Ukrainian military lost two helicopters in the vicinity of Donetsk airport

According to the ITAR-TASS, with reference to the chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the DPR, Denis Pushilin, during fighting in the international airport of Donetsk the militia shot down two helicopters of the Ukrainian armed forces.

“Earlier, the republic’s leadership decided to take control of the airport,” he stressed. “This was done after Kiev, with the beginning of the punitive operation in the south-east of Ukraine, began increasingly to use the air harbor to deliver military cargo to the region, as well as manpower for military units and armed formations under its control.”

According to RIA "News, The Ukrainian military used the Mi-24 and Mi-8 helicopters, which launched several missiles. There are reports of powerful explosions near the airport.

In addition, the news agency "Vesti" notes that Kiev again set up the UN. In the battles for the airport of Donetsk used Mi-24 helicopter with the logo of the organization.

Under international law, only UN peacekeeping forces can use similar equipment.

Comments

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Kiev again framed the UN. In the battles for the airport of Donetsk, a Mi-24 helicopter with the symbols of the organization was used.

Such immediately bring down nafig ..! They seem to hold pretty well ..

[MOISEY]

So in the Ukrainian Air Force in general there will be no equipment left. Well, what, and they feel good - no equipment, no costs, saved - it means earned. And in order not to torment themselves and those around them at once, let them give the militias back, they will still bring down.

[AVV]

More helicopters need to be shot down, then the Ukrainian military will jam !!! Mosin rifles with optics are best suited for this !!! They hit long distances and pierce the helicopter right through !!!

[northern]

The Mi-24 is well-armored from below; you can’t break it from the PTRS either. Mi-8 yes, you can.

[dkflbvbh]

The cart rushed to paradise ... Now there will be a competition in verbiage - who is better to make fun of.
Did anyone understand the meaning of the article? ... the airport and the station should have been taken two months ago, and not only in Donetsk, but throughout the region. Then Bandera and the troops may have been less, because half of the vehicles on the roads wouldn’t get broken, and such a group of vehicles wouldn’t stand near Slavyansk. The same situation in the Voroshilovgrad region. At first, the horseradish leaders missed the coon (they took all the palaces), and now the people are laying down how much in vain.
This once again confirms that the so-called revolution is led by stupid, little-thinking people (they can only trade in the box in the box) who have no goals or material resources to carry out any serious tasks. All were waiting for his uncle, but he did not come ... Goats ...

[Letun]

Quote: AVV

More helicopters need to be shot down, then the Ukrainian military will jam !!! Mosin rifles with optics are best suited for this !!! They hit long distances and pierce the helicopter right through !!!

You can still use boomerangs, they have an unpredictable flight path, no missile defense will help!

[Evgeny_Lev]

You can also take a two-liter bottle of Pepsi or Coca Calla, throw mentos into it and close the lid

[Salamander]

The Ukrainian military wing before the operation was about 20 vehicles. Losses - 10 vehicles. Not bad!

[from punk]

Quote: MIKHAN

Kiev again framed the UN. In the battles for the airport of Donetsk, a Mi-24 helicopter with the symbols of the organization was used.

so the UN has already said that helicopter shots could be shot in the Congo !!! an interesting landscape in the Congo-birch, huts, arable land and nightingales. so if they knock it down they will say that the separatists repainted in order to discredit the Kiev junta

[EvgenSuslov]

What are you surprised at? This is a settlement of ancient ukrov in africa. They migrated 3000 years ago behind herds of wild pigs.)))

[Evgeny_Lev]

and with helicopters. After all, everyone knows that ancient Ukrainians came up with helicopters.

[Revolver]

Under international law, only UN peacekeeping forces can use similar equipment.

And they put these on international law, especially since they have a cover in the person of Obama and the company. They know, critters, that they will not be brought to justice, and if they are, they will be smeared out as Kosovo Albanians, and they are unlimited. [begin sarcasm] Although not, maybe they won’t, they’re not Islamists, not Albanians or Arabs there, but all Slavs. [end sarcasm] Let's see.

[Zomanus]

Worse. They say that they shot down a helicopter of the peace-loving UN.

[aleks 62]

.... And they even piss in their eyes-they say that God's dew ...

[diver1977]

It is necessary to bring down everything in a row (except for the red cross), and this must be documented and collected in a dossier on criminals. At the trial will be needed.

[Predator]

So they will paint all the aviation under the red cross, and then they will scream that terrorists will destroy ambulances and helicopters, and Ssaki will confirm!

[askort154]

Predator ..... So they will paint the whole aviation under the red cross, and then they will scream that terrorists will kill ambulances and helicopters, and Ssaki will confirm!

That's for sure! They took foreign special instructors out of Donetsk airport in minibuses with the symbols - "doctors without borders".

[EvgenSuslov]

Well, everyone is undermining, too, not true, there may be journalists, for example. On the other hand, while I shoot there (and, as we know, dill also like to shoot in their own way), it’s better not to show up on civil engineering there.

[Ustas]

Quote: diver1977

It’s necessary to shoot everything down (except for the red cross)

It seemed like there was a message that cars under the sign of the International Red Cross were redeploying sniper mercenaries in the vicinity of Donetsk airport.

[aleks 62]

..... Not the red cross, but "Doctors Without Borders" .... These are the "doctors" ....

[from punk]

Quote: aleks 62

... Not a red cross, but Doctors Without Borders .... These are also those "doctors"

there-snipers. from there-wounded to organs

[aleks 62]

.... At what court ???? .... And who are the judges ????

[abrakadabre]

It is necessary to bring down everything in a row (except for the red cross), and this must be documented and collected in a dossier on criminals. At the trial will be needed.

You just need to shoot down ALL CONTRACTS. With any crosses, stars and other symbols. Because the DNI has no aviation at all. There are no extraneous air forces in the area either. Only the Great Ukrainian and few US drones. So it is impossible to make a mistake.
If you skip the red crosses, they instantly repaint all sides in this symbolism.

[xenod55]

It is necessary to shoot down EVERYONE who "has" the conscience to fly over peaceful cities with ammunition ready for use. There is no exception. Drive all flying freaks 2 meters into the ground. And all I.O. "Ukrainian power" to the same place.

[VSC]

only who will do it and with what. To blow up a pipe with cataclysms - there will be an effect!

[Alexander Romanov]

In addition, the news agency "Vesti" notes that Kiev again set up the UN. In the battles for the airport of Donetsk used Mi-24 helicopter with the logo of the organization.
Any symbolism can be used with the U.S. roof and corrupt Pangisrun. But if Russia had used such turntables, then yes ... a math-remat from Psaki and another terrible woman who sits from the United States to the United Nations would stand for the whole world. law exists, only for Russia.

[ispaniard]

Unfortunately, the symbol of the red cross doesn’t mean anything at all now ... There, during the assault on the Donetsk airport, the junta mercenaries were taken out of the airport in cars with DOGS WITHOUT BORDERS symbols ... They were very afraid that some of them would be taken prisoner

[EvgenSuslov]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

International law exists, only for Russia

I’ll correct you a little. International Provo exists only against Russia.

[aleks 62]

..... And it saddens .... Sadly, Russia silently swallows ..

[dmitriygorshkov]

Quote: MIKHAN

Such immediately shoot down

Yesterday I read that it’s like a fighter was shot down, I was still surprised, what? Desa?

[1812 1945]

Quote: MIKHAN

Kiev again framed the UN. In the battles for the airport of Donetsk, a Mi-24 helicopter with the symbols of the organization was used.

Such immediately bring down nafig ..! They seem to hold pretty well ..

Everything that the junta does is done with the filing of the USA. The fact that there are no UN sanctions for using UN symbols in the punitive operation of illegitimate power against its people is a demonstration of the power and impunity of the United States to everyone and everything! Like - no one to complain to you, we - pin ... dos rule the world ...

[tormazok]

Kiev again framed the UN. In the battles for the airport of Donetsk, a Mi-24 helicopter with the symbols of the organization was used.

Video proof is necessary. Let Oshniki see how dill use them.

[AleksPol]

The United States has long ago beaten the UN. Ukrainians are "worthy" students.

[sssla]

Quote: AleksPol

The United States has long ago beaten the UN. Ukrainians are "worthy" students

Who exactly is a worthy student?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: sssla

Who exactly is a worthy student?

But sho, you need to further explain?

[sssla]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

But sho, you need to further explain?

From you "respected" know-it-all, but a lot of incompetent to me and nothing for nothing! )))

[ivan.kormoran]

What an inappropriate question! Zapadnaya Nezalezhnosti, as soon as the meager fat ran out, switched to liver and rations with LSD !! So these representatives of Western Independence imagined themselves soldiers of fortune. only LSD in the livers and the seagull is now over, and now the outbreaks of animal eclipse appear. And now the statistics - how many of those pseudo-soldiers from Western Nezalezhnosti - no more than 20 thousand, and this number will decrease not only due to simple mowing in hostilities, but also another factor !!! Western Independence, however, began to rebel against the idiots of Kiev power. They demand to return "in the ass" of children and husbands who, through stupidity and not of their own free will, got into the army and they are simply shot by pseudo-soldiers of good luck. And the United States never prepares worthy students for itself - they only collect "cannon fodder" - abandon them and then reap the fruits of the bloody feud.
Yes, and your motto is sssia good! but you never received a message from a neighbor for violating his rules in terms of faces - this is the most vital lesson obviously has not happened to you, perhaps in the soonest present you will reap this lesson.
Sincerely.

[AleksPol]

Specifically, those who are hiding under UN symbolism shoot their citizens. Shakalya tactics.

[sssla]

Quote: AleksPol

Specifically, those who are hiding under UN symbolism shoot their citizens

Decent answer +

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: tormazok

Video proof is necessary. Let Oshniki see how dill use them.

Well showed last week so what?

[AleksPol]

Expressed concern

[siberko]

all ukrletchiki must know! That any of their departure could be the last!

[abrakadabre]

all ukrletchiki must know! That any of their departure could be the last!

Eh ... And it would be better if they knew that EVERY flight will be the last. But alas, for this it is necessary to have such things in quantities there ... like Thor, Shell, etc.
Ehh ...

[mackonya]

And again they will assure us that everything happened in the Republic of the Congo, and maybe everything in Ukraine is calm and all military operations take place in the African Republic, although there is one truth to this, soon Ukraine will be on par with the African countries in terms of GDP.

[Round cat]

The Air Force has already placed Ukraine on the globe in place of Pakistan. Why not go to Africa this time?

[hhhhhhh]

Quote: MIKHAN

Kiev again framed the UN. In the battles for the airport of Donetsk, a Mi-24 helicopter with the symbols of the organization was used.

Such immediately bring down nafig ..! They seem to hold pretty well ..

And then they will say the pictures were taken in the Congo, and so a pile of scrap metal with UN symbols

[andj61]

Yes, everything needs to be knocked down there, which flies. It is urgent to provide assistance with mobile air defense systems.

[maxim1]

From the beginning of the ATO soon as a month. And the DNI is becoming stronger. And the gain progression is not so much arithmetic as geometric.
The newly "elected" prezik, if his upper rudiment even works, should think.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Here read (laugh) ...)))) Brainwashing ..! There are a lot of Strelkov and you won’t do anything with them ..

[tank64rus]

Thanks to Patriarch Kirill. Dmitry Donskoy prepared the same Patriarch.

[from punk]

Quote: MIKHAN

Here read (laugh) ...)))) Brainwashing ..! There are a lot of Strelkov and you won’t do anything with them ..

Well, damn it, not the patriarch, but just HATAB no less. I don’t want to laugh, but stupid cry. It was the not recognized Kiev church and its godfather who urged us to push the east and went to the forefront of neo-Nazis

[Ural guys]

We have such many-hired Khatabs!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: MIKHAN

Brainwashing ..!

Where there is a brain, it is impossible to rinse with such bullshit, but for a dumb zombie it’s the most.

[gandalf]

I don’t really want to laugh here ... But you can think about what Bandera people will do with Orthodox churches and priests ... They believe propaganda ...

[Akvadra]

All masks have been dropped. A bloody grin is clearly visible behind the sugary chocolate mine. They will not spare anyone, neither children, nor old people, nor women. Serve their thirty Serebrennikov "conscientiously". Destroy!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Akvadra

All masks have been dropped. A bloody grin is clearly visible behind the sugary chocolate mine. They will not spare anyone, neither children, nor old people, nor women. Serve their thirty Serebrennikov "conscientiously". Destroy!

I agree.! Parashenko is given a clear installation from the State Department .. (the genocide of clean water has begun)

[wasjasibirjac]

it’s good that they occupied the airport and took control of it. the question is different: why 2 weeks dragged on with this? or prepared?

[sulagay]

Which helicopters did the Ukrainian Air Force lose ??
I looked everywhere - it’s not written anywhere.
The first one was like the Mi-8, but which second?

[Humpty]

MIKHAN (1)
With a safe return from the foggy day before yesterday!
Unfortunately, not enough reliable information on Donbas.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Humpty

MIKHAN (1)
With a safe return from the foggy day before yesterday!
Unfortunately, not enough reliable information on Donbas.

Thank..! I thought I would die so stupid and mediocre ..)))) It seems to have survived

[Nikolav]

So Turchinov with Yatsenyuk, it turns out, even before the inauguration they will steer? Here Poroshenko wants to complete the so-called. ATO until the 8th. so that all the sacrifices and costs are blamed on them. And he will be white and fluffy.

[Berkut-UA]

What about supplying the Donbass with currency.

Since it’s not good to supply them with open weapons,
then grandmas to support families and everything else ....

And there on the spot, people will find bribed military men
and they’ll buy everything they need, even tanks and helicopters.

Maybe Ramzan needs to be asked ....?

[mig31]

Helicopters -2 excellent, the planes would still, so that the force finally flies ...

[rasputin17]

Oh, to throw the guys another MANPADS for defense!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: rasputin17

Oh, to throw the guys another MANPADS for defense!

Yes, it seems there are ..! And to shoot from them to the right and to the left so far is not worth thinking ..

[VNP1958PVN]

Well, at least one good news in the morning!

[Kilo-11]

Yes, the UN does not care that their symbols are used in this punitive operation, since the UN, the OSCE, which they still have there, are six of the USA, all these organizations work to ensure the interests of the USA and NATO. So it's probably time to stop all these disturbances, protests, etc. Maybe it's time to somehow really begin to help New Russia, this is what I mean by our government.

[zao74]

E ... do we feel sorry for giving the guys MANPADS and specialists? Kick turntables, and in general, everything that flies is "wrong".

[o11g]

It’s not so simple the militia’s victims are huge and without support they probably won’t cope. Moreover, there was a discord between the DPR and the LPR. The elections passed all the restrictions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

03.27 Moscow time In Donetsk announced the mobilization of all medical staff.

02.04 Moscow time At least 24 people were killed in the shelling of a truck with wounded militias in Donetsk, an eyewitness said.

01.05 Moscow time In Mariupol, unknown assault the headquarters of the proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic.

00.55 Moscow time People’s Governor of Donbass reported the shelling of a truck with wounded in Donetsk. “According to preliminary data, 35 dead and 15 wounded,” wrote Pavel Gubarev on his Facebook page

[muhomor]

Yes, it cannot be that 50 people were transported in one kamaz. Yes, even the wounded (lying).

[Lord of the Sith]

They have already refuted information about 35 dead. There 4 killed others are injured.

[ed65b]

I don't understand the logic of the DPR authorities. Judging by what is happening, they have no power in the city as such. Kiev could safely receive and send military cargo through the airport to receive reinforcements in manpower, etc. that is, to operate with logistics in their own needs. According to the militia, there was also a National Guard and warehouses with fuel and lubricants and weapons that were successfully destroyed yesterday by valiant dill. Only such mediocrity as Nalivaika and Avakov could not destroy the leadership of the DPR and take control of the city in such a favorable situation. DPR authorities violated all the commandments of the revolution and Lenin and only miraculously survive. I see the prospects in a fog. Poroshenko, apparently, is not going to give up the ATO. Frostbite comes to Dill from all over the world, including the Russians (the scum of s.uki is finished) Putin's policy is reduced to "Where is the money for gas and we respect the choice of the people" and the southeast, which hates us fiercely. And voices calling to forget about the southeast in Russia are getting louder and this is alarming.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: ed65b

I don’t understand the logic of the DPR authorities. Judging by what is going on, they have no power in the city as such. Kiev could safely receive and send military cargo through the airport to receive reinforcements in manpower, etc.

There is no idea yet .. (Riflemen spoke about this just before ..) .. Now they have stepped up .. kind of hold on and attack slowly.

[ed65b]

Hello Vital I have a pissimistic mood. yesterday the person who impressed me from the point of view of a balanced analysis of the situation and relations in the Russian southeast changed his mind abruptly by 180 degrees. I didn't expect this. and to hell with him. It's just that now a "crisis" is coming, I think it is within a week that everything will be decided a little more. Army Novorosiya needs military success like air.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: ed65b

It's just that now a "crisis" is coming, I think it is within a week that everything will be decided a little more. Army Novorosiya needs military success like air.

Greetings to Edward ..! I also hope so! A general mobilization was announced there (this is also for Russia ..)

[muhomor]

Most likely, people in the Southeast relied on Russia (the Crimean scenario), but it turned out what happened.

[Ural guys]

The Crimean scenario is not yet possible. By the way, the President of Russia repeated this more than once. Why? Because, in fact, if Russia now enters Ukraine Donetsk and Lugansk will find themselves in the bosom of Russian sovereignty and the state border, which is now valiantly guarded by the Ukrainians, will be eliminated. Consequently, all these gangs ("Right Sector", "Donbass", "National Guard" and the like) will automatically rush to us. And already here we will have real hostilities.
Therefore, while Russia can help with uniforms and weapons (and the old model).

[figter]

It’s not clear somehow, if Lugansk Donetsk declared independence, then why haven’t the Ukrainian border posts on their territories been liquidated yet? But they cannot autonomously exist from the state, someone must feed them, pay them money, supply them with property. If they still exist and impede access from Russia, it means either they are the fifth column, or there is complete chaos, or they forgot to tell them that the power has changed. How do heterogeneous worlds coexist there?

[Ural guys]

The Crimean scenario is not yet possible. By the way, the President of Russia repeated this more than once. Why? Because, in fact, if Russia now enters Ukraine Donetsk and Lugansk will find themselves in the bosom of Russian sovereignty and the state border, which is now valiantly guarded by the Ukrainians, will be eliminated. Consequently, all these gangs ("Right Sector", "Donbass", "National Guard" and the like) will automatically rush to us. And already here we will have real hostilities.
Therefore, while Russia can help with uniforms and weapons (and the old model).

[ivan.kormoran]

However, you my friend is not even Trotskyist. Give you the blood of young Russian guys. And you, my friend, whose will you be - those of them who have tattered flags (bought for US loot) across Russia, do you bring mother trouble in the streets? no, our PRESIDENT is a reasonable person, enough mothers from Russia to send young people for you and your pseudo-ocean ideas to death. You yourself, dear, take a vacation, stomp to Lugans or Donetsk and fight as a private person, you have the right ideas, and implement it by action, not by hacking! Another alternative is to pour cold water on and just work if you live in Russia.

[tracker]

I completely agree, there is a suspicion that they want to shed the southeast on the sly in return for paying for gas, most likely behind the scenes this basic condition that the West puts can be exchanged for not entering NATO. Surely bargaining is already underway and this will be seen by the intensity of the military junta in the next 2 weeks

[Mikhail m]

Under whose control are the weapons depots in Novorossia? It would be necessary to manage them economically.

[Armored optimist]

Quote: punk

Quote: MIKHAN

Kiev again framed the UN. In the battles for the airport of Donetsk, a Mi-24 helicopter with the symbols of the organization was used.

so the UN has already said that helicopter shots could be shot in the Congo !!! an interesting landscape in the Congo-birch, huts, arable land and nightingales. so if they knock it down they will say that the separatists repainted in order to discredit the Kiev junta

So the militias can say that the S-300 missile did not arrive from the territory of Russia, but was chasing from the Congo.

[loroleg74]

It is necessary to introduce a "no-fly zone" over the entire territory of the southeast and control it. Double benefit - dill without air support and our air defense personnel can train well.

[ran nearby]

It seems like one plane itself crashed. They are all old, normal maintenance was not carried out. A little more fly and everything will be wrapped.

[asar]

Ah yes GOOD FELLOWS !!!

[gmasterbit]

let's take a sober and reasonable look at the situation — it’s inside a Ukrainian showdown, Ukraine is a different country and it makes no sense to officially get in. If troops are brought in, official Ukrainian authorities and the people of the southeast can turn up against us. Let's transfer the situation to us, the war in Chechnya and The United Nations or the same American troops suddenly enter forces? I’m sure that in this situation everyone would unite against them, the same will happen in Ukraine. And unofficially helping a party that is in our interests is already the government’s business, and it doesn’t have to report on this help on internet resources and television news

[fevg]

Quote: ispaniard

... during the assault on the Donetsk airport, the junta mercenaries were taken out of the airport in cars with DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS symbols ...

I heard something else: on TV they showed a burned car with honey symbols, on which the militia tried to take the wounded out of the airport. Shot from grenade launchers.

[cerbuk6155]

Guys hold on, step on, knock them out of all the settlements. Where is the general mobilization. Sit in one place and they will crush you and everyone will flood with blood all around.

[valday]

Of course, the situation there is difficult now, both sides claim almost hundreds of dead, but in fact they can’t show anything. In addition to those turntables that the militia shot down near Slavyansk almost a month ago and killed civilians.

[Dave36]

How to say ... if we don’t take Crimea, I would agree with the author of the post above, and so the whole cheese collection is from Russia ... we made it clear that we would help, we won’t leave .... but no ... that's it not this way. It is clear that everything is not one-to-one, but when Putin spoke beautifully ... he listened and acted ...

[coolvoldik]

The time when it was possible to "painlessly" destroy the illegal government in Kiev, alas, has passed.
Either it was necessary to destroy the group in Raisins before the election, or to disrupt the elections. Now, to stop the ATO, you’ll have to start an attack right on Brussels,

[fevg]

Quote: MIKHAN

Here read (laugh) ...)))) Brainwashing ..! There are a lot of Strelkov and you won’t do anything with them ..

The shooters were guarded by the Gifts of the Magi. In between, I visited the Maidan. Video. http://rusvesna.su/news/1401131639

[Turkir]

Thanks for the link.
Poles in Karachun were noted.
All the scum of Europe is already in Ukraine.
And the comments on this page show the mental level of the mumbo-jumbo tribe.

[aleks 62]

[quote = MIKHAN] [quote] Kiev again framed the UN. In the battles for the airport of Donetsk, a Mi-24 helicopter with the symbols of the organization was used. [/ Quote]
Such immediately bring down nafig ..! They seem to hold well .. [/ quote .....
.... Now there has passed info (Yandex ru) about the shelling of a truck with wounded militias ... Many dead ... Who else has info on the topic, please unsubscribe ..

[jovanni]

Ban Ki-moon must be deprived of the prize, maybe then he will see the light, and he will see UN symbols on dill helicopters.
And we, by the way, give away sickly grandmothers to the UN!

[narn]

how everything is changing rapidly ... just a couple of days ago everyone here admired the wisdom and foresight of our leadership, and how the point of view on what happened yesterday ... and judging by the statements, this disappointment is only growing ...

[hommer]

Quote: narn

how the point of view on what happened yesterday ... and judging by the statements, this disappointment only grows ...

Personally, I was alarmed by Ivanov's phrase - "The main thing, where is 3,5 yards?"

If the main thing is, then sadly ...

[gas113]

Yes, I noticed it too. Type people die FSUs, and money is the main thing. Distorted ...

[mamont5]

"The militia shot down two helicopters of the Ukrainian armed forces."

That ukrovskie Air Force lost fear again - they began to fly. They thought that Strelkov’s fighters were far away, so it’s possible. But figs to them. Sit and not rock the boat.

[talnax7]

It’s trash in this situation that such a technique went to asshole who kill their citizens. And people created helicopters to protect their country.

[aleks 62]

Quote: north

The Mi-24 is well-armored from below; you can’t break it from the PTRS either. Mi-8 yes, you can.

.... Easily and ptrs will strike ..... PRTS penetrates up to 40mm of armor, and in vert, in places up to 12mm ... The problem is to hit a fast-moving target ... Here, the instinct is necessary at the subconscious level ..

[Tequilla]

If you will, my humble opinion. The DNR army has MANPADS; on the video of the assault on the air traffic, a DNR soldier runs with a tube. Also, see how they are equipped (!). On some kalashs, collimators and optical sights ... ags ... mmmm ... Do not make alarmists-where the hedge-Putinish army? With mat.chastom it seems to me better and better.
The site has air defense systems, the question is how difficult is it to shoot down a helicopter at an altitude of 25-300 meters that shoots heat traps? Question for general development.

[Bully]

Quote: Tequilla

The site has air defense systems, the question is how difficult is it to shoot down a helicopter at an altitude of 25-300 meters that shoots heat traps? Question for general development.

And one more question: do MANPADS have missiles with a sound "head"? At least among the air-to-air missiles with a sonic "head" are present (I saw myself on MIGs when I served as an urgent in the 80s). I don't give a damn about thermal interference!

[r_narozhny]

I also think that Putin is afraid that if Russia brings troops into New Russia, our soldiers will be shot in the back. And why does Russia need this. In New Russia, the troops are small, but pros. Nobody will throw them, their support is not expensive, and the trump card in the negotiations from them is substantial. Russia seeks independence of New Russia or autonomy from Kiev. But Poroshenko is not yet ready for concessions, let's see what happens next, time is on our side, the conflict is not in Russia, but in Ukraine. Russia has taken the US position when it is not fighting on its territory. It is a pity for people, but not Russia began this circus.

[Leopold]

It seems to me alone that the video for the article is complete crap?
- very close regularly, as ordered, shoot solitary
- get dirty so neatly in the blood, impossible
- the dogger about the journalists fired from the mortar literally sp ** did not work

[aleks 62]

Quote: Tequilla

If you will, my humble opinion. The DNR army has MANPADS; on the video of the assault on the air traffic, a DNR soldier runs with a tube. Also, see how they are equipped (!). On some kalashs, collimators and optical sights ... ags ... mmmm ... Do not make alarmists-where the hedge-Putinish army? With mat.chastom it seems to me better and better.
The site has air defense systems, the question is how difficult is it to shoot down a helicopter at an altitude of 25-300 meters that shoots heat traps? Question for general development.

..... In general, the vert has a critical altitude range from 20 to 100m (in case of failure of the engine, it does not have time to switch to autorotation and guaranteed kirdyk) .... For such targets, it is best to shoot with a doublet (2 shots from MANPADS with a slight delay) , Chechens still practiced this .... If the Igla MANPADS with a dual-band homing head, then the target's chances of surviving are few (especially if it is a doublet) ...

[Tequilla]

According to the Czechs, they doubled down the drying 24.
I hope that the DNI fighters for ukrovertuški and one salvo is enough. We are waiting for photos sold at the airport ....

[narn]

PEOPLE, SAY ... WHAT IS THE SITUATION WITH THE AIRPORT? WHO IS ALL THIS MONITORING?

[awg75]

I would really like the news about the fallen helicopters to be true ..... but honestly I do not believe it, for a long time photos and eyewitnesses would have been shown. to maintain morale if only ...
KEEP YOUR GUYS YOU FIGHT FOR YOUR HOMELAND !!!!

[yacht]

Both Donetsk and Lugansk forgot or did not know the basic commandment formulated by Lenin about the need to take control of mail, phone, telegraph, that is, all key communications in modern language. In Lugansk, Bolotov spent about a month in the SBU under the protection of unarmed protesters. In Donetsk, meanwhile, engaged in frank boltology. A moron in the green Dobkin paired with a cunning Jew leaked a protest in Kharkov. The precious time when the junta was organizationally weak was lost. Only the complete incompetence of the leadership of the ATO saved from defeat and the most important thing was saved by Strelok, who organized the defense of the key Slavyansk and pulled out all the combat-ready, at that time, parts of the junta.
The DNI and LC have no more room for error.
One can not hope for Russia's help, it will be very good if Russia does not block the flow of volunteers to the Southeast, and it will provide moral support such as blah blah.

[cerbuk6155]

Quote: cerbuk6155

Guys hold on, step on, knock them out of all the settlements. Where is the general mobilization. Sit in one place and they will crush you and everyone will flood with blood all around.

What cons would I like to know. Or the militia of Donetsk and Lugansk stick you in, and you can’t do anything else, just put a minus.

[ibragim]

Quote: aleks 62

Quote: Tequilla

If you will, my humble opinion. The DNR army has MANPADS; on the video of the assault on the air traffic, a DNR soldier runs with a tube. Also, see how they are equipped (!). On some kalashs, collimators and optical sights ... ags ... mmmm ... Do not make alarmists-where the hedge-Putinish army? With mat.chastom it seems to me better and better.
The site has air defense systems, the question is how difficult is it to shoot down a helicopter at an altitude of 25-300 meters that shoots heat traps? Question for general development.

..... In general, the vert has a critical altitude range from 20 to 100m (in case of failure of the engine, it does not have time to switch to autorotation and guaranteed kirdyk) .... For such targets, it is best to shoot with a doublet (2 shots from MANPADS with a slight delay) , Chechens still practiced this .... If the Igla MANPADS with a dual-band homing head, then the target's chances of surviving are few (especially if it is a doublet) ...

Well, the Czechs at one time shot down turntables from the RPK, the weak link engines, and the tail rotor.

[fevg]

Quote: ed65b (2)

Putin's policy is reduced to "Where is the money for gas and we respect the people's choice" if Russia throws the southeast, the consequences will be catastrophic, we will get not only Bandera Galicia but also the southeast, which hates us fiercely. And voices calling to forget about the southeast in Russia are getting louder and this is alarming.

Quote: Pathfinder

... there is a suspicion that they want to merge the southeast on the sly in return for paying for gas, most likely behind the scenes this basic condition that the West puts can be exchanged for not entering NATO. Surely bargaining is already underway and this will be seen by the intensity of the military junta in the next 2 weeks

Keep your suspicions to yourself and do not make delirium publicly! It looks like a provocation.
1. Ukraine refused to pay. Do you know?
2. NATO will not send troops, despite any threats or requests.
3. For the introduction of Russian or NATO troops, grounds are needed (anyone will say that the declaration of the DPR and LPR is an armed rebellion. "The authorities are fighting terrorists." And on snot about "ours are beaten"; "illegal methods"; "innocent victims" nobody in the West will not pay attention These cases are already in history.
4. The attitude will be embodied that Russia is the main aggressor and sanctions and force can be used against it. I do not expect war, but keep in mind.
5. I agree on the timing - everything can happen very quickly. The president is elected, gives orders - resistance must be suppressed.
6. I do not expect sharp movements of the president.
7. Approximately the same happened in Warsaw during the war, when the Home Army "raised an unprepared rebellion against the Germans. They were in a hurry to take power before the arrival of the spacecraft - there were many dead among the population, the city was destroyed. The spacecraft nevertheless came to the rescue at the cost of huge sacrifices - The fascists were defeated, but then a victorious war was already underway and no English could say a word against it (they warmed the "Polish government in exile").
It remains only:
- fight to volunteers;
- hold rallies in support of New Russia;
- fight with the keyboard at the ready;
- silently watch.
Regrettably.

[yacht]

There was a video with the wounded militias killed yesterday, it is hard to say how many there are, the bodies are in bulk in the back, but there are many. link http://lifenews.ru/news/133914
The sniper took off the driver, and then the injured were shot from automatic weapons and a grenade launcher.

[cerbuk6155]

Guys, an enemy has appeared who gives everyone a minus. Whoever finds him, write who he is.

[yacht]

Stream - clarification on the dead: 29 people died, now they are being cleared of mines in the morgue, since three bodies still contain unexploded ammunition.

[yacht]

Well, finally there is interaction, I’m very glad

Lugansk militia went to help Donetsk

The militia of the Lugansk People's Republic went to help the Donetsk People's Republic, the head of the Lugansk People's Republic Valery Bolotov told reporters on Tuesday in Lugansk.

“Our detachments have already been sent to Donetsk and Slavyansk. We are helping not only with weapons, but also with people,” Bolotov said. “Our groups have gone there,” he added.

[yacht]

Quote: cerbuk6155

Guys, an enemy has appeared who gives everyone a minus. Whoever finds him, write who he is.

,

I understand that it’s offensive when people downvote people for no reason, but by and large, what’s more important is to express your opinion or, being afraid of virtual downvotes, to stick your tongue up your ass?

[Aragorn]

In our country they say that Piglet received such (all-galactic) support from the population, because... supposedly they pin hopes on him that he will quickly establish peace and return everything as it was in the sphere of interests of the average person. People have completely forgotten how to draw their own conclusions. According to the new constitution, the president has the powers of a wedding general; he decides absolutely nothing (like the elections themselves). The Rada even introduces a state of emergency, but they don’t want to, they say the security forces there already have enough powers.

[Leshka]

At this rate, ukrov won’t have any turntables left

[Lord of the Sith]

Quote: Leshka

At this rate, ukrov won’t have any turntables left

So far the score is:
Mi-8 - 2 shot down (1 in Slavyansk and 1 in Donetsk)
Mi-24 - 4 shot down (3 in Slavyansk and 1 in Donetsk)

[SILAnov]

Where is the proof?

[repytw]

Information at 12.00 Donetsk time

[fevg]

Quote: Kilo-11

Yes, the UN does not care that their symbols are used in this punitive operation, since the UN, the OSCE, which they still have there, are six of the USA, all these organizations work to ensure the interests of the USA and NATO. So it's probably time to stop all these disturbances, protests, etc. Maybe it's time to somehow really begin to help New Russia, this is what I mean by our government.

And knock down these parrots with UN-style coloring? Let them “marvel”! Apparently, they took combat-ready ones, and the rest were junk. There is nothing to fly on. Collected from the "Kalash row"?

[Tequilla]

On Lente.vru Pravosek posted some links to a photo of Kamaz. The windshield is like a colander, there are scraps of a truck around the body, someone’s boot, a tarpaulin. Very crumbled... ((((

[bda]

Quote: MIKHAN

Here read (laugh) ...)))) Brainwashing ..! There are a lot of Strelkov and you won’t do anything with them ..

/we are talking about the fact that I.I. Strelkov is a terrorist and a man of the Patriarch/

This is not funny - this is setting the stage for the final destruction of Orthodoxy in Ukraine (with its replacement by the Judaic Uniateism) - one of the last links between our peoples is being torn apart - the community of faith.

We can also assume the following steps: taking advantage of our (one of the most liberal in the world) legislation in the field of freedom of conscience, the Judeo-Uniates will begin (with financial support from the West) to multiply their parishes in Crimea (where they already exist, since the days of “independence”) , and from there - to spread tentacles throughout Russia - to transfer, so to speak, military operations in the religious sphere to our territory, especially since their allies have been identified here for a long time:
- all the near-Riot rabble (sympathizing with the Riot cunts, anti-Orthodox liberals in their genetics, fagots, etc.);
- structures close to Islamic extremists (managed from the same London, and New York - by the way, the most dirty Hizb-ut-Tahrirovites who fled from Crimea in recent weeks fled with their families not to Peshawar somewhere, but to... Lvov - the capital of the Uniate Church, where they were “kindly received”);
- followers of the “Holy See” (back in 2002, four new Catholic dioceses were formed in Russia - according to the number that existed in it before the revolution of 1917, with the only difference that before the revolution such dioceses were located on the territory of what is now Poland and the Baltic states - there where Catholics traditionally lived, and now - in our Central Zone, etc.);
- Scientologists, Mormons and other near-religious sects of American origin, already firmly entrenched in many of our regions.

[bda]

Quote: ed65b

Putin's policy is reduced to "Where is the money for gas and we respect the people's choice" if Russia throws the southeast, the consequences will be catastrophic, we will get not only Bandera Galicia but also the southeast, which hates us fiercely. And voices calling to forget about the southeast in Russia are getting louder and this is alarming.

The South-East was “surrendered” on May 7 this year. and only the impotence of the Kyiv junta did not allow it to take this South-East right away.

[bda]

Quote: fevg

It remains only:
- fight to volunteers;
- hold rallies in support of New Russia;
- fight with the keyboard at the ready;
- silently watch.

If everyone sees that “the South-East project has been merged,” then who will “volunteer” there?

[bda]

Quote: yacht

Quote: cerbuk6155
Guys, an enemy has appeared who gives everyone a minus. Whoever finds him, write who he is.

There is an ancient Chinese curse: “So that you don’t even have enemies!”
So there is no need to be afraid of “minuses” - if they exist, then your words do not just shake the air.

[tux]

Or maybe we should throw the same tricks at the DPR to increase the militia’s chances of success? Verts with UN symbols - go and prove that they are ours.