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The true nature of the Ukrainian war

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Many have long reported about the beginning of the civil war in Ukraine. But in fact, it began only a couple of days ago, with the start of hostilities in residential areas. Previously, the bulk of civilian casualties were not casualties from military actions, but victims of political punitive actions (such as Odessa), victims of death squads, terrorizing many regions of New Russia. And now comes the real horror. A photo of an old grandmother, whose home had been destroyed by a shell, was bumped into memory. This Slavic grandmother, I think, could not have expected that she would live to the time when her house, located far from any borders, would be on the front line, as in 1942 year. And that it will not be fired upon by some “basurman”, but by its own Ukrainian brothers. And there are millions of such grandmothers in Ukraine. It is clear that the overwhelming majority of the population of Ukraine does not want war, the war in no way fits into the life plans of most people, neither in the West, nor in the East, nor in the Center, nor in the South of the country. Anyone who has ever visited Novorossia or Little Russia, especially in summer, especially the countryside, it is obvious that this land physically rejects the idea of ​​war. When she was “Wild Field”, she too suffered from war and arbitrariness, so today in the genetic code of the majority of its inhabitants there is something like a message: “hut, vegetable garden, berth, blue sky, and nothing more is needed”. And so, we see a very instructive fact: the country essentially does not want war, is afraid of war, does not understand why it is at all to fight each other, but the Ukrainian authorities, the propaganda machine and a bunch of fanatics are actively pushing it in there, and people have no chance oppose this. What for? What is all this for?


For many years I have been advocating for the state status of the Russian language in Ukraine, for the equality of Ukrainians and Russians, for federalization, etc. And nevertheless, it is quite clear to me that neither the struggle for language, nor the struggle for a more equitable distribution of power between the regions and the Center is not in itself worth a real civil war. Even the fight against Ukrainization, by itself, is not worth civil war, not worth destroying cities, it does not “pay back” the suffering of starving old children, who hide from bombing instead of enjoying their childhood. Still, pretending to be a “Ukrainian” Russian — just to spit, and the Russians in Ukraine were far from being in such a disenfranchised position as in Estonia, and not in such danger as in Chechnya. Those who are completely unbearable could emigrate to the Russian Federation. “It would seem that it was worthwhile for the Russians to once again give in a little, bend a little? And New Russia could avoid the onset of catastrophe. And aren't the Russians used to giving in, bending over, obeying someone else's impudence over the past 90 years? 1000 times gave way, give way to 1001 times, fools! And then on 1002, on 1003, etc. What are you worth? What suddenly rested? "

But this war, it seems to me, has a more fundamental reason, which rises above directly stated political reasons. This is not a war for “language,” not a war for regionalism. This is a war for human dignity. The real reason is that the Russians are tired of giving up. "Yawn" broke. But the Ukrainians did not understand this, failed to or did not want to restructure in time, they still think that the pliability of the Russians is a normal, “correct” state. And you just need to tighten up a little, press down, scare, and everything will be back to square one. - No, it will not return.

By the way, in this case I call Russians not only “passport Russians”, but also all those in Ukraine who were equated with Russians by the very same ukronacist propaganda: everyone who is turned away from Bandera, from pravosek, from insolent lies, from vile oligarchic muzzles , to whom the “right Ukrainians” have sworn allegiance and wish to feed their children. This is generally a “terrible secret” of the Ukrainian conflict, which we, the Russians, benefit from hiding from the Ukrainians themselves: the conflict in Ukraine is not between “ethnic Ukrainians” and “ethnic Russians”, but mainly between different local subethnos (Galicians, Little Russia and New Russia), who are in varying degrees of distance from the Russians. But if ukronatsists themselves, in their idiocy, are ready to write to the “Russians” everyone who is turned back from the Galician spill ukronatsizma, then we should be happy with that. You look, people themselves will believe that they are Russian. “Returning from Bandera, from pravosekov, from greasy hari, Peter the Pig?” Do you want to speak Russian? Do you want to be proud of the victory? It means that you are not Ukrainian, but ours, Russian! ”For the past two decades, the balance has been fluctuating. It was not clear who the “intermediate” Novorossiys would be in the end: little by little, they would be made soft by the Ukrainians, or they would still be Russian. Now it is clear that the Russians. And all this - thanks to the "wise" ukronatsistskoy propaganda.

Look again at this picture: even in the Novorossiysk grandmother left without a house you will not find in your eyes neither fear nor servility: only reproach and contempt. The Russians are tired of being afraid, tired of giving in, tired of seeing themselves in their native Novorossia as “second-rate people”, “the wrong Ukrainians” speaking the “wrong language”. In national oppression, the main thing is not material damage, but the imposition of an oppressed feeling of inferiority. My father, who survived the German occupation as a child, wanting to describe his experience, did not tell about hunger and other difficulties, but remembered only the main thing: “they didn’t consider us as people”. And it is not by chance that many in Novorossia started talking today about the “fight against fascism”, they remembered the affairs of the past days: they felt the most important thing about the attitude of the Ukrainians to themselves. It is this: "they do not consider us equal to themselves." “They believe that we, in our own land, in our New Russia, as Russians, should feel inferior, wrong citizens, second-rate people. They think that we should be ashamed of the fact that we are Russians, not ukronatsis. They think that we should think about our New Russia as a “foreign” land, where we are something like migrants or invaders, and ukronatsista are the masters ”.

After the beginning of the current conflict, especially after the return of the Crimea, among Svidomo Ukrainian and Russian Noviop public a wave of admonitions began on the theme: “Come to your senses! You risk losing the Ukrainians as a friendly and fraternal people! The result of these events will be an insurmountable crack, the abyss in relations between the two nations! ”Listen to all such exhortations. Everywhere there is a monotonous refrain in the background: “Give in, resign, because it’s right when the Russians are inferior to the Ukrainians and to anyone.” Meanwhile, the abyss, which scares us, appeared much earlier. The essence of this abyss lies precisely in the fact that the Ukronatsis do not recognize the Russians, precisely as Russians, of equal rights to be the masters of Novorossia, to regard it as their homeland. And the depth of this abyss, already in advance, even before any Crimea prepared, turned out to be such that the masses of Ukrainians are ready to fight and kill in order for the Russians to accept and realize themselves as second-rate people, “guests”, and not masters. It is terrible to even imagine how many millions of Ukrainians must sacrifice themselves in order to fill this gulf to the top with their bodies. So much so that the Ukrainian would prefer to bite his tongue when there is a desire to bark in Russian. To prefer to snatch his own eye, if that eye looks askance at the Russian.

Alas, it was the Ukrainian Ponte who brought this war, the Ukrainian desire to "peremoga" over his neighbor, over his brother. Do not be these Ponte, and all the problems of today's Ukraine would be solved instantly. _Devol_ wrote this well:

“Suppose fiction (in the current situation) - instead of stupid sectarians, Russophobes, Nazis and outspoken autists in Kiev, there would be a government, which is a bit at least a BAD country. Well, yes, the country is crap, profukali all polymers, a sixth or even a fifth of the population escaped, a complete failure in the economy, a bankrupt country, and so on. But, I repeat - a pity. What to do?

Very simple. Russian language - the status of the state, because not FIG. The failure of the Ukrainization policy is obvious to everyone, only 10-15% of the outskirts population constantly speaks Ukrainian. Over the past three months I have watched a few hundred videos from Ukraine. Purely on the move of them - percent 15, and then with reservations. The usual layout: confused in the recently mastered "move" telehedikor or correspondent, talking with a man who sets out his thoughts in normal Russian. The reason is valid: Russian is a richer, more instrumental, more flexible language than a miserable pseudo-Polish office. On the Ukrainian Internet, the Russian crushed and threw the Ukrainian for a long time in the garbage.

Then why swim against the stream with such doom? In Austria and Switzerland, no one invents their own "language", everyone speaks Hochdeutsch. Probably because idiots.

Next - the same decentralization. In a weak country with a weak central government and a dying economy, this is a good chance to keep the state from slipping into anarchy, the era of "warlords." That is exactly what Yeltsin did in the beginning of 90-s in the Russian Federation, when there was a great risk of wholesale separatism (remember the Ural Republic of Rossel, the ideas of the Far Eastern Republic, Tatarstan, and so on).

And everything will be decided automatically. Any separatism automatically loses any, most illusory basis.

And the economic problems of Donbass are now concerned not with Kiev, but with the regional government. And it is responsible for the economy of the region. Conveniently? Yes, just fine. If you also appoint Gubarev as governor of Donbass, let him take it away. And then generally allow the election. So that they themselves choose, they themselves gulp, they themselves "rejoiced." Go bad. Kiev at what? Themselves have chosen fools for themselves, and that’s the mess. ” Etc.

Well, let's not be too cruel to the Ukrainians. They are D'Artagnan in white cloaks. Of course, Russians are to blame for everything. The real reason for this war is that the Russians no longer want to be second-rate people of their own accord, on their own initiative, neither in Ukraine nor anywhere else. “Are you used to the Russians bending themselves?” Do you think you have the right to criticize Russians, to look down on them? Well, prove it right with weapons in hand. Make us just so cool. How many of your corpses do you want to put in order to drive us out of this piece of land? And from that? Come closer, we have already shot a machine gun. " - This is the mood of the Russians: today - in New Russia, tomorrow - everywhere. Anyone who feels that he has the right to look at the Russians from the top down, to consider them “second-rate”, “guests” on the land where they live, will have to defend this right with arms. Or blown away, temper their ambitions, treat the Russians as absolutely equal citizens of their country. By themselves, without complaint, of free will, the Russians will not allow anyone to look down on themselves.

Why, for the first time, did this feeling arouse among Russians in the mass precisely in Ukraine, and not in Estonia, Kazakhstan, in the Caucasus, and anywhere else, where Russians face much greater pressure? The answer is paradoxical: precisely for the reason that Ukrainians are the closest to Russians, they are similar to Russians. When the right to domination and "first-class" makes an absolute stranger, "Other", under this right, at least theoretically, you can give some kind of justification. "He is so different from me, so incomprehensible and unknowable, that maybe it really is something stronger or better than me." But when a person approaches you with claims of superiority who practically does not differ from you, whom you see right through, “the same Russian, only from the side,” it is difficult to believe in the grounds for such a claim. At first, the Russians did not take this claim at all from the Ukrainians seriously, taking them for pretty village fools. - “What child would not play.” “But when they realized that“ they are serious, ”they became seriously angry. And now, for many Russians, a Ukrainian is “the same Russian, only worse”, “he who needs to be punished for impudence”. Thus, the Ukrainians turned out to be the “weak link” among the friendly front of nationalities, who consider themselves “better and more rightful than the Russians.” Ukrainians "took no initiative from the Russians," "not according to their ability," and thus substituted all the others. For now the new pattern of relations with the “Other”, tested on Ukrainians, will be used in relation to other “first-class” peoples. In all the other “Others” who dare to look down on Russians, Russians will gradually learn to see the same “Ukrainians” with “cheap Ponts” not supported by real power. The Russian Holy War for the return of Human Dignity is just beginning.

The worst thing about this stories the fact that Russia, the Russian public also contributed to the development of the Ukrainian catastrophe. Made its contribution to the deepening and "polishing" of the abyss, which the Ukrainians dug to isolate themselves from the Russians. She condoned the part of the Ukrainian society that used to consider Russians in Ukraine second-rate people. I mean here, of course, not patriots of Russia and volunteer militias, but the part of the Russian political and media field that condoned the sociopathies of the Ukrainian authorities, their unwillingness to negotiate, to seek a compromise with the Russians in New Russia. How was it possible for Ukrainians not to believe in their right to consider Russian citizens second-rate, if in Russia itself “all progressive public” assured them of the sanctity of this right? If Noviopskaya Russia did not provoke the Ukrainians, did not mislead them, did not justify their “holy right” to mock the Russians, then perhaps the Ukrainians would behave more intelligently. All the public in Russia, who cruelly deceived the Ukrainians, strengthening them in their desire to oppress the Russians, bears their share of responsibility for the blood shed, and someday, I am sure, Ukrainians will avenge anyone who framed them and sent them to death.
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  1. Wels75
    Wels75 30 May 2014 18: 15
    +25
    We are not Russian on the passport! We are Russian as our soul!
    The Russians do not want war, but if they need to defend their interests, protect the Russians (even if they are only in the soul), protect the weak, and defend the truth to the very end. Read the story gentlemen fascists! And the same fate awaits you, as the past enemies of Russia.
    Amen.
    1. IFreedman
      IFreedman 30 May 2014 18: 20
      +13
      Federation, language issues and everything else is no longer important. It is unlikely that Ukraine will remain a single state after all this mess. And what kind of federalization are we talking about if the ideologists of the revolution profess such ideas:
      1. Wels75
        Wels75 30 May 2014 18: 27
        +7
        Quote: IFreedman
        Federation, language issues and everything else is no longer important. It is unlikely that Ukraine will remain a single state after all this mess. And what kind of federalization are we talking about if the ideologists of the revolution profess such ideas:

        Nda full clinic so dream in 2002. Have slaves in the face of Russian. The yellow house absenteeism puts them.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 30 May 2014 18: 47
          +14
          In the German city of Aachen, the Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who arrived at the ceremony of presenting the President of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy with the International Prize named after him, was booed. Charlemagne the Great.

          Demonstrators came to the building of the town hall, where the events were held, to demand that a new war in Europe be prevented and "stop American terror in Ukraine," radio station Deutschlandfunk reports. The audience chanted "Yatsenyuk is a terrorist".

          Express Zeitung considered the appearance of Yatsenyuk in Aachen a manifestation of "pure cynicism" and discrediting the prize. Charlemagne. "How can you invite a politician responsible for the massacre in Odessa and the war against his own people to the awards ceremony? How blind do you need to be to not understand what is happening in Ukraine? Maybe we will also present him with the Dachau Memorial Award for Civil Courage?" - the newspaper is indignant.
          1. matross
            matross 30 May 2014 19: 12
            +8
            Quote: Vadivak
            Presentation of the President of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy Charlemagne the Great.

            Does anyone remember the face of this old homosexual Rompuy ?! Charlemagne, probably, in the grave of the poor man turns upside down!
            1. Kite
              Kite 30 May 2014 20: 13
              +6
              Quote: matRoss
              Does anyone remember the face of this old homosexual Rompuy ?!

              -And you have not heard how in a public speech in the west they compared him with a wet rag?
        2. Bormental
          Bormental 30 May 2014 21: 36
          +6
          A slave does not dream of freedom; he dreams of his slaves. What to expect from the hereditary cattle of the Polish owners. Not knowingly, the Poles say, why do we need home robots (the same slaves), we already have Ukrainians.
          1. 1812 1945
            1812 1945 30 May 2014 22: 47
            +2
            Quote: Bormental
            A slave does not dream of freedom; he dreams of his slaves. What to expect from the hereditary cattle of the Polish owners. Not knowingly, the Poles say, why do we need home robots (the same slaves), we already have Ukrainians.

            You can’t say more precisely! Not allowing their subconscious feelings of their inferiority to take shape in thought (they were never masters on their land, their language causes ridicule, eternal laborers and lackeys ..) they became embittered all over the world for a long time - many generations were replaced. And passing from generation to generation, by no means the best signs, they mutated into degenerates, for whom to do evil not like them is an urgent need. They have no place among people.
        3. a52333
          a52333 30 May 2014 23: 29
          +1
          Not cured at the time. A second course is needed.
      2. BYV
        BYV 30 May 2014 18: 27
        +33
        Russians do not start wars. Russians finish them.
        1. Wels75
          Wels75 30 May 2014 18: 29
          +10
          +100500
          Proven and more than once.
          It can be considered an axiom !!!
        2. maks-101
          maks-101 30 May 2014 18: 32
          +13
          Russians do not start wars. Russians finish them.
          That's right, the Russians didn’t threaten anyone, and if necessary they gave the last shirt. We are Russian peaceful people, but you can’t touch us, your descendants always warn you that it’s better not to fight with the Russians.
        3. sem-yak
          sem-yak 30 May 2014 19: 08
          +3
          We are peaceful people, but our armored train stands on a siding ...
      3. zanoza
        zanoza 30 May 2014 18: 40
        +20
        Quote: IFreedman
        ... It is unlikely that Ukraine will remain ...


        In 91, they "grabbed" the territory with people and choked.
        An independent state is not a republic of the USSR where everyone shared with everyone, lived according to the State Planning Commission and controlled from the Kremlin.
        They cut off their "krauha" and for 23 years "milked", divided and plundered the property of the Soviet people.
        They did not learn to govern the country, they governed "according to concepts."
        So the Soviet resources ran out, from that they rage, they are looking for the guilty and the extreme, biting for the remnants of post-Soviet production.
        The oligarchs really seized power. They do everything that they consider necessary for themselves, kill and crush dissidents, and all who interfere with their business.
        Infinity is beyond limits.
        1. Himalayan
          Himalayan 30 May 2014 18: 47
          +13
          “The heart's word and wise knowledge of life will be answered by the word of the Briton; a light dandy will flash and scatter the short-lived Frenchman's word; intricately invent his own, not accessible to everyone smart, thin word German; but there’s no word that would be so sweeping, quick, so pulled out from under my heart, so vibrant and vibrant, like a well-spoken Russian word ”

          Gogol Nikolay Vasilievich
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        3. matross
          matross 30 May 2014 19: 07
          +5
          Yes, Zadornov called those not stupid! These America 100 points forward will give! In general, a degradant on a degradant from parliament to the collective farm! And from the president to the pethouse, you can swap places in any combination - no one will notice! Brothers, sawing ... according to reason ... younger. Nah we are such poor relatives?
    2. armageddon
      armageddon 30 May 2014 19: 04
      +1
      Hmm ... Dashing trouble from the beginning ... Took on tugs-Don’t say that do not dozens !!! The victory will be ours !!! I apologize for the proverbs ... But how damn fit!
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 30 May 2014 20: 36
        +2
        The nature of war in the following reasons:
        1. There is a difference between East and West. The East naturally reaches for the Russian World, and the West for the Western, with the existing followers of Bandera and Shukhevych.
        2. Powerful Oligarch. The West promises her aid (a piece for the division) of 17 billion. BUT WITH ONE CONDITION - THE INTEGRITY OF THE COUNTRY. And those with $ in their heads instead of brains are ready for anything. They will multiply all costs by 2,3 or 10 and write off for the war. Such for cutting are ready to "buy" the Ministry from the USA with a vigorous filling.
        3. Who benefits from all this? The EU started, the USA continued. Who gingerbreads promise 17 billion? Everything is done to pit the West and East of Ukraine and to rekindle a new fire. The United States + EU in the bud and in bulk bought up all the power in Ukraine. So they are the puppeteers and muddied everything for the Olympics. Only if the EU does not want to, then the United States will sell.
        I think so, if the Russian Federation introduces troops, then the United States will let Romanians, Poles, Hungarians, Balts under the tanks. They will provide security and sit with "clean hands." So the GDP will not introduce the army. But with everything else it will help, incl. "volunteers". hi
        1. Moldovan
          Moldovan 31 May 2014 01: 24
          +5
          There is only one reason for the war in Ukraine: Russia began to rise from its knees, in fact, after it had already been buried by the Americans in the Yeltsin period. And all the billions of dollars that were used to break up the country went nowhere. The owners of the Earth can not allow this, since at such a pace in 10 years they will cease to be masters, so they went to the bank, this is their last chance.
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    4. Yura
      Yura 30 May 2014 21: 56
      +2
      Quote: Veles75
      Read the story gentlemen fascists! And the same fate awaits you, as the past enemies of Russia.

      Yes, it has always been that way. The Russian man never divided people into grades, but those who, with some kind of hangover, began to consider themselves the first grade in relation to him, did not finish well, and that is to say the least.
    5. Duelist
      Duelist 30 May 2014 22: 12
      +2
      Quote: Veles75
      We are not Russian on the passport! We are Russian as our soul!

      It is great that the peoples of Russia are proud of their Motherland and, like streams in the Great River, they are a single vital and formidable force called the State of RUSSIA!
    6. aspirin02
      aspirin02 30 May 2014 23: 20
      0
      The junta shoots at protesters from all guns, Assault rifles, Machine guns, armored personnel carriers 4 Butsyfal, armored personnel carriers 80, grenade launcher!
    7. Vesnik
      Vesnik 30 May 2014 23: 49
      +3
      Banderovites perfectly understand that without the South-East Ukraine is not Ukraine. "Won" - not "heroes" will be .. Why all the "fuss".
      Make Southeast by any means obey. Bad idea, very bad! For the majority of the population is for complete separation from Kiev.
      West and America miscalculated very much! The war is going on in the geopolitical space of Russia.
      Another "stupidly digging bark" attempt to find a "slave" for the war with Russia. A monstrous misunderstanding of the Slavic civilization, with the "understanding" of the situation, their brains!
      I know one thing! The enemy will be defeated! Victory will be ours! .. month, year, 10 years ... a matter of time, but the result will be the same! And he is for the Slavic world! You climbed in the wrong place - gentlemen, "muzzle", "mug" you have "ugly" and "crooked" and even worse "you did not come out with brains"
      Well, as you say, do not meddle in Russia! Uncle Bismarck, left a will for your descendants ... does not reach.
  2. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 30 May 2014 18: 18
    +19
    Here they are the real sorrows of our time:
  3. AleksPol
    AleksPol 30 May 2014 18: 19
    +20
    I may be considered a nationalist, but I am RUSSIAN and proud of it.
    1. Duelist
      Duelist 30 May 2014 22: 03
      +2
      Quote: AleksPol
      I may be considered a nationalist, but I am RUSSIAN and proud of it.

      I'm proud of that too!
      A true RUSSIAN is always a NATIONALIST because he loves his homeland, respects his ancestors, and is ready to lay down his head for everything that is dear to him - the ideology of preservation and creation. Nazism and the even more radical phenomenon of fascism are opposite the ideology of destruction, as they are based on national and ideological inequality and cruelty to others. That's why we are talking about Ukrainian fascism and its manifestations.
  4. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 30 May 2014 18: 21
    +8
    The worst thing in this story is that Russia, the Russian public also contributed to the development of the Ukrainian catastrophe

    That is what is .. silently observed for 23 years and now waited .. Everyone hoped "Maybe calm down and come to their senses .."
    1. sem-yak
      sem-yak 30 May 2014 19: 15
      +5
      So they are a sovereign state, and they chose their own path! And the fact that their path is a dead end branch of evolution is Russia to blame! And if you gave advice? Silent - guilty, we say - doubly guilty! Let them decide! It’s another matter to help the CORRECTLY determined ones, here I am for the sweetheart!
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 30 May 2014 21: 01
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      and then they waited
      --------- + 100500 !!!!!!!!!! in many ways it is we, Russia, who are to blame for what is happening in Ukraine .........
    3. Lvovich
      Lvovich 30 May 2014 21: 35
      0
      Offhand, quickly, you can at least bring a couple of counter options, and ...
      for 23 years ..... Well, what could be done?
      Sincerely .
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 31 May 2014 08: 55
        0
        at least -------- do not look calmly at all the scoldings that were going on there ...... all the more so, during this time there were times when Ukrainian society was quite realistically concreino to tilt towards Russia .... I I went there regularly to my relatives --- I know how I’m talking. Moreover, sales in Western Ukraine could be done .... but ..................... did not. ..question --- to whom now to blame, since they themselves drive .......... but the West acted quite competently .... from this even more foul heart ........
  5. mad
    mad 30 May 2014 18: 22
    +7
    Although the conclusions are correct, but the message, IMHO, is not. Galicians and others. Bandera not because they are in power because they are incredibly cool, but because they have invested 5 lyams in their promotion and feed them with pies. Remove this reason (going back 20 years) and there will be no such horror called "glory to Ukraine"
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 30 May 2014 18: 49
      +5
      Quote: mad
      The Galicians and others. Bandera is not in power because they are incredibly cool, but because they invested Lyam in their promotion of 5 and feed them on pies.


      I agree. Maidan, therefore, lasted so much time that it was constantly fed with money. There is no money in New Russia, which is why the majority prefers to work rather than fight.
  6. pensioner
    pensioner 30 May 2014 18: 22
    +4
    The article is very good, thanks to the author, but these words, although they do not belong to the author, were corrupted:
    recall the Ural Republic of Rossel
    Rossel, the author of this idea, just because of it and flew in the elections, like plywood over Paris. Glory to God, the people had the brains not to insist on such a divorce. And in those days, generally speaking, it could have been otherwise ... Well, this is also not true:
    Ukrainians are closest to Russians, similar to Russians

    We are one people.
    1. a52333
      a52333 30 May 2014 23: 44
      +1
      Quote: retired
      We are one people.

      Who are you talking about?
      If about Galicia - then no. 350 years under the Commonwealth. and then from 1772 to 20 century under Austria-Hungary. A few waves of assimilation. Now they themselves do not really know who they are. Kiev (that is, the center of Ukraine) is all 300. It’s a little easier there.
  7. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 30 May 2014 18: 23
    +5
    "This is a war for Human Dignity".
    Yes, but this is not a war between Ukrainians and Russians, this is a war with the Bandera-Fascist ideology.
  8. Saratovets
    Saratovets 30 May 2014 18: 25
    +12
    My friends, very interesting news, did not expect such a move from ours:

    MOSCOW, May 30 - RIA Novosti. The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation has opened a criminal case on the use of prohibited means and methods of war in the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics, the official representative of the TFR Vladimir Markin told reporters on Friday.
    The case was initiated against unidentified military personnel, including from the ranks of the National Guard of Ukraine, as well as members of the "Right Sector" "on the facts of shelling of the cities of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Donetsk, Mariupol and other settlements."
    The maximum sanction under the relevant article is imprisonment for 20 years.


    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140530/1010043198.html#ixzz33D0zmUTN
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 30 May 2014 18: 31
      +9
      Oops! Urgently send the SC task force to the scene! It is interesting: how long does it take to print the identity cards of SK officers for the entire Pskov division? what
      1. Saratovets
        Saratovets 30 May 2014 18: 45
        +5
        And one cannot let them go, they shoot there, tanks are needed, and also armored personnel carriers for movement, again, for the investigators, protection is needed, even if for "former landings))" You can't do without a couple of escort teams!
      2. Itson
        Itson 30 May 2014 19: 46
        +5
        Exactly, it would be all the more suitable because it is completely called the 76th Guards Chernihiv Red Banner Airborne Assault Division.
      3. raptor1975
        raptor1975 30 May 2014 21: 17
        +2
        Eh, as if I would like for the Russian Air Force to work on the accumulations of the Ukrainian security forces, so that they just .... fear and scatter, but this is a delicate policy and everything must be done carefully here. But nevertheless, I am tormented by the question: if the security forces begin to coordinate methods, that is, to a total sweep, how will Moscow react ??? I think that Churkin and Lavrov are unlikely to help in this situation.
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    2. Wels75
      Wels75 30 May 2014 18: 31
      +3
      Good move! Type as a criminal case for Yarosh.
      There would be an effect in the future.
    3. kombat58
      kombat58 30 May 2014 18: 40
      +5
      20 years will not be enough!
      According to the divine and human, executioners without trial - DEATH.
      So that the punitive will not live to see the court.
      After all, they shot without a court decision!
      1. nizrum
        nizrum 30 May 2014 19: 10
        +4
        Shot while trying to detain. So it goes?
    4. sgazeev
      sgazeev 30 May 2014 18: 50
      +4
      Artist Markin, well, just a Field of Miracles, surpassed Sachka. The titmouse in the hands is better than the crane in the sky. belay
    5. papas-57
      papas-57 30 May 2014 21: 15
      0
      '' MOSCOW, May 30 - RIA Novosti. The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation opened a criminal case on the use of prohibited means and methods of war in the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, the official representative of the TFR Vladimir Markin told reporters on Friday. '' And that the Investigative Committee is interfering in the affairs of other states, he has nothing to do. All thieves and bribe-takers were imprisoned in Russia! Better to start a case against Obama, so he will get scared. There would be a man, but there is a job. Or they will start a case for ineffective waste of taxpayers' money (there is a lot of noise and business, but there are no landings)
      1. Itson
        Itson 30 May 2014 22: 14
        +3
        It is not that TFR has nothing more to do.
        Markin, commenting on the initiation of the case, said "" If politicians in Kiev or in the West prefer to live inside a virtual reality propagandist, in a fairy tale about the king's new dress, these are their problems. But we in Russia are not going to give up a sober view of the facts, including the objective reality of the disintegration and inability of the state in Ukraine to protect the rights and freedoms of citizens. "

        “The perpetrators of the deaths of civilians and children, according to all the canons of international law, should be held responsible for this. And if today there is not a single state in the world that is able to admit the obvious that the actions of the Ukrainian authorities are criminal, then the Investigative Committee of Russia, initiating a criminal case, takes Thus, the Investigative Committee not only recognizes the fact of committing crimes against civilians, but also begins to collect evidence of the guilt of everyone involved in crimes committed against the peace and security of mankind. And the inevitable trial awaits everyone involved in crimes from an ordinary soldier The National Guard to those who give them orders to kill civilians. "

        And the most important thing is not in the fact of initiating a criminal case, but in this comment. In general, we collect material for the tribunal, and where it will be - in Rostov, Kiev or Moscow is not important. And it will be for sure
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 31 May 2014 03: 12
          0
          Quote: Itson
          ... we are collecting material for the tribunal, and where it will be is not important in Rostov, Kiev or Moscow. And it will be for sure

          The tribunal should be in Slavyansk - this is important!
          The Slavic Tribunal is sonorous and symbolic.
    6. papas-57
      papas-57 30 May 2014 21: 15
      0
      '' MOSCOW, May 30 - RIA Novosti. The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation opened a criminal case on the use of prohibited means and methods of war in the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, the official representative of the TFR Vladimir Markin told reporters on Friday. '' And that the Investigative Committee is interfering in the affairs of other states, he has nothing to do. All thieves and bribe-takers were imprisoned in Russia! Better to start a case against Obama, so he will get scared. There would be a man, but there is a job. Or they will start a case for ineffective waste of taxpayers' money (there is a lot of noise and business, but there are no landings)
  9. Keeper
    Keeper 30 May 2014 18: 32
    +6
    It’s just that the world has not yet understood that in this century, photo-video equipment is already enough to remove the facts of disastrous attitude in Ukraine towards ordinary people! Nothing ... The video does not store anger - it stores the bare facts! Let time pass ... We will all wait, so that later, after a cool drink, we will show everyone what they represented on this Sabbath ....
    1. sem-yak
      sem-yak 30 May 2014 19: 18
      +3
      Well, probably it will be so
  10. b.t.a.
    b.t.a. 30 May 2014 18: 34
    +8
    Quote: Veles75
    The worst thing in this story is that Russia, the Russian public also contributed to the development of the Ukrainian catastrophe. Contributed to the deepening and “polishing” of the abyss that the Ukrainians dug to fence themselves off from the Russians. Indulged that part of Ukrainian society, which was accustomed to consider Russians in Ukraine second-class people. I mean, of course, not Russian patriots and volunteer volunteers, but that part of the Russian political and media field that condoned the sociopathy of the Ukrainian authorities, their reluctance to negotiate, and seek a compromise with the Russians in New Russia. How could Ukrainians not believe in their right to consider Russians second-class citizens, if in Russia itself “the whole progressive public” convinced them of the sanctity of this right?

    What can I say if even in Russia there are such bastards who say that they are ashamed that they are Russian. The country gave these vampires an education, without a poor life. But for them it is still SAVOK. No matter how much you do everything for them, Russia will be bad. Such is their nature.
  11. _my opinion
    _my opinion 30 May 2014 18: 35
    +4
    TFR opened a criminal case on the use of prohibited means and methods of war in eastern Ukraine

    The TFR opened a criminal case on the use of prohibited means and methods of war in the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics, said the official representative of the department Vladimir Markin.
    30 May 2014, 18: 12
    The Main Investigative Department of the ICR opened a criminal case against unidentified servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as persons from the National Guard and the Right Sector on the facts of shelling of the cities of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Donetsk, Mariupol and other settlements proclaimed by the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics in signs of a crime under Part 1 of Art. 356 of the Criminal Code (use of prohibited means and methods of warfare).
    According to RIA Novosti, on May 26 a grenade launcher attack on a truck with the flag of the Red Cross carrying the wounded in Donetsk resulted in the deaths of at least 35 civilians.

    Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/34334#ixzz33D3HlZQq
    1. Grandfather Victor
      Grandfather Victor 30 May 2014 20: 28
      0
      Actually, war is won first, and then war criminals are tried. It all looks like a bad comedy. Well, imagine the criminal cases instituted by the NKVD on Hitler’s generals in 1941!
  12. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 30 May 2014 18: 36
    +15
    I was killed near Slavyansk
    With mortar shelling,
    Killed brother in Kramatorsk -
    “Guardsmen” burned in the city department,
    Nazis killed uncle from Odessa
    In the House of Trade Unions,
    Killed nephew in Volnovakha -
    The boy became a "two hundredth" load,
    Sister killed in Lysychansk -
    At the checkpoint from the machine,
    Grandfather was killed near Lugansk -
    The funnel where the hut was
    Wife shot in Donetsk -
    They shot from the SVD in the back ...
    We were all killed for "one
    That Square Ukraine ... "
    We were all killed for "one
    That Square Ukraine ... "

    No! You are not killed near Slavyansk-You survived in human memory! - Like your brother in the Lugansk army, - Like a grandfather in a battle near Moscow! (This is a comment on this poem)
  13. Irokez
    Irokez 30 May 2014 18: 36
    +3
    And someday, I am sure, Ukrainians will take revenge on everyone who framed them and sent them to death.

    Someday - maybe. But a lot of tears must be shed and shit will be eaten in order to start waking up and thinking while giving birth to your brains and developing them correctly.
    And most likely there will be no revenge and those who set them up and sent them to death will not either hide them or quietly transfer them to another dimension as waste material, and the Ukrainians themselves (Rus in ancient times, having lost kinship) will flow around and be indignant at the inevitability and impossibility of revenge or bring back the past and will yell at every corner "And you didn’t say before, I didn’t bach".
  14. Gloria45
    Gloria45 30 May 2014 18: 37
    +7
    Hello my dear compatriots. I want to show you once again how far the roots of lies in the Western media sprouted. Today I’m looking all day for information from French newspapers and television and translating for the Internet militia website. And what I found in the Parisian Le monde, I can’t find the words ... I feel that this lie physically suffocates me. A couple of years ago I spent several days in Paris, in the house of the editor-in-chief of all these popular publications Parisien, Mir, Figaro and so on. Unfortunately, he is not a close friend and finding him now is not an easy task. I really want to look into his eyes and ask some questions, but I also want to believe that he no longer works there
    Article called Russia repatriates its dead militants
    who wants to see more here
    http://www.lemonde.fr/europe/article/2014/05/30/ukraine-la-russie-rapatrie-ses-c
    ombattants-tues-a-donetsk_4429367_3214.html

    1. Memorandum
      Memorandum 30 May 2014 19: 04
      +2
      Google Translate...
      The coffins were hastily lined with red cloth. Canvas dressing room corners. They are stowed under the trees behind the morgue of Kalinin Hospital in Donetsk, Thursday, May 29 Fighters, separatist political representatives and press turn around. Food in the refrigerator waiting truck, French brand. The advertising slogan is written on its side: “Fresh food to serve you well.” By the back door, the dirty smell and detergent man wins the court.

      Read (in the subscription edition): In eastern Ukraine, the separatists passed into the hands of the embryo army

      These coffins are proof yet, but this cannot be denied, the involvement of Russian soldiers in the violence of Donbass. They were killed when they encountered the Ukrainian army around Sergey Prokofiev Airport, Monday and Tuesday. Most of them were killed in the explosion of a truck that carried them to the airport, a military helicopter. Some bodies were terribly crippled. The face of one of them was only a red and black hole. He took it from another solution that did not explode.

      Strike Force is "even more powerful"

      It was the first time that the army had clearly committed its forces against the separatists, deploying helicopter gunships and a fighter over a city of nearly one million inhabitants. After the president of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko, is sworn in, she announced that she will hit even harder. Despite violations, despite the risk of civilian casualties.

      In Kalinin's morgue, the prime minister of the "People's Republic of Donetsk", Russian Alexander Borodai, is a symbol of these coffins: he calls for help from Moscow. He wants the press to escort her dead to the border. He says I'm afraid of an ambush by armed pro-Ukrainian groups.

      The oppressed. In the afternoon, news of a coup downtown to disperse the rally. The military wing of the separatists Donetsk was conducted by Igor Strelkov, the man that the EU and Kiev, accused of belonging to the GRU, the special services of the Russian army, took the building of the regional administration.

      MOSCOW IGNORE looks

      The separatist government will remain in place, but set aside its popular Showcase. Soldiers released pro-Russian groups, which Squats from April 6, which also increase the cries for help in Moscow. Flutter. Who came to the conviction, their project is the Autonomous Republic, to unity with the mother of the Russian motherland. Moscow seems to be ignoring them at the moment, and has announced the withdrawal of its troops to the border. Do they have ceased to be useful
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 30 May 2014 19: 15
      +3
      Well, what can I say. He scoundrel and in France scoundrel, no matter what toga dressed: correspondent, bureaucratic or presidential. God is not a Fryer - he will reward everyone according to his deeds. soldier
  15. revnagan
    revnagan 30 May 2014 18: 37
    +6
    By spirit of this bandernya. And they just mimic the Ukrainian people, because it’s easier for them. It's easier to fool the head of the whole people of Ukraine, speaking from the alleged face of this very people. "Wonder, we do, like you." 1939, they did not create anything in Ukraine, working either for the Polish Pan, or for the Hungarian-no gu-gu. At the same time they yell that people from the greater Ukraine, who for centuries have created wealth in Ukraine-occupying countries! In general, I hope that in Novorossia they will be given their brains and the numerical strength will be reduced, and again we will not be ashamed of the fact that we are Ukrainians, we have nothing in common with the Galician offspring. And the Russians are one people with us.
  16. jktu66
    jktu66 30 May 2014 18: 37
    +3
    I may be considered a nationalist, but I am RUSSIAN and proud of it.
    We are many again, and WE are a force!
  17. terrible
    terrible 30 May 2014 18: 38
    +6
    whatever one may say, a black cat ran between the Russians and the dill. the previous friendship will be gone. betrayal is not forgiven.
    1. Makarych
      Makarych 30 May 2014 20: 17
      +6
      with dill has never been and never will be. People just got sick. Nothing, heal. The course of treatment, however, will not be easy and very painful.
  18. siberalt
    siberalt 30 May 2014 18: 41
    +2
    Strange, but isn't his language a virtue for the Russian? And how to understand that the Russians have got used to "bending" over the past 90 years and can, if they wish, "curse" under the Ukrainian? And then suddenly tired of pretending and the truth began! They did not bend under the Nazis, but suddenly under the Ukrainians almost immediately. And who bent that? Some kind of porridge.
  19. dojjdik
    dojjdik 30 May 2014 18: 45
    +2
    what kind of stupidity, what other "civil war"; far-fetched propaganda that Ukrainians are enemies of Russian nonsense; only a youngster can consider this sabotage of the CIA a "war" and even "civil"; what does the language have to do with it? there was a coup - the overthrow of the legitimate President Yanukovych (Kadafi-Miloshovich-Hussein) and the neighboring countries Belarus Russia Kazakhstan looked at it with detachment and indifference
  20. Horst78
    Horst78 30 May 2014 18: 46
    +3
    Still pretend to be "Ukrainian" Russian-just spit,
    After THIS, I see no reason to read. The author is an opportunist and has nothing to do with Russians. Article and more to the author -100000000000000000000000000000
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 30 May 2014 18: 56
      +1
      And further. I just remembered. The series is good about VO "Man of War". There was a scene when a saboteur-chemist was released partisans with him entered the village. There were young resistance guys hanging in the village. The local partisan asked why you wouldn’t take it off, but those Germans couldn’t come and allegedly be punished. So, out of anger, he began to set fire to the fire. Now I UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE FEELED sad
  21. konvalval
    konvalval 30 May 2014 18: 47
    +3
    So I say: the fifth column must be crushed, so that they would not provoke the same thing with us.
  22. Serg93
    Serg93 30 May 2014 18: 48
    +2
    Quote: MIKHAN
    The worst thing in this story is that Russia, the Russian public also contributed to the development of the Ukrainian catastrophe

    That is what is .. silently observed for 23 years and now waited .. Everyone hoped "Maybe calm down and come to their senses .."

    Hope dies last)))
  23. subbtin.725
    subbtin.725 30 May 2014 18: 48
    +4
    Again, the Russians are to blame for him. Maybe it’s enough to drive a fool already? They raised a generation of fascists, and we are to blame. This topic will not work anymore.
  24. Palych9999
    Palych9999 30 May 2014 18: 54
    +1
    The most Ukrainian writer - T.G.Shevchenko, wrote in Russian.
  25. Lelek
    Lelek 30 May 2014 18: 55
    +7
    The so-called Ukraine is scarce by thinkers and logicians, if such pearls come out at the level of "government". We have to state once again:
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 30 May 2014 20: 13
      +1
      Her never and NOT
    2. nick.shukin2015
      nick.shukin2015 30 May 2014 22: 19
      +1
      We confess to ourselves and to the whole world that such a country (Ukraine) has never been, never is and never will be.
  26. AX
    AX 30 May 2014 18: 56
    +1
    I remember at school, in the year 86, they received passports. The column was - "nationality", a classmate wrote to himself - Ukrainian. Because my great-grandmother is from Zhitomir. And I did not speak "mov". Now I understood why he did it. .. I met him a couple of months ago, already Russian (in the conversation it turned out) ... Bitches offal ...
  27. X Y Z
    X Y Z 30 May 2014 18: 57
    +1
    An in-depth article with the right conclusions. The main thing - "The essence of this abyss is precisely that the Ukronazis do not recognize that Russians, precisely as Russians, have equal rights to be the masters of Novorossia, to consider it their homeland. And the depth of this abyss - already prepared in advance, even before any Crimea, - turned out to be that the masses of Ukrainians are ready to fight and kill in order for the Russians to come to terms and realize themselves as second-class people, "guests", and not masters. "
    And the "kinship" of our "brothers" very much faded after all that had happened. This is really no longer teasing, not mocking, from our side, looking at the hooded girl, but the desire to correct the brains, can be a very painful way (through the appropriate place).
  28. Signaller
    Signaller 30 May 2014 18: 58
    +6
    Of course, I am not an analyst, but I always tend to analyze it a little after receiving information. On normal - "cough".
    A man is working with us now. About 20 years ago, he moved from Donetsk to Russia, after being divided into the CIS. In short, he moved to a large enterprise. Toasts, strezemment, vodka flow like water.
    The team decides, "Well, wait, I'll sing." In short, they sing songs. A handsome man, even now, at 68, Apollo will envy - he sings a song in Ukrainian. His voice and hearing are excellent. He sang. All applause. The director invites into the office - like let's wag here for a song, for life without THESE JIDES AND HER. The man almost choked. Says: "What are you. So it is impossible, these are our workers and our friends" - To him the director: "You think so" ??? He: "Yes." Director: "Then go dear from here, and so that your spirit is not here." Well then here and there. He divorced his wife, moved to Russia, wait with Volgograd, and you say from a cell ???? From tel .. We are hated there ardently and constantly. It just always needs to be borne in mind. We are NOT BROTHERS for them, definitely. We are, I am a Nazi muzzle, s, etc. etc. is no more. They will not say openly, but behind the eyes, yes, not a question, Forever.
  29. Plastun
    Plastun 30 May 2014 18: 58
    0
    nonsense! they themselves wanted this ...
  30. Palladium900
    Palladium900 30 May 2014 19: 00
    +4
    This is not a war for language, not a war for regionalism. This is a war for Human Dignity
    I believe that this is not a war of Russians and Ukrainians, but a war of America, NATO (Anglo-Saxons) against Russia and the entire Slavic world. America’s war for preserving its welfare based on the petrodollar, living beyond its means, for the right to continue robbing the whole world, parasitizing on it. Ukraine for America is only an advance prepared bridgehead for the war with Russia. If it weren’t for Ukraine, they would have come up with (and possibly come up with) something else. And this fight will probably be decisive ..... The picture, in my opinion, clearly illustrates what is happening ..
  31. BelPartizan
    BelPartizan 30 May 2014 19: 02
    +1
    What exactly is noticed! The article is just super, sometimes you seem to think so, but it's hard to find your own words. I think this article needs the widest repost. She is one of those that clarifies people's brains, then everything is clearly laid out on the shelves of them.
  32. Snoop
    Snoop 30 May 2014 19: 18
    +2
    So a long time ago the abyss. I liked Puchkov’s statement on Channel 5 of St. Petersburg ... so what do you want? It wasn’t necessary to pour mud over your own history for all these 20 years. And it’s right, what can we say about Ukraine, if our media themselves broadcast about the evil empire -SSSR, the bloodthirsty Stalin ... this is where these topics grow with the revision of the results of World War II. And still, Putin himself and Medvedev are still flirting with such things. Admitted the guilt of the Soviet leadership in the execution of 40 thousand Polish officers ... etc. etc. What is interesting among the Polish intelligentsia were normal people, publicists who doubted this. Now ... they themselves have recognized. So then why be surprised Russophobia of the same Poles!?!
    1. Medvedb
      Medvedb 30 May 2014 20: 13
      +2
      In the 90s, it seemed that TV presenters and cultural figures in general announced a competition who would more heavily mud the Soviet period of history.
      For me, my country as a Mom, you can not help but love and you must accept as it is.
  33. sv68
    sv68 30 May 2014 19: 26
    0
    ukroina jumped to her fiasco from the moment she proclaimed her independence — we see the result. that means we can no longer be trusted by such people as ukrointsy and let us be enemies, but the masks were dropped and we saw the true face of those whom we mistakenly considered brothers
  34. Plastun
    Plastun 30 May 2014 19: 27
    +2
    there are Russians: Ukrainians, Belarusians, Russians, one people, one language, different dialect (MOV does not count, because surzhik), but what happens in Ukraine, the betrayal of ancestors, Kievan Rus, Rod, there will be no forgiveness! And blaming Russia is a national tradition of the ancient ukrov! sadness ...
  35. sem-yak
    sem-yak 30 May 2014 19: 31
    0
    The whole audience in Russia, which brutally deceived the Ukrainians, reinforcing them in the desire to oppress the Russians, bears their share of responsibility for shedding blood, and someday, I am sure, Ukrainians will take revenge on everyone who set them up and sent them to death.
    Author Sergey Kornev

    The author, what is this nonsense?
    It’s not even porridge, it’s a swamp slurry! Nothing!
    There is Russian and there is Benderlog, and Ukriina is the name of the territory where they coexist!
    And do not pull crap on the wattle fence!
  36. uzer 13
    uzer 13 30 May 2014 19: 32
    0
    Games in superethnos, as always, led to the division of the state into parts.
  37. homosum20
    homosum20 30 May 2014 20: 06
    +2
    He works for me a man from the Lugansk region. He jumped off - his friends remained. Russians. Essentially, having remained, one has to be active (activists). So more and more often (he says), their relatives answer from their phones. What such-and-such was shot dead by unknown people in the evening on the street.
    According to him, a punitive operation is not only shooting from a cannon from a hill near Slavyansk. This is an active shooting of pro-Russian activists in the deep rear of the republics. Where no one protects them. And activists are needed everywhere (the state is not only the front, and in the first place - not the front). Where is it taken into account. What will end.
  38. Medvedb
    Medvedb 30 May 2014 20: 09
    +1
    I agree with the author, but add that this aggravation is rather not a natural process, but a side effect of the Maidan, based on the existing contradictions in Ukrainian society, exclusively by the West.
  39. batonoGivi
    batonoGivi 30 May 2014 20: 25
    0
    By the way, in this case, I call Russians not only “Russians by passport”, but also all those in Ukraine who are equated with Russians by the Ukronazi propaganda itself: all who are turned away from Bandera, from law-enforcement officers, from impudent lies, from the vile snouts of the oligarchy , to which the "right Ukrainians" swore allegiance and wish to feed their children. This is generally a “terrible secret” of the Ukrainian conflict, which is beneficial for us Russians to hide from the Ukrainians themselves: the conflict in Ukraine is not between “ethnic Ukrainians” and “ethnic Russians”, but mainly between different local sub-ethnic groups (Galicians, Little Russians, and New Russians), who are at varying degrees of remoteness from the Russians. But if the ukronacists themselves, by their idiocy, are ready to write to the “Russians” all those who are being turned back from the ukronacism of the Galician spill, then we should be glad about this. You see, people themselves will believe that they are Russian. "Turns from Bandera, from pravosekov, from the greasy Hari Piglet Peter? Do you want to speak Russian? Do you want to be proud of Victory? It means that you are not Ukrainian, but ours, Russian! ”
    But in general - there are beautiful words, I don't remember literally, how unfortunately I don't know whose - "a person of the nationality in what language he THINKS". And they think in Russian - a lot more than half of Ukraine. It is a pity that only many in Ukraine do not think at all!
  40. Demon
    Demon 30 May 2014 20: 33
    0
    totally agree with the author
  41. komrad.klim
    komrad.klim 30 May 2014 20: 37
    0
    500% ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++
  42. vezunchik
    vezunchik 30 May 2014 20: 38
    +1
    An interesting article appeared:
    An anonymous letter came to the editorial office of New Russia, the text of which seemed rather interesting to us. We invite you to familiarize yourself.
    The behavior algorithm of the Darkest is simple, like a loaf for thirteen kopecks and has never changed in many years.
    Putin always follows the pattern: Offering an opponent a mutually beneficial compromise, in case of refusal - punishment, indicative flogging, offering a new compromise on much less favorable terms - in case of refusal - punishment, indicative flogging, proposing a new ...
    And so - cycle by cycle with increasing rates.
    Do not believe? Then I will give some examples:
    1) Half-forgotten - when the Chechen gang republic, recognized de facto, climbed up to its neighbors, it was completely destroyed - the West tried to protest - received an answer that Russia had brand new Voevoda-class missiles - on that the homosexuals shut up.
    2) More recent: Georgia was offered the autonomy of Ossetia and Abkhazia - followed by a refusal with aggression - in response to punishment, elimination of decisions - recognition of the autonomy of the republics was offered to the European Union - refusal, attempt to pump rights - Ossetia and Abkhazia were completely seized, became independent states - on this homosexuals and shut up
  43. vezunchik
    vezunchik 30 May 2014 20: 38
    +4
    3) A recent example: Lavrov’s proposal of the EU trilateral negotiations on Ukraine - refusal - followed by a loan to Yanukovych and failure to sign - the USA and the EU did not accept a compromise, organized a Maidan - got an illegitimate government with 50 yards of debt and a proposal for the federalization of Ukraine with high status autonomies - refused - instead of a referendum on autonomy, Crimea holds a referendum on entering Russia - they did not recognize the right of the people to a referendum - Crimea appeared in Russia not in May, but in March, and the proposal for federalization of the remaining regions remains valid.
    It is easy to guess that the refusal of the Kiev Banderaites from Putin’s conditions will lead to the confiscation of all the Southeast regions, which the American junta was unable to properly manage, and Kiev will have to take on all their debts. Refuse - it is better to hang themselves immediately, so as not to suffer. They themselves abolished the death penalty, as far as I remember?
    And my advice to you for the future: If Putin offers some kind of compromise - immediately agree, shake hands with him and swear eternal friendship.
    Try to wander: after a couple of "cycles" of resistance, your best friends will drown you in the toilet so that you don't spoil their lives.
    1. Grishka cat
      Grishka cat 30 May 2014 22: 51
      +1
      Yes, it really is. "Don't make me angry, I'll kill." / Antonio Agro. "The Italians in Russia."
  44. Giant thought
    Giant thought 30 May 2014 20: 42
    +1
    The artificial division of the fraternal peoples: Russian and Ukrainian, which the Anglo-Saxian ideologists succeeded in, is the root cause of the conflict, if the Russian people are used to such special operations and have immunity against this infection, then the Ukrainians, having gained independence for the first time, are a little lost in time and space . But let's hope that the current development of events in Ukraine will lead to the enlightenment of the consciousness of Ukrainians.
  45. raptor1975
    raptor1975 30 May 2014 21: 26
    +1
    Eh, as if I would like for the Russian Air Force to work on the accumulations of the Ukrainian security forces, so that they just .... fear and scatter, but this is a delicate policy and everything must be done carefully here. But nevertheless, I am tormented by the question: if the security forces begin to coordinate methods, that is, to a total sweep, how will Moscow react ??? I think that Churkin and Lavrov are unlikely to help in this situation.
    1. nick.shukin2015
      nick.shukin2015 30 May 2014 22: 31
      +1
      I also wait for the patience of our government to burst. It's time to choose between money and your people. Money is something that really does not exist in nature. And there are people who are very good people who seem to have begun to believe a little bit of power. Do not take away from us a ray of hope for your decency, even if it is not there, do as you should and everything will be ...
  46. muginov2015
    muginov2015 30 May 2014 21: 47
    +2
    Once again, the bitter truth is confirmed, the most fierce enemies, these are quarreling brothers.
  47. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 30 May 2014 21: 56
    0
    Ukrainians were outraged that the Russians from Russia consider them younger brothers and look down upon. IMHO, what nafik brothers? They are more like a mongrel sitting in our hallway, who suddenly imagines herself equal to a person. And barks and is angry, trying to prove it to the rest of the world. That's right, that little stupid bandera said - we will never be brothers. As well as sisters and relatives in general. A person cannot be related to an animal.
    1. Grishka cat
      Grishka cat 30 May 2014 22: 56
      +1
      I completely agree with you, Darwin has not been canceled yet! laughing
  48. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 30 May 2014 22: 27
    +1
    Already there is no one, the former, Ukraine and will no longer be. And this should have been understood by those in Kiev. But they themselves are not masters. And it’s a pity that the upcoming war will take more than one hundred people (I don’t want to talk about thousands for it’s scary) the Southeast will not abandon its demands, other regions will join them. And actually nothing can be helped, since this war is most wanted by the bastard-Americans and the Geyropeans.
  49. zol1
    zol1 30 May 2014 22: 29
    +1
    yurasumy
    May 30th, 10: 48
    "Defense Minister" of Ukraine Koval believes that chemical weapons will be used against Slavyansk.

    Militiamen in Slavyansk are preparing to blow up containers with toxic substances. Defense Minister Mikhail Koval said this at a briefing broadcast by 112 Ukraine TV channel.

    “We are not working slowly. We are working so that there are no casualties among the civilian population. The separatists are preparing to undermine the poisonous tanks in Sloviansk. There are enough tanks with toxic substances there. We are now also reacting to this,” Koval said.

    This executioner and assassin knows full well that the militias will not. In this case, they themselves will fall into the zone of action of poisons. And why would they poison their children, mothers, wives, brothers and sisters? ok Koval certainly does not speak. But the duped "aboriginality" in Ukraine is disaccustomed to thinking and this statement is intended for them. And also for "compassionate" Europeans, who are also not accustomed to think.

    The junta is preparing to commit another heinous crime and blame others for everything. Only by "blowing up" the information field can we prevent this.

    MAXIMUM REPOST. LET ALL PEOPLE ON THE EARTH LEARN ABOUT THIS.
    1. Bear
      Bear 31 May 2014 12: 48
      0
      I'm afraid this may mean that the Kiev cannibals are going to blow them up themselves. With the current tsunami of lies, hypocrisy and cynicism, all this will be unambiguously attributed to the actions of the "separatists".
  50. nick.shukin2015
    nick.shukin2015 30 May 2014 22: 37
    +1
    All clear. Everyone understands. All are smart. And the army seems to be there. And the truth is on our side. And they all fly and shoot. How long?