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MiG-21 fighter crashed in northern India

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According to the ITAR-TASS, with reference to the IBN television channel, the fighter MiG-21 of the Indian Air Force crashed today near the city of Anantnag in the north of India.


The pilot of the plane was killed. About the causes of the disaster is not yet known.

It is worth noting that the Indian Air Force plans to completely replace the MiG-21 fighters to the 2018-2019 years. However, some Indian media reported that this process could last until the 2025 year.
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  1. Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov 27 May 2014 12: 14
    +7
    It’s a pity, but on the other hand it would be high time to replace them with new cars.
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 27 May 2014 12: 32
      +7
      Quote: Anton Gavrilov
      It’s a pity, but on the other hand it would be high time to replace them with new cars.


      It’s just that there some people completely forgot how to fly. Pokryshkin as he said? It is necessary to fly on everything that flies well and on the fact that flying in principle should not be difficult. Here people either do not want to work or are completely unable to fly ... it is not surprising that they are fighting the 21st ...
      1. Orc-xnumx
        Orc-xnumx 27 May 2014 12: 54
        +6
        The technical condition of the crashed plane is still unknown ...
      2. Kasym
        Kasym 27 May 2014 17: 02
        +3
        Geisenberg The flight hours of the Indian Air Force are one of the largest in the world, up to 200 hours. Not for nothing did they endure amers in training battles. So not at the address.
        1. yushch
          yushch 27 May 2014 21: 43
          +1
          I read the statements of the Indian great general from the Air Force on this subject. So, he criticized the MIGs of his MO, he pointed out some features of these aircraft in flight and criticized the Air Force officers for not taking these moments seriously. And he also called MIG 21 flying AK 47. I think the opinion of the pros in this matter says a lot.
    2. SS68SS
      SS68SS 27 May 2014 12: 32
      +5
      No matter how sorry I was for the pilot, but maybe this crash will push India to purchase new MiG or Su ....
      1. avg
        avg 27 May 2014 14: 40
        +2
        Our team at all levels explained to them that using licensed spare parts is ultimately more profitable than hauling counterfeit goods from all over the world. But, see does not reach.
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    5. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 27 May 2014 12: 43
      +9
      Quote: Anton Gavrilov
      It’s a pity, but on the other hand it would be high time to replace them with new cars.

      The old ones are already of course .. (sorry for the pilot ..) The biggest and most expensive loss is a fighter pilot ..! (generally silent about the family)
      1. MOISEY
        MOISEY 27 May 2014 12: 55
        +3
        Here is the answer - why do we need modernization. And then, this is how Ukraine has military equipment, both flying and ground (I am silent about the Navy) only on paper, but in reality, 10-20% of the technical staff are in service.
    6. Basarev
      Basarev 27 May 2014 13: 58
      +2
      It’s regrettable to realize, but in the twenty-first century the MiG-21 became a little older ... Although on the other hand, if you really upgrade it, you can get a very magnificent car, even for our times.
    7. alone
      alone 27 May 2014 20: 21
      0
      MiG-21 fighter crashed in northern India


      forgot the next word.
  2. Dreamer
    Dreamer 27 May 2014 12: 19
    +5
    It's a shame, rarity bl.!
    1. Cherdak
      Cherdak 27 May 2014 12: 29
      +11
      Quote: Dreamer
      rarity bl.!

      it is more correct to say "active exhibit"
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 27 May 2014 12: 44
        +7
        Anyway, a little sorry.

        In childhood, they looked at him and went crazy with pride and delight
      2. adept666
        adept666 27 May 2014 14: 00
        0
        If this modern exhibit is equipped with modern avionics, it can give a lot of new things especially in close maneuverable combat laughing
      3. soaring
        soaring 27 May 2014 17: 56
        +1
        And I like the MiG-21 !!! Such a handsome man !!! New avionics and other complexes and this "exhibit" will still give thrush to many modern units! Yes, everything, as before, depends on the pilot, he is the first person, and everything else in addition to his skill!
        Sorry for the pilot. Peace be upon him.
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 27 May 2014 18: 45
          0
          Quote: soaring
          New avionics and other complexes and this "exhibit" will still give thrush to many modern units!


          I do not argue, the MiG-21 is an excellent fighter in its time, but now you are very mistaken stop Well, first of all, among the 4th-generation fighters of the 70-80s, he doesn’t have a single strength. Even in comparison with the same F-16s, the MiG-29, the Mirage-2000 - the 21st does not have: an integrated circuit glider (to maneuverability), medium-range missiles and missiles with infrared seeker, long-range radar (at least 50 km), etc., etc. All these shortcomings indicate that, in theory, the MiG-21 link will be destroyed when it encounters a similar link of fighters 4 -th generation. And it's just 4, but I’m completely silent about 4+ and 4 ++. The MiG-21 is hopelessly outdated, like other fighters of the 2nd and 3rd generation No. .
          1. soaring
            soaring 27 May 2014 20: 14
            +3
            Good evening, Aslan!
            I agree with you in many ways, but ... In my modern air-to-air rocket, it doesn’t matter which glider to launch from and which generation 4+ or 4 ++ wink The complex found a target, identified and the pilot pressed the coveted button ... Of course, about the maneuverable battle, I am silent, here 21 are really outdated ... BUT and the cannon fight, as in Korea, is it an anachronism right?
            And I do not urge you to make an idol out of MIGA-21! stop Just if there is a possibility to replace outdated equipment with modern equipment and put up-to-date weapons, why shouldn’t he still fly in battle !?
            Well, I'll tell you a secret - I sat in it in '82 and looked at the flights of these planes, "my uncle was a military pilot" and it blew my roof, I also wanted to become a pilot and it was a military ... yes
            But he studied as a helicopter pilot ... good wink
            Yours! hi
            1. supertiger21
              supertiger21 27 May 2014 22: 58
              0
              Quote: soaring
              Good evening, Aslan!


              And good to you, Andrew! hi

              Quote: soaring
              In my modern air-to-air rocket, it doesn’t matter which glider to launch from and which generation 4+ or 4 ++. The complex found a target, determined and the pilot pressed the coveted button ...


              I agree, but there are a number of nuances. Because in order to destroy the target, you must first discover it and take a favorable position. The large long-range radar and the required number of other avionics in the small MiG-21 glider cannot be accommodated, which is what the completed one shows (in my opinion ) modernization resource. Well, in general, I think that from the MiG-21 you can make a more or less worthy opponent, but he will no longer pull on equal footing with modern fighters.

              Quote: soaring
              And I do not urge you to make an idol out of MIGA-21! Just if there is a possibility to replace outdated equipment with modern equipment and put up-to-date weapons, why shouldn’t he still fly in battle !?


              A good idea, but it is more relevant for less developed third countries that do not have money for more modern MiGs. But India may well buy solid weapons, and therefore I do not consider it necessary to continue the 21st MiGs in the Indian Air Force.

              Quote: soaring
              Well, I'll tell you a secret, I sat in it in '82 and looked at the flights of these planes, "my uncle was a military pilot" and it blew my roof, I also wanted to become a pilot and a military one ... But I studied to be a helicopter pilot ...


              On the good side, I envy military pilots good ! But alas, I myself have no relation to this profession and just enjoy reading literature at the expense of it, because it is very interesting. And I wish you success in this matter smile .

              Regards, Aslan! hi
          2. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 28 May 2014 00: 15
            +1
            Quote: supertiger21
            The 21st does not have: an integrated circuit for a glider (for maneuverability), medium-range missiles and missiles with an infrared seeker, long-range radar (at least 50 km), and so on and so on.

            I didn’t have it in the original, but it was already modernized how many times, and all who could. request There is already everything on it, and PFAR and long-range missiles, do not you think that the Indians fly on the original configuration of the 60s? request


      4. alleksSalut4507
        alleksSalut4507 27 May 2014 21: 56
        0
        quite a good rocket. with the declared characteristics, it seems, maybe more. Strengthened. Reliable.
  3. EvgenSuslov
    EvgenSuslov 27 May 2014 12: 22
    +7
    Even the most advanced technique is just a technique. For any conclusions there is little data. They will find black boxes, find out something like that. If of course we shine in secret ...
  4. CadetXXX
    CadetXXX 27 May 2014 12: 24
    +11
    Cars at one time were excellent, but time is running out, it is time to change them. There was the Su30 MKI, for them it was made on purpose, a great car - that!
    It is time instant 21 to deserved peace send and replace with modern ones!
    1. armageddon
      armageddon 27 May 2014 12: 35
      +2
      They will take ... technology is technology !!! But man is not GOD !!!
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  5. defend
    defend 27 May 2014 12: 29
    +7
    Or on the MiG-29UPG, also a great car!
  6. Zymran
    Zymran 27 May 2014 12: 35
    +2
    Interestingly, is it really so difficult to replace this antiques with new cars?
  7. karal
    karal 27 May 2014 12: 35
    +2
    why not catapulted? Sorry for the pilot.
    1. zennon
      zennon 27 May 2014 19: 48
      0
      Quote: karal
      why not catapulted? Sorry for the pilot.

      I don’t understand anything yet:
      New Delhi, May 27 / Xinhua / - On Tuesday, the Indian Air Force fighter Mig-21 crashed during its regular mission in the Indian-controlled part of Kashmir. The fate of his pilot is not yet known. This was reported by representatives of the Indian army.

      However, according to a local Times Now television station, two pilots aboard the fighter were seriously injured.

      The accident occurred during a training flight in the area of ​​the Jodhpur air base (Jodhpur), according to Press Trust of India. According to police, the pilot safely ejected. There is no destruction on earth.

      The MiG-21 Indian Air Force fighter crashed on Tuesday near the city of Anantnag in the northern state of Jammu and Kashmir. This was reported by IBN.

      The pilot of the plane died. The causes of the crash have not yet been established.

      ALL of these komenty from May 27, 2014! As you want and understand ...
  8. mig31
    mig31 27 May 2014 12: 35
    +11
    It’s a pity the pilot, what modification is unspecified (more than 20 mod.), I also flew a little at the end of the seventies ...
  9. Afinogen
    Afinogen 27 May 2014 12: 37
    +2
    It is necessary to the museum, and they fly.
  10. Morgan
    Morgan 27 May 2014 12: 39
    +4
    By the way, camarades, the MiG-21 with a modern avionics will not yield to the Fe-sixteenth (the combat load is beyond the brackets). A serious drawback is the car - a narrow nose cone, a large radar antenna does not fit there. So it’s not necessary to write off it urgently, you can still do it (as a training one - that’s it!)
    1. supertiger21
      supertiger21 27 May 2014 18: 56
      0
      Quote: Morgan
      By the way, camarades, the MiG-21 with a modern avionics will not yield to the Fe-sixteenth (the combat load is beyond the brackets). A serious drawback is the car - a narrow nose cone, a large radar antenna does not fit there. So it’s not necessary to write off it urgently, you can still do it (as a training one - that’s it!)


      Misconception negative )
      Firstly, these are fighters of the 2nd and 4th generations, and this already testifies to the "non-compliance of the MiG-21 to the F-16." No: medium-range missiles and missiles with IR seeker, weak and not long-range radar, no integral glider (death in a maneuverable BB), a tiny combat radius, accommodates only 4 missiles (modification of the MiG-21bis), less thrust, less overload. Some disadvantages over the F-16 and not one plus. The MiG-21, along with the F-4 and Mirage-3, one of the best fighters of the 3rd quarter of the 20th century, but its time has long come to an end, so these aircraft are being replaced by others all over the world.
      1. Diesel
        Diesel 27 May 2014 22: 40
        +1
        Quote: supertiger21
        Misconception)

        All Indian moments after upgrading fly with a "spear". In fact, this will turn out to be Mig 21 sample 93


        Parameters of the antenna spear-21
        towards free space - 57 km
        in free space in catch-up - 30 km
        against the background of the earth towards - 57 km
        against the backdrop of the earth in catch-up - 20 km
        2. Detection range by target speed with Sep = 5 sq.m. - 68 km
        3. Target designation of guided missiles RVV-AE, R-27R, R-27E, R-27T, R-27AE, R-73 and R60MK.
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 27 May 2014 23: 03
          0
          Quote: Diesel
          The parameters of the Lance of the Spear-21 radar in the free space towards - 57 km in free space in the catch-up - 30 km against the background of the earth toward - 57 km against the ground in the catch-up - 20 km2 Detection range by target speed with Sep = 5 sq.m. - 68 km3. Target designation of guided missiles RVV-AE, R-27R, R-27E, R-27T, R-27AE, R-73 and R60MK.


          Impressive features good ! Such modernization greatly increases the survivability of the MiG-21, but to the F-16 level it is still very far away even in this situation.
  11. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 27 May 2014 12: 40
    +3
    I hope, the car is not to blame.
    Sorry for the pilot, let the earth rest in peace, and the car - MiG-21, the same is a pity.
  12. rasputin17
    rasputin17 27 May 2014 12: 41
    +3
    Sorry for the pilot! (Condolences to the family and friends.
    This is the result of the Indian organization of flights and service! Many times, their generals have been warned by Russian service departments about the critical situation of service and revot! As always, Indian generals cried for poor funding and lack of funds. and just doing hankering for discounts putting off modernization in the background! The result of such an illiterate guide is not long in coming!
  13. Tolerast
    Tolerast 27 May 2014 12: 42
    +9
    Oh, how often they beat the 21st. At this pace, they will soon be left completely without light fighters. And with the Rafalkin contract, I strained. In vain, the kshatriyas refused to purchase MiG-35. Everyone would benefit. Maybe they will change their minds?
    1. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 27 May 2014 22: 02
      0
      they are wise, they will think.
  14. reader1964
    reader1964 27 May 2014 13: 08
    +3
    A machine with a triangular wing is quite difficult to pilot, high landing speed, one engine. Our catapults have always been reliable. It is a pity that I could not use it.
  15. Eydolon
    Eydolon 27 May 2014 13: 08
    +1
    ancient plane
  16. Giant thought
    Giant thought 27 May 2014 13: 10
    +1
    Old planes are slowly failing, an objective process, given the year of manufacture. We must again make proposals to the Indians on our light fighters.
    1. Tolerast
      Tolerast 27 May 2014 13: 15
      +3
      It is necessary, absolutely. KB do not sleep !!! The Hindus seem to have flown with the French. So this is our chance number two.
  17. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 27 May 2014 13: 13
    +7
    Here, either it is better to look at the technique, or the accidental tragic mistake of the pilot. Very sorry for the pilot. But the MIG-21 is a great airplane.
  18. pensioner
    pensioner 27 May 2014 13: 21
    +2
    It's a pity, of course ... Heaven regularly collects its tribute. It is not for nothing that there is even such a saying in aviation: "The path of aviation is strewn with the lives of pilots ...". A dangerous profession ... but also a very worthy one.
  19. Khalmamed
    Khalmamed 27 May 2014 13: 23
    +4
    ..... weapons are a means .., a warrior is fighting ..., an AK-47 Kalashnikov assault rifle (you can’t see the rifling already) in the hands of African pirates are also weapons ...
    ..... MIG is a legend! Hindus should be given credit for so many years flying on RARITIES.,
    ..... Jews captured the T-55 tanks converted into armored personnel carriers and do not burn, and the merkava burns.
    ..... most likely they missed either HYPER self-confidence, everything has its time and place ...
  20. Blad_21617
    Blad_21617 27 May 2014 13: 23
    +2
    and what did they want, how old was the "veteran"?
  21. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 27 May 2014 13: 31
    +2
    Quote: Khalmamed
    ..... MIG is a legend! Hindus should be given credit for so many years flying on RARITIES.,

    Still would ! These devices went into operation almost 50 years ago and are still flying in India!
    Quote: reader1964
    A machine with a triangular wing is quite difficult to pilot, high landing speed, one engine.

    I also read that the plane is strict for piloting, well, this is not an iron, but a combat fighter!
    Handsome device! It looks in my opinion better than FY-16!
    1. supertiger21
      supertiger21 27 May 2014 18: 58
      0
      Quote: Starover_Z
      It looks in my opinion better than FY-16


      It looks (!), But in terms of combat qualities it will never be compared.
  22. leytenant
    leytenant 27 May 2014 13: 41
    +1
    Well, this is gagging, ordering the pilot to fly into the sky on such an ancient plane. Okay, in wartime, everything will work out for victory, but on a daily basis .... I doubt very much that the Indians have excellent repair and technical services to maintain the combat readiness of such old models of twinks. In the future, such accidents will become more frequent if they do not start updating the fleet.
  23. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 27 May 2014 13: 59
    +2
    Sorry for the old man! At one time there was a wonderful airplane! It was time for him to retire! The pilot has eternal peace or successful reincarnation. How are they ...
  24. max422
    max422 27 May 2014 14: 02
    +2
    such models in the museum must be collected ...
    their use in the air force carries the danger not only to the enemy, but to its own troops - proved by the army of the Great Dill
  25. Basarev
    Basarev 27 May 2014 14: 04
    +2
    For such a period, even ships become obsolete. True, the battleship Iowa until the nineties was completely used by American warriors, but this is simply due to the lack of new battleships.
  26. capex1
    capex1 27 May 2014 14: 12
    +4
    In general, I wonder how these "grandfathers" still fly ?? !! And the Indians know that "worn trousers" need to be changed ?! HOW DO YOU HERE SUCH "SHTANISHKI" ???
    1. Tolerast
      Tolerast 27 May 2014 14: 43
      +2
      How I love this photo! Ready for hours to admire (if only not to work. Hehe).
      1. 0255
        0255 27 May 2014 18: 32
        0
        Let the money in the PAK FA in the FGFA option, but do not forget that it needs to be serviced
  27. Gagarin
    Gagarin 27 May 2014 14: 14
    +1
    Quote: Anton Gavrilov
    Nothing is known about the causes of the disaster.


    ... and it’s not possible to guess, and there are no options ... OLD AIRPLANE, VETERAN, TIME AT THE MUSEUM!
  28. Gagarin
    Gagarin 27 May 2014 14: 17
    +1
    They even once won against aliens with such a ship, what can I say - a nation of great "winners".
    Quote: Basarev
    ... battleship Iowa until the nineties was completely used by American warriors
    1. 0255
      0255 27 May 2014 18: 33
      0
      And in that movie, the whole action for the beautiful special effects remained in the trailer ...
  29. KOMA
    KOMA 27 May 2014 15: 39
    +1
    I wonder what about the Indians called the caste of pilots?
    1. Morgan
      Morgan 27 May 2014 17: 23
      +1
      Luftkshatrii. Isn't that obvious? bully drinks bully
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 27 May 2014 18: 44
        +1
        Quote: Morgan
        Luftkshatrii.

        laughing hi