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The Kiev junta has two options ... Both are losing ...

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Everyone is interested in one question. Will the junta decide on the use of the entire mass of heavy military equipment, including the MLRS, in the cities of the Southeast (DNR and LC)? After all, before the election, the so-called. President of Ukraine is only two days.


The Kiev junta has two options ... Both are losing ...


I quote Igor Ivanovich Strelkov’s comment:

"They will decide if they finally believe that Russia will not intervene. They will immediately decide. I even sympathize with these freaks (if you can say so about the people I would gladly send to the gallows). They have an alternative:

1) to start a war, get a deafening blow from Russia and, hitting the final project of Ukraine, sink into oblivion (in emigration)

2) do not start a large-scale war, stretch time and ... sink into oblivion without any war along with the "Ukraine project" simply as a result of self-destruction (because a defeat in the ATO will automatically lead to the "collapse" of all this stillborn "Square").

Both options have their advantages and disadvantages.

In the second version, the enemy can hope that with the help of his agents, the “self-proclaimed republics” will not be able to build anything and will fall into the swamp of continuous crime and economic crisis on their own. But "not a fact" - the same was predicted for the Crimea. However, Russia has enough in the accounts of "candy wrappers" to prevent this scenario. And because the plan is largely flawed.

But the first option - "at random" ("Putin is chilling", etc.), for all his riskiness, is very seductive. Roll out "separatists and terrorists" "like God to the tortoise" and enter history this historical misunderstanding (Ukraine) as the "winners of Russia". It would be cool! Wow This even Mazepa failed! Arsen Avakov (judging by his “twitter”) is an extremely vain man. Well, just oh, very! He is definitely "for!". Indeed, for such a "knowledgeable and expansive crest", Ukraine is just a "playing field", no more. What is Ukraine? Not a mother, not a wife and not a lover (s). So, one country, where he accidentally and temporarily was lucky to become one of the highest officials and "go down in history." Nalyvaychenko and Turchinov are direct proteges of the United States and also "for" try. Yatsenyuk - just a coward (he wisely pushed away from the management of the operation).

So no wonder they are driving here "Hurricanes".
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  1. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 23 May 2014 06: 00
    +13
    Both options for residents in the Southeast may end badly.

    This is how the video of yesterday’s rout of their troops was promised

    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 23 May 2014 06: 19
      +10
      Does anyone know anything?
      23 May 2014, 02: 05 (Moscow time) | Politics | RIA News
      Lugansk militias: the Ukrainian military shot the wounded in the hospital

      “They (the Ukrainian military) went to the hospital and shot the wounded,” said Cherny. He specified that both militias and the Ukrainian military were in the hospital
      http://news.mail.ru/politics/18294034/
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 23 May 2014 11: 28
        +1
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        This is how the video of yesterday’s rout of their troops was promised

        Do I understand correctly? Yesterday it was asserted that there were 51 Zapadenskiye snouts at this "checkpoint". Then someone rode up and began to wet them with grenade launchers and machine guns. So, as a result, 16 dead and 32 wounded were presented somewhere. But on this shoot at the time of the work of the turntables a lot of ukrovoyak still in full health. Those. have they already been shot from turntables?
        1. ultra
          ultra 23 May 2014 13: 24
          +2
          Evening summary Strelkov II in Slavyansk for May 22, 2014
          "Evening summary of Slavyansk.
          The mutual lull continued for most of the day. But in the evening, as expected (as usual), Ukrainians got drunk on beer and went to shoot at our positions in Semenovka on BMP-2. Pretty brazenly and long shot. Then our BMD-1 came into action - it shot all the ammunition at the opposite roadblock (on the road to Krasny Liman) - there something was sunburned and exploded, and the enemy infantry fighting vehicle chose to hide under the bridge. While the court and the case, our patrol went to the edge of the private sector, launched 4 VOGs. It seems successful - there were screams.

          According to unverified information, an enemy spotter was shot at the Salzavod. But it is necessary to clarify - here, in spite of the shelling, there is a mass of idle civilized people ... especially a lot of "blue".

          There is a funeral in Vostochny tomorrow - the Ukrainians, shooting Karpovka last night, killed a whole family of three. By chance. They simply riddled the house, which somehow suddenly found itself in the line of fire. And they simply "shot through" the area.

          Now every 15 minutes heavy howitzers (152-mm) are being hit with volleys. They carefully send 4 or 8 rounds across Semyonovka. It is unrealistic to get them with the means we have - so they can calmly continue their dirty business. So far we have no losses. By the way - the guns are served by army men. And yesterday they fired, and the day before yesterday. This means that "the boys were forcibly driven to fight and they must be pitied." Violently - not violently. but they are fighting ... So, "in war - as in war!"

          I know no more about the Luhansk region than yours - accordingly, no comment. "
        2. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 23 May 2014 18: 23
          0
          Quote: Nikolay S.
          Do I understand correctly? Yesterday it was asserted that there were 51 Zapadenskiye snouts at this "checkpoint". Then someone rode up and began to wet them with grenade launchers and machine guns. So, as a result, 16 dead and 32 wounded were presented somewhere. But on this shoot at the time of the work of the turntables a lot of ukrovoyak still in full health. Those. have they already been shot from turntables?

          You have confused the number of people with the name of the brigade - the 51st mechanized volunteer brigade. And yes, that's right, they collected the wounded, and then the turntables came flying.
    2. Wels75
      Wels75 23 May 2014 08: 09
      +17
      US accuses “pro-Russian separatists” in Ukraine of assaulting government troops

      US accuses “pro-Russian separatists” in Ukraine of assaulting government troops US State Department spokesman Jen Psaki accuses federal supporters in Ukraine of killing government troops in the east. “At least eight Ukrainian servicemen were killed and dozens injured as a result of the separatists attacking a checkpoint outside of Donetsk,” the State Department website quotes the briefing.

      The militia also, according to her, attacked the Ukrainian border detachment in Lugansk, as a result of which six border guards were injured. Elsewhere in Lugansk, supporters of federalization also killed one and injured two Ukrainian servicemen, said Psaki, citing words from border guards. They claimed that the firing was conducted from three trucks and a car, which tried to illegally enter Ukraine from Russia.

      “We condemn today's attacks in eastern Ukraine by pro-Russian separatists that killed a number of Ukrainian troops and injured dozens,” said Psaki. “The calls of the separatists for Russian military intervention to protect the civilian population are simply ridiculous,” the representative of the State Department said.

      At the same time, Psaki does not see a direct threat to the upcoming May 25 presidential elections in Ukraine. “We have long believed that there is a strong connection between Russia and the Russian separatists in Ukraine, and here the situation has not changed. This is happening in a small number of regions, ”she explained, adding that thousands of observers work in the field and“ we are going to take all measures in the coming days to provide people with the opportunity to vote. ” Even in Donetsk, Lugansk, where clashes took place, as well as in Slavyansk, supporters of federalization occupied only a few dozen separate buildings, while the population of the region is more than 6 million people. According to the State Statistics Committee of Ukraine as of September 1, 2013, the population of the Donetsk region amounted to 4,356 million people. The population of Ukraine as of April 1, 2014 amounted to 45,378 million people.


      Read on: http://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/26874361/ssha-obvinyayut-prorossijskih-sep
      aratistov-na-ukraine-v # ixzz32VZpULql

      Which was to be expected again! Russia and Russian agents are evil in all of Ukraine !! In pancake psaknula duck psaknula
      1. Kushadasov
        Kushadasov 23 May 2014 10: 18
        +6
        US accuses “pro-Russian separatists” in Ukraine of assaulting government troops


        psaki must be completely frank. if these are "pro-Russian separatists", then those are "pro-American government troops."
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      3. xan
        xan 23 May 2014 12: 00
        +5
        Quote: Veles75
        In pancake psaknula duck psaknula

        Yes, Psaki is just a legendary chick! Personally, her red-haired appearance and "stupidity, said with a clever air" starts to excite me a little.
        1. sssla
          sssla 23 May 2014 12: 23
          +1
          Quote: xan
          Personally, her red-haired appearance and "stupidity, said with a clever air" starts to excite me a little.

          1 + 1 you're not alone)))
        2. Alex2014
          Alex2014 23 May 2014 13: 00
          +1
          About to excite not got excited? Or seriously? ..
          1. xan
            xan 23 May 2014 13: 14
            +6
            Quote: Alex2014
            About to excite not got excited? Or seriously? ..

            Hands off Psaki! Redhead Ginny is doing her best in her fight to discredit the American system. Well, they will remove it and put some clever nerd - will it make it easier for us?
            Once again for the slow-witted - Psaki is our man in Fashington!
            And about the female beauty of Psaki - I would try to give her vodka, I have no doubt she’s a vigorous woman.
        3. persei
          persei 23 May 2014 14: 01
          +1
          but what is surprising if, often, the representative of the US State Department, speaking of Ukraine, does not know where it is located.
          1. OTTO
            OTTO 23 May 2014 15: 26
            0
            Quote: persei
            ... the representative of the US State Department, speaking of Ukraine, does not know where it is located.
            But she doesn’t know much that she wrote it on a piece of paper and read it.
      4. andj61
        andj61 23 May 2014 12: 11
        +9
        - Grandmother, why did you and your grandfather call your dog so strange - Psaki?
        “Yes, she’s just as petty, naughty, and crap, anywhere!”
        1. IOwTZ
          IOwTZ 23 May 2014 13: 41
          +1
          Quote: andj61
          - Grandmother, why did you and your grandfather call your dog so strange - Psaki?
          “Yes, she’s just as petty, naughty, and crap, anywhere!”


          Riddle: I left my grandmother, did I leave my grandfather?
    3. yushch
      yushch 23 May 2014 10: 09
      +5
      It is very reminiscent of the confusion in the first Chechen one, there is no connection with the air, where ours are not ours. If it weren’t for mobile phones there would be a priest. Ukraine passes our way with a delay of twenty years.
    4. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 23 May 2014 10: 12
      +1
      This is how the video of yesterday’s rout of their troops was promised
      I think that if the pilots are inwardly sympathetic to the DPR, then the order to shoot their supposedly traitors can be executed with special zeal.
    5. Grabberxnumx
      Grabberxnumx 23 May 2014 11: 44
      +4
      Yes, they have a rather strange idea of ​​defense tactics during an air attack - they drove ZIL to the FIELD! It’s necessary in the green. They sit in a heap like sheep - you need to disperse over the green. No radio. The mess is complete!
      1. AnaBat
        AnaBat 23 May 2014 17: 05
        0
        Interrogation of a contractor captured near Novodruzhsk (Lugansk region) on May 22 soldier

        http://rusvesna.su/news/1400833348
    6. Ross
      Ross 23 May 2014 18: 04
      +4
      A new message from Strelkova ... It looks like the junta was made in Slavyansk ...
      Message from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich from 23 May 2014


      23 May 2014. 15H 30 min.

      “The enemy began to move infantry and armored vehicles to their initial positions for attack.
      In the morning, a column of tanks and armored personnel carriers (about 30 units in total) advanced from Robin to Semyonovka. Now there is an accumulation of infantry (several hundred people) and an armored troop-carrier in Bylbasovka. On the side of the Feed Mill, the 8 BTR and several hundred infantry also advanced.
      They carried out a fire raid on artillery positions on the reverse slope of Karachun. 8 shells from "Nona". Something detonated strongly with a plume of black smoke. The enemy responded with howitzers smashed two houses and a car wash near the bridge over the Kazenny Torets. There are no casualties among the population, but at the spontaneous rally there are already proposals to "get out of here." No wonder ... people are quite understandable and absolutely cannot be blamed for anything. However, I would like to hear that they will speak in a week after (if) we "clean up" ... "
  2. Vlad Gore
    Vlad Gore 23 May 2014 06: 05
    +7
    Banderlogs do not know how to go into frontal attacks. And only in this way wars are won. Their lot is because of the corner and stealth. Even a numerical superiority does not help them. yes
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 23 May 2014 06: 10
      +5
      Quote: Vlad Gore
      Banderlogs do not know how to go into frontal attacks. And only in this way wars are won. Their lot is because of the corner and stealth. Even a numerical superiority does not help them. yes


      Victory will not win, but a lot of blood can be shed. At least the same "Hurricanes". Then, however, their turn will come, but they do not think about it. While...
      1. persei
        persei 23 May 2014 14: 07
        0
        but in general it is necessary, if forces allow, to go to raids on the places of deployment of the National Guard, to seize the initiative ....
    2. Predator
      Predator 23 May 2014 06: 15
      +24
      What kind of frontal ?! This nonsense of all still in World War II knocked out. It’s only ignoramuses and rams go to frontal attacks!
    3. mad
      mad 23 May 2014 06: 35
      +9
      The frontal ones, like the "psychic" ones, remained in past wars, with dense automatic fire, and a couple of Cliffs along the flanks, the entire HP will fall.
      But young people from the National Guard received military training in computer shooters and imagined themselves to be tough fighters, only when they got into a real clash fell into a stupor. Now they are trying to fight either with an unarmed civilian population or with their own soldiers using the effect of surprise.
      1. chehywed
        chehywed 23 May 2014 07: 56
        +28
        Quote: mad
        But young people from the National Guard received military training in computer shooters and imagined themselves to be tough fighters, only when they got into a real clash fell into a stupor.

        It seems that the way it is ...
        1. Barakuda
          Barakuda 23 May 2014 08: 27
          +31
          No need to go far. I’m familiar with me, I drove in Russia about 15 years old, enrolled in the National Guard. Arrived, deserted yesterday. All gray, shoulder darned, some kind of combat tattoo, words can not be squeezed out. And already disappeared somewhere in the morning ..
          1. xan
            xan 23 May 2014 12: 32
            +9
            Quote: Barracuda
            No need to go far. I’m familiar with me, I drove in Russia about 15 years old, enrolled in the National Guard. Arrived, deserted yesterday. All gray, shoulder darned, some kind of combat tattoo, words can not be squeezed out. And already disappeared somewhere in the morning ..

            A bullet changes a lot in the head, even if it hits your ass (Al Capone).
        2. aleks 62
          aleks 62 23 May 2014 16: 46
          +3
          ..... The great German Jew Karl Marx was right - the beat gives rise to consciousness .... :)))))
    4. Kazakh
      Kazakh 23 May 2014 06: 39
      +5
      Quote: Vlad Gore
      Banderlogs do not know how to go into frontal attacks. And only in this way wars are won. Their lot is because of the corner and stealth. Even a numerical superiority does not help them.

      In military terminology, there are no concepts "from around the corner and surreptitiously" smile In this case there was a raid
      1. knn54
        knn54 23 May 2014 11: 12
        +1
        -Nalivaichenko and Turchinov are direct protégés of the United States and are also in favor of trying. Yatsenyuk is just a coward ...
        Well, like a Coward, Experienced, Dunce ...
        -Banderlogs do not know how to go into frontal attacks.
        And as punishers and warders just right.
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    5. Canep
      Canep 23 May 2014 06: 48
      +14
      Quote: Vlad Gore
      Banderlogs do not know how to go into frontal attacks.

      The 14th SS Galicia Waffen-Grenadier Division was used only once against the Red Army troops and lasted 40 minutes. The losses amounted to about 40% l / s. After that, this division was understaffed and used exclusively in punitive operations, with the exception of the last days
      On March 30, the division was transferred to the disposal of the 1st Cavalry Corps and from April 7, 1945, it was involved in defensive operations in the Feldbach region (Austria). From mid-April 1945, it was transferred to the 4th SS Panzer Corps. During their stay at the front, 98 division soldiers deserted. [7]
      and they spent five days at the front.
      1. avia12005
        avia12005 23 May 2014 09: 19
        +6
        I apologize, 60 percent of personnel for 40 minutes)))
      2. avia12005
        avia12005 23 May 2014 09: 19
        0
        I apologize, 60 percent of personnel for 40 minutes)))
        1. aleks 62
          aleks 62 23 May 2014 16: 43
          +2
          .... The battalion of punitive "Dnepr" almost reached the record of grandfathers ..... :))))))
      3. Lyubimov
        Lyubimov 23 May 2014 09: 54
        +1
        Too bad not 100%
    6. Andersen68
      Andersen68 23 May 2014 09: 30
      +1
      I agree, as rats can only manifest themselves.
    7. Not angry
      Not angry 23 May 2014 10: 29
      +2
      Quote: Vlad Gore
      Banderlogs do not know how to go into frontal attacks. And only in this way wars are won. Their lot is because of the corner and stealth. Even a numerical superiority does not help them.



      Yes, this is not Maidan where there was all permissiveness and complete irresponsibility of the opposite side. Here, on the contrary, we call them.
      1. xan
        xan 23 May 2014 12: 36
        +1
        Ukrainians can only fight normally with the Russians and for the Russians. And against the Russians do not know how.
  3. Tatarus
    Tatarus 23 May 2014 06: 06
    +4
    http://warfiles.ru/57630-igor-strelkov-o-sobytiyah-22-maya-i-ne-tolko.html

    Comment of Igor Ivanovich on the information that Strelkov allegedly arrested the people's mayor of Slavyansk Ponomaryov:

    "No, he didn’t arrest him. He only completely disarmed his guards and his entourage. So that they could stop being limitless. There should be only one military power."

    Somehow I missed. Who owns the information?
    1. SibRUS
      SibRUS 23 May 2014 06: 58
      +8
      "People's Mayor" of Slavyansk Vyacheslav Ponomarev denied rumors about his arrest by Igor Strelkov. On May 22, "Dozhd" reports this with reference to the mayor himself.
      "There are two old friends, good comrades. How will my good old friend arrest me if we do a common cause with him? I have never had conflicts with Comrade Strelkov, and never will," said Ponomarev.

      link: http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1597521.html
      1. Wels75
        Wels75 23 May 2014 08: 41
        +3
        Even no one doubted that the next vb.ros of the o.v.n.a was !!!!
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  4. Pitman
    Pitman 23 May 2014 06: 13
    +5
    These freaks have nothing sacred !!! They will give the order and pour a lot of innocent blood ...... God bless you !!! Everyone will be rewarded according to their desires !!!
  5. nvv
    nvv 23 May 2014 06: 15
    +9
    I am not a supporter of the introduction of Russian troops. But the moment is just cool. The main thing is that they would not have time to run away. And then look for fistulas.
    1. vfck
      vfck 23 May 2014 06: 38
      +3
      Well, here you should not worry, sooner or later we will find :)
    2. xan
      xan 23 May 2014 12: 40
      +1
      Quote: nvv
      I am not a supporter of the introduction of Russian troops. But the moment is just cool. The main thing is that they would not have time to run away. And then look for fistulas.

      Don’t talk! So to speak, to force the world, and while Psaki opens his mouth, he should already be on his territory, leaving the rest to the militias.
      1. ermolai
        ermolai 23 May 2014 16: 28
        0
        Psaki will open his mouth
        well, there’s an empty banana
  6. mamont5
    mamont5 23 May 2014 06: 16
    +11
    Here's another. Velikoukry, it seems, are already preparing for a guerrilla war.

    "Breeding larvae: A model of the UPA cache was opened for schoolchildren in Lviv school No. 93
    May 22 in 15: 00 in the Lviv school number 93 opened the layout of the UPA caches. The initiator of its creation was the "Nationalist Youth Congress." The school directorate allocated a separate room for the crypt. This room will tell the life of the rebels, students will be able to see how UPA fighters lived and fought. Schoolchildren themselves joined the construction of the crypt.
    93-I school has become the second school in Lviv, in which there is a model of this cache. In December 2011, a similar den appeared at school No. 21.
    http://warfiles.ru/show-57628-vo-lvovskoy-shkole-93-dlya-shkolnikov-otkryli-make
    t-shrona-upa.html
    1. polly
      polly 23 May 2014 07: 02
      +7
      Quote: mamont5
      In Lviv school number 93 for students opened the layout of the UPA caches

      Well, good constructions are obtained, the skill of the grandchildren of the Nazi minions is not lost. Maybe you still have to celebrate your housewarming party, so teach your children too - bring up a worthy Bender Youth! (Hitler-Jugend) Only do EUROPEAN REPAIR ... wink
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 23 May 2014 09: 28
      +3
      Quote: mamont5
      : In Lviv school number 93 for students opened a layout of the UPA caches

      Well, did the schoolchildren like the cache: without the Internet and a toilet with a flush; without a smartphone, electronic "shooters", a microwave oven (the list can be continued); "McDonald's" is not around? And also tell them that if they behave badly, they can spend more than one year there.
    3. Favor
      Favor 23 May 2014 11: 04
      +2
      And they did not close these caches. Until today, they stand like "museums".
      1. Grenader
        Grenader 23 May 2014 14: 28
        +2
        Banderlogs will smell that the good old days will come, just like in a joke:
        The meeting of the Supreme Council. Speaker:

        - Words asks the former Bandera Panas Golovko.

        Screams from places:

        - Not! Bandera do not give a word!

        “But he wants to speak on an environmental topic.”

        “Then let him speak.”

        “Boys, take care of the forests!” You still have to hack and hoot!
    4. aleks 62
      aleks 62 23 May 2014 16: 49
      +2
      .... Next in line is the model of the cemetery of the UPA warrior .... In each school .... In the Western region .... :)))))))
  7. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 23 May 2014 06: 28
    +2
    If Strelkov succeeds in encircling at least a significant part of the junta army near Slavyansk, having selected equipment and weapons, Kiev will end. Everyone will run from the Southeast.
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 23 May 2014 07: 02
      +11
      How do you imagine this: with 1000 militias surrounding the thousands of groups with equipment and helicopters?
  8. gandalf
    gandalf 23 May 2014 07: 01
    +5
    Shooters and Bolotov - Minin and Pozharsky of modern history ...
  9. sv68
    sv68 23 May 2014 07: 08
    +2
    the technology would be in Slovyansk-tanks or self-propelled guns of a company of two and a company of pinocchio. then the junta will recognize the third option - complete destruction without any mercy
  10. pensioner
    pensioner 23 May 2014 07: 15
    +17
    The junta, of course, is weak. But it is precisely this weakness that makes it dangerous. Terror - this is how the junta can compensate for its military weakness. Incredible cruelty instill fear and horror in the minds of citizens of Ukraine, suppress their will to resist. They have enough strength for this.
    And I wish good luck to Strelov and his comrades.
    1. fedorovith
      fedorovith 24 May 2014 01: 20
      0
      They are glad to block them all in the hall, and burn, so that they would remember Odessa
  11. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 23 May 2014 07: 20
    +4
    Really, it will be difficult for the guys! Martial law had to be introduced early, immediately after the referendum, but it was clear there was no time, in view of the small number of rebels and organizational turmoil. In addition, the actions of the local "fifth column" cannot be ruled out. If the people rise from their knees and join the ranks of the "Strelkovites", then the chance is not small, but if there is no support, the "Banderlog" will crush the militia in bulk.
  12. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 23 May 2014 07: 31
    +2
    In my opinion, the song sung, the performance was disgusting, there was nothing to wait for, they didn’t grow anything, the EU, the USA, I must admit, these countries give birth to non-viable projects and this is all over the world, so it's time to forge the suitcases and go!
  13. Polarfox
    Polarfox 23 May 2014 07: 46
    +5
    Actually, something crazy is going on even against the background of the insanity that has been happening since April. RIA-Novosti reports on the execution by Ukrainian security forces of 30 of their warriors, captured and released by the rebels. About the shooting of the wounded in the hospital, among which were both rebels and Ukrainian security forces. What is agony in all its inhumanity? After all, these are war crimes, the performers of which are known by name. What are they counting on?
    1. Wolves
      Wolves 23 May 2014 07: 57
      -18%
      Terrorists need the intervention of the Russian Federation, so they provoke the Ukrainian army to fire from Grad as Georgians in Tskhinvali - such a tactic. Without the introduction of troops, they are in failure - the population does not support them.
    2. ermolai
      ermolai 23 May 2014 16: 47
      0
      on the fact that the rest will go to the shooter, they see agents of the Kremlin not looking there, the Kolomoye chief agent
  14. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 23 May 2014 08: 00
    +4
    Forecasts are a thankless task. What will happen tomorrow time will tell. Who is who in this conflict is known. Americans with hohlonatsik predictions in their obstinacy. GDP is unpredictable for them. What makes this game very entertaining. The only bad thing is that ordinary people suffer. But after all, a struggle is being waged for these people. Good luck to Strelkov.
  15. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 23 May 2014 09: 05
    +1
    Variants are options, and the opportunity to get "over the head" not empty fears of "pravosek-lumberjacks", it is worth recalling the hysteria of Kiev about "Aviadarts-2014." "for real purposes. That's why I think that the punishers are afraid to use MLRS and heavy weapons against South-Eastern Ukraine!
    1. ermolai
      ermolai 23 May 2014 16: 51
      0
      well this is for the finale
  16. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 23 May 2014 09: 31
    +5
    Information for thought - can be refuted.
    1. Gorinich
      Gorinich 23 May 2014 10: 54
      +1
      Sad information for consideration ...
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  18. Vlad Gore
    Vlad Gore 23 May 2014 09: 39
    +1
    Quote: Predator
    What kind of frontal ?! This nonsense of all still in World War II knocked out. It’s only ignoramuses and rams go to frontal attacks!

    Ignoramuses and rams are washed away by dust with multiple launch rocket systems. Like in Tskhinval. In another they do not know how. hi
  19. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 23 May 2014 09: 39
    +3
    Information for thought: the "hero" of the story was seized by the siloviki as soon as he went to Slavyansk. Then he was released and, I think, he immediately "gave a deer." Where did he get such "intimate" details about the leadership of the DPR and LPR?
  20. Giant thought
    Giant thought 23 May 2014 09: 52
    0
    Any option with a sequel will end in the end as gallows for the leaders of the fascist junta.
  21. marder4
    marder4 23 May 2014 10: 15
    +2
    the use of the "Grad" installations, these are mountains of corpses, and among the civilian population - it sounds somehow creepy ...
  22. siberalt
    siberalt 23 May 2014 10: 19
    +1
    An international security conference is underway on Russia 24.
  23. Gypsy girl
    Gypsy girl 23 May 2014 10: 24
    +1
    I would like to hope that it will not come to the use of "Grad" ...
  24. fox21h
    fox21h 23 May 2014 10: 51
    +3
    Quote: Wolves
    Terrorists need the intervention of the Russian Federation, so they provoke the Ukrainian army to fire from Grad as Georgians in Tskhinvali - such a tactic. Without the introduction of troops, they are in failure - the population does not support them.

    Do you have any brains at all? Or are you another "Crimean", the daughter of an "officer"?
  25. Alf
    Alf 23 May 2014 11: 29
    +3
    We urgently need to give up before it's too late!
  26. Alf
    Alf 23 May 2014 11: 31
    +2
    And the continuation. I’ll go collect money, documents and take a train ticket.
    1. tokin1959
      tokin1959 23 May 2014 13: 22
      +1
      ndya already))))
      Hitler’s plans were more modest.
  27. Stasi
    Stasi 23 May 2014 11: 50
    +2
    To be honest, looking at the news, one gets the impression that the militias are waging a purely defensive war against the troops of the junta. The worst thing is that there is no unity and interaction between the militias of Kramatorsk, Donetsk and other cities, which plays into the hands of the right-wing people. Meanwhile, the situation is getting more complicated, since Grady and other multiple launch rocket systems are being brought up. To prevent their use, the militia should destroy these systems by organizing a night raid. And in general, they perfectly know their area, all paths and roads. They may well organize a guerrilla war against the troops of the junta, setting up ambushes, night attacks and hunting for pravosek, using captured weapons and equipment as trophies. But all this is something that is not visible, otherwise the blockade of Slavyansk and other cities of the South-East would have ceased to exist long ago, and the so-called ATO itself, and in fact, the war against the people began to decline. If the militias do not take tough and decisive action, the junta forces will sweep them into dust.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 23 May 2014 15: 38
      +2
      Quote: Stasi
      Meanwhile, the situation is getting more complicated, since Grady and other multiple launch rocket systems are being brought up. To prevent their use, the militia should destroy these systems by organizing a night raid. And in general, they perfectly know their area, all paths and roads. They are quite

      M-d-ah! I read these lines and dreamed: "Quiet Ukrainian night. Ukro-army men, having drunk American dry rations under the muttering:" I'll get hungry, remember Novodvorskaya ", go to bed. They spent the whole day under the scorching sun and now they are happy to take off their bulletproof vests, unloading, etc. ammunition and thrown further to the side. The weapon is also folded further to the side, so as not to irritate with the heated metal. For the same reason, the soldiers go to sleep as far as possible from the armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles. Soon over the camp is heard friendly snore. A lone sentry, looking back at the camp, muttering: "What do I need more than anyone else?", hides the AK under a shock of hay and goes to the river, from where the screeching of bathing rural girls was heard .... Pull-I Don't Want!
  28. sinukvl
    sinukvl 23 May 2014 12: 01
    +2
    So Kolomoytsy got the most I can not.
    Volunteer battalion "Donbass", formed in the Dnipropetrovsk region to fight supporters of the so-called Donetsk People's Republic, was ambushed near the village of Karlovka. His commander Semyon Semenchenko announced this on his Facebook.
    According to him, the Donbass fighters came under fire from machine guns and grenade launchers, snipers acted against them, and militiamen and armored personnel carriers pulled up. As Semenchenko said, some of his people were surrounded.
    The commander of the "Donbass" asked for help from the military, who built a checkpoint not far from the battlefield. Semenchenko claims that his appeals to the command were not heard
    Later
    Semenchenko said that part of the battalion remained under fire: "The connection was interrupted, the soldiers are running out of cartridges."
    Semenchenko said that among his subordinates 50% of the personnel were wounded. The injured were taken to an army checkpoint. "I am sure that the route of our movement was known in advance. Well-trained Chechen detachments are working against us," said the commander of the Donbass.
    Read more: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/23/05/2014/925730.shtml


    Everyone will be rewarded according to his deeds!
  29. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 23 May 2014 12: 20
    +2
    Quote: Barracuda
    No need to go far. I’m familiar with me, I drove in Russia about 15 years old, enrolled in the National Guard. Arrived, deserted yesterday. All gray, shoulder darned, some kind of combat tattoo, words can not be squeezed out. And already disappeared somewhere in the morning ..

    Well, probably the supervising authorities quickly worked out the question with your friend bully
  30. Lukich
    Lukich 23 May 2014 13: 04
    +5
    the ships are all about .. bly, and you can’t swim on boats anymore. choose not choose, but the junta has one end, the gallows.
  31. Black cat
    Black cat 23 May 2014 14: 10
    0
    Arsen Avakov- purebred Ukrainian name. Ah ha ha
    These ghouls need to be cleaned in their ranks ... For thoroughbred ....
  32. Aleksey11
    Aleksey11 23 May 2014 14: 26
    +1
    One wish - take care of Strelkov, the uniform should not stand out, the armor is obligatory and the cap, like everyone else, is better to wear. Strengthen the security and not "walk" in open areas. Wait, I feel that they will definitely solve the "problems" of the Khuntari.
  33. Turk
    Turk 23 May 2014 15: 21
    0
    Quote: persei
    but what is surprising if, often, the representative of the US State Department, speaking of Ukraine, does not know where it is located.

    But they know them in person
  34. bda
    bda 23 May 2014 15: 41
    0
    They will decide / use all available military means against the population of Donbass / if they finally believe that Russia will not intervene

    Russia has been convincing them all day that they will not intervene, but they all do not believe (they demand that their reconnaissance aircraft fly over, or something else).
  35. bda
    bda 23 May 2014 15: 53
    +2
    Quote: Wolves
    To terrorists RF intervention necessary

    Gentlemen, observe the terminology:
    either I.I. Strelkov's people are called terrorists either by our foreign enemies or by internal ideological fagots / the term is such a medical term of ancient Greek origin, from where it later came to classical Latin /.
  36. navara399
    navara399 23 May 2014 16: 50
    0
    It seems to me that the Shooter is disingenuous that he cannot reach the positions of the artillery systems. Having applied the Hurricanes, the Nazis will sign their own death warrant. And if he covers these attitudes himself, then ours will generally calm down: - "Everything is fine Igor, well done, let's go in the same rhythm, in our souls we are with you ..." and so on.
  37. Aleksey11
    Aleksey11 23 May 2014 19: 45
    0
    Wishing to contact