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American missiles in Syria

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American missiles in Syria



The United States seems to be increasing its military aid to the Syrian rebels. So, some of the more moderate rebels were recently spotted with the American TOW anti-tank missile systems. Such American military assistance has long been limited due to fears that high-tech weapon will fall into the hands of Islamic terrorist groups, and then can be used in terrorist attacks against the West.

TOW ATGMs are still widely used in armored and unarmored vehicles and are still quite effective for pinpoint infantry fire support. The use of thin wire in TOW for targeting limits its use to a range of approximately 3700 meters. Wireless systems have about twice the firing range. TOW has been in service since 1970, and since then more than 500 000 missiles have been manufactured (approx. professors - in fact more 600 000) All TOW models are stored, transported and used from a sealed cylindrical container. The 1970 model weighed 19 kg and had a 3.9 kg warhead. The latest model (TOW 2B or BGM-71F) weighs 22.7 kg and carries a 6.2 kg warhead capable of overcoming dynamic protection tank. Missiles are launched from a launcher, including mounts, a fire control system and a battery. It weighs 92.8 kg and is the main reason why TOWs try to place and apply with vehicles.



Last time TOWs were used against tanks in the 2003 year during the invasion of Iraq, since they are often used against enemy strongholds in Iraq and Afghanistan. In the same way they will often be used in Syria. For four decades, the use of TOW was highly appreciated by the operators and it seems that in the next decade or even more they are not going to write off. TOW was innovative for the 1970-ies, but was not able to develop fast enough to compete with new models of ATGM. Therefore, the US feels safe by allowing Syrian rebels to use TOW.



It is quite another thing - portable anti-aircraft missile systems. The rebels continue to persistently ask them to be able to fight off the Syrian military aircraft and helicopters. However, the US fears that these complexes, which fell into the hands of Islamic terrorists, will then bring down Western planes. The Arab states supporting the rebels consider the US restrictions short-sighted, but despite this, they fulfill the American requirements and do not supply anti-aircraft missiles to the Syrian rebels. Thus, these Arab states limited themselves to supplying the rebels with MANPADS acquired on the black market.


Some US officials are fighting for limited air strikes against Syrian government forces, but the US military leadership points out that this can easily lead to civilian casualties and be used by Syria for propaganda purposes in the media. US military experts suggest providing additional training and make every effort to maintain contact with the largest number of rebel groups. This is due to the fact that Islamic terrorists in Syria are likely to be a global threat no matter who wins in Syria.

In Syria, there are believed to be more than 20000 Islamic terrorists, and more than a third of them came to Syria from the outside. Less than a thousand are representatives of Western countries, and they are currently being closely monitored. If the rebels win in Syria, it will turn into a second Libya. There, the locals feel quite uncomfortable with all the Islamic terrorists whom they once provided asylum. The process of liberation from terrorists can take years, because Libyans do not want another war for religious and cultural reasons. Many Muslims view Islamic terrorists as heroes, and not as bloody bandits, as they really are. Muslims are not in a hurry to get rid of Islamic terrorists, because this is a very dangerous step. Islamic terrorists easily kidnap, torture and kill. Moreover, many Muslims indulge in the idea that Islamic terrorists will be able to overthrow the unpopular governments prevalent in the Islamic world and replace the dictator or monarch with something better. Although this will never happen, hope dies last.

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http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htterr/articles/20140522.aspx
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  1. ramin_serg
    ramin_serg 26 May 2014 09: 21
    +1
    American missiles - Russian missiles - Chinese missiles

    They sell everything just to give money
    1. PAM
      PAM 26 May 2014 12: 30
      +4
      yes, they did not seem to be sold, but presented (still write off, otherwise you can achieve your goals. Assad would have to seize a couple of complexes and f .. to get someone a thread ("important" to stink), in the states and in Europe - immediately deliveries weapons will be blocked for terrorists and it will be more difficult to provide them with assistance).
      1. yushch
        yushch 26 May 2014 13: 35
        +2
        Yeah, pin-dos and gave it two mutually exclusive words. Behind the mustache it was paid by the bros from the Emirates and the Saud sheep.
        1. chudoudodelt
          chudoudodelt 26 May 2014 14: 47
          0
          Well, let's say they didn’t give it, but put it at the disposal of their mercenary fighters)
  2. svp67
    svp67 26 May 2014 09: 23
    +3
    "TOU" is a deadly "toy", and not at all for children ... The gringos will finish badly, these "toys" will fly soon to the meeting of the "Abrams"
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 26 May 2014 10: 46
      0
      It is unlikely that they will fly, they are still not completely fools, and soon there will be no abrams in that region, sneakers from the Middle East will leave, these ptrk will fly to merkava rather than abrams.
    2. Nayhas
      Nayhas 26 May 2014 11: 14
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      "TOU" is a deadly "toy", and not at all for children.

      In my opinion, it would be easier to deliver anti-tank mines to the rebels with a multiplicity and self-destruction device. Cheap and cheerful.
      1. Professor
        26 May 2014 11: 17
        +4
        Quote: Nayhas
        In my opinion, it would be easier to deliver anti-tank mines to the rebels with a multiplicity and self-destruction device. Cheap and cheerful.

        MANPADS with a clockwork self-destruction mechanism. Let's say for 3 months I didn’t use the good bye Stinger ... So the wolves are fed and the sheep are safe.
  3. sir.jonn
    sir.jonn 26 May 2014 09: 25
    +1
    Put a weapon in the hands of someone who immediately can make a fuss of it in your back. fool
  4. Gray 43
    Gray 43 26 May 2014 09: 27
    +5
    A country that opposes terrorism is very active in arming and sponsoring it - vile, but predictable. Supplied, considering it obsolete, so it is powerless against "Abrams"? Naive, like children, it will be used against everything, not necessarily against tanks
  5. Nayhas
    Nayhas 26 May 2014 09: 32
    +4
    TOW is "somewhat" cumbersome, you will be tortured to drag around in a city like this, the same applies to the Chinese HJ-8 ATGM ... Our ATGMs look better in this regard ...
  6. JonnyT
    JonnyT 26 May 2014 09: 38
    +2
    a batch of captured complexes can be a very lucky argument at the UN! Like the United States support terrorism. that's why the State Department is careful, and there is no complete certainty that these weapons will not fall into the hands of Assad - practice has shown that the supply columns of the militants often get ambushed by the Assad troops
  7. Khalmamed
    Khalmamed 26 May 2014 09: 59
    0
    Quote: ramin_serg
    American missiles - Russian missiles - Chinese missiles

    They sell everything just to give money

    the greed of human bodies ..., green candy wrappers .., they go soak in drugs ..., interestingly in trouble Russ in Ukraine will also earn ...?
  8. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 26 May 2014 10: 01
    +2
    Quote: JonnyT
    a batch of captured complexes can be a very weighty argument at the UN! Like the US support terrorism

    The USA does not support terrorism, they are the main terrorist of the planet
  9. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 26 May 2014 10: 13
    0
    here somewhere there was an article with a video where the huge stacks of ATGMs they have with the bassoons and other things, where is this interesting from them?
    1. Professor
      26 May 2014 10: 21
      +1
      Quote: jagdpanzer
      here somewhere there was an article with a video where the huge stacks of ATGMs they have with the bassoons and other things, where is this interesting from them?

      From the valiant Assad warriors who surrendered their arsenals to the rebels.
      1. AlexAl
        AlexAl 26 May 2014 10: 50
        +2
        You want to say that the Americans installed the TOW complexes on Bashar al-Assad, who transferred (handed over) them to the terrorists?
        They made fun ...
        1. Professor
          26 May 2014 10: 56
          0
          Quote: AlexAl
          You want to say that the Americans installed the TOW complexes on Bashar al-Assad, who transferred (handed over) them to the terrorists?
          They made fun ...

          Have you tried to quote the article?
          1. AlexAl
            AlexAl 26 May 2014 11: 36
            0
            I’ve been.

            What do you dislike?
            1. Professor
              26 May 2014 11: 41
              0
              Quote: AlexAl
              I’ve been.

              What do you dislike?

              The article just says where the rebels Tou, Fagot and others. Soviet / Russian anti-tank systems from Assad's arsenals and gifts from the monarchies of the bay. That's clearer?
              1. AlexAl
                AlexAl 26 May 2014 11: 54
                0
                Professor - I didn’t write anything about the Fogoty and other Soviet ... I wrote about TOW - the article says that they are from the most democratic democrats, and there’s nothing to beat the terrorists with. That's clearer? And about the bassoons in the article there is nothing. request
                1. Professor
                  26 May 2014 11: 58
                  0
                  Quote: AlexAl
                  You want to say that the Americans installed the TOW complexes on Bashar al-Assad, who transferred (handed over) them to the terrorists?
                  They made fun ...

                  Your words? So Tou from Obama, Bassoons from Assad.
                  1. AlexAl
                    AlexAl 26 May 2014 12: 01
                    0
                    And what, in my words - is there a clown?
                    And these are your words: "From the valiant warriors of Assad who surrendered their arsenals to the rebels."
                    1. Professor
                      26 May 2014 12: 04
                      +1
                      Remove from the parking brake or do not meddle in other people's conversations.
                      Quote: jagdpanzer
                      here somewhere there was an article with a video where the huge stacks of ATGMs they have with the bassoons and other things, where is this interesting from them?

                      To which I replied: "From the valiant warriors of Assad who surrendered their arsenals to the rebels." Do you understand? Bassoons from the valiant warriors of Assad !!! fool
                      1. AlexAl
                        AlexAl 26 May 2014 12: 19
                        0
                        "They have ATGMs with Fagots and other things."

                        TOW is this not an ATGM? This article discusses TOW supplies. And you generally declare: "From the valiant warriors of Assad who surrendered their arsenals to the rebels" - from which it follows that Assad also surrendered TOW according to you.
                        As for the parking brake - do not get excited - you have probably been hot there. In your private conversations, I never interfered and do not intend to - I give my word, and here the public forum after all.
                      2. Professor
                        26 May 2014 12: 24
                        0
                        That's it, I'll go kill myself on the jaw of a camel. wassat
                      3. pensioner
                        pensioner 26 May 2014 14: 20
                        +5
                        Quote: Professor
                        That's it, I'll go kill myself on the jaw of a camel.

                        Do not fool only uv. Professor! And then I went for paint and stencil. Draw a star on a camel ... repeat
              2. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 26 May 2014 12: 36
                +1
                Quote: Professor

                Your words? So Tou from Obama, Bassoons from Assad.

                Professor, the time will come and both will shoot at your tanks. And those who are fighting against Assad today will shoot.
                Will we think about the future or will we continue to dream of a cloudless present?
                1. Professor
                  26 May 2014 12: 43
                  0
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Professor, the time will come and both will shoot at your tanks. And those who are fighting against Assad today will shoot.
                  Will we think about the future or will we continue to dream of a cloudless present?

                  Israel does not supply weapons to the rebels.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 26 May 2014 14: 09
                    +1
                    Quote: Professor
                    Israel does not supply weapons to the rebels.

                    Allies in the person of the United States deliver. Gib-Gib-URA great and far-sighted America fellow
                2. IFreedman
                  IFreedman 26 May 2014 13: 07
                  -3
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Quote: Professor

                  Your words? So Tou from Obama, Bassoons from Assad.

                  Professor, the time will come and both will shoot at your tanks.

                  Well, let them try ...
  • Strashila
    Strashila 26 May 2014 10: 25
    +10
    I very much doubt that the Americans deliver freshly to Syria, and indeed their puppets.
    Ammunition expires ... in Russia they are disposed of, in the United States they are sent to a small regional war ... to Iraq, Afghanistan or as humanitarian aid to Syria.
    In Russia, hundreds of units of military equipment are annually cut ... thousands of tons of ammunition are destroyed ...
    Bring the cancellation equipment to the training ground, but as it should be in working condition, the tank ... art installation ... mortar ... form a full-time combat unit on the defensive ... make a field of ammunition in a couple of kilometers ...
    They drove the army unit ... let them burrow into the ground, build in as it should be in the war.
    Turned around .... and proceeded, hollow around the clock in any weather hopeless ... from shot at zero in warehouses, rotation ... of troops.
    On the opposite side of the landfill ... drive sappers to check the area for safety ...
    Expand another connection ... and hammer on previously built fortifications and equipment deployed from the opposite side.
    Well buried and masked ... gingerbread, quickly found and destroyed ... caramel.
    Real competitions in real conditions ... the most interesting costs are cheap ... everything has been written off for scrap.
    And so all year round ... so that a part of the crescent in the field was ... a week of rest and debriefing, a week of preparation and again in the field ... a week ... we burrow from the march ... and then a week of shooting ... and with good conscience to the place of basing ... and so on in a circle.
    In warehouses, for twenty years, there will be enough equipment and ammunition for such trainings ... and the place for a new one will be freed up.
    Well, with regular weapons, as expected ... once a month ... three rounds.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 26 May 2014 11: 08
      +3
      Quote: Strashila
      And so all year round ... so that part of the crescent in the field is ...

      Our military men are, oh, how they are afraid of "no matter what happens," but during firing it happens regularly and it is easier for them not to shoot at all than to take risks. To be honest, I understand them, I myself have witnessed more than once how a "fighter" can add gray hair to an officer ...
      1. Massik
        Massik 26 May 2014 17: 45
        +1
        With a cry of UAAAA, a soldier runs forward stammers, falls and plants a grenade from an RPG 10 meters in front of him ....
  • Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 26 May 2014 11: 07
    0
    Give them anything http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqZtX3PNTqU
  • padded jacket
    padded jacket 26 May 2014 12: 24
    0
    here somewhere there was an article with a video where the huge stacks of ATGMs they have with the bassoons and other things, where is this interesting from them?

    I saw this photo, it seems to me that the banduks captured the warehouse of the landfill, where the shot containers from the anti-tank systems were stored.
    1. Professor
      26 May 2014 12: 41
      -1
      Quote: quilted jacket
      I saw this photo, it seems to me that the banduks captured the warehouse of the landfill, where the shot containers from the anti-tank systems were stored.

      Spread a video with this arsenal. There they are in the drawers.
  • dzau
    dzau 26 May 2014 12: 38
    0
    If TOW comes up in Syria, needles with cornets may come up in Iraq and Afghanistan.
  • padded jacket
    padded jacket 26 May 2014 12: 46
    -1
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: quilted jacket
    I saw this photo, it seems to me that the banduks captured the warehouse of the landfill, where the shot containers from the anti-tank systems were stored.

    Spread a video with this arsenal. There they are in the drawers.


    So we are talking about different photos.
  • Prutkov
    Prutkov 26 May 2014 13: 02
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Professor, the time will come and both will shoot at your tanks. And those who are fighting against Assad today will shoot.
    Will we think about the future or will we continue to dream of a cloudless present?

    Israel does not supply weapons to the rebels.

    No one argues. Talking about the same warriors of Allah can and most likely will deliver all and almost all of these weapons (and TOUs and Bassoons) to Israel. But only in a different, not transport, condition. And as for me, it’s better to let Assad look after his missiles in his warehouses, which everyone will use.
    1. Professor
      26 May 2014 13: 39
      0
      Quote: Rods
      No one argues. Talking about the same warriors of Allah can and most likely will deliver all and almost all of these weapons (and TOUs and Bassoons) to Israel. But only in a different, not transport, condition. And as for me, it’s better to let Assad look after his missiles in his warehouses, which everyone will use.

      The "warriors of Allah" have never lacked weapons. The same Assad armed Hezbollah with Cornets, for example.
      1. Prutkov
        Prutkov 26 May 2014 14: 30
        0
        Now they will also have TOU, for a change. It remains to wait for the Stingers.
  • padded jacket
    padded jacket 26 May 2014 14: 42
    -1
    Quote: Professor

    Israel does not supply weapons to the rebels.


    The issue is debatable: it treats bandits from Syria and nationalists from Ukraine.
    But weapons may not be supplied, they may simply allocate money for the war, although they may also transfer weapons captured in 1967,1973, 1982, XNUMX and other years.
    How many weapons were seized on ships sailing to Lebanon and Gaza for example?
    Where is it?
    1. Professor
      26 May 2014 14: 50
      0
      Quote: quilted jacket
      The issue is debatable: it treats bandits from Syria and nationalists from Ukraine.

      The question is undeniable. Neither one was put on the international wanted list and the maximum can only be suspects.

      How many weapons were seized on ships sailing to Lebanon and Gaza for example?
      Where is it?

      In the warehouses of Tsahal.
  • padded jacket
    padded jacket 26 May 2014 15: 25
    0
    Quote: Professor

    The question is undeniable. Neither one was put on the international wanted list and the maximum can only be suspects.

    In the warehouses of Tsahal.


    Well then, a large half of the world did not recognize Hezbollah as terrorists (including Russia) and it is possible to supply weapons to it.
    And exactly in the warehouses of the Tsahal? How can I see?
    1. Professor
      26 May 2014 15: 45
      0
      Quote: quilted jacket
      Well then, a large half of the world did not recognize Hezbollah as terrorists (including Russia) and it is possible to supply weapons to it.
      And exactly in the warehouses of the Tsahal? How can I see?

      1. Feel free to click "Reply" directly UNDER comment.
      2. Chechen terrorists even fewer countries recognized as terrorists. Let's start supplying them with weapons?
      3. It is forbidden to take pictures in warehouses
  • padded jacket
    padded jacket 26 May 2014 16: 03
    +1
    Quote: Professor


    2. Chechen terrorists even fewer countries recognized as terrorists. Let's start supplying them with weapons?
    3. It is forbidden to take pictures in warehouses


    That is the difference in Chechnya by terrorists and in Lebanon by the people's liberation movement. laughing
    That is, the weapon is not known there or not?
    Maybe they have long been bandits in Syria fighting?
    1. Professor
      26 May 2014 16: 08
      -2
      1. Feel free to click "Reply" directly BELOW the comment.
      Quote: quilted jacket
      Maybe they have long been bandits in Syria fighting?

      So far no evidence has been submitted ...
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 26 May 2014 16: 15
        +1
        And what kind of confirmation should there be?
        Under the inscription "Made in USSR" is it beautifully written "Paid by Israel"?
        1. Professor
          26 May 2014 16: 19
          0
          Quote: quilted jacket
          And what kind of confirmation should there be?
          Under the inscription "Made in USSR" is it beautifully written "Paid by Israel"?

          Elementary. When attacking an Israeli patrol, a machine gun was recaptured from hezbalons. They struck by numbers and it turned out that Israel had placed him in check before the revolution ... Now it’s clear how he got to the Hezbalons
          Or here's another. The "volunteers" in Ukarin were recaptured by Polish-made MANPADS, which were delivered to Georgia and captured on 8.8.8. "peacemakers" ...
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 26 May 2014 16: 49
            -1
            1) That is, if the Syrians capture a machine gun, for example, a PC and it says it will be done in Romania, Bulgaria, etc. is that what they supplied, NATO countries?

            2) If they recaptured a machine gun that was delivered from Israel to Iran and other countries, it says IMI (Israel Military Industries)
            By the number you can only determine where it was delivered for the first time officially. Maybe later Iran figuratively sold it to Honduras and from there it got to Hezbollah.
            1. Professor
              26 May 2014 16: 53
              +1
              1. You understand me perfectly. By serial numbers, you can trace the path of the weapon.
              2. Did I say that the machine gun was Israeli-made?
  • Massik
    Massik 26 May 2014 17: 57
    0
    What troubles, however, in Russia, with the protection of RAV warehouses, things are not in the best condition until the fried rooster pecks ...
  • padded jacket
    padded jacket 26 May 2014 18: 31
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    1. You understand me perfectly. By serial numbers, you can trace the path of the weapon.
    2. Did I say that the machine gun was Israeli-made?


    !) Only if the weapon was sold officially and there are sales agreements and if the countries that transferred it, sold would they want to provide documents.
    2) Well, Israel, too, perfectly traded with Iran under the Shah.
  • zinander
    zinander 26 May 2014 22: 16
    -1
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: quilted jacket
    And what kind of confirmation should there be?
    Under the inscription "Made in USSR" is it beautifully written "Paid by Israel"?

    Elementary. When attacking an Israeli patrol, a machine gun was recaptured from hezbalons. They struck by numbers and it turned out that Israel had placed him in check before the revolution ... Now it’s clear how he got to the Hezbalons
    Or here's another. The "volunteers" in Ukarin were recaptured by Polish-made MANPADS, which were delivered to Georgia and captured on 8.8.8. "peacemakers" ...
    We are gussian, do not deceive our hi