Russian biathletes with domestic rifles from Kalashnikov

At the reporting and election conference in Moscow, a sports functionary Vadim Melikhov said that in the near future a transition of Russian biathletes with the use of weapons foreign production of weapons produced in Russia. This is reported by the portal. http://rsport.ru/.

In the Biathlon Union of Russia, great doubts arise in the issue of the supply of foreign rifles for the needs of domestic athletes due to the fact that the sports weapon actually falls under Western sanctions. This was the main reason that Russian biathletes would be re-armed - they would receive rifles produced by the Kalashnikov concern. The concern itself confirms that they are ready to meet the needs of domestic athletes, including taking into account their individual wishes (for example, the manufacture of rifles for left-handers).

The Kalashnikov Concern, which is a component of Rostec, produces Biathlon-7-4 (Bi-7-4) and Biathlon-7-5 rifles (Bi-7-5). The latest version of the rifle is used for training beginner athletes. This is reported by the company's website. Rostekh.

Interest in the products of the Kalashnikov concern is shown not only by the Russian Biathlon Union, but also by foreign sports teams. In particular, beginning Norwegian shooting skiers, as biathletes are often called, use exactly the rifles from the “Kalashnikov” model “Biathlon-7-3”.

Meanwhile, around the brand "Kalashnikov", the creation of its new official website and 3D-presentation scandal erupted. The tender for “branding”, the cost of which is estimated at 20 million rubles, won the Apostol Center for Strategic Communications, one of the key figures in which is the famous TV presenter Tina Kandelaki. "Apostle" for its services offered "Kalashnikov" 15 million. Competitors of the Apostle (in particular, the company DEFA) announced that the company Ms. Kandelaki participated in the tender on special conditions, and complained to the FAS.

Comments

[Giant thought]

You can shoot accurately from not only our weapons, ours can only be cheaper.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

preparations are underway for the transition of Russian biathletes from the use of foreign-made weapons to weapons manufactured in Russia.

We do not know how to advertise our weapons in "peacetime" .. that's all ..! There is a professor here, what kind of photos exposes the quality of the entourage .. (well, lovely sight and beauty ..) but in real life compared to our kind of unprepossessing ha ... oh! Enough to use Western brands already ... We have Kulibins no worse

[Interface]

Mikhail Timofeevich would be happy

[igor_m_p]

Quote: Interface

Mikhail Timofeevich would be happy

Nevertheless, the Bi-7 is a rather old rifle, this time. For the production of "Biathlon" German barrels are used, these are two.
It's time to give out something of your own, only engage in such rifles, in my opinion, should enterprises specializing primarily in high-precision weapons of the match class. The same ORSIS, for example. These can and trunks do the rest.

[Committee]

Quote: MIKHAN

We have Kulibiny no worse

Lobaev for example. It makes good rifles, you can shoot at 3 km. So maybe for biathletes he will be fussed, enough for him to poke around in foreign countries!

[igor_m_p]

Quote: Committee

Lobaev for example. It makes good rifles, you can shoot at 3 km.

That's right, only the Lobaevskaya company in Russia has been around for two years now, if not more, as she died, unfortunately ...

[rereture]

Since the beginning of the year, Lobaev has opened a new firm "KBIS". This rifle is from the new developments "TSVL-8 (TSVL-8)"


http://kbis.su/

[igor_m_p]

Haven't heard yet, thanks for the info. Pleases. Interestingly, a civilian option will be? SVL was called OVL; it was no different from the stigma.

[rereture]

Yes, it seems to be there. There is everything on the site

[lelikas]

Quote: MIKHAN

We do not know how to advertise our weapons in "peacetime" .. that's all ..!

Well, for some reason - here is the last presentation of Terminator 2 - a peep is simple.
As for the new rifles, the main thing is that they would not suffer the fate of the MC 3-1 Record pistol, which was banned for use in competitions.

[yushch]

Our weapons are the simplest and most reliable, and this is appreciated all over the world. Ergonomics only suffer, convenience is weak, and it is often in the first place for professional professionals. But I think it can be easily fixed when we need to work very well.

[igor_m_p]

Quote: yushch

That's only ergonomics suffer, convenience is rather weak, and it is often in the first place for professional professionals.

Believe me, our sporting rifles are very good in ergonomics. And I had a chance to shoot from many sporting rifles, and from "Urals", and from MC-sheks, and from imported, and from various "Biathlons" as well, so there were opportunities to evaluate the ergonomics. And for a professional specialist, as well as for a high-class athlete, the rifle is ALWAYS adjusted individually, so that the issue of ergonomics does not arise. For example, I adjusted my rifle for myself for three months.
For target rifles, the main thing is the quality of the barrel, but there are still certain problems with this in Russia, unfortunately. The only good news is that manufacturers have begun to appear who successfully solve these problems, but they have another problem - production volumes are still small.

[Massik]

You can shoot accurately from not only our weapons, ours can only be cheaper.

That's really a really suitable pseudonym for you ...) How we poor from Mosinka have been shooting for 80 years (50 from SVD) and we smear everything "Where, where, but not at the target")))

[not main]

Quote: Marssik

How are we poor from Mosinki already shoot 80 years

Not 80, but 118, and during this time it has not become worse! Did he even see a rifle, a cartridge? Judging by komentom return on a shoulder, too, never felt! So better keep quiet!

[Massik]

Well, I’ll be measured and unsubscribe with a pipiska, that I have not seen anything and shot from something. I’ll just remind you that the sniper version of the mosquito, which differed in the special quality of the barrel, began to be produced in 1930-1931.

[jjj]

In the late seventies of the last century, a comrade told how he shot from a rare "Smith and Wesson". In short, he shot, and the revolver jumped out of his hands. There you really need to hold it with both hands.
And take our PCA. As heavy as the club of a people's war. And Degtyarev. You run around with such a heavy load for half a day - there is no strength at all. Rare weapons require real strength and skill

[Massik]

In short, he fired, and the revolver jumped out of his hands.

And what did he want from .44 and above)))

Quote: jjj

And take our PCA. As heavy as the club of a people's war. And Degtyarev.

Well, I think after stable marches with a PC, 5 hundred rounds of ammunition and 25 kg of armor, I can somehow control the PPSh or RP.

[igor_m_p]

Quote: Marssik

How are we poor from Mosinki already shoot 80 years

Uh-uh ... Sorry, of course, but only from "Mosinka" we have been shooting for more than a hundred years, since 1891, which in other matters is only a plus

[lelikas]

Quote: Thought Giant

ours can only be cheaper.

Rumors about the cheapness of our weapons are greatly exaggerated!

[rugor]

It's a shame even somehow that our athletes do not use our weapons. I am proud both for the results of the Olympics and for our small arms. I didn't even think that we were shooting from a "trophy".

[Blondy]

It should be a shame to be that ours made such a weapon, a hundred athletes do not want to use it.

[rereture]

But our ergonomics are suffering, the quality of workmanship, the service in the end we have complete garbage, no advertising, plus the difficulty of acquiring sports weapons for civilians, thanks to which sane service and maintenance are developing. Sky-high prices of civilian weapons. You read the owners of weapons of our production on the Hanseatic League, each brought it up, corrected small jambs, and improved ergonomics. It would be better if the arms legislation was weakened (for example, obtaining a license for rifled and permission to the COP), and released to the market at reasonable prices, you look, you would learn how to make a finished high-quality product.

[Morgan]

"Anschutz" were considered the best biathletes. If instead of them there will be "Kalash", it will definitely turn the world upside down! Good luck to Kalashnikov!

[rkkasa xnumx]

Quote: Morgan

"Anschutz" were considered the best biathletes. If instead of them there will be "Kalash", it will definitely turn the world upside down! Good luck to Kalashnikov!

For a long time, rifles of the Biathlon series confidently competed with the Anschutz-Fortner model, but the dashing 90s did not have the best effect on the position of Russian weapons in the world biathlon. Samples of sports weapons of the Biathlon family are now mainly used by biathletes from the countries of the former USSR and novice athletes, mainly because of the price: our rifles are about half the price of German ones.

In 2010, in Vancouver, the following awards were won with our rifles:

Anna Bogaliy-Titovets - relay gold
Other participants in the Olympic Games:
Katie Wilhelm (Germany) - bronze in the relay;
Elena Khrustaleva (Kazakhstan) - silver in the individual race.

Here are also interesting articles:

expert.ru/2014/02/10/nasha-semerka_-izhevskaya-vintovka-dlya-biatlona-bi-7-4/

rostec.ru/news/4270

[igor_m_p]

Quote: Morgan

"Anschutz" were considered the best biathletes. If instead of them there will be "Kalash", it will definitely turn the world upside down!

The saddest thing is that Anshutsevo barrels are now being bought for the Biathlon-7 rifles ...

[marder4]

our weapons are also an option, probably cheaper will be imported ... plus the development of another market for our industry

[Palladium900]

Correctly. You need to try to have everything your own.

[fly fishing]

Quote: Giant thought

You can shoot accurately from not only our weapons, ours can only be cheaper.

Ours may be better! Himself shot from BI and SM in his youth. Heavy were, but liked!

[Slavich]

They were able to make one of the best sniper rifles (ORSIS T-5000).
So why not make a biathlon rifle with outstanding features.
It is necessary to set ambitious tasks, then there will be a grandiose result.

[buser]

mixed in one article and rifles and brands and kandelaki ... Give full info on rifles, performance characteristics, prices, advantages, disadvantages. Fuck us Kandelaki?

[Orenburg]

The most important thing in this news, in my opinion, is that work on special types of small arms does not stop. Biathlon is great, but from here it comes from cosnstructor and technological developments for special sniper, for example. And most importantly, personnel are in this very necessary industry.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: marder4

our weapons are also an option, probably cheaper will be imported ... plus the development of another market for our industry

I am sure that our rifles will be better. but usually in sports they apply what the judges cannot find fault with ...

[Arh]

How healthy it is for these biathletes to win !!!

[Orc-xnumx]

VICTORIES - here is the best advertisement!

[Palych9999]

And here it smells of "Serdyukhapkin" ...

[homosum20]

I have a saiga (with permission). I have an SVD (Tiger-1 with a resolution and an 8x scope). I don't have a Kalash. Due to lack of permission. Very, at times, I want.

[Massik]

On bezrybe .... But because of the pins in the trunks and the bored rifling, I still do not envy you)))

[Committee]

What kind of pins? Where? In Saig or in the Tiger?

[Massik]

I mentioned the pins as referring to alterations of SKS and SVT, which are sold under the designation KO, as an example of the most obvious domestic "improvements" for -20% of military weapons.

[Obliterator]

I can’t understand the logic of those who spoil such weapons. He asked in the boutiques about a rifle with a telescopic sight - sellers advised to quit this business, saying that they certainly wouldn’t beat like a real war, because they had kidnapped over the barrel. So what for do this? In the conditions of overflowing counters with foreign weapons, it is only at a loss to work for yourself.

[andrey903]

the trunks will still be Austrian, ours cannot yet. Ortiz, by the way, is American

[Slavich]

Ortiz, by the way, is American

The other day there was a whole film about ORSIS on RENTv in "military secret". There they showed how they themselves pull the trunks on their equipment. The only American in the film was Steven Seagal.

[Fiero]

Is this all worth a look!

[rkkasa xnumx]

Quote: Fiero

Is this all worth a look!

I agree, the film is interesting. It is only strange that in the beginning they mentioned SVD (they say it does not meet modern requirements), and then they talk about ORSIS T-5000. But ORSIS is not a replacement for SVD.
ORSIS hits further and more accurately (if conditions allow - smoke, dust, buildings, trees, etc.). But the SVD has a higher rate of fire, and most likely at relatively small distances (400-500 m), it will be preferable.

[lelikas]

Quote: andrey903

the trunks will still be Austrian, ours cannot yet. Ortiz, by the way, is American

And then what are they doing at Promtechnologii?

[Fiero]

Why did the states buy ORSIS for the army?

[alex-cn]

Amovskaya there is only a high-quality forging for the trunk, they cut themselves. forging is not worse than ours can do, but they require a very large batch of blanks. With mass production, it would be okay, but industrial technologists are specialists.

[Aleks tv]

Infa rifles are few.
Will it be Bi-7-4 or Bi-7-5? Or some new model?
At what level will our new rifles be compared to the western ones we are currently using?

What are TTX and TTD?
How are you doing with weight?

I understand that this is an information note ... that would be one of the biathletes ARTICLE wrote about the domestic biathlon rifles, it would be interesting ...

[starhina01]

I agree with you. in both cases

[Nicholas]

He served an urgent 1969-1971, we had the foreman of the battery Kokut Nikolai Fedosovich (!). He shot from ANY AKM ... I have no words. He always said that a bullet was flying straight.

[silverwolf88]

Actually, it’s high time to switch to domestic rifles ... Individual weapons in our country have always been doing fine ... The problem was purely psychological ... not perceiving our products as high-quality ...
In the subject, we recall the failure of weapons tailored by them at our biathletes at world competitions ...

[polite people]

And our battalion commander with AK 74 shot like a pistol with one hand.
There was no better shooter in the army.

[edeligor]

I will be brief. AT LAST, !!!!

[kodxnumx]

It is strange that so far our biotlon is working on German vents, convinced if our designers really want to, they will surpass all Western onalogs! Let's take a look.

[Vyacheslav0206]

Well, alas, alas, probably not. They will be able to release an analogue, but everything is very difficult in such weapons. It’s like with our rocket engines. It’s like Americans and nose pulled up, and when we recovered we must retreat or abandon space. And here, not only do our rifles the past years for internal use were mostly lost and the work was lost. Recover to the Olympics Sochi promised to make a rifle alas, it did not pass the test among biathletes. So you probably have to do everything but don’t make noise with drafts that we are great and should only use yours.
I would like, but alas, so apparently the world is arranged somewhere one is better somewhere else.

[starhina01]

people honestly, I personally only now understood where rifle biathletes came from, don’t be very angry with me, but in fact I’ll answer, this is minus the domestic defense industry if its products are replaced with imported ones, Russian biathletes

[Yun Klob]

As I understand it, the Tulaks could not cope. Shame on Tula gunsmiths!

[Anchonsha]

Well, nothing, from the age of five, and Russia will become more self-sufficient. Moreover, it is impossible in this world to produce everything for us in our country, something that will be cheaper to buy than to produce. But as for the security of the country, the space industry, Russia itself must produce all this.

[Free Island]

maybe you need to switch to weapons of the Kalashnikov concern and ORSIS? :))) all the same, they make exact rifles ...

[Sinbad]

The problem is not with the Kulibins, but with the managers (officials). I walked along Tula in the late 70s, a bike (and maybe a true story); they made a gift gun, for some kind of ruler, either western or eastern, it doesn't matter. Fabric, gilding, carving and chasing with engraving, I saw in my youth - beauty. But that's not the point. Made the trunks - a hunting vertical, began to shoot at the stand - a miracle! They were scared that they could not repeat, they bent. This is how the Tula Lefty "bent".

[Vadim12]

Thanks to the sanctions, otherwise it was already in the order of things to speak with foreign propellers. Or were our rifles worse than foreign ones, or was there a team to support a foreign manufacturer?

[Cosmos1987]

Well, let's switch to rifles, if only we could switch to our uniform and let it be at least "Bolshevichka", but its own brand. Advertising is advertising, but it has its own.

[San_aa]

Correct solution. Biathletes are required to clearly state what they want to receive from the Kalashnikov concern. And the designers will try.

[jovanni]

Yes, we will do it ourselves. We will do everything. Although at first it is necessary to raise the prestige of our technologists and designers so that they generally appear in our country. You look, and the necessary equipment will appear. Timurovsegaydarovtsy Yeltsin did much harm, bastards ...

[Barakuda]

I shot with Orsis a week ago. The question is - how did he end up near Kiev? and where then "will go". I was not told .. they looked like that .. types - are you that idiot?

[fktrcfylhn61]

But the most important thing in this situation is that with all this: Babai asked Putin for a weapon! But to enemies it is served without demand! Is it time to call THEM by their proper names !!!

[fktrcfylhn61]

How is it possible to produce something good for the country when these parasites have sucked up the whole atmosphere of creativity shitting on the vine !!! Well, straightforward hands fall when ideas are evaluated from a position of market liquidity! One wants to shout - I will bury my brains myself!