles, which are the main and only ground-based ICBMs, into non-nuclear missiles. This is called “putting a good face on a bad game” - the United States has not produced nuclear warheads for a long time. In the United States, the entire military nuclear industry has degraded - rusty submarines, flightless ICBMs (We cannot compare with Proton. Proton is a civilian rocket.), there is not even a program for modernizing the existing nuclear arsenal. And now the result: they pulled out nuclear warheads from their ICBMs, installed conventional ones and called it: weapons based on new physical principles and declared that they had the ability to use a “Prompt Global Strike”. In the event of an attack on Russia, the United States fires conventional NON-NUCLEAR ballistic missiles at Russia, and Russia fires NUCLEAR missiles in response. So who is the superpower?


    About the state of US nuclear forces. This is why the Americans are promoting their missile defense system with such fury.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkk0X99WSgo
  83. 0
    1 June 2014 12: 54
    This is another argument in favor of the fact that weapons should be produced at home in RUSSIA. And whoever shouted the most about purchasing weapons abroad should demand either the weapons we purchased or the return of the money they spent on these purchases. If the money is not returned, then complete confiscation of property from them, their children and grandchildren. It will be fair and just. And if you don’t agree, let them demand money for the confiscation of property from those countries where they have placed orders for weapons. Then it will be fair! And others like him (smart guys) will immediately shut up and no one else will ever raise this topic. good
    1. Metal bro
      +1
      1 June 2014 14: 48
      So apparently they couldn’t make normal helicopter engines, they were worthless since they decided to buy good engines from Ukraine. Do you think now that you can easily and quickly do something that you couldn’t do before?
  84. KALININGRAD
    -4
    1 June 2014 13: 03
    SEND EVERYONE TO ....Y, listen to no one and boldly occupy Khokhland, arrest all the hunters
    1. +1
      1 June 2014 14: 04
      Quote: KALININGRAD
      SEND EVERYONE TO ....Y, listen to no one and boldly occupy Khokhland, arrest all the hunters

      Well done.! provocateur minus you..!
  85. 0
    1 June 2014 13: 14
    Quote: andr1966a
    Quote: MIKHAN
    And our gas is pumped for free .. The highest degree of arrogance and betrayal ..!

    try not to pay us for gas, so the gas workers will cut off without any negotiations, and then they will also bill for the additional connection. With us we can be ours, we are Russians

    I’m talking about this too..(they treat us harshly if anything happens..) It’s a shame, Eshkin’s cat..
  86. +1
    1 June 2014 14: 00
    Quote: MIKHAN
    And our gas is pumped for free .. The highest degree of arrogance and betrayal ..!

    Our GazProm is cool and eloquent, but not everything is so simple if they can’t close the valve.
  87. 0
    1 June 2014 14: 18
    Quote: Tor Hummer
    You are a funny man, "Ukrainian technology" is not critical at all.

    Unfortunately, there is still a need for it. Complete replacement of dill products has not yet been achieved. Helicopter engines, the rocket industry...in total, orders from the Russian defense industry were carried out by more than 200 enterprises.
    We built one plant for the production of engines. The second one seems to be under construction... but from now on it’s science! Everything for our Armed Forces must be produced only in Russia.
    How the country of dill and lard is going to live is beyond reason. China demands debts of three billion greenbacks, they owe gas, failure to fulfill supply contracts will also require a lot of money in the form of fines, and no one will let their products into Western markets. The IMF is owed, the Eurobonds have not been paid...
    But this is a consequence. And the cause must be extinguished, the puppeteers. That's where all the rotten stuff comes from.
  88. 0
    1 June 2014 14: 19
    Quote: Legionnaire14
    Quote: MIKHAN
    And our gas is pumped for free .. The highest degree of arrogance and betrayal ..!

    Our GazProm is cool and eloquent, but not everything is so simple if they can’t close the valve.

    There are a lot of ours...simple!
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      1 June 2014 21: 26
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Quote: Legionnaire14
      Quote: MIKHAN
      And our gas is pumped for free .. The highest degree of arrogance and betrayal ..!

      Our GazProm is cool and eloquent, but not everything is so simple if they can’t close the valve.

      There are a lot of ours...simple!

      Something else struck me: I didn’t pay for the phone on time. Not only is it a week without a phone, but the invoice for this period indicates “lost profits” and a figure at a steeper rate!
  89. Mister anderson
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    1 June 2014 15: 11
    They are impenetrable fool I work for a shipbuilding (civilian) company, so... There is already an unspoken decision of the management from dill not to purchase any components, although they were according to the project. The designer had to finalize the design of the ship and that’s it, screw you guys. Moreover, this situation is not only in our company; many of our colleagues in the “shop” do the same. So, who harmed whom... Grandma said in two... wink
  90. 0
    1 June 2014 15: 43
    for equipment not received, extract money or seize Ukrainian accounts abroad, you can take away the equipment by force - there are a billion options - the main thing is to act and not cry
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  92. +6
    1 June 2014 20: 19
    Quote: brelok
    UKROINA LOSES 2 BILLION BUCKS! FOR BANKRUPT TOP IDIOTISM!

    And for I D I O T O V - this is not the limit wassat
  93. 0
    1 June 2014 21: 42
    "Ukraine has stopped supplying military equipment to the Russian Federation"

    Ukraine flogged itself, and Russia “burst into tears.”
  94. 0
    1 June 2014 22: 15
    So what's the problem? They don’t want to send the manufactured goods, for which 80% of the contract has already been paid? Let them return the money plus fines, sanctions are also certainly provided for.
  95. Vyacheslav0206
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    1 June 2014 22: 17
    Well, the steps in general could have been predicted. After all, the junta declared war on Russia a long time ago. They did everything against and not to meet. We observe the steps after the CRIMEA 1 The canal water gave money, which we see, contrary to all the agreements and common sense, the water was cut off, Russia was not at a loss, but quickly threw it away makeshift 2.Orders of the Russian military-industrial complex have long been tied to Ukraine, the cities of the south-east are dependent on orders from Russia for which they were consistently paid, and again only a crazy person cuts off the hand of the giver, but no, NEW UKRAINE HAS THE NORMAL!! So I think at this rate what they will refuse and, trying to spoil, they will spoil for themselves .In general, the authorities have no logic, but I’m not looking for it because they can play out the Georgian option. Russia will tolerate and then simply pick up and close not only the gas tap, but also close the border with a decree of monthly expulsion of citizens home. And as soon as this happens, the junta will die I’ll drive to Poland. After all, now, just to avoid getting caught, many fled with the thought of being trampled. But the mass of refugees and simply the departure of people from Ukraine is growing and will grow in light of the reduction in places. And all these supply failures contribute to this.
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    1 June 2014 23: 32
    Excuse me, they’ve been building a helicopter engine plant near St. Petersburg for about a year now—is it a quirk of mine or not? transport specialists from Ukraine? Yes they are happy! Technology has long been stolen. Machines are not a problem. We need POLITICAL will!
  97. 0
    1 June 2014 23: 41
    By the way - off topic - Russian Railways have lost a lot - due to the law banning smoking on trains - they won’t see me twice a year anymore - fuck them and not my money - disrespect costs a lot - I’ll go to my grandchildren by car. And I think there are even more than a million of them. I agreed to pay for the smoking carriage - like before the revolution - and for the laundry. shower and bar on the Moscow-Vladivostok train.
  98. 0
    2 June 2014 04: 22
    I just read an article that discusses important events related to the abolition of the dollar as the currency of mutual settlements between China and Japan, China and Russia. Then, I read this article about the cancellation of supplies from Ukraine, and connected the two with each other. Refusal from the dollar is a very powerful weapon against the United States. But what does Ukraine have to do with it, anyone may ask themselves? The fact is that, strange as it may seem, Ukraine today is the transmission line in the confrontation with the unfair dominance of America in the field of world finance. Not Syria, but Ukraine. If Ukraine, as a systemic entity, collapses, then this means a complete failure not so much of Europe, but of the United States in this project. I apologize in advance to the people of Ukraine who wish peace and prosperity. Sorry, people, but you yourself opened the doors and windows to the enemy. A refusal to supply to Russia any products previously agreed upon in joint projects can be used for the next, very “peaceful” step.
    The first is to stand your ground on the gas. Without deviating one iota from the price and conditions.
    Second, the completely abandon hired labor from Ukraine. Up to visa restrictions! Why? Because only through the hands of the Ukrainians themselves can fair pressure in all respects be exerted on their “chosen ones.” Through the hands of mercenary forces comes practical support for a country that, by all measures, is now hostile and “pro-American.” A phased refusal of Ukrainian products will pit Ukraine against the EU - someone will have to “inflate” it. And they hadn’t bought it there before. Where should they start today? Out of solidarity?
    Thirdly, establish economic contacts with Novorossiya as soon as it becomes possible to control the border with Russia. This means that this is one of the next tasks. Immediately after solving the problem of military containment of the junta. Not a victory, which would be good, but unlikely. Namely, absolute deterrence. Humanitarian assistance to the population must be replaced by economic assistance as quickly as possible.
    So whether Ukraine supplies anything now or not is no longer important. May be painful for some Russian enterprises, but only temporarily. Next time, contractors will be more politically astute...
    At the same time, American enterprises cannot be allowed into the Ukrainian economy. But here, excuse me, I have such a desire, in the absence of any ideas on how to practically implement this.
  99. 0
    2 June 2014 05: 22
    Already paid and advanced cargo is standing at the border. The favorite pastime of the great ukrov is theft and scam. Right now they will start sucking gas for free. I remember 2008 - “Here’s free gas for you!” Said Fradkov, farting at the Ukrainian Embassy.....
  100. Most kind
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    2 June 2014 05: 54
    Damn, the most important thing is Satan!!! If the documentation gets to the pi... (most likely it has already gotten there) .... They will exchange ours... :) for others... Which ones? knows he will be shot... :)