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Ukrainian mercenaries are assisted by foreign mercenaries.

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According to the ITAR-TASS, Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov said that the Kiev authorities do not disdain to use foreign mercenaries in the course of a military operation in the south-east of Ukraine.


“According to reliable data we have, dozens of foreign military mercenaries, including Americans, are taking part in the hostilities in the south-east of Ukraine on the side of the Kiev authorities,” he said.

According to Gerasimov, Kiev created a large-scale group to suppress protest moods. “To suppress the protests, a group of forces has been created that has military equipment, artillery systems, multiple launch rocket systems and combat Aviation. There is evidence of private military companies participating in Ukrainian events, ”he said.

According to the chief of the General Staff, “the conflict has moved into a phase of intrastate armed confrontation and has practically turned into a civil war.”
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  1. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 23 May 2014 12: 06
    +10
    a group of forces has been established that is armed with military equipment, artillery systems, multiple launch rocket systems, and combat aircraft.
    - I’m wondering why Putin will not introduce at least a no-fly zone over the DPR and LPR ...
    1. Normal
      Normal 23 May 2014 12: 11
      +8
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      - I’m wondering why Putin will not introduce at least a no-fly zone over the DPR and LPR ...


      Either he cannot, or he does not want to.
      A no-fly zone is probably needed. But instead we sent troops.
      1. MOISEY
        MOISEY 23 May 2014 12: 14
        +21
        Then one piece of news in the media're coming out smiled "The United States has postponed joint military exercises with Ukraine."
        Somehow sycotic next to the militia of Donbass to be probably.

        http://www.unn.com.ua/ru/news/1345879-ssha-vidklali-spilni-z-ukrayinoyu-viyskovi

        -navchannya
        1. FREGATENKAPITAN
          FREGATENKAPITAN 23 May 2014 12: 27
          +7
          And yesterday I wrote that if Putin and the Strelkov are allowed .... Apparently they were not allowed ..... soldier
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      2. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon 23 May 2014 12: 14
        0
        Quote: Normal
        we sent troops.
        - did they surrender Ukraine? wassat
        1. Normal
          Normal 23 May 2014 12: 19
          +3
          Quote: Dazdranagon
          did surrender Ukraine?


          Didn't you know? belay Another 23 years ago.
          But the Southeast ... I do not want to think so ... But ... request
          1. Homo
            Homo 23 May 2014 13: 15
            +29
            Quote: Normal
            Didn't you know? Another 23 years ago.
            But the Southeast ... I do not want to think so ... But ...

            I have already replied to similar comments several times. Are you proposing "checkers bald" and a million killed on both sides? I personally have no desire to fight for Ukraine, and I do not wish the same to children and neighbors and friends! Ukrainians themselves do not want anything else! How many healthy men are there in the two regions (which have declared themselves independent republics)? And how many at checkpoints and in the militia? Shish, no shisha! They do not want to fight for themselves, but why should Russia fight for their sovereignty? They want to go to work, get paid, but should Russia fight for this? And if we talk about 23 years ..., then we surrendered both Ukraine and Russia and Belarus and the rest of us ourselves. Four meters ... tore the country, divided people, abandoned allies, caved in under America, and tens of millions of us were silent or condemned without getting up from the couch! And now heroes like you are expressing dissatisfaction with the president's policies, not trying to look beyond today, beyond their noses. Just read, Putin go ahead, Putin bring in troops, Putin occupy Kiev, etc. And why? The people of Ukraine are mostly silent, they do not support the idea of ​​federalization, they are not going to oppose the "pravosek" and other "frostbitten". So why should Russia get involved in a knowingly losing event?
            1. Dazdranagon
              Dazdranagon 23 May 2014 13: 54
              +6
              Quote: Homo
              without trying to look beyond today, beyond your nose
              - and I look beyond my nose - today they will put their power in Ukraine - tomorrow missile defense near Lugansk - the day after tomorrow ... The result - they will divide Russia ...
              Quote: Homo
              in a knowingly losing event
              - South Ossetia, Syria - losing events? hi
            2. Aleksandr65
              Aleksandr65 23 May 2014 14: 03
              +12
              Once again: in Chechnya in the 90s, 30 thousand Russians were massacred, 250 thousand fled, but they did not defend themselves. Wrong Russians, probably unworthy of protection. And that means they cut it right, so it turns out your way. And in my opinion, the peaceful ordinary people should be protected by the ARMY. And the people did their job in referendums, under bullets and with an open passport. And the GDP could help with weapons, money, organization, and not build a virgin out of himself - after his own confession about "green men (complete idiocy!), No one will believe him anyway."
              1. Dazdranagon
                Dazdranagon 23 May 2014 14: 21
                +1
                Quote: Aleksandr65
                the people must defend the ARMY
                - You are a plus! And it turns out the army of mercenaries, professional killers confronts ordinary people ...
                1. fedorovith
                  fedorovith 23 May 2014 22: 35
                  -1
                  And who is stopping you from attracting "volunteers", or will you send your son?
            3. Komrad.Garik
              Komrad.Garik 23 May 2014 14: 12
              +1
              Well, yes, it seems that way. But only they will crush the southeast, they have more cannon fodder and more elementary rounds. Maybe I should have helped with weapons.? And then later we still feel ashamed that nothing helped.
            4. Normal
              Normal 23 May 2014 14: 44
              +4
              Quote: Homo
              I have already responded to such comments several times.

              Maybe, but I don’t remember what it was for me.
              Quote: Homo
              Are you proposing "checkers bald" and a million killed on both sides?

              Why do you think so? I am against the entry of the Russian Armed Forces into the territory of Ukraine. But I consider the withdrawal of troops immediately before the elections to be false, and I consider the rationale for this withdrawal to be stupid.

              Quote: Homo
              They do not want to fight for themselves, and why should Russia fight for their sovereignty?

              The fact is that if we do not want control of this territory by our enemies, then ultimately we will have to control this territory ourselves. Not necessarily with the help of the Armed Forces, but control (politically, economically, ideologically) is necessary.
              Quote: Homo
              And speaking of 23 years.

              You can not talk about 23 years.
              We can talk about the last 14 years. Not too little. About what has been done, and most importantly, what has not been done over the years for the return of Ukraine to Russian civilization. Who is to blame and what to do now.

              This is what I especially liked. laughing
              Quote: Homo
              And if we talk about 23 years ... then they surrendered Ukraine and Russia and Belarus and the rest we yourself ..... Four meters ..... caved in under America and we tens of millions were silent or condemned without getting up from the couch! And now such heroes as You dissatisfied with president’s policies

              I.e "You" were silent or condemned not getting up from the couch, and such heroes as "I" have the audacity to express dissatisfaction with the president's policies. Such "heroes like me" should be silent or condemn without getting up from the couch?
              Quote: Homo
              Just read, Putin forward, Putin send troops, Putin occupy Kiev, etc.

              You didn’t read it from me. I am against the entry of troops. But politics must be pursued and pursued in the interests of the country, creating friendly states at its borders and supporting Russians wherever necessary. Not by introducing troops, but by providing comprehensive assistance to the militias, creating pressure (including the presence of a group of troops at the border) on the authorities in Kiev and politically opposing the West.
            5. nycsson
              nycsson 23 May 2014 14: 59
              +3
              Quote: Homo
              So why should Russia get involved in a deliberately losing event?

              Your opinion is just negative ! Sorry for being rude! In order to defend their national interests! Why are Americans fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan? Why did they bomb Yugoslavia? You have an ostrich position!
              And for you, I have an article. Read at your leisure. This is about millions of lives ....

              The destruction of the Slavic brotherhood cost us more than the Great Patriotic War

              http://rusvesna.su/news/1400826482
            6. 29261
              29261 23 May 2014 23: 01
              -2
              I completely agree! It’s only that those who never really sniffed gunpowder and never how he thinks will participate directly in the events can argue that the drafts are bare. It’s stupid! Weapons without a UN mandate are extremely unreasonable, especially since they don’t ask us directly or openly for help. Secondly, it’s easier to steal territory than to conquer our V.V. with success and doing it calmly and without rushing. Moreover, without breaking any laws. I also have a sore soul for everything that happens there, much less many of us have relatives there, but haste is needed when catching fleas and with diarrhea and, in addition, what cases. As long as our government is doing everything right and cannot be done otherwise. Unfortunately !!!
        2. nycsson
          nycsson 23 May 2014 14: 53
          +2
          Quote: Dazdranagon
          - did they surrender Ukraine?

          You have the ignition later! Two days ago they gave the order to withdraw the troops.
          1. 29261
            29261 23 May 2014 23: 10
            +1
            The flight time to the border with Square is one hour and an hour to exit with loading. Draw conclusions!
      3. Balamyt
        Balamyt 23 May 2014 12: 23
        +4
        And who said that to create a no-fly zone, our troops need to stand on the border? Not from anti-aircraft guns we, if that, then we will shoot!
        1. Normal
          Normal 23 May 2014 12: 47
          -1
          Quote: Balamyt
          And who said that to create a no-fly zone, our troops need to stand on the border?

          It is necessary to stand on the border so that the right-wingers are not impudent and Kiev were afraid. And if we withdraw the troops, it means that there is no intention to introduce a zero-voltage grid (in any case, in the near future).
          And there the elections are about to take place and the junta needs to resolve the issue with the DPR and LPR. The withdrawal of troops from the border is a signal that Russia will not intervene. The result is an escalation of the database and punitive operations in the Southeast.
          This is the case.
          And the words are lamentations about mercenaries and foreign instructors in the ranks of punishers.
          1. Artist
            Artist 23 May 2014 13: 25
            +6
            If necessary, our troops will be deployed at the border in a few hours, and front-line aviation is even less so and the Natsiks know this. So no need is in close proximity.
            1. Normal
              Normal 23 May 2014 14: 05
              +3
              Quote: Artist
              If necessary, our troops within a few hours


              Oh really?
              Within "several hours" you will only be able to load the equipment onto the car transporters.
              Then within "several hours" you will load and moor equipment on railway platforms. This is despite the fact that there are already these platforms, as well as a schedule for the movement of trains (which also requires "several hours")
              Then, within "several hours" you will move from point "A" to point "B".
              Then, within "several hours", unload and follow to the place of concentration.
              As a result, from the moment of making the decision to the readiness for commissioning, not “several hours” will pass, but possibly several days.

              Quote: Artist
              Natsik know it

              Alas, the Nazis know that we are withdrawing the equipment, and not in "a few hours" we can turn around at the border.
              Quote: Artist
              and front-line aviation even less

              Do you imagine the technology of preparing an air unit for a transfer, the transfer itself, deployment and preparation for airstrikes? Imagine how long it will take? Familiar with regulations? Are you a specialist in this field?
              Quote: Artist
              . So no need is in close proximity.

              It is located in close proximity to create psychological pressure on the enemy’s enemy’s, moral (and not only) support of the militias and political pressure on the Kiev authorities.
              1. skobars
                skobars 23 May 2014 16: 13
                +1
                EVENTS OF THE 2008 YEAR SHOWED THAT THE STRENGTHENED BATTALION GROUPING CAN BE DISPLAYED WITHIN 8 HOURS FROM THE ORDER TIME, ANYWHERE ON THE BORDER OF RUSSIA.
              2. Massik
                Massik 23 May 2014 16: 31
                0
                They rushed into all the hardships, the parts of constant readiness are given only 30 minutes to be fully ready for the march on their own, then 1-2 hours of loading on the train and the number of time on the way to the destination follow ...
      4. Asadali
        Asadali 23 May 2014 14: 38
        +2
        Maybe someone will like it, or maybe not, but here are some answers why Putin does not send troops.
        Anyone interested can post a separate topic, I couldn’t, as I understand it, I don’t have permission.

        Ukraine: the development of the crisis

        The level of analytical discussions in Runet was excellently described by political scientist Semyon Uralov: "To think that against the background of the Ukrainian crisis, only Kiev colleagues moved with their minds and turned into bloodthirsty hysterics is fundamentally wrong. There are also an incredible number of such colleagues among Moscow colleagues."

        The purpose of this material is a departure from the click call and a cold analysis of the situation in Ukraine.

        I will begin with the necessary clarifications on several emotionally important topics:

        Why there is no military intervention of the Russian Federation?

        If this text had been written a few days earlier, a significant part of it would have had to be devoted to explaining why it would be inappropriate and simply stupid to send troops to Ukraine, even after the referendum. Fortunately, the leader of the resistance in Slavinsk, Igor Strelkov, coped with this task better than I did, who in his video address very clearly described the inertia of the local population of Lugansk and Donetsk in terms of real actions to protect their interests from the junta. Anticipating the arguments about participation in the referendum, I want to say right away that a tick in the ballot is certainly cool, but not much different from the hipster-white ribbon attempts to "demolish the regime" by liking on Facebook. Because the "like" is made with a pen in the newsletter, the essence does not change. The referendum was necessary, but far from sufficient.

        How much is the Kremlin ready for events in Ukraine and how much is he improvising now?

        I advise you to read this Wikileaks telegram: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html, which shows that the Kremlin clearly indicated to the Americans the scenarios we see today in 2008: "Experts tell us that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the ethnic-Russian community against membership, could lead to a major split, involving violence or at worst, civil war. In that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to intervene ; a decision Russia does not want to have to face. " - "Experts tell us that Russia is especially concerned that a strong division of opinion in Ukraine on NATO membership, given that most ethnic Russians are against, could lead to a serious split, with the use of violence or in the worst case, a civil war In this scenario, Russia will have to choose whether to intervene or not, and Russia does not want to face such a choice. "

        It is logical to assume that such a development for the Kremlin was not a surprise and that now we are in an unpleasant but more or less elaborated scenario, something like the “plan E”.
        1. Asadali
          Asadali 23 May 2014 14: 39
          +4
          In order to understand what the Kremlin will do next, we formulate goals:

          - Prevent Ukraine joining NATO

          - Prevent the establishment and stabilization of the Russophobic regime in Ukraine, which implies denazification

          - Prevent the genocide of the Russian population of the South-East

          Ideally, the realization of all three goals is required and at the same time it is necessary not to break the Russian economy in the process of reorienting to Asia and at the same time prevent the Americans from postponing their economic end at the expense of the EU.

          How can these goals be realized?

          Let's look at the simplest scenario and see what vulnerable points and negative consequences it has:

          So, the Russian army enters Ukraine and in a few days comes to Kiev, then captures the whole of Ukraine. "Patriots" rejoice, parade on Khreshchatyk, and so on.

          It seems to have achieved all three goals, but the following problems arise:

          1. In the EU, in which the European business elites are slowly squeezing their politicians on the nail and lowering the sanctions on the brakes, the Party of War unequivocally wins (it is the United States Party). The maximum sanctions are cut in against the Russian Federation with an appalling effect primarily for the European economy, which immediately falls into recession. But nothing to rejoice.

          Against this background, Americans are easily pushing the signing of their version of The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership - a trade pact that turns the EU into an appendage of the American economy. Negotiations about him are going on right now and for the Americans the introduction of the Russian troops to Ukraine would be a great gift. Sanctions against the Russian Federation destroy the European business, and the removal of trade barriers with the United States finishes it. What we have at the exit: the EU, as if after the war, the USA, all in white, joyfully master the European markets in which they no longer have and will not have competitors, the Russian Federation is not in the best shape. Doesn't anyone feel that someone in this situation is a sucker, and that someone is clearly not the United States? By the way, the arguments about the fact that European politicians will not allow economic suicide to be taken into account should not be taken. European officials and not so capable, as practice shows.
        2. Asadali
          Asadali 23 May 2014 14: 40
          +3
          2. In addition to the fact that the Kremlin will serve Washington, you need to look at what will happen to Russia itself.

          If sanctions are cut against the Russian Federation before the gas mega-contract for 30 is signed with China, then China will be able to negotiate a price from a position of strength. In fact, from the position of blackmail.

          If sanctions are cut against the Russian Federation before an oil mega-contract is signed with Iran, through which Rosneft can control 500000 barrels of oil a day, then Iran will be able to negotiate a price from a position of strength.

          All subsequent attempts to construct something, right up to simply supplying the import we need right now, will be very, very expensive.

          If sanctions are cut before signing the treaty on the creation of a Eurasian economic space, imagine what kind of trump card Lukashenko and Nazarbayev will get in order to unscrew Putin’s hands in negotiations. A little more, and Moscow, in order to create Eurasian Economic Union, will have to pay extra for its oil.

          3. The Russian Federation will have to take the rise of the Ukrainian economy, denazify (where to get the right amount of denacifiers in dusty helmets?), Fight with compact groups of Ukrainian Nazis, which will be supported and supplied from abroad.

          In sum, it is clear that in this scenario, the United States and China greatly benefit. Russia is left with only a feeling of deep moral satisfaction, economic problems and future curses from wide Ukrainians who will be unhappy with “life under occupation”.


          How are the key points of our vulnerabilities:

          1. Gas contract with China - May-June, possibly 20-22 May

          2. Oil contract with Iran - summer

          3. Important! Elections to the European Parliament, in which Eurosceptic-allies of the Russian Federation will receive many votes. After the election, another composition of the European Commission will be assembled with which it will be much easier to work - May 25.

          4. Collection of all the necessary documents / permits / etc. for the construction of the South Stream - 16 May. done it

          This is something that can be seen with the naked eye, but there are still aspects that are very important but to which it is difficult to attach a clear timetable:

          1. The transition to settlements in rubles for energy. Oil and gas are not potatoes, there are long-term contracts that cannot be redone unilaterally, it takes a long time to replace them with new ones and change the current ones.

          2. Switching to quotes in rubles on energy prices (for trading in rubles) on Russian sites is absolutely hellish work, if only because no one has ever really done anything like this.

          3. Own payment system

          4. Preparation of import substitution or establishing work with Asian suppliers (not in emergency mode)
        3. Asadali
          Asadali 23 May 2014 14: 41
          +4
          The list can and should be continued, this is what I see, and the Kremlin has a much broader horizon.

          Now we will add interesting initiatives of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs, which is not idle. For example, Vice-minister Karasin 6 May was in Doha and met with the entire Qatari elite. The results, for my taste, were shocking. According to the Foreign Ministry, the Qatari emir said that he appreciates the "convincing and consistent regional policy of the Russian Federation", which is very unexpected for a country that seems to be an ally of the United States and 100% opponent of the Russian Federation in Syria. In my opinion, the casket opens simply and the fact is that American dreams of pouring the whole world with cheap gas are a death sentence for Qatar. Without ultrahigh gas prices, Qatar does not just lose hope of regional greatness, but becomes a corpse. Doha focuses quickly and begins to offer something interesting: “At the same time, emphasis was placed on accelerating coordination within the framework of the Gas Exporting Countries Forum (GECF)”, the next summit of which (that's a coincidence!) Will be held in Qatar. The Gas Exporting Countries Forum is an organization which includes such countries as Russia, Iran, Qatar, Venezuela, Bolivia and other exporters and which the Kremlin has been trying to turn into a gas analogue of OPEC for a long time, but without success. It is possible that now is the high point for a potential gas cartel. For the first time, the three main gas exporters: Russia, Qatar, Iran have very similar interests and may well work on one side of the barricades in order to divide and "take over the gills" of the LNG market and the pipe gas market. Such a gas cartel, even in a truncated format (only Russia, Qatar, Iran) will control at least 55% of world gas reserves and have serious opportunities to greatly influence the energy markets of the EU and Asia. Of course, such a project will have many problems, it will meet with opposition, no one guarantees that everything will work out, but it is important to see that Moscow is actively looking for opportunities to gain additional strategic advantages in the fight against the United States.

          I hope it is now clear what the Kremlin is wasting the time it is trying to win in Ukraine and why this is important.

          Let us return to the tasks related directly to Ukraine and we note that even the implementation of all important foreign policy projects would not help to denazify Kiev and make Russian troops or the insurgent army of Novorossia wait with bread and salt, at least in the central regions. If the army of Novorossia has problems with mobilization in Lugansk and Donetsk, then working with more zombie regions will be very, very difficult. However, it appears that on the side of the Russian Federation, Colonel Golod and the special unit Hyperok (“Hyperinflation”) will soon enter the field, which will drastically change the balance of forces.
        4. Asadali
          Asadali 23 May 2014 14: 42
          +4
          Ukrainian economy - the end. Taking into account the failed spring sowing, destroyed crops of vegetables (freezing), lack of credits, problems with gas, a jump in prices for fuel and lubricants, we can safely say that the northern animal will come to the economy, which will be full and fluffy. Nobody will give money to the junta, and even from the IMF, which promised something about 17 billion dollars (exactly 50% of what Ukraine needs for this year), an “excuse” is built into the contract: if Kiev does not control all the regions, then Kiev does not get a cent. Hunger, cold and hyperinflation (caused by the collapse of the hryvnia) will actively work to weaken the junta and to repress the brains of broad Ukrainians. They certainly will not love Russia, but this is not necessary. It is necessary that the period of Yanukovych they remembered as a sweet, unattainable dream. The inevitable chaos and the complete collapse of social structures, coupled with the sluggish civil war, ensures that Ukraine will not be taken to NATO, for Europe will “lie on the rails,” and even in the United States, more or less moderate politicians will not take a step that obviously will not lead to the US victory, and to the country being drawn into a nuclear war.

          Moreover, in the conditions of a total economic collapse, the miners, metallurgists and other comrades who are tightly glued to their jobs now for fear of losing them and in the hope of "waiting all over the house" will no longer have this opportunity. They will have to participate, in one format or another, in solving the political and economic problems of New Russia. Most likely, you will have to participate with weapons in your hands.

          At the same time, the junta them. Poroshenko will be the strongest incentive to negotiate with Moscow, to make concessions, to offer compromises. In this direction, Poroshenko will push the new European Commission, which will need peace in the east and stable gas transit. In the same direction Poroshenko will push social explosions caused by Colonel Golod and saboteur Hypercom.

          All these factors, in sum, open up great opportunities for the Kremlin to reformat the former Ukraine into something in the interests of the Russian Federation. It is this scenario that the States are trying to avoid and it is because of it that they have serious motives to rush in order to put the conflict into a hot phase with the use of troops and large-scale bloodshed.

          If you add up the time that is needed for actions of hunger and the time needed for solving foreign policy tasks in terms of establishing work with China, Iran, getting rid of the dollar, import substitution, etc. (very approximately), you can come to the conclusion that you need 5-9 months ( that same December, which Yanukovych tried to reach an agreement) to ensure the solution of Ukrainian and other issues with the maximum advantage of Russia. For this period, it is necessary to ensure at least the preservation of Ukraine in a state of civil war (that is, support for the DPR, the LPR, but Kiev should not be taken too quickly so as not to create unnecessary problems), and ideally combine a civil war with protracted and viscous negotiations. within Ukraine, with the participation of international observers, something like the 2 + 4 format, i.e. Poroshenko, Tsarev + RF, EU, OSCE, USA.
          1. skobars
            skobars 23 May 2014 16: 21
            0
            IT IS SIMPLIFIED, IF IT WILL BE, THEN RUSSIA IS UNIQUENLY IN THE WIN.
        5. Asadali
          Asadali 23 May 2014 14: 42
          +5
          Finishing touch. In recent months, the United States has greatly slowed down the work of its printing press, reducing the "infusion of money" (especially simplifying the wording) from 85 to 55 billions of dollars a month. Many people expect (for example http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/27/us-usa-fed-idUSBREA3Q08920140427) that the machine is completely turned off by the end of this year. Again that same December. This is due to the fact that the dollar, although the main international currency, but to print it endlessly - it is impossible. According to various estimates, America almost completely used the “resource of durability” of the dollar, which allowed naughty with the machine. Moreover, the collateral and inescapable effect of such tricks is to underestimate the rates on US bonds, which, on the one hand, helps Washington pay less on debts, but on the other hand, it actually stifles the entire American pension and insurance system, which are built on expectation of completely different returns from their portfolios. bonds. Roughly speaking, by the end of the year, the United States will have the choice to blow up its social system in order to print further, or to greatly reduce its appetites in order to save at least some chance of stabilization at home. Judging by the reduction in the number of dollars being thrown into the system, Washington decided that preventing an explosion at home is more important than foreign policy ambitions.

          Now, putting the puzzle together finally, we get the forecast:

          - America will try with all its might to exacerbate the crisis in Ukraine in order to weaken the Russian Federation and put the entire European market under itself before it has to turn off its printing press.

          - The Kremlin will try to translate the crisis in Ukraine from the acute phase into the chronic - civil war plus sluggish negotiations against the background of Ukraine’s economic collapse. At the same time, the Kremlin will use the time in order to create the most comfortable conditions for moving into a phase of acute confrontation with the United States - getting rid of the dollar, working with China, Iran, Qatar, creating the Eurasian Union, etc.

          - The full end of the crisis - December 2014, perhaps earlier if the US stops trying to exacerbate.

          http://politrussia.ru/politkasha/ukraina-razvitie-krizisa/
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 23 May 2014 16: 28
            0
            Thanks Asadali! Great stuff. I haven’t read anything like this for a long time. Thanks again.
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 23 May 2014 17: 43
              0
              This article was on 3 days ago. The article is certainly excellent, but you could just throw a link to it.
      5. nycsson
        nycsson 23 May 2014 14: 52
        +1
        Quote: Normal
        Either he cannot, or he does not want to.

        Hello! It can’t. His degree of freedom is not that!
        1. Normal
          Normal 23 May 2014 15: 12
          +1
          Quote: nycsson
          Hello! It can’t. His degree of freedom is not that!


          Wow! The day is clear - it cannot, but does it want to? Question...
    2. Sid.74
      Sid.74 23 May 2014 12: 12
      +4
      “According to reliable data we have, dozens of foreign military mercenaries, including Americans, are taking part in the hostilities in the south-east of Ukraine on the side of the Kiev authorities,” he said.
      Come on???? belayThey only talk about this for a couple of months! I would like to be surprised for a good one, but something doesn’t surprise anything!
      1. thinker
        thinker 23 May 2014 12: 23
        +4
        I agree! This application lacks photos, videos, and interrogation protocols good
      2. Rock2
        Rock2 23 May 2014 12: 36
        +3
        Do not scold him. He only found out about it today. Utorm news looked ...
    3. Rock2
      Rock2 23 May 2014 12: 26
      +3
      What for? If on helicopters to draw the distinctive signs of the Ukrainian Air Force, then you can shoot the columns of the national guard. And then say, these are not good Ukrainian pilots ...
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 23 May 2014 12: 27
      +6
      The people are a small repost, but here Bandera is in mourning on the Censor ....
      The bulk erupted from the ambush of terrorists. Wounded 50% of the personnel, many lost a lot of blood.


      This was announced by the commander of the territorial defense battalion of the Donetsk region "Donbass" Semyon Semenchenko on his Facebook page, reports Censor.NET.

      "The main mass broke through. 50% of the personnel were wounded, many lost a lot of blood. The wounded were taken to the army block post in Krasnoarmeysk. Telephone communication was maintained with the surrounded group, which sat in the building until that moment. It was just reported that the connection was interrupted. fighters run out of cartridges. There is no way to approach them - snipers are working. We need an armored personnel carrier to drive up to the building and take out the guys. We cannot go further than the gas station, "he wrote. Source: http://censor.net.ua/n286576 Source: http://censor.net.ua/n286576

      The militias are still silent, does anyone have info from a human source?
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 23 May 2014 12: 46
        +6
        Greetings, Alexander! hi
        http://censor.net.ua/n286576 Источник: http://censor.net.ua/n286576[/quote]
        [Quote]Ukrainian army ignored calls for help from the Donbass battalion

        In the area of ​​the village of Karlovka in the Donetsk region, the Ukrainian Nazi battalion Donbass was ambushed by a militia and accepted the battle. However, he did not wait for a reaction from the Ukrainian military to desperate calls for help.

        The commander of the "volunteer territorial defense battalion" of the Donetsk region "Donbass" Semen Semenchenko complained about this on his Facebook page.

        “Transmitted by telephone from Semen Semenchenko. Just in the area with. Karlovka, Donetsk region, the Donbass battalion was ambushed. He took the fight. Against the battalion are machine gunners, snipers and RPGs. There are wounded. We can’t move away, because some people are surrounded. We ask for help from nearby military units, ”reads the entry on Semenchenko’s page.

        “To the place of battle with. Karlovka, Donetsk region, was approached by an armored personnel carrier of separatists, large-caliber machine guns were pulled up, they were thrown with grenades. At 15 km towards Krasnoarmeysk there is a Ukrainian army block post with 4 armored personnel carriers. Give, with ..., armored personnel carrier! We can’t approach our comrades, they are working as a sniper. All my phone calls to the army command with a request to send reinforcements were not heard. 9 of the wounded were taken to the hospital, ”added Semenchenko a bit later on Facebook.

        Recall, on May 21, a statement circulated by DonOGA passed that in Dobropolie, Dobropolsky, Aleksandrovsky, Velikonovoselkovsky districts of Donetsk region, the special battalion of Nazi thugs "Donbass" allegedly completely took control of the administrative building and the adjacent territory.
        We also recall that yesterday Nazi militants from the specified battalion shot Ukrainian soldiers who refused to shoot at the civilian population. Following the execution of 8 soldiers killed, more than 30 are in hospitals with severe injuries.
        http://antifashist.com/item/ukrainskaya-armiya-proignorirovala-prizyvy-o-podmoge

        -ot-batalona-donbass.html [/ quote]
    5. g1v2
      g1v2 23 May 2014 12: 29
      +1
      What will it give ? A couple of attack aircraft and 2-3 helicopters fly around ukrov, which do nothing sensible, because they are afraid that they will be shot down, too, as near Slavyansk. Sooner or later, these vents will bring down. Aviation there does not decide now.
    6. armageddon
      armageddon 23 May 2014 12: 33
      +6
      Calm down! DO NOT drive a wave !!! Everything has its time...
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    8. sub307
      sub307 23 May 2014 12: 34
      +2
      And, I don't understand: why did Gerasimov make THIS "statement" at all. Everything that happens did not begin today. So, once again state the fact. The fact that "we" (together with Gerasimov) do not like THIS seems obvious. It would be better to say that he (respectively, Russia) intends to do with all this. The war is already developing with might and main, but all statements are being produced.
      1. sub307
        sub307 23 May 2014 12: 41
        +1
        Gathered "political correctness", and "watch, do not croak", withdraw the troops, and so on. And, on the mercenaries, what is now "offended", they, as you know, for the conduct of hostilities in specific conditions and "bunched together." They have no need to observe "political correctness", they are "private traders" (almost).
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    10. yushch
      yushch 23 May 2014 12: 38
      +1
      Without a flight zone, the UN Security Council is introduced, and there we will not be allowed to carry out such a resolution. Yes, and what will they fly on? At ukrarmii aviation only two times and miscalculated.
    11. Hammer
      Hammer 23 May 2014 13: 33
      +4
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      ... - I’m wondering why Putin will not introduce at least a no-fly zone over the DPR and LPR ...


      everything has its time ... do not rush things.
      until there is a situation for Russia's intervention in the internal conflict in Ukraine. As valuable as it may sound, but until blood flows like a river (with hundreds and thousands of victims of civilians), the VVP will not give the FAS command to its security officials. And in my opinion he is doing the right thing.
      Because the price of such a step is not only the life of Russians in Ukraine and the lives of our soldiers, who will, at the cost of their blood, pacify the junta. At stake, ultimately, is the fate of all of Russia. And this is without unnecessary pathos.
      All this ambitious provocation in Ukraine was started by mattresses with one global goal - to isolate Russia from the world community politically and most importantly economically. To knock out the economic soil of the well-being of citizens from under Russia, thereby creating conditions for the growth of social and political tension within the country. And ultimately tear the country to shreds by staging yet another color revolution.
      And for this, at this stage, it is necessary at all costs to pull Russia into the Ukrainian conflict, exposing it as an aggressor. If the GDP is now led by this pindosov ploy, and intervenes right now, then this will ultimately become a fatal mistake for the country.
      WWP intervenes in the conflict only as a defender. And for this, a lot of civilian blood should be shed. Really big blood. This is of course cynicism and without humanity towards the Russians in Ukraine, but politics in general is in itself dirty and without a humane thing. And do not forget that the GDP is obliged to think not only about 6 million Russian-speakers in the southeast of Ukraine, but also about 150 million citizens of their country, whose fate also depends on its decisions.
      And in order to facilitate the decision of GDP on this issue, the southeast must stand up as one to protect its land, its families, its houses. And then everyone is waiting for Putin, and Strelkov cries that no one there wants to fight for themselves. If the whole of Donbas, Lugansk, rises, then the Russian army will not work there. And how to help those who stand up for their defense, the GDP finds, rest assured.
      After all, in the southeast, the choice is simple - either stand up to your full height, or become a "sheep to the slaughter" for world fascism (which is the Aglo-Saxon elite) and wait for the situation to reach a stage where Russia can intervene ...
  2. mr.Man
    mr.Man 23 May 2014 12: 07
    +23
    "Obama calls Kerry:
    - Are you ready for sanctions on Russia regarding the presence of their troops near the Ukrainian border?
    Kerry:
    - Yes, sir.
    Obama:
    - Run.
    Kerry:
    “So they sent the troops away.”
    Obama falls dejectedly into a chair:
    - What are they doing, you bastards ... "
    1. Andrey from Tver
      Andrey from Tver 23 May 2014 12: 21
      +11
      Quote: mr.Man
      - What are they doing, you bastards ... "
      1. Renat
        Renat 23 May 2014 12: 57
        +4
        Cool ... That iPhone came in handy.
  3. Giant thought
    Giant thought 23 May 2014 12: 09
    +15
    Do not take foreign mercenaries into captivity, send his scalp to his homeland.
    1. Duke
      Duke 23 May 2014 12: 14
      +2
      Quote: Thought Giant
      Do not take foreign mercenaries into captivity, send his scalp to his homeland.

      That's where the unidentified corpses come from.
    2. mamont5
      mamont5 23 May 2014 12: 15
      +7
      Quote: Giant thought
      Do not take foreign mercenaries into captivity, send his scalp to his homeland.


      No, let them tell you first. Who! Where from? What for? And then you can at least in a meat grinder.
    3. pensioner
      pensioner 23 May 2014 12: 17
      +6
      Quote: Thought Giant
      Do not take foreign mercenaries into captivity, send his scalp to his homeland.

      They said that somewhere in the Middle East, the relatives of one dude who took part in the taking of our diplomats hostage, our "special comrades" sent by mail not his scalp, but carefully packed male accessories of this relative. The effect of this premise was said to be almost instantaneous and very positive. I don’t know what they did to my comrade ...
    4. ran nearby
      ran nearby 23 May 2014 12: 45
      0
      On the contrary - it is necessary to catch as much as possible and amputating hands, send to the Russian Federation. Let them tell them they are in the Donbass
    5. ksv500
      ksv500 23 May 2014 14: 44
      0
      Gerasimov just will not say that! The data are reliable, so soon Baidon’s friend, a CIA agent who disappeared along with 19 mercenaries in early May, will talk about Russian hospitality and awareness of his wrong actions lol
  4. aleks_29296
    aleks_29296 23 May 2014 12: 16
    +12
    Now there are a lot of comments about the fact that Southeast Russia has begun to slowly merge.
    But commenting is one thing, and making strategic decisions is another. Yes, many have a sore soul looking at what is happening in the Donbass, but do not forget that it is easy to wave a saber, and what next?
    Putin is a wise politician and his silence now confuses all the cards of those who brewed this porridge.
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    2. 97110
      97110 23 May 2014 12: 25
      +2
      Well, not really silence. When he held a glass in his hand with the Chinese, in my opinion, it was very loud.
    3. Evgen_Vasilich
      Evgen_Vasilich 23 May 2014 12: 34
      0
      with KNP company commander, everything is not seen as with the CP divisional ....
      wait for my mom?
      wait for your mother! (from)
  5. Igor_kh
    Igor_kh 23 May 2014 12: 16
    -2
    it would be better what kind of wiretap on the Internet was posted than just statements to declare
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    2. 97110
      97110 23 May 2014 12: 28
      +2
      Minus is mine. You have to do everything. And the thought "... it would be better to put something on the Internet" is unusually productive, but has nothing to do with his work
  6. Per se.
    Per se. 23 May 2014 12: 17
    +1
    According to ITAR-TASS, the chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov said that the Kiev authorities did not hesitate to use foreign mercenaries during a military operation in southeastern Ukraine.
    Valery Vasilievich did not discover America here, the question is different, who prevents us from openly helping the southeast in a similar or other way? It is also necessary to help democracy fight for freedom (the United States seems to have it every time), fight against the unitary, self-proclaimed regime of the Kiev junta, and there’s nothing to be embarrassed about, the Yankees are not embarrassed to help outright scumbags, we must help decent people, those who are for Russia.
    1. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 23 May 2014 13: 01
      +1
      I think that V. Putin does this because we are one in the USSR, now, however much we are a single people, politically officially we are different. And in order to help a neighboring state, it is necessary that this state itself have the will to resist, as in Spain in 1936.
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 23 May 2014 13: 27
        +2
        Quote: Mareman Vasilich
        And in order to help a neighboring state, it is necessary that this state itself have the will to resist, as in Spain in 1936.
        Let it be so, Vasilich, but did the same Donetsk People's Republic, their popular referendum, have not demonstrated this very will? Didn't the unarmed pensioners who blocked the way for the Kiev warriors with their bare hands, did not demonstrate this will, now those men who sacrifice their lives fighting better armed units do not demonstrate this will? Finally, does Russia recognize the Kiev government, does it not call it a junta? It seems that Putin is not the only thing here, we have a lot of those (including those in power) who keep their "back-breaking labor" not in rubles, and not in Russian banks, they are dependent on the United States ... Spain was far away, Kievskaya Russia is nearby, this is not alien, the land is Russian, it is not the Banderaites who should be in charge there, and not the American henchmen.
        1. Dyagilev
          Dyagilev 23 May 2014 14: 28
          0
          I will add. The "will" of the Bandera people was "brought up" by the Western special services for more than a dozen years, including, no matter how funny it looked from the outside - jumping with well-known slogans, these were just sessions of psycho-zombification of the population according to all canons based on hatred of "yam" and racial superiority. The will of eastern Ukraine is based on the instinct of self-preservation. However, the danger is not obvious for everyone, and the value system of all the warring parties is the same as, by the way, it is with us, with the notable exception of a more conservative attitude towards LGBT. Therefore, there is essentially nowhere for the will to take. now the crisis and the economy is in decline. Or maybe the sanctions worked.
    2. xtur
      xtur 23 May 2014 14: 46
      0
      > who prevents us from openly providing assistance to the southeast in a similar way or otherwise?

      May 25th European Parliament elections throughout Europe. Eurosceptics await victory. If troops are now deployed, then this victory will be in question, and after May 25, troops are likely to be deployed - kmk
  7. Arsenal
    Arsenal 23 May 2014 12: 18
    +1
    “According to reliable data we have, dozens of foreign military mercenaries, including Americans, are taking part in the hostilities in the south-east of Ukraine on the side of the Kiev authorities,” he said.

    Earlier, the militia of the Southeast, reported the destruction of a certain number of foreign mercenaries.
    From various Western organizations recruiting (mercenaries). There was a listing of these firms.
    So, the question begs! Give video confirmation of this in the media (bodies, documents, etc.).
    For the time being, they are limited only to assumptions and statements about this.
    Not entirely clear, all of this.
  8. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 23 May 2014 12: 20
    0
    Kiev authorities do not hesitate to use foreign mercenaries during a military operation in the south-east of Ukraine.

    In general, the whole rabble around the world is collected only to remain in power .. (she is a junta in the junta in Africa) ..
  9. vladstro
    vladstro 23 May 2014 12: 20
    +2
    It would be nice to catch at least one mercenary, and let him tell the whole world on camera why he came to Ukraine, and who gave the orders, and in order to lie, he did not try to poke his gay-European shil in the ass from time to time. Then both Lavrov and Churkin will have a good trump card in negotiations with our "partners". And then we'll see how the saki-psaki will deny.
  10. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 23 May 2014 12: 20
    +3
    On the news it was just said that Polish female snipers are on the side of the mercenaries. Interestingly, they are so scary "on the face" that they could not earn in Europe "in a standard way", or what? (well, yes, less earnings, but it would not be so risky ...)
  11. 97110
    97110 23 May 2014 12: 20
    +2
    / quote] - I’m wondering why Putin will not introduce at least a no-fly zone over the DPR and LPR ... [/ quote]
    And ask yourself why Yus will not introduce such in Syria.
  12. Unknown
    Unknown 23 May 2014 12: 20
    +1
    EEEEEEhhhhhhh ..... take a stake aspen and put all this junta on him !! am
  13. gfhjkm
    gfhjkm 23 May 2014 12: 21
    +9
    urgently! punishers in an environment sang about a zoner
    The commander of the punitive battalion Yarosh, formed from Donbass right-wing nationalist fighters, Semen Semenchenko put an ultimatum on his Facebook page:

    “By phone from Semyon Semenchenko.

    I appeal to separators from the Vostok battalion! We need a parliamentarian to exchange prisoners. Get in touch by phone 0501482373

    To Colorado reading my facebook: pass it on to yours! If something happens to our people, there will be terror in the city itself! ”

    Earlier, he said: “The bulk of the fighters of the Donbass squad broke through. Wounded 50% of the personnel, many lost a lot of blood. The wounded were taken to the army checkpoint of Krasnoarmeysk.

    With a surrounded group that sat in the building until this minute, telephone communications were maintained. Just reported that the connection was interrupted. Fighters run out of ammo. There is no way to approach them - snipers work. An APC is needed to drive up to the building and take the guys out. We cannot go further than the gas station, ”he wrote.

    The battalion commander said that security was put up near the hospital with the wounded, the surviving military were returning. In the surrounded group, almost everyone is injured.

    “I am sure that the route of our movement was known in advance. Since such a concentration at ordinary checkpoints, separatists are usually not observed. Well trained Chechen troops are working against us, ”Semenchenko wrote.

    The commander of the battalion "Donbass" stressed that the leadership of the ATO and the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is aware of the situation, and once again expressed a request for help and armored personnel carriers, which was never provided.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 23 May 2014 12: 25
      +12
      Quote: gfhjkm
      With a surrounded group that sat in the building until this minute, telephone communication was maintained. Just reported that the connection was interrupted. Fighters run out of ammo. There is no way to approach them - snipers work. An APC is needed to drive up to the building and take the guys out. We cannot go further than the gas station ”

      Here is the first time in my life reading such words I feel a sense of deep satisfaction.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 23 May 2014 12: 31
        +7
        Quote: retired
        Here is the first time in my life reading such words I feel a sense of satisfaction.

        Hi Yuri! I feel the same thing ... I don’t feel sorry for such scum .. It’s not for them to burn tires and unarmed Golden eagle! Well done militia great operation!
    2. zao74
      zao74 23 May 2014 12: 34
      +5
      This one ... parted from fear. The Chechens began to imagine.
    3. Rock2
      Rock2 23 May 2014 12: 48
      +1
      Fig them, not an armored troop carrier! Let them be!
    4. aleks 62
      aleks 62 23 May 2014 12: 53
      +4
      .... All of them Chechens seem to be imagined ... Apparently very afraid ...
  14. jovanni
    jovanni 23 May 2014 12: 23
    0
    "... Chief of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces Valery Gerasimov said ..."

    How would it ... In short, I would like to hope that the chief of the General Staff is beating bread from the spokesperson without prejudice to his direct duties ...
  15. Vlad Gore
    Vlad Gore 23 May 2014 12: 24
    +1
    Bandera-fascists do not disdain anything. "Right Sector" point-blank shot 30 of its fellow soldiers - fighters of the National Guard of Ukraine for refusing to kill civilians in the village of Novodruzhkovka, who stopped enemy tanks and armored personnel carriers on Thursday, "- said at a press conference on Friday night, May 23, the commander of one of detachments of the "United Army of the South-East" Ostap Cherny. [media = http: //cdn.static4.rtr-vesti.ru/p/m_950755.jpg]
  16. Orik
    Orik 23 May 2014 12: 24
    +5
    Well?! So it was in Bosnia, at first poorly armed and trained militia units fought on both sides, then Milosevic surrendered the Bosnian Serbs, and the Croats received help, instructors, and mercenaries. The result is known "if shame is chosen between war and shame, then they get both WAR AND SHAME! Milosevic's example confirms this.
  17. 3vs
    3vs 23 May 2014 12: 29
    +5
    If only a dead imported mercenary with documents showed a photo or video.
    Or they took a living prisoner.
    Then it would be better than sticking a chocolate president into the nose of the whole European
    institutes.
    And so far, so far only words.
    1. klaus16
      klaus16 23 May 2014 14: 03
      +1
      And he will say: this is not an American, but if he is an American, then he has the freedom to choose where to come to him privately. And if he started to fight, then for the weak offended. Here's how the black will react.
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  18. 97110
    97110 23 May 2014 12: 32
    -1
    [quote = Per se.] [quote] the question is different, who prevents us from openly helping the southeast in this or another way? [/ quote] Indeed, a huge question - who is stopping us? Yes, these Greek horses not only do not bother us, they will be very grateful, even they can award you a prize for good work in favor of USA /
    1. nizrum
      nizrum 23 May 2014 12: 52
      0
      I suspect there is an agreement ... We do not show them, they do not show us request
  19. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 23 May 2014 12: 34
    0
    This is not news, it’s all tasted like fertilizer for the Russian land, they are not different from the punishments of NG, PS ,,!
  20. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 23 May 2014 12: 36
    +5
    "Welcome" to the South-East ..! This is not Africa or the Maidan .. soldier
  21. Yugra
    Yugra 23 May 2014 12: 37
    +2
    It’s time for the Kadyrovites to appear in Donetsk as well. To shoot a dozen or two Polish mercenaries and send their heads to Warsaw
    1. Akvadra
      Akvadra 23 May 2014 12: 56
      +1
      At all times, people shedding their own and other people's blood for the sake of profit, were treated with contempt and hatred. Even prostitutes and drug dealers are less despised than dogs of war. Therefore, the absence of prisoners of this category is not surprising. And if there is, then I hope we will see soon.

      д
  22. soyuz-nik
    soyuz-nik 23 May 2014 12: 43
    +3
    Good health, I wish! hi

    I think that VVP, due to its professional training, is more likely not a "saboteur", but a "saboteur".

    No matter how many supporters of the introduction of a limited contingent, and no matter how much we would not like it, it is unlikely that the GDP will be used to send troops in the current situation. I admit that some power actions may follow under EXCLUSIVE circumstances, but there are none so far ....

    If the main thing for the Russian Federation is to stand for the truth, then, as, for example, in Ossetia, for real official actions, a JUSTIFICATION is necessary. In Ossetia, such a justification was a number of factors (the official peacekeeping mission of the Russian Federation, the use of "Grad" by the "genatsvals" against the civilian population, etc.). As for the Ukrainian issue, there are no such EXPRESS justifications at this time. In this connection, the introduction of at least one combat unit into the territory of dill will be perceived and replicated as an invasion of the "bloody Putin regime."

    I agree that truth MUST be with fists and teeth ... There can be no toothless truth ....

    IMHO, this is the power of GDP, that it can explain to any crowd that "tyr-pyr, 8 holes" - both in terms of concepts, and in historical examples, and to substantiate for the current moment.

    Now, if drones with unidentified signs of belonging would fly over dill ... now it would be ridiculous: quietly, silently, without screeching and dusting at night they tracked, worked out, retired ... into the forests of Luhansk ...

    Well, it goes without saying that it is mandatory to support the LPR and the DPR on the mate, which would give morale to the local militias and then they would come in their ranks ...

    If we manage to heap the neo-nachtigals and yarosh-yugendu a couple of times, then the rest of the Ukrop Armed Forces will scream nicht shlissen! .... well, and with them the "wild geese" will dissolve like fog .....
  23. old man 72
    old man 72 23 May 2014 12: 45
    0
    Words-words who will believe in them! But in order to be believed in them, we need strong evidence in the form of photographs and filming from the places of events and participants in these events, but this is difficult to do because such information is not disseminated in the West and in the USA, and if it is missed, it is simply distorted misinterpreted.
    1. Massik
      Massik 23 May 2014 16: 40
      0
      , in the form of photographs and filming from places of events and participants in these events.
      This is certainly a good thing, but the reason is much simpler, even in a weak firefight it is unrealistic to shoot something definite (there are "ours", but "fighters") and not to catch a bullet since both sides are much more interested in the result than in true coverage events ...
  24. Valkh
    Valkh 23 May 2014 12: 50
    0
    It's time to catch Kalomoisky already !!! Walking soap with a shower !!!
  25. gandalf
    gandalf 23 May 2014 12: 58
    +2
    If the General Staff approves officially, then there is evidence ...
  26. voveim
    voveim 23 May 2014 13: 22
    +2
    They said that somewhere in the Middle East, the relatives of one dude who took part in the taking of our diplomats hostage, our "special comrades" sent by mail not his scalp, but carefully packed male accessories of this relative. The effect of this premise was said to be almost instantaneous and very positive. I don’t know what they did to my comrade ...

    And the then CIA Director William Casey, they say, spoke about this story as follows: "The Soviets know how to talk to such ubl.yudokami ..."
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 23 May 2014 14: 16
      +1
      In Lebanon, it’s not a member, but the head of not an outside relative, but one of the participants, who was a relative of the sheikh.
  27. saag
    saag 23 May 2014 13: 42
    +1
    Quote: Dazdranagon
    why Putin will not introduce at least a no-fly zone

    it’s not necessary to contact him, but to Strelkov, this one will definitely help, he did it over his Slavyansk in a couple of days
  28. cup
    cup 23 May 2014 14: 01
    0
    Is there at least one living mercenary captured? to show it to the whole world. with documents as expected. communication through a translator, etc. In the meantime, it’s just not justified facts that much can be said. and when he talks live on TV who he is, it’s different.
  29. sv68
    sv68 23 May 2014 14: 13
    0
    America is such a place across the ocean and Obama's banana-eaters live there in a runaway home. wassat I just discovered America too. about this news the fishermen buzzed everywhere for a week ... in short, you need to catch a couple of pieces alive, show the world, and shoot
  30. Aleksandr68
    Aleksandr68 23 May 2014 15: 03
    0
    it seems that the article is a month and a half old. What's new in it?
  31. zilberg69
    zilberg69 23 May 2014 15: 33
    +1
    ASKED CROSSING IN SOCIAL NETWORKS:

    RUSSIAN SPRING (ANTIMAYDAN)

    13:06. Today
    DON'T PUT A CLASS, TRANSFER IN ALL COMMENTS !!!
    SELF-DEFENSE Militants go to DONETSK.
    OURS WENT OUT TO BLOCK THE POSTS BECAUSE THE SCABY DOES NOT COLLECT IN THE SOUTH-EAST.
    ARMED SILOVIKS GOED BY ORDER OF TYMOSHENKO.
    MAY FROM YOU FAST INFORMATION WILL REACH THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION !!!!!! THANK!!!!!!!

    PLEASE, AMONG THE RESIDENTS OF RUSSIA. FOR US THIS IS NOW, REALLY, IMPORTANT!

    URGENT:: RESIDENTS OF KHARKOV, DONETSK AND LUGANS!
    BUSES ARE GOING FROM KIEV !!!! BLOCK ROADS !!!!!!

    ASKING CROSSING IN SOCIAL NETWORKS.

    DO NOT BECOME A CLASS !!!

    COPY THIS MESSAGE AND POST IN COMMENTS
  32. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 23 May 2014 15: 43
    0
    And 3.14ndostan with a geyropa to the stars! They are ssy in the eye - God's dew!
  33. Ustian
    Ustian 23 May 2014 15: 55
    -1
    It is correct that Putin does not bring in troops. Let this "folk" first taste
    life with your children in the prasechny state. And then don’t whine, save Putin ... http: //news.bigmir.net/ukraine/817321-Zhiteli-Kramatorska-progonjaj
    ut-bo
    evikov - video-? p = 8 & sort = DESC Residents of Krematorsk.
  34. drujba
    drujba 23 May 2014 22: 38
    0
    Putin is a strategist, he knows what he is doing. wink