DNI proposed Ukrainian security forces negotiations?

The command of the Ukrainian punitive detachments participating in the so-called anti-terrorist operation in the south-east announced that representatives of the Donbas militia turned to them in order to begin negotiations. At this, the ATO officers allegedly replied that they would enter into negotiations only after the “separatists” disarmed. Reports about it RIA News.

Meanwhile, the battle again appeared in the sky over Donetsk aviation Ukrainian Air Force, as well as unmanned aerial reconnaissance vehicles. Representatives of the militia of the DPR say that they managed to bring down one drone and insist that the city airport is under the control of the militias. On the official airport website that day in a row is reported on the continuation of the ATO, but the online scoreboard does not contain data on canceled flights.

Around 14: 00 local time in Donetsk, there was heard shooting near the building of the local branch of the Security Service of Ukraine, as well as in the area of ​​one of the hospitals. The city authorities warn citizens about the danger of entering the balconies of their apartments, moving around the city blocks where shooting is heard.

In the center of Donetsk, hundreds of miners came to the rally to the monument to the victims of fascism. People expressed a demand for Kiev to immediately stop the military operation against the residents of Donbass.

In Donetsk, they are also discussing the appearance of armed people on trucks and armored personnel carriers with Russian flags and inscriptions on the sides of the battalion “Vostok” armored vehicles. Ukrainian media in one voice say that they are “Kadyrov's envoys”. Kadyrov himself responded to these words with a post on Instagram:

Ukrainian sources are replicating messages that some “Chechen units” from Russia have invaded Donetsk. I officially declare that this is not true. No “Chechen servicemen” and even more so “Chechen military convoys” take part in the conflict. Chechnya is one of the subjects of the Russian Federation and, in accordance with the constitution, has no armed forces.

And adds information that clearly angers Kiev:

If in the conflict zone someone saw a Chechen, then this is his own business. Chechens 3 million, and two-thirds of them live outside of Chechnya, including in the West. We cannot and should not know which of them is going where, as they did not know in Kiev, who among Ukrainians went to fight in Grozny. If the Ukrainian authorities really want to see “Chechen units” in Donetsk, why go to Donetsk when there is a good road to Kiev?

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[DanSabaka]

reinforcements arrived on time ....

[MG42]

Poroshenko appealed to the United States for direct military assistance

Ukraine needs direct military assistance from the United States, such as Lend-Lease during the Second World War. This was stated by the leading candidate in the presidential elections of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, reports The Washington Post.
"At the moment we need a new security treaty, the same as the Lend-Lease (the Lend-Lease program during World War II assumed that the United States could provide its allies with weapons, equipment, ammunition free of charge, and after the end of hostilities they took they back, or sold for the civilian needs of the allies. - Gordonua.com). We must cooperate on military-technical and advisory assistance. We are ready to fight for independence, and we must strengthen the armed forces, "- said the politician.
Poroshenko, paraphrasing the words of US President Franklin Roosevelt, said that "when your neighbor's house is on fire, you should lend him your garden hose."
According to the non-factional deputy of BP, direct military assistance can be much more effective than economic sanctions against Russia.
"If a direct military aggression against Ukraine begins, no sanctions will help," the politician said.

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[Bodrov]

Quote: MG42

Poroshenko appealed to the United States for direct military assistance

He needs a special forces sabotage group ...
As they say there is no person no problem.
Ukraine has many problems and they need to be resolved ..

[foreman SA]

PIDING candidate!

[MG42]

Vladimir Putin will make the final decision on congratulating Petro Poroshenko on his election, when Ukraine will have the final official results of voting in the presidential election. This was stated by Assistant to the President of Russia Yuri Ushakov. He recalled that Putin "had already said in advance that we respect the results of the elections."

Federation Council speaker Valentina Matvienko told RIA Novosti that Russia will decide on its participation in the inauguration of Poroshenko after receiving invitations. “We will look at what proposals will be sent to the state for inauguration, after which we will determine our position,” she said. According to the speaker, the presidential elections in Ukraine were not without problems, but Moscow is still ready for a dialogue with Kiev, and this dialogue is necessary. “We respect the choice of the Ukrainian people, the people expressed it, and we are ready for dialogue with the new authorities that will be formed,” the senator noted.

Read on: http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/27077161/pomoschnik-putina-skazal-kogda-po
zdravyat-poroshenko # ixzz330q6O644

[vsoltan]

Oh, somehow I would not want such a shame ... and recognition of my weakness

[domokl]

If the United States, and they have already shown more than once that they are not friends with the head. They will begin to help Poroshenko, what will happen already will happen. Russia will begin to supply the South East army with modern weapons and air defense systems ... And then the Ukrainian land is also Americans it’s replenished decently ... Whoever is not buried there .. probably because of the fertility. and the soldiers don’t need to be there ... We learned how to fight already. Yes, and the mob’s resource is huge ... Now the main modern weapon ... And not just small arms, but heavy armored vehicles ...

[Orc-xnumx]

Quote: MG42

Poroshenko appealed to the United States for direct military assistance

Ukraine needs direct military assistance from the United States, such as Lend-Lease during the Second World War. This was stated by the leading candidate in the presidential elections of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, reports The Washington Post.
"At the moment we need a new security treaty, the same as the Lend-Lease (the Lend-Lease program during World War II assumed that the United States could provide its allies with weapons, equipment, ammunition free of charge, and after the end of hostilities they took they back, or sold for the civilian needs of the allies. - Gordonua.com). We must cooperate on military-technical and advisory assistance. We are ready to fight for independence, and we must strengthen the armed forces, "- said the politician.
Poroshenko, paraphrasing the words of US President Franklin Roosevelt, said that "when your neighbor's house is on fire, you should lend him your garden hose."
According to the non-factional deputy of BP, direct military assistance can be much more effective than economic sanctions against Russia.
"If a direct military aggression against Ukraine begins, no sanctions will help," the politician said.

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[Stalker]

Poroshenko did not have time to sit on the throne, but already said:
"First of all, we will return Crimea!"
Hello, come. You already returned it to us two months ago. Have you forgotten something?

[demon184]

His Ulya teaches

[Akvadra]

Chechens seem to them, dream of negotiations. They got stuck in the swamp of their cta, like pigs in shit, but they don’t know how to get out. So gush fantasies sick!

[neri73-r]

If the Ukrainian authorities really want to see “Chechen units” in Donetsk, why go to Donetsk when there is a good road to Kiev?

They took the city of Bryansk with battle, the whole city passed,
And read the last street name,
And the name is, right, the word battle:
Kiev street is walking around the city -
So it’s our way there,
So we are there
Kievskaya street leads us west. (c) May Comrade Utesov forgive me!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

That's for sure ..))) In dill, they already feel paranoia

Quote: Akvadra

Chechens seem to them, dream of negotiations. They got stuck in the swamp of their cta, like pigs in shit, but they don’t know how to get out. So gush fantasies sick!

[armageddon]

Bender felt the fast TRINDER ... Here is the YELLOW PIGS ... There will be Kebab SOON SOON !!! LET BE AFRAID !!!

[from punk]

Quote: Akvadra

Chechens seem to them, dream of negotiations.

I’m wondering why Chechens? Why not Cossacks, Ingush, and the same Ukrainians? here anyone can connect. all the more the nationality isn’t indicated in the passport of the Russian Federation. can such "Chechens" come that they will take it for the Arabs. And that Russia has used Al-Qaeda? think dill, think.

[Sterlya]

If the Ukrainian authorities really want to see “Chechen units” in Donetsk, why go to Donetsk when there is a good road to Kiev?

Well, behind them is the United States and the geyropa, and indeed, NATO. They think Kiev is just like Troy. Unacceptable, from Kiev you can bark and bark. (Sukashvili also thought safe in Tbilisi, they stopped him okay. Otherwise, he would have to hang on his tie) So we can run the Trojan horse there

[Reasonable, 2,3]

There will be no negotiations. As soon as you give up the slack, all bldg. They will agree, but then there will be destruction in the houses — don’t think about it.

[Lord of the Sith]

Here is another video for the news

[Lord of the Sith]

But granny talks about predictions. By the way, the Orthodox holiday of Peter and Paul on July 12

[Lord of the Sith]

The militia talks about the battle on May 26.

[Reasonable, 2,3]

Hero guy !!!!! Keep your heading on those.

[mig31]

Kiev has no faith, lies, deceit, violence, murders - this is just not a complete set of junta hypocrisy ...

[mad]

Surely the Nazis lie ...

[domokl]

Why are they lying? For me, a very real proposal ... The ATO got into a big ass. The military, and the national anal type of guards, are demoralized ... So it makes sense to stop disposing of ammunition and kill civilians and start talking.
Indeed, there is no task on the part of Strelkov’s army to seize territory outside the territory of Little Russia. But it may arise ... Kadyrov probably the first such option showed the junta ...

[Tartar]

Terror is the method of the Anglo-Saxons, dill only fulfill the will of P.I.
Not only performers, but also customers should be held accountable.

[Parvulus]

Again Kadyrov PR - although teasing skillfully)

[vsoltan]

Yes, well done, demonstrates the personal qualities and loyalty of Russia .... what if subsidies are cut back?

[vsoltan]

The people, inters as it turns out, themselves praise the Chechens, and in particular Kadyrov-for active actions .... and what do they forget from Russia they feed? Well, are you negative? Well minus, if you do not know how to count and think two steps forward

[Homo]

Quote: vsoltan

Yes, well done, demonstrates the personal qualities and loyalty of Russia .... what if subsidies are cut back?

And it never occurs to you that Kadyrov is far from being a stupid person and is acting according to the principle - "A thin world is better than a good war"! The same can be said about Putin, the benefit is mutual.

[vsoltan]

Thoughts come such-smart, cunning and will not miss her .... but certainly not a friend of Russia .... it is NOW profitable for him.
The link to the quote of the phrase about "a bad world ...." is not entirely clear - what is it for, please explain
PS in this context, "not stupid" is written together, colleague

[melnik]

Chechens are far from Indians. If Ramzan is confident in strength, there is strength. He knows more than ours

[Oleg Sobol]

We cannot and should not know which of them is going where, as they did not know in Kiev, which of the Ukrainians went to fight in Grozny. If the Ukrainian authorities really want to see “Chechen units” in Donetsk, why go to Donetsk when there is a good road to Kiev?

On the Kiev path
Let's go and go
Bandera meet
We are already coming to you!

[Muadipus]

By the example of Ukraine, you begin to understand that the policy of retaliation of Tsakhal is the most faithful and no one can even utter a word when it operates. I would not want to send troops to Ukraine, but Russia could help with the supply of weapons and the organization of a no-fly zone.

[aleks 62]

.... If in the conflict zone someone saw a Chechen, then this is his own business. 3 million Chechens, and two-thirds of them live outside Chechnya, including in the West. We cannot and should not know which of them is going where, as they did not know in Kiev, which of the Ukrainians went to fight in Grozny. If the Ukrainian authorities really want to see “Chechen units” in Donetsk, why go to Donetsk when there is a good road to Kiev? ...
... I really liked the passage ...

[Mhpv]

Quote: aleks 62

... I really liked the passage ...

Yeah, Klitschko before Kadyrov ... like cancer

[lukke]

If in the conflict zone someone saw a Chechen, then this is his personal affair. 3 million Chechens, and two-thirds of them live outside Chechnya, including in the West. We cannot and should not know which of them is going where, as they did not know in Kiev, which of the Ukrainians went to fight in Grozny.

Mr. Kadyrov! Why are you doing this ?! They are the kids! Their psyche may not stand it !!!

[old man]

not the psyche, but PSAKIK.

[Arh]

Pig snouts we will then see how you will drape without pants !!!)))

[Gloria45]

Meanwhile, combat aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force, as well as unmanned aerial reconnaissance aircraft, reappeared in the sky over Donetsk.

Well, in Ukraine, what happened earlier in other countries came true.
Wherever this dirty death trader, Bernard Henri Levy, appears, after a while, aerial bombing begins.
Poroshenko and Klyachko in Paris
After the reception at the Champs Elysees, Poroshenko and Klyachko went to a meeting with Parisian Ukrainians, which took place at the cinema on Saint-Germain-des-Prés Square on March 7th.
Poroshenko and Klyachko led to the square in a rather derogatory manner for state leaders.
Look, Ukrainians, who and how leads your president.
He is led by the French left-liberal-opportunist Henri-Levy.
How he holds the billionaire Poroshenko and the champion Klyachko by the shoulders in a businesslike manner. Like his thoroughbred horses.
Who is the boss here ???
http://tutuskania.livejournal.com/1642505.html

[nik-karata]

Indeed, why go to Donetsk, if the road to Kiev is better)))))

[Giant thought]

All Ukrainian media are lying because they don’t even indicate the subject of negotiations. But if help comes to the militias, then that’s good. Good luck guys, defenders of the Russian people in Ukraine.

[antikilller55]

A decent response to the Nazis))) I propose the United States on a lend-lease to Kiev to supply zinc coffins for law enforcement officers.

[max422]

Three weeks later, in the Donbass, barley with wheat should be removed ...
So the Nazis for about two weeks left there to max outrage ...
Then, in the course of grain harvesting, the banderlogs will have to be harvested only by a combine with a bit of another, as the harvest ripens in their areas with the subsequent cultivation of the fascists.

[typhoon7]

The time of the rallies has passed, the miners are needed with weapons at the forefront and not hundreds, but thousands.

[Naval]

"By the way, according to some sources, Ukrainian media are going to blind and expose a couple of my false appeals and" negotiations. "Be careful - if something" stunning "appears in the media - do not rush to believe."

Important warning from Strelkova I.I. As warned, everything appeared.
http://summer56.livejournal.com/127061.html

[INFOLegioner]

The fact that the media have been riveted by UKROP for a long time, apart from contempt and disgust, does not cause adequate people. This is already the Factories of Mass Disinformation and Propaganda, worse than Gebelssovskaya. Another bad thing is that their "product" is picked up and distributed further. But this is also a weapon, and very dangerous. I. Strelkov, by the way, understands this well.

[Dedjara]

... why go to Donetsk when there is a good road to Kiev?
-
But this phrase is especially good!

[Apollo]

Who is what much, who is about the anatomical features of a person, who is about artiodactyls. The topic of the branch is different. This is for those who forgot, a kind of reminder.

quote-The command of the Ukrainian punitive detachments participating in the so-called anti-terrorist operation in the southeast, announced that representatives of the Donbass militia turned to them in order to begin negotiations.

The head of the LPR: the militias did not ask for negotiations with the Kiev authorities
http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/5/28/688925.html

[kamarada]

and yet where is the no-fly zone, maybe it’s enough to be silent, enough, chewing snot. Where are Volodya's promises.

[navara399]

Good road to Kiev? And where are good roads in Ukraine? Last year I decided to cut off the navigator, a couple of times I jumped from the so-called federal highway, so I spit it all. THERE IS NO ROAD! In Russia, at least in some places, there is something, but not there. It was as if they were preparing for war in advance, such as driving a tank anyway))). So stupid right to Kiev! On the tanks!

[Bassman]

Some of this I think ....

[Kar Karych]

Extraordinary fake UkroSMI. Let's compare: reinforcements arrived to the DPR, Poroshenko asks NATO for help. It is more logical to assume that the junta proposed negotiations.

[Navy7981]

In the center of Donetsk, hundreds of miners came to the rally to the monument to the victims of fascism. People expressed a demand for Kiev to immediately stop the military operation against the residents of Donbass.

Comrades miners! The demand for Kiev must be put forward on the front line! The demand expressed in such an effective way reaches much faster, and to the Nazis, your meetings are like a dead poultice. Say it is good to give advice while sitting at the computer! Well, your house is on fire! And other people's houses, I personally have already "extinguished"! 10 people are fighting, 1000 are rallying and picking their noses - okay !!! Then those who fought will be shot, they will be put on the court bench in the Hague, and the rest complain - oh, how badly we are treated, damn it - Woe to the conquered !!! God forbid the Nazis will crush the "light" ones and they will drive you into the mines and no one dares to utter a word at all for the grub you will work !!! Will you moan - Russia threw us, these did not help us, we had wives and children, we could not. The loser pays all bills !!!

And to the Fighters of the South - East, a low Bow!

[Bogranz]

Here is what Strelkov himself said in this regard (on the site under the nickname "Kotych"): ".... Sent Today, 01:33:52
By the way, according to some sources, Ukrainian media are going to dazzle and expose a couple of my false appeals and "negotiations". Be careful - if something "mind blowing" appears in the media - take your time to believe. "http://forum-antikvariat.ru

[kyznets]

Miners rally ... Healthy strong men with placards ... This is their land, this is their families, their future. They hold meetings, send a "message" in a purely Western European way (which they will only see in Russia and in their southeastern suburbs). And on the outskirts of Slavyansk at the same time, other ordinary men are fighting with small arms against artillery and regular troops. And why don't they write on posters that Russian men come and fight FOR THEM, Russians, Chechens, Tatars? This makes no sense!!! It means that it has not yet been impressed, it means that they can live in SUCH conditions and in such conditions. The state when the body is ready to vote for independence, but is not yet ready to fight for it or sacrifice. You can treat this with understanding, but excuse me, without respect.

[Alex2014]

I agree one hundred percent. In the news, a man sitting on a sofa indignantly told how they were being bombed and how good it was that his child was not at home at that time. Who would protect.

[surovts.valery]

Quote: MG42

Vladimir Putin will make the final decision on congratulating Petro Poroshenko on his election, when Ukraine will have the final official results of voting in the presidential election. This was stated by Assistant to the President of Russia Yuri Ushakov. He recalled that Putin "had already said in advance that we respect the results of the elections."

Federation Council speaker Valentina Matvienko told RIA Novosti that Russia will decide on its participation in the inauguration of Poroshenko after receiving invitations. “We will look at what proposals will be sent to the state for inauguration, after which we will determine our position,” she said. According to the speaker, the presidential elections in Ukraine were not without problems, but Moscow is still ready for a dialogue with Kiev, and this dialogue is necessary. “We respect the choice of the Ukrainian people, the people expressed it, and we are ready for dialogue with the new authorities that will be formed,” the senator noted.

Something I did not hear and did not see, especially from Matvienko, where did the disa come from? Careful with information. The link is left.

[MG42]

Quote: surovts.valery

Something I did not hear and did not see, especially from Matvienko, where did the disa come from? Careful with information. The link is left.

How many links do you need ?? I do not spread Ukrainian.

http://www.ng.ru/news/467824.html

http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/27077161/pomoschnik-putina-skazal-kogda-po

zdravyat-poroshenko # ixzz330q6O644

http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1807512.html

[domiemon]

The Russian media must understand that they are already at war. While informational. Therefore, any reports about the "true" state of affairs in the DNR and LNR should be checked against the original source and if it is massively replicated in the "Ukrainian" media and blogs, then unambiguously filtered out. No wonder during the war everyone was forced to hand over their radios and were given "shells". This was done precisely to suppress rumors and panic.

[kit-kat]

Actually, the USSR paid for land lease in gold, and the amounts were not small. What does Poroshenko plan to pay? Sweets?

[Drewlik]

though I don't like Kadyrov, but the phrase "... why go to Donetsk when there is a good road to Kiev? ..." I really like

[selivan1]

Farewell to Donbass, Putin handed you over ...

[tolancop]

Quote: Muadipus

By the example of Ukraine, you begin to understand that the policy of retaliation of Tsakhal is the most faithful and no one can even utter a word when it operates. I would not want to send troops to Ukraine, but Russia could help with the supply of weapons and the organization of a no-fly zone.

I remember the mid-90s, when all liberals (both domestic and imported) started shouting about "human rights", when Russia extinguished terrorists in the Caucasus.
And at this time, in one of the programs on TV, a short program with the participation of Sharansky (former citizen of the USSR, later the Minister of the Government of Israel) comes out. The meaning of his speech is as follows: "Israel supports and understands Russia's actions, since it itself is constantly at war with terrorists. The main task of the state is to ensure the human right to LIFE, and all other rights later. And Europe has lived too long and well in security and it does not reach her yet ... ".

And I didn’t think that I would live to see the time when I will start to relate well to Kadyrov R.A. As an adversary, he always respected with respect, but in order to relate well? ... Oddly enough, he survived ... And he changed his attitude ... Ukrainians tried.

[Palladium900]

If the Ukrainian authorities really want to see “Chechen units” in Donetsk, why go to Donetsk when there is a good road to Kiev?

It’s impossible not to agree ..

[narn]

Judging by the fact that this is reported by Ukrainian media about the proposed negotiations, all this is a lie and fiction !!! it's time to get used to it and not pay attention !!! INTERESTINGLY OTHER ... PAY ATTENTION THAT THIS IS ALL FALSE INFORMATION QUOTE QUOTE AND ISSUED OFFICIALLY OUR RUSSIAN LEADING MEDIA AND TV !!!!! WHAT FOR AND WHY OUR MEDIA DOES IT DO NOT UNDERSTAND ...

[Kir41]

Finally, Donetsk miners stood up !!!

[narn]

Yeah, they got up ... healthy men with placards walking and demanding that instead of arms they would defend their right and the right of their loved ones to life, freedom in their land, their own language, their culture .... and of course, well done. sort of like they participated in the liberation movement, a tick can be put .....

[Shakhtinec]

Kadyrov pleased how he trolls them. damn, how do these Ukrainians population boob an emergency war with the Russian Federation, you just wonder! they shoot at civilians - Russia is not attacking, they began to hammer artillery at the DPR and LNR housing estates - Russia is waiting again, aviation is already bombing in Donetsk - something else is wrong ... apparently, it’s worth waiting for massive terrorist attacks from the Ukrainian side. they would rather have defaulted so that Maidan 3.0 would be dill, so that only stones and dust would then. otherwise how can they (Svidomo) brains set? perhaps they will refuse from the ATO, it will not be up to it.

[Belarus]

Here is a link for you, read and understand a lot:


http://politobzor.net/show-23880-est-nadezhda-chto-putin-vedet-tonkuyu-igru-ved-
sdacha-yugo-vostoka-budet-oznachat-prolog-ego-sobstvennogo-padeniya.html

[Belarus]

....... If the Ukrainian authorities really want to see "Chechen units" in Donetsk, why go to Donetsk when there is a good road to Kiev?

In other words: why go to you when we are already there!

[Vrvarius]

Chechens do not imagine it, it is a systematic hammering into the heads of the people of Ukraine, in order to later say that in Donetsk they are not killing local residents, but aggressors from Russia and Chechnya. at the same time, for some reason, none of the Ukrainians thinks that mercenaries and others like them would not shoot back because of tires, but would conduct larger-scale battles, maybe even offensive ones.

[doc62]

where they saw naive that after blood someone laid down their arms. wretchedness in brains and deeds

[sv68]

Kiev’s next lie is just an information war; acquire new features — not just lie and slander, but it’s plausible to lie so that such a lie would split the ranks of resistance

[Leshka]

nothing will come of it

[Signaller]

Of course, I understand everything, but ........ I look at photos and videos. Good going. It's a pity people walk this time. They need to sit at home. And two is a perfect position with RPGs to hammer and that’s all ....... But somehow, it’s not clear. Like all the militia went to take the airport, and the troops go around the city ?????

[repytw]

This was the next photo after giving the sword to the ambassador.

[Weniamin]

Well done Kadyrov. He masterfully added fuel to the fire so that the Kiev junta could not sleep well.