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What light armored vehicles will be in demand in the future?


VBL machines of the French army in Mali during Operation Serval. The French army has significantly increased the armored component of its contingent compared with previous interventions

This may seem rather strange when you think about it, but despite the fact that people are born on land, not in water or air, in terms of their movement possibilities, the earth remains the most difficult environment. This is even more true for military mobility, where the ability to move from one point to another is influenced not only by the terrain, but also by the presence of the enemy. The widespread use of mines and roadside bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan, greatly impairing mobility, contributed to the emergence of a new category of vehicles called Mrap (Mine Resistant Ambush Protected - with enhanced mine protection). Machines in this category provided their crews with both ballistic protection and protection against mines and improvised explosive devices (IEDs), while the level of the latter gradually increased as the enemy honed his skills in this deadly art.

After the completion of the withdrawal from Iraq and the ongoing similar process in Afghanistan, the question arises, what will come next? Will future operations be conducted in Iraqi-type deserts or in highlands a la Afghanistan?

The latest military operation was Operation Serval, conducted by French troops in Mali in January 2013. Past military operations on this continent were carried out with the participation of unprotected vehicles, mainly high-capacity trucks, used as armored personnel carriers and weapon platforms. Operation Serval has become completely different historySince a significant part of the French contingent was equipped with armored vehicles, ranging from VBCI infantry fighting vehicles to VAB armored personnel carriers, light armored VBL vehicles and Xerax armored trucks, while the logistics still relied mainly on unprotected vehicles.

Although most areas in Africa offer a choice of route (mainly off-road), which reduces the chances of hitting a buried bomb compared to some of the Afghan valleys with their no-alternative routes, however, driving around Africa in light cars has become a dangerous thing. At the same time, according to French sources, the priorities in Mali were arranged in the following order: information gathering, firepower and protection.

As for mobility, the possibilities of African bridges (as a rule, these are floating bridges) and the size of roads in villages impose serious restrictions on the mass and size of vehicles used.

It is clear that restrictions on the mass and width of the machine are necessary because they can have a strong influence on military operations. After all, mass and width directly affect deployability, and strategic transport aviation has its limitations. But even more important is the availability of adequate landing area infrastructure; it is useless to have a fleet of large transports if the local landing strip is unable to receive and process a sufficient number of aircraft at the same time. And the larger the size of the car, the greater the number of shuttle voyages necessary for their deployment, because the seaport and convenient harbor are not always available.

Thus, reducing logistic load remains a priority, especially for drop-off areas. Another difficult region is Southeast Asia, where many areas have soft soils. Of course, light tracked vehicles will have better mobility on them. As for the new missions in the Middle East region (read Syria), the scenario with a high probability of enemy actions in urban environments should remain dominant.

The extent to which the troops involved in Iraq and Afghanistan in recent years could be involved in multinational missions in one of the above-named regions is a matter of policy. Although it is clear that if governments urge the military to control some contingents in these areas, they will need maximum flexibility. While the US military participation in Africa is growing, at the moment it is limited mainly to military assistance. European countries in many respects take a very similar position, although the only non-African country in this part of Africa is France. Other large countries operating on the African continent also avoid direct hostilities. On the other hand, African countries express their intention to independently deal with local contingents, although in many cases the involved military forces could not provide sufficient reliability.

The main military power in Africa, of course, is South Africa, which ultimately ordered the 264 Badger 8x8 wheeled combat vehicles in various configurations. They will gradually replace the Ratel 6x6 currently in service, as well as other vehicles, such as the Casspir and Mamba. The new machine is based on the Patria AMV chassis and is armed mainly with the Denel 30 mm turret. In order to increase mine protection, it used LMT Flat Floor Technology, which thus interrupted the line of machines with a V-shaped bottom that had been in service with the South African army. With a total mass of 27 tons, it contrasts sharply with the Ratel 19 ton machine.

Because of their mass and size, not all Mrap operating in Iraq and Afghanistan are suitable for other types of terrain.

What light armored vehicles will be in demand in the future?

VAB Mk III is equipped with a TRT tower from BAE Systems. Renault Trucks Defense offers this option to those armies that need effective and affordable BTR / BMP

The Rheinmetall Fuchs machine, developed during the Cold War era, is well adapted to new scenarios and is actively marketed around the world.

Oshkosh M-ATV in Afghanistan. This armored car appeared as a result of the analysis of the experience gained; compared with the previous "behemoths" it has a reduced size and weight, as well as an independent suspension

Very advanced, brand new and yet affordable at the price. Nexter’s Titus APC combines a proven Tatra chassis with a modern armored body and a Cummins engine

Free help and not only

Algeria is another African country that can afford to purchase new armored vehicles. He turned to Germany with an application for the purchase of the first batch of Fuchs 52 machines in the BTR configuration with the intention in the future to buy some more. With a weight of 19 tons and a width of three meters, this machine with the wheel formula 6x6 should provide good permeability on the soils of North Africa.

If smaller machines are needed, the Algerian army will buy Nimr cars designed and manufactured in the United Arab Emirates by a company with the same name and a member of the Tawazun group. In the armored 4X4 configuration, the machine has a width of the entire 2,2 meter and a total weight of about 10 tons. This model is likely to gradually spread throughout North Africa thanks to the plant in the city of Henchela in 400 km from the capital of Algeria.

In fact, Libya became the first buyer of the Nimr light machine. More 150 machines were delivered and most of them were in an armored configuration with an increased level of 3 protection. The latest 49 pieces were delivered at the start of 2013, as a gift to a new Libyan government. Italy for its part donated 20 cars Puma 4x4. The Libyan army also has a light wheeled vehicle BRDM 4х4, inherited from the Cold War times. Most of these machines will be upgraded, a contract for which was signed with the Serbian company South Import.

Kenya also began to update its armored vehicles by purchasing the 8 BRDM-3. Although the acronym means reconnaissance machine should not be confused with light machines BRDM and BRDM-2 4х4. It has a wheel configuration 8x8 very similar to the configuration of the BTR-80A; In a car with a total mass of approximately 15 tons, the crew of the 3 man is located plus six paratroopers. The Kenyan army bought over 60 machines MNUMX-26 of the Mrap type manufactured by South African OTT Technologies, which participated in the fight against Somali rebels Al-Shabab.

In the pictures, the Nimr 6x6 machine with different combat modules; UAE company is actively promoting its family of cars and becoming a new player in the market of light armored vehicles.

The Protector family of vehicles from Mobile Armored Vehicles can provide protection in a wide variety of scenarios.

Video presentation Protector II from Mobile Armored Vehicles with my subtitles

BAE Systems is ready to manufacture its RG31 (pictured in Mk5E configuration) with the level of protection needed by the customer.

Production in Africa

Production of machinery in Africa is mainly concentrated in South Africa. BAE Systems is definitely a major manufacturer with its RG family. The company supplied the RG-32 model to the countries that used these machines in UN military operations on the continent. And it is not surprising, since RG-32 is the smallest member of the family with a width of almost 2,2 meters and a mass of not more than 10 tons. A large number of cars Casspir and Mamba are in service with many African countries. BAE Systems developed the RG Protector 15 ton machine based on the RG-32 project and proposed it in the 4xXNNXX and 4x6 variants.

For the African market, BAE systems offers the RG-31 model in the Mk5 version, which weighs 18,6 tons, and the RG-32 model, which also comes in smaller versions with lower levels of protection in order to cope with the weight restrictions imposed by bad roads. continent.

South African company Mechem Vehicles (a division of Denel) is currently producing a Casspir 2000 machine. Its catalog also contains models Casspir MkII and MkIV. In 2013, Denel Mechem announced a contract for 10 Casspir 2000 machines for the army of Benin, while 15 machines were manufactured for the UN.

Another South African company ICP manufactures armored vehicles; Its models Reva III, IV and V 4x4 weighing from 9 to 13 tons, serve not only in South Africa, but also in Somalia, Equatorial Guinea and South Sudan. Paramount is also a major player, its Mbombe 6x6 BTR provides all-situational awareness, while the Marauder and Matador 4x4 models are Mrap machines with a total mass of 18 tons.

Chad made the European choice by purchasing Acmat Bastion Patsa 22 machines from the French company Renault Trucks Defense, all of which were delivered in 2013 year. Unarmored Acmat cars are quite common in Africa. Morocco is another major customer of Renault in North Africa, its army is using VAB 6x6, which will soon need to be upgraded or replaced.

These are just a few examples of machines that are currently used on the continent with numerous potential hot spots. Few African countries can afford to purchase a large number of vehicles, but the provision of cheap or generally free military equipment always remains a lever of influence on any region. Consequently, a surplus of Mrap class cars, formed in connection with the withdrawal from Afghanistan, could be a solution in some markets, although not all such machines are suitable for operation in some areas.

It was recently claimed that the US Army could have left approximately MNX Xrap machines equally divided between M-ATV and MaxxPro, although specialized equipment, such as Mrap for route clearing, could also remain in operation. It is not yet clear how many such Mrap machines will be exported to their homeland. According to some sources, the US should not leave the most advanced (read better protected) options to the Afghan security forces. With a possible course of events, it is quite understandable that some of them may fall into the hands of insurgents. These vehicles can be used as real targets with the aim of improving the rebels of their roadside bombs and IEDs. The consequences of this will be terrible, because it could mean spreading knowledge throughout the terrorist community. The same sources also speak of returning to their homeland even those machines that cannot be repaired, in order to give the opponent any useful information. However, it is clear that the surplus Mrap will have an impact on the armored vehicles market in the coming years, in particular in areas not too concerned about the standards of road suitability.

Paramount is one of the most innovative South African players. In the pictures, her newest product is a Matador machine.

The army of Chad armed some units with Bastion Patsas machines from Renault Trucks Defense. These "semi-protected" machines are mainly operated by special forces.

The United States purchased over 20000 Mrap machines of various modifications and the US Army plans to leave only 6000 of them. How many of the remaining cars hit the market remains an open question

In the Middle East, a growing number of players in the market of armored vehicles. In addition to the aforementioned Nimr, the Streit Group also develops new machines at its plants in the United Arab Emirates, Canada, USA, India, Russia and Pakistan. The model range varies from the Varan 6x6 BTR / BMP (the prototype is undergoing sea trials) to the modular Scorpion and Typhoon families (available in 4xXNNXX and 4x6 configurations and with independent suspensions). Another company Armored Group has production facilities in the Emirates, Canada and the United States. Her Batt machines (Ballistic Armored Tactical Transport - ballistic defense combat vehicles) were sold to Angola, Chad, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Uganda, but also to other countries, such as Saudi Arabia and Oman in the Middle East, and to Ecuador and Mexico in Central America

The Typhoon 4x4 type Mrap machine with 12,5 tons of tons is offered by the Streit Group - a developing company in the field of armored vehicles.

The Streit Group has plants in the UAE, Canada, USA, India, Russia and Pakistan. It expands its product line and, in addition to MRAP-type vehicles, produces BTR and BMP.

South America and the Far East

South America and the Far East are huge markets, as many armies upgrade their weapons. In Latin America, the largest contract was signed between the Brazilian army and Iveco do Brasil on 2044 VBTP-MR Guarani 6xXNNUMX armored personnel carriers. In addition to good secure mobility and firepower, this machine is considered optimal for the participation of the Brazilian contingent in UN missions. At the end of October, the Brazilian army completed the first operational tests in urban environments and it is not surprising that it deployed its car in Haiti on the eve of the elections scheduled for the beginning of 6.

While few local manufacturers are active in the business of armored military vehicles, and defense budgets appear to continue to decline, many international companies are looking at this region of the world to compensate for military equipment procurement processes in national and western markets. The same applies to other areas, such as India with its huge market, but China is still banned for many Western companies.

However, there are several competing companies in the Far East. Some may conduct independent development, while others are at a sufficiently advanced stage of “development” in order to take part in joint development programs. For example, in Malaysia, Deftech currently manufactures its AV-8 8x8 BTR / BMP based on the Turkish FNSS PARS 8x8 chassis. Singapore’s STK proactively developed Terrex 8x8, while South Korean companies, such as Doosan DST and Hyundai Rotem, have been offering wheeled armored personnel carriers in 6x6 and 8X8 configurations for their national army for many years.

China, of course, remains a very large manufacturer, although at present its main, if not the only customer is the Chinese army, at least as far as vehicles are concerned.

Japan has always clearly fulfilled the prohibition imposed on itself for the export of arms. However, this may soon change, since Tokyo needs to play a more active role in peacekeeping operations, which will obviously lead to a partial lifting of the ban adopted at the end of World War II. America is currently focusing on the Pacific region, where terrain and terrain may differ more strongly than anywhere else. Soft soils cover large areas and determine the use of light tracked vehicles. In this regard, one of the latest developments of Kaplan, presented by the Turkish company FNSS, is approaching Alvis CVR (T) in figures of specific ground pressure. Kaplan tracked vehicles could win on a similar terrain. It remains to be seen how many armies deploy the "correct" vehicles in their next contingents.

Over 1500 Komatsu light armored vehicles are in service with the Japanese Self-Defense Forces. Japan may revise its prohibition policy and become a new player in the secure mobility market.

The Kaplan light tracked vehicle is shown by FNSS in 2013 year. It creates low pressure on the ground, which provides good permeability on soft soils, which can be found in Southeast Asia

Materials used:
Armada International Compendium Air, Sea and Land Mobility 2013
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  1. Tankomaster
    Tankomaster 26 May 2014 10: 27
    "What light armored vehicles will be in demand in the future?" - here only one VBL can be conditionally attributed to lungs. And everything else is already over 10 tons .... inconsistency of the title and article.
  2. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 26 May 2014 11: 09
    As a sapper, I can say that tanks and other heavily armored vehicles, despite their maneuverability, are all the same FORCED to move along certain routes, which are easy to foresee, and therefore mine! Light vehicles such as "buggy" are not tied to the terrain - full-fledged mining of dangerous directions impossible due to their large number.
    In the event of a "shunting" war, light armor is indispensable, plus, as a bonus, the low cost and the ability to install fairly serious weapons.
    P.S. I saw buggies at the landing, good cars! As long as the carriers must be absolutely reckless, I’ll risk no risk of such a ride!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 26 May 2014 12: 00
      10-15 ton cars - a compromise between mobility
      and security. They will withstand an anti-tank mine (they’ll write off the car,
      but people will be saved), and no armored vehicles can withstand a large landmine.
      The trouble is that such cars are very expensive - Jeep Oshkosh
      costs 300-400 thousand dollars.
      1. abc_alex
        abc_alex 26 May 2014 14: 10
        This is if the mine is alone in the open field. A mine lies to itself as a phenomenon and waits for it to be run over. :) Then it may happen as you said - people will be saved.

        And if the mine is part of the ambush? What happens when a war is not waged in very specific conditions? When is at least a "Chechen troika" in prepared positions: a sniper, a machine gunner, a grenade launcher? What then? How long will the crew of an immobilized vehicle last?

        Well, that's what a couple of years ago were extolled by the MIRA staff. Just the new word in armored vehicles they were baptized, all who are not too lazy to check out in a hurry. Now what? The United States does not consider it necessary to export cars at a price of a million apiece from Afghanistan, they are burned or sold for a pittance to the condition of self-delivery.
        1. ICT
          ICT 26 May 2014 14: 39
          Quote: abc_alex
          Now what? The US does not consider it necessary to export cars at a price of a million apiece from Afghanistan,

          and the British take everything out of the cog. this is not the point
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 26 May 2014 15: 04
          "Then what? How long will the crew of the immobilized vehicle last?" ///

          What you suspected could happen. Or maybe not.
          This does not mean that you need to put people in a car that is obviously
          will destroy them. Chance is always a chance.
          I rode the Humvee. Everything is fine - but, mine - death at once, without options.
          And would prefer in this case to sit shell-shocked in an immobilized state, for example.
        3. serega.fedotov
          serega.fedotov 27 May 2014 13: 42
          Buggies and heavy armored personnel carriers have both advantages and disadvantages - only a serious war can reveal them, for example, you can recall - Germany built tigers, panthers, ferdinants and modernized T34s to fight the T4, and the most effective turned out to be "Made 2" - a cannon without serious armor !
          Tanks vryatli will be able to overcome competently designed engineer-sapper obstacles-buggies, but at the same time, tanks have more chances to survive the shelling! Although serious defense without heavy weapons and aircraft will not take anything.
          My opinion is heavy infantry fighting vehicles delivery and support by fire. Light armor patrolling, reconnaissance, long-distance raids behind enemy lines (with the support of aircraft). And perhaps as a vehicle for calculating heavy manual armament of shunting reinforcement groups!
          1. ProkletyiPirat
            ProkletyiPirat 9 December 2017 07: 06
            Quote: serega.fedotov
            To overcome well-designed engineering sappers- buggies will be able to vryatli tanks, but at the same time tanks are more likely to survive the shelling!

            The "competent" barriers are a mixture of anti-personnel and anti-tank weapons. That is, a buggy on a tank mine will not be blown up, but it will be blown up on an infantry mine. At the same time, there is more chance of getting into the infantry, because they are cheaper ...
  3. tchoni
    tchoni 26 May 2014 13: 06
    The way out of the "security-weight" impasse is seen in an increase in the number of vehicles in a subunit, a reduction in the number of paratroopers. For example, having armed a squad instead of one BTR-80, say, 3 armored buggies, designed to carry two soldiers with full protection (protection against detonation on an anti-tank mine and land mine up to 3 kg + protection from small arms bullets) and two paratroopers with partial protection (say mine within the same limits + ballistic from 7.62 armor-piercing bullets in front and on the sides) we significantly increase their protection, since the complete destruction of the unit will require already 3 landmines instead of one or 3 grenade launcher hits on a target significantly less than the BTR-80. If we add here normal situational awareness systems and heavy weapons (a fighter covered with armor and not being a driver can perform the functions of a weapon operator (AGS, normal caliber machine gun)), a quite worthy alternative to modern "conditionally light" vehicles will appear.
    1. abc_alex
      abc_alex 26 May 2014 14: 25
      Well, there are armored buggies in some kind of formation, the front one runs into a mine, tears the suspension. The crew is alive, though dented and deafened. The car is scrapped - of course, but the crew? Are we seating in two other cars? Let's say you have 15 people in the department. 5 in the car. After the failure of one you will get 7 people in one car, 8 people in the other. Since the cars are light, their booked volume is unlikely to accommodate such an overload. It's not just 3 "carcasses" This is their equipment, ammunition, the heavy weapons with which the lost vehicle was equipped. And if the wounded man?

      I am not at all against your idea, it’s just that your arithmetic is not correct. To disable the compartment on the light buggy, you do not need 3 explosions at all. The branch will cease to be full after the first blast.

      By the way, if you add "normal situational awareness systems" to the APC as you planned, then you can reduce the likelihood of an attack on it.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 26 May 2014 18: 36
        "The crew is alive, even though they are dented and deafened. The car is scrapped - I understand, but the crew?"
        Shall we sit in two other cars? "///

        How else? These are your comrades. The same as you. Once
        it becomes possible, they are transferred to paramedics, and then evacuated from the combat zone.
    2. kplayer
      kplayer 26 May 2014 18: 41
      Probably not for nothing that these LIGHT cars are called "dune buggies" and are intended only for operations of special forces, with the direct transport support of helicopters (supply of ammunition and fuels and lubricants, transfer-evacuation, including wounded soldiers and damaged vehicles), are not suitable for use in all natural climatic zones, armor and protection are very conditional, steel sheets (ceramic panels) covering the engine compartment and partially (bottom and low sides) of the crew of 2-3 (4-max.) people, the clearance is also small for protection against land mines and mines, less 0,4m., I.e. less than that of a car of the type HMMWV / Hummer, 4x4 and does not allow for a V-shaped bottom, taking into account the fact that the seats of the two crew members are practically attached to the supporting frame / to the floor of the "buggy".
      1. kplayer
        kplayer 27 May 2014 00: 11
        Speaking of light armored vehicles, the mention of "dune buggies" is at least incorrect, as is the mention of a certain reserve volume for these highly specialized vehicles intended for use in special and reconnaissance operations, and preferably in open areas, in desert, steppe and coastal (beach ) areas. On terrain with high grassy vegetation, "buggies" and their crews run the risk of becoming easy prey even for a dismounted enemy operating from ambushes, which is due to poor viewing conditions by the crew in low-lying seats and high vulnerability due to the lack of any serious armor protection, protection from mines are generally absent.
        Armed "buggies" are used by special forces along with "jeeps" also with an open body type, for example Land Rover-90 (3 people) and -110 (4-6 people) Defender.
        1. tchoni
          tchoni 9 June 2014 08: 35
          speaking about "buggy" I meant that before like the English Daimler Mk1.
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  4. Free wind
    Free wind 26 May 2014 14: 16
    Very interesting armored cars, especially TATRA. If it has a ridge, then the protection from the bottom is like a tank. Its backbone is a very powerful defense. Although I don't understand the hobby of booking serial trucks, it seems like we just take a truck and put armor on it, cheap and cheerful. Hell no! Attached armor can only hold shrapnel and bullets, the weight is obtained from the floor of the tank, the price is also clearly inadequate to the proposed protection. from the bottom of the trucks, its systems are not protected at all. Plus an exorbitantly high silhouette and a high center of gravity. as a result, such an "armored car" can lie down when pulling over to the side of the road or even during a low-power explosion. It seems to me that an armored truck with a 6 * 6 wheel arrangement should have a supporting armored vehicle, the front engine is 450-500 hp. and weight 15-25 tons. As a result, we will get a car capable of running at a speed of 150 km. h. And with protection no worse than that of a tank
    1. max702
      max702 26 May 2014 14: 50
      So you described the standard front-engine armored personnel carrier ..
  5. Greenhorn
    Greenhorn 26 May 2014 14: 22
    Does the V-shaped bottom protect against a land mine, so to speak, cumulative effect?
    1. ICT
      ICT 26 May 2014 14: 30
      Quote: Greenhorn
      from a land mine, so to speak, cumulative action?

      Do they exist in practice? request
      1. Greenhorn
        Greenhorn 26 May 2014 15: 00
        There are anti-tank mines with cumulative effects. Make a funnel out of tin and form an explosive charge. True, it is necessary to attract a specialist sapper to calculate the mass-dimensions. Or bungle something like anti-personnel, where a pistol cartridge is used (forgot the name of the mine), only use an RPG shot instead of a cartridge. Purely theoretically wink
        1. ICT
          ICT 26 May 2014 15: 44
          Quote: Greenhorn
          only use an RPG shot instead of a cartridge

          Well, more practical in this regard are the so-called airborne mines (if there is where to hide), but in theory there are no airborne screens on the bottom, ...... then the frontal tank does not save
          1. serega.fedotov
            serega.fedotov 27 May 2014 13: 21
            Quote: TIT
            Well, more practical in this regard are the so-called airborne mines (if there is where to hide), but in theory there are no airborne screens on the bottom, ...... then the frontal tank does not save

            You are absolutely right, anti-side mines are very simple and effective! But to disguise them is still a crap, since the effect of the "shock core" has a rather narrow zone of destruction (close to the road, it is almost impossible to hide, far away, the jet dissipates)
            But in general, an explosion on the side of 50-100 colograms will not even add health to the crew, even on a tank!
      2. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov 27 May 2014 13: 14
        Quote: TIT
        Quote: Greenhorn
        from a land mine, so to speak, cumulative action?

        Do they exist in practice? request

        There is not just a lot, but VERY many cumulative antisubmarine mines, and the slope of the armored sheets of the bottom is unsaved! The V shaped bottom will help only from homemade mines made of artillery shells!
        1. ICT
          ICT 28 May 2014 19: 52

          and there are VERY many cumulative antishot mines

          Quote: Greenhorn
          from a land mine, so to speak, cumulative action?

          as I understand it, the comrade meant by landmine ,, ... IED
          like we understood each other judging by the following comment
  6. kplayer
    kplayer 26 May 2014 16: 43
    Judging by the article, light wheeled armored vehicles in the West include vehicles with a combat weight of up to 18-20 tons, but not all BMs and especially armored personnel carriers of the MRAP class are aerial transportable S-130 aircraft, as the most common carrier there, then BM should be divided into armored vehicles (BRA) and armored personnel carriers. Even the Oshkosh M-ATV with an apparent mass of 7,5-8 tons, in reality weighs 12,5 tons.
    Buoyancy is usually limited to 22 (-22,5) tons, but this BM property is not applicable to MRAPs and is not considered here as a necessary requirement.
    1. kplayer
      kplayer 27 May 2014 22: 17
      In general, there is no specific reference for the current CLASSIFICATION of armored vehicles, except for rounding off the weight in tons (which each individual can have).
      Possible ways:
      - only combat weight
      - weight and size characteristics
      - air transport by the main type of military-technical cooperation (S-130 / Il-76)
      (- armament)
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  7. Signaller
    Signaller 26 May 2014 16: 52
    What light armored vehicles will be in demand in the future?
    In battles with terrorists, in principle, anything that holds the fire of automatic weapons of caliber 7.62 and below. Everything else - ??? In the same Slavyansk, PTR Simonov is now using a 5-charger, and that's normal. And in battles with the regular army, where there are even Bumblebees, this equipment will reach the soldier with it, and then no matter how. And if with RPG 7 then there is actually nothing to catch there. Mass grave. Therefore, our landing on the BMP or armored personnel carrier and drives. In which case - like a black grouse in the grass, a sniff and you will remain alive if you are lucky.
  8. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 26 May 2014 17: 51
    Now there will be major wars for resources, and these resources in Africa and the Middle East, there will be enough Papuans and cannibals to drive armored cars, a country like Russia is unlikely to want to attack them and the tanks will not save, and from here the conclusion, more cheap weapons will be needed.
  9. mrDimkaP
    mrDimkaP 26 May 2014 19: 12
    About the Bastion Patsas. I don’t understand at all. It seems to be protecting from bullets and costs accordingly, but any fragment from an ordinary grenade will fly over and faucets.
  10. samoletil18
    samoletil18 26 May 2014 23: 02
    I read the article and comments, and in general did not put anything into a coherent system. The only way to use "armored cars" is to disperse the Papuans. Otherwise, all these cans for the crews with the landing, turn into mobile smokehouses. In this case, Russia has a good proposal for guerrilla and warfare: to clean all NZ warehouses and storage bases with armored personnel carriers (-60, -70), BRDM, repair, modernize, improve equipment and put up for sale. And we will earn money, and we will free the warehouses, and we will be in the subject, i.e. we will gain experience in combat use and the possibility of intelligible formation of those. assignments for design bureaus, which will allow creating new samples as close as possible to the maximum in terms of efficiency and understanding the number of units required for the aircraft. Moreover, something unnecessary in the new samples will already be absent, and vice versa, we will not miss anything necessary.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 27 May 2014 15: 24
      Light armored vehicles are divided into:
      1) intelligence
      2) patrol
      3) light armored personnel carriers for the transfer of infantry
      4) light weapons platforms
      (easel machine gun, ATGM, short-range missiles, etc.)
      1. samoletil18
        samoletil18 27 May 2014 20: 16
        That's it! The USSR had experience in equipping ATGMs, SAMs of light armored vehicles. BRDM performs the first two tasks.
  11. Lesorub
    Lesorub 26 May 2014 23: 27
    For a full review, it was necessary to post information about the DOMESTIC light armored cars!
  12. Greenhorn
    Greenhorn 27 May 2014 15: 11
    What will happen to an airborne assault in an open armored personnel carrier in case of a mine or landmine explosion?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 27 May 2014 18: 44
      If the case is tall enough -
      fly up - fractures, concussions. But it's better than to burn
      inside closed.
      1. samoletil18
        samoletil18 27 May 2014 20: 19
        I heard something similar about the BTR-157 when I served in the army.
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 27 May 2014 21: 43
          Quote: samoletil18
          I heard something similar about the BTR-157 when I served in the army.

          I forgot to note that the conversation was about (like talking about events in Hungary in 1957) Molotov cocktails famously flew.
  13. zeleznijdorojnik
    zeleznijdorojnik 28 May 2014 10: 22
    Of the entire fleet presented, only VBL is interesting - precisely because of its small size. Everything else - from the evil one - options for banana republics.
    PS I wrote this comment and looked again at this French armored field - something cut my eyes - on the external suspension just above the neck of the tank - a canister with gasoline .... no comments.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 28 May 2014 11: 16
      VBL - for reconnaissance, when the low body is important.
      American Jeep Oshkosh - to patrol already cleared
      territories. Low profile is not so important, and low security -
      very important.
      The rest is to transport soldiers in an already cleared area and reflect
      minor attacks.
      They go into battle with heavy armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles.
  14. starhina01
    starhina01 28 May 2014 14: 55
    Thank you very much to the author, touched a very interesting topic, different armored personnel carriers are needed, different armored vehicles are important !!! soldier
  15. bublic82009
    bublic82009 29 May 2014 00: 48
    for Africa and Europe they are relevant. for Russia there isn’t except for the south
  16. beifall
    beifall 7 June 2014 16: 52
    For ideally stick to global arms companies and stir up with them!

    In addition, by the end of 2014, a plant for the production of Kazakhstan's armored cars is planned to be launched in Astana. “Construction is already underway, we hope that it will be launched within a year,” B. Smagulov said. He added that in the near future test tests of machines in the armed forces will take place.

    “This project also involves the release of civilian equipment. They will be produced at this plant, maybe there will be jeeps or fire engines, ”the head of the company said. B. Smagulov emphasized that the armored car will be Kazakhstan and is intended for all power structures of the country.

    As reported, the national company Kazakhstan Engineering and the South African Paramount Group discussed the possibility of launching the production of armored vehicles. “It is this company that is ready to provide all the documentation and after the test tests, together with this group and a number of private companies, a Kazakhstani car will be created based on 4 on 4, 6 on 6 and 8 on 8,” B. Smagulov said earlier.