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Why, why didn’t we listen to the Eastern Europeans? ("Politico", USA)

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Why, why didn’t we listen to the Eastern Europeans? ("Politico", USA)The author of the article, American journalist Edward Lucas, writes about what the Western Europe ignored the anxieties and problems of Eastern Europe. In the current situation, according to Lucas, many states have become disillusioned with NATO and are looking for new ways of self-organization to counter Russian aggression.


Eastern Europe is not a geographic region. This is a collection of worries and anxieties. During the Cold War, these were the enslaved countries of the Soviet empire. Some of them despised the label "Eastern" (the Czechoslovak capital Prague is located hundreds of kilometers west of such "western" capitals as Helsinki, Vienna and Athens). Some felt deceived after the West at Yalta agreed to give back to Eastern Europe and did nothing to prevent the invasion of Soviet troops in Hungary and Czechoslovakia.

When the Berlin Wall fell, the alarms changed. How quickly can the “new Europe” integrate into the “old Europe”? Will democracy take root there, will capitalism work in full force? Will the former countries of the Soviet bloc ever catch up with the more fortunate half of the continent?

After the financial crisis, these anxieties and fear of being left to the mercy of fate somewhat subsided. First, it became clear that the “transitional economies” from the “east” suffered the storm fairly well. The largest of them - Poland - was the only EU country where there was no recession at all. Secondly, it became clear that the most serious problems threaten other countries: Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece and Cyprus.

But now there are new alarms. This is a frank fear due to the new feeling of betrayal of the West, caused by the Russian seizure of land in Ukraine and the weaknesses of the West that these takeovers have demonstrated. The old conviction of NATO and EU solidarity in the eyes of those countries that were most at risk was put to the most serious test. Someone secretly thinks about new relationships on regional security issues and on agreements to deter the Russian threat. The Nordefco Scandinavian defense cooperation organization, which includes non-NATO members Sweden and Finland, is gaining weight. It is closely watched by the Baltic countries and Poland, and this organization enjoys the support of America and Britain. Russia, on the contrary, looks at it with great discontent. In a recent commentary published by the official Kremlin news agency RIA News”, States that NATO’s ties with Sweden and Finland are part of a carefully planned“ military blockade of all borders in western Russia. ”

New regional arrangements are perceived ambiguously within NATO, because they are a hint of the shortcomings of the existing system. Turkey sharply objects to any cooperation of the North Atlantic Alliance with countries not entering it, fearing that this will create a precedent for interaction between NATO and Israel. This makes it difficult to carry out such experiments as attempts to attract combat aircraft from Sweden and Finland to patrol the airspace of Iceland, this defenseless member of NATO. Any new agreements and events can best be presented as a supplement to NATO, but the countries involved in them deeply understand that they can be prepared for the role of the application, and in the worst case - a replacement.

The countries of this region, located between the Baltic and Black Seas, have never been optimistic about Russia. Even in Yeltsin's 1990s, when the Kremlin was seemingly a friend and partner of the United States and western Europe, these countries were very worried. They were worried that Russia was using its pipelines to create a patronage system and exert pressure. They noted subtle, and sometimes not very subtle tricks of Russian diplomacy. They noticed how many Russian spies are everywhere, who are active and very effective.

Western countries generally tended to look down on the east and ignore their concerns. Russia does not represent the threat represented by the Soviet Union. So they said in Brussels, London, Paris, Berlin and Washington. It was stupid to pretend that everything is different. The West believed that Eastern Europeans, and especially Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Poles and Czechs, were in pain from their historical experience and were prone to alarmism.

This attitude was preserved in the Putin era. The territorial defense of Europe has become a question, the discussion of which was banned. Moreover, his discussion could put an end to his career. The generally accepted view that Russia does not represent and will not pose any danger has crystallized. It was better for any representative of the bureaucracy, especially from the sphere of foreign policy, security, intelligence and the army, to keep his mouth shut if he thought otherwise. Even when Russia began to turn into an increasingly autonomous and hostile country, the West persisted with its policy. When Vladimir Putin took an openly confrontational position, NATO and the EU continued to insist that everything was fine, and the answer to the Russian growl and mockery should be dialogue and integration, and not confrontation and intimidation.

American policy makers did not notice that the planned missile defense targets in Poland and the Czech Republic against the perceived Iranian threat are extremely important as a symbol of the continued US loyalty to the region. When the Obama administration canceled these plans, making it awkwardly and suddenly on the anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939, it did not seem to understand that the reset of relations with Russia must be tied to a large dose of reassuring reassurance about the US . And since then, she did not understand.

Ignoring Eastern Europe was a mistake not only in a narrow tactical sense (if the allies are treated unceremoniously, they are unlikely to want to shed blood for you and bear costs for you in the future). It was also a mistake because America could learn something from them. Now, Western politicians are reluctant to admit the fact that the panicked Eastern Europeans, who know Russians better than others, have been absolutely right about them all this time. Russia has sharply increased its military spending, which in ten years should almost double in real terms. The Russian economy, despite its corruption, bottlenecks and a weak base, limited by raw materials, has shown that it is surprisingly stable and durable. Russia buys allies and influence in the West, and also promotes the development of interdependence, due to which it becomes difficult to impose serious sanctions against it.

It became a headache for the West. And for Eastern Europeans, this has become a nightmare - after all, Russia is a close neighbor for them and, as they think, a threat to their existence. The first in these ranks are the Poles and Estonians - a sort of new super-hawks in Europe. They are one of the few NATO member countries that spend two percent of their GDP on their defense, as required by the rules of the alliance. They have a serious military potential: Poland has the largest army in the region, and Estonia has the most advanced capabilities in the field of cyber security and intelligence.

They have the darkest analytical assessments regarding the intentions and plans of the Putin regime, which are clearly formulated by Estonian President Toomas Hendrik Ilves and Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski. Repression and aggression create a vicious circle. Putin distracts public opinion from the failures and failures of his regime, from his inability to provide people with modern state services, decent infrastructure and steady growth, pursuing an adventurous policy abroad. He is driven by a deep-rooted sense of injustice, both from the collapse of the Soviet Union and from the behavior of the West after that. He feels weaknesses within the EU and NATO, and understands that they can be exploited at minimal cost to themselves.

To encroach on the territorial integrity of Ukraine was unexpectedly easy and simple. The West has come to terms with the annexation of Crimea, despite the fact that these actions are a flagrant violation of international law and international human rights standards. Religious freedoms, rights of the Crimean Tatars and other allegedly sacred principles of the European security system after 1991, were torn to shreds. In the reaction of the West there were many beautiful gestures, but few actions on the merits. The Kremlin learned a lesson that the West is not ready to bear serious economic losses, say, from canceling defense orders from Russia (France is building two warships for it), or because Russian companies are deprived of access to international capital markets in London and New York.

It also became a frightening lesson for other countries, along with Poland and Estonia. Latvians and Lithuanians have much in common historical memories of annexation, deportation and repression. However, their authorities were much weaker than Tallinn and Warsaw. Latvia and Lithuania spend on defense only one percent of GDP. Their economy, like politics, is weaker than Estonian. The media in both countries are under intense Russian pressure. Latvian non-citizens, the 400 Soviet-era migrants who remained in this country after the collapse of the Soviet Union, are indifferent at best to their new home, and at worst, discontent and annoyance. This gives the Kremlin a ton of opportunities for waging an information war and carrying out provocations. (There are far fewer non-citizens in Estonia).

In Lithuania, there is another problem: a disgruntled and alien Polish minority that has entered into an alliance with a small pro-Kremlin-minded Russian population. The authors of nationalist rhetoric in Lithuania treat local Poles as impolite Lithuanians, who need, even by force, to return national traditions and culture. Naturally, many Poles do not like it very much.

An additional vulnerability for Poland and Lithuania is created by the Kaliningrad enclave - an exclusively militarized region of Russia (part of the former East Prussia). Military strategists are worried that a small 100-kilometer Polish-Lithuanian border can easily be cut as a result of a joint operation from the territory of the Kaliningrad Region and Belarus (it is in close military alliance with Russia). In this case, the Baltic countries will be cut off from their NATO allies. Even worse, it can be costly for Poland. The current NATO plans provide that Poland in the event of a crisis will strengthen and support the Baltic states, and Poland will be strengthened and supported by other NATO countries. Now Poland still believes that such help will come.

If you move further south, the picture will become even darker. The leaders of the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary simply do not share the anxiety of their Polish and Baltic colleagues. They have no desire to increase military spending (in all three countries, they are equal to or less than one percent of GDP). They do not want to bear the economic burden of sanctions (to which Poland and the Baltic countries fully agree). In Russia, they see mostly favorable business opportunities. Mysterious commercial-political alliances with the involvement of Russia have become an integral and very disturbing feature of life in the Czech Republic. And Hungary is buying a new nuclear power plant in Russia.

Together with Austria and Bulgaria, Hungary also stands for the construction of a gas pipeline from Russia called the South Stream. As a result, they will become less dependent on unreliable gas transit from the territory of Ukraine. However, this will not help European diversification and reduce the overall dependence of the continent on Russian energy supplies. The European Commission sharply warned Bulgaria that this pipeline, which Gazprom will own and operate, is a violation of European rules. Bulgaria no less sharply replied that it did not agree with this.

The main battlefield for European security is not in Ukraine. The problem lies in the EU’s ability to set rules that Gazprom doesn’t like, and in NATO’s ability to protect its weakest members. So far, President Putin believes that he is capable of exerting sufficient political pressure combined with intimidation, bluffing, various tricks and incitement of military hysteria to weaken both the EU and NATO. The new front-line states of Europe will be the first to suffer losses if it turns out to be right. And the options and opportunities they have alarmingly little.
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  1. mirag2
    mirag2 30 May 2014 07: 04
    +8
    Yes, elementary, all Euro-problems due to inequality in the EU itself, at the state level.
    1. maks-101
      maks-101 30 May 2014 07: 09
      +5
      interestingly, the worries in the east are caused by media propaganda.
      1. Polevik
        Polevik 30 May 2014 07: 38
        +19
        Article - Insanity!
        1. afire
          afire 30 May 2014 07: 51
          +2
          this scribe shoots "facts" like a true historian.

          Double deception - history is perverted in their books to the point of madness, on the basis of such a "story" "facts" are created that are impossible not to believe. that's all.
        2. ArhipenkoAndrey
          ArhipenkoAndrey 30 May 2014 08: 22
          +8
          I agree, but the insanity is panicky, he started himself, scared, now there remains a bullet in the forehead and accuse aggressive Russia of murder.
        3. Alez
          Alez 30 May 2014 09: 13
          +3
          An author's article from a sect is onepidors.
        4. tilovaykrisa
          tilovaykrisa 30 May 2014 09: 47
          +2
          author dalpaep.
        5. yushch
          yushch 30 May 2014 11: 02
          +2
          Better this or not this Lucas is shooting the new "Star Wars" :)
        6. operrus
          operrus 30 May 2014 11: 55
          +1
          The article is really insanity, it is full of internal contradictions, all the far-fetched arguments against Russia are one-sided and incorrect to say the least, obviously one author worked out the fee as best he could to the best of his very modest powers.
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 30 May 2014 13: 06
            0
            his forces are not just modest, but surprisingly inhibited. in general, in my opinion, an attempt to deepen the cold war. And especially, it pleased me, and Estonia is distinguished by the most advanced capabilities in the field of cybersecurity and intelligence. well, straight, abwehr,
        7. The comment was deleted.
      2. 222222
        222222 30 May 2014 09: 00
        +1
        the author of tequila re-drunk .. bought for a fee ..
      3. bulvas
        bulvas 30 May 2014 09: 57
        +3
        Quote: maks-xnumx
        interestingly, the worries in the east are caused by media propaganda.



        As always, it all comes down to one thing - an increase in military spending and the purchase of American weapons. We need to sell Ospreys and F-35s, we need to push through missile defense, the arms lobby is putting pressure on the government, and the government is cutting military spending in the United States. Therefore, we need to look for clients abroad.

        So "enemies" appear, in the east - China, in the West - Russia
      4. mishkent
        mishkent 30 May 2014 11: 19
        +1
        Actually, the author is not American, but British PSAKA. And, as you can see, (Edward Lucas - the author of the book "New Cold War"), claims the laurels of his famous compatriot, who introduced the term "cold war" back in 1946.
        Now it remains to wait in the propi ..... DOS media for new hysterical screams: "RUSSIAN THREAT !!!!" instead of something half-forgotten.
    2. MOISEY
      MOISEY 30 May 2014 07: 48
      +1
      That's right, in the EU the extreme manifestation of such democracy as it should be from the point of view of the USA is that the powers that be are elevated to the absolute, and the rest are poor relatives who have no rights.
    3. 222222
      222222 30 May 2014 09: 06
      +1
      class !!! "Yes, elementary, all European problems are due to inequality in the EU itself, at the state level."
      .. Not for that was the 4th Reich built so that there was equality between the EU states .. The founders laid down the principles of the work of all two strong states .. even Great Britain did not enter the Schengen zone or switched to the single European currency Euro, not wanting to work to Germany ..
    4. 222222
      222222 30 May 2014 09: 58
      0
      "BEFORE A NEW WAR
      Europe is fun! Comedy Cast
      war will turn brutal tomorrow
      merry wine burps us with blood,
      and we cross on the fields

      battles of the future, their leaders blasphemy
      for clownish dances, they will be counted,
      that quiet Europe will not return to the harbor,
      and perish in squalid storms without a rudder.

      Europe naked plays the king
      ground floor - shining with diamonds cheater.
      The gallery believes that common sense wakes up
      in the minds of comedians that breaks

      Crazy Farce - A La Tragedy
      Armageddon. What is left for her? "
      (YURI MAKUSINSKY • NOTES OF CITIZEN) http://www.versemaker.ru/
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 30 May 2014 18: 49
        0
        Quote: 222222
        parterre - shining diamonds cheater

        ... stalls - shining with rhinestones shining ...
  2. vjatsergey
    vjatsergey 30 May 2014 07: 06
    +10
    minus the article for a cliche cliché in the West - Russia occupied, Russia annexed, Russia so and so.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 30 May 2014 07: 29
      +1
      Quote: vjatsergey
      minus article for cliched in the west cliche

      Yes, such articles on InoSMI through one, or even more often (from there and taken). What approach did you want in Russia? Money must be worked out by journalism and pseudo-analysts. They try not to print normal, sensible people on the pages of (including electronic) central publications, they convey their thoughts on secondary resources, where the audience is much smaller.
      In the freest country in the world, censorship is worse than Soviet, so you should not be surprised at the content (and not the content) of articles and books am .
    2. Andrenaline
      Andrenaline 30 May 2014 07: 30
      +2
      "Russian aggression" bl. Nobody has gone anywhere yet. I can imagine how they will get lost if we really move west. But America is a bulwark of democracy that has captured half the world. am
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 30 May 2014 07: 38
        +2
        But America is a bastion of democracy that has taken over half the world.

        And isolating Russia from the rest of humanity! ))) And it’s nothing that such agreements were signed over the last month that the United States would swallow antidepressants in batches.
        1. Andrenaline
          Andrenaline 30 May 2014 08: 04
          +2
          laughing from the latest news - US Congressmen asked NATO to buy or lease the Mistrals under construction for Russia. Historical seizures began. They can only put sticks in the wheels laughing
    3. Akvadra
      Akvadra 30 May 2014 07: 30
      0
      In a stranger's eye they see a straw, in their logs they do not notice. Familiar rhetoric. Surprising with this is already difficult. There were many such pearls.
  3. Shadow1
    Shadow1 30 May 2014 07: 07
    +3
    The opinion of the Yankees, as always, is one-sided and biased, and as always, the Russians want to chop off the floor of the geyevropa, but what for we need it, feed them yourself!
  4. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 30 May 2014 07: 07
    +2
    Lucas is a schizophrenic, one thing is strange if he writes books, do you read them? who pays publishers for the circulation of schizophrenic revelations? And another question, who buys and reads such libel?
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 30 May 2014 07: 21
      +1
      Notes of a madman have a rest here !!! Gogol nervously smokes on the sidelines !!
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 30 May 2014 07: 12
    +2
    Even in the Yeltsin 1990s, when the Kremlin seemed to be a friend and partner of the United States and Western Europe, these countries were very worried. They were worried that Russia was using its pipelines to create a system of patronage and pressure

    Just like from a propaganda textbook.
    As a rule, those who do not pay are worried!
  6. Signaller
    Signaller 30 May 2014 07: 13
    0
    There is a good saying in Russia: "The well-fed does not understand the hungry." Never well-fed Geyropa and America will not understand us.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 30 May 2014 18: 51
      0
      Quote: Signaller
      The well-fed Geyropa and America will never understand us.

      Yes, they have "withdrawal", and that's it ...
  7. mig31
    mig31 30 May 2014 07: 15
    +1
    The longer the Russian pause, the more heart-rending cry of the West about the threat from the East is the theater of the absurd!
  8. Wedmak
    Wedmak 30 May 2014 07: 16
    +3
    As it rushes ... And the picture of Russia looms: High fences with a thorn at the top, machine gunners with fighting bears in overcoats and felt boots, and the red burning eyes of Russian barbarians from behind the fence - who would capture?
  9. ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 30 May 2014 07: 16
    +6
    An article of the next nutty Western paranoid, he only talks about the war, the idea that ... I don’t need the Baltic states with Poland in the compartment in Russia, there are hungry people with ambitions, and, thank God, we have enough territories. The author does not even want to imagine that the war in Europe is beneficial only to the United States and Britain, but the owners said not to mention it, he keeps silent that the States are fighting, spreading democracy around the world, because someone’s blood is shed thousands of kilometers from its borders, order the owners of Russia as an aggressor, please. I started talking about Crimea, but didn’t mention that Khrushchev had unlawfully cut him to the outskirts, and the hateful Communists tore him off from Russia and put him to Ukraine - is this not necessary to know? In general, the article is nonsense of the paranoid with the mania of war and the desire for the last time to see how the world will be destroyed.
    1. Flinky
      Flinky 30 May 2014 07: 25
      0
      They are children.
      1. ArhipenkoAndrey
        ArhipenkoAndrey 30 May 2014 08: 12
        +1
        For such dirty tricks, children need to be flogged, or rather, the mind should be taught the mind, so that science goes to good.
  10. polly
    polly 30 May 2014 07: 17
    +1
    "Now Poland still believes that such help will come"
    Still believe? Well, then: hope dies last ... Poor Poland, I'm already crying! crying
  11. rasputin17
    rasputin17 30 May 2014 07: 17
    +1
    Strange however geyropa !!! Recently, everyone who has dill and geyropov have one source of disasters and problems !! And none of them wants to delve into themselves looking for the root of all their problems, it's easier to blame everything on someone and everyone sees Russia in this!
  12. Mihail177
    Mihail177 30 May 2014 07: 19
    0
    Alien koment:
    Stupid Europeans do not understand that with their sanctions they can bring Russia to the point where it will have nothing to lose. And then we will have our hands completely untied. What will happen after? the answer is clear to anyone ...
    Donbass, hold on !!
  13. tormazok
    tormazok 30 May 2014 07: 20
    +1
    Here they write all the dregs. RUSSIA NEVER FIRST ONE FOUND! In all ages, the aggressor has been the west and those with them. And again, all this rot began to stir.
  14. gavr0209
    gavr0209 30 May 2014 07: 21
    +2
    again, all the scruff of the eversion)))
    if nothing comes to mind constructive, you need to be afraid of Russia ?!
    Yes, and to hell with you, fear, it suits us))
  15. San_aa
    San_aa 30 May 2014 07: 24
    +1
    Making a "babayka" out of RUSSIA, the West and the USA are solving their economic problems (expanding sales markets and the market for cheap labor). The West does not need to look for a "scapegoat", but it is necessary to look at him in the mirror and everything will fall into place.
  16. Khalmamed
    Khalmamed 30 May 2014 07: 31
    +4
    ..... Edward Lucas., Apparently with stamped little thoughts, decided to break through on their "king of the hill", a little truth and a lot of blah-blah-blah.
    ..... in the article, the red line indicates that the geytransevrop has the right to demand RUSSIAN gas,
    these homosexuals squeezed the brain well.

    ..... in 1992-93 Kuchma "bought" gas from Turkmenabashi-S. Niyazov .., sits and waits, but there is no gas, when he came to the dismantling, it turned out that the pipe ends at the border with Turkmenistan and Russia and according to eyewitnesses Turkmenbashi Kuchma said "you bought gas, but not delivery, even with buckets."
    ..... and Gazprom also needs to take gas, how, what and in what does not care.

    ..... WE LIVED WITH A LOW SCORE YOURSELF IS ENOUGH ... but there is a contract to use the situation with China (with a small haemorrhage.), You won’t get shale gas from Slavyansk-Kramatorsk-Donbas for 3 years, even if you kill all Russians Bendera steal everything and it will be their favorite pastime NYATIE but already to the west.
    ..... Put forward your REQUIREMENTS and Crush, and all.
    1. Gromila78
      Gromila78 30 May 2014 10: 51
      0
      ..... in 1992-93 Kuchma "bought" gas from Turkmenabashi-S. Niyazov .., sits and waits, but there is no gas, when he came to the dismantling, it turned out that the pipe ends at the border with Turkmenistan and Russia and according to eyewitnesses Turkmenbashi Kuchma said "you bought gas, but not delivery, even with buckets."
      ..... and Gazprom also needs to take gas, how, what and in what does not care.

      I looked at the map again. And where is the Russian-Turkmen border?
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 30 May 2014 17: 16
        +2
        Come on, Gazprom had and still has a huge advantage - the actual regulator of all gas production in the USSR. Central Asia was completely dependent on Gazprom. Uzbek and Turkmen gas is completely dependent on the gas transmission system of Russia represented by Gazprom. Only a year ago a pipe was launched in China through us, Kazakhstan. The plans include an increase in capacity and the construction of new gas pipelines. From the northwest to southeast Kazakhstan and further to the PRC. Kazakhstan is currently engaged in gasification of the entire republic.
        And according to the article. It is high time for the Russian Federation to recall that it has a two-headed eagle on its flag, and it’s time to take up the east. And do not pay attention that they bark in the west. I remember when there was a showdown in the Caucasus, everybody was keen on kicking the Russian army-west, the media, liberals, etc. .. And after the Crimea, where there wasn’t any shooting, it suddenly became such that the whole world needed to tremble. Well them - do not pay attention. Hysteria, well, let hysteria.
  17. Grach710
    Grach710 30 May 2014 07: 32
    +1
    Yes, the usual chatter of zhurnalyugi from the American military-industrial complex. Increase military budgets and buy American weapons. No, Russian barbarians will come and crush everyone. American propaganda from the Cold War. You might think that if the lab’s houses increase the budget to 2-3% of GDP, they will become invincible. These are limitrophies, a sanitary cordon in the event of war becoming a bridgehead.
  18. Yuriy.Sergunov
    Yuriy.Sergunov 30 May 2014 07: 32
    0
    The article is frank nonsense, but the author does not understand the issue!
  19. yulka2980
    yulka2980 30 May 2014 07: 32
    +1
    I barely mastered this "work"! Sometimes it seems that normal people live only in Russia, because such nonsense can only be written by a psychotic dispensary patient. Talking about Russia as a monster who wants to take over everything and everyone is already tired of the order. late
  20. parus2nik
    parus2nik 30 May 2014 07: 32
    +3
    patrolling the airspace of Iceland, this defenseless NATO member
    Further, I couldn’t read .. tears filled my eyes .. imagined Icelanders who peered anxiously into the sky every minute, and if Russian planes, fishermen who anxiously look beyond the sea horizon, are flying, and if Russian landing ships are sailing to land landing ... which will eat all the sheep and catch the fish .. By the way, Iceland is the first bankrupt of the EU, and x ... they scored on debts that they must pay to Europe ... And during the period of their economic difficulties they turned to Russia ...
    1. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin 30 May 2014 07: 36
      +2
      By the way, Iceland was the first bankrupt of the EU, and h..they scored on debts that they should pay to Europe ... And during the period of their economic difficulties they turned to Russia ...

      By the way, their Prime Minister graduated from Moscow State University
  21. pensioner
    pensioner 30 May 2014 07: 36
    +1
    During the Cold War, these were enslaved countries.
    And now they mean free?what Well, well ... That's what many people with nostalgia remember about those times.
  22. Arkan
    Arkan 30 May 2014 07: 39
    0
    The next cry of the American gang, after they gently moved their elbow with the solar plexus, hung snot.
  23. pensioner
    pensioner 30 May 2014 07: 42
    +2
    They noticed how many Russian spies everywhere are active and very effective.

    Well, what did you want. In Russia, spies are prepared from a day nursery ...
  24. Michael_59
    Michael_59 30 May 2014 07: 45
    +1
    Lucas, you mud @ k, you’ve seen enough of a kinch about a cosmosnushka from a namesake and let's broadcast, troglodyte.
  25. zzzeka
    zzzeka 30 May 2014 07: 46
    0
    Pukas needs to inform his patients about who is creeping east and provoking the beginning of the cold war. Also explain your friendly intentions, which are being implemented by placing the MILITARY infrastructure on our borders. It does not hurt to shed light on the fearful and eternally fearful friends of the Poles, who throughout their history were so afraid of Russia that they went to Moscow. Let him tell about the cautious "comrade" Pilsudski with his "great neigh" from sea to sea, I wonder where the terrible Russians would have gone, according to the plans of these worried and fearful for their safety.
  26. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 30 May 2014 07: 47
    +1
    from the Don.
    The article is riddled with one idea! Fashington is no longer able to contain NATO itself. So you can tear yourself up!
  27. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 30 May 2014 07: 51
    +2
    SO, I want to say yes, Kama do you need, the Baltic countries this eternal ....... Poland, we need peace on the borders, we know the cost of living for 1000 years, but you probably didn’t put on, the breed of life Russia wants us to live It provides a war, then when they get under the tail they begin to blame Russia for all mortal sins, we all ask do not be famously while it is quiet, they don’t understand what kind of people they are, they don’t understand, their history doesn’t teach!
  28. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 30 May 2014 07: 52
    0
    Bullshit! Article (-) - BIG MINUS.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 30 May 2014 19: 02
      0
      Quote: ia-ai00
      Bullshit! Article (-) - BIG MINUS.

      What did I say ?!
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 30 May 2014 19: 04
      0
      Quote: ia-ai00
      Bullshit! Article (-) - BIG MINUS.

      What did I say ?!
  29. dvornic
    dvornic 30 May 2014 08: 01
    +3
    "We don’t want a single inch of someone else’s land, but we won’t give up our own top either." We take only our own, what our well-wishers squandered ...
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 30 May 2014 18: 58
      0
      Let the enemy who has hidden in an ambush remember
      We are on the alert and watching the enemy ..
      Quote: dvornic
      "We don’t want a single inch of someone else’s land, but we won’t give up our own top either."
  30. mrDimkaP
    mrDimkaP 30 May 2014 08: 09
    0
    What kind of abstract to fantasy? "The terrible enemy seemed to have been defeated, but troubled times are coming again"? In the beginning, so generally ...

    Threat. Is the author talking to Tom Clancy? The teacher is still far away!
  31. Dimy4
    Dimy4 30 May 2014 08: 10
    0
    Well, uncle described everything in such a way that even I became scared smile
  32. Eragon
    Eragon 30 May 2014 08: 13
    +3
    Article +. It is very useful to know the thoughts of the enemy.
  33. sgazeev
    sgazeev 30 May 2014 08: 15
    +2
    Quote: Polevik
    Article - Insanity!

    Writes "a fragment of anti-Sovietism" living in the 20th century. Russia is a bone in the throat of the West. wassat
  34. Taltsetl
    Taltsetl 30 May 2014 08: 16
    +1
    This and similar articles are a way of processing the consciousness of Europeans. Accustom to the idea that it is better and safer to buy American shale gas.
  35. aleks700
    aleks700 30 May 2014 08: 23
    +1
    For publishing this article here +. But gn-ide lucas minus. Crack the dog from anger.
  36. Grbear
    Grbear 30 May 2014 08: 28
    +1
    Freud reservations and some “involuntary” confessions:

    NATO, drawing new “non-members” into its orbit, actually substitutes them under Russia:
    Turkey sharply objects to any cooperation of the North Atlantic Alliance ... however, the countries involved in them deep down understand that they can be assigned the role of an application, and in the worst case, replacements.


    Even through the terminology, an understanding is visible:
    Russian economy, despite its corruption, bottlenecks and weak base, limited by raw materials, showed that it surprisingly stable and durable good . Russia buys allies in the West and influence, and also promotes the development of interdependence, which makes it difficult to impose serious sanctions against it.


    "Allies"
    Poles and Estonians - sort of new super-hawks in Europe am ... they have serious military potential ...

    The main "conductors" are named, but with an implication, given that:
    • Poland's GDP is $ 489.9 billion. 2012 and 2% - 10 billion per year, i.e. one and a half times less than, practically for nothing, proposed by the “unsaleable” Ukraine to Russia.
    • Estonian GDP of $ 22,4 billion - no comment crying .

    About Putin
    It is driven by a deeply rooted sense of injustice - both from the collapse of the Soviet Union, and from the behavior of the West after that. He feels weaknesses within the EU and NATO, and understands that they can be exploited with minimal costs for himself.

    И
    The Kremlin has learned for itself the lesson that the West is not ready to bear serious economic losses ...


    About other "allies":
    They do not want to bear the economic burden of sanctions request In Russia, they see mainly favorable business opportunities. Mysterious commercial and political alliances recourse with the involvement of Russia ... And Hungary is buying a new nuclear power station in Russia. Together with Austria and Bulgaria, Hungary also advocates the construction of a gas pipeline from Russia called the South Stream.


    And conclusion
    The main battlefield for European security is not in Ukraine.


    It is difficult to understand the logic +; - in relation to the article, but reading the confessions of the "partners", well, of course, it's nice. hi
  37. tank64rus
    tank64rus 30 May 2014 08: 31
    +1
    The West now represents this figure as a prophet. Putin began to play by his own rules and sent them ... We got used to pushing the world around and rage.
  38. JACTUS RECTUS
    JACTUS RECTUS 30 May 2014 08: 39
    +2
    This is not an article, not analytics, this is just a list of stereotypes, cliches, cliches and contradictions, and this, in turn, is a complete set of the ignorant's arsenal. There is no point in being afraid of the United States and NATO, if these countries are mostly populated by ignoramuses, we have time and resources on our side , we need to stock up on obedience and watch as this "civilization" degrades.
  39. Ptaha
    Ptaha 30 May 2014 08: 43
    +2
    "... Poles and Estonians are the new super-hawks of Europe." - it turns out to be a humorous article smile
  40. Victor-M
    Victor-M 30 May 2014 09: 23
    0
    The author judges by the policy of Western idiots. laughing
    If they listened to the Baltic paranoids, then Western Europe would no longer be. laughing
  41. Mails
    Mails 30 May 2014 09: 32
    +1
    The article is not about anything.
    Mosca’s fear of the elephant - it will always be.

    But, to write such a thing, first you need to imagine such a fact:
    - Place Russian missile defense in Latin America.
    - For 25 years, has Russia used its armed forces far abroad? (Ukraine and Georgia - does not count, this is border protection).

    But only after that you can write such an article.
    And then we will make them worry in one place.
  42. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 30 May 2014 09: 34
    +1
    Disgusting little article and apparently well paid, everything in it from beginning to end is turned upside down and only one thing can agree with the "scribbler" -NATO has outlived itself as a real force in the fight against Russia! And in general this daub is one continuous screams in the style of "Psaki"!
  43. Salieri
    Salieri 30 May 2014 09: 36
    +1
    Quote: JACTUS RECTUS
    This is not an article, not analytics, this is just a list of stereotypes, cliches, cliches and contradictions, and this, in turn, is a complete set of the ignorant's arsenal. There is no point in being afraid of the United States and NATO, if these countries are mostly populated by ignoramuses, we have time and resources on our side , we need to stock up on obedience and watch as this "civilization" degrades.

    That this is a list of "stereotypes, cliches and cliches" is understandable. There are a lot of such articles now. They have a very specific goal - to make NATO countries spend money on defense. Now the situation is such that the overwhelming majority of NATO countries are rapidly degrading militarily and the United States bears the main burden of military spending. And the states have already untied their navel: due to military operations in the Middle East and the need to contain China, they simply do not have enough strength and resources. And then all sorts of newly-minted allies, such as Georgia and Ukraine, demand "protection". These are the staff and they want Europe itself to be able to do something. And gayropeans do not want to fight or spend money on defense. Everything suits them. So we have to stimulate the overwhelmed pacifists with old tales in a new way
  44. MolGro
    MolGro 30 May 2014 09: 39
    0
    Western policy, when we feel bad, the best government in Russia!
  45. reality
    reality 30 May 2014 09: 47
    +1
    Damn, the Europeans are driving. That's exactly as many years as they do not attack Russia, - Russia does not attack them. They would notice this pattern. How did they come up with Russian aggression and believe in it? She never was. . Damn, well, they themselves are destroying. We don’t need theirs — it’s they who constantly burrow into ours and cowardly convince themselves of Russian aggression. TIGHTEN ALREADY!
  46. siberalt
    siberalt 30 May 2014 10: 02
    0
    Geographically, Ukraine is the center of Europe. Brzezik agrees with this. And how could the territories west of Ukraine become eastern after their "occupation" by the Soviets? It's not about geography, but about ideology. Moreover, the expansion of this ideology to the east began in the 12-13 centuries.
  47. Free Island
    Free Island 30 May 2014 10: 07
    +2
    but the German population seems to have seen the light. It is clear that this will not affect the behavior of Angelka Merkelova in the international arena, but it’s still nice :))
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_RF8cJ1jWE

    listen to what these people are shouting in Russian with a strong German accent :))) "Yaytsenyu, terrorist!")) this is how they greet the shit-cracker Kiev.
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 30 May 2014 10: 55
      0
      Along past Us in Europe, it seems only Germans and remember what Fascism is with a Nazi face. Germans respect good
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 30 May 2014 17: 20
        +1
        So there are allied bases still standing. Both the Americans and the British. Germany on a leash. hi
        They are not even shy about putting pressure on Merkel.
  48. Giant thought
    Giant thought 30 May 2014 10: 15
    +2
    Another anti-Russian article. With great pleasure put a minus article.
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 30 May 2014 10: 55
      +1
      Quote: Thought Giant
      With great pleasure put a minus article.

      And I'll give you "+" hi
  49. old man
    old man 30 May 2014 10: 24
    0
    Paranoid burden on. Reading was disgusting.
  50. VladimS
    VladimS 30 May 2014 10: 25
    +1
    I haven’t read such nonsense here for a long time.
    Only the author somehow keeps silent that it’s not Russia but the NATO bloc
    systematically squeezed the ring placing their missiles, etc. approaching our state borders.
    At the same time, as usual, Russia is blamed for all sins and aggressiveness as usual!
    When Medvedev announced his return placement in the Kaliningrad region, Iskanderov crap in a fright.
    Gentlemen! Do not climb, do not threaten, do not be mongrels "yapping" by order of the owner .. and you
    nobody will touch! Here is such an approximate tale, the majority of Russian people.