A convoy of cars with the Ukrainian military is moving to Donetsk

The press service of the Donetsk People's Republic reports that a convoy of almost three dozen cars with the Ukrainian military is moving to Donetsk through the Starobeshevsky District. Building a military group in the DPR, Kiev began a couple of days ago, despite the adoption of the draft of the so-called “Memorandum of Peace and Accord,” which orders Ukrainian troops and the National Guard to leave the south-eastern regions and return to the places of permanent deployment.

News agency ITAR-TASS quotes a representative of the press service of the DPR:

A convoy of 28 vehicles with Ukrainian military and escort vehicles passed by the village of Solntsevo of the Starobeshevsky District towards Donetsk.

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Recall that the appointed by the Rada of the Acting Ukrainian President Turchinov announced the final stage of the operation in the southeast on the eve and promised that by the election day 25 May the region would be “completely clean of terrorists”.

Speaking on one of the Ukrainian channels, presidential candidate Dmitry Yarosh, said that the “full sweep” of the southeast from “terrorists” (this is what militias of Donbass and civilians who support them are called in Kyiv) is possible, but if such a task is accomplished, the Ukrainian security forces will suffer heavy losses, as will the civilian population of the southeast.

The phrases “before the beginning of the elections” and “by May 25”, voiced by Ukrainian politicians, say that the date of the presidential election is “sacred” for Kiev. And what about after the election? At least the flood?

Comments

[Alexander Romanov]

I read the news and don’t know what to write. Our military is withdrawn and there is no help to Lugansk and Donetsk. I don’t want to stamp slogans.

[Rus2012]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Our military is withdrawn and there is no help to Lugansk and Donetsk.

In the event of a massive offensive and the use of heavy artillery systems for strikes "over the areas" - the Air Force and RV of the Ground Forces will launch a counter attack ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Rus2012

- The Air Force and RV Ground Forces will launch a fire attack ...

How do you know this?

[Rus2012]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

How do you know this?

such things come from unverified sources ...

[Rus2012]

Quote: Rus2012

Quote: Alexander Romanov

How do you know this?

such things come from unverified sources ...

here officially -

22.05.2014
The head of the Lugansk People’s Republic, Valery Bolotov, appealed to President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Sergey Naryshkin, Chairman of the Council of the Federation of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation Valentina Matvienko with an appeal to send peacekeeping troops to the republic, news agencies reported citing Valery Bolotov’s appeal.
"Today at 4.00:XNUMX am Ukrainian troops committed an act of aggression against civilians, illegitimate Kiev authorities are carrying out a punitive operation against the Luhansk Republic. Its troops continue to occupy certain regions of the republic, threatening the life of citizens," Valery Bolotov said.
He also said that the LPR did not have enough strength to drive out the punishers. The republic's leadership hopes that Russia will make a decision on the water supply for the peacekeeping troops before a "humanitarian catastrophe artificially created by the Ukrainian leadership" begins in the region.
Also, the head of the LNR reported about six thousand Ukrainian soldiers who are already concentrated around Lugansk.
"According to our data, there are more than six thousand of them (Ukrainian military - ed.), And this number has increased in recent days," he said.
According to him, the Ukrainian military is pulling in Lugansk not only manpower, but also heavy weapons, as well as special units for forcing rivers.

[GDP]

I wonder what is the real size of the militia?
if, as Strelkov said, from all the cities of hundreds of 7-8 + there are + 7 pieces of military equipment, there are almost no chances to resist.

So many factories, such an industry, millions of supporters (according to our media, of course)!
Something from improvised materials would have been built a long time ago:
In ordinary car workshops, they manage to do this, and there are dozens of industrial giants!

pickup truck with a nursa and a machine gun Syria

Kraz lined with armored plates - Cuba

homemade mortar syria

Homemade hand grenade launcher with a butt, for grenades GP-25

[mamont5]

Quote: GDP

So many factories, such an industry, millions of supporters (according to our media, of course)!
Something from improvised materials would have been built a long time ago:

Strelkov says there are enough weapons now. There are no people. And he, apparently, does not want to put under fire the guns.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Rus2012

such things come from unverified sources ...

I’m going to drop it on Internet, that our planes were picked up and I will refer to an unknown source. What will people do when they don’t know anything?

[tilovaykrisa]

For a counter strike, the Air Force will have to suppress air defense, which is practically impossible without active aerial reconnaissance, since Ukrainian aircraft do not yell like stung about violating their air borders, and the conclusion is that such actions are not being carried out by the Russian Federation, and there is no accumulation of radioactive weapons for proactive strike within the reach of these systems, unless of course you did not mean tactical missile weapons but it was created for several other tasks.

Most likely, the intervention of the RF Armed Forces will become possible only when the count of victims by the civilian population exceeds the critical mass and it is no longer possible to hide such facts from GeyRopa and other ghouls, and again, there will first be a probe of political soil and only then military intervention.

As an example, 08.08.08, until the city began to level Tskhinval and the peacekeepers were not actually destroyed, there was no interference.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: tilovaykrisa

As an example 08.08.08

Something I have an obsession with what will happen in 1999.

[kenig1]

Air defense systems have the habit of changing positions. When a decision is made to inflict fire, then intelligence will be needed. In Yugoslavia, 3 or more hours passed from receiving intelligence information to setting aviation tasks, the Serbs knew this and changed the areas of concentration of units every 3 hours. Do not forget that militias and the local population can also provide information.

[tilovaykrisa]

Do not compare the capabilities of Yugoslav air defense, which consisted mainly of anti-aircraft artillery systems and, frankly, not new c75 and capabilities (albeit limited due to the general combat readiness)
Also, NATO aviation did not set goals to destroy the air defense of Yugoslavia, it was more likely as a consequence, the task was to destroy the industrial potential of Yugoslavia, which was completed in full.

[Rus2012]

Quote: tilovaykrisa

violation of its air borders suggests that such actions by the Russian Federation are not carried out, and there is also no accumulation of explosives for a preemptive strike within the reach of these systems, unless of course you had in mind tactical missile weapons but it was created for several other tasks.
Most likely, the intervention of the RF Armed Forces will become possible only when the count of victims by the civilian population exceeds the critical mass and it will no longer be possible to hide such facts

"The intervention of the RF Armed Forces will become possible only when the number of casualties on the part of the civilian population" - what do you think will happen when the Grad hits the NP?
As for the RV SU - ask where the parts of the 630 ORDN, 1 RBR and 26 RBR are located ...
As for the "suppression and conquest of domination", what do you think, in what sequence will they strike - Tochka-U, Iskander, or KR with an aircraft?

[tilovaykrisa]

Beautifully stated, it’s a pity that it’s not real.

[aleks700]

Who said?

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Rus2012

The Air Force and RV Ground Forces will launch a counter-offensive ...

Oh, and I doubt (and not only me), this means a war with Ukraine, it is unlikely that the Supreme Commander will agree to this, and the "non-direct" assistance of the DPR is not obvious .... we merged the southeast campaign

[Sid.74]

Quote: Thunderbolt

it means a war with Ukraine

It’s already gone! You’ll have to fight with NATO, not directly but with Romania and others ... Hungarians and Poles! Russia are being forced to do so, but I suppose now the howl will rise why Putin doesn’t send troops? Where are the peacekeepers !!! , goofy things! We are waiting for the evening ... much will be either clarified by Peskov or Shoigu, or maybe not! According to the news, there is something dull with the information!

[gispanec]

Quote: Thunderbolt

we merged the campaign southeast

they pour it when they betray ...... but do we betray someone? ... did the southeast stand up as one ?? ... did the angry miners take to the streets? ... do the militias stand in line for mobilization? .... did the unification of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions under a single command take place? .... is it that the owners of the militia are still in the millionaire Donetsk and Lugansk ?? ... aren’t they still stealing activists under their noses ?? ... how it’s not regrettable, but the PEOPLE of the southeast did not stand up, that’s why we sent troops ... that’s why we just say .... that’s why we can’t get help across the border (even the militias don’t want to open the border, they can’t) ... now it seems there is infa that opened ... but so far we have not confirmed this infa .... sad ... hurt ... and scared from indifference ...

[vedross]

I, too, began to think so. But now there is confidence that Russia will help not with troops, but with a humanitarian corridor on the border of the DPR and LPR. Volunteers and cargoes will go along this corridor ... Homoseks ukrov are not so hot any warriors even against a handful of brave southeast.

[Rus2012]

Quote: vedross

humanitarian corridor

What do you think, does the "humanitarian corridor" only imply a corridor without an unmanned and neutral demilitarized zone?

[Rus2012]

Quote: Thunderbolt

we merged the campaign southeast

... if the SEU was merged - then the next turn is ours, they will come to us.
Can we allow this?

Fire support to the southeast - in the general plan was and is, as an integral part of the entire operation. Another thing is WHEN and HOW these parts will be realized ...

[1st_user]

In the event of a massive offensive and the use of heavy artillery systems for strikes "over the areas" - the Air Force and RV of the Ground Forces will launch a counter attack ...

Is this, like, a joke? Already how many times have they said that Russia will not enter troops in the DPR anyway. It's a pity of course. But the militias themselves have no Air Force and RV (which is also a pity).

[SS68SS]

It is necessary to soberly assess the situation, without phobias and cliches ...

[MOISEY]

Another provocation of aggression, when you ukrosolochki calm down.

[sgazeev]

According to Lukashenka, from a legal point of view, the referendums held in 2014 in Ukraine did not take place, and the Ukrainian supporters of federalization are "drugged" and do not understand what is happening. Lukashenko believes that he "is better than anyone in Russia" understands Ukrainian realities and is confident that until a new national leader (president) appears in Ukraine, the conflict in this post-Soviet republic will continue. Here he is, Father in all its glory. The brakes failed and the brains swam.

[Salamander]

Slavyansk, May 2014.

[vlum]

Did you succumb to hypnotic hypnosis, or how did she fool him there? Pheromones, probably.

[Sid.74]

Quote: SS68SS

It is necessary to soberly assess the situation, without phobias and cliches ...

This is impossible to do with so much information! We heard today about the explosion of a house on Kutuzovsky!

Among the victims - a US citizen, also in the house was the office of the British Al-Jazeera

Among the victims of the explosion on Kutuzovsky Prospekt there may be foreigners. According to the data of the Ministry of Emergencies in Moscow, cited by Interfax, one of the victims is a US citizen and works at the embassy. As MK found out, the 14 house was built by order of the Main Directorate for Maintenance of the Diplomatic Corps of the Russian Foreign Ministry. By the way, the office of the representative office of the British television company Al Jazeera International Limited is located in this house.

Are there any phobias?

[tchack]

And what do you need to introduce troops ??? To start a full-scale war ??? To die hundreds of thousands of people ??? The USA is just that. From the very beginning, they have been trying to drag Russia into the war in order to weaken it. To introduce troops means to follow the lead of the United States.

How do you know that Lugansk and Donetsk do not help ??? They should openly write about this ???

PS: I really don’t like it when those who have never held a machine gun in real combat argue that troops should be brought in. Like, I'll sit and write at the computer, and let others fight ... Poher, that someone will be killed and mothers will lose their children ...

PSS: In general, Putin is doing everything right. No matter what. It operates on a national scale.

[krpmlws]

Quote: tchack

How do you know that Lugansk and Donetsk do not help ???

One must be blind in order not to see the obvious: there is no help from the Russian Federation to the SE.

Quote: tchack

And what do you need to introduce troops ???

It is necessary to provide assistance to SE even through unofficial channels. When military equipment and money to support a people's army suddenly appear in sufficient quantities in the army of the SE, there will be no questions.

Quote: tchack

In general, Putin is doing everything right. No matter what

What does not help SE, albeit through unofficial channels?

[AK-74-1]

Well, come on "KNOWING"! OPU in a handful, a machine gun around the neck and forward to protect the fat eaters.

You are a provocateur.

[tchack]

Quote: krpmlws

One must be blind in order not to see the obvious: there is no help from the Russian Federation to the SE.

Watching what kind of help you're talking about. If about airplanes and tanks - then yes, the RF does not provide such assistance ....

[Old Cynic]

It is necessary to provide assistance to SE even through informal channels.

Help with wise advice - WHAT exactly?

[O_RUS]

Quote: tchack

And what do you need to introduce troops ??? To start a full-scale war ??? To die hundreds of thousands of people ??? The USA is just that. From the very beginning, they have been trying to drag Russia into the war in order to weaken it. To introduce troops means to follow the lead of the United States.

...
+ I agree with you!

None of those who want to bring the Russian Armed Forces to Ukraine have written on the basis of what rights of norms and laws Russia will do.

I do not want the Russian guys to die for the nation that revived fascism.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: O_RUS

None of those who want to bring the Russian Armed Forces to Ukraine have written on the basis of what rights of norms and laws Russia will do.

And on the same that went to the Crimea. On the same that went to South Ossetia. There would be a desire.
It seems that international law exists, only for Russia.

[gispanec]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

It seems that international law exists, only for Russia.

here I agree with you by 1000% ... and I’ll add ... we are to blame for everything (on mattresses and geyrops) and so that our people would understand what our fault is, we must save Europe from fascism once again without coordination with the UN Security Council! ! ...

[O_RUS]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

And on the same that went to the Crimea. On the same that went to the ....

- Well ... shall we confess? So which ones?

Quote: Alexander Romanov

It would be a desire.

"Illusions ... How many sweets are in them ..."
Everything has its time

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: tchack

How do you know that Lugansk and Donetsk do not help ??? They should openly write about this ???

People write to me from there.

Quote: tchack

PS: I really don’t like it when those who have never kept a machine gun in real combat reason that troops should be introduced

Here one commando was on the site, Asgard was a nickname. He was also a veteran of the Kulikovo battle, wrote a lot here about the battles near Berlin.

Quote: tchack

PSS: In general, Putin is doing everything right. No matter what. It operates on a national scale.

On a national scale, we ship weapons to Syria, and here are our Russians. I take into account that Assad is the legitimate president and there are contracts there. But for the USA he is a tyrant and our terrorists in Lugansk for the USA.

[DerSamowar]

Well, you see, what a parsley. From my couch point of view, it’s strategically stupid to introduce peacekeepers. I will explain why:
1. The introduction of troops of any purpose from the Russian Federation, even peacekeepers, is a 100% declaration of open war. This is how our "Western partners" will present it to us.
2. That now a dozen people per day die, that when troops are brought in they will die, but if the Russian Federation introduces troops, then they will not be limited to two areas.
3. For every action there is a reaction. All these la-la-la de-escalation of the conflict may one day simply be forgotten and in reality our soldiers will have to die at the hands of Western soldiers.
4. You can be 99% sure that the Kremlin is just not sitting right now. Nevertheless, the MTR and the GRU do not just eat their bread for us and they know their business. Will wait.

[gispanec]

Quote: DerSamowar

The introduction of troops of any purpose from the Russian Federation, even peacekeepers, is a 100% declaration of open war. This is how our "Western partners" will present it to us.

honestly? .. yes on !! better war again than a whole ass to substitute for geyropa and SAShe ... and there’s a quick look at who and what .... in fact in the southeast ... 1000 fighters are holding 12000 Natsiks and conscripts for eggs ... and as for nuclear weapons ... until the Americans begin to naughty we will not answer .... it is time to change, like our great-grandfathers, the conditions for business games in Arab-African Europe and make Sasha respect our country ... even through a military conflict .... otherwise you can learn the Anglo-Saxon language and go north to drill their holes !!!

[Lord of the Sith]

Here is another video about the fight near Vodnovakha, Donetsk region

[Lord of the Sith]

Ukrainian brigade commander: The attackers were paid.
"10 killed for sure, 29 wounded, of which 4 are very seriously"
According to one of the commanders of the 51st brigade of the Ukrainian armed forces, the armed men arrived on May 22 in several vehicles and opened fire without warning.
“They were trained mercenaries, they beat them professionally,” says the commander of the attacked 51st Brigade.
According to the Ukrainian military, the soldiers were taken by surprise, but managed to fight back:
- Ours managed to open fire in response. They burned one car. The attackers fired from grenade launchers and machine guns. They were well prepared for the attack on the checkpoint. One hundred percent were paid by someone. By whom, I do not know.
According to local residents who witnessed the attack, unknown persons who arrived in Privatbank cash-in-transit vehicles and two jeeps opened fire on the Ukrainian military, who had previously refused to shoot at civilians.
- Residents of the Holy One defended their homes. Ukrainian soldiers were ordered to crush the resistance. They refused to shoot people, and in the end they were punished, ”says a source at the headquarters of the self-defense command.
According to the interlocutor, this was a punitive operation ordered by the oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, the owner of Privatbank, known for financing the Maidan protests and paying remuneration to the Right Sector fighters.

[AK-74-1]

Very similar to Kolomoisky.

[Roshchin]

What kind of commander of the 51st brigade, a servant of the tsar’s father is a soldier who complains that the right-wingers shot his soldiers? What awaits next? Is he going to continue to command the subordinates that have not yet been killed, and with all his might hope that he will not be touched?

[vlum]

And such thoughts arise in any personnel officer of the AFU, if only he receives all this information.

Hence, the primary task is to inform.

[Lunic]

We (USA) have just been told on NPR news that it was pro-Russian separatists who attacked the military and claimed responsibility for the attack. NPR referred to the Associated Press.
Half an hour later, however, after the repetition of this news, NPR devoted 5 minutes to the story of how the oligarchs are helping the new Ukrainian government by creating private armies. They broadcast a report from Dnepropetrovs where "the local population is very pleased with Kolomiyskiy". They call him "A real patriot of Ukraine". The reportage included excerpts from interviews between Sheremet and Filatov.
NPR is considered a liberal public news channel that prides itself on delivering balanced, unbiased news.

[armageddon]

How long can I let you down? Calm down already !!! And the EXPLORATION-does not sleep! SURE !!!

[Sandov]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I read the news and don’t know what to write. Our military is withdrawn and there is no help to Lugansk and Donetsk. I don’t want to stamp slogans.

The People’s Army of New Russia needs to undermine bridges and railways. Stop these corpse eaters on the way. Remember the Second World War.

[smart75]

It’s necessary to mine!
Is there really not a single special group — nine people need everything.
Plus gear.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

It's begun ... Stay Southeast! The junta started "fun" elections ..

[lexx2038]

Turchinov, the day before, announced the final stage of the operation in the southeast and promised that by May 25, the region would be "completely cleared of terrorists."

Will they shoot nuclear weapons?

[ksv500]

The junta will strive to "clean up" the Donbass as much as possible before the elections, and there they are smooth bribes. The most difficult and decisive days for Donbass are on the way!

[SS68SS]

quote = ksv500] In the course of the most difficult and decisive days for the Donbass! [/ quote]


Donbass, hold on .... The Nazis will not pass.

[SS68SS]

quote = ksv500] In the course of the most difficult and decisive days for the Donbass! [/ quote]


Donbass, hold on .... The Nazis will not pass.

[savantol]

Recall that the acting President of Ukraine Turchynov, appointed by the Rada, announced on the eve of the final stage of the operation in the southeast and promised that by May 25 election day the region would be "completely cleared of terrorists."

The sweeper did not grow ....

[GRune]

They can stupidly fill up with corpses, there the balance of forces 30 to 1 ...

[O_RUS]

Quote: GRune

They can stupidly fill up with corpses, there the balance of forces 30 to 1 ...

"Ukraine has as many as five centers dealing with human organ transplantation: in Kiev, Donetsk, Odessa, in Lvov and in Zaporozhye "http://topwar.ru/48418-fabrika-smerti-24-sotnya-maydana-naladila-torgovlyu-chelo
vecheskimi-organami.html

[mamont5]

Quote: GRune

They can stupidly fill up with corpses, there the balance of forces 30 to 1 ...

And you think that the military or even the pravoseki stupidly stomp forward despite the losses? For this, an army with iron discipline and a detachment behind the back is needed.

[APS]

They signed a memorandum, but ... You can’t believe them in any way!

[valday]

So the junta has been building up its grouping in the Donbas for 2 months. In my opinion, the Ukrainian army is demoralized and does not want to fight at all. And the National Guard, too, are still fighters - it's not like throwing Molotov cocktails into an unarmed Berkut.
I think the probability of a serious operation against the militias is no more than usual. Although the preparation does not bother them.

[petrT]

Now it will be very difficult! I want to utter all sorts of lofty words, but that’s not it. Just hold on. And I'm sorry that I can not help with anything other than words.

[Arh]

When will the Russian Military enter Donetsk!?!

[Dangerous]

And what did the Russians forget there? Despite the fact that the inhabitants of Donbass themselves are not very eager to become part of Russia. It is high time for us to understand that there is no and will not be any more USSR, that Russia and Ukraine are different countries, albeit with close relations until recently. But this is their country and they must decide their future, and not rely on the help of Russia. They were given weapons, why then slow down ??

[Old Cynic]

When will the Russian Military enter Donetsk!?!

Never. Let my countrymen decide their own question. Independently. only then can you talk about something with them.

Despite the fact that the inhabitants of Donbass themselves are not very eager to become part of Russia.

Here you are wrong. In Donetsk, the vast majority for joining Russia. But, here’s the paradox: they all want Putin to come and solve all the problems.
This is what I say to Mom: "Mother, Putin will not come and solve your problems !!! Solve them yourself!"

She answers me: "Sonny, Everything that happens is similar to how you played war with Edik and Vovka in childhood ... Pulled into the bushes ... Pulled into the bushes ..."

This conversation, however, is one and a half weeks.

[Echelon]

That would be a cackle from the NURS ...

[Altona]

Quote: Echelon

That would be a cough from the NURS.

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The same thought ... Two or three attack aircraft would have been enough ... But you just have to neutralize the Kiev air defense, but how it will turn out in Georgia ...

[Echelon]

The famous SU-24 will be enough, which Donald blinded.

[Anton Gavrilov]

I have already lost count, yet again this "operation" is entering the final stage?

[Cormorants]

I heard a corridor appeared with the Russian border! Still, it will be easier now, volunteers from Russia will appear!

[Dangerous]

Why are volunteers from Russia ?? In Donetsk itself, 955 people live. In total, the population of Donbas is 000 million people. If desired, they could at least 4,3 thousand bayonets and gain. But apparently they are happy with everything, since they do not itch

[341712]

But what is it that ?? !!! It looks like "spare parts" of human beings in Gom.sakiya will soon be in abundance. Terrible...

[Giant thought]

As they say: It's a shame for the state. No visible help to the Russian brothers in Ukraine. And he’s getting nasty on the soul.

[Dangerous]

Firstly, Eastern Ukrainians are Eastern Ukrainians, not Russians at all. Secondly, they are not some kind of disabled people to help them. They were given weapons, but they don’t want to fight, then why should we go there? Thirdly, assistance was nevertheless rendered to them in the form of Strelkov and his team, who, I’m sure, didn’t get weapons for their earned money, but allocated through special channels by our special services. So what else does the Ukrainians need for the Russian boys to restore order for them there ??

[kit-kat]

There is no such nationality "Ukrainian"!

[Dangerous]

Who is looking at it now? the most commonplace example - there is no American nation either

[Dangerous]

Who is looking at it now? the most commonplace example - there is no American nation either

[Kuvabatake]

The question is not whether or not the nationality is Ukrainian. The question is whether or not they have a desire to fight for their choice. Recently, it seems that only Strelkovites need the DNI and the LC, and the rest are so clean to hang out ...

[Twice RUSSIAN]

Do you have guys in the Donbas?
They voted for independence, and who will defend independence?
If maydanutye gain the upper hand, then they are right, Donbas- "Vatniki".
7 million inhabitants, 40 thousand volunteers and the junta kerdyk.

[Old Cynic]

Oh, dear ... Yes, the fact of the matter is that everyone is sitting out ...
I say to Mom: "Mother! Look, how many inhabitants are there in Slavyansk? And how many are fighting? That's just it!"
She told me: "Son, people are so stressed, they don't understand what to do" ...
I told her: "Mother, what, during the war, people did not have stress? You yourself are a child of war, at least for a moment you doubted who is a friend and who is an enemy? Selami went to the partisans ... And now what" ?

Mother said nothing ...

[zanoza]

An option like "cleansing for the elections" was to be expected.
How will they force the population of these territories to go to the polls, a riddle?
Хthere is no turnout threshold, polling stations will try to expand in full, and there at least one will vote, in the end, the same members of the election commission. The elections "took place" - the West is delighted, the people are burying the dead ,, ..
Here's a play out scenario, ub.lyud * ki!

[mig31]

To multiply this memorandum for the State Department and the EU in the form of rolls of toilet paper, and put the turkey with egg in one place ...

[x.andvlad]

Quote: savantol

Recall that the acting President of Ukraine Turchynov, appointed by the Rada, announced on the eve of the final stage of the operation in the southeast and promised that by May 25 election day the region would be "completely cleared of terrorists."

The sweeper did not grow ....

I also think that for a city with an almost million population, 30 cars with the military are clearly not enough if the defense was prepared properly. Let's look at the result.

[Dangerous]

Yes, there is no defense there, again unarmed everyone will run around armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, we have already seen this ...

[soyuz-nik]

Good health, I wish!

Anyway, the Ukrakhunt monsters will hold the elections anyway, the transcendental monsters will recognize these elections anyway ... All the jambs will hang clearly on whom ...

They are trying to extinguish the fire with gas .... The morons are finished ....

Lads, I understand that from afar and sitting at the computer it is easy to "command" and "teach", but why did they not beat the equipment when it was transported along the railway tracks a month or two ago? Why are proactive actions not being taken?

DNR and LC, hold on!

[chelovektapok]

It is not true that Russia abandoned SE. Russian exercises of troops and Aviadarts for the elections is the only thing (there is no other) that hinders the use of "grads" and other machinery of mass destruction in the cities of the SE. Well, not the conscience of the fascists! Reading the comments of cannibals, they have long been calling for "throwing hail." But the fact of the matter is that the Russian Armed Forces have better things against the old ukrograd. And can be applied in return. Moreover, everything capable of shooting-smoke from ukrov is very compactly located. Although it is possible that the command to defeat will be given by the main khuntai from the plane on the Kiev-Nuyork flight. Although in this case, it is not a fact that they will fly. Somehow very successfully Babay knocks out the turntables with 14 "soldiers of fortune".

[Bobxnumx]

Kiev begins to clean up before the elections, only there is no certainty that they will succeed.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

I really hope that this will all end with this .. (23 years have been harassed by the people) and here is a bloody result.

[VAF]

Quote: MIKHAN

I really hope that this all ends with this ..

For koment and photo. ++++++++++ !!!

[Sagittarius]

Only now, instead of the military police of the Amer army, there should be military personnel of the military police of the Russian Federation

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: MIKHAN

I really hope that this will all end with this .. (23 years have been harassed by the people) and here is a bloody result.

MIKHAN, the Americans are guarding them in the photo, which means they are not guilty. Change the soldier in the photo.

[kodxnumx]

I think if nothing is said about Russia's help to the southeast, it means that they work well, there are all kinds of help, I think that they are now driving people and equipment to Donetsk, this is of course a problem, but I'm only afraid of the results and they hurried, it will be a turn of the militia to reach Kiev!

[navara399]

On the border with the Donetsk region, you need to hang out a banner - "Welcome to HELL!"

[Dangerous]

Remember Grozny 1994? If ... Only unfortunately, such a banner does not win the battle

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote: Dangerous

Remember Grozny 1994? If ... Only unfortunately, such a banner does not win the battle

But from the view from this banner at the Banderlog>! <Oops it will siphon! Let them hang it for the nerves at the fascists.

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

Why Russia does not require these Kiev Fuhrer to withdraw troops from the state border, inspection flights over the territory of the outskirts, and these American pugs allow themselves to talk to Russia in such a tone, it may still be worth clicking on the nose of dreamy NATO members, it feels like these reptiles revel its impunity and permissiveness, the promotion of the American pocket world community represented by the UN.

[Manul49]

Quote: APS

They signed a memorandum, but ... You can’t believe them in any way!

So no one believes them. Golem pi..zh

[fregina1]

If not modestly, I would simply fall out if incomprehensible "little green men" came to Odessa from the side of Transnistria! All the troops are near Donetsk, and then once they got there!

[Yellow white]

Here the cattle, not taking into account the losses climbed, you need to meet more on the approaches to the cities, not peaceful cordons, but land mines ...

[aleks700]

Yes it is the alphabet! Of course it is necessary to mine. Or at least signs carefully hang mines.

[fregina1]

Quote: MIKHAN

I really hope that this will all end with this .. (23 years have been harassed by the people) and here is a bloody result.

I think it will be so, but as it was in history, not all of those sitting in the photo will survive this process!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: fregina1

I think it will be so, but as it was in history, not all of those sitting in the photo will survive this process!

This option is the best for such ghouls ..

[sm00vik]

It turned out very synchronously that our troops were withdrawing from the borders to the elections, and the Ukrainian military was bringing their troops to the rebel areas! If we can’t help officially, I want to believe that at least the militias have their own or external resources ready to offer decent resistance.

[Tanechka-clever]

LUGANSK, May 22 - RIA Novosti. The head of the self-proclaimed Lugansk People’s Republic, Valery Bolotov, calls for the introduction of peacekeeping forces in eastern Ukraine before a humanitarian catastrophe occurs in the region.

The time has come for the Russian peacekeeping forces - our old people and children are there. Today, the EU + USA is opposing the southeast - the Kiev junta, which does not have a mandate from the Ukrainian people, has decided to bring the Russian-speaking people to their knees, if this happens, we will not be able to live on. And never forgive ourselves for this

[Twice RUSSIAN]

I totally agree.

[Sergei 57]

Quote: Cormorants

I heard a corridor appeared with the Russian border! Still, it will be easier now, volunteers from Russia will appear!

There are more than a million of their men, and everyone is looking at Russia.

[skobars]

READY TO HELP, BUT YOURSELF WHY DO NOT STAY AWAY FROM BANDERS 7

[yllo]

AVIODARTS started in the Voronezh region. If necessary, ours can "confuse" training goals a little. And I think the arrival time is not long.

[marder4]

it seems the case is really bad ...

[dosyl]

Quote: tchack

And what do you need to introduce troops ??? To start a full-scale war ??? To die hundreds of thousands of people ??? The USA is just that. From the very beginning, they have been trying to drag Russia into the war in order to weaken it. To introduce troops means to follow the lead of the United States.

How do you know that Lugansk and Donetsk do not help ??? They should openly write about this ???

PS: I really don’t like it when those who have never held a machine gun in real combat argue that troops should be brought in. Like, I'll sit and write at the computer, and let others fight ... Poher, that someone will be killed and mothers will lose their children ...
Right.
PSS: In general, Putin is doing everything right. No matter what. It operates on a national scale.

Correctly, in no case do not send troops, this and s.r.a.s. pravoseki wait, and then: WRONG! save me!

[mackonya]

the current Armed Forces of Ukraine will not be able to carry out a "complete cleanup" in 3 days. I hope until May 25 the number of civilian casualties will not appear, I just don't understand how the "Kiev authorities" are going to hold elections in the conditions of the ATO in the South-East.

[Nicholas]

how so convoys of cars with the military roam freely? or military equipment on railways? why are some not blown up and others not derailed?
I am certainly not there and the situation here from Izhevsk seems to me differently, but what about the ultimatum announced by "Abwehr": "... If by 21:00 on May 15, local time, the Ukrainian invaders do not vacate the checkpoints, they will not remove military equipment and forces from the territory around the cities of Donbass - ALL of them will be burned and destroyed !! ... "
where are the diversions referred to in this ultimatum?

once again make a reservation: I'm not there, but such inconsistencies make me perplexed

[Ural guys]

And it’s not for you alone that these non-connections are in doubt.
I'm interested in something else in these two areas, lives about 6,5 mil. people and that they all are sitting and waiting for us to come, but only some 7-8 thousand people really resist. AU-AU people have enough sleep, otherwise only horns and legs will soon be left from you there!

[Ural guys]

And it’s not for you alone that these non-connections are in doubt.
I'm interested in something else in these two areas, lives about 6,5 mil. people and that they all are sitting and waiting for us to come, but only some 7-8 thousand people really resist. AU-AU people have enough sleep, otherwise only horns and legs will soon be left from you there!

[Zomanus]

Yes, another historic milestone. In the Luhansk region, martial law is introduced. Http://news.mail.ru/politics/18285397/? Frommail = 1
What else had to be done immediately after the referendum. Damn, the weekend will be boring.

[commode77]

Attack on a checkpoint near Volnovakha:
Ukrainian brigade commander: The attackers were paid.
"10 killed for sure, 29 wounded, of which 4 are very seriously"
According to one of the commanders of the 51st brigade of the Ukrainian armed forces, the armed men arrived on May 22 in several vehicles and opened fire without warning.
“They were trained mercenaries, they beat them professionally,” says the commander of the attacked 51st Brigade.
According to the Ukrainian military, the soldiers were taken by surprise, but managed to fight back:
- Ours managed to open fire in response. They burned one car. The attackers fired from grenade launchers and machine guns. They were well prepared for the attack on the checkpoint. One hundred percent were paid by someone. By whom, I do not know.
According to local residents who witnessed the attack, unknown persons who arrived in Privatbank cash-in-transit vehicles and two jeeps opened fire on the Ukrainian military, who had previously refused to shoot at civilians.
- Residents of the Holy One defended their homes. Ukrainian soldiers were ordered to crush the resistance. They refused to shoot people, and in the end they were punished, ”says a source at the headquarters of the self-defense command.
According to the interlocutor, this was a punitive operation ordered by the oligarch Igor Kolomoisky, the owner of Privatbank, known for financing the Maidan protests and paying remuneration to the Right Sector fighters.

taken: http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1596886.html

[commode77]

Details on the Ukrainian military checkpoint fired by Nazi militants:
Kolomoisky’s people fired on them because the military refused to clean up Olginka
Victims of 35 wounded, 15 corpses in a city hospital, 3 corpses in a railway hospital.
A lot of heavy in intensive care. Still taken from the battlefield killed.

taken: http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1596886.html

[siberalt]

And that these columns had not moved before? They won't enter the cities. Now no cleansing is in the hands of the Kiev junta. There, where "bend" will put polling stations. This is the maximum program. Guys, don't fall for provocations! Take care of yourself. Everything is just beginning. Victory will come! Hold on. Russia did not withdraw the army for that. It will be completely different. The cards have not been dealt yet.

[Ural guys]

Yes, everything is very simple to launch "Proton-M" from the French atoll to reorient the indicators to the ground, then it will be the same as in Kazakhstan. Approximate region of the fall of the Alps. Then an avalanche and hello to the family. In which case Russia has nothing to do with it. One can refer to the previously expressed opinions of Western society about unleashing a large-scale terrorist war against Russia.

[Ural guys]

Yes, everything is very simple to launch "Proton-M" from the French atoll to reorient the indicators to the ground, then it will be the same as in Kazakhstan. Approximate region of the fall of the Alps. Then an avalanche and hello to the family. In which case Russia has nothing to do with it. One can refer to the previously expressed opinions of Western society about unleashing a large-scale terrorist war against Russia.

[Russ69]

The brigade commander talks about today's battle near Volnovakha ...

[Roshchin]

Unidentified mercenaries also flew helicopters and killed his soldiers? Did the mercenaries from the American PMC prepare helicopters for a combat flight? And this block was the only post 100 km around and it was impossible to intercept on another? And what is not in reserve with the commander of the mobile group so that he could organize the persecution? It cannot be that the attackers do not call for help from their command through communications. One conclusion suggests itself - the pan-commander sold his soldiers for his own skin.

[Dwarfik]

Gentlemen, no calls to go there in full march! Most importantly, lost time for maneuvers! Introducing troops now means blood will flow like a river, Slavic bloodshed, which is the worst! The South-East had to adjust to the Crimea and immediately rise while in Kiev there was a division of money, and they sat quietly. We also do not need 200 matches at home, and so they fought for everyone everywhere! Matsnabzhenie helped most likely, and the Ukrainian army is also not a fool in a peaceful peel!

[reservev18reg]

Dear, it does not seem to you that it is too late to introduce peacekeepers. We can only talk about the introduction in the EXTREME CASE of special forces, airborne forces and special structures, and only retaliatory actions in the event of a massacre of civilians. Point destruction of enemy clusters, but not how not to launch tanks there. until thousands of people die Russia will not do anything. You are all waiting and waiting. There would be no risk of World War 3, peacekeepers would have been introduced long ago. Yes, even in a situation where Russia who the hell will support who needs it. Lukashenko for the Nazis. Nazarbayev conspired with the Americans too. To push the duck right away, and there and Europe, tanks and amerikosu nuclear plush

[CadetXXX]

Yes, I agree, no one will support the Russian Federation, Lukashenko and he went nuts - http://topwar.ru/48462-lukashenko-gotov-k-voyne.html, even in my opinion, I lost fear, they probably forgot everything that Sometime Russia, all other countries of the USSR will get it in a couple of months, by the way, the same Lukashenko has already spoken about this earlier. We need to rely only on ourselves and possibly on China. As for the entry or "non-entry" of peacekeepers or the more troops of the Russian Federation here, our President knows better, we do not know all the information that he possesses. In addition, it is also necessary to suppress any assistance from the USA, NATO to Ukraine, by disclosing and publishing all this in the media. what the USA and NATO are doing, how much money is being transferred to accounts, whether or not weapons are supplied, etc. By sending troops to Ukraine, we can unleash a serious conflict, it is not known what exactly the tasks and goals set for themselves by the United States and NATO. Well, let them also remember, we have a tradition to celebrate the end of the war in the capital of the enemy. And yes ... we still have a fairly powerful nuclear weapon, if there is not enough space for everyone!

[kot28.ru]

I don’t care for the future of Ukraine, I’m from my father from there, but how long will the men stay in huts for skirts there? He wanted to, did Crimea, perhaps with our help, but nonetheless! And the Donbass is at home! Putin will help! Men , why on earth should my colleagues and I defend your homes if you have any food there? It’s just boiling already

[Andrey82]

Do not enter troops. NATO will thank us for such a "gift". Support with volunteers, equipment.
It would be nice to distract the United States in other regions, but our leaders do not. A purely defensive tactic will not bring to good.

[Imperial]

I don’t know, my heart bleeds, oh, I’ll get minuses, but maybe I can chew snot enough? preventive bombardments, attacks on the columns

[Bombardier]

[quote = рус69] The brigade commander talks about today's battle near Volnovakha ...
Doesn't it seem to you that the Brigade Commander (if he has the honor of an officer) should deploy the brigade against the Pravosek, otherwise "A column of cars with Ukrainian military is moving towards Donetsk." They neutralize, like gobies on grazing ... Shamelessly for the officers .. Or they have died over the years.

[Andrey82]

Yes, in his head "My hut on the edge" was a campaign. The guys did not understand that the enemy was not the militia, but the fascists of the Right Sector, Nat. Guards and foreign mercenaries.

[socrates7]

Judging by the photographs, in fact, combat vehicles and trucks were hit. The militias don’t have that much equipment. So this is a maydown technique. Maybe they will quietly destroy themselves?

[Orel]

So what? After this, they won’t even close the damn pipe. It turns out that we supply the Banderaites and the Nazis with Russian gas, who in turn destroy the peaceful Slavic population. In fact, it turns out that we are helping the fascist junta. Your mother! Where are the sanctions? One rotten market and loot, loot, loot... Only now it’s bloody loot.

[Roshchin]

They are rolling up new cannon fodder with an alternative - or shoot at the people or we will kill you. And something got stuck in the minds of the Ukrainian military. It turns out that if the militias don’t shoot you, the Right Sectors will kill you. Where should a poor warrior go? But it’s not possible to intercept the right-wing terrorists and arrange a show trial for them either. Or will they still figure it out?

[Monax]

So the civil war began. The point of no return has been passed. Yes, it’s too late to introduce the RF Armed Forces, and there’s no need to do so. How can you go to demonstrations and rallies, seize city administrative buildings, and then go to bed in the evening? This was the case in Kharkov. And now wait for the Russian soldiers - what or who are they themselves?
Lord Save and Help the military people of the DPR and LPR, and awaken people to action to protect life and honor!

[VD chauvinist]

... "The Motherland is calling!"
- Shaw?
- The homeland is calling you, your mother!
Those who do not want to defend their homeland will work as laborers for the Fatherland.

[Dezinto]

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[Sergio Miranda]

I can't understand what's really going on. And what is Russia's position. If you surrender to the DPR and LPR, this means admitting your own powerlessness to protect national geopolitical interests in the region. Our troops are withdrawing troops from the border with the pseudo-state of Ukrovina, while the Ukrops are building up their group in the east of the country and shelling residential areas, killing civilians. What is happening...Russia surrendered the south=east to please the West?

[Sergio Miranda]

DONETSK, May 22 – RIA Novosti. On the eve of the May 25 elections, Kyiv is increasing its military force involved in carrying out a military operation in the east of the country, Igor Strelkov, commander of the “people’s militia” in the activist-controlled city of Slavyansk, Donetsk region, told RIA Novosti.

“Today there is complete calm. Not a shot. As I understand it, they want to “clean up” the entire South-East “with one blow” - that’s why they are drawing forces to Lugansk - they are concentrating. So that tomorrow or the day after tomorrow we can start simultaneously everywhere: in Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Donetsk and Lugansk,” Strelkov said.

In particular, according to sources in the “people’s militia”, the arrival of new equipment was noted in several settlements of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, mainly located near the borders with other regions of Ukraine. So, on Thursday morning, a column of Ukrainian troops passed through the Veliko-Anadol station towards the village of Blagodatnoye (southern Donetsk region).