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Ukrainian security forces shoot conscripts

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According to the ITAR-TASS, with reference to the representative of the militia of the Lugansk People's Republic of Ostap Chernoy, Ukrainian security forces shot down about 30 conscripts, who surrendered to self-defense fighters.


According to Cherny, in the area of ​​Lysychansk a battle began with units of the National Guard and the Ukrainian army.

“When the Ukrainian military on a convoy of armored vehicles approached Lysychansk, the militia tried to enter into negotiations with them, but they opened fire,” he said, adding that the military retreated, but 30 of them remained, deciding to surrender.

“30 of Ukrainian military surrendered. All of them (their own) were shot,” said Cherny. According to him, a bus with prisoners was shot from a heavy machine gun.

According to RIA "News", the fact of the execution was confirmed by another captured Ukrainian soldier, who identified himself as a soldier of the 30 th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. “We moved to Lysychansk in the north of the region. The commander ordered indiscriminate shooting, ”he told reporters, noting that he was left in the BMP during the retreat. According to him, the militia rescued him from the bullets controlled by the Kiev military.

In addition, according to the news agency "Vesti", on Thursday morning, militants of the Donbass battalion shot Ukrainian soldiers who refused to open fire on civilians.

As noted by novorus.info, eyewitnesses said that the attack on the location of the 51-th brigade of the Ukrainian armed forces ended in a brutal massacre of soldiers who were put on their knees.

“The inhabitants of the Gracious rose to the defense of their homes. The soldiers were ordered to crush the resistance. They refused to shoot at people, and as a result they were punished, - said a source in the headquarters of the self-defense command. “They killed several soldiers, four or five, and then put the 10 man on his knees and shot them.” This is the wounded told. "
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  1. Baikal
    Baikal 23 May 2014 08: 03
    +47
    Arrived, called ... If this is true, this is a complete frostbitten mess.
    I remember a video of one soldier who suggested "Turchinov and Co. think, because they can deploy columns to Kiev."
    With such arrangements - that day is not far off.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 23 May 2014 08: 09
      +17
      They act like real punishers ... (justify their name junta) will answer for everything!
      1. Duke
        Duke 23 May 2014 08: 51
        +1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Act like real punishers ...

        And those soldiers who shoot honest.
        1. raptor1975
          raptor1975 23 May 2014 10: 53
          +5
          And the bastards will tell families that terrorists from the southeast killed ...
          1. SANAY
            SANAY 23 May 2014 11: 13
            0
            The situation always takes time to develop. When coffins flood into Kiev and its environs and begin to return to the unnecessary cripples, the situation will change.
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      2. ed65b
        ed65b 23 May 2014 09: 44
        +5
        Quote: MIKHAN
        They act like real punishers ... (justify their name junta) will answer for everything!

        Hi Vital. hi The information is generally contradictory. Today it was reported that according to Strelkov, the destruction of the roadblock was his operation, and the shooting of the remains of the roadblock was a delayed reaction of the Ukrainian army who did not understand the situation and that the militants who had seized the stronghold were burning (as they were sure). The second episode with the shot soldiers also has questions. Personally, I saw on TV how the prisoners were leaving on a truck, hitching also ZUShKu, and the officer of the trenches opened fire and the battle started there. In general, everything is muddy for now.
      3. raptor1975
        raptor1975 23 May 2014 10: 42
        0
        This is Pinochet’s system - it rains in Santiago, part two (sorry for the soldier)
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    2. Hunghuz
      Hunghuz 23 May 2014 08: 09
      +6
      hi We go to the city of GEYropeisky difficult road) the Svidomo road the crooked one) Abama will fulfill our cherished three wishes) and Yulka will return to Yaroshka to Texas))) Geyroi’s fairy tales are given to the girl Yulia, Iron Pravosek, terrified Turchinov and the lion Yatsenyuk
      1. yulka2980
        yulka2980 23 May 2014 09: 14
        +1
        Julia is not a girl for a long time, but Yaytsenyukh the jackal angry
      2. yulka2980
        yulka2980 23 May 2014 09: 16
        0
        Yulia is no longer a girl, Yaytsenyuk the jackal, not a lion! wassat
        1. tomket
          tomket 23 May 2014 10: 00
          0
          Yulia has been sitting on coke for a long time, this explains a lot.
          1. The comment was deleted.
          2. Ptah
            Ptah 23 May 2014 10: 07
            0
            And who is not there on coke .... ???
            Here is the brother of Misha (Dopa) in the Rada. Behavior is clearly inadequate. I neighing while watching.
            Are there narcologists on the site? Comment please ....


            It’s immediately obvious that this deputy is RAISING for the future of Ukraine .... belay laughing
            Yes there are half of those ...
            1. Ajax
              Ajax 23 May 2014 11: 04
              +2
              Apparently he accelerated ... his nose itches, by the way, Lyashkin also walks with insane eyes, Tyagnibok is also brutalized.
            2. jagdpanzer
              jagdpanzer 23 May 2014 11: 11
              +3
              well, it seems at first glance at "speed" laughing damn it gnaws at him then he can’t even sit and put music on him and he will dance bully
            3. SANAY
              SANAY 23 May 2014 11: 18
              +1
              He constantly wipes his scent. Dude on coke 100 pounds.
              1. a52333
                a52333 23 May 2014 11: 34
                +2
                He has two questions in his head:
                1) Where am I?
                2) Who am I?
                Flats him not childishly. yes
            4. goose
              goose 23 May 2014 11: 30
              0
              And this is definitely not Mr. Bean? I think he chose the wrong profession.
            5. The comment was deleted.
            6. Normal
              Normal 23 May 2014 11: 39
              +1
              Quote: Ptah
              Are there narcologists on the site? Comment please ....

              I'm certainly not a narcologist ...
              But here is a similar condition, and the instance is similar in appearance.

              https://www.google.ru/search?q=трам+пам+пам&oq=Трампапа&aqs=ch


              rome.1.69i57j0.5487j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8


              In general, "TRAM-PAM-PAM!"
            7. pavel_SPB
              pavel_SPB 23 May 2014 12: 12
              +1
              under speed guy.
          3. SANAY
            SANAY 23 May 2014 11: 15
            +1
            Seriously? Infa from where?
    3. MOISEY
      MOISEY 23 May 2014 08: 17
      +6
      In addition, military columns need to be visited by Kolomoisky, something the citizen completely felt like a king in a particular destiny. So after all, and to the nationalization of property is not far.
    4. Civil
      Civil 23 May 2014 08: 27
      -4
      Yes, Strelkov has already admitted that it was ours that they defeated, revenge on them for everything, burn in hell!
      1. Turkir
        Turkir 23 May 2014 08: 40
        +4
        Where did you recognize? Tell me.
      2. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 23 May 2014 09: 12
        +5
        Do not ... tell the truth ...... Strelkov said-What knows whose group shot ukrovoynov. And all ..... do not invent anything now, so it’s difficult to get information!
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. ed65b
        ed65b 23 May 2014 12: 48
        0
        Quote: Civil
        Yes, Strelkov has already admitted that it was ours that they defeated, revenge on them for everything, burn in hell!

        There is infa that Strelkov’s account was hacked yesterday and a lot of things were written on his behalf. And about the fight and the arrest of Ponamarev.
    5. from punk
      from punk 23 May 2014 08: 40
      +7
      Quote: Baikal
      With such arrangements - that day is not far off.

      if in the Ukrainian army there were some brave and not corrupt combat generals. it would be so. but ...
      1. ksv500
        ksv500 23 May 2014 09: 10
        +2
        There was information that these 30 troops were injured and surrendered. They were shot right in the hospital, where they were lying with wounded militias, how many Nazis killed people have no data yet !!! Beast, nonhumans!
      2. SANAY
        SANAY 23 May 2014 11: 20
        -1
        There were determined generals in Taiwan. All is correct.
        1. creak
          creak 23 May 2014 15: 16
          0
          Quote: SANAY
          There were determined generals in Taiwan. All is correct.


          Not everything is wrong - decisive generals were found in Thailand, and he is far enough from Taiwan. request
    6. Blackscorp
      Blackscorp 23 May 2014 09: 15
      +1
      Quote: Baikal
      Arrived, called ... If this is true, this is a complete frostbitten mess.


      This is the usual tactic of the actions of these "leaders" ... first they shot their own people on the Maidan, then in Odessa (disguised lawyers, disguised as Anti-Maidan, shot at ultras, now in the South-East (yesterday it was infa. That 51 brigades, which belonged to the killed, began to move, and before that she refused to fight) ... The usual fascist methods ...
    7. Nayhas
      Nayhas 23 May 2014 09: 29
      -1
      Quote: Baikal
      Arrived, called ... If this is true, this is a complete frostbitten mess.

      After these words, one should look at the news and make sure that the "news" is once again getting creepy. The soldiers were shot by the militia, which they confirmed, they even managed to boast of trophies.
    8. Peter Timofeev
      Peter Timofeev 23 May 2014 10: 22
      0
      Here's what else the junta has to do to be recognized as fascist evil in the West?
    9. SANAY
      SANAY 23 May 2014 11: 11
      +1
      Well then! Everyone knows what war is! Dirt, blood, death. But what would shoot their own! This is not chaos - it is a vivid indicator that the enemy is ferocious and merciless. Surely, punishers have hair on end from their own commanders. Everyone is afraid of everyone, for not obeying reprimands are not announced. All will be tied with blood. The tougher the punisher, the sooner he makes a bloody career. This is not even the law of the jungle, it is purely human, or rather, inhuman. At the sacred level, GOOD fights EVIL. Death to fascism! But Pasaran!
    10. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 23 May 2014 12: 35
      0
      Yes, it's high time to deploy the guns. I do not understand what soldiers expect when real death threatens for "treason"? when there is news, the fighters of the Ukrainian army, no, they did not surrender to the militia, but turned their guns against the punishers and killed 30 fighters of the right sector, the tanks moved to Kiev.
  2. Altona
    Altona 23 May 2014 08: 04
    +4
    Yesterday I watched this report, it’s a shame how it became ... They kill the groomsmen ... Why they will not unite? I understand that, hypothetically, their epaulettes and salaries are in Kiev, but Kiev doesn’t even put them down and pay ...
    1. Lyubimov
      Lyubimov 23 May 2014 08: 19
      +2
      This is how 5 billion American money spent on dermocracy over 23 years of independence comes out of their heads, through a well-known place for many
  3. shyler
    shyler 23 May 2014 08: 05
    +12
    Soldier, how cattle are killed! I can’t understand why there is no will to freedom and truth! Everyone has a weapon, why they don’t answer? Why do not take the side of the militia?
    1. ArhipenkoAndrey
      ArhipenkoAndrey 23 May 2014 08: 28
      +2
      It feels like people can only ride on the outskirts, but they can ride on the Maidan, they don’t want to fight for their lives, because the soldiers were armed with ZSUShka, infantry fighting vehicles and weapons, but they were beaten, I don’t know.
    2. Turkir
      Turkir 23 May 2014 09: 29
      0
      There are no moral principles. So there are no landmarks.
      They hope for "nationality", but Bandera Nazis are NOT UKRAINIANS and NON-PEOPLE.
    3. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx 23 May 2014 09: 36
      +1
      If this is true, then this is a complete degradation of the Ukrainian population. Not the people, but the population. Some shoot for the fact that others do not want to fight. And others calmly allow themselves to be killed. So then who is more of a slave? Are we Russians of any nationality about whom liberals write everywhere that slavery is a genetic condition? Or good Ukrainians? Who goes to slaughter like animals in a meat factory? Who has more pride and freedom? Have ukrov, gayropeytsev, or the RUSSIAN PEOPLE?
  4. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger 23 May 2014 08: 05
    +6
    To say that geeks is to say nothing am
    1. Lyubimov
      Lyubimov 23 May 2014 08: 22
      +3
      It is the degenerates of the Slavic kind ... the German fascists do not look so filthy as their own, even though they are obvious enemies, but these ...
  5. AleksPol
    AleksPol 23 May 2014 08: 06
    +3
    Critters. Hyenas tasted blood. Now only the shooting.
  6. Shurale
    Shurale 23 May 2014 08: 07
    +3
    It’s interesting when, before the Ukrainians, what do Yatsenyuk and his comrades achieve?
    Do not they understand? Or until masked guys and a finger move in their apartment?
    So then it will be too late ....
  7. Roman1970
    Roman1970 23 May 2014 08: 07
    +3
    Here is a bastard ... With such, alas, speaking is useless ... They will only understand the language of power ...
  8. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 23 May 2014 08: 08
    +5
    Some kind of muddy stories began to happen in Ukraine with these shootings of their own :(
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 23 May 2014 08: 39
      +3
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Some kind of muddy stories began to happen in Ukraine

      Why immediately "muddy" ??? belay
      Natural !!! Ordinary Zhiudobanderovskie detachments practice skills.
      Everything develops according to logic and scenario.
      The next step, starting from Monday, is a new "legally elected president" who, on behalf of "his own" name, will call / drag any trash into the country.
      And those Ukrainians who allegedly "have not decided on their position in relation to the party" will have two options, but always with a general leadership. Or at gunpoint go "nach osten", or to the camps ...
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 23 May 2014 10: 10
      0
      Quote: Riperbahn
      Some kind of muddy stories began to happen in Ukraine ...

      And not only not to Ukraine, here is the news that VO censorship has not missed today:
      Homs' evacuation by the rebels was seen as another pearl in the crown of President Assad's success in quelling the rebellion, lasting for four years. After concluding an armistice agreement, thousands of Homs residents fleeing the war returned to the city. Despite the ceasefire agreement, elements of the National Self-Defense Forces and other militias engaged in looting and revenge against elements disloyal to the regime. In social networks, a lot of posts about robberies and looting appeared. It is still not known exactly what caused the shootout in the Hamadiyeh quarter, but residents claim that the reason was the looting of Christian homes by the Self-Defense Forces. In social networks they write that the Self-Defense Forces and Hezbollah did not divide the loot from the residents.
  9. mig31
    mig31 23 May 2014 08: 11
    0
    How to live with this further, I don’t know !!! ???
  10. jovanni
    jovanni 23 May 2014 08: 12
    +6
    Got it. The bandits are already shooting their army, because they don’t want to shoot at the people. Army men need to understand that they will not sit out in the bushes, and not pretend to be a victim. Quickly, the right-wingers themselves and any trash would be transferred.
  11. KOH
    KOH 23 May 2014 08: 13
    +5
    I don’t understand ... Everything with weapons. Riot, a breakthrough to the militias and so on ... - than they will put you on your knees and just shoot you ... Why die just like that, you need at least one su ... to take with you, not so it's a shame. Rusvesna again does not work, what is heard who is in the know?
  12. Predator
    Predator 23 May 2014 08: 14
    +6
    The soldiers of Kiev are simply obliged to turn their weapons against the National Guard and the law enforcement officers. They do not forgive!
  13. the polar
    the polar 23 May 2014 08: 14
    +4
    Some kind of stupidity. If they surrendered, how could they be shot? And where were the militias to whom they surrendered, looked from the side?
  14. krot
    krot 23 May 2014 08: 14
    +1
    It will come back UKRAEM! God sees everything and we will not forget!
  15. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 23 May 2014 08: 15
    +1
    Quote: Riperbahn
    Some kind of muddy stories began to happen in Ukraine with these shootings of their own :(

    And what’s surprising here .. The State Department is putting pressure on the Kiev junta (which is why we pay you money) they are on the military .. (and there is clearly an order to shoot those who do not obey) Blood is pouring on the Russian border and this is the main goal for the State Department!
  16. aleks_29296
    aleks_29296 23 May 2014 08: 15
    +4
    Quote: Altona
    Yesterday I watched this report, it’s a shame how it became ... They kill the groomsmen ... Why they will not unite? I understand that, hypothetically, their epaulettes and salaries are in Kiev, but Kiev doesn’t even put them down and pay ...

    I wrote yesterday that there were no strong personalities in the Ukrainian army able to take responsibility and stop the mess in their country.
  17. pensioner
    pensioner 23 May 2014 08: 16
    +2
    I do not understand Ukrainian soldiers: who are they all there ?? Military people with weapons in their hands or ram sacrificial ??? Why anyone can shoot them at any time ???
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 23 May 2014 09: 02
      +3
      "Friends" drive up. Instruct weapons and ..
      What are you going to do here?
      You just have to have the courage to first understand WHO YOU SERVE?
      Personally, I would leave with a gun in my hands.
      You can not serve scum, criminals, bandits.
      -----
      Moral principles should be in every person. Initial, a normal family instills, the rest is necessary produce yourself. But many people think, even having matured, that these are empty words.
      Military oath, if taken by a person without moral principles, an empty phrase.
      Turchinov received her, moreover, this is a former communist who held responsible posts. Professional careerist, unprincipled person. Oh, yes, I completely forgot, and "good Christian"!
      How does it feel? These are the "violets" - in the middle of the hole - and are at the very top of power and in the service of the United States. Honest people do not sell their homeland.
      Or maybe the Turchinovs, Kalomoisky, Yaroshi, Poroshenko, OTHER MOTHERLAND?
  18. Lyubimov
    Lyubimov 23 May 2014 08: 16
    +5
    And what did they expect from the Nazi punishers that they would serve them cocoa and tea? Someone who is smarter has dumped into the militia for a long time, and let the rest enjoy the right sector, to see only so that the brains will fall into place.
  19. Cosmos1987
    Cosmos1987 23 May 2014 08: 17
    +4
    A Jew is guided by how Ukrainians and Russians kill each other. Heroes of Ukraine, you are not heroes, you are brainless p.i.d.a.r.p.a.s. Glory to Israel ?!
    1. demon184
      demon184 23 May 2014 08: 33
      +2
      They are not led by the Earea, but by the degenerates of the Jewish family, the Jews themselves want to come to fight on the side of the militia.
    2. Alexey N
      Alexey N 23 May 2014 08: 34
      +1
      Are there these Ukrainians in nature?
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 23 May 2014 08: 50
        +5
        Quote: Alexey N
        Are there these Ukrainians in nature?

        There are none of them. Fictional people with artificial language.
      2. KC4E
        KC4E 23 May 2014 09: 15
        +3
        I study the Slavic people, the culture of the Slavs, pre-Christian Russia .... and everything connected with it. So after all the wars of the 20th century, the genetic information of Western Ukrainians was destroyed. That is. they already have a "western" gene (aggressive or soulless). Therefore, now there is a confrontation: eastern Ukraine (Slavs, with a Russian soul) against the West .... Belarus, Vost.Ukraina, Russia-pos
        the ice islands of the people of good (with soul). This is not nonsense ....
        1. Mhpv
          Mhpv 23 May 2014 09: 49
          0
          Quote: KC 4
          So after all the wars of the 20 century, the gene information of Western Ukrainians was destroyed

          This gene is called: "where it is warm there ... oops" and it has been in them from time immemorial.
          1. KC4E
            KC4E 23 May 2014 10: 59
            0
            In plain language, it seems. laughing
        2. andj61
          andj61 23 May 2014 09: 52
          0
          Quote: KC 4
          gene information of western Ukrainians was destroyed.

          They belong to another civilization - Catholic, their faith is different - Unitarian (Greek Catholic). The rest of Ukraine is Orthodox.
          1. KC4E
            KC4E 23 May 2014 10: 50
            0
            Religion with genes cannot be compared. All Ukrainians initially belonged to Slavic tribes and traditions. If you go to the Catholic Church, you will not be more aggressive! Love for materialism (as in the West) does not depend on religion. It depends on a person. He has a soul or not.
      3. KC4E
        KC4E 23 May 2014 20: 20
        0
        In nature, only Rusichi.
  20. Sosed_26
    Sosed_26 23 May 2014 08: 18
    +2
    There are simply no words, it’s just a beast who is convulsing before death. And death is nearby! There is very little left! It took a long time to come (fascism in Ukraine) and it will end much faster !!!
  21. Andrey160479
    Andrey160479 23 May 2014 08: 19
    +8
    There is no will, because the guys are 18 years old. Who himself served the urgent, remembers that you rely on your commander in everything, believe that he knows what to do. But unfortunately their commander himself did not know what to do, but the young guys became hostages of the situation. War is a cruel thing. I would like to believe that other commanders and soldiers will draw certain conclusions. And I hope that our country will finally take a more active part in stabilizing the conflict. In the end, most likely will have to send troops, at least openly, at least somehow. But it clearly smells of genocide. And you’re worthless to our politicians if they give up for some reason these people to the mercy of a gang from Kiev. We need only one victory!
    1. Old warrant officer
      Old warrant officer 23 May 2014 08: 58
      +3
      The political review published a list of executed persons, the youngest of 1990, somehow, are not being drawn to conscripts.
      1. andj61
        andj61 23 May 2014 09: 54
        0
        There was a message that these were partisans called up for training camps.
        True, it was also noted that one of them was a volunteer.
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 23 May 2014 12: 52
          +1
          There are video gatherings of local residents and fighters of the executed post. the commander said that they were reservists assembled and sent there, that they did not want to fight because they also had children and wives. For this reason, they were also involved in offending by spreading the equipment along the road under the trees, etc. Waited for them to be removed.
  22. Baloo_bst
    Baloo_bst 23 May 2014 08: 20
    +4
    Interestingly, what do they tell the parents of dead and wounded soldiers - terrible stories about the monsters of the militias? Not really relatives are not interested in the fate of the called-up soldiers.
    In my time, when a soldier was simply beaten, there was a state of emergency of a garrison scale, and here there are dozens of dead and silence.
  23. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 23 May 2014 08: 22
    +6
    Poor guys, the kingdom of heaven to them, to the murderers - an inevitable retribution.
    There are no words, the heart is bleeding, the soul has already become ill from the news, as the Kiev gang is atrocious, killing the people of their country.
    Although the feeling that it is NOT OWN. Their country is USAa.
  24. HAM
    HAM 23 May 2014 08: 26
    +4
    If now they are "punished" by execution, what will happen when they come to power, where is this fucking Europe with "human rights" obscuring their eyes? !! ​​After May 25, fascist Ukraine, yes, with a small letter "Ukraine" is a moderator trying to correct my mistakes, but this is not a mistake. Guys, if YOU heard what THESE are talking about us on the radio! Yes, okay, we will endure, but they KILL the guys who only live and live !!!!!
  25. Alexey N
    Alexey N 23 May 2014 08: 27
    +5
    The sub-American junta is following the plan. All this was conceived for the sake of a grand slaughter.
  26. storm wind
    storm wind 23 May 2014 08: 31
    +5
    The worst thing in this situation is that there is still no Mass Resistance to the junta !!!!! What prevents the military from refusing to obey the orders of the Nazis to go over to the side of the DPR? When does anyone in power get it? One way or another, then they will also be replaced by punishers.
    And we do not climb anywhere - and do it right!
    1. Alexey N
      Alexey N 23 May 2014 08: 40
      +4
      They (UK officers) will start shooting at their people and soldiers rather than disobeying the order. And it doesn’t matter who orders. For service, for extraordinary ranks. For 30 pieces of silver.
      The land of ensigns "shmatko".
      The edge of the frost pavliks.
      1. PM74
        PM74 23 May 2014 12: 19
        0
        It seems to me that they are afraid for their relatives. Apparently they were very threatened.
    2. HAM
      HAM 23 May 2014 08: 50
      +2
      I will answer your question as best I can: in Ukraine, the brains are so brainwashed that even in such a situation people are unable to adequately assess the state of affairs, people seriously believe that we, Russians, are dropping their soldiers from helicopters and everything else, but for the slightest doubt, the execution. Therefore, it will not come soon. Infoduel we lost.
  27. parus2nik
    parus2nik 23 May 2014 08: 31
    +3
    Apparently, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in relation to themselves, approve of such actions, they are shot by the national guards, and they are silent ..
  28. Revolver
    Revolver 23 May 2014 08: 32
    0
    They did not invent anything new. The idea of ​​detachments is not new. And not even Stalin invented it in 1942 (it was only introduced into use, and not because of a good life, but because of severe necessity), but also the French in 1914. At that time, French troops rattled whole divisions from the Germans. They decided to put machine guns on the escape routes, but a problem arose. The French did not want to shoot at the same French. Therefore, they put it wrong blacks sorry, African Americans, or Arabs from the French colonies in Africa, these torments of conscience did not interfere with firing. But the goal was achieved - the abandonment of positions ceased. Then Trotsky creatively developed this idea, and embodied it at the request of Tukhachevsky in 1918. In all cases, these measures were taken by the command not because of the mental scum (although Trotsky and Tukhachevsky had this abundantly), but almost necessarily out of despair . It is visible to the regime of Yaytsenyukh-Durchinov-Avakov quite sucks, since they went for it. I would like to hope that these detachments will not deter the fur animals, well, those polar foxes who were going to come to this government as a whole, and to each of its members personally.
    1. Klibanophoros
      Klibanophoros 23 May 2014 08: 57
      +1
      This is not a detachment, they do not have the authority to do so. So it’s just a murder, and if there were powers, it would be a courtless execution.
      In 1941, about 70 NKVD officers were shot precisely for this kind of "abuse of office" ...
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 23 May 2014 09: 09
        +1
        Quote: Klibanophoros
        they do not have the authority to do so.

        Let's start with the fact that the "government" has no legitimate powers. Consequently, those whom it sent to carry out punitive operations, from Avakov to the very bottom, to the last right-wing man in NG, do not have them either. And executions for leaving positions, surrender, going over to the side of the enemy, etc. - these are the functions of detachments. The name and presence of a written order is not important.
        1. andj61
          andj61 23 May 2014 09: 58
          0
          The main thing here is the willingness to kill. And they will still blame the militia for this - they are "terrorists"! At the same time, this will contribute to the rallying of THEIR army, and other, truthful information will not reach ordinary soldiers, in any case, not immediately.
      2. Ptah
        Ptah 23 May 2014 09: 10
        0
        Quote: Klibanophoros
        These are not detachments, they do not have the authority to do so. So it's just a kill

        Not at the moment, but next week they will. They will also find justifications for the "scapegoats" in the person of "former" rulers. The "new prez" will, as it were, condemn them, admit mistakes, etc.
        But the executions will stop, Alas ...
        Quote: Nagan
        executions for leaving positions, surrender, transfer to the side of the enemy, etc.

        The wording may differ slightly, which will not affect the facts themselves ...
    2. Turkir
      Turkir 23 May 2014 09: 07
      0
      The detachments and what is happening in Ukraine are two different things.
    3. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 23 May 2014 10: 28
      0
      African Americans... wrong ... you need to say Afro-French!
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  29. smart ass
    smart ass 23 May 2014 08: 33
    +2
    Now you need to remove the wounded soldiers, be sure that they tell on camera, as it really was.
  30. mamont5
    mamont5 23 May 2014 08: 33
    +4
    Yes-ah, the "Ukrainian army" is not an army. She can't even defend herself. What can we say about the people or the country ...
  31. 120352
    120352 23 May 2014 08: 36
    +6
    Something I did not understand. Like this, they shot the surrendered? If the soldiers were captured, they could not be reached by their former commanders, and if they were shot, then they most likely did not surrender, but only intended to do so. The vagueness of the wording gives rise to the multiplicity and ambiguity of conclusions.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 23 May 2014 08: 51
      0
      Quote: 120352
      If the soldiers were captured, they could not be reached by their former commanders, and if they were shot, then they most likely did not surrender, but only intended to do so.

      In principle, if there is something long-range enough, and the prisoners have not yet been escorted to the rear, then it is possible (I mean purely technically, not from the point of view of morality) that they have already surrendered to be shot. The DShK is a very long-range thing, and the CPV is even more so, and both are in service with the Urkaina Armed Forces.
  32. Balamyt
    Balamyt 23 May 2014 08: 36
    +1
    It doesn’t fit my head .... What is happening is beyond understanding! Retribution must be inevitable!
  33. wanderer
    wanderer 23 May 2014 08: 38
    0
    their machi, strangers will be afraid ....... maybe.
  34. cosmonavt
    cosmonavt 23 May 2014 08: 42
    +3
    What difference does the United States whose soldiers to kill-Ukrainian or militias ?! The main thing for them is that fewer people remain in the territory that was previously called Ukraine.
  35. saag
    saag 23 May 2014 08: 43
    +1
    this is such a side effect
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  37. todaygoodday
    todaygoodday 23 May 2014 08: 45
    +1
    Quote: Baikal
    Arrived, called ... If this is true, this is a complete frostbitten mess.
    I remember a video of one soldier who suggested "Turchinov and Co. think, because they can deploy columns to Kiev."
    With such layouts - that day is not far off

    I have no doubt that this is true. Just watch the performance of these frostbitten and everything will fall into place.
  38. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever 23 May 2014 08: 47
    +1
    The Kiev junta received a "murder" mandate from an international terrorist, the United States. Disunity in the ranks of those who do not agree to obey the junta - shows that the junta will shoot all those who disagree with it one by one, and the most "cunning and intelligent" who hope to hide or sit out will still be tied up with "blood" as they do in all gangs or will send them to hard labor later , or maybe he will send organ harvests for transplantation like in Kosovo. This is the ritual of the fascist government. However, not every healthy human psyche is capable of surviving the execution of civilians - without consequences. The result of such a barbaric US policy in the American army is an increase in mental illness and suicide among former military personnel. When a person defends his own or the truth, it is natural for him and this is the law of nature, but when outside of him they are forced to kill old people and children in the name of enriching others, then inside a person there is a confrontation between his inner world, created by his ancestors, and external aggression to betray him ancestors - in any case, the choice is always only for the PERSON. Great is learned in small
  39. Flanker717
    Flanker717 23 May 2014 08: 52
    0
    Battalion "white tights" in action
  40. armageddon
    armageddon 23 May 2014 08: 57
    0
    Quote: Baikal
    Arrived, called ... If this is true, this is a complete frostbitten mess.
    I remember a video of one soldier who suggested "Turchinov and Co. think, because they can deploy columns to Kiev."
    With such arrangements - that day is not far off.

    The goal of one dissent is to intimidate !!! BUT this will cause the opposite REACTION !!!
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 23 May 2014 09: 14
      +1
      Quote: Armagedon
      will cause a REVERSE REACTION !!!

      Hardly .... You suggest, recalling the "experience of previous generations" ...
      "Yes. There were people in our time.
      Not that the current tribe.
      Bogatyrs ... "
      (c) ... Alas ...
    2. andj61
      andj61 23 May 2014 10: 01
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      Of course it will. If only the truth comes to these dissenters, and not the interpretation of events performed by ukroSMI.
  41. Aslan
    Aslan 23 May 2014 09: 04
    0
    after these events, we are waiting for the sobering Ukrainian. officers, and deploying guns at 180 degrees.
  42. made13
    made13 23 May 2014 09: 05
    +3
    Everyone thinks that if this happens, then not with him. Brain liquefaction in action.
  43. morpogr
    morpogr 23 May 2014 09: 05
    +1
    Just soulless creatures at all costs want to bleed the people.
  44. APS
    APS 23 May 2014 09: 06
    +1
    The Nazis came to kill, scoff, and rob with impunity. Destroy them! The soldiers go to the militia and burn away before leaving, spoil everything that cannot be taken away, and if possible then shoot these fascists, for comrades! For Mariupol! For Odessa! For .... Is it really not clear who is in power, and by what methods they affect people! It is already known that these punishers act with the permission of the authorities! And those soldiers who disagree with them are shot! And civilians are being harnessed, beaten, and with mortars! This is not a service to the motherland! This junta service!
  45. SBC
    SBC 23 May 2014 09: 07
    0
    Ukrov has vanity in the blood, so Lyashko, etc. will not stop there ... "Grads" for them is a festive fireworks display before the "elections".
  46. KALININGRAD
    KALININGRAD 23 May 2014 09: 14
    +1
    This is most likely Germans or Americans
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  48. Giant thought
    Giant thought 23 May 2014 09: 18
    0
    Method of fascist German SS forces.
  49. Nayhas
    Nayhas 23 May 2014 09: 18
    0
    It is not clear from whose nose Vesti is picking the news. But a question to everyone who unsubscribed with angry curses. Head on your shoulders? In the photo there is a soldier who died near Volnovakha, where the "militias" smashed the "checkpoint" of the Ukrainian military. The "militias" themselves have already admitted this and boasted of trophies. What a dance on the bones?
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 23 May 2014 12: 54
      0
      Quote: Nayhas
      It is not clear from whose nose Vesti is picking the news. But a question to everyone who unsubscribed with angry curses. Head on your shoulders? In the photo there is a soldier who died near Volnovakha, where the "militias" smashed the "checkpoint" of the Ukrainian military. The "militias" themselves have already admitted this and boasted of trophies. What a dance on the bones?

      Who confessed and when?
  50. Voinnet
    Voinnet 23 May 2014 09: 18
    +1
    Mother of God! Very crazy! Burn them in hell!
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