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Sergey Mikheev: "In Ukraine, the state is being dismantled"

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Sergey Mikheev: "In Ukraine, the state is being dismantled"- Sergey Alexandrovich, no sensation, as expected, won the "chocolate king" Petro Poroshenko. The West, long before 25 in May, announced the upcoming elections as legitimate, “transparent” and almost an example of democracy. Idyll - and only. Petro Poroshenko - on the assurances of some experts, almost a "friend of Moscow" and allegedly intend to abandon the use of force against the "dissenters" in the South-East. Do you think the new government will understand that the controversial issues in the country should be resolved only by legal means?


- The president is new, he will have to form a certain team. Most likely, not on their own, but “under the supervision of” Bandera, who call themselves “revolutionaries”. If the same people who brought Euromaidan to their offices remain in power in Kiev, then I fear that after some time we will witness the final collapse of Ukraine.

Moreover, the collapse as a result of the growing civil war in the country. Washington today is doing everything to unleash a full-scale civilian bloodshed, draw Russia into it, and then declare it the aggressor. Then the Americans will not even need to coordinate sanctions against Moscow with European allies. I do not rule out that in this case Russia will simply be declared a fascist state, after all, there are politicians in the West who have long tried to expose our leadership to Nazi dictators. At the same time, of course, the United States will "build" the European Union. The Old World already has its own problems, so Washington also draws it into the Ukrainian crisis. First, that the sanctions, which are very unfavorable for European business, look like a kind of collective punishment, demonstrating the unity of the views of NATO allies. Secondly, it is possible that this is done to undermine the euro and strengthen the dollar, declining to shale gas, and so on. And thirdly, in this case, the United States will, like the last racketeers, “sell” its “protection against the red threat” to the Europeans. Over the past 23 years, Brussels and Washington have frantically searched for the meaning of NATO to present it to the world.

The North Atlantic bloc was preparing to repel a certain aggression of North Korea, then to neutralize the mythical Iranian long-range missiles ... Everything is now found! It’s a great opportunity to announce to everyone that today Russia wants to devour Vilnius, Warsaw, and then the “Bolshevik Cossacks” will enter Paris. "Protection" costs money, NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen literally put a knife to the throat of careless members of the alliance, demanding that they increase military budgets. At the same time in Brussels are preparing new "defensive plans", the increase in the number of military exercises, the deployment of more significant contingents in Eastern Europe.

Well, and on the sly, they will begin to solve the “problems” in Venezuela and Syria, distracting Moscow’s attention from the scenario that is being implemented by the West in these countries.

“You know, many of us ask ourselves a very simple question: what, the Ukrainians themselves, cannot understand the real essence of the events taking place in their country?” Are they so brainwashed?

- My answer to this question is also very interesting. Well, okay, many Ukrainians were convinced that byak, Russia is not good, he has been poisoned all his life. But there is an objective analysis of the situation: you just have to look at the actions of the current authorities in Kiev and how the West supports them. Understand that all these actions and scenarios objectively lead to the destruction of the Ukrainian state. Back in the fall, when the “Maidan” was just beginning, I repeated many times that people on Independence Square in the capital of Ukraine are destroying their own sovereign statehood. To which my colleagues in Kiev answered me: “No, you simply do not know Ukraine.” It turned out that I know something, but it turns out they do not know. In fact, we see now the dismantling of the state.

Why do most people, for example, in Kiev, behave like hypnotized? If you don’t like Russia, don’t. But do you really not realize that people who have come to power are driving nails into the coffin of their country. On Maidan, politicians from the stage loudly and hoarsely assured everyone and everything in their great love for Nenko. And no one sees that self-styled "patriots" are destroying a country? Not the FSB destroys Ukraine, not the GRU, but they.

It is extremely important to understand: in order to save Ukraine, it is necessary to remove those figures who were brought to power by the “Maidan”. Viktor Yanukovych bad? Come on, everyone drove and forgotten. But the current illegitimate leaders in Kiev will surely end the country. Someone deliberately, some - just by their "stupid". This applies primarily to the bulk of neo-Nazis. All that they want is to kill, strangle, revenge, put on their knees with impunity. They do not even want to fight, because you can die. But the dream to engage in lawlessness against unarmed citizens came true.

So, I repeat: these figures will remain in power in Kiev - and we will see two, three, and, perhaps, four Ukraine. I wish there was no blood. But, unfortunately, while my scenario for Ukraine is negative, there are two options: “Bad” and “Very Bad”.

- You mentioned Viktor Yanukovych, who to this day remains the legally elected president of the country. I recently heard from my acquaintance naive arguments that the head of state who fled from Kiev is still able to return there with triumph, and this will happen when the enlightened people call him ...

- Possible developments with the participation of V. Yanukovych may look as follows. He returns to Donetsk, convenes his own government there and begins to assure: “Ukraine is here! The capital and the cabinet will be in Donetsk. I am the president of Ukraine. Ukraine, which is here. " From Kiev they begin to answer that Ukraine is there, the quarrel begins ...

Technologically - quite possible option. But for the time being, there are simply no conditions for its implementation, because V. Yanukovych, in fact, to a large extent, as a politician, has gone bankrupt. The Southeast does not like him much either, because the presidential "Party of Regions" Southeast betrayed, as its recent congress in Donetsk showed. No "PR" nothing to do with the Southeast.

One of the main ills of this region is that during all the years of Ukraine’s existence as an independent state, it did not have adequate political representation. The Party of Regions was actually a project of financial-industrial groups and local bureaucrats, who solved their own problems, and used voters for their re-election.

Moreover, for the return of V. Yanukovych security conditions are not created. After all, he is not an antique hero who is ready to fight the hundred-headed hydra. He needs comfortable conditions, which are not in Donetsk today. Imagine, he flies to his Donetsk or Lugansk, and tomorrow some sniper kills him - and “hello”, there is no legally elected president. After that, they rejoice in Kiev: “The problem is less. Did you say that you had a legitimate president somewhere? He is no more. ”

Therefore, the return of V. Yanukovych today is not in question. Theoretically this is possible, practically there are no conditions for this.

- The main question is: do you think that the new government will take seriously the demands of the South-East of Ukraine on the federalization of the country? Instead of holding "parties" called "round tables" and the adoption of "memorandums" about the need to "disarm the terrorists" will enter into negotiations with the leadership of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics?

- In fact, the idea of ​​federalizing Ukraine appeared a long time ago, and it was not Moscow who invented it and now threw it. The project of federalization was discussed in the administration of Leonid Kuchma, the “papers” of similar content were in the administration of V. Yanukovych, the “Party of Regions” also promised to do this. Why? But because the realities of Ukraine are such, the internal watershed is so deep that the unitary structure of the country did not allow solving these issues.

And all the 23s of the year of the post-Soviet Ukraine clearly show that the conflict was constantly reproduced, including because of the nearness of Kiev politicians. Instead of “healing” the conflict, they constantly pressed on a sore spot, deepening the gap between people, in effect declaring half of the country second-class citizens. He also did not “heal” for objective reasons: the outlook on life, on the future and on the past, and the worldview of people living in different parts of the country are very different.

Therefore, the entire period of the existence of Ukraine as an independent state, federalization projects have now surfaced and now artificially moved into a closet. And now the problem is so acute, because the state is indeed on the verge of civil war.

And how to save it? Exclusively through the implementation of the project to change the state system. Therefore, I believe that the separatists are just people in Kiev who decided that they would impose their whole country with hard power, only their own vision of the world.

Through the "knee break" does not work. And it turns out that those who insist on a military or military solution to the problem simply postpone the division of the country - but not for the most distant future, I am sure. Instead of finding a compromise and a peaceful way to resolve the situation, in Kiev today they think that by killing a couple of hundred people and a couple of thousand by going to jail, they will “close” the question forever. No, they will not “close”, and in the future it can be solved exclusively in an absolutely radical form.

However, in my opinion, federalization is already a thing of the past. Kiev did not heed the voice of reason and now a significant part of people in the South-East of Ukraine no longer want any federalization - only independence or accession to Russia.

- If I understand correctly, the consideration of the issue of federalization after the presidential elections in Kiev will also be viewed through an automatic rifle scope ...

- “Post-Maid” politicians before the elections demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of what is happening in their own country, and a very weak understanding of the events around their country. Therefore, it is very possible that the train "Federalization" will soon pass the train finally, and talk about it will be yesterday afternoon. The question will already be about the need for a confederative structure, and, perhaps, politicians will even bring the matter to a split in Ukraine. They do not understand: there is still time and the opportunity to make a stop at this “station”, to begin, finally, to negotiate. Moreover, we are already talking not only about Donetsk and Lugansk, which proclaimed independence, but also about other regions of the country.

But I have a feeling that the further, the prospect of civilized federalization becomes less and less. Think, why do people in the South-East of Ukraine need such a Kiev? For what? How will he help the South-East? Solve economic problems? Not. We hear that in Kiev, in fact, these people are called almost slaves, who must be a hoax to the elite, who came from Lviv and set their own rules of the game. Or, perhaps, Kiev promises prosperity in this region? Not. He wants to sign an association agreement with the European Union. The political part is already “endorsed”, and when the economic component is signed, the economy of the Southeast will simply collapse and people will be on the street. They will become unemployed, their families will go around the world to look for food.

Next: maybe Kiev is ready to solve their cultural problems? Not. Kiev rigidly imposes on them not even Ukrainization and neo-Nazi banderization. He says, "Everything you knew about stories, about yourself and your future, it's not true, you have to forget and trample. Now either you are praying on Bandera, on the European Union and on Washington, or you are not people at all. ” Maybe solve the problems of education? Also no. Kiev has no positive offer for the South-East, no picture of an attractive future. Only threats, insults and violence.

In fact, the federation aims to organize the harmonious coexistence of people. The current position of Kiev to such a harmonious coexistence within the framework of this state does not lead. Then the question is: why do we need Kiev at all, Donetsk, Odessa, Kharkov? For what? What functions in relation to these regions will it perform? What is the use, what positive effect will the South-East get from the “center”?

The question is rhetorical.

If in Kiev they refuse to understand this, the “Federalization” station will indeed soon be left behind, and no one will talk about it anymore. While we see only the authorities' desire either to deceive supporters of federalization, or “crush” them, Kiev interprets the Geneva accords exclusively in its favor, considering them as a means to defeat the opposition in the South-East. The authorities legalized their own extremists, writing them down to the National Guard, to a certain Dnepr battalion ...

All the rest they consider extremists. For example, in the documents that were approved in Geneva, it says about the amnesty of all, except for people who have committed serious crimes. But what are serious crimes? Who will qualify all acts? The constitutional court is dispersed by force, the courts of general jurisdiction are not allowed to work normally, they let judges through some “corridors of shame”, are beaten, they are not allowed to live normally.

Do you know why dispersed? Why, the Constitutional Court, in accordance with the Basic Law of Ukraine, had to inevitably decide on the illegality of the coup d’état. Therefore, he was immediately slammed, and no one is going to revive. There is no constitutional court, but there is no demand, as they say, nothing, everything is supposedly by law ...

So it turns out: Kiev announced all people in the East by separatists, and for separatism - from 15 years to life imprisonment. The murderers who were outraged on the “Maidan” did not commit serious crimes from the point of view of the authorities, and will be amnestied. But the man who in the South-East took part in the rally for federalization, has already committed a serious crime. You know, the law does not work, it is not an agreement, it is, as they said in one Soviet film, a painting where you send it, that it will pierce its head.

Here it is, the essence of Kiev’s policy is to deceive everybody, get “preferences” from the West and constantly hide behind conversations on the theme that “Washington supports us”. Absolute dead end! Americans don’t approve of the actions of the junta in the Southeast; nobody cares about the fate of Donetsk people in Donetsk, not in Washington and not in Brussels.

- I will return to the winner of the presidential election. Please complete the phrase: “By voting for Petro Poroshenko, Ukrainian voters voted for ...”. For what? And will they get what they expect?

- I think that the voters did not actually vote for Petro Poroshenko. The real results of the election, most likely, no one will ever know. Poroshenko won because he reached an agreement with the Americans, and they contributed to reaching agreement on his candidacy among other actors in the current government in Kiev. Simply put, the results are “correctly calculated.” Therefore, it is difficult to talk about exactly what the Ukrainian voter voted for.

At least, it seems rather strange that the “Maidan” squealed for three months, cursing all the oligarchs, but suddenly the Ukrainian people loved one of them so much that they even made him president. And several others, by the way, governors. All this is farce, cynical imitation and nothing more. And the ordinary voter just used it.

By the way, for the same reason, personally, I never believed in the possibility of holding an all-Ukrainian referendum on federalization. After all, the will will begin to organize Kiev, and he has one goal - to bury the very idea of ​​federalization. Juggling the results of the vote, and then waving this falsified piece of paper and shouting joyfully: “We held a referendum, the people said“ No! ”. For rigging the counting of votes in power are enormous opportunities.

In general, the Ukrainian people are sick with different pipe dreams. Some rave about European integration, which supposedly solves all problems. Others consider themselves to be the highest race on which slaves from the southeast should work. All this is nonsense, and delirium is dangerous. And the main problem of the citizens of Ukraine is that they allowed themselves to be convinced of all this.

- By the way: do you not take seriously the threat of Yulia Tymoshenko shortly before the elections in the event of your defeat to organize a new “Maidan”? Will the “revolution” continue after Poroshenko’s election?

- It may well be. After all, “Maidan” is the only effective “know-how” of Ukrainian statehood. True, self-destructive. Ukrainians made an almost religious cult out of Maidan.

One problem: Tymoshenko may not have enough money to organize another revolution. After all, in fact, "people's anger" is very expensive. Let's say this “Maidan” took up to 20 million dollars a week. Does Tymoshenko have such a resource, I do not know.
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  1. ispaniard
    ispaniard 27 May 2014 10: 14
    +6
    No, the film "Maidan 3 - Uprising of Klyuka" will not pull "Zachka" stupidly enough money laughing
    1. Baikal
      Baikal 27 May 2014 14: 31
      +5
      In Ukraine, the brain is being dismantled, first of all.
      With overfulfillment of the plan, measures are also being taken to dismantle conscience, honor and memory.
      1. Silkway0026
        Silkway0026 27 May 2014 14: 52
        +15
        or maybe this education is not worth it to fight for it. They don’t need a damn thing. In Donetsk, the millionth city, they are killed like rabbits, and several hundred people are fighting! I'm in a stupor, I don’t want any news, no comments, nothing ...
        1. Kuvabatake
          Kuvabatake 27 May 2014 15: 07
          +4
          I completely agree. It turns out this way: You have shit in the hut, you wait for the guests to finish, so that they can clean up after them.
          1. Salamander
            Salamander 27 May 2014 16: 03
            +2
            In Ukraine, power has already been dismantled. By the way, does Porosenko remind you of nobody?
      2. Rebus
        Rebus 27 May 2014 15: 17
        +6
        Quote: Baikal
        In Ukraine, the brain is being dismantled, first of all.

        You can’t dismantle what is missing ... Judging by the last 23 years, there’s not even a slot for brains ...
      3. yushch
        yushch 27 May 2014 21: 52
        0
        Dismantling of brains in Ukraine does not go, because it successfully passed there after the first Maidan))
  2. DanSabaka
    DanSabaka 27 May 2014 14: 29
    +1
    Well, they chose a cone, so what? dill has yet to redo the constitution, in the near future ... and whether the prezik will have power is a big question ....
    1. Not angry
      Not angry 27 May 2014 14: 56
      +4
      Quote: DanSabaka
      Well, they chose a cone, so what? dill has yet to redo the constitution, in the near future ... and whether the prezik will have power is a big question ....




      He will have as much power as the owners will give him because of the puddle. It has long been obvious who rules dill. And it doesn’t really matter who is sitting in the chair under the sign of the condiment of dill (to write Ukraine, the hand does not rise).
  3. fzr1000
    fzr1000 27 May 2014 14: 32
    +21
    MAY 25, 2014 UKRAINE KNEWED
    Look at this picture, what a shame, but how well it demonstrates the humility of Ukraine to the West ...
    The Ukrainian general knelt before the US ambassador and gives him a saber. According to custom, when they presented a saber, the one to whom it was given should kneel down, and not the one who gives.
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    2. bubalik
      bubalik 27 May 2014 14: 45
      +10
      fzr1000 SU  Today, 14: 32 but how well he demonstrates the humility of Ukraine to the West ...
      in this scene the same is brightly displayed ,,,
    3. SS68SS
      SS68SS 27 May 2014 14: 58
      +8
      POSOROUSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    5. Kuvabatake
      Kuvabatake 27 May 2014 15: 08
      +5
      This is if they give, but do not surrender to the winner ...
      1. mamont5
        mamont5 27 May 2014 17: 38
        +3
        Quote: Kuvabatake
        This is if they give, but do not surrender to the winner ...


        Here it is surrender, not a gift.
    6. smile
      smile 27 May 2014 15: 31
      +4
      fzr1000
      :)) Well, why, while still kneeling, the representatives of the just captured colony are holding out gifts to the owner, expressing humility. This is what is observed in this successful photo.
    7. VNP1958PVN
      VNP1958PVN 27 May 2014 15: 39
      +2
      Why, a normal position for European love! To become a general, too, because he licked someone ...
    8. vsoltan
      vsoltan 27 May 2014 16: 12
      +1
      But the ambassador, you understand, not versed in etiquette or history .... stupid, as noted by Zadornov
    9. vignat21
      vignat21 27 May 2014 19: 32
      +1
      the one to whom it was given should kneel down, and not the one who gives.

      And if the giver of the saber is on his knee, then this means complete submission to the recipient. But dill generals do not know this. The picture was taken on the Kherson embankment.
  4. AleksPol
    AleksPol 27 May 2014 14: 33
    0
    Well, if we are a multinational state, the Nazis, then the framework of the saint
  5. neri73-r
    neri73-r 27 May 2014 14: 33
    +2
    Our need to think, maybe toss a little money, let’s rebel!
    1. Kuvabatake
      Kuvabatake 27 May 2014 15: 09
      +5
      Nah. Riot must be arranged in the states.
      1. zzz
        zzz 27 May 2014 15: 24
        0
        Quote: Kuvabatake
        Nah. Riot must be arranged in the states.


        Looking at all the disgrace in the world that the United States creates, I think that this is the only way out - to cook a revolution in the states!
      2. smile
        smile 27 May 2014 15: 39
        0
        Kuvabatake

        So already satisfied. :))) Moreover, the Americans themselves.

        "The American Spring has come to the United States. This is how activists called a series of mass protests against the White House policy. The first of the planned rallies took place in Washington. The protesters took to the streets under the slogan" Arrest Obama! " and “Obama has lost!” The main demands of the demonstrators are the resignation of the President, Vice President and Attorney General of the United States and the closure of all American military bases abroad. The organizer of the rally, a retired American officer, is confident that in the coming months the “American spring” will sweep across the country. "

        18 May 2014, 03: 42

        Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/32390#ixzz32unS4bEJ

        So it's not yet ... summer. :))))
        1. X Y Z
          X Y Z 27 May 2014 16: 02
          +1
          Anything is possible, but after all, all sorts of "color revolutions" and "springs" are purely export goods and are not allowed on the local market. In America itself, these cases are suppressed with the utmost cruelty, without hesitation in the means. An example of this is the Texian separatists or the Occupy Wall Street movement.
      3. vsoltan
        vsoltan 27 May 2014 16: 15
        0
        Yeah, a thread like Negro riots in Washington ... or you can still for the separation of Quebec from Canada .... and then call around the world .... and support financially. I think this option is also calculated in the GRU
  6. leytenant
    leytenant 27 May 2014 14: 36
    +6
    most likely Ukraine as a state, if in a couple of years it remains, then within the borders of Kiev and several other border regions. Dismantling is just beginning.
  7. bubalik
    bubalik 27 May 2014 14: 38
    +1
    At the same time, of course, the United States will “build” the European Union. The Old World already has enough of its problems, so Washington also draws it into the Ukrainian crisis.


    ,,, "Mistrals" even want to redeem, so that France would be more accommodating ,,,

    European and American experts believe that, under US pressure, France may sell one of two Mistral helicopter ships ordered by Russia to another country. Potential buyers include Brazil, the USA, and EU countries.

    According to DefenseNews, the French authorities are considering a partial termination of the sale of helicopter carriers. This will affect the Sevastopol ship, which has not yet been assembled to the end. At the same time, the representative of the American military-consulting company ICSA Robbin Laird believes that the United States has the power to offer France a ransom of two ships at once, that is, including Vladivostok. France, according to existing agreements, will incur penalties, but the US proposal compensates for them.

    http://www.b-port.com/news/item/130381.html#ixzz32uYUgnDp
    1. Blondy
      Blondy 27 May 2014 15: 27
      +3
      While all this "promised - does not mean married" - this is in the first place. After the purchase, ours supply these helicopter carriers with Russian helicopters. And in what configuration will France have to sell them? This is second. Well, and thirdly, where they will find yet another defense minister, already "more competent" than Serdyukov, to suck this "underproduct" in him.
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 27 May 2014 15: 33
        0
        Blondy SU  Today, 15: 27

        ,,, wait and see for further development in this matter ,,,
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    2. vsoltan
      vsoltan 27 May 2014 16: 18
      +1
      Yes, to hell with them, with the Mistrals ... we do not need them, they only work up to + 7, it’s colder - everything, Khan. Another Perdyukovsky scam
  8. arch_kate3
    arch_kate3 27 May 2014 14: 39
    +3
    Most likely, the current situation will drag on and there will be nothing good in the near future ... As long as America is strong with its dollars, the military conflict will continue, unfortunately ...
    1. zbidnev
      zbidnev 27 May 2014 14: 42
      -19%
      Until you calm down then everything will calm down. Take your Chechnya back to your place and continue with it !!! "
      1. ispaniard
        ispaniard 27 May 2014 14: 50
        +10
        And you take your suckers BANDERLOGs youngsters and mercenaries from Poland and the USA from NOVOROSSIA, free from your "Blue Maidan" ... Then we will disperse HUNTENOK. P.S. For Odessa, you will separately answer ... Yes, and Kamaz in Donetsk was covered with Chechens in vain, in vain ...sad In general, sleep nervously and little, suddenly woke up at the head? wink
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      3. fzr1000
        fzr1000 27 May 2014 14: 50
        +6
        Polish the tongue, Svidomo, this is your last working tool.
        1. kot28.ru
          kot28.ru 27 May 2014 15: 54
          0
          still vaseline, lubricate a point, in a geyropu dill breaks !!!
      4. smile
        smile 27 May 2014 15: 49
        +3
        zbidnev
        Pray to your Bandera and daddy yogo-damn bald so that fairy tales about the Chechens, replicated in the trash called by your media, do not turn out to be harsh reality. Ramzan has already expressed a desire to return his credit to Bandera for supporting Chechen religious fascists, they just haven’t given him a command yet.
        But even more people like you should be afraid that we will come to help your anti-fascists beat the separatists - these are not a couple of Chechen battalions, they are Russians. And if that happens, the word most commonly used by people like you will be "mom" ....
      5. vsoltan
        vsoltan 27 May 2014 16: 19
        0
        Rude and boorish. It’s necessary to ban. Hey, moderators?
  9. Same lech
    Same lech 27 May 2014 14: 47
    +3
    while my scenario in Ukraine is negative, there are two options: “Bad” and “Very Bad”.


    I agree .... fool judging by the troll which has flown now it will be so (to administrators ... smile I ask you not to delete it, otherwise I still can’t talk to them in Ukrainian ... the websites constantly get me out of there for ... heh heh mosk ... language)
  10. lexx2038
    lexx2038 27 May 2014 14: 48
    +4
    Maidan will be, but not under Yulka, just many people liked to rob and kill, felt the power of weapons, the taste of blood, some minor with a machine gun feels almost like a god, can bring to his knees almost anyone who is 1000 times smarter and more worthy than himself, therefore they will constantly look for an "enemy" to continue their feast during the plague.
  11. MOISEY
    MOISEY 27 May 2014 14: 51
    +2
    Quote: Baikal
    measures to dismantle conscience, honor and memory.


    They exceeded it already on the Maidan.
    1. Kuvabatake
      Kuvabatake 27 May 2014 15: 10
      0
      There is no limit to perfection...
  12. Vlad Gore
    Vlad Gore 27 May 2014 14: 54
    +7
    Ukraine is self-destructing. With this, everything is clear and understandable. But few people noticed that in parallel with this is the self-destruction of the European Union. Most of the leaders of eurasp serve the State Department, and not their countries and peoples. And increasingly, the European public speaks about this. For Europe, the moment of truth has come. Can Europe free itself from overseas puppeteers?
  13. Giant thought
    Giant thought 27 May 2014 14: 59
    +2
    The state is not being dismantled, but already what is left of it at the moment. Dismantling is successful, Poroshenko will finish the business of his predecessors in a businesslike way.
    1. Not angry
      Not angry 27 May 2014 15: 10
      +1
      Quote: Thought Giant
      Dismantling is successful, Poroshenko will finish the business of his predecessors in a businesslike way.



      And will be the last president of Ukraine. And not by Ibran, but appointed from outside.
  14. MAIGOR
    MAIGOR 27 May 2014 15: 04
    +6
    Overseas puppeteers are interested in the dismantling of an independent Ukrainian
    state. We need chaos and anarchy, no matter who does not matter with whom, but the main thing is that Russia is involved. Ukraine should become a theater of military operations, and Ukrainians - cannon fodder. Surprisingly, Ukrainians agree with this role. We are ready for anything for the sake of the mythical “bright European future”. Only Ukraine has no European future. In the EU they will not be accepted, there are enough of their rogues. And NATO will not accept it either, what the Ukrainian army is all about is already clear. And Russia will not get involved in the conflict. So, that continuous bummer.
    1. VNP1958PVN
      VNP1958PVN 27 May 2014 15: 45
      +1
      By and large, "puppeteers" only need a specific territory, it is possible without a population! They will bring workers ...
  15. dmb
    dmb 27 May 2014 15: 32
    +2
    It is necessary to pour so much water. Well, I would say as it is. I don’t know, brothers, what will happen in Ukraine. I don’t even know which is better, the DPR, which separated and joined Russia, or the existence of Ukraine as a single state, even if it is a member of the European Union. Actually, this does not surprise, because judging by the actions of our authorities, she also does not know this, and she simply does not have any wise strategic plans. But stubbornly, who considers himself an analyst, Mr. Mikheev nevertheless receives a salary for his idle chatter. When Strelkov fights, he obviously does this in the hope of a definite result, when Prokhanov and Dugin broadcast about sacredness, they at least talk about the need to unite the Russians in the ancestral territories, and all of Mikheev’s infringements come down to one thing: US bastards, Poroshenko-k ..l, Bandera with ... ki. Who did not know this before.
  16. mig31
    mig31 27 May 2014 15: 36
    0
    First of all, after the money ends the gray matter, which is given to people who are thinking and reasonable to choose: what is good - what is bad ....
  17. ussrex
    ussrex 27 May 2014 15: 55
    +1
    Well what can I say. If "the great representatives of the Ukrainian nationality" dare to call Russia Rashka, then after the appointment of the oligarch ParAshenko as president of Kaklostan, we have every right to call this geographical misunderstanding with a simple and understandable word: PARASHKA.
    So somehow ...
  18. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 27 May 2014 15: 59
    +3
    I hope our citizens will be smarter than the Ukrainians and will not go on about the 5th column yes
  19. Gagarin
    Gagarin 27 May 2014 16: 08
    +2
    And why the moderators for a certain set of minuses (characterizing that this is a banal Troll and provocateur) just do not forever ban these? What is the point of finding offensive and stinking on the forum?
    Quote: zbidnev
    Take your Chechnya back to you and fuck it further !!
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 27 May 2014 16: 14
      0
      Quote: Gagarin
      And why the moderators for a certain set of minuses (characterizing that this is a banal Troll and provocateur) just do not forever ban these? What is the point of finding offensive and stinking on the forum?

      Banning a particular visitor is the prerogative of Admins. Moderators do not have this right. Banning a particular visitor only on the basis of his statements (unless of course go against the rules of VO) is not provided for by the rules.
  20. Vladimir1960
    Vladimir1960 27 May 2014 16: 31
    +7
    An anecdote in the subject.
    "On May 4, 1626, the Indians sold the island of Manhattan to the Dutch colonists for buttons, beads and other jewelry for a total of $ 24. This deal was considered the most unprofitable in history until December 11, 2013, when US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland acquired the territory of Ukraine from the natives in exchange for a bag of cookies, rolls and bread. "
  21. Fish supervision
    Fish supervision 27 May 2014 16: 33
    +1
    I don’t understand one thing about the author, but in order not to drive us to Paris on armor? soldier
  22. Valkh
    Valkh 27 May 2014 16: 37
    +1
    Quote: zbidnev
    Until you calm down then everything will calm down. Take your Chechnya back to your place and continue with it !!! "


    Slaughter, you yourself will be with a Pole !!! laughing gay
  23. bda
    bda 27 May 2014 16: 52
    +1
    do self-proclaimed “patriots” destroy the country? It is not the FSB that destroys Ukraine, not the GRU, but they.


    Yes, and the bitter root with this Ukraine-destroy, so destroy-one anti-Russian quasi-formation will be less. It will fall into three — four quasiterritories — well. Thirteen - fourteen is even better (after all - for us, guest workers from Ukraine have always been a lesser problem than from Central Asia).
    Our task now is to use this dying rotten bait for catching all parasites, which we have been eagerly planted over the past 25 years (we are talking about the notorious fifth column), so that, figuratively speaking, we’ll bury it all together in one hole (well, like Yarosh Novodvorskaya - Well, let him lie down under his grave, for general satisfaction - as in the famous scene from Taras Bulba).
    If we do not do this now, five or ten years will pass, the now crushed "rain echo-creatures" will again breed, the horrors of the hohlyatsky Maidan will be forgotten - and again - wait for a new swamp Maidan in all its glory!
  24. bda
    bda 27 May 2014 17: 09
    +1
    In general, the Ukrainian people are sick with different pipe dreams. Some rave about European integration, which supposedly solves all problems. Others consider themselves to be the highest race on which slaves from the southeast should work. All this is nonsense, and delirium is dangerous. And the main problem of the citizens of Ukraine is that they allowed themselves to be convinced of all this.


    And at this time, the same "European integrators" with impunity convince you and me and our children with you that:
    - Russians are without exception a nation of slaves;
    - and in general the Russians as a people have already lost their self-identification and it is time to close "this project";
    - we need to obey Zadad in everything - he is smart, and we are fools-lapotniks, etc.
    And under these conversations, we have a well-organized degradation of the system of secondary and higher education (the Bologna process is called) - there is no need for our schoolchildren to join the high sciences - to play games on the Internet, but there will be no time for parties in nightclubs, and therefore let them grow "lapdogs".
  25. bda
    bda 27 May 2014 17: 20
    0
    Quote: dmb
    I don’t even know what is better, the DPR, which separated and joined Russia, or the existence of Ukraine as a single state, even if it is a member of the European Union. Actually, this does not surprise, because judging by the actions of our authorities, she also does not know this, and she simply does not have any wise strategic plans.

    The absence of a coherent internal development strategy based on the basic values ​​of our people will never allow us to create a coherent strategy of external actions - we are doomed to "hit the tails." Sometimes successful. Sometimes not really. Sometimes it is completely "in the wrong steppe". But always - only "on the tails".
    Thanks to the current energetic leadership of the country, the speed of reaction has already been "developed", but, unfortunately, this is only a "reaction" and not an "initiative."
  26. volk0773
    volk0773 27 May 2014 17: 24
    +1
    Nothing new (not the first case and not the last). Ordinary raiding on a state scale. Well paid as someone mentioned above.
  27. mamont5
    mamont5 27 May 2014 17: 31
    0
    “The president is new, he will have to form a certain team. Most likely, not at his own discretion, but“ under the supervision ”of Bandera, who call themselves“ revolutionaries. ”If those who were brought into their offices by“ Euromaidan ”remain in power in Kiev, I am afraid that after some time we will witness the final collapse of Ukraine. "

    So Poroshenko has already stated that he is quite satisfied with Yaytsenyuk. So the prime minister is ready and therefore, conclusions can already be drawn.
  28. bda
    bda 27 May 2014 17: 52
    +1
    Quote: fzr1000
    MAY 25, 2014 UKRAINE KNEWED
    Look at this picture, what a shame, but how well it demonstrates the humility of Ukraine to the West ...
    The Ukrainian general knelt before the US ambassador and gives him a saber. According to custom, when they presented a saber, the one to whom it was given should kneel down, and not the one who gives.


    In June 2003, in honor of the visit to Moscow of a certain J. Soros (the one who through his foundation promotes democracy in Eastern Europe, sponsored the "Chechen Congress" in Poland, invested money in the legalization of homosexuality, prostitution and drugs, etc.) ) in the capital of our Motherland, a whole cycle of "solemn events" was held.

    The actions were carried out by Russian NGOs funded by the same Soros and some representatives of the Russian political elite of that time, who were directly subordinate to him. The performances were according to the scenario: "A deity (Soros) descended from heaven" (that is, it was a collective prayer to that very deity)!

    As the saying goes: what happened is gone, but after all, some active participants in that "prayer" are still flickering in the "corridors of power", and on our television screens they teach us how to live with an intelligent air.
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  30. Chaika
    Chaika 27 May 2014 17: 58
    0

    One problem: Tymoshenko may not have enough money to organize another revolution.

    But there will be enough anger and Yarosh will add
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  32. Chaika
    Chaika 27 May 2014 18: 17
    0
    It is extremely important to understand: to preserve Ukraine, it is necessary to remove those figures who were brought to power by the Maidan. Is Viktor Yanukovych bad? C'mon, everyone, drove and forgot. But now the illegitimate leaders in Kiev will certainly kill the country. Someone deliberately, some simply by their "awn." This applies, first of all, to the bulk of neo-Nazis. All they want is to kill, strangle, avenge, put on their knees with impunity. They don’t even want to fight, because you can die. But the dream to engage in lawlessness against unarmed fellow citizens came true.

    Why preserve a country artificially created from patches at all? Fall apart! It's a pity a lot of blood will be shed !!!! Very sorry!
    1. persei
      persei 27 May 2014 18: 56
      0
      Sorry! Yes, and who can
      to remove those figures whom Maidan brought to power.
      ... They are now in power and are supported by almost the whole world ... The timid voices of the media and ordinary people ... (I do not mean Russia) .. are drowning in the loud statements of "ruling the world"
  33. persei
    persei 27 May 2014 18: 54
    0
    If in Kiev they refuse to understand this, the “Federalization” station will indeed soon be left behind, and no one will talk about it anymore. While we see only the authorities' desire either to deceive supporters of federalization, or “crush” them, Kiev interprets the Geneva accords exclusively in its favor, considering them as a means to defeat the opposition in the South-East. The authorities legalized their own extremists, writing them down to the National Guard, to a certain Dnepr battalion ...

    In Kiev, thoughts of federalization have already left. Now there is the question of solving the South-East of Ukraine only with the help of weapons. To destroy those who are now protecting people (and there are not so many of them) during the ATO, to intimidate those who are on the couch (as some of the inhabitants of Ukraine intimidated) ... The rest, through propaganda, should be made idiots with a nationalistic bias ...
  34. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 27 May 2014 19: 30
    +3
    Dear community ... I don’t know how anyone ... For example, I don’t care at all about dismantling or not ... if people wanted ... really wanted a normal life for themselves ... then he would go out on the streets to fight for HIS WELL-BEING
  35. demotivator
    demotivator 28 May 2014 06: 46
    0
    This dismantling began a long time ago and continues to this day. One of the most powerful armies in the world, inherited by independent Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR, has already been considered a victim of corruption and theft. Tens of billions of dollars from the sale of army property settled in the pockets of politicians and generals.
    In 1991, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine inherited the most powerful military formation in Europe. In particular, Ukraine then had even heavy strategic bomber aircraft.
    In addition, in strategic military bases and warehouses, as an untouchable reserve, designed to mobilize 10 (ten!) Million people (i.e. at least 5 fronts) in the event of an enemy attack, weapons, military equipment, food, ammunition and other were stored foreign assets estimated by foreign experts at 89 (eighty nine!) billion US dollars.
    But almost all of this was sold by Ukrainian companies and firms specially created for this purpose. The sale of weapons from the time of the USSR continues to this day. And on the other hand, it’s good that the Ukrainian Armed Forces did not have any bombers from the times of the USSR. For otherwise, they would have been used to completely destroy such rebellious cities as Slavyansk and Donetsk, following the example of the Americans who bombed Dresden and Cologne at the end of World War II.