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Will you expect a Russian hypersonic rocket by 2020 year?

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Director of Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation Boris Obnosov says that Russia has developed a full-fledged program to create hypersonic missiles. According to him, the project was approved in the main military department, as well as in the Ministry of Industry and Trade. Reports about it ITAR-TASS.


Will you expect a Russian hypersonic rocket by 2020 year?


Boris Obnosov:

With many dozens of institutions, enterprises, we have formed 12 working groups. We have compiled such a program, it has already been approved by the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation. The main thing is that it is now implemented.


If the project will be implemented at the pace that is determined today, then by the 2020, Russia should have a working model of a new type of hypersonic missile.

In addition to Russia, such countries as the USA, China, France and India are participating in the race to create the fastest missile. The greatest success so far has been achieved in the joint Russian-Indian project "BrahMos" - the creation of the fastest cruise missile on the planet.

In August, 2013, the same Boris Obnosov, stated that a hypersonic rocket weapon is already at the disposal of Russia, but only the “lifetime” of the created rocket is too short. The head of the corporation "TRV" then informedthat the engineers are working on long-term hypersonic flight speeds around 6M (6 speeds of sound in air).
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  1. Gagarin
    Gagarin 23 May 2014 16: 01
    +40
    Will you expect a Russian hypersonic rocket by 2020 year?

    ... let's already, America is already waiting!
    1. MOISEY
      MOISEY 23 May 2014 16: 05
      +13
      I’ll take a look at the Russian-Indian cooperation that gives very good results, first a fifth-generation T-5 airplane, now a hypersonic missile. The course is right - keep it up.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 23 May 2014 16: 08
        -4
        Do you think it is possible to create a hypersonic ICBM? If so, then the flight time of such missiles will be equal to a few minutes, even when starting from the most remote regions of Russia.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 23 May 2014 16: 15
          +27
          Quote: Basarev
          Do you think it is possible to create a hypersonic ICBM?

          ICBMs are actually hypersonic :))))
          1. Bronis
            Bronis 23 May 2014 16: 25
            +10
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Quote: Basarev
            Do you think it is possible to create a hypersonic ICBM?
            ICBMs are actually hypersonic :))))

            As far as I understand, the question is not entirely correct. Hypersonic is traditionally considered a rocket capable of flying at such speeds in atmosphere a long time. Accordingly, the term does not apply to BR, but to KR.
            1. Jurkovs
              Jurkovs 23 May 2014 19: 44
              0
              Quote: Bronis
              Accordingly, the term does not apply to BR, but to KR.

              Iskander is armed with both a cruise missile and a short-range missile proper. Moreover, the warhead of this missile can maneuver in the final section of the flight, and without any wings. Apparently, this is about teaching Iskander missiles to fly in hypersound and independently aim at the target.
              1. Sibiriya
                Sibiriya 23 May 2014 20: 02
                0
                the most important problem is materials that can withstand heating to extreme temperatures and filling, because the rocket has a short life time
              2. Bronis
                Bronis 23 May 2014 20: 37
                +1
                Quote: Jurkovs
                Iskander is armed with both a cruise missile and a short-range missile proper. Moreover, the warhead of this missile can maneuver in the final section of the flight, and without any wings. Apparently, this is about teaching Iskander missiles to fly in hypersound and independently aim at the target.

                As far as is known, a rocket needs wings not for maneuvering, but for flight (if, of course, it is winged; maneuvering is the lot of aerodynamic or gas-dynamic rudders). In the case of the quasi-ballistic missile for the Iskander (quasi - because it maneuvers), both are probably used. The flight trajectory, on the other hand, makes it possible to reach very considerable speeds (in the final section). It is likely that it is deep beyond 5M or maybe 6. This already corresponds to the speeds of hypersound.
                We are talking about a hypersonic cruise missile with a long range and, most likely, air-based (at least first).
          2. Penzyac
            Penzyac 23 May 2014 16: 50
            +13
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Quote: Basarev
            Do you think it is possible to create a hypersonic ICBM?

            ICBMs are actually hypersonic :))))

            Maybe he meant MKR? Hypersound at a low altitude, but with an envelope around the surface - you can’t imagine any cooler. Imagine a horizontally flying large meteorite burning with fire from friction against the air (probably, you will have to make a tungsten case), and behind it a powerful shock wave along the entire path of its following in hypersound, you can not even put a warhead warren. I dispersed over America and let the circles cut ... Tin! wassat
            1. mealnik2005
              mealnik2005 23 May 2014 17: 22
              +3
              "Dispersed over America and, let him cut circles .."

              I'm under the table ... rzhunimagu ...
            2. ziqzaq
              ziqzaq 23 May 2014 17: 37
              +7
              Quote: PENZYAC
              I dispersed over America and let the circles cut ... Tin!

              That's for sure, and then throw a rubber bomb - let it jump ...
              1. sir.jonn
                sir.jonn 23 May 2014 20: 31
                0
                Quote: ziqzaq
                Quote: PENZYAC
                I dispersed over America and let the circles cut ... Tin!

                That's for sure, and then throw a rubber bomb - let it jump ...

                Cassette?
              2. tehnoluks
                tehnoluks 23 May 2014 21: 27
                +1
                ... with a shout "hto does not jump, that ......!" )))))))
            3. Blondy
              Blondy 23 May 2014 18: 17
              +1
              The specific gravity of tungsten?
              1. GRAY
                GRAY 23 May 2014 22: 02
                +1
                Quote: Blondy
                The specific gravity of tungsten?

                There are two cast-iron dumbbells of 1,5 kg., I can concede for inexpensive.
          3. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 24 May 2014 00: 08
            +1
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            ICBMs are actually hypersonic :))))

            The judgment is incorrect. The product - no, BB - well, somewhere around this, if not maneuvering, breaking through the missile defense.
            Winged, in order to reduce air resistance, are forced to climb to the boundary of the atmosphere, but there are problems with air oxygen for ramjet engine (ramjet).
            And the American "prototypes" look like this:
        2. jayich
          jayich 23 May 2014 16: 17
          +5
          Well, they are, as it were, already hypersonic 7 with a tail km / s, i.e. first cosmic speed, if I'm not mistaken.
          1. perfect100
            perfect100 23 May 2014 16: 32
            +1
            If the first space velocity (7,9 km / s), then this is not a hypersonic rocket, but an orbital one. There was such a R-36orb, in 1983 it was removed from duty, under the OSV-2 contract.
            1. zeleznijdorojnik
              zeleznijdorojnik 23 May 2014 16: 54
              +1
              Withdrew from the language - OGCh - unlimited range, constant voltage of the enemy, the inability to guess the trajectory, the vulnerability of missile defense ....
          2. Blondy
            Blondy 23 May 2014 18: 28
            0
            Simple task
            Given: TTD speed = 6M,
            where M = standard speed of sound in air.
            How much will it be in km / s?
            1. tehnoluks
              tehnoluks 23 May 2014 21: 30
              +1
              At what height? Max height different
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        4. Ivan Petrovich
          Ivan Petrovich 23 May 2014 16: 35
          0
          do not wait for a fulle ... do not twist the generator ...
        5. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 23 May 2014 16: 41
          +14
          Quote: Basarev
          Do you think it is possible to create a hypersonic ICBM? If so, then the flight time of such missiles will be equal to a few minutes, even when starting from the most remote regions of Russia.

          If only you were shy, you did not study at school? Or are these consequences of the EEG system making themselves felt?

          1. The flight time of an ICBM (or rather MIRV units) and so "a few minutes" (25-45 min), depending on the launch range and flatness of the trajectory. (I hope there is no need to explain the word "flatness"? There is an encyclopedia for the extreme - I recommend it)

          2. The flight speed of an ICBM after acceleration is closer to the 1st space (18-20 max), therefore, creating a "hypersonic" ICBM (6-12 max) is idiocy (even from an engineering point of view)

          3. Finally grab a ruler, a globe, and expand your knowledge of geography. Measure the distance to the US midwest (where their main ICBMs are), across the pole (along the launch trajectory), first from Moscow, then from Vladivostok, compare - and think hard about the absurdity of the phrase: "when starting from the most remote regions of Russia" (Although ICBM are based to the north, because of the finite launch range. Or did you decide to let them in from Krasnodar? It's like scratching your left ear, with your right heel)
        6. Alex 241
          Alex 241 23 May 2014 18: 05
          +3
          Quote: Basarev
          Do you think it is possible to create a hypersonic ICBM?

          Ballistic missile warheads are already hypersonic.
        7. yushch
          yushch 23 May 2014 19: 31
          +1
          So these missiles are there, only they live a little, everything rests on materials, or rather on the resistance of these materials to air in hypersound.
          1. Vorodis_vA
            Vorodis_vA 23 May 2014 22: 17
            -1
            there is also a problem at high speeds - this is the impossibility of radar guidance on the target, due to the formation of plasma around the rocket, for this reason, closer to the target, space speed is impossible at the moment, on approaching the ballistic missile warheads slow down, the moment of launch and approach to the target the most dangerous for ballistic missiles. But they also began to install optics for the final guidance on some missiles, it seems. In general, the problem of super-speeds in the atmosphere does not seem to be solved. It seems something like this ...
            PS- at what speeds does the plasma appear I don’t remember needing to google ... Correct if that.
        8. APASUS
          APASUS 23 May 2014 21: 34
          -1
          Quote: Basarev
          Do you think it is possible to create a hypersonic ICBM? If so, then the flight time of such missiles will be equal to a few minutes, even when starting from the most remote regions of Russia.

          These are not likely precision weapons of non-nuclear deterrence.
      2. Wiruz
        Wiruz 23 May 2014 16: 15
        +6
        first plane of the 5th generation T-50

        Well, let's say the Indians have nothing to do with the T-50. The maximum that they can count on is FGFA (by the way, the Su-50E sounds better in my opinion).
        And besides, all this cooperation is a pure policy, it does not affect the result of development.
      3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 23 May 2014 16: 17
        +5
        Quote: MOISEY
        I will take a look at Russian-Indian cooperation. It gives very good results.

        Of course. Brains are ours, money is Indian.
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      5. SHAKESPEARE
        SHAKESPEARE 23 May 2014 17: 35
        -3
        If scientists were given a good incentive, then this rocket would have been already this year.
        Technology does not stand still, they are moving at a frantic pace, especially in nanotechnology, which we recently learned about.
        1. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
          Mihaylo Tishayshiy 23 May 2014 19: 50
          +1
          Quote: SHEKSPIR
          If scientists were given a good incentive, then this rocket would have been already this year.
          Technology does not stand still, they are moving at a frantic pace, especially in nanotechnology, which we recently learned about.

          Back in 1980, the X-15 rocket was developed and adopted for service. The maximum speed is 5M, the flight altitude is up to 40 km, the trajectory is controlled, close to the ballistic, the range, however, is small - up to 300 km, but practically did not give any chances for enemy air defense, which cannot be said about the carrier (it starts from an airplane). But 34 years have passed already, science and technology do not stand still.
      6. Jurkovs
        Jurkovs 23 May 2014 19: 38
        0
        Why is the issue of creating a hypersonic rocket all the time confusing the missile itself and the cruise missile? The latter will never fly at hypersonic speed.
      7. Starley from the south
        Starley from the south 23 May 2014 23: 53
        0
        It would also be nice to make hypersonic artillery ... For ranges of 100-200 km, it will be much cheaper than missiles.
    2. zanoza
      zanoza 23 May 2014 16: 11
      +2
      The Russian land is not impoverished by the minds! good
      We can and can!
      And additional money for development will not be superfluous.
    3. armageddon
      armageddon 23 May 2014 16: 30
      0
      hmm ... Yes, they already talked about this ... In a minute 2 turns ... Plasma removes air resistance !!! Well, wait ...
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    5. Vladislav
      Vladislav 23 May 2014 19: 41
      -1
      Beautifully said!
  2. Peter Timofeev
    Peter Timofeev 23 May 2014 16: 01
    +3
    It is very good that we are in front. Let the bastards be afraid.
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 23 May 2014 16: 46
      +3
      Quote: Peter Timofeev
      It is very good that we in front. Let the bastards be afraid.

      "ahead" is written together ... did you also take the EEG?
  3. DanSabaka
    DanSabaka 23 May 2014 16: 02
    +1
    Well, research has been going on for a long time ... Perhaps by the 20th year there will be a result, especially if they cooperate with the Indians .... And then the Chinese and USoffs are also not asleep ...
    1. tehnoluks
      tehnoluks 23 May 2014 21: 34
      0
      It’s better with aliens, for sure))))
  4. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 23 May 2014 16: 02
    +21
    6 max is a tin - tie on top of Kolomoisky, head forward)))) so that the head flew out through the ass!
    1. nalim
      nalim 23 May 2014 16: 26
      +7
      Where is his head and where is his ass? It’s not clear yet!
      1. MBA78
        MBA78 23 May 2014 17: 23
        +1
        ass on both sides at the same time
  5. pensioner
    pensioner 23 May 2014 16: 02
    +4
    engineers are working on a long-term flight at a hypersonic speed of about 6M (6 speeds of sound in air).
    It will be not enough !! Give the top ten! And so that without time limits and payload!
    1. andranick
      andranick 23 May 2014 16: 30
      +3
      this is some kind of teleport;)
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    3. Aryan
      Aryan 23 May 2014 16: 30
      +2
      damn, with such requirements teleportation will be cheaper and more reliable what
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 23 May 2014 16: 47
        +1
        Quote: Aryan
        damn, with such requirements teleportation will be cheaper and more reliable

        Well then: give teleportation!
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        2. Aryan
          Aryan 23 May 2014 22: 43
          0
          still as an option- oooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeboo
          so that the fost was on the launch pad, and the nose with the warhead reached the target
          then you don’t have to fly anywhere
          and dofiga fuel will be saved
          and faster rockets will no longer be needed
          (and it won’t work out) hi
    4. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 23 May 2014 16: 59
      0
      Quote: retired
      It will be not enough !! Give the top ten! And so that without time limits and payload!

      Of course of course fellow, Khattabych will only be called, he will cancel the laws of physics, or at least immediately, industrial production of graphene will conjure up (on light and durable heat-resistant coatings), well, and a perpetual motion machine with antigravity (so that without time limits and useful load) "at the behest of a pike, so to speak" wassat
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 23 May 2014 17: 07
        +1
        Thanks for the lecture! And then, while studying at the physics department, I somehow did not really like the course "Theory of Continuous Media" ...
    5. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 May 2014 17: 04
      +4
      Quote: retired
      engineers are working on a long-term flight at a hypersonic speed of about 6M (6 speeds of sound in air).
      It will be not enough !! Give the top ten! And so that without time limits and payload!

      You really want to beat the rubber bomb ... smile
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 23 May 2014 17: 08
        +1
        Quote: PENZYAC
        You, frankly, want to surpass a rubber bomb.

        stop Jump over! yes
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 23 May 2014 18: 30
          +3
          Quote: retired
          Quote: PENZYAC
          You, frankly, want to surpass a rubber bomb.

          stop Jump over! yes

          But what about point weapons that do not cause collateral damage? belay
          "Cast iron bomb" - the radius of damage is equal to the radius of the bomb. wassat
          1. schizophrenic
            schizophrenic 23 May 2014 21: 09
            0
            Quote: And Us Rat
            Cast iron bomb "- the radius of damage is equal to the radius of the bomb

            Prefer a meteor shower of 2 modifications; 1 can drive the Earth crazy, 2 can clean the room. laughing wassat
          2. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 24 May 2014 00: 50
            +2
            Quote: And Us Rat
            But what about point weapons that do not cause collateral damage?

            YOURSELF, teaching your colleagues in Russian spelling, do not forget about punctuation, since you have chosen the role of a site proofreader. And finally learn how to spell the word "weapon" correctly!
            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 24 May 2014 01: 27
              0
              Quote: BoA KAA
              Quote: And Us Rat
              But what about point weapons that do not cause collateral damage?

              YOURSELF, teaching your colleagues in Russian spelling, do not forget about punctuation, since you have chosen the role of a site proofreader. And finally learn how to spell the word "weapon" correctly!

              In no case do I seek to position myself as a master of Russian literature, but damn it ... it’s one thing when mistakes (easy) are made by me - a person who studied Russian myself (left in grade 3), and another thing when mistakes are made (on the verge of oligophrenia) do people who, in theory, have completed a full school curriculum. request
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              2. pensioner
                pensioner 24 May 2014 15: 02
                0
                Quote: And Us Rat
                and another thing when mistakes (on the verge of oligophrenia) are made by people who, in theory, have completed a full school educational program

                I understand that this is a stone in my garden ...
                Well, what can I say ... if a respected opponent, who is trying to empty his intestines for all evil and in plain sight, tries to pass me an exam in physics, mathematical analysis, resistance to materials and, for example, "Machine parts" (I'm not sure here anymore ... many years have passed ...), then I'm not sure that he will succeed.
    6. grandfather_Kostya
      grandfather_Kostya 23 May 2014 22: 46
      +2
      MIG-31 at a speed of 3M is already heated to 300 g / s even at an altitude of 21 km. The rocket at a speed of 6M will bask even harder - you have to raise the height to 30km, and 10M and even higher! Anyone who wants to lower the rocket below will receive something similar to a capsule of the Union when leaving the orbit: a plasma-heated incandescent pig is blind and deaf, visible for hundreds of kilometers through huge infrared radiation. What is the suddenness and subtlety of getting here?
  6. Giant thought
    Giant thought 23 May 2014 16: 03
    +2
    We are looking forward, of course, with impatience to a hypersonic rocket. With its presence, no missile defense can do anything. At the same time, we need to think about protecting against American missiles of this kind.
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 23 May 2014 16: 19
      +2
      Quote: Thought Giant
      With its presence, no missile defense can do anything

      It is limited in maneuver. The trajectory can be roughly calculated and displayed interceptor
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 24 May 2014 01: 22
        +1
        Quote: Pilat2009
        It is limited in maneuver. The trajectory can be roughly calculated and displayed interceptor

        To do this, you need to have an interception system with a minimum reaction time. The fastest A-135 anti-missile flies at a speed of 5km / s (according to other sources --3600m / s), reaches the target in just 12 seconds. The special feature is special warhead equipment.
        A new A-235 of the Airplane-M system has now been developed, and is expected to be put into service in 2015. She also has a kinetic warhead. But it's OL!
  7. aleks 62
    aleks 62 23 May 2014 16: 03
    +6
    .... Good news ... Yes, bastards will do the same !!!! .... In the field of aerodynamics, Americans and the rest, compared to ours, nervously smoke aside ...
  8. Magic archer
    Magic archer 23 May 2014 16: 06
    +3
    The Americans announced last year that the prototype of their cruise missile was ready for testing. And then silence ... Secret results, ghouls
    1. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 23 May 2014 16: 19
      +1
      Most likely drank dough. Americans love to show off their weapons.
      1. Magic archer
        Magic archer 23 May 2014 16: 37
        +2
        And yes and no. If there is a working prototype, then full-scale research and development is being conducted on this topic. And sooner or later, the Americans will have such a rocket! No wonder Obama refused further purchases of the Tomahawks!
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 24 May 2014 01: 36
          +1
          Quote: Magic Archer
          Obama refused further purchases of Tomahawks!

          Instead, they will adopt the LRASM. It is not hypersonic, but only supersonic and the second option is high subsonic.
  9. pOpolzen
    pOpolzen 23 May 2014 16: 06
    +2
    Horror news!
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  11. Nitarius
    Nitarius 23 May 2014 16: 07
    0
    and in Chelyabinsk that MUHA fell at a speed of 20-24 MAX ??
    or friends because of BUGRA TEST on us ???
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 23 May 2014 17: 13
      0
      Quote: Nitarius
      and in Chelyabinsk that MUHA fell at a speed of 20-24 MAX ??
      or friends because of BUGRA TEST on us ???

      No, this is most likely our tests in Cap. Yare was carried out, it turned out to be undershot, they said that they were working on the range. If the next time a "meteorite" falls in Siberia or the North Pole, then it is definitely ours.
      Beyond the puddle, the experimental sample did not even go beyond the limits of their landfill.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 24 May 2014 01: 47
      +1
      Quote: Nitarius
      and in Chelyabinsk that MUHA fell at a speed of 20-24 MAX ??? or friends because of BUGRA TEST on us ???

      Another thing struck me. When viewing a replay in the IR range (and where did the IR camera come from there?) On YouTube, you can see how a "meteorite" catches up and breaks down some "kinetic object" in two.
      I had a question: what could fly faster than a meteorite?
  12. Arh
    Arh 23 May 2014 16: 08
    +2
    A Good Rocket Will Fly Directly To The Target !!!)))
  13. Gagarin
    Gagarin 23 May 2014 16: 09
    +9
    "... but only the" lifetime "of the created rocket is too short."
    I think if it launches from the Yasenya nuclear submarine somewhere off the coast of the United States, the rocket will not need much time ... It is not for nothing that such technologies and money are poured into such a boat!
    1. Nikita_Pilot
      Nikita_Pilot 23 May 2014 16: 16
      +4
      So far, we have only one hypersonic missile. This X-90 is the most secret weapon of the Russian Federation, its appearance is classified, its characteristics are practically unknown. The only thing known is that it farts from the Tu-160m. The flight speed is 7 km / sec. The discharge height is from 4 to 20 km. It also has two charges, that is, before the target it is divided into two parts. It has nuclear weapons, 2 warheads.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 23 May 2014 17: 23
        +2
        Quote: Nikita_Pilot
        So far, we have only one hypersonic missile. This X-90 is the most secret weapon of the Russian Federation ... Flight speed 7 km / s ...

        This is almost 25M, a little less than the first space. You are joking?
        1. Klim
          Klim 23 May 2014 22: 51
          0
          The hypersonic missile, it seems to me at the moment of the development of scientific and technological progress, is an unattainable goal, it hurts a lot of problems to implement this project, this is comparable to the nuclear or missile programs of the USSR immediately after the war, but unfortunately there are effective managers like L.P. Beria now I don’t see, but there will be another cut of funds and oath promises that a little bit more and it will fly away, but seriously, here we are talking about the amounts as a percentage of GDP because these are new industries, modernization of old research institutes and the creation of new ones will need to be reanimated or to create new related industries, in short, we need a mobilization economy which was after the Second World War in the Soviet Union. And again, guarantees, even with current investments, will probably not be given by anyone who suffers a lot of purely physical problems both with materials and with the engine running at that speed in dense layers of the atmosphere and the work of electronics.
        2. Nikita_Pilot
          Nikita_Pilot 30 May 2014 10: 40
          0
          No, she has been moving at such speed for some time, but if she moves more than the time that she has been given, she will burn. Also, her maneuvers are combined with access to low Earth orbit and a sharp descent down to the target.
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 24 May 2014 02: 11
        +2
        Quote: Nikita_Pilot
        hypersonic rocket. This X-90 is the most secret weapon of the Russian Federation

        The missile, according to the descriptions, was supposed to be equipped with a starting solid propellant rocket propulsion system and a marching engine air-propelled rocket engine or scramjet engine on kerosene. According to various sources, the marching speed of the X-90 should be from 2 to 4,5M. The estimated launch height of 7000 is 20000 m, and the range is 3000 km.
        Quote: Nikita_Pilot
        the appearance is classified
        Who wants to, can see, transfer to the post does not work something.
        http://www.webcitation.org/69jeAIFz1
        1. Nikita_Pilot
          Nikita_Pilot 30 May 2014 10: 43
          0
          This is not her full view, as in flight she straightens her wings and changes her appearance. This is only her view in which she will be in the bomb bay.
  14. yehat
    yehat 23 May 2014 16: 10
    +7
    anti-aircraft missiles are already flying at such speeds, but the step from short-time hypersound to long-lasting is very difficult! This became clear in the Mig-25 and Mig-31 projects.
  15. lexxxus
    lexxxus 23 May 2014 16: 13
    +5
    A worthy answer to NATO!

    PS Well, here begins a new round of the arms race ... and I wanted to live in peace ...
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 23 May 2014 16: 16
      +8
      Quote: lexxxus
      PS Well, here begins a new round of the arms race ... and I wanted to live in peace ...

      it is thanks to this round that you, quite possibly, will live in peace :)))
      1. lexxxus
        lexxxus 23 May 2014 16: 21
        0
        perhaps you will live in peace


        may be...
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      3. vagabundo55
        vagabundo55 24 May 2014 00: 02
        0
        Such turns are vital. Periodically. They accelerate scientific and technological progress by 20-25 years in advance ...
  16. Bootlegger
    Bootlegger 23 May 2014 16: 19
    +16
    Obama idioT
    1. marder4
      marder4 23 May 2014 17: 12
      +1
      similar statements in the spirit of mattress covers
  17. GRAY
    GRAY 23 May 2014 16: 19
    +13
    In the 50s in the USSR there was such a thing - "The Tempest", it was a pity they did not bring it. But there is some groundwork.
    1. CadetXXX
      CadetXXX 23 May 2014 16: 29
      +8
      The new Russian weapons, the world's first maneuvering hypersonic cruise missile, must successfully overcome any missile defense system. The missile is called the X-90, and is the Kremlin’s response to Washington’s missile defense program. A prototype missile is designated as GELA (a hypersonic experimental aircraft). In the west, the project is known under the innocuous name of “AS-X-21 Koala.” The history of the X-90 began in 1971. In the late 70s, the prototype X-90 reached a speed of 2,5-3 M, and in the 80s it was already 3-4 M. Visitors to the MAKS-1997 air show could admire the experimental hypersonic GEL aircraft in the Raduga pavilion. GELA is the prototype of the new cruise missile. The experimental model of the x-90, was successfully tested in early 2004 during the headquarters exercises, which were attended by Vladimir Putin.
      Everything new is well forgotten old! Experience in our country is already available!
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 23 May 2014 16: 35
        0
        There are common features in the contours.
      2. Alex 241
        Alex 241 23 May 2014 18: 12
        +4
        Let's figure it out. GELA (“Koala”), the maximum “promised” speed of which was 4,5 M, is not hypersonic by definition (hypersonic speeds exceeding 5 M). Stable operation of the scramjet is possible only at speeds of 5 m. In other words, we are not talking about a rocket with a hypersonic ramjet engine, but with an order of magnitude simpler supersonic (SPVRD), using hydrogen obtained as a fuel by decomposition of kerosene. Financing of the project was discontinued in 1992 due to technical difficulties, however, the OKB "Rainbow", obviously, for some time still conducted sluggish work on the initiative. In fact, in 2004, “throwing” (without turning on the engine) tests of the same “Needles” took place, and unsuccessful - according to Solomonov’s acknowledgment, the apparatus burned out in the atmosphere (the initial plans, judging by the illustrations that were quietly hanging on the MAKS, provided for descent spirals and parachuting).

        The next stage of the domestic hypersonic program is associated with the HLL AP-02, equipped with a kerosene scramjet engine (speed up to M 6). For the first time, the GLL model was shown in 2007, bench tests began in 2010. It is also known about the “not entirely successful test” in 2011.
        1. CadetXXX
          CadetXXX 23 May 2014 21: 31
          0
          By the way, the X90 Koala project was closed under pressure from the Americans, they were very much afraid at that time that they would create a hypersonic missile in our country. Undoubtedly, by 2020, such a rocket needs to be created and put into service, they are the future.
        2. bigELDAK
          bigELDAK 24 May 2014 10: 50
          0
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      3. defend
        defend 27 May 2014 12: 56
        0
        Yes, there was a good project at the time, it was a pity
  18. Wiruz
    Wiruz 23 May 2014 16: 21
    +1
    I am wildly sorry that this is not the topic, but there is a question, is it true that rockets to the S-500 will be accelerated to 12 M?
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 23 May 2014 17: 22
      +2
      They say that they will accelerate to 7 km / s, it's 21 M.
      In fact, FIG knows him, let the Americans over this break their head.
    2. Alex 241
      Alex 241 23 May 2014 18: 49
      +2
      Missiles of the S-400 complex hit targets moving at a speed of 4M, to altitudes of 35km.
  19. rereture
    rereture 23 May 2014 16: 24
    +2
    More rockets are good and different. The main thing is that they be highly accurate, then it will be possible in a few minutes to cover strategically important objects of potential opponents.
    1. Luga
      Luga 23 May 2014 16: 45
      +8
      You are not politically correct. smile
      Quote: rereture
      cover strategically important targets of potential adversaries.

      Phi.
      "Deliver strategically important cargoes to our Western partners." In our time, it is customary to say so.
      wink hi
      1. rereture
        rereture 23 May 2014 16: 51
        +5
        I agree, in our time it is necessary to be the maximum politically correct laughing
  20. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 23 May 2014 16: 25
    +1
    I’m sure we will remain the leaders of rocket science, the main financing was that it didn’t interrupt, our physicists and mathematicians were engineers and designers, as they were the best they would remain, I’m sure!
  21. Pastor
    Pastor 23 May 2014 16: 28
    +1
    Quote: lexxxus
    A worthy answer to NATO!

    PS Well, here begins a new round of the arms race ... and I wanted to live in peace ...
    -want peace-prepare for war ..
  22. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 23 May 2014 16: 29
    0
    It’s not for nothing that Americans have lately been crushing us with all sorts of sanctions, threatening to arrange Maidan .. They feel that their entire missile defense and AUG (costly) will turn into an easy target .. There are still Kulibins in Russia.! I am sure that in the zashashnik there are still a lot of surprises with us ..
  23. jovanni
    jovanni 23 May 2014 16: 38
    +2
    There you go! Just in time for the 20th year, you can have time to build bases around the village of ...
  24. subbtin.725
    subbtin.725 23 May 2014 16: 50
    0
    The application has just appeared, and the Yankees have probably already squirmed; point bench press.
  25. Vlad Gore
    Vlad Gore 23 May 2014 16: 51
    0
    Those who will behave badly, of course expect. And not only hypersonic, but everyone else. bully
  26. rereture
    rereture 23 May 2014 16: 59
    +1
    Dear visitors of the Military Review website, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation has launched a popular initiative project where you can create and / or vote for a variety of petitions. For example, for the abolition of the transport tax, the return of the citizen’s right to the Constitutional Court, for lowering gas prices, for listing the United States on the list of countries supporting terrorism.

    http://ni.kprf.ru/n/2380/
    http://ni.kprf.ru/n/2394/
    1. gogen3
      gogen3 23 May 2014 17: 29
      +1
      here for the last 2 I would definitely vote
  27. Repty
    Repty 23 May 2014 17: 16
    0
    Quote: nalim
    nalim Today, 16:26 ↑ New
    Where is his head and where is his ass? Not clear yet



    This is a plus !!!
  28. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 23 May 2014 17: 22
    0
    Preferably in Washington and of course before the 20th year!
  29. Lesorub
    Lesorub 23 May 2014 17: 26
    +1
    I think that creating Hypersonic is a big reality - the main military-political desire !!! And at the expense of max 6 or more, I think this is not a problem for current technologies! (At one time, tests were conducted using plasma in the bow of a rocket)! And there it will be seen that techies will come up!
  30. gogen3
    gogen3 23 May 2014 17: 33
    +1
    And now attention to all those who know English! The Americans are going to spend 30 lard on the "development of democracy" in Russia. The bill has passed 2 readings in Congress and is now being approved by the relevant commission. It also envisages the imposition of sanctions in the event that Russia continues its current foreign policy course concerning Sberbank, Gazprom, Gazprombank, VTB, etc. You can read the text here:
    http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2277/text
    1. Lunic
      Lunic 24 May 2014 08: 16
      0
      But where is it about 30 lard?
      This bill proposes steps and measures to "repel the aggression of the Russian Federation towards Ukraine", Including it is proposed to help Ukraine with instructors, small arms, anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons and ammunition. Also means of transportation and protection and communication.
      "Reducing European energy dependence on the Russian Federation", Strengthening US-Germany cooperation, Protecting US (and NATO) interests in Europe and Eurasia ..
      Well, the list of sanctions and Russian campaigns falling under the sanctions is itself listed ...
      In addition, the requirement of non-recognition of Crimea as the territory of Russia and (the most recent) Development and implementation of a plan for informational propaganda in Russian in the territories of the former USSR (Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine and then Estonia Lithuania and Latvia) Annual propaganda budget of $ 7,500.000 until 2017
  31. SHAKESPEARE
    SHAKESPEARE 23 May 2014 17: 36
    +1
    Quote: SHEKSPIR
    If scientists were given a good incentive, then this rocket would have been already this year.
    Technology does not stand still, they are moving at a frantic pace, especially in nanotechnology, which we recently learned about.

    I ask the moderator to change my flag from Ukrainian to the flag of the Luhansk People's Republic.
  32. sv68
    sv68 23 May 2014 18: 13
    0
    Strange and even very. The fact is that in the USSR there were several similar developments, they didn’t take anything into service, but the results were very significant. Until 2020, such a product can be created if the results of old projects are ignored. Less time is enough. Moreover, power installation can be like rd so scpd
  33. Leshka
    Leshka 23 May 2014 18: 48
    0
    hypersaus is a good thing
  34. BambrSV
    BambrSV 24 May 2014 03: 43
    0
    Quote: PENZYAC
    I dispersed over America and let the circles cut ... Tin! wassat

    Then too wink better "Rubber Bomb" repeat let yourself jump ...
  35. bigELDAK
    bigELDAK 24 May 2014 10: 48
    0
    yes here she is, together with India doing