Militiamen LC repulsed five infantry fighting vehicles under Lisichansk

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According to RIA "News", during the battle near the village of Rubezhnoye near Lisichansk, seven militiamen were killed, another 16 were injured.

“In the morning, the battle began at ten past five. Previously, we swore at the National Guard checkpoint not to enter the city and not to start shooting. They did not keep their word ", - quotes the words of the militia named Alexander "RT in Russian".

“The fight began between Rubizhny and Novodruzhenka. I was not at the front line, but judging by the sounds, these were guns, RPGs, mortars and infantry fighting vehicles, not counting the automatic bursts and sniper rifles. It began in the morning, it seemed to the 11 clock that the column went to the city, but we dumped the trees and blocked their path. They had a hopeless situation, and they went to the negotiations, ”added the militia.

According to him, the military was ready to lay down weapon. “Most of the soldiers handed over ammunition and surrendered ammunition, and were ready to retire to the roadblock. We were ready to give them a bus. Armored vehicles, we had to put on the territory of a military unit. In principle, it was possible to put together with drivers, with a full set of soldiers. We were ready to put on contentment and offered tempting conditions, ”he said.

However, the commander of the soldiers prevented them from going over to the side of the militias.
“They had an old commander, a captain named Andrei. He opened fire on them, both on the soldiers and the so-called peaceful onlookers. A second fight ensued. The National Guard forces pulled up from the roadblock, fired at the railway station and the battle slowly moved along the floodplain of the Seversky Donets towards Kremennaya. It got Novodruzhenka, once a helicopter flew in, a volley was fired from it. Then they calmed down, ”Alexander said.

According to the militia, they captured four infantry fighting vehicles. “Five BMPs were repulsed. Then one had to burn. There are four of them left, on the move and efficient. They are with us now, ”he stressed.
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  1. +72
    23 May 2014 09: 26
    With the addition of materiel! .. Well done! good
    1. +17
      23 May 2014 09: 36
      "Tractor drivers" then the militias gather up here the main thing is to find those who know how to steer everyone else.
      1. +7
        23 May 2014 10: 39
        Found a video in the subject:
        [media = http: //vk.com/video82099297_168916697? list = 1321230fcf42203cca]
        Besides:

        09: 23 / 23.05.2014
        Near Lisichansk Ukrainian military attacked the hospital
        According to the militias of the Luhansk region, the Kiev guards, consisting of activists of the "Right Sector", shot 30 of their own colleagues the day before.

        Near Lisichansk, the Ukrainian military attacked the hospital and shot the wounded. According to the representative of the Lugansk self-defense, Ostap Cherny, this happened the day before, during armed clashes. He noted that both militiamen and the Ukrainian military were in the hospital.

        “They finished off all the wounded who were in the hospital,” says Cherny. - There were wounded and the militia ... All shot. Militiamen hid civilians to punitive they were not found. And the military was in the hospital. All shot.

        http://lifenews.ru/news/133693
    2. +22
      23 May 2014 09: 39
      Another month of hostilities, dill will be left without armored vehicles, the DPR will have a mechanized army. It would be necessary to capture more helicopters. Then it will be possible to go to Kiev with the war of liberation.
      1. +14
        23 May 2014 09: 56
        It’s not necessary, otherwise they will call them the payoffs. Kiev (the people of Kiev) must itself decide whether there is a place for him in Bandera dill or he is "the mother of Russian cities." But if they ask for help in liberation, then you can move the tanks.
        1. I am proud of Russia
          +9
          23 May 2014 10: 19
          I do not agree, dill as a passive peder ... Art, goes where it leads.
        2. vlum
          +5
          23 May 2014 10: 21
          Banderlog fucking from the MLRS and Novorossia will have no choice but to beat the APU and the Nazi Guard from their SS to the last.
        3. +6
          23 May 2014 10: 42
          Quote: EvgenSuslov
          then you can move the tanks

          Tanks are good, they just keep silent about something else: if I’m not mistaken, then Rubezhnoye is a decent-sized chemical production (there, at one time, comrade passed practical training from LHTI). Now, if at least dill is beaten on it, at least the militia (or their assistants) will crash another accident in Indian Bhopal. It will not seem to anyone.
          1. +2
            23 May 2014 17: 51
            Dill, they can easily bomb this chemistry, they do not care if they only pay the loot. They killed their wounded!
    3. +12
      23 May 2014 09: 56
      Urgent repost! It may have already appeared. Natsikov is extinguished by his own helicopters near Volnovakha (DPR). I think it doesn’t need a translation. The DNI has no turntables. If you know how, then repost on foreign sites.
      1. +7
        23 May 2014 11: 36
        .... "Friendly fire" ..... :)))))))))))))))
      2. +9
        23 May 2014 11: 43
        They remembered God. My son prayed late. About what he thought when he went to fight. wassat
        1. 0
          26 May 2014 01: 29
          He carried out the order. In addition, these guys were extinguished because they did not clean up Volnovakha. They did not go over to our side, but showed their nobility. Real soldiers. Despite poor preparation and fear. Thank you soldiers! Let the earth rest in peace for the dead.
      3. 0
        25 May 2014 12: 18
        But something does not already have YouTube
    4. Alex 241
      +44
      23 May 2014 09: 58
      Quote: MIKHAN
      With the addition of materiel!
      1. +4
        23 May 2014 14: 44
        They were not stolen, but squeezed out! Purely, specifically, in the bazaar, and the demon of expansion. They wanted the boys to sign the topic, but the old bull horn rested, cut the lawlessness.
      2. 0
        23 May 2014 18: 21
        Alex, this BMP from Mariupol. The next day they burned him. Besides, with full ammunition in the middle of the avenue.
    5. 120352
      +13
      23 May 2014 09: 59
      I wish this National Guard gave five helicopters to ours ...
      1. vlum
        +6
        23 May 2014 10: 26
        They will shoot down ... And you won’t find military specialists in a helicopter.

        It flashed yesterday somewhere that not only the BMP was squeezed out of the Nazi, but the anti-aircraft gun too. Now, if there will be ammunition on it, then the turntables will stop circling. Or only at a very high altitude they will fly into reconnaissance. Against anti-aircraft guns, traps will no longer be able to shoot from MANPADS.
        1. +3
          23 May 2014 12: 16
          Quote: vlum
          Now, if there will be ammunition on it, then the turntables will stop circling.

          The gun can destroy fighters. It’s necessary to manage to knock out the drying from the anti-aircraft gun, with active maneuvering .. But the prospect is good, for example, you can load it into the KamAZ body and actively change positions ..
          1. +7
            23 May 2014 18: 21
            Quote: avia1991
            But the prospect is good, for example, you can load it into the KamAZ body, and actively change positions.
            There is an accommodation option based on BMP. In this case, a mobile lightly armored firing point is obtained, capable of quite successfully combating both aviation and infantry and lightly armored vehicles ...
            1. stechkinmakarov
              +3
              24 May 2014 23: 15
              It would be nice to install "mesh screens" on the BMP and BMD of the militia to protect equipment from cumulative grenades and shells. There is little technology, it must be protected.
        2. 0
          26 May 2014 01: 32
          Yes, they kind of stopped flying like that. Take a look at the video above. They are already only on their own scorching. To stay in shape.
    6. Djein
      +2
      23 May 2014 10: 43
      [quote = MIKHAN] MIKHAN [/ quote] With the addition of the parts [/ quote]

      Check if they cram something in them .... just in case ....... You can expect everything from them ......
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    8. +6
      23 May 2014 10: 59
      The leadership of the Lugansk People’s Republic appealed to the first persons of Russia

      .Ivan Karogodin on Thu, 22 / 05 / 2014 - 13: 15

      The head of the Lugansk People’s Republic, Valery Bolotov, appealed to President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Sergey Naryshkin and Chairman of the Council of the Federation of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation Valentina Matvienko with a request to introduce peacekeeping forces into the republic. Below is the text of the appeal.
      “Today, at 4 o'clock in the morning, according to the Nazis, as in the bloody 41 year, the Ukrainian armed forces committed an act of aggression against the civilian population of the Lugansk People’s Republic.

      In response to the appeal to the government of Ukraine demanding the immediate withdrawal of all the armed formations on our territory, the Ukrainian armed forces unleashed the bloodshed of the peaceful population of the cities and villages of the Luhansk region.

      The leadership of the Lugansk People’s Republic appeals to you with a request to bring peacekeeping troops into the territory of the Lugansk People’s Republic.

      The Russian Federation, represented by its official representatives and the people of fraternal Russia, recognized and supported the holding of a referendum on the creation of an independent republic on the territory of the former Lugansk region, the inhabitants of which used the people's natural right to self-determination. Its results were so impressive and convincing that there was no doubt - the people made their unambiguous choice.

      But the illegitimate, not recognized by the South-East of Ukraine, power in Kiev, which carried out a coup d'etat, is trying to impose its will on us with the help of overt violence. She is conducting a punitive operation against the people of the republic, supported by her western partners. Its troops, both regular and recruited from nationalist volunteers, continue to occupy part of the territory of the Luhansk People's Republic, unleashing outright terror against local residents and threatening the life of the young state. We do not have enough forces to completely expel a foreign aggressor from our land.

      Russia has repeatedly demanded to stop the punitive operation against the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics. In response, the nationalist power in Kiev only expands the scale of the aggression, killing civilians and inflicting material damage. All proposals for a peaceful settlement of interstate relations act on her like a red rag on a bull. Creating the appearance of a dialogue, the junta in fact continues to kill, consciously planning the creation of a humanitarian catastrophe.

      To prevent a humanitarian catastrophe, planned on behalf of Ukraine by its illegitimate government, can only enter the peacekeeping forces of Russia.

      We have no doubt that our fraternal country will sooner or later make such a decision. And we hope that it will be adopted sooner than a humanitarian catastrophe erupts on the territory of the Lugansk People’s Republic, artificially created on our territory by the nationalist government of the neighboring state of Ukraine. ”

      http://anna-news.info/node/16226
      1. +2
        23 May 2014 12: 18
        Quote: nycsson
        The head of the Lugansk People’s Republic, Valery Bolotov, addressed the President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin

        ..what even modestly mentioned in the news. But there is no official reaction yet .. no.
    9. +2
      23 May 2014 11: 14
      or better, a couple of other shiloks - and then the turntables there are insolent fly on a shaver, and several batteries of howitzers - to work on squares, then another conversation will be
    10. +5
      23 May 2014 11: 29
      .... Not bad ... It is desirable, instead of the BMP, at least a couple of "Carnations" or "Msta" ....
      1. Not angry
        +2
        23 May 2014 15: 43
        Quote: aleks 62
        .Not bad ... It is desirable, instead of the BMP, at least a couple of "Carnations" or "Msta" ....


        make a correction; It is desirable for these BMPs at least a couple of "Carnations" or "Msta"
    11. +8
      23 May 2014 12: 00
      Let's hope that soon the Kiev media will yell: Akhtung, save yourself, a column of armored vehicles is moving towards Kiev from New Russia, consisting of more than 200 ... units and motorized infantry more than 100 ... thousand.
    12. +2
      24 May 2014 21: 40
      Once again I’m convinced. Civil war is very difficult. Here it is not possible to guess who will win. I believe in one thing, the TRUTH will prevail, because in Truth the strength
      1. +2
        25 May 2014 03: 26

        but the Jews will win
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        2. nvv
          nvv
          +3
          25 May 2014 04: 34
          Plus to you for the right thought. And to whom to put a minus for the fact that the Jews will win?
  2. +14
    23 May 2014 09: 27
    The voltage rises. What will happen after 25?
    1. +11
      23 May 2014 09: 31
      Apparently it will only get worse. Because the DPR initially speaks of rejection of the election results. And whoever they choose, it will still dance to the tune of the States
      1. +22
        23 May 2014 09: 36
        Here, in the news coming out, they are worried that the battalion of mercenaries "Donbas" was ambushed and suffers significant losses. I see the Donetsk residents are seriously engaged in cleaning their land from dishonesty.

        http://glavred.info/politika/batalon-donbass-popal-v-zasadu-idet-boy-est-ranenye
        -280299.html
        1. +9
          23 May 2014 10: 39
          After yesterday's hell, the army team will help these mercenaries. The battalion, by the way, was almost completely gouged. Now these dogs are howling about "zrada".
        2. +5
          23 May 2014 12: 22
          Quote: MOISEY
          I watch the Donetsk team seriously cleaned their land from dishonesty

          The commander screams "Help!" .. AND IN ANSWER SILENCE .. After the executions of the conscripts, what self-respecting soldier will help the SS?
          But Semenchenko promised to arrange terror for the civilian (?) Population! It is not clear: what does the peaceful have to do with it?
    2. +8
      23 May 2014 09: 35
      Yes, all the same - the war with the people to destroy, so they die!
    3. +1
      23 May 2014 09: 57
      In theory, a new prident who should unite the non-resident. Well this is ideal. Unfortunately this does not happen ...
    4. +4
      23 May 2014 10: 16
      Kiev will not be up to Donbas.
      The massacre will begin, chaos, and in fact the absence of any power.
      And in the absence of central authority, more areas will fall off.
    5. +4
      24 May 2014 00: 21
      After 25 it seems there will be 26
  3. +17
    23 May 2014 09: 28
    Nails would be made of these people ... Well done just ... Now it’s important to create a military cover of the republics from the claims of the junta, and then you can talk about the rest ... Everything is according to Lenin, any revolution is worth something if it can defend itself with weapons in hand ...
  4. +14
    23 May 2014 09: 28
    He always said that the Nazis would bring everything that the Militia needed! It’s still difficult with helicopters lol
    1. GDP
      +5
      23 May 2014 09: 39
      It’s still difficult with helicopters

      Yeah, the dogs are falling!
      Oh, they would have a couple of silks! But, and 4 bmp is also a good reinforcement ..
  5. +21
    23 May 2014 09: 28
    Well done, militias! We are with all our hearts! We rejoice at your successes, and are upset when you lose your fighting friends, blessed memory of them. Good luck to you. Victory will still be yours.
    1. +3
      23 May 2014 10: 04
      Quote: Thought Giant
      . Victory will still be yours.

      What is the strength, brother? - in the TRUTH.
  6. +12
    23 May 2014 09: 29
    Without deception, the National Guard cannot. Good luck to the militias!
    1. +17
      23 May 2014 10: 05
      The National Guard is the only way to establish "order"
      1. +24
        23 May 2014 10: 16
        And a bit more!
      2. +1
        25 May 2014 09: 34
        so this is who they mean when they say "mister muscle"
  7. Bombardier
    +8
    23 May 2014 09: 29
    rus69 SU Today, 09:07
    It has not yet been verified, but now they’re shooting under Karlovka for sure ...
    Near Karlovka now "Dnepr" was ambushed, they asked for help from the military, but they were sent.


    What is heard from this information?
    1. +5
      23 May 2014 09: 35
      On kpunews.com they write:
      "... Later, Dmitry Tymchuk, the head of the Information Resistance group, announced that the ATO leadership assured that it was responding to the request."
      I hope the whole "Dnipro" will comprehend the same teaching.
      1. +2
        23 May 2014 12: 25
        Quote: alex56
        the management of anti-terrorist operation assures that responds to the request.

        In-in .. after all the shootings and would help: would have finished, so as not to suffer!
    2. Bombardier
      0
      23 May 2014 09: 37
      I have nothing to put the pros for. I ask - who has the information?
    3. +1
      23 May 2014 09: 38
      Quote: Bombardier
      What is heard from this information?

      The fight seems to be over, occasionally they shoot solitary, that's for sure for now. Everything else is being checked ...

      Block post in s. Krasnyanka at the entrance to Rubezhnoye. National Guard shoots a car
      http://vk.com/video203782465_169061028?hd=1&t=2s
      1. Bombardier
        0
        23 May 2014 09: 40
        Thank you.
  8. talnax7
    0
    23 May 2014 09: 29
    The flywheel of war spins
    1. 0
      23 May 2014 09: 44
      And apparently not stopping soon.
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  9. +3
    23 May 2014 09: 30
    Why burned? It was possible to organize some kind of firing point from it, which then would not be a pity to lose.
    1. Bombardier
      +2
      23 May 2014 09: 31
      Most likely they could not start the device, so that the enemy would not get it - they burned.
    2. Artist
      +4
      23 May 2014 09: 55
      It’s good to reason in a calm environment ... BMP is a tin can, and motionless is a grave for the crew. When attacking such a firing point, the crew is doomed, so it is better to burn the car.
      1. +2
        23 May 2014 10: 09
        In capable hands, in the absence of a normal air force at the enemy's disposal, this "box" is quite effective. In Slavyansk, even the BTR-D was useful, and the BMP-2 will serve at all.
        1. 0
          23 May 2014 12: 28
          Quote: SibRUS
          this "box" is quite effective

          They said, at the "Russian Spring", that it turned out to be out of order - that's why they burned it. There is no time to repair there! This is still possible in Kramatorsk: they dragged it to the shop and restored it, but here a constant "movement" is needed ..
      2. +1
        23 May 2014 10: 10
        The remaining BMPs were mobile and could drag the fifth to cover. The disturbing materiel is destroyed when they retreat.
        1. +1
          23 May 2014 15: 19
          Quote: Naum
          The remaining BMPs were mobile and could drag the fifth to cover.
          It’s good to be a strategist, seeing the battle from the side. Do you really think that the fools burned the BMP there? So the situation was like that!
  10. +3
    23 May 2014 09: 35
    Well done boys! Keep it up! good
  11. maxim1
    +2
    23 May 2014 09: 38
    Quote: ksv500
    It’s still difficult with helicopters

    At night, a motorcycle hang glider with grenades. Landing - a few kilometers away flashing headlights of the car. For instance.
    1. 0
      23 May 2014 12: 32
      Quote: maxim1
      At night, a motorcycle hang glider with grenades.

      Actually, on an aircraft that is not equipped with navigation devices, this is suicide. With special training (from where?) And night vision devices, in excellent weather conditions it is still possible. Only not on a motorcycle: they will determine the direction by sound, and snipers with the same "Night Lights" will shoot.
  12. +1
    23 May 2014 09: 38
    Well, the Republic of Lugansk has been equipped with armored vehicles. Good juntaers supply New Russia. They themselves would not have climbed, but simply brought the goods and left themselves.
  13. +2
    23 May 2014 09: 39
    Quote: krot_tank
    The voltage rises. What will happen after 25?

    2nd GAZ will be turned off! And let DOWNLOAD !!!
    1. stapler
      0
      23 May 2014 11: 45
      they don’t disconnect ... there’s not enough spirit ...
      1. 0
        23 May 2014 12: 34
        Quote: stappler
        they don’t disconnect ... there’s not enough spirit ...

        Why do you think so? .. Rather, the geyropa will figure out how to pay - closer to the deadline.
      2. 0
        24 May 2014 22: 18
        disconnect. but not 2 but 3rd in 10
        more precisely - there it turns out that they will limit, and Ukraine
        to provide for yourself, you have to start stealing.
        but then they’ll completely shut it down.
  14. +13
    23 May 2014 09: 39
    And here we got to the punishers of Kolomoisky.



    An armored personnel carrier of separatists approached the battlefield near the village of Karlovka, Donetsk region, where a volunteer battalion of territorial defense "Donbass" was ambushed, and heavy machine guns pulled up. The battalion commander Semyon Semenchenko announced this on his Facebook page.

    According to Semenchenko, nine wounded soldiers of the battalion were taken to the hospital. He also stressed that all telephone calls to the command of the army forces with a request to send reinforcements were not heard.

    "At 15 km towards Krasnoarmeysk there is a Ukrainian army checkpoint with 4 armored personnel carriers. We cannot approach our comrades, snipers are working," Semenchenko said.
    http://news.liga.net/news/incident/1849449-devyat_boytsov_batalona_donbass_ranen
    y_boeviki_podtyanuli_btr.htm


    Everyone will be rewarded for his deeds!
    1. +7
      23 May 2014 10: 07
      Quote: sinukvl
      nine wounded soldiers of the battalion were taken to the hospital.


      And at the hospital, foreign doctors are already waiting for donors for organs, analyzes and for "treatment" in the amputation room, and what will remain in a field bag and in a trench along the border, which Taruta dug out.
    2. +2
      23 May 2014 10: 40
      "Everyone will be rewarded for his deeds!"
      A very important word is missing in the picture: Polite
  15. Nikolav
    +7
    23 May 2014 09: 39
    Everyone says: on the verge of a civil war ... Here it is! Blazes.
  16. KOH
    +11
    23 May 2014 09: 44
    “They had an old commander, a captain named Andrei. He opened fire on them, as if on soldiers and so-called peaceful onlookers. A second battle ensued.

    Well, again !!! The commander began to shoot, something prevented him from banging? Nothing is clear ... request
  17. soyuz-nik
    +4
    23 May 2014 09: 44
    Good health, I wish! hi

    Down and Out trouble started! You never know what you can do till you try!

    To Kiev! For victory!
  18. +23
    23 May 2014 09: 48
    "Evening summary of Slavyansk.
    The mutual lull continued for most of the day. But in the evening, as expected (as usual), Ukrainians got drunk on beer and went to shoot at our positions in Semenovka on BMP-2. Pretty brazenly and long shot. Then our BMD-1 came into action - it shot all the ammunition at the opposite roadblock (on the road to Krasny Liman) - there something was sunburned and exploded, and the enemy infantry fighting vehicle chose to hide under the bridge. While the court and the case, our patrol went to the edge of the private sector, launched 4 VOGs. It seems successful - there were screams.
    According to unverified information, an enemy spotter was shot at the Salzavod. But it is necessary to clarify - here, in spite of the shelling, there is a mass of idle civilized people ... especially a lot of "blue".
    There is a funeral in Vostochny tomorrow - the Ukrainians, shooting Karpovka last night, killed a whole family of three. By chance. They simply riddled the house, which somehow suddenly found itself in the line of fire. And they simply "shot through" the area.
    Now every 15 minutes heavy howitzers (152-mm) are being hit with volleys. They carefully send 4 or 8 rounds across Semyonovka. It is unrealistic to get them with the means we have - so they can calmly continue their dirty business. So far we have no losses. By the way - the guns are served by army men. And yesterday they fired, and the day before yesterday. This means that "the boys were forcibly driven to fight and they must be pitied." Violently - not violently. but they are fighting ... So, "in war - as in war!"
    I know no more about the Luhansk region than yours - accordingly, no comment. "
    1. Bombardier
      +4
      23 May 2014 10: 01
      152 mm is a very adult thing! I repeat, very adult! In a gulp, in the battery of 6 guns, this is tin. In Semyonovka itself, where is the population hiding? I don’t take into account the cellar (not seriously).
      1. 0
        23 May 2014 12: 39
        Quote: Bombardier
        In a gulp, in the battery of 6 guns, this is tin.

        As I understand it, these are self-propelled guns, 2S3 or "Msta" (?), In the battery there, as in the tank, like, is it considered?
        1. 0
          26 May 2014 09: 14
          Battery - 4 self-propelled guns.
      2. st.lt
        0
        24 May 2014 23: 23
        And where are you hiding from 152mm? In theory, Semenovka has already been leveled, civilians managed to evacuate?
    2. 0
      23 May 2014 11: 32
      That's right: you fight (it doesn't matter voluntarily or from under the stick) you must be ready for "disposal", and what to do is a battle for life and death!
    3. +1
      23 May 2014 12: 00
      A calm and business report on the work done by a knowledgeable person. Several phrases describe the combat situation, related factors and results.
      So to write - a lot of talent is needed.
  19. +1
    23 May 2014 09: 49
    Not the army, but the gang of punishers.
  20. +14
    23 May 2014 09: 49
    In the Luhansk region declared martial law and total mobilization, Bolotov assures that the military enlistment offices. But “I’m the daughter of an officer myself, I’ve been living here for 50 years and I assure you that it’s not so simple” - the militias themselves are getting more and more irritated, it would be dishonest not to say so. The region has become truly dangerous, scary, business is standing, social payments are in question, and many are asking if it is better to put up with the central government, even if it’s so awkward, so disgusting and they call the plague on both houses. And many believe in memoranda and round tables, because I just really want peace and security. Something like this, they say, in the Great Patriotic War, ordinary villagers reasoned, to which partisans visited, took food, did all kinds of actions that angered the Germans, after which they used to burn entire villages.

    This terrible dilemma has no solution. To be or not to be, that is the question ...
    It was the same in 1918 and in 1941-43 ...
    1. Bombardier
      +5
      23 May 2014 09: 54
      Thanks for the truth.
    2. +7
      23 May 2014 10: 16
      It’s because of such judgments that you have problems, I agree now it’s difficult, but then there will be improvements on all issues, and after a year you’ll climb into the garbage dumps, as happens in South Africa, all the dirt will be crap during shale mining, the Yankees will squeeze you out full, factories, the plants will stand up, and indeed decide what to say yourself!
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      2. -20
        23 May 2014 10: 24
        They think there and without your "couch" advice will figure it out. And what will be better next, write at least a few points. Well, for example, production, economics, social sphere ... which of this and how soon do you think it will be better ?? And you don't have to go far for examples - the dying Dniester region, and North Ossetia, Abkhazia and Karabakh, unnecessary and needy.
        1. Aleksandr65
          +14
          23 May 2014 11: 03
          What nonsense about Transnistria ?! Everything works, if not for the blockade, it would be very good. Do you know that villages from Moldova want to go to Transnistria?
          1. -7
            23 May 2014 14: 22
            Of course it works, from the last old Soviet forces. I was not too lazy, looked at the wiki, of course there is a dull picture - population decline, population aging, high inflation ... Gas debt for 2011 is $ 3 billion ... Which is not surprising - parents want their children to live and grow up normal country, and not in a blockade and unrecognized.
            Although the standard of living is different for everyone, some have enough bread and water and he is already happy, some have little cheese and sausage. so it’s really good for someone there, and those who want more have already left or are trying to leave
            1. +1
              24 May 2014 23: 04
              Quote: Dangerous
              parents want their children to live and grow in a normal country

              That is, in Russia, as all normal people want.
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        2. +2
          23 May 2014 11: 44
          And you don’t have to go far for examples - the bending Transnistria, and the poor of North Ossetia, Abkhazia and Karabakh, who are useless to anyone

          And here is North Ossetia? This is a subject of the Russian Federation.
          1. -6
            23 May 2014 12: 34
            Ugh, you mixed up with the South))
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        3. +4
          23 May 2014 11: 54
          .... Dangerous ... You still forgot about Crimea.
          1. 0
            23 May 2014 14: 12
            And what about the Crimea? He is all right, he is ours!
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        4. Escander_84
          0
          24 May 2014 23: 37
          If you have the strength to nationalize Akhmetov’s assets, then in 10 years, there will be Monte Carlo !!!
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    4. -12
      23 May 2014 10: 20
      I already wrote about this, that the veil of romantic moods about independence falls off from people. It turns out that Russia does not need them and a choice arises: either a slave existence on the rights of national minorities within Ukraine, or to be independent, but no-one in the world. Accordingly, no country to leave, kirdyk business and social programs. Another question - why did they then vote for independence, what did they think? In general, a really difficult dilemma ...
      1. +6
        23 May 2014 10: 57
        Quote: Dangerous
        the veil of romantic moods about independence falls off from people.

        You will laugh, but there is such a small but proud state of Israel. The population is comparable, the territory is smaller. But at the same time they manage to bend neighbors with numerically large armies and resources. And they do not have such coal deposits.
        There would be a desire to live, opportunities will be found. There is no need to breed defeatist moods here.
        Although based on the fact that with a population of 8 million people, there are only a few hundreds of resistance units, here you are right, there is reason to think.
        1. +3
          23 May 2014 11: 56
          .... Israel, incidentally, is also recognized by far the vast majority of countries ...
      2. Djein
        +2
        23 May 2014 11: 05
        [quote = Dangerous] Dangerous

        You, too, chose the correct nickname .... Once you read it, remember it, and then you can not read at all .......
        1. -4
          23 May 2014 14: 15
          I decided to nick *** *** ?? What does nick have to do with this topic and my posts? If you want to troll, go to the Dom2 forum and sit balabolte for as long as you like
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      4. Aleksandr65
        +6
        23 May 2014 11: 07
        Again nonsense ... In Transnistria, people have 4 citizenships - Transnistria, Russia, Moldova, Ukraine, and some of Romania. They go wherever they want. Is this "nobody" in your opinion? And Russia also needs cheap gas. At least figure it out first, and then broadcast ...
        1. -6
          23 May 2014 14: 12
          Well, Moldovans mostly go wherever they want, but go to the coven in Russia))) Maybe your last post on the desire of rural residents to join Transnistria. But, firstly, the population only decreases every year, and secondly, the middle class thinks a little differently than grandmothers from neighboring villages. Therefore, in the so-called DNRs, the population is not in a hurry to get up on the barricades for independence, since they understand what this threatens.
          1. 0
            26 May 2014 01: 37
            What threatens? Only a loss of work. To my shame, before the war reached my city, I help the DPR with my work and taxes. No fear. Maybe the bullets will whistle, scared. But in this case, I will have nowhere to go - I think there will be no work.
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      5. Escander_84
        0
        24 May 2014 23: 41
        Those. you think that over 100 billion rubles. investment in anything and everything ... is that nothing ??? I doubt that Crimea in Ukraine thought about such numbers at all !!!
    5. +3
      23 May 2014 11: 19
      We understand. You have a border with Russia.
      The question is this: either you are them, or they are you.
      There is no other option.
      They can’t stand it for a long time. The whole question is, can you stand it?
      The fate of your children is in your hands.
      --------
      Take my word for it, every day we think about you.
      Others will support me.
  21. Artist
    +28
    23 May 2014 09: 49
    It’s a pity for men, it seems to everyone that seven people are not big losses, but in fact it’s a lot of damage, because each of them, unlike most, was not afraid to speak out against the Nazis ... I hope that everything will stabilize, their names will be immortalized, as fighters for freedom from the Nazi yoke.
    1. Aleksandr65
      +7
      23 May 2014 11: 10
      I agree with you. Seven worlds ended .. Immensely sorry, the kingdom of heaven to them. Damned West ... Why did they leave this Germany in the 45th ?!
    2. +2
      23 May 2014 11: 59
      ..... By the way, in Crimea, there were very few people in the militia either ... The rest drank beer and sat on sofas (the overwhelming majority) and waited for what would end .... presented by some media) ...
      1. 0
        23 May 2014 13: 39
        This is PMC wink .......
        1. 0
          26 May 2014 09: 22
          ..... Yes, there was no PMC ....
  22. b.sh.d.13
    +1
    23 May 2014 09: 50
    Since there is no assistance in armaments from Russia, such trophies are a good help for defense. Well done guys !!!
    1. +2
      23 May 2014 11: 09
      Quote: b.sh.d.13
      Since there is no assistance in arms from Russia

      Of course you are right, the Fagot ATGM can be bought in any hardware store, not only in Syria, but also in the Donbass, and it costs like a bottle of vodka. The most common thing, yes.
      1. +3
        23 May 2014 12: 01
        ... No in the shop, but in the net - yes !!! And the ensigns in the Ukrainian Arimia did not go to the warehouses ...
      2. Escander_84
        0
        24 May 2014 23: 54
        Old "Fagots" were on board, every second BMP or BMD. So it is very likely that they squeezed out along with the technique. And here is the MANPADS. at 12 thousand euros per shot, this is unlikely ... This is already a merci ukropraporschikam !!!
  23. +1
    23 May 2014 09: 50
    And why should the military "come to the rescue" of those who shoot them in the back? Here, as in a joke about a mother-in-law in a zoo: "He attacked himself, let him get out of it himself! .."
  24. +8
    23 May 2014 09: 52
    While there is a photo 3 BMP-2 beaten off.

    568
    721
    and one more without visible b / n
    1. +4
      23 May 2014 10: 23
      Evening summary Strelkov II in Slavyansk for May 22, 2014
      "Evening summary of Slavyansk.
      The mutual lull continued for most of the day. But in the evening, as expected (as usual), Ukrainians got drunk on beer and went to shoot at our positions in Semenovka on BMP-2. Pretty brazenly and long shot. Then our BMD-1 came into action - it shot all the ammunition at the opposite roadblock (on the road to Krasny Liman) - there something was sunburned and exploded, and the enemy infantry fighting vehicle chose to hide under the bridge. While the court and the case, our patrol went to the edge of the private sector, launched 4 VOGs. It seems successful - there were screams.

      According to unverified information, an enemy spotter was shot at the Salzavod. But it is necessary to clarify - here, in spite of the shelling, there is a mass of idle civilized people ... especially a lot of "blue".

      There is a funeral in Vostochny tomorrow - the Ukrainians, shooting Karpovka last night, killed a whole family of three. By chance. They simply riddled the house, which somehow suddenly found itself in the line of fire. And they simply "shot through" the area.

      Now every 15 minutes heavy howitzers (152-mm) are being hit with volleys. They carefully send 4 or 8 rounds across Semyonovka. It is unrealistic to get them with the means we have - so they can calmly continue their dirty business. So far we have no losses. By the way - the guns are served by army men. And yesterday they fired, and the day before yesterday. This means that "the boys were forcibly driven to fight and they must be pitied." Violently - not violently. but they are fighting ... So, "in war - as in war!"

      I know no more about the Luhansk region than yours - accordingly, no comment. "
      1. 0
        23 May 2014 18: 31
        Quote: gfhjkm
        Hence, "in war - as in war!"
        The militias have long been "sharpening their teeth" on howitzers and the warriors leading them to fire on the city. And I think Strelkov will find a way to "calm down" the ukrovoyak ...
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  25. +4
    23 May 2014 09: 52
    In a hospital in the village of Privolie in the north of the Luhansk region, the Ukrainian military shot the wounded. This was reported by RIA Novosti with reference to the representative of the militia Ostap Cherny.
    According to him, both the militia and the Ukrainian military were in the hospital at that time.
    In addition, Right Sector militants shot conscripts of the National Guard of Ukraine for their refusal to kill civilians in the village of Navodruzhkovka near Lisichansk in the Luhansk region.
    "When the Ukrainian military on a convoy of armored vehicles approached Lisichansk, the militias tried to negotiate with them, but they opened fire," he said.
    Then the military retreated, but 30 of them decided to stay and surrender, the militia explained. "30 Ukrainian soldiers surrendered. All of them (their own) were shot," he said.
    He also said that the people "were in an open area, no one was hiding, and then they opened fire to kill."
  26. 0
    23 May 2014 09: 54
    It's too early to talk about Kiev. It is necessary to restore order on our land and to draw a border. Create a real army, at least with a minimum amount of armored vehicles. In parallel, campaign in the southern regions with the goal of either holding similar referenda, or at least an influx of volunteers. And then, you can go to Kiev.
  27. Stepan
    +4
    23 May 2014 09: 58
    ONE HOUR BACK CALLED IN VOLNOVAKH, our regiment during V.O., The guys were farming there, they say the "Vostok" battalion came
    1. Bombardier
      +1
      23 May 2014 10: 09
      Confused about the names of battalions (there are already dozens of them, ten people and already a battalion), in this case, who does the "VOSTOK" battalion represent?
      1. Stepan
        0
        23 May 2014 12: 03
        From the moon crashed ???
      2. Stepan
        0
        23 May 2014 12: 03
        From the moon crashed ???
      3. +2
        23 May 2014 18: 35
        Quote: Bombardier
        Confused about the names of battalions (there are already dozens of them, ten people and already a battalion), in this case, who does the "VOSTOK" battalion represent?
        ДНР.

        And the so-called battalions "Kiev", "Dnepr", "Donbass" - to the junta. Bastards, such words defiled ...
  28. +1
    23 May 2014 09: 58
    It is worth helping Donetsk with equipment, if for some strategic reasons this cannot be done directly, then the Russian leadership could arrange such a delivery, for example, from Abkhazia.
  29. tokin1959
    0
    23 May 2014 10: 00
    before the election, if they don’t put Donbass on their knees, they will try to continue after the election.
    more hands will be untied.
    they will introduce martial law and force the army to shoot to kill everything that moves.
    Now many warriors cite the lack of a written order.
    maybe after the election and write it.
    Petro Porosenko said that he would like the composition of the government and he would not change him after the election.
    Yes, and he has power under the 2004 constitution - almost none, so - purely representative.
    The junta will remain in place.
    Unless Zhulke Moshenko will be on hand.
    the continuation of the ATO will obviously be unsuccessful, with a large number of victims.
    and Zhulka can be thrown off Porosenkin either under the guise of the fact that he is a cruel maniac, killing civilians, or under the guise of not conducting an ATO actively enough - this will be a choice for Zhulka due to circumstances.
  30. talnax7
    -7
    23 May 2014 10: 01
    There are no heroes in the civil war. Citizens of Ukraine kill their citizens and this is true.
    1. +3
      23 May 2014 11: 22
      Try to explain this not to us, but to the Ukrainian Nazis.
      1. talnax7
        0
        23 May 2014 11: 42
        This will take another 23 years before there is something to hear and that is not a fact. For several months, the country was dragged into a civil war.
  31. ZSP
    +2
    23 May 2014 10: 03
    And what’s going to be said, you have to decide who and how. You can’t sit on two chairs. You will find yourself on the floor at best, the only question is in what form and in what position.
  32. +4
    23 May 2014 10: 06
    BTR to help you comrades militias! Hold on, fight, don't give up!
  33. +1
    23 May 2014 10: 10
    That’s wonderful, I think they’ll be moving en masse soon, well, not the Borans will understand everything perfectly, the Ukraine is trying to impose the main part of the violence from its mountains of violence, so that time is over everyone has come to their senses!
  34. +8
    23 May 2014 10: 14
    Quite fascist muzzles moved out of the blue, I understand who wrote it, but I would like to see the one who believes this papyrene.
    1. 0
      23 May 2014 11: 09
      Well, you can see right away who wrote this get along - Americans
      possibly a carbon copy of the same "appeals" from Libya and Iraq
    2. Djein
      +1
      23 May 2014 11: 19
      Quote: GRAY

      Completely fascist muzzles moved out of the blue


      GEBELS RELAXES ...............
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  35. parus2nik
    +4
    23 May 2014 10: 15
    Death to the Bandera invaders! And so I look according to reports from the front, ukramiya and the national guard .. they have a relationship like a whore with a pimp ..
  36. +3
    23 May 2014 10: 21
    Quote: Iskander Khan
    Urgent repost! It may have already appeared. Natsikov is extinguished by his own helicopters near Volnovakha (DPR). I think it doesn’t need a translation. The DNI has no turntables. If you know how, then repost on foreign sites.

    This is already a complete anus ... This is what the lack of unity of command and the presence of units of various subordination and even without the experience of warfare lead to. I wonder how they did not shoot these lads on the first run with fear. Maybe they actually cleaned up their own, which the soldiers of the Colomian shot.
  37. +2
    23 May 2014 10: 24
    I am very worried about our guys. They need to hold on. And continue to work tirelessly with army units. It seems to me a little more and the army will go over to the side of the militias.
  38. ed65b
    +2
    23 May 2014 10: 35
    Svezhak.
    In the Donetsk region, during a protracted anti-terrorist operation (ATO) against militias, the Donbass volunteer territorial defense battalion was ambushed. ATO command did not help him. The battalion suffers losses: according to preliminary data, 9 people were seriously injured.
    In the area of ​​the village of Karlovka, not far from Krasnoarmeysk, volunteers of the Donbass battalion, who volunteered to help the forces of the anti-terrorist operation, were ambushed. The fact that they had to accept the battle, and how further events unfold, on the page on the social network Facebook wrote the battalion commander Semen Semenchenko.
    Semenchenko writes that near Kalovka, fighters were suddenly ambushed by militias of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic. Against volunteers, mainly residents of the Donetsk region, the militia fired snipers, machine gunners and fighters with hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers (RPGs).
    A little later, the Donbass commander added that the militia pulled up armored vehicles and heavy machine guns to the battlefield. According to Seleznev, they throw grenades at volunteers. The commander emotionally speaks of the fact that a checkpoint of the Ukrainian army with four armored personnel carriers is located 15 kilometers from the site of the bloody confrontation. But anti-terrorist operation forces are even trying to help volunteers of the Donbass battalion.
    Seleznev reports that reinforcements so far cannot approach those fighters who were ambushed, since militia snipers work there. According to him, 9 volunteers were injured, they were taken to the nearest hospital in the hands of doctors.
  39. +5
    23 May 2014 10: 35
    Repost:

    According to Stakhanov: 90 percent of the armed fighters of the Stakhanov self-defense detachment advanced to Lysychansk and, together with local self-defense, took the battle. Only a small number of armed fighters remained in the city of Stakhanov to guard the roadblocks, headquarters and task force, and those who did not have weapons. At each Stakhanov checkpoint there are three submachine gunners and up to two dozen militias with sticks and Molotov cocktails. At the checkpoint on which I was on duty all day, three submachine gunners, 1 PKK, ten “Molotov cocktails” and one revolver chambered for “flaubert” - for twenty people! We really lack weapons, for one automatic machine there are five fighters without weapons. Thanks to Russian friends for the armor and helmets that we received from them: today they saved more than one militia life! The city is in a panic, kindergartens, schools, some shops are closed, there are queues near pharmacies and grocery stores, people in a panic rake everything off the shelves!


    ALL HEAR:
    Thanks to Russian friends for the armor and helmets that we received from them: today they saved more than one militia life!


    Draw conclusions.
  40. +6
    23 May 2014 10: 37
    Thanks from the fighters of the Stakhanov self-defense.
    1. +1
      23 May 2014 20: 43
      Quote: GRAY
      Thanks from the fighters

      Helmets "old", the police were in service. Yes, and armor from there.
      1. 0
        24 May 2014 07: 52
        Quote: Olegovi4
        Helmets "old", the police were in service. Yes, and armor from there.

        Helmet "Sphere", holds a shot from PM and TT ...
  41. +2
    23 May 2014 10: 43
    Here are the Russian Germans who want to help Donbass:
    http://warfiles.ru/show-57620-nemeckie-dobrovolcy-sobirayutsya-v-donbass.html
  42. +1
    23 May 2014 10: 54
    "In a hospital in the village of Privolye in the north of the Luhansk region, the Ukrainian military shot the wounded," RIA Novosti reports with reference to the representative of the militia Ostap Cherny.
    According to him, both the militia and the Ukrainian military were in the hospital at that time.

    http://www.rg.ru/2014/05/23/voennie-anons.html
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  44. +2
    23 May 2014 10: 55
    There is a feeling that Washington has signed a service agreement with Ukraine in the event of military measures by Russia (like Turkey and England in the middle of the 19th century). It is true that if Russia intervenes now, then one third of Ukraine will vote for those candidates who are against Russia. And the US Treasury with the Pentagon will be happy - they will finally receive money for armament. This policy is a dirty business.
  45. cosmonaut
    +7
    23 May 2014 10: 58
    The fact that people want to put up with the colonialists indicates a lack of understanding with whom they want to negotiate. Poroshenko said that at first you can promise cattle anything, and then we outweigh everyone. I believe in the sincerity of these words. In war, you can’t get off with half-victims. You cannot betray your fallen comrades.
  46. +4
    23 May 2014 10: 59
    The National Guard is under the command of P. Idor. And how can you believe P. donors, what are you?
  47. 0
    23 May 2014 11: 27
    everyone is armed as best he can ...
  48. +2
    23 May 2014 11: 37
    Quote: vezunchik
    In the Luhansk region declared martial law and total mobilization, Bolotov assures that the military enlistment offices. But “I’m the daughter of an officer myself, I’ve been living here for 50 years and I assure you that it’s not so simple” - the militias themselves are getting more and more irritated, it would be dishonest not to say so. The region has become truly dangerous, scary, business is standing, social payments are in question, and many are asking if it is better to put up with the central government, even if it’s so awkward, so disgusting and they call the plague on both houses. And many believe in memoranda and round tables, because I just really want peace and security. Something like this, they say, in the Great Patriotic War, ordinary villagers reasoned, to which partisans visited, took food, did all kinds of actions that angered the Germans, after which they used to burn entire villages.

    This terrible dilemma has no solution. To be or not to be, that is the question ...
    It was the same in 1918 and in 1941-43 ...

    This is understandable and natural. The man in the street is always very inert, especially when "it is not dripping" overhead. There have always been few passionate volunteers. You can recall even the Time of Troubles in 1612 or 1917 (then the impetus for mass events was the mass mobilization of the population at the front of the 1st World War). In our case, the best option, so that the local resident does not interfere too much. And this requires AGITATION. Donbass was not the best region in terms of ecology before. And when the Americans, with the hands of the junta, begin to extract shale gas, the region will generally turn into a poisoned desert. It is necessary to inform people that the US is trying to make something like Liberia or the Ivory Coast from Donbass.
  49. +8
    23 May 2014 14: 47
    Somehow like this...
    1. 0
      25 May 2014 00: 34
      Well, for a bag of potatoes this is closer to Belarus exchange points :)
  50. 0
    23 May 2014 15: 35
    Here !!! Shoot your wounded! It seems that the Americans set a task for them to provoke RUSSIA at any cost. I hope the Ukrainian military will quickly figure out who is stirring up the water and tank columns will go to Kiev and Lvov. Then the polar fox will come to the banderlogs!
  51. +3
    23 May 2014 15: 50
    Fight in Lisichansk.
  52. +1
    23 May 2014 16: 05
    Calculation of losses of the Ukrainian army in Rubizhne.
  53. +1
    23 May 2014 17: 05
    In the Volyn region. May 23-24 and in the Rivne region. May 23-25 ​​have been declared Days of Mourning for the soldiers killed near Volnovakha

    May 23 and 24 in the Volyn region and May 23, 24 and 25 in the Rivne region have been declared Days of Mourning for the servicemen of the military units of the operational command "North" who died near Volnovakha (Donetsk region). This was reported by the press service of the Cabinet of Ministers.

    According to reports, on the Days of Mourning throughout the Rivne and Volyn regions, the national flags of Ukraine will be flown at half-mast on houses and buildings of state authorities, local governments, military units and institutions. In districts, cities and villages, all planned cultural events, sports competitions, entertainment programs, television and radio broadcasts will be cancelled.

    As noted in the Cabinet of Ministers, today, May 23, in military units and institutions of the operational command “North”, which are stationed in the Rivne region and Volyn, morning formations began with a minute of silence for the fallen servicemen.

    Let us recall that on May 22, during an attack on servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Volnovakha district of the Donetsk region, 16 security forces were killed. In addition, there are 32 people who were injured in medical institutions in the region.
  54. +4
    23 May 2014 17: 42
    Thanks to the coordinated defense of representatives of the self-defense forces in the south-east of Ukraine, the militia managed to disable almost half of the personnel of the so-called “Donbass” battalion, which is participating in the punitive operation. “Donbass” was formed by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine from among the Maidan protesters who took part in the “winter sitting” "on Independence Square in Kyiv. These militants loved to pose with Ukrainian flags for foreign journalists.
    The battalion was sent to clean up the Donetsk region, serving as a strike force during the attack on the city of Krasnoarmeysk. However, near the city, near the village of Karlovka, an ambush awaited them, organized by mobile groups of militias, who managed to wound and disable almost half of this “battalion”. In battle, representatives of the self-defense forces used hand grenade launchers, heavy machine guns, small arms, and moved on armored personnel carriers previously captured from the enemy. As a result, “Donbass” was surrounded, and the remaining fighters were taken prisoner, which led to hysteria in the ranks of the militants. The head of the battalion, a certain Semyon Semenchenko, admitted on Facebook the fact that about half of the battalion’s personnel were wounded in the battles on Thursday. “The fighters are running out of ammunition. There is no way to approach them - snipers are working. We need an armored personnel carrier to drive up to the building and take the guys out. We can’t go further than the gas station,” Semenchenko wrote. He threatened to carry out “terrorism” in Krasnoarmeysk if the militia did not hand over the prisoners. Soon a message appeared on social networks that Semenchenko, who had been intimidated by threats, was himself captured. Right Sector fighters rushed to the aid of the militants, who managed to take several Donbass fighters from the battlefield. Yarosh, the leader of the Right Sector, who confirmed the death and numerous injuries of the Maidan protesters, expressed indignation at the actions of the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Avakov, with whom he has had scores to settle since the elimination of “Sashko Bily”. “And again - either incompetence or betrayal of the ATO (ATO - anti-terrorist operation - approx.) leadership. And again - there are not enough weapons for ours... It seems that the leadership and Facebook ministers running the ATO are more afraid of armed Ukrainian patriots than enemies states - armed separatists,” an inscription appeared on Yarosh’s Facebook account. As observers note, this is not the first time that the Right Sector has complained about poor “weapons” and the poor organization of the force operation in general. This fact once again shows that the militants attacking the positions of the self-defense forces are a bunch of “warriors”, who are unable to come to an agreement and are ready to destroy each other. On Thursday, the mercenaries shot and brought to their knees in this way at least 10 soldiers and contract soldiers who refused to go against their own people. All those who died, called up from various regions of Ukraine, were no more than 30 years old. According to preliminary data, militants of the Dnepr detachment, financed by the Ukrainian oligarch and governor of the Dnepropetrovsk region Kolomoisky, took part in the massacre. According to the militia, there are foreign mercenaries in the ranks of this unit: representatives of the self-defense forces talk about foreigners who spoke with a Polish accent, black mercenaries. In addition, according to some reports, female snipers are taking part in the force operation, as was the case in the Chechen war.
  55. +3
    24 May 2014 22: 05
    Quote: Dangerous
    I already wrote about this, that the veil of romantic moods about independence falls off from people. It turns out that Russia does not need them and a choice arises: either a slave existence on the rights of national minorities within Ukraine, or to be independent, but no-one in the world. Accordingly, no country to leave, kirdyk business and social programs. Another question - why did they then vote for independence, what did they think? In general, a really difficult dilemma ...


    But I’ll explain.... They went and voted with enthusiasm and went home, saying that Moscow troops, rubles, and pensions would arrive tomorrow. banks, subsidies.... But it turns out you have to fight for freedom of choice... This is where things get tricky. I think there are no crowds at the military registration and enlistment offices...

    And in Rat, when recruitment was announced (even before the referendum), by the evening they had already formed 25 companies of officers alone (3000), and the next day they occupied the isthmuses, where before that on one there were 22, on the other 15 Berkut officers fought back... And after 4 day Aksyonov announced that there was no more need for volunteers, 15 under arms.... And if Putin had given the command, they would have dared everything....

    And here - I read the forums of the cities of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk - one concern - how to go to work tomorrow, is the workshop working, again the bastard terrorists burned the switchboard, but when will they leave... "The separators loaded the Kamaz and drove there and then," " disgusting NONA is standing there then".... Not a single post of sympathy, it feels like they are watching theater.... The more I read, the more I agree that Putin is right, because they have not matured enough to have freedom of choice...

    Voices are already being heard at the rally in Slavyansk - Strelok, you are to blame for the death of civilians, if you hadn’t come, we would live quietly and peacefully, get the bastards out of our Slavyansk....

    8 million, the weapons mine has been captured.... It’s a pity for Strelok and his people.... We can only wait for what Putin will say, because Europe has bashfully closed its eyes, although the people there are starting to come out... But the rulers are all under the US, not a single one there is no independent one - the only one left is Putin - that’s why there is hatred towards him.

    If they impose more sanctions, why the hell will we turn off their gas, let us push ourselves, we lived the same way before...
  56. +1
    24 May 2014 22: 09
    Quote: GRAY
    Calculation of losses of the Ukrainian army in Rubizhne.


    How famously YouTube deletes all videos... Isn’t there a Russian analogue?
    1. +1
      24 May 2014 23: 41
      Yes, http://rutube.ru/
  57. Makyr
    +1
    24 May 2014 23: 00
    There was one huddled lump in the 89th regiment in the village of Kornevo-1. tank company. I don’t remember his last name, but at division officer meetings I spoke a lot about the oppression of Ukraine by Russia. Late 80s. Didn’t admit anything. I want to spit in the face... I forgot my last name - I remember in U... it starts.
  58. +1
    24 May 2014 23: 46
    beautiful of 72 meters
  59. +1
    25 May 2014 00: 00
    Quote: Not evil
    make a correction; It is desirable for these BMPs at least a couple of "Carnations" or "Msta"
    There is already an anti-aircraft gun, as well as two BRDMs and a Ural with ammunition http://rusvesna.su/news/1400931804
  60. +1
    25 May 2014 00: 33
    Keep it up, well done, you will soon come to Kyiv to see them :)
  61. Evgtan
    +1
    25 May 2014 07: 05
    Why can't the Ukrainian army take Slavyansk?
    So, after all, Babai is there...
  62. +1
    25 May 2014 09: 03
    American fosterlings will still come to an end. Death to the fascists.
  63. +1
    25 May 2014 15: 11
    A little off topic, but: A friend arrived yesterday in a VAZ 7. They were planning to go for rowan trees. We put the shovel in the trunk - we suffered a lot. Shovel length - 1,73 m.
    The question naturally arose: - How did the correspondents supposedly carry MANPADS in the trunk? It's just a little shorter, isn't it?
    1. +1
      25 May 2014 21: 53
      5 seconds after the start of the first show of the detention of our reporters, I also had this question.
  64. BelPartizan
    +1
    25 May 2014 16: 08
    Quote: xenod55
    Let's hope that soon the Kiev media will yell: Akhtung, save yourself, a column of armored vehicles is moving towards Kiev from New Russia, consisting of more than 200 ... units and motorized infantry more than 100 ... thousand.


    Here's a very important comment. I think this development of events is the only way to end this war, I’m afraid it’s the most likely one
  65. +1
    26 May 2014 03: 43
    During the Second World War, the first thing they did was SHOOT the fascist command personnel. First, by shooting them, you will save many civilians, your own Ukrainians. And the soldiers can easily come over to your side.