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Rosoboronexport begins supplying Mi-28NE to its foreign partners

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As reported on the site Rosteh, Rosoboronexport announced the beginning of the supply of Mi-28HE helicopters to foreign partners. This became known during the HeliRussia-2014 exhibition, where the Russian state special exporter presented combat helicopters: Mi-171Sh, Mi-35М, Mi-28HE, Ka-52, as well as a radar patrol vehicle Ka-31.




The announcement of the beginning of deliveries of a new combat helicopter with a complex of onboard radio-electronic equipment has become a feature of the event. The experts also noted that good training prospects for foreigners are another combat training helicopter, created on the basis of the Mi-28НЭ, having dual control and successfully solving a complex of combat missions.

According to Vladislav Kuzmichev, who represents the Rosoboronexport delegation at the exhibition, today most of the countries have their own helicopter fleet. Meanwhile, only a few states are capable of developing and producing helicopters that meet modern requirements. Russia among them occupies one of the leading places.
Moreover, the increase in deliveries is happening, both due to the deepening of work with regular partners, and through the acquisition of new customers. Among the promising markets, Kuzmichev named the states of Southeast Asia and the Middle East.

For many years, Russia has been one of the main suppliers of helicopter technology to the world market. Last year alone, Rosoboroexport exported more than 140 Mi-17 and Mi-35-type combat vehicles to foreign partners, which is 50 percent more than it was in 2012 year. In the current year it is planned to maintain the achieved supply volumes.
During the exhibition HeliRussia-2014, representatives of Rosoboronexport also held several meetings with their traditional and prospective foreign partners.

It is worth noting that the VII International Exhibition of the helicopter industry has become one of the largest in the world, where Russia showed the participants and guests of the cabin the increased capabilities of the national defense-industrial complex in the development and production of helicopters.
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  1. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 24 May 2014 07: 10
    +3
    Have you already set yourself enough? Oh, politics. negative
    1. clidon
      clidon 24 May 2014 09: 06
      +29
      To supply yourself, you must first earn money. At the same time, the Mi-28 is a high-tech product, and not another batch of oil and gas.
      Therefore, let them buy as much as possible. It will be necessary - they will expand production.
      1. max702
        max702 24 May 2014 09: 55
        +1
        Yeah, will you expand it, right now .. And can you find skilled workers? Yes, install the same machine, debug, configure .. how long will it take? Right years! And the enemy is at the door!
        1. clidon
          clidon 24 May 2014 10: 11
          +6
          If there is money, then it is much easier to expand finished production than to build from scratch.
          Calm down in the coming years of a major war is not planned. Therefore, you need to earn money to build as many helicopters as you need.
          And we will refuse to Iraqis or other clients and here we will definitely lose. And there will be power, but no money.
          1. sergey261180
            sergey261180 24 May 2014 10: 55
            0
            Quote: clidon
            Calm down in the coming years of a major war is not planned.

            Come on! Ukraine as if not hinting?
            1. clidon
              clidon 24 May 2014 11: 09
              +5
              That's it. It is precisely Ukraine that hints that they are talking more (and even more carefully) than at least doing something.
              1. crazyrom
                crazyrom 25 May 2014 02: 29
                +1
                Anyone who buys our equipment and equipment falls out of favor with our brags (Americans) and automatically becomes our ally. So it won't get any worse.
            2. Nasty pirate
              Nasty pirate 24 May 2014 12: 24
              +4
              Come on! Ukraine as if not hinting?

              For Ukraine, more than 1/10 of our air forces will be enough.
            3. dmitrij.blyuz
              dmitrij.blyuz 25 May 2014 19: 38
              0
              We’re negative for the guy? He’s right. We’ll have to fight with the right-handed guys.
        2. avg
          avg 24 May 2014 11: 08
          +3
          Yeah, will you expand it, right now .. And can you find skilled workers? Yes, install the same machine, debug, configure .. how long will it take? Right years! And the enemy is at the door!

          We had to expand production and when the enemy was already crossing the threshold, and therefore we need to work, and not to nod at complexity. The lack of specialists is being addressed comprehensively. The main methods are increasing labor productivity and training. At the state level, we are quite capable of attracting specialists from the CIS and beyond. For example, there is a collective letter of employees of the Tashkent aircraft plant with a request for employment. Santel relocates the families of his Ukrainian workers, who have worked on a rotational basis for all these years, etc.
          1. rereture
            rereture 24 May 2014 14: 03
            +3
            Or, for example, teaching a profession right at the factory under the supervision of a master, let alone advertising an engine of progress, you need to advertise such jobs.
        3. alpenstock
          alpenstock 24 May 2014 14: 33
          0
          where did everyone go then? migrated?
      2. Lesorub
        Lesorub 24 May 2014 10: 34
        +2
        YES TO SELL Mi 28 is necessary, but really need to be sold to Partners !!! (And then we are ready to sell to Iraq - Where the States will directly familiarize themselves and fly around our equipment)!
        1. clidon
          clidon 24 May 2014 11: 12
          +9
          And what about the Mi-28 so secret and unflown, interesting for the United States? The car (and even in the export version) has been spinning in salons for about 7 years, it carries anyone and whatever. Separate nodes (such as jamming stations, or weapon control units) may be secret, but on the export version, everything is very open and accessible without supplies.
    2. Anton Gavrilov
      Anton Gavrilov 24 May 2014 09: 43
      +3
      We supply to ourselves, and we will supply for a long time, specifically these units as far as I remember there will be 250 pieces, but I can be mistaken.
    3. yushch
      yushch 24 May 2014 12: 31
      +4
      Here a huge role is played by the reserve for the future. The more reliable the image as a supplier, the more transactions. And to supply yourself in parallel, taking into account the elimination of operational jambs.
    4. VAF
      VAF 24 May 2014 13: 47
      +6
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Have you already set yourself enough?


      For the "solution" of a certain circle of possible-emerging "probed" is already normal .. not in excess, of course, but .. normal good



      so it is possible and necessary for export. winkAnd already Mi-28NM soldier
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 24 May 2014 17: 29
        0
        Where's their over-the-body radar? This is Mi-28N, they just have to have a ball over the screw. So it was originally conceived.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 24 May 2014 18: 34
          +2
          Quote: Basarev
          Where's their over-the-body radar? This is Mi-28N, they just have to have a ball over the screw. So it was originally conceived.

          to identify what is in the photo with real cars from the news is at least naive! you can complain to the admins! (although I share your opinion, there really is no "ball") laughing
          1. rudolff
            rudolff 24 May 2014 18: 52
            +2
            "Ball" will appear only on the Mi-28NM, and it is still in development.
        2. VAF
          VAF 24 May 2014 21: 40
          +2
          Quote: Basarev
          Where's their over-the-body radar? This is Mi-28N


          Due to the fact that there were problems with the "ball", then all Mi-28 and N, including, go without it wink
          not always "urya-statements" coincide with the possibilities.
          Therefore, the radar will be on the Mi-28NM, and the UB-ki already with a "ball"
          1. qx56v8
            qx56v8 24 May 2014 22: 05
            0
            And without a ball, he is not H ... that is, defective N. By the way 36 it's n a 37 Is it UBN?
    5. Su24
      Su24 26 May 2014 06: 13
      0
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Have you already set yourself enough? Oh, politics. negative


      ?????? how do you think military supplies are carried out?
  2. mig31
    mig31 24 May 2014 07: 10
    +4
    Just do not spray yourself, first staff yourself, then you can others ...
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 24 May 2014 07: 38
      +3
      Quote: mig31
      Just do not spray yourself, first staff yourself, then you can others ...

      It’s strange how you are not the first? It's time to upgrade ... laughing
      1. MBA78
        MBA78 24 May 2014 13: 43
        +2
        probably before they sell it for a year
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 24 May 2014 14: 01
      +4
      Quote: mig31
      Just do not spray yourself, first staff yourself, then you can others ...

      Their contracts do not cancel, do not move. So what claims to export ...
  3. mad
    mad 24 May 2014 07: 13
    +3
    And what about the engines, wrote that Motor Sich for Russia has sunk into oblivion?
    1. shinobi
      shinobi 24 May 2014 07: 33
      +6
      So they only engaged in assembly. 80% of the components came from the Russian Federation. The assembly was organized somewhere in the Urals. They will continue to cooperate, okay. No? Well, okay. Unpleasant, but not critical. The matter still went on to create a closed production cycle in Russia.
    2. mamont5
      mamont5 24 May 2014 07: 44
      +2
      Quote: mad
      And what about the engines, wrote that Motor Sich for Russia has sunk into oblivion?


      At the last exhibition, representatives of Motor Sich announced that they were not going to break off ties with Russia, and vice versa, they were going to increase the number of deliveries. After all, the manufacturer understands that Russia is the only chance for the life and work of their plant. Components are received from us, the goods are delivered to us - what a gap there may be. Then close immediately.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 May 2014 08: 46
      +4
      Quote: mad
      And what about the engines, wrote that Motor Sich for Russia has sunk into oblivion?

      the Americans will now redeem it and decontaminate it, and then it will surely sink into oblivion.
      1. mad
        mad 24 May 2014 11: 42
        0
        Quote: mamont5
        Components are received from us, the goods are delivered to us - what a gap there may be. Then close immediately.


        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        the Americans will now redeem it and decontaminate it, and then it will surely sink into oblivion.


        The first option sounds better. We are waiting for the development of events in Ukraine.
        1. 0255
          0255 24 May 2014 14: 35
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: mad
          And what about the engines, wrote that Motor Sich for Russia has sunk into oblivion?

          the Americans will now redeem it and decontaminate it, and then it will surely sink into oblivion.

          And they will receive Russian developments for free belay
      2. Basarev
        Basarev 24 May 2014 17: 31
        0
        It will be necessary to have time to save the documentation. The engine is a strategic part.
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 24 May 2014 18: 35
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: mad
        And what about the engines, wrote that Motor Sich for Russia has sunk into oblivion?

        the Americans will now redeem it and decontaminate it, and then it will surely sink into oblivion.

        100 pounds Sanya will be so ...
      4. Bayonet
        Bayonet 24 May 2014 21: 37
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        the Americans will now redeem it and decontaminate it, and then it will surely sink into oblivion.

        Well, remember and x ...... m!
  4. Alikovo
    Alikovo 24 May 2014 07: 15
    +1
    for the needs of the army, about 700 helicopters are needed, taking into account the area of ​​the country.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 24 May 2014 07: 32
      +8
      Quote: Alikovo
      for the needs of the army, about 700 helicopters are needed, taking into account the area of ​​the country.

      I thought the number of aircraft is calculated on the basis of tasks, and not in terms of the area of ​​the country. what
      1. max702
        max702 24 May 2014 10: 00
        +4
        Yeah, out of tasks .. But only then for some reason do the outposts hold out for several days without air support, and they show heroism in their mouths, so why then there aren't many helicopters, they are always few!
        1. clidon
          clidon 24 May 2014 10: 15
          +8
          There is such a simple concept - a budget. Anything can be assumed, but if it has money for 400 helicopters, then you will have 400 helicopters. Or someone needs to take this money. Well, for example, missile or air defense. Well, or skew the budget towards "war" even more.
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 24 May 2014 17: 38
            -2
            The budget should always be maximally militarized, especially ours. For more than a thousand years they have been looking at our Russian wealth with poorly concealed envy. And they are constantly trying to take these gifts away, and when it fails, they complain to their owners with whining and miserable howling.
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 24 May 2014 18: 37
          +2
          Quote: max702
          Yeah, out of tasks .. But only then for some reason do the outposts hold out for several days without air support, and they show heroism in their mouths, so why then there aren't many helicopters, they are always few!

          plus I can put only one unfortunately ...
  5. shinobi
    shinobi 24 May 2014 07: 28
    +2
    First of all, rearm the army!
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 24 May 2014 07: 43
      +7
      It's disgusting to read such a whining.
      To rearm your army you need a lot of money, to develop new weapons systems as well.
      Export allows our enterprises to receive additional orders, thereby developing their production, conducting research and development. Better to buy equipment from us than from Americans and geyrops.
      Part of the cp-received from the export of these turntables, in the form of taxes, will go to the federal budget.
      Thus, we have additional opportunities for the rearmament of our army.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 May 2014 08: 47
        +1
        Quote: wanderer_032
        To rearm your army you need a lot of money to develop new weapons systems

        And that Russia has no money?
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 24 May 2014 09: 35
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And that Russia has no money?


          Well, yesterday Putin said that Ukraine would return the money to us in debt, that they will return it and we will buy rotorcraft laughing
        2. Russ69
          Russ69 24 May 2014 14: 04
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And that Russia has no money?

          This does not mean that you need to refuse additional funds ...
        3. Bayonet
          Bayonet 24 May 2014 21: 47
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And that Russia has no money?

          Apparently it will not work and "eat from the belly" and a thousand helicopters!
        4. clidon
          clidon 24 May 2014 22: 19
          +1
          You speak as if we have a lot of money. Here in the fall (before the beginning of Crimea, etc.) there was only talk about "where to find 2020 trillion rubles by 5 in order to close the hole in the budget." And this is provided that the oil price will not be lower than $ 95 per barrel (that is, the crisis will recede).
      2. max702
        max702 24 May 2014 10: 07
        +2
        Shake the oligarchs and that's enough, money in the country at least pour in, in the suburbs of tens of thousands of mansions and everyone is like MI28! The money was found on them! Yes, and it’s under construction, it means there is denyuzhka, and it’s already breathing in the face, and we’ll know who the weapon we are supplying is right here. You’ll sit in the trenches and ask for the turntables in support, but they’ll tell you that we’ll finish supplying the Papuans with credit then we'll send you ..
        1. clidon
          clidon 24 May 2014 10: 16
          +2
          To begin with, change the system, arrange a revolution ... The truth is, do not forget that we do not respect the revolution now.
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 24 May 2014 18: 38
        +1
        are we only due to export army contain ??? negative
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 24 May 2014 09: 02
      +3
      Well, already armed quite a lot of the army, delivered more 70 helicopters from 97 ordered before 2015 year, of this type.

      Now the military wants to buy Mi-28NM and UB. The first to work, the second to test.
  6. storm wind
    storm wind 24 May 2014 07: 35
    +4
    I hope for export abroad * truncated * versions will go. And then now a partner, but tomorrow the enemy. And you need to saturate your army. I would like to believe that the proceeds from the sale of helicopters in the future will go to the development of our own production, and not to the pockets of officials, although where unfortunately without it ..
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 24 May 2014 18: 42
      +1
      Quote: Storm Wind
      I hope for export abroad * truncated * versions will go.

      what is there to cut back in the turntables? rotor screw? many do avionics and, sadly, better than ours sometimes, we lag behind in the element base, the suspension nodes can modify them ourselves .. what is there to cut? request a question without bullying, I just want to know ...
  7. volksib13
    volksib13 24 May 2014 07: 39
    +3
    We can when we want, and where we want! Export of defense industry products is an indicator of the country's development. Demonstration of technologies, strengthening of international authority, economic ties. High added value.
  8. Arh
    Arh 24 May 2014 07: 42
    +2
    We will press west with the Americans !!! tongue wassat laughing bully
    1. 0255
      0255 24 May 2014 14: 42
      +1
      Countries that are suited to the states will still fly on the AN-64 Apaches, and those that are not acceptable to the states in Russian or Chinese machines. So the Chinese will have to be crowded
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 24 May 2014 17: 51
        +1
        Let us squeeze the Chinese as well. After all, specifically in matters of aviation engines, we have an absolute advantage over China. And in general - I have already said the proverb - "Friendship is friendship, and tobacco apart." So my opinion is that China is certainly our friend and comrade ... But not an inch! And no hegemony of the yuan and the Chinese military junk in the markets, which rightfully belong to us!
  9. Vlad Gore
    Vlad Gore 24 May 2014 08: 03
    +2
    Everyone wants Russian weapons. Clear business. The people are always victorious, they know how to make invincible weapons. good
  10. Velesovich
    Velesovich 24 May 2014 08: 03
    +5
    And go to your army, do not worry so) There is one nuance here. For 15 years we have not purchased anything for our troops, and therefore today we need to re-equip literally everything and everyone. And if you buy too much equipment in each direction, you can tear yourself up. Today, and so the army receives so many new weapons that 7-8 years ago they would laugh at someone who could have hinted at such rearmament.
  11. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 24 May 2014 08: 14
    0
    I would like to believe our deliveries abroad will not affect the rearmament of the army with new helicopters!
  12. sv68
    sv68 24 May 2014 08: 29
    +1
    kindnesses, damn it ... we’ve already set ourselves up for three hundred years in advance, so it’s visible. There is money for the purchase and delivery of the native army and then to the foreign region, please send your air forces. It’s necessary to be priority and not as it is now, all through w-pu
  13. andrey778
    andrey778 24 May 2014 08: 39
    0
    a good helicopter for the 2000s, you need to trade correctly; for yourself, you need to think about a new car of the 21st Century.
  14. marder4
    marder4 24 May 2014 09: 28
    +1
    I agree that we need to sell to foreign partners, but our own army should still be in priority positions ...
  15. Gvozdovsky
    Gvozdovsky 24 May 2014 09: 47
    +4
    Rosoboronexport is doing everything right: it is necessary to increase the number of helicopters produced, which will allow us to increase our production capacity and reduce the cost of manufacturing the final product. This means that our army will receive a better quality (in terms of fine-tuning any shortcomings of R&D) and cheaper helicopter. The main thing is that it should not be the same as with Pagasyan's "shop", which raked under itself almost the entire aviation industry, "holding down" the rest of the design bureau (like the MIG). And when there is no competition, the management of the monopolist firm starts to get fat and go overboard. am
    1. 52
      52 24 May 2014 15: 03
      0
      You are right, colleague! And the most interesting thing is that Poganetssyan using old practices and a half-born project, earns not weak grannies. am
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 24 May 2014 18: 45
        +2
        Quote: 52gim
        You are right, colleague! And the most interesting thing is that Poganetssyan using old practices and a half-born project, earns not weak grannies. am

        I will not say for Poghosyan, but who was born "dead"? well, for myself, I want to know ...
    2. Basarev
      Basarev 24 May 2014 17: 56
      0
      Many people swear by the Soviet military monopolies, but they forget that because the USSR did the best weapon in the world, there was fierce competition between different design bureaus.
  16. jovanni
    jovanni 24 May 2014 10: 11
    0
    Good! And grandmas are needed, and an analysis of combat use. To do it yourself.
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 24 May 2014 11: 03
      +1
      Quote: Jovanni
      Good! And grandmas are needed, and an analysis of combat use. To do it yourself.

      Is there nowhere to apply for yourself?
  17. Giant thought
    Giant thought 24 May 2014 10: 58
    +1
    Helicopters need to be sold, like other military equipment, because then it needs to be serviced, repaired, and this again is our income.
  18. Barakuda
    Barakuda 24 May 2014 11: 05
    +1
    Selling is great. So you also need to teach pilots and technicians, + komplektuha-spare parts and accessories, etc. And these are grandmas for a considerable country ..
  19. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 24 May 2014 13: 01
    +2
    A good long-term perspective for the industry ... the complexes then require warranty and post-warranty service ... various modernization programs are possible ... supply of components and ammunition for weapons.
  20. Cortes
    Cortes 24 May 2014 13: 49
    0
    It should be like with Iskander. For export, the same as in the Russian army, but worse..with one missile. Eh did not think that they would start selling new items to "partners" so early.
  21. Russ69
    Russ69 24 May 2014 14: 39
    +2
    By the way, the other day the Kazan Helicopter Plant (KVZ), released the jubilee 7500th Mi-8/17 family helicopter. The Mi-8MTV-5 military transport will be handed over under the contract to the Russian Air Force.
  22. sven93
    sven93 24 May 2014 15: 10
    0
    ... and we agreed with the "motor sich" ... or they were going to install their engines that were not worked out ...
  23. Cristall
    Cristall 24 May 2014 16: 23
    +1
    MS is not going to "throw" anyone, they have worked for 23 years and work no matter what. In addition, Boguslaev is going to apparently transfer these 30% (the share of Russian orders in the total production of MCs) to the Russian Federation in order to reassure Russian consumers.
    I am more than sure that Ukrainian engines are competitive with Russian in price and quality performance. It is more likely that this component (cheaper, more familiar, quality suits) and suits the Russian Federation.
    Recently I saw a Russian article that the Russian Federation itself spins on engines, buys 800 thousand each, and in the finished product its price is already 1.2 million (this does not include the setting and additional sets). Business is business. I am sure that there are companies that are intermediaries in the engine market. The products are expensive, the fat is very significant.
    If they were more expensive, would the Russian Federation buy only out of love for Ukrainians?
  24. Max_Damage
    Max_Damage 24 May 2014 16: 44
    0
    that week drove around Torzhok. seen in the sky mi8, mi35 and mi28
  25. Basarev
    Basarev 24 May 2014 18: 06
    0
    Mi-35 is an export version of Mi-24. Perhaps you saw the Mi-35M?
  26. Max_Damage
    Max_Damage 24 May 2014 20: 24
    0
    Well, his wheels were not removed. mi 24 wheels are removed, and this one flew with wheels
  27. propolsky
    propolsky 24 May 2014 20: 25
    0
    In small batches, the sale is justified: additional tests in different climatic conditions, the conquest of part of the market, the ability to influence the policies of these states. Let them fly!
  28. pvv113
    pvv113 24 May 2014 22: 41
    +5
    For many years, Russia has been one of the main suppliers of helicopter technology to the world market.
    The great authority of Russia on the international arms markets is remarkable. But we must not forget about the replenishment and updating of our own park.