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And the Germans have no agreement

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And the Germans have no agreement



Germany has many new features that appeared and manifested in the past quarter century - after the collapse of the socialist camp. Not all of them are widely known in our country, although they are very curious.

A trip to Berlin for the ILA-2014 aerospace show made it possible not only to assess the level of high technologies of the Old World, but also to talk with the Germans, to ask their views on events in the country and the world, to ask about many things that remain outside the scope of television news gear. It was not very difficult to do this, since many Germans - former residents of the GDR - speak Russian well, and there are simply millions of Russian Germans in Germany.

My interest was also explained by the fact that once I, the son of a Soviet officer, lived for several years in the GDR, where I graduated from high school in the city of Schwerin. And for the rest of my life, my attitude towards Germany and the Germans remained the most benevolent.

I was interested in attitude to events in Ukraine.

German television is absolutely anti-Russian. In the reports from the Donetsk region, announcers assert that “Russian separatists” are fighting there. At the same time, everything that concerns the “Maidan” and its inhabitants is served in an exceptionally friendly light.
If in the winter the name of the newly elected president “Square” in the credits on the screen was written as Petr, then since April it has been written in Ukrainian: Petro. And all of it seems to be a kind of kind-hearted fat man - sweet and “in chocolate”. As the Germans themselves told me, in the plots about him it is emphasized that he owns the confectionery industry, and not the enterprise of the military-industrial complex. So, by definition, can not be aggressive and evil. In the western understanding of the master of the chocolate business - people almost with a childish mind who want goodness and an abundance of sweets for everyone.

Most ethnic Germans have no desire to dwell on Ukrainian problems. Grandfathers and great-grandfathers died in Ukraine many, therefore this geographic name itself does not cause any warm feelings. Yes, and Chernobyl is not all forgotten.

Those who are interested in politics are divided into three parts. Some believe that Germany must urgently intervene to protect the sovereignty of the matured, finally, until the realization of its own state independence, that is, Ukraine. There are even those who call to send part of the Bundeswehr to the aid of Kiev. But they are a tiny minority. A much larger number of Germans are sure that this is an internal affair of the CIS - they know such an abbreviation there, and let Russia and Ukraine understand each other themselves. But there are some very advanced experts. storieswho openly say: Kiev illegally claims on lands that it never belonged to. In their opinion, Moscow is still too gently acting. Once this situation has developed, it is necessary to send troops throughout the territory of Little Russia - and they know this name - in order to return what has always been a part of Russia.

But there are also humanist liberals. In a fiercest way, those who belong to various Green parties are scourging Moscow. An amazing thing, Western environmentalists literally jump out of their pants and skirts, protesting against the extraction of shale gas, and, at the same time, demand to stop the “Russian aggression” in the Donetsk region, watering the leaders of our country with streams of verbal mud.

I asked one of the "greens": did he know that the United States had already developed plans for the mass production of shale gas just in the Donetsk region? Local residents are unhappy with this and, in particular, therefore, do not want to be under the authority of Kiev, which has already given the go-ahead for such works. He was genuinely surprised, said he did not know anything about it. And then he came to his usual state of "zombies" and shouted: this can not be, this is all Russian propaganda.

Indicative is the position of the Russian Germans - those in whom the blood of Germanic ancestors flows, but who, due to historical circumstances, was born and raised in the USSR or in independent republics after the collapse of the Union. A massive return to their historic homeland happened at the very end of the eighties and continued throughout the “dashing nineties”.

Adapting to new living conditions was difficult. The overwhelming majority remained “Rusaki”, although they mastered the German language well and settled well in the everyday plan.

So, all the Germans who once returned to Germany from Russia, Ukraine and the republics of Central Asia, with regard to the Russian-Ukrainian disputes, clearly on the side of Moscow.

Even those who still have family and friendly ties in Ukraine, to the current authorities in Kiev are, to put it mildly, condemning.

Literally in the last few years an interesting trend has emerged. Many Germans - immigrants from the USSR - turn to our embassy with a request to obtain Russian citizenship, without planning to refuse the German one. To travel to relatives and friends without tedious visa processing and to conduct business in Russia.

Mostly the workers' families returned to Germany - from miners, metallurgists, and collective farmers. They did not have the opportunity to become oligarchs. But they were able to establish themselves in the capitalist world, to stand firmly on their feet. And now they want to invest their own, even if small, capital in Russia, and not in Africa, and not even in Ukraine. Alas, neither our diplomats in Berlin, nor high politicians in Moscow, such aspirations seem to be incomprehensible. Getting a Russian passport was and remains a big problem for the Germans.

There are generally amazing cases. Young men from families of Russian Germans are already coming to the embassy, ​​wondering if it is possible to serve in the Russian army instead of in the Bundeswehr.

Such impulses can be attributed, probably, to youthful maximalism, especially since it is impossible to "retract" from service in one army, referring to service in another. But the facts are the place to be. Speaking of the Bundeswehr. All military analysts are a priori confident that the German armed forces are the most combat-ready in Western Europe. Is it so? After all, in order to win on the battlefield, you need not only the most modern equipment, but also fighting spirit.

In the army of modern Germany, everything is in order with technology. And with the spirit? If Hitler drove into the brains of the citizens of his country that they are superhuman, and all around are subhuman, then the Americans, who took up the re-education of post-war Germany, convinced the Germans that they were subhuman. Nurturing army personnel, aviation и fleet Germany, when this country was allowed to recreate its armed forces, was built on the universal values ​​of democracy and tolerance.

Well, they built a certain military structure with formidable and really the best in the world tanks "Leopard", which is controlled by amorphous, almost asexual entities, but not warriors.

Not that in Russia, in Germany, few people know about the growing number of suicides among Bundeswehr personnel - the press, under pressure from politicians, hides this. The cause of suicide can be any, from our point of view, a sheer trifle. Hazing in the German army is not, but they fool around over-aged stupid girls in military uniform. So, there was a case when strong guys robbed a “mama's son” of a chocolate bar that he was given for breakfast. The soldier did not tolerate humiliation, wept, left the dining room and ... hanged himself.

The Bundeswehr carries its military service before Washington in Afghanistan. The service there is selected very carefully. Only those who have already served in Germany, at the age of about thirty years. Solid, established men and, like, real warriors. And with all this, the number of suicides among the soldiers of the Bundeswehr in Afghanistan is one of the highest among all military contingents from different countries stationed in this country. For all the time of the Afghan epic, the German contingent has lost the soldiers who committed suicide there, much more than as a result of armed clashes.

And for what, in fact, modern German soldiers to go into a deadly battle? For pederasty, lesbianism, the expansion of the rights of the Arab and Turkish population of their country, for the financial burden that their country carries, containing virtually the entire crisis of Europe? For the financial interests of those who are just like that, for the sake of intimidation, did you burn down the peaceful Dresden with all its inhabitants? Maybe thinking about these questions, they climb into the loop?

An amazing thing that has not received publicity in Russia, nor any serious assessment. After the unification of the GDR and the Federal Republic of Germany, the East Germans were in almost all head and shoulders above the West - except for financial and material support.

The military personnel of the GDR army in vocational training and morale were better than those who served in the Bundeswehr. If the soldiers of the FRG army were brought up in a tolerant vacuum, then, strangely enough, the reflection of the victories of the Soviet Army fell on the GDR army. And the quality of combat training in the GDR was much better than in all NATO armies. However, in a quarter of a century everything was leveled.

Schoolchildren and students of educational institutions of the GDR, when they merged, were surprised to find that their outlook and general educational level was incomparably higher than that of their western peers. Again, why? The German school in the first half of the twentieth century was considered one of the best in the world, and the Russian was a copy of it. Later, the Soviet school continued the tradition of Russian, and, therefore, German. It turned out that the teaching culture was not interrupted in the GDR, although, of course, the basic values ​​had completely changed. And in Germany introduced the Americanized model of education. The results of the effectiveness of the two educational systems were evident. So why, in Russia, have thrown the best school in the world, middle and highest, into the dustbin of history, and began to copy the monkey’s western “pedagogical values”?

Realizing their intellectual loss, the West Germans simply began to criticize the East, calling them contemptuously "Aussie." They were hindered by career growth, in the case of crisis situations, they were fired in the first place, and other “tricks” did. This could not but cause internal resistance.

And it seems to me personally that a surge of nostalgia for the GDR in present-day Germany is not far off.

In this regard, I want to tell a story that, in turn, was told to me by an acquaintance who, in the nineties, went to the West to study design art. In the workshop of the famous master of industrial design, he met with a young German who worked as a carpenter. The guy was an interesting fate.

He was born and grew up in the GDR. Even a schoolboy imbued with Western values, became a complete dissident who hated his socialist homeland. Tried to flee to Germany. On the border he was caught, imprisoned. There he studied English and wrote letters to all international human rights organizations. Chancellor Helmut Kohl even stood up for him. And so, even before the collapse of the GDR, the guy was given freedom and released to the desired West. The Chancellor himself procured him a passport of a citizen of the free Federal Republic of Germany. A young man opened all the way! And in prison he became addicted to woodworking, became a good carpenter and carpenter, did not chase after many. He was important spirit of freedom. He breathed very quickly, living in a well-fed and absolutely free West Germany was so fed up with him that he went to Switzerland, where he found a job he liked.

My acquaintance was surprised that his new comrade, unlike the others, was distinguished by a hospitality that was not accepted in Europe, offered him beer, food, and never asked for money for it. Loved having drunk a beer, talk for life. And once gave such a philosophical thought. It turns out that while living in the GDR, he himself did not understand how free he was inside. And yet, as it turned out, the Russian spirit infiltrated through him, although he treated the USSR as an invader country.

So what is the main difference between the West and the East, in the opinion of that German? In the East, there is a Soul - with a capital letter, and in the West there is Money - also with a capital letter, but there is no Soul there.

It was difficult for the German to express all this in words, but he convinced the Russian interlocutor that even with complete freedom and financial prosperity it was very hard to live without a soul. And he expressed confidence that no matter how well the life of a Russian student in the West would be, he would still return to Russia. So it happened.

Here are just a brief impression from Germany and the Germans. Russia has many directions, developing which, it can become a very influential force in this country. And the main thing here, it seems to me, is not gas supplies at all. So, will we continue to ruin our educational system in favor of "world standards"? continue to ignore fellow countrymen, even if they are “Germans”? And, with great diligence deploying a well-paid PR campaign, we will start looking for a “new national idea”, forgetting that everything new is well forgotten old?
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  1. Giant thought
    Giant thought 30 May 2014 14: 44
    -24%
    But all Germans should not forget about May 9. If necessary, we can remind them of this.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 30 May 2014 15: 01
      +55
      Quote: Thought Giant
      If necessary, we can remind them of this.

      When I served in the German Democratic Republic, I saw the Germans taking care of and caring for the monuments to our soldiers, but we still haven’t found and buried them all. Only enthusiasts are engaged in this, the state is not up to it. What is the state of some burial places in OUR country, it’s better not to say - it's a shame. So it’s better to remind yours!
      1. AK-74-1
        AK-74-1 30 May 2014 15: 32
        +3
        I agree. So the disadvantages in their mass are normal calm people, very thorough.
        It's a shame that the then propaganda of both America and ours and the rulers inherently rulers made the occupying SOLDIER-WINNER.
        I was at duty stations in Germany. Many disadvantages regret the collapse of the USSR, everyone made money on it: dissidents, homosexuals, and ordinary people.
        Now part of the towns is falling apart, sometimes it seems that he came somewhere near Omutninsk or Yuryu, and not to well-fed Germany.
        And most importantly, people do not have fire in their eyes. Everything is somehow amorphous.
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 30 May 2014 15: 40
        +7
        Quote: Bayonet
        but we have not yet found and buried everyone.


        Do not forget that not all places are easily accessible. A lot of people were killed in 41 in the infamous Pinsk marshes and other similar places. And since Soviet times, every school had a monument and sponsored veterans. Everything changed later ...
      3. armageddon
        armageddon 30 May 2014 15: 46
        -9
        Hmm ... So who are YOU ...? If YOU are NOT YOURSELF ...? TURN ON THE BRAIN if they are !!! PPC ... Damn !!!
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      5. jktu66
        jktu66 30 May 2014 17: 56
        0
        What is the state of some burial places in OUR country, it’s better not to say - it's a shame. So it’s better to remind yours!
        In Kaliningrad, a monument was finally erected to the fallen 1 mv. One hundred years, Russian soldiers were in oblivion. And he himself saw the manicured monuments with fresh flowers to Soviet soldiers in Germany
    2. Nikita_Pilot
      Nikita_Pilot 30 May 2014 15: 24
      +2
      They do not forget. We are for them the liberators of fascism, only in the east.
      1. Lich
        Lich 30 May 2014 17: 27
        +8
        But all Germans should not forget about May 9. If necessary, we can remind them of this.

        Who are "we? Frontline sort commanders? Generals of divan divisions? Ugh damn it.

        The German saved my grandfather in a concentration camp, and I respect the Germans, and there is nothing to remind them of. And most of all, the overseers from Asians and Ukrov were atrocious - brothers, bl..t ours
        1. Nikita_Pilot
          Nikita_Pilot 30 May 2014 17: 54
          +1
          Wow, something completely different happened to my grandfathers. And they told me definitely not about the "liberators." The Germans of that period considered themselves "supermen", and considered others as slaves and biomass (Jews). They wanted to make a large part of the planet ( Arabs, blacks and most of Europe). Here they and no one, and did not spare because they thought that "we are supermen, and they all will be killed exactly."
    3. armageddon
      armageddon 30 May 2014 16: 10
      -8
      Damn ... Some great UKR ALL MINUSES ... PPC !!!
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    5. White53
      White53 30 May 2014 16: 28
      +2
      I did not sing for a long time and sang gvno !!!
      1. Oprychnik
        Oprychnik 30 May 2014 17: 17
        +3
        "The German school in the first half of the twentieth century was considered one of the best in the world, and the Russian one was its copy."
        Blatant lie! The Russian school has ALWAYS been one of the best in the world. And now they study in Israel using Soviet textbooks. The fact that they now have a good education and students have become simply stupid is the fault of our "advanced" officials. For example, I will give a picture "Oral account in a rural school." Http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/454/gaov758.jpg
        What is written on the blackboard cannot be decided in the mind of either seventh graders, or graduate students, or even sophomores of mathematical universities.
        1. jktu66
          jktu66 30 May 2014 18: 01
          0
          oh, that now they have been educated in the field of chemistry, and the students have become simply stupid - the fault of our "advanced" officials
          And a good income for these same officials
      2. Oprychnik
        Oprychnik 30 May 2014 17: 29
        +1
        "The German school in the first half of the twentieth century was considered one of the best in the world, and the Russian one was its copy."
        Blatant lie! The Russian school has ALWAYS been one of the best in the world. And now they study in Israel using Soviet textbooks. The fact that they now have a good education and students have become simply stupid is the fault of our "advanced" officials. For example, I will give a picture "Oral account in a rural school." Http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/454/gaov758.jpg
        What is written on the blackboard cannot be decided in the mind of either seventh graders, or graduate students, or even sophomores of mathematical universities.
  2. Rostovchanin
    Rostovchanin 30 May 2014 14: 48
    +26
    The results of the effectiveness of the two educational systems were evident. So why in Russia they threw the “best school in the world” - the middle and the highest — into the dustbin of history, and started monkey copying of Western “pedagogical values”?

    here in the top ten !!! 1000% Russian and Soviet pedagogical systems were the best!
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 30 May 2014 14: 59
      +14
      Quote: Rostovchanin
      Russian and Soviet pedagogical systems were the best!

      Somewhere among the books that were not yet sorted after the move, I have a collection of trigonometry problems for grammar schools of the early 20th century edition. For our current schoolchildren, the tasks are beyond the limits.
      1. shuhartred
        shuhartred 30 May 2014 15: 27
        +2
        Quote: retired
        a collection of trigonometry problems for grammar schools of the early 20th century edition.

        Grammar school is not a school. A completely different level.
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 30 May 2014 16: 59
          +1
          Quote: shuhartred
          Grammar school is not a school. A completely different level.

          Yes. But after all, more than a hundred years have passed, however ...
      2. Gxash
        Gxash 30 May 2014 15: 34
        +5
        The Germans have always been very pragmatic. This is probably the ideal in terms of production efficiency, engineering and other highly and not very technological products and their production. Not for nothing, even in the golden era of the formation of the Russian State, they traveled to Holland and Germany to study. They are very hardworking and decent people. It was the Germans, and not the rabble that "came in large numbers here" and like "I'm a German."

        Russians are savvy. The need for inventions of cunning is about us. :) We would have their pragmatism! And our thinking is broader, we think not according to standards, schemes or rules. That's what we take!
    2. Biolant
      Biolant 30 May 2014 15: 33
      +2
      And her traitors threw in the form of a benny and others like him. in a coffin will be turned over ((Children because of this fucking USE end with suicide.
    3. semen777
      semen777 30 May 2014 16: 53
      +3
      Yeah, I look at my children, and I go nuts about what they are taught at school (and most importantly how), I tried to delve into it and realized that I would be an excellent student with my 3 and 4 in the current system! at the top, turn the shafts towards the Soviet system of education, which means that some scum is sitting, paid by the Americans, and inserts sticks!
  3. fedor13
    fedor13 30 May 2014 14: 51
    +4
    The Russian soul is dark, and the German dark is with labyrinths. The Germans would not pity, but it is worth dealing with them.
    1. Kapitan Oleg
      Kapitan Oleg 30 May 2014 15: 23
      +10
      My grandmother told me that after the war, captive Germans worked near the house in Moscow where she lived, laying a narrow gauge railway to bakery No. 8 in Cherkizovo. So in the evenings, they went with these girlfriends to these Germans to transfer bread, they fed them, because they felt sorry for them. And this is despite the fact that many in our family died in the war. This is the Russian soul.
  4. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol 30 May 2014 14: 54
    +17
    In the East there is a Soul - with a capital letterand in the West there is Money - also with a capital letter, but the Soul is not there.

    The Most Important Thought in This Article!
  5. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS 30 May 2014 14: 55
    +7
    America, or rather those who are behind it, deliberately destroys, dulls its population and the inhabitants of Europe. Someone begins to understand this, but they can’t do anything.
    1. arch_kate3
      arch_kate3 30 May 2014 15: 37
      +4
      Maybe it's time to name those who stand behind the state government? Let them know what we know!
  6. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 30 May 2014 14: 56
    +10
    Good everyday notes about German society ... it is heterogeneous ... Western and Eastern are still completely different in thinking and assessments. The Germans of the former German Democratic Republic grew up in the absence of Turks and Arabs in their cities ... and still see more harm in national immigrants than anything else. It is difficult to relate to Russia ... many believe ... and reasonably enough ... that we betrayed them during the reunification of Germany.
    Our former Soviet Germans ... they are more Soviet ... their children partially perceive a good attitude towards Russia ... how long it will last is unknown.
    1. a52333
      a52333 30 May 2014 15: 25
      +6
      In order to win souls in the West, and in Germany in particular, Russia needs to act as a guide for the blind, a new Moses who will lead the peoples of Europe out of the POW of juvenile justice, sodomy and greed.
      Sorry for the pompous words.
      They will follow us.
    2. Fish supervision
      Fish supervision 30 May 2014 16: 14
      0
      Sorry Dear, I understand your comment on the soul. I can’t understand with the mind, again, are they to blame. Are they bored? recourse Who betrayed whom?
  7. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 30 May 2014 14: 58
    +9
    If RUSSIA and GERMANY are on the same side, no one will defeat them.
    1. Sanglier
      Sanglier 30 May 2014 15: 44
      +1
      This is Bismarck said.
    2. mazhnikof.Niko
      mazhnikof.Niko 30 May 2014 16: 13
      +1
      Quote: cerbuk6155

      cerbuk6155


      Today, 14: 58

      ↓ New


      If RUSSIA and GERMANY are on the same side, no one will defeat them

      Oh, with your mouth - honey would drink.
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  8. g1v2
    g1v2 30 May 2014 15: 03
    +5
    I hope the Germans remember something and will not allow them to be driven to the eastern front for the third time. The most moronic is that we never had a dispute over the territories, our kings were relatives of their Kaiser, we and they needed an alliance, but the Angles deftly divorced us on opposite sides of the barricades and as a result both their and our empires fell apart. We have lost tens of millions of people, they too. And now they are vassals of the United States and many understand this. 74 thousand amer soldiers are not in vain standing in Germany. This is an extreme means of influencing the Germans, and if they don’t obey, they will have their Czechoslovak spring arranged for them. In general, I believe that the GDP is not in vain addressing the German people directly, rallies in Germany and the booing of a rabbit prove it.
  9. maxbrov74
    maxbrov74 30 May 2014 15: 03
    +2
    The youth there, in large numbers, are convinced that the Russians bombed Dresden and Hamburg on the orders of Stalin. And that our soldiers, having entered Germany, raped half of the Germans, including children and old women.
    1. screw cutter
      screw cutter 30 May 2014 15: 13
      +4
      I’m thinking those Germans who get to know the Russians better simply stop believing in their media about the treachery and cruelty of the Russians.
  10. kvnvolga2008
    kvnvolga2008 30 May 2014 15: 06
    +2
    Well done, our Germans!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 30 May 2014 17: 22
      +4
      Quote: kvnvolga2008
      Well done, our Germans!

      About a hundred people came to the building of the town hall, where the events were held, to demand that a new war in Europe be prevented and "to stop the American terror in Ukraine," radio station Deutschlandfunk reports. The audience chanted "Yatsenyuk is a terrorist".

      Reportedly, the participants of the impromptu rally were holding posters with the words "Yatsenyuk, you were not invited here", "Kiev, hands off Donbass", "Stop the murder of innocent people", "Save the people of Donbass". Residents of Germany also shouted to Yatsenyuk that he was a "terrorist" and "murderer" responsible for Kiev's unleashing of a bloody massacre. The politician was also declared an accomplice of the Nazis. There were also demands for an end to American interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine.

      Express Zeitung considered the appearance of Yatsenyuk in Germany a manifestation of "pure cynicism" and discrediting the prize. Charlemagne. "How can you invite a politician responsible for the massacre in Odessa and the war against his own people to the awards ceremony? How blind do you need to be to not understand what is happening in Ukraine? Maybe we will also present him with the Dachau Memorial Award for Civil Courage?" - the newspaper is indignant.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 30 May 2014 17: 22
      +1
      Quote: kvnvolga2008
      Well done, our Germans!

      About a hundred people came to the building of the town hall, where the events were held, to demand that a new war in Europe be prevented and "to stop the American terror in Ukraine," radio station Deutschlandfunk reports. The audience chanted "Yatsenyuk is a terrorist".

      Reportedly, the participants of the impromptu rally were holding posters with the words "Yatsenyuk, you were not invited here", "Kiev, hands off Donbass", "Stop the murder of innocent people", "Save the people of Donbass". Residents of Germany also shouted to Yatsenyuk that he was a "terrorist" and "murderer" responsible for Kiev's unleashing of a bloody massacre. The politician was also declared an accomplice of the Nazis. There were also demands for an end to American interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine.

      Express Zeitung considered the appearance of Yatsenyuk in Germany a manifestation of "pure cynicism" and discrediting the prize. Charlemagne. "How can you invite a politician responsible for the massacre in Odessa and the war against his own people to the awards ceremony? How blind do you need to be to not understand what is happening in Ukraine? Maybe we will also present him with the Dachau Memorial Award for Civil Courage?" - the newspaper is indignant.
  11. Vlad Gore
    Vlad Gore 30 May 2014 15: 07
    +2
    So what is the main difference between the West and the East, in the opinion of that German? In the East, there is a Soul - with a capital letter, and in the West there is Money - also with a capital letter, but there is no Soul there.
    Europe has a choice. You can continue to grovel in front of the United States. And you can be free from dictates from across the ocean. To do this, you need to change the hostile attitude towards Russia to a friendly one. And then Europe in the person of Russia will receive a reliable ally and partner. Which in cases of which can help and protect. good
  12. screw cutter
    screw cutter 30 May 2014 15: 11
    +1
    "So what is the main difference between the West and the East, according to that German? In the East there is a Soul - with a capital letter, and in the West there is Money - also with a capital letter, but there is no Soul there."
    He correctly noted. This explains a lot, even animal cruelty, a person with a soul is incapable of cruelty and atrocities, and a warrior who fights with his soul is simply invincible.
  13. RBLip
    RBLip 30 May 2014 15: 15
    +4
    article plus. one more confirmation that Russia is the soul of the world. accordingly, Europe is the navel of the world, and the United States is its (peace) ass.
  14. Altona
    Altona 30 May 2014 15: 17
    +5
    Do with us, do as we do, do better than us ... In Germany, by the way, there are so many patriots of Russia that you are even surprised ... And they already write letters to their media about Ukraine, and hold rallies on the topic "Why are we being held for suckers? "
  15. pts-m
    pts-m 30 May 2014 15: 21
    +2
    There’s just nothing to add. As they say ... time will tell who is right and who is to blame ... they’ll only look from the present at the given time.
  16. 290980
    290980 30 May 2014 15: 22
    +3
    So, all the Germans who once returned to Germany from Russia, Ukraine and the republics of Central Asia, with regard to the Russian-Ukrainian disputes, clearly on the side of Moscow.


    it’s true, but the Jews living in Germany are all as one for the right-wingers .... surprisingly)))

    on fighters in hot spots is also true (probably except for the selected chocolate laughing ), GDRs or Germans from the former USSR are recruited to special forces
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 30 May 2014 15: 55
      +2
      Quote: 290980
      but the Jews living in Germany are all as one for the right-wingers .... surprisingly)))

      Well, create a Judenschwein assault battalion out of them and hand them over to Yarosh!
    2. White53
      White53 30 May 2014 16: 35
      0
      And where did such categorical information about German Jews come from? Was it not Psaki who shared the info?
      1. 290980
        290980 30 May 2014 16: 51
        0
        And where such categorical information about German Jews


        I’ll clarify here, I didn’t mean the Germans, but the Jews from the former USSR living in Germany. Where from? from personal communication. They used to be all with anti-Russian sentiments, but right now they generally threw off masks.
  17. Bezarius
    Bezarius 30 May 2014 15: 27
    +5
    And yet, as it turned out, the Russian spirit permeated it through, although he regarded the USSR as an occupying country.

    Yes, Russian, it’s not only nationality, it’s a state of mind :)
  18. Vadim12
    Vadim12 30 May 2014 15: 28
    +3
    "Leopard" is not the best in all respects. For some characteristics, yes, but not for all. And the price is very high.
    1. 290980
      290980 30 May 2014 15: 45
      +2
      "Leopard" is not the best in all respects


      yes, he’s the best, he’s the best ... if you dig a merkava then there are 70-80% of the leo wink
      1. Fish supervision
        Fish supervision 30 May 2014 16: 20
        +2
        Here a lot depends on those inside the tank hi
  19. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 30 May 2014 15: 29
    +5
    So, all the Germans who once returned to Germany from Russia, Ukraine and the republics of Central Asia, with regard to the Russian-Ukrainian disputes, clearly on the side of Moscow.

    YES SIR!
    Everyone I know personally, who went to permanent residence in Germany, and purely German families, and mixed ones, everyone is sick for Russia, and they remember the USSR with warmth!
  20. Grbear
    Grbear 30 May 2014 15: 30
    -4
    About the soul and school - that's right. But the Germans should not be "sorry". The Teutonic spirit has not gone anywhere. He and a grudge against everything Russian will not make us friends. In one den ...
    1. Grbear
      Grbear 30 May 2014 22: 03
      0
      What? Catholics on the site are active?
      The Germans are neither good nor bad (as long as they do not climb). They are not ours.
  21. Ymato88
    Ymato88 30 May 2014 15: 30
    -3
    know-how
  22. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 30 May 2014 15: 31
    +1
    soul where there is no money
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    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 30 May 2014 15: 54
      +18
      Quote: Maksim1
      They remember the "Swabians", they know the "Yankees" There is only one folk truth: "A katsap cannot live without drunkenness, And only organizes war!" There are a lot of gods in katsap, Multilingual, for any person! And in Russia there are most of all enemies ! It's not worth it to go to the katsap collective farm, There is a deplorable experience of 300 years! Katsap will not build a fence, And there is always no vodka for a drink! Only amateurs do not know, There are many such people in us, That the katsap are occupiers drive! katsapnya, why don't you support your good tradition and lower the prices of abortions and you have fewer mouths in your family and the world, it will become easier to live, do at least something good, disappear from the earth, without you everyone will be better, even yourself, you are just a misunderstanding, a mistake of nature, you are all chronic alcoholics and drug addicts.

      Listen Khokhlo-Idiot, what kind of sofa you got here from the Maydanuty Square, huh? Why not in the trenches near Slavyansk? Or it’s safer to shit on the site than to fight with Babai, and now they’ll catch up too, they’re angry now and they’ll play football with your stupid little head. So, that won’t be a bastard. Better admire your outgoing predecessors:




      Well, from the last:


      a mercenary killed in Tskhinval whose documents were found in the name of Gennady Viktorovich Borisenko, b. 1966, resident of Lviv (Ukraine). A similar fate awaits you, although it looks like you may be too cowardly and can only crap on sites ...
      P.S. By the way, and where is the admin, ban the idiot, he already earned it
    2. smile
      smile 30 May 2014 15: 57
      +4
      Maxim1
      :)))
      Shaw, the orderlies in your fool went out to smoke, and you still got to the laptop? :)))
      I ask you to write more often, otherwise we sometimes forget here that the independent people simply personify universal nonsense.
      Farewell, son of the neighbor of the brother of the father of the mother of madness. :)))
      1. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov 30 May 2014 16: 05
        +3
        Quote: smile
        the son of the neighbor of the brother of the father of the mother of madness.

        And in the morning you were more tolerant towards them!
        Did you get it?
    3. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 30 May 2014 16: 03
      +2
      Quote: Maksim1
      , you are all chronic alcoholics and drug addicts.

      Judging by your "rhymes", this is you just a chronic and a junkie!
      What would impress, couldn’t steal anything more decent on the Internet?
      Another stone in the old days of Darwin! What the hell is evolution? request
    4. belij
      belij 30 May 2014 16: 04
      +1
      You look at your maidan for a start
    5. Bayonet
      Bayonet 30 May 2014 16: 40
      +1
      Quote: Maksim1
      disappear from the earth, without you everyone will be better

      And who will you blame for all your troubles, bitch tribe?
    6. genabukin
      genabukin 30 May 2014 16: 47
      0
      dill schnick, I teach with young people and I see that now even smoking is considered a "bastard", and how many submissions to the government have been written by students about the prohibition of alcohol trade, you don't have to judge from your garbage dump what is happening here, so stop blowing your fart smoke and stay nobody can touch
  24. AleksPol
    AleksPol 30 May 2014 15: 35
    +2
    Fly in the ointment.
    Corvette of the Baltic Fleet "Boyky" refused to participate in "Kiel Week"
    An invitation from the military sailors has been on hand since last year, but today it became known that the German authorities will not let the Russian ship on the largest sea holiday in Northern Europe
    http://kaliningrad.rfn.ru/rnews.html?id=103897&cid=7

    And further.
    The organizers of the annual international conference on missile defense, which will take place on June 17-20 in Mainz (Germany), rejected the application for participation of Russian representatives. The Russian Foreign Ministry called this decision an "ostrich" approach.

    http://ria.ru/world/20140530/1009968384.html
  25. gunter_laux
    gunter_laux 30 May 2014 15: 36
    +5
    Good article! My relatives in Germany argue the same way!
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    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 30 May 2014 16: 11
      +4
      Listen shkolota, would you have come up with something else or you’re like a parrot

      I repeat the question again. Why aren't you in the trenches near Slavyansk? Or the sofa does not let. Look, mom will come, she’ll put her ears on her and kick her out of the computer.

      P.S. once again, where are the admins, ban this idiot. It affects the nerves
    2. Fish supervision
      Fish supervision 30 May 2014 16: 34
      0
      Hey, the machine gun is independent. Go graze the hedgehogs by scratching the goat's navel am Well, forget in the register with NULAND for cookies to sign am You swim too finely, the ass sticks out above the water. The itch gelding is get on the censor am Grants will work out among like-minded people.
  27. Sanglier
    Sanglier 30 May 2014 15: 41
    +11
    A bit off topic, though ... My friends have been living in Stuttgart for 10 years (they work there), and my friend's wife gave out the following speech: The Germans are afraid of us (Russians). To the question "why" was given by them (the Germans) a paradoxical answer - If your women after a day of work prepare dinner, mess with the children and at the same time LOOK THIS, then what kind of men do you have !!!
  28. R150
    R150 30 May 2014 15: 52
    +6
    To the moderators: well, ban this wretched "maximko"
  29. stroporez
    stroporez 30 May 2014 15: 52
    +6
    Quote: Rostovchanin
    The results of the effectiveness of the two educational systems were evident. So why in Russia they threw the “best school in the world” - the middle and the highest — into the dustbin of history, and started monkey copying of Western “pedagogical values”?

    here in the top ten !!! 1000% Russian and Soviet pedagogical systems were the best!
    --- I am convinced --- education, this is our biggest loss .......
  30. wef
    wef 30 May 2014 16: 01
    +2
    Quote: ia-ai00
    Everyone I know personally, who went to permanent residence in Germany, and purely German families, and mixed ones, everyone is sick for Russia, and they remember the USSR with warmth!


    Here's an example: Elena Fischer. A famous singer in Germany. was born in Krasnoyarsk. "I'm Siberia" she says to her compatriots

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpCkR0jie9o
    1. gunter_laux
      gunter_laux 30 May 2014 18: 24
      0
      Heleha Fischer is the most popular German singer - Siberian and proud of it!
  31. Flipman
    Flipman 30 May 2014 16: 06
    +5
    my relatives live in Germany, so the native Germans are really afraid to contact the Russian Germans, they say that all Russian bandits, and if not bandits, they’ll even give me something if they say something bad!
    Russians and Germans are resting in a resort in Turkey for 2 hours already night! Well, the Russians are shouting at rest, the Germans can’t stand it and they say, respected already deep night, we’ll stop sleeping and we want the Russians to answer so you attacked us at 4 in the morning
  32. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 30 May 2014 16: 24
    +10
    Of course it is very a pity the GDR and its famous NNA, the only reliable ally of the Soviet Army in the entire Warsaw Treaty. Damn Judah Humpback, who destroyed this country ...

    But the attitude of modern Germans to events in Ukraine:
    The surprise of an old German who fought in the SS-Panzer-Division "Hitlerjugend"
    An acquaintance wrote from Germany. Next to him lives an old-old German grandfather, well over 90, but with a clear mind and still youthful curiosity. Grandpa fought in the SS-Panzer-Division "Hitlerjugend". After the war, he served in prison for exploits under Hitler. But he re-educated himself. And he is very ashamed of the "exploits" of youth. Recently he has been asking my friend about the events in Ukraine.
    Yesterday they had a dialogue. Grandfather asked what is the current situation in Ukraine. A friend of mine spoke about bombing raids on Slavyansk and Donetsk, about shelling sleeping areas of Slavyansk with howitzers.
    The German grandfather chewed his lips, thought and said: "You know, we did terrible things. We made a lot of mistakes. But we never bombed our own cities."

    http://da-dzi.livejournal.com/235691.html

    Caricature from the magazine "Bild"

    Dusseldorf, Germany, the traditional spring holiday of Rosenmontag

  33. b.t.a.
    b.t.a. 30 May 2014 16: 27
    +2
    Quote: Maksim1

    Maxim1


    Today, 15: 32


    Read the idiot (this is not your corrupt SMI) The World Health Organization has identified the most drinking country. Moldova-18.22 l. per capita, Czech Republic 16.45 l., Hungary 16.27 l., Russia 15.76 l., Ukraine 15.6 l., Estonia 15.52,. Not a finishing touch. And at the expense of Germany "Russians" Germans call the native Germans "potatoes" for their softness.
  34. 97110
    97110 30 May 2014 16: 45
    +3
    Impressions of the Germans:
    1. Do not overwhelm if in Russia
    2. They know and can use the Russian word "sisyastye", they understand Russian speech.
    3. About our reality: "nicht ordnung, nicht disciplines!", But they like it.
    4. If you put eight of the three Germans in the back seat, then upon delivery it turns out that their legs are messed up. Because the average German is longer by about a head longer than the average Russian, it is very clearly visible if a group of Germans is in the crowd of Russians.
    5. Easily amenable to Russian influence. In Duisburg, at breakfast I watched the acquaintance of 2 Germans and 2 Russian speakers. At about 0, hearing in the corridor I wanted a Russian mat with a terrible accent and powerful blows, I saw that two Germans were breaking the door to their room, with one of them in the orchestra.
    This is a personal experience. From the last century, but under the unified Germany.
  35. uzer 13
    uzer 13 30 May 2014 16: 53
    +1
    [quote] [And the Germans do not agree]

    When there is no agreement in comrades
    their case will not work out well ...
    I. Krylov

    Poster 20 years of the GDR.
  36. Bakunin
    Bakunin 30 May 2014 16: 57
    0
    Who knows - maybe soon the GDR will be reborn lol
    1. STEALS
      STEALS 30 May 2014 17: 28
      0
      And the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics)))
  37. mamont5
    mamont5 30 May 2014 16: 59
    0
    What an interesting article! Very nontrivial opinion. Got information for consideration. Thanks.
  38. shtorm1203
    shtorm1203 30 May 2014 17: 08
    +1
    my son is in school, as they are now teaching my heart bleeds, sheer nonsense. The class teacher immediately warned that with all her desire, due to the curtailment of the curriculum, she would not be able to prepare them for the EGE. Time has stung everywhere; much has been left out of the training program. One day, on September 1, I went to my former school and met my teacher of physics and astronomy, she said that now they are not studying astronomy, someone in Moscow decided that this is not the most important subject. I thought that in our time when we are trying to understand whether there is life on Mars, there should be more interest in this science than in our time, but it turned out that the Ministry of Education leads the future generation to think that the earth stands on three whales. These constant experiments in educational processes, with all the failures, lead to the fact that from year to year we lose generations of people, young people come to life without the knowledge necessary to become a strong support in the process of development of production. I usually say: if this is my teenage shift, then I will have to work up to a hundred years so that they have time to learn at least something. I once saw Medvedev's speech where he said that the current education system is much better than the old one, it prepares young people for life where there is electronics and computerization, but I'm sorry, this is our, so to speak, old generation, they sent a rocket into space, this is our backward generation the country's economy was kept in the first place, our generation, which supposedly studied the wrong way, created the defense industry, developed weapons models that still have no analogues in a highly educated world. Is it not time to still acknowledge and declare in full voice that the experiments with the school are aimed at the collapse of Russia's development plans, because From year to year, the country receives not young graduates interested in studying sciences, but ordinary low-grade bio material for low-skilled physical labor.
  39. STEALS
    STEALS 30 May 2014 17: 18
    0
    We have almost family relations with the Germans. We have Katya the Great - a purebred German was, and how much she did for Russia. And Crimea - the German made Potemkin hands)))) Everything will be fine
  40. STEALS
    STEALS 30 May 2014 17: 25
    0
    Quote: mamont5
    What an interesting article! Very nontrivial opinion. Got information for consideration. Thanks.


    God grant that our children do not come with such comments to such titles
  41. Zomanus
    Zomanus 30 May 2014 17: 31
    +1
    Nothing. Now new people have come to the European Parliament. So maybe we’ll also see how amers and others will be sent. France and the Mistrals have already sent them.
  42. YeSerg
    YeSerg 30 May 2014 17: 38
    +4
    cool article
    remembered a joke.
    Somali immigrant arrives in Berlin. He stops the first person he sees and says:
    “Thank you, sir.” Germany allowed me to live in this country, gave me housing, money for food, free medical care, free education and no taxes!
    Passerby answers:
    - You are mistaken, I am Afghan.
    A man goes further and meets another passerby:
    - Thank you for being such a beautiful country in Germany! etc.
    The man says:
    “I am not German, I am Iraqi!”
    The newcomer goes on to the next person, shakes his hand and says:
    - Thanks for the wonderful Germany!
    This man raises his hand and says:
    - I'm from Pakistan, I'm not from Germany!
    He finally sees - a lovely lady is coming. Asks:
    - Are you German?
    She says:
    - No, I'm from India!
    Puzzled, he asks her:
    - And where are the Germans?
    The Hindu checks the clock and answers:
    “So they are working now!”
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 30 May 2014 17: 55
      +2
      Quote: YeSerg
      Puzzled, he asks her:
      - And where are the Germans?
      The Hindu checks the clock and answers:
      “So they are working now!”

      Not a joke, but a sad reality.
  43. Oprychnik
    Oprychnik 30 May 2014 17: 38
    0
    I repeat the post, for some reason did not pass.
    "The German school in the first half of the twentieth century was considered one of the best in the world, and the Russian one was its copy."
    Blatant lie! The Russian school has always been one of the best in the world! The fact that it was dropped is the merit of narrow-minded officials. For example, the picture "Oral account in a rural school" http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/055/sxup489 .jpg
  44. YeSerg
    YeSerg 30 May 2014 17: 38
    +1
    1945 year. A lesson in a German school.

    - Hans, conjugate the verb to run.

    - I am running, we are running, you are running, you are running, he is running, she is running ...

    - And they?

    “And they are advancing, master teacher!”
  45. Oprychnik
    Oprychnik 30 May 2014 17: 46
    0
    "The German school in the first half of the twentieth century was considered one of the best in the world, and the Russian one was its copy."
    Blatant lie !!! The Russian school has ALWAYS been one of the best in the world! Today unscrupulous officials have turned it into a kind of American one. In Israel, Soviet textbooks on physics and algebra are still used. And the children have become stupefied! Picture "Verbal counting in a rural school." Http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/714/xjgh304.jpg
    Neither seventh graders, nor high school graduates, nor second-year students of mathematical universities can decide what is written on the board.
  46. Oprychnik
    Oprychnik 30 May 2014 17: 51
    0
    Particular indignation was caused by the phrase: "The German school in the first half of the twentieth century was considered one of the best in the world, and the Russian one was its copy." Three times I tried to insert a post with illustrations against. Was blocked three times. Minus!!!
  47. sv68
    sv68 30 May 2014 17: 58
    +1
    not all Germans are equally naive and burn with hatred towards us. they just forgot that you can be friends with us without fools and do business and just communicate. They've eaten their brains, so they consider us enemies. but nonsense, all this is well treated, five mugs of light beer with sausages, "brush" for dessert - and all people are brothers drinks
  48. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 30 May 2014 18: 48
    +1
    Strange, I'm sitting, rummaged in my soul. I did not even find hostility to the Germans (as a people). Although my grandfather was still in captivity in World War I. Of course I'm not a grandfather, but still. Probably friendship boys, service in the GSVG left their mark. Now it’s even a pity. There was a general impression, over the past century, they were bred specifically for the full. By the way, we are next in turn, hopefully we will survive.
  49. Twice RUSSIAN
    Twice RUSSIAN 30 May 2014 19: 05
    0
    I think it would not be bad for the German concerns, during the Patriotic War, to produce military equipment, thanks to which they destroyed the European part of the USSR, to throw themselves in the fight against Nazism.
    The Russians always shift Nazi earplugs to bury. laughing
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