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The military aspect of the rapprochement of Russia and China

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The military aspect of the rapprochement of Russia and ChinaThe visit of Vladimir Putin to China attracted attention mainly by its economic side - the signing of a number of agreements that open up a new stage of economic cooperation between our countries (these are indeed strategically important agreements that ensure our cooperation for decades to come). Meanwhile, in the shadow of gas contracts, an equally important side of the rapprochement between Russia and China remained. And it will have an impact on the entire world politics in no way less than the economic aspect of Russian-Chinese relations.


By the visit of the Russian president, the beginning of the third large-scale joint naval exercises called “Sea interaction 2014” was timed to coincide. Their active phase will run from 22 to May 25. Nevertheless, in order to emphasize the multifaceted nature of Russian-Chinese cooperation, Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping gave these exercises a formal start. In the language of world (and especially Eastern) diplomacy, such a step unambiguously hints at the common interests of Russia and China in the field of regional and global security.

Recall that the very first exercises “Maritime Interaction 2012” were an unpleasant surprise for the United States and its closest military ally in the region - Japan. Despite the fact that the exercises are not officially directed against any particular country, the tasks worked out in their course leave no doubt as to who exactly Russia and China consider as the common probable adversary. In the world there are not many countries possessing at sea, besides powerful surface and submarine forces, there is also a deck aviation. And during the exercises, joint actions are worked out precisely against such an adversary.

In current Pacific exercises fleet will take part the guards missile cruiser Varyag, the large anti-submarine ship Admiral Panteleev, the large landing ship Admiral Nevelskaya, the destroyer Bystry, the tanker Ilim, and the sea tugboat Kalar. To manage the grouping of ships of the two countries at the naval base of Usun, a joint headquarters began work. In fact, a contact group has been operating in China for several years, which is responsible for the interaction of the naval forces of Russia and China. It was created so that Russian warships could replenish supplies and be serviced at Chinese ports and bases, maintain communication and exchange data with the forces of the Chinese fleet. The headquarters of the current exercises are deployed at its base. But already for the tasks of managing a united group, when solving combat training tasks. That is, in fact, it is not just about one-time, albeit regular, events. It is about preparing the command and control structures of the armed forces for joint action, with an eye to the long term. At the time of these exercises, the captain of the 1st rank Sergey Sinko took the post of deputy chief of the “headquarters of the united leadership”.

The common tasks at sea and the common interests in the world between Russia and China should be described separately.

At the moment, both Russia and China are facing very active steps by the United States and its allies, aimed at curbing the growth of alternative centers of economic and political influence alternative to the West.

In the case of Russia, attempts are being made to discredit the gradually emerging positive image of our country. This image consists of a fair view of international problems and the protection of traditional values ​​in domestic politics. Recently, it was Russia that inflicted several crushing informational blows on the basics of Western domination in the world. The unyielding and consistent position in the Syrian conflict caused the whole world to doubt the good goals of the West on the world stage, its honesty, and most importantly its omnipotence and the continued success of its efforts. History with Edward Snowden shook the myth of the freedom of Western societies. Consistent protection of the rights of the traditional family and marriage causes sympathy among normal residents of Western countries who are faced with the aggressive imposition of unconventional morality and lifestyle by their governments. Finally, the Olympiad held in our country showed the whole world that open and benevolent people live in Russia, who should not be afraid or taught “to live right”. All this seriously undermined the very basis of Western moral superiority over the rest of the world, which until recently served to justify its interference in the internal affairs of other countries and societies.

The positive image of Russia and an active position in international affairs work on our own integration processes, alternative to Western ones and involving neighboring and distant countries in our economic and political sphere of attraction. These efforts by Russia undermine the system of global domination of the United States and the West. For them, it is vital to stop these processes through the economic and political isolation of Russia. However, this cannot be done without destroying the emerging image of our country. Just as the start of active military pressure (not even the use, but the threat of the use of force) is impossible without a sufficiently weighty justification of these steps.

As an instrument to discredit Russia, the conflict in the territory of the former Ukraine, which has been skillfully warmed up and fired up, now serves. The United States and its European satellites are very cynically betting that Russia cannot stand aside from the conflict provoked in its artificially rejected part. The calculation is made on the hasty and ill-conceived reaction of Russia. However, at the moment, the entire information flow, creating an image of Russia as an aggressive country, representing a danger to its neighbors, has a void of real facts. Virtually any detail of anti-Russian propaganda in the West does not stand up to criticism or banal fact-finding available even to the average person. So far we manage to avoid the predicted reaction, which in the future will lead to the same informational failure of the western propaganda machine as it suffered in the Syrian conflict, which has faded into the shadow of the latest events.

However, this does not mean that the West will give up the struggle and calmly admit its defeat. In fact, we have already found ourselves in a situation of a new cold war - a long and comprehensive confrontation with the West. And in this confrontation we need allies. The allies are not only informational and not only capable of hindering the economic isolation of Russia. Since the confrontation will be comprehensive - its military component will be of increasing importance. And we will have to respond to the military pressure of the West with our response pressure. And our allies should have not only their own military potential, but also sufficient motivation to build a common military security environment with us. Here, closer ties with China and a common enemy are pushing us closer to China. The foreign policy moves of Russia and China have long been consistent. And to seek closer military cooperation, both us and China are being forced by objective circumstances in the face of the growing efforts of the West to contain both powers.

Against China, the United States is taking not such openly hostile steps as against Russia. However, these steps are no less unfriendly and no less dangerous. The United States is trying to destabilize the situation in those countries on which raw materials flow into China and which play a key role in the foreign trade of the Middle Kingdom. First of all, we are talking about Pakistan and Myanmar. The United States also actively supports the danger of military conflicts in the region, for example, constantly provoking North Korea. The United States is no less actively encouraged by countries that have territorial disputes with China (Japan, Vietnam and South Korea). The Americans are well aware that they are intruding into the sphere of vital interests and the strategic security of China, which has a critical vulnerability to the reliability of its trade routes. We wrote in detail that the US is seriously considering the possibility of a naval blockade of China (naturally, justified by any military conflict in the region). Therefore, for China, as well as for us, an ally with a significant military potential is necessary. And Russia, moreover, is able to compensate for the blockade of China in other areas, becoming both a reliable supplier of raw materials and the most reliable of all possible transport corridors. Russia has the ability to connect the Eastern and Western hemispheres both by land and by sea - with the help of the Northern Sea Route. And the signed Russian-Chinese agreements speak precisely about this strategic mutual interest.

Militarily, it is no coincidence that active cooperation begins precisely with the joint actions of the fleet of Russia and China. It is quite difficult for China alone to ensure the safety of sea transport routes. It is quite difficult for Russia alone to exert military pressure on the US in the Pacific. In addition, it is difficult for us to transfer our military threat closer to the territory of the United States, because, unlike the Americans, we do not have a developed system of remote military bases. And here, China, which has extensive economic ties in Latin America, provides us with its inconspicuous but invaluable diplomatic assistance.

Last fall, during the exercises of the Russian strategic nuclear forces, two Tu-160 missile carriers, as well as the forces of the submarine fleet of Russia, visited the sky and waters of the Gulf of Mexico with a “friendly visit”. At the same time, refueling and temporary basing of the Tu-160 took place in Venezuela and Nicaragua. By the way, in Nicaragua, China and Russia are planning to build the facilities of a new transoceanic channel, which will become an alternative to Panama. For China, it will become a strategic artery requiring security and the continued presence of the Chinese Navy. And it is not at all accidental that the other day Sergey Lavrov announced the appearance of the points of material and technical service for our Navy in the countries of Latin America. If the United States considers it possible to strengthen its military presence on our borders, then they should not be surprised at the response presence of our military force at its borders. Since Russia is being confronted with the fact of a new cold war, we will have to recall the words of the outstanding commander-in-chief of the Soviet Navy, Sergey Georgievich Gorshkov, written in his fundamental work “Sea Power of the State”:

"The only type of Armed Forces that is able to actively support our policy in the cold war of peacetime is the fleet."
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  1. Giant thought
    Giant thought 24 May 2014 18: 15
    +22
    As a result of Russia's military rapprochement with China, both sides will win, especially with regard to the confrontation with the United States. Now the mattress covers will scratch their turnips, how to resist the combined forces of our two countries. The zealous mattresses will decrease in the Asia-Pacific region. We only benefit from this.
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    2. fimusito
      fimusito 24 May 2014 18: 26
      +24
      Our Western "partners" have already reached the notorious tolerance of the armies. So, Russia's best ally is all-destructive Western tolerance, which will drive whoever you want to the grave. China is not needed here either.
      Defense Ministers of Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands and Germany. More Spanish is not enough. What can they discuss among themselves there?
      1. armageddon
        armageddon 24 May 2014 18: 30
        +5
        Hmm ... They would have an AUTOMATIC machine on the neck and GO !!!
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      3. SlavaP
        SlavaP 24 May 2014 20: 00
        +6
        Yes to be him (under) a colonel soldier
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 25 May 2014 02: 50
          +1
          Quote: SlavaP
          Yes to be him (under) a colonel soldier


          What normal polkan will look at these snags? laughing
          1. SlavaP
            SlavaP 26 May 2014 16: 25
            0
            Come on, after the second glass a real colonel will take this line ... drinks
      4. Little Muck
        Little Muck 24 May 2014 20: 10
        +5
        Quote: fimusito
        What can they discuss among themselves there?

        They have something to fight, what to trade, everything is one.
        Profurs in one word.
        They fell on the back, legs spread apart, and let's fight.
        What to take from them, except for a certificate for the absence of venous diseases. laughing
      5. vvvvv
        vvvvv 24 May 2014 21: 01
        +3
        Our Western partners do not have sovereignty, which is why it is not so important for them who is appointed and by whom ... Just look at the well-known psychological portraits and it becomes clear that they are specially selected by the US structures. It is very easy to outline the necessary candidates - high ambitions, lack of personal creativity, courage and position, the presence of moral or other deviations. Such a person will always be controlled. In this case, concurrently, the minister may be trite someone shl ...
      6. Igool
        Igool 24 May 2014 21: 33
        +14
        They do not need to discuss. The psychology of their inferiority leads them on occasion. The answer to any question is clear in advance, an extremely negative attitude to everything Russian, which does not fall under US dependence. They will always be good for us that we feel bad
        1. gunter_laux
          gunter_laux 24 May 2014 21: 41
          +4
          Yes, normal girls !!! In their understanding. Now it’s clear why the birth rate collapsed !!! fellow
      7. northern
        northern 24 May 2014 21: 45
        +2
        Ninada Spaniard, 4% of the world's population died from her
      8. dzau
        dzau 24 May 2014 22: 31
        +1
        Quote: fimusito
        then they can discuss among themselves there?

        Beads.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 24 May 2014 22: 50
          +4
          Quote: dzau
          Beads.

          - in fact, the best friends of women are "Brullians" lol Maybe they are being discussed?
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      10. alone
        alone 24 May 2014 22: 45
        +2
        The Minister of Defense in many countries is a political figure. Everything related to military affairs is in the hands of the Joint Headquarters of the Armed Forces. Have you forgotten Serdyukov? It’s better to have a woman of the Moscow Region than a stool who sold and sold everything, was granted amnesty and wasn’t even arrested.
      11. 1812 1945
        1812 1945 24 May 2014 23: 45
        +3
        Quote: fimusito
        Our Western "partners" have already reached the notorious tolerance of the armies. So, Russia's best ally is all-destructive Western tolerance, which will drive whoever you want to the grave. China is not needed here either.
        Defense Ministers of Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands and Germany. More Spanish is not enough. What can they discuss among themselves there?

        In fact, these ladies no more influence the military strategic planning of NATO than the leaders of their countries influence the decisions of the American president and the British prime minister (more precisely, the queens ...) To flatter that European pederasts and military ministers in skirts will save Russia - having demoralized and collapsed NATO, it’s not worth it. Any rapprochement with China now is an unconditional geostrategic gain.
    3. marder4
      marder4 24 May 2014 18: 52
      +4
      and in the future, maybe not only of Russia and China, I won’t be surprised that someone else will join this alliance
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 24 May 2014 19: 22
        +8
        and in the future, maybe not only of Russia and China, I won’t be surprised that someone else will join this alliance

        IRAN - don’t go to the grandmother.)
    4. Sterlya
      Sterlya 24 May 2014 18: 57
      +10
      With the Chinese, Putin annoyed the "bullshit". Everything is done correctly. I support 100
    5. VNP1958PVN
      VNP1958PVN 25 May 2014 03: 11
      0
      At the current pace of construction of the Chinese defense, they may not need allies in the near future
    6. Blondy
      Blondy 25 May 2014 05: 59
      0
      As a result of the military rapprochement between Russia and China, both sides will win.
      Right now, a conflict is erupting between China and Vietnam over the disputed Paracel Islands, where China is unilaterally trying to start oil production. And what do we do - stand on the sidelines, or betray the Vietnamese, whom we want to reopen the base in Kamrani?
  2. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 24 May 2014 18: 17
    +2
    to get closer then of course it is necessary but with caution. India and Vietnam are no less loyal allies to us, and they have "graters" with China. How not to get in between
    1. armageddon
      armageddon 24 May 2014 18: 27
      +4
      Hmm ... Don’t be afraid !!! The threat from the WEST is much REAL !!!
      1. kocclissi
        kocclissi 24 May 2014 19: 25
        +1
        And in a big family, don’t click the tab! And everything will be cheeky cheeky .....
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  3. DanSabaka
    DanSabaka 24 May 2014 18: 18
    0
    As if China itself, having displaced US from Olympus, would not dominate the world ....
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 24 May 2014 18: 28
      +5
      Quote: DanSabaka
      As if China itself, having displaced US from Olympus, would not dominate the world ....

      in any case, China’s long-term policy is designed for this ... hi
    2. mamont5
      mamont5 24 May 2014 18: 40
      +3
      [quote = DanSabaka] As if China itself, having displaced US from Olympus, would not dominate the world .... [/ quote]

      This is still a long way off. In the meantime, they are our natural allies.

      quote = Ragnarek] to get closer then of course it is necessary but with caution. India and Vietnam are no less loyal allies to us, and they have "graters" with China. [/ Quote]

      There were loyal allies. Now, I don’t know? .. And the graters may be useful for us. The principle of "divide and rule" has not yet been canceled.
    3. Rost_a
      Rost_a 24 May 2014 18: 57
      0
      Well, not in the near future (up to 50 years), as it seems to me, but we'll see. There is little information for us ordinary citizens to give predictions.
    4. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 24 May 2014 21: 47
      +1
      Quote: DanSabaka
      As if China itself, having displaced US from Olympus, would not dominate the world ...

      For this to happen, he must, in military-technical terms, reach at least the level of the former Union (that is, Russia, at least). Otherwise, it will be a fight between the strong and the rich.
  4. Rus2012
    Rus2012 24 May 2014 18: 19
    +4
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    Exchange of ideas and implementation of the "long arm" against the AUG.
    And of course, at the same time - the distribution of forces and means for "probing the earth's surface" by national space means. Which also involves the counteraction of the spacecraft by third parties ... bully
    1. kocclissi
      kocclissi 24 May 2014 19: 22
      +1
      This is all yet to come!
  5. subbtin.725
    subbtin.725 24 May 2014 18: 22
    +15
    I live in the Far East myself. The Chinese are cunning, but you can be friends with them, especially against someone. Our "sworn friends" will come to their senses for a long time, well, that's their problem. Glory to Russia!
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 24 May 2014 18: 32
      +6
      Quote: subbtin.725
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      1. SlavaP
        SlavaP 24 May 2014 19: 58
        +11
        Oh sure. I already wrote once that although I live in England, by the nature of my service I communicate a lot and actively with the Chinese (in English, prada). They are really very different, but nevertheless their mentality is closer to ours, in the promise it is easy, a lot of common points - for example, the historical memory of the Second World War - they got from the Japanese no less than we from the Fritzes. It is very interesting to discuss the period of "ten thousand years ..." and what followed. My social circle is young people, but they know a lot from the words of their parents, and my conclusion is that in China they never really considered us enemies, even in the days of Damansky. And the Chinese girls are lovely, again just like ours, and you can chat and laugh, not like inflated peepy dolls from the locals.
      2. tehnoluks
        tehnoluks 25 May 2014 13: 58
        0
        ... everything is so ambiguous)))
  6. mig31
    mig31 24 May 2014 18: 27
    +2
    Of course, we only profit from this partnership, the main thing is not to believe in infallibility ...
  7. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 24 May 2014 18: 29
    +4
    A military-economic alliance with China - to be. soldier
  8. subbtin.725
    subbtin.725 24 May 2014 18: 32
    +7
    Quote: "By the way, in Nicaragua, China and Russia are planning to build facilities for a new transoceanic canal, which will be an alternative to the Panama Canal."
    But this already directly affects the interests of the Americans. It is nice, with this good thought, I’ll go to sleep.
  9. homosum20
    homosum20 24 May 2014 19: 34
    -6
    I wanted to know - and who was the commander? Then he changed his mind. Do you know who commanded (was the chief of staff of the exercises)? You will not find in our sources.
    Interestingly, the sale of the homeland (it does not matter to whom: the states, China) is a hobby or a profession?
    Manager actions are evaluated based on the results. Only by results. If the batons on one side of the exercises were 10 kg., And the other 15 kg., Then if the military commanded from 15 kg. - The manager of less weight needs to be dismissed. And do not reward the manager of the party with more weight. There is no merit.
    From our side there were more corbles, they were larger in size and power - but we fell under the Chinese. Undisputed - this is our big victory. With such victories, defeats are no longer necessary.
    1. homosum20
      homosum20 24 May 2014 21: 49
      -3
      A minus what? Found the Russian chief of staff for the exercise? Or my comments are "not in the standard"? Will a bullet in your forehead be okay? With such we will live to see this. Which are without brains. With the Ndrav.
      The Chinese teachings in which the narrow-eyed commanded our flotilla are political defeatism. Willingness to lie under the great China. And no contracts justify this. This is a whore, my friend. Yours, and those who consented to this.
      1. not main
        not main 25 May 2014 01: 53
        0
        Quote: homosum20
        With a lot of people.

        Excuse me from what adverb? I did not find such a word in Russian.
        1. homosum20
          homosum20 25 May 2014 16: 25
          0
          Read more. Russian literature.
          This is how the map of China at school looks. This is for those who like Russian-Chinese friendship. (It was already byd and ended in volleys of hail on teams of persistent, numerous, loving, Chinese friends)
      2. tehnoluks
        tehnoluks 25 May 2014 14: 05
        0
        homosum20 With regard to command - this is an accepted international practice. The side in whose zone and at whose invitation the teachings go is commanding.
        ps. But you farted loudly. minus!
      3. homosum20
        homosum20 25 May 2014 16: 18
        0
        This is how the map of China at school looks. This is for those who like Russian-Chinese friendship. (It was already byd and ended in volleys of hail on teams of persistent, numerous, loving, Chinese friends)
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 24 May 2014 22: 04
      +2
      Quote: homosum20
      From our side there were more corbles, they were larger in size and power - but we fell under the Chinese.

      Peter, you read the article inattentively.
      It is about preparing the command and control structures of the armed forces for joint action, with an eye to the long term. For the duration of these exercises, the captain of the 1 rank Sergey Sinko took the post of deputy chief of the “headquarters of the united leadership”.
      The rest of the names, for obvious reasons, are not named. I think the group was commanded alternately by our and Chinese admirals. Perhaps by stages (episodes) of exercises. The article says about the content of the teachings. So how did "we fall under the Chinese"?
      Quote: homosum20
      With such victories, defeats are no longer necessary.
      Empties - they, undoubtedly, are not needed by anyone, especially to us with the Chinese.
      1. homosum20
        homosum20 25 May 2014 16: 23
        0
        For what "understandable reasons"? Who understands? For those who understand that the Chinese are in command of the exercises and this is offensive to Russia? Kind you. The good cultural layer is 6 feet saturated. And also their family members.
    3. homosum20
      homosum20 25 May 2014 16: 17
      0
      This is how the map of China at school looks. This is for those who like Russian-Chinese friendship. (It was already byd and ended in volleys of hail on teams of persistent, numerous, loving, Chinese friends)
  10. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 24 May 2014 20: 15
    0
    If we hadn’t been honest, if we hadn’t had a nuclear arsenal, we would have already talked to them like real men, I’m not sure that they would have stood up for at least half a year, and they don’t want to talk to Europe if they went to us and then they dragged almost all of Europe , then you regretted and were afraid, you’re mine. You’re so China, of course, as an ally in the top three with minos, but as they say for not having a cook, the turn will be guessed! In serious wars, China has always been defeated, of course I don’t say what it was for three thousand years before our era, I’m the last 200 years, at the expense of the USSR, but something happened somewhere, and then our flyers were bigger and there is nothing to add. So we’ll hope we have our own pluses from cooperation!
  11. jovanni
    jovanni 24 May 2014 20: 26
    +2
    "If the United States considers it possible to strengthen its military presence on our borders, then it should not be surprised at the reciprocal presence of our military force on its borders."

    This presence must be ensured in sufficient quantities without paying attention to the degree of their surprise.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 24 May 2014 22: 11
      +2
      Quote: Jovanni
      This presence must be ensured in sufficient quantities without paying attention to the degree of their surprise.

      To do this, you need to build ships of the ocean zone and silent boats that pop up on the yoke of New York at the most inopportune moments for US Presidents.
  12. asar
    asar 24 May 2014 20: 39
    +2
    So far, this only pleases! How everything that happens will look in perspective - time will tell, but you need to "keep your ear"!
  13. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 24 May 2014 20: 39
    +2
    The United States was too keen on Ukraine celebrating the victory that a civil war broke out there .. And we covered the rear and now mom does not cry ..! The alliance with China is an attack on the dollar ..
    1. armageddon
      armageddon 24 May 2014 20: 48
      +2
      HM ... And the next step is mutual settlement: In rubles and yuan !!!
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  14. Leshka
    Leshka 24 May 2014 21: 52
    0
    it would be nice to have China as its ally
  15. shitovmg
    shitovmg 24 May 2014 22: 37
    0
    With SCS, no comments. No comments. At 68, Dubossary, full mobilization for Chekhov, father and mother, I had a helmet with SKS, and ... he gave me a guide, .... we had them 39x7,62 and Knew, .... to PPSh, Mosinka, there was little , Doha, there were a lot, on the river, they made bells ... After the Kursk Bulge, LA-7FM .... complete superiority in the air ... I will take the smoke for ours ... and hold on to the butt. WHEN HE warms the body, the one to whom ... I have a graduation ceremony for my daughter in Perm !!! I will tear half of the world "in hand-to-hand"
  16. shitovmg
    shitovmg 24 May 2014 22: 53
    0
    Swear, do not toss bags! I slept with AKM, I ate, always on my chest, d ... this is the end of the 70s, then not a bit of avgan ... from the middle sea I came, they said Gibraltar was covered with boats ...
  17. Arkan
    Arkan 24 May 2014 23: 05
    0
    The challenge has been thrown, we have accepted it. Russia and China, this is a good alliance, we are waiting for its new members. There are many dissatisfied with the Americans, so we will strengthen.
  18. lexx2038
    lexx2038 24 May 2014 23: 13
    +2
    There is still some kind of similarity in these galosh-shaped faces - poor people with broken genes, if we had such women - I don’t know, I probably would have remained a virgin. The men are tight in there, because half of them are blue, the rest are aggressive lawyers, and what remains is working in Hollywood. One there, with average characteristics, ran, Monica seems to be so her immediately their president, as chief, got tired. Poor things. Maybe we should not be tormented anymore?
    1. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 25 May 2014 01: 43
      +2
      If the first put a lot of makeup on your face to look a little better, then the second one will not help any makeup!
    2. Russian jacket
      Russian jacket 25 May 2014 01: 45
      +2
      Oh, I won’t drink the drain even in a hungry year wassat
  19. valery954
    valery954 24 May 2014 23: 35
    0
    At this stage, the development of cooperation with China meets the interests of both Russia and China. But then we will be careful, more pragmatic, we will always remember the events in Damansky.
    1. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 25 May 2014 01: 36
      0
      China is not the same, not the same.
  20. Alex ponyatenko
    Alex ponyatenko 24 May 2014 23: 43
    -4
    I wonder how the annexation of Crimea, the sponsorship of terrorists in the Donbass contribute to a positive opinion about Russia?
  21. Zhenya
    Zhenya 24 May 2014 23: 48
    +2
    Quote: Alex Ponyatenko
    I wonder how the annexation of Crimea, the sponsorship of terrorists in the Donbass contribute to a positive opinion about Russia?


    Crimea voted, no one annexed it - this is the first. What kind of terrorists? Where? Are you talking about Kiev government? Or are you talking about Poland, which trains militants? Speak more precisely.
    1. Alex ponyatenko
      Alex ponyatenko 24 May 2014 23: 52
      -3
      Chechnya also voted. So what?
      I remind you that Crimea under the constitution of Ukraine can NOT hold a referendum. Only all-Ukrainian. Observers from Ukraine, the EU, and the USA were not allowed. Kiev blocked the voter lists. Therefore, they voted without documents, without names. In blank forms.
      This referendum is illegal. And no one recognized him, except for Russia, Armenia, the DPRK and a pair of African Bantustans. Also, the UN did not recognize the annexation of Crimea to Russia.
      Poland trains militants? Throw already watch Kiselev!
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 25 May 2014 01: 20
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        Let’s honestly kid, we’re enemies and that’s why our opinions will always be opposite. I personally know 6 Crimeans, and one of them served in the special forces regiment of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Crimea and they all rejoiced, like children, that Crimea returned home. The opinion of the hunters in Kiev is up to us a star, the opinion of the old enemies, Poland and the Baltic as well. Not a single state will come to terms with territorial losses and the position of ukrov is completely understandable. But they themselves once separated and Crimea did the same. 97 percent of the Crimean people for joining Russia, we too, and the opinions of everyone else are deeply drumming to us. Yes, I don’t watch TV either and I don’t know what Kiselev broadcasts there, but compared to the articles of your media on the Internet, it is clearly more truthful.
      2. Russian jacket
        Russian jacket 25 May 2014 01: 44
        +1
        Ukraine did everything on its own for Russia to leave Crimea. And it is clear that you do not like it. It was necessary to create conditions for the Crimeans, and not to fight with the Russian language .. Now you can splash saliva and shake the scythe of your mistress, but the question of fact, with whom Crimea is no longer discussed. And you, who consider yourself the crown of creation, and we are Colorades, go through the forest to Geyrop. The Poles and Balts will be very glad to see you there. By competing for "prestigious" jobs ... There you, according to your media, have already prepared free bacon in chocolate, just open your mouth ... laughing
      3. not main
        not main 25 May 2014 02: 10
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        Quote: Alex Ponyatenko
        Throw already watch Kiselev!

        Why? I like Kiselev. By the way, unlike any nuland, psak, ashton and so on! Just turn on your brains!
      4. Orc-xnumx
        Orc-xnumx 25 May 2014 04: 58
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        You yourself sit in the gayropean "bantustan" and bark from under the fence!
      5. Ilyas
        Ilyas 25 May 2014 06: 26
        0
        "... Observers from Ukraine, EU, USA were not allowed ..."
        Yah?! Who told you this? Everyone came, EVERYTHING! There were representatives of the EU, all the people who were interested in the reliability of the elections, all were.
        "... Therefore, they voted without documents, without names. In empty forms ..."
        Kiev blocked the lists, but on the ground in Crimea, the lists remained from previous elections. Violations by observers were not found, see above. And no one leaves the name and signature on the voting form.

        It would be better to think about why the Crimeans so amicably and unanimously voted for reunification with Russia? Although it is unlikely that there will be any sensible conclusions from this. In Ukraine, the Russian language has never been the state language, so it will remain, as a maximum "regional". Well, of course it is, since only 12% of Ukrainians speak Russian ... according to truthful Ukrainian media reports.
    2. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 25 May 2014 01: 39
      0
      Do not pay attention, they don’t perceive the Maydan here!
  22. komel
    komel 25 May 2014 00: 02
    +1
    In my opinion, the United States considers the alliance between Japan and India under Abe and Modi to potentially reformat the strategic landscape in Asia. A bunch of these countries, in their understanding, should be held by China. Speaking at the forum today, Putin once again emphasized that China and Russia are not friends with anyone against other countries. In other words, China and Russia are now rapidly building economic and political ties. India is participating in the forum as a future ally. After strengthening ties with Russia, China must establish ties with India. China will be stronger if it finds a way to gather neighbors in its allies.
    1. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 25 May 2014 01: 47
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      I think that Iran will join us in Eurasia, while other applicants are not yet visible. All hope for Latin America, the United States there are many unhappy.
  23. g1v2
    g1v2 25 May 2014 01: 36
    +3
    By the way, whoever didn’t hear, they just reported that Kadyrov’s plane took our journalists out of Kiev and that he stayed at the airport for 4 days while Kadyrov’s representatives spoke with the Ukrainians. On Twitter, Kadyrov confirmed that they were already flying to Grozny. This is a response to the comrade from Poland regarding Chechnya.
  24. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 25 May 2014 02: 10
    0
    Quote: g1v2
    By the way, whoever didn’t hear, they just reported that Kadyrov’s plane took our journalists out of Kiev and that he stayed at the airport for 4 days while Kadyrov’s representatives spoke with the Ukrainians. On Twitter, Kadyrov confirmed that they were already flying to Grozny. This is a response to the comrade from Poland regarding Chechnya.

    Already sat at the airport of Grozny !!!
  25. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 25 May 2014 02: 13
    0
    Now, I think, there will be details about the MANPADS and SBU! Than the junta will be smeared ??? lol
  26. kondor-espada
    kondor-espada 25 May 2014 02: 49
    0
    A group of Finnish officers created their "Right Sector", threatening Russia with US nuclear weapons and disintegration. The head of the Finnish Right Sector is Lieutenant Colonel Torsti Siren, head of the strategic planning department of the Finnish armed forces, who publicly described Russia as a "mentally ill neighbor" and expressed the opinion that "If Russia did not exist, the world would be a better place." - And here is the first serious "barking" towards Russia. Hell, what if the United States and NATO are preparing something more than a cold war against us, it is not for nothing that they are building up their groupings in Europe and their presence is already visible in the Black Sea. Something is wrong ... it’s worth considering their own plan. "barbarossa".
  27. Siberian2183
    Siberian2183 25 May 2014 03: 26
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    Defense Ministers of Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands and Germany. More Spanish is not enough. What can they discuss among themselves there?

    a nightmare is happening in the women’s geyropa defense ministers soldiers and gay officers with this it’s not even interesting to fight
  28. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 25 May 2014 04: 52
    0
    And so it is clear against whom we are friends!
  29. Turkir
    Turkir 25 May 2014 16: 44
    0
    Chinese map of China. Great appetites. Click on the picture.
  30. andy.v.lee
    andy.v.lee 26 May 2014 06: 18
    0
    The Chinese "took into account" the prerequisites for the collapse of the USSR. And they did not repeat nonsense, they developed the economy, which was already the strongest in the world in the early 2000s. The collapse of the USSR will "go round" for a long time - the same Ukraine - one of the consequences ...