Merkel and Yatsenyuk make an offer to Putin

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19 May from Frau Merkel received an offer addressed to the Kremlin. The German chancellor asked Vladimir V. Putin to recognize the results of future elections in Ukraine. The next day, May 20, Mr. Yatsenyuk from Kiev made two statements: 1) suggested that europartners change the gas supply scheme from Russia; 2) told Gazprom that Ukraine would not make a prepayment for gas. It is clear that the West and Kiev, which joined it, decided to dictate the terms of "peace" to Russia.

Merkel and Yatsenyuk make an offer to Putin


On Monday, Frau Merkel talked on the phone with V. V. Putin. She is stressed the importance of the upcoming elections to stabilize the situation in Ukraine and appealed to the Russian president to "do everything in his power to support their conduct and recognize their results."

In addition, Angela Merkel said she was going to personally take care of improving relations between Russia and the EU. She also noted that decisive importance in relations between Germany and Russia will be what assessment will be received by the upcoming elections in Ukraine.

Then there was even a slight intimidation by the NATO bloc.

Merkel said that good relations with Russia meet the interests of Germany and the EU, however, although the Ukrainian conflict cannot be resolved by military means, NATO attaches great importance to the security of its partners and is ready to defend them.

After such a statement, which got into the world press, Yatsenyuk became inspired in Kiev.

As transmits "League", Ukraine has offered Europe to buy natural gas at the Ukrainian-Russian border, for which purpose to sign new agreements with Gazprom. This was stated by Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, referring to the leadership of the European Commission and the leaders of the EU states.

A quote from the appeal, published on the website of the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers:

“We propose to transfer the point of reception of Russian natural gas to the Russian-Ukrainian border and sign new relevant agreements that will allow European gas companies to use the free capacity of Ukrainian underground gas storage facilities in the common interest of energy security.”


It sounds, we note, somewhat strange: as if Yatsenyuk offers Europe to insure against theft of Russian gas by Ukraine. intended for the EU, but going through pipelines on the territory of the “independent”.

It turns out that there is nothing strange here: Yatsenyuk (he is an economist), apparently, counted something.

The interim prime minister said that Ukraine is a member of the European Energy Charter and the Energy Community, and therefore officially declares the need for joint modernization and operation of the Ukrainian gas transmission system, including underground gas storage facilities.

That's where the dog is buried. Yatsenyuk wants to make money on transit. Two dozen European companies cooperate with Gazprom, which supplies gas to the EU. Yatsenyuk would obviously like these companies to suddenly reorient themselves to cooperation with Kiev. It is implied that Gazprom is sort of like a monopolist in Europe (in fact, this is not true), which this Europe itself doesn’t really like. And then - brotherly Kiev. So to speak, pipeline power.

It is doubtful that foreign companies will go for such cooperation. Ukraine is a highly unstable country, unlike Russia. And she became famous for the theft of gas and the so-called "unreliability of transit." Yes, and contracts with "Gazprom" just are not altered. They are all long-term. Transit agreements are concluded for up to 2019 year!

According to "Forbes", large EU gas concerns (German “EON”, Italian “Eni”, French “GDF-Suez”, Austrian “OMV”), on the position of which most companies are oriented smaller, do not consider options for changing the gas receiving point to Ukraine for the future ten years old.

Well, well, let all these partners still hate Gazprom and turn their faces to Kiev.

But where is the money, Zin? In a sense, where are the capital investments for “modernization and operation”? After all, the treasury is empty.

It was then that Yatsenyuk and let it slip. The appeal notes that the Ukrainian state for this “modernization and operation” needs investors from the EU and the USA.

But this is absolutely amazing. It turns out that these companies should invest the interests of Yatsenyuk. Good economist, correct. The Chinese need to learn from him.

As for Russia, Yatsenyuk would like to remove it as much as possible from the “energy security of the European continent”: “We note separately that the Russian Federation is not a party to the above-mentioned international instruments that establish transparent rules for ensuring the energy security of the European continent”.

If we also recall that gas producers from the United States intend to actively develop shale on the independent, then the question of "ensuring the energy security of the European continent" is clarified to full transparency.

Two years ago someone Petro Poroshenko promised to supply Europe with shale gas, who worked as Minister of Economic Development and Trade for a brief period under VF Yanukovych. Nothing this man claimedthat in 10 years Ukraine will begin to export shale gas to the EU: “... Gas. Shale gas in ten years - in the European Union, and I believe it. "

Well, 8 years left. One of these days, a rich Mr. Poroshenko will be elected president, and not for one, for two terms on the throne he will have to prove the power of Ukraine’s gas power.

Let us return to our sheep, I mean Yatsenyuk.

"League" cites another point in the appeal of the current Prime Minister of Ukraine to the leadership of the EC and the leaders of the EU states. This point concerns the urgent issue of a new gas price, which Russia has exposed to Ukraine. On this occasion, Yatsenyuk said:

“We note that due to the absence on the part of the Russian side of an agreement to resolve the dispute over the price of natural gas, prepayment issues cannot be on the agenda of contractual relations.”


That is, to make an advance payment, as Moscow insists on, Kiev does not intend to.

The prime minister also said that Ukraine will file a lawsuit against Gazprom in the Stockholm arbitration. The subject of the claim is the price increase.

So, from the telephone statements of Frau Merkel and the subsequent address of the revived Mr. Yatsenyuk, it becomes clear: the West is going to “pacify” Moscow and Kiev through the mediation of Berlin.

The scenario is as follows: the Kremlin should retreat as far as possible from the Donetsk and Lugansk regions (which it did not approach), recognize the election of 25 in May as “legitimate” and even “legitimate”, i.e. agree that Ukraine’s protégés will rule reduce the price of gas for a separatist - otherwise international arbitration will require it: Yatsenyuk would not be useful there without backing Europe.
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  1. +63
    23 May 2014
    There is a lot of pathos, little help, it’s a pity that Putin is not enough Putin, with the current support of the people, the whole west would turn into a Weimar republic within two or three years.
    1. +75
      23 May 2014
      Eh, if everything were that simple ... Well, Putin cannot take on "One, two, three" and solve all problems at once, after all, big politics ...
      1. +37
        23 May 2014
        The whole question is how tuned everyone is to go to the end. And the beginning of summer will show whether gas will be shut off to Ukraine or not.
        1. +42
          23 May 2014
          and smart pirates always go around.
          rushing like a bull on a red rag is also not worth it, but you can’t raise its legs, the price of the issue is Russian people.
          1. +25
            23 May 2014
            In fact, Russia has already said its word on gas, what price is drawn in the contract, and Ukraine will pay or not pay for that. I do not think that the position of the GDP will somehow change, I think that he will simply ignore this nonsense.
            1. +17
              23 May 2014
              Well, with Frau, everything is more or less clear. She has her own cockroaches (German) in her head. But a misunderstanding, nicknamed Arseny has already taken laurels from all the humorists of Russia. I think the Furious has already reacted, laughed at his pleasure.)
              1. +8
                23 May 2014
                there Yatsenyuk without the back support of Europe would not have climbed.
                However, it is now clear through what place he is "supported". belay
            2. +25
              23 May 2014
              Gentlemen OFFICERS! And did you notice how quiet it was about gas from the USA? Somewhere in the vast ... I saw a map of the project-grandiose! I myself am an Estonian wife of Russia, and my mother-in-law (in Bashkiria), my beloved son-in-law!
            3. Fin
              0
              23 May 2014
              Quote: Canep
              In fact, Russia has already said its word on gas, what price is drawn in the contract, and Ukraine will pay or not pay for that.

              Already there were statements that Russia was ready to consider the issue of price, in case of payment of debt.
              As for the pipe, in the case of settlement on the eastern border, it will be quickly sold to amers, who will drive the Ukrainian along it. shale gas, keep on a leash the EU and will ruin us flow.
              1. +6
                23 May 2014
                Does the West need this pipe? After the construction of the South Stream, they do not need the Ukrainian gas transmission system for nothing. So they will not be invested. Russia is also not needed, especially since there is a prospect in the East. So Yatsenyuk’s proposal (he thinks that he is gaining political weight) does not need anyone for nothing.
                1. 0
                  25 May 2014
                  Yes, only UP have not yet paved from Russia will try to squeeze all the juices
          2. 0
            25 May 2014
            Yatsenyuk offers Europe to insure against theft of Russian gas by Ukraine. intended by the EU, but going through pipelines in the territory of the "independent".


            Twice convicted Igor Didenko, Prime Minister Yatsenyuk appointed Deputy Minister of Fuel and Energy. This appointment became one more proof that for the prime minister the question of lustration remains only on paper.

            Read more at: http://ukrday.com/politika/novosti.php?id=125130
        2. Andersen68
          +12
          23 May 2014
          But on June 3 we’ll see what's what.
        3. +3
          24 May 2014
          Actually, they count chickens in the fall. Here in the winter and see.
      2. +53
        23 May 2014
        But I’m wondering, if instead of reconciling according to Merkel’s scenario, we’ll send them with Yaytsenyukh on an erotic foot tour, what will happen? Does Merkel swear? Oh, I'm already scared, went to the far corner to cry sobbing ... crying
        1. +18
          23 May 2014
          Take me with you. An explosive duet. crying
          1. +19
            23 May 2014
            Can we figure it out for three? Friday is all the same ...
            1. +30
              23 May 2014
              sabakina
              You’ll be more careful there .... otherwise you will catch your imagination, and on Saturday morning you will wake up in the Reichtag ... and the Germans captured around you .... :)))) Then you will be ashamed of the world community ... and Mom will swear: ))))
        2. +21
          23 May 2014
          igor_m_p
          Does Merkel swear? Oh, it's scary ...


          But is it possible, in the end, to send Merkel to manhood? How she pursues a policy towards Russia, in my opinion, deserves it.
          1. +6
            23 May 2014
            Quote: vladimirZ
            But is it possible, in the end, to send Merkel to manhood?


            So I actually proposed wassat
            1. +6
              23 May 2014
              Quote: igor_m_p
              Quote: vladimirZ
              But is it possible, in the end, to send Merkel to manhood?


              So I actually proposed wassat
              1. Lyuba1965_01
                0
                25 May 2014
                Oh my God! Why is Lavrov such flour ?! What did he do wrong to you? A guy and so day and night talking with her on the phone, and then also in such a plan to offer her?
          2. +4
            23 May 2014
            Quote: vladimirZ
            But is it possible, in the end, to send Merkel to manhood?

            And you didn’t think she was doing this? laughing
          3. +2
            24 May 2014
            And here you hit the nail on the head. And after all, what a girlfriend was our president. How much good they have done in terms of business for both countries. And turn around 180 degrees. Here we also have a lesson in "warm friendly" relations.
            1. +1
              25 May 2014
              when such girlfriends turn around 180 then they also have to bend down with their pants down
          4. 0
            25 May 2014
            The Englishman sent Lavrov, and nothing! I ate oatmeal!
      3. +2
        23 May 2014
        yes it's gross politik
    2. +4
      23 May 2014
      Dear, I don’t think that V.V. Putin is more stupid than you! Do you understand what you wrote? To talk about such things, you need to be informed, well, like VV Putin, at least ... Are you a big strategic strategist? Or maybe you know and know more than V.V. Putin ...? Then you are the pridendants, try, maybe you can do better ...!? Although I doubt it very much ...
    3. +7
      23 May 2014
      Quote: Wellych
      , with the current support of the people, the whole west would turn into a Weimar republic within two to three years.

      It’s foolish to underestimate Putin, now he’ll not take any steps in St. Petersburg himself. What is unclear then, but Yatsenyuk cannot dictate terms, it's just a chatter for the electorate.
      1. +7
        23 May 2014
        The forum has nothing to do with it, in my personal opinion, the whole catastrophe with non-fallow was focused specifically on the deal between Russia and China. After all, everything was done to expose Gazprom (Russia), a sort of chaos. Remember, a substantive discussion about deliveries began in the 2004-2006 years, it was then that Putin began to be demonized. Even then, the Orange Revolution began in Georgia and Ukraine.
        And the agreement was signed, under the howl of the Bandera junta, with the filing of the EU and Tan.
      2. +2
        24 May 2014
        But who is this Yatsenyuk at all to set conditions for Putin? It’s even beyond Obama’s strength.
    4. +3
      23 May 2014
      Quote: Wellych
      There is a lot of pathos, a little sense

      Mr. Yatsenyuk from Kiev for Western partners is solemnly renamed Mr. Gazonyukh
      1. +3
        24 May 2014
        Quote: Cherdak
        Quote: Wellych
        There is a lot of pathos, a little sense

        Mr. Yatsenyuk from Kiev for Western partners is solemnly renamed Mr. Gazonyukh

        He’s a scumbag, not a scumbag!
        1. -1
          24 May 2014
          Quote: PENZYAC
          Quote: Cherdak
          Quote: Wellych
          There is a lot of pathos, a little sense

          Mr. Yatsenyuk from Kiev for Western partners is solemnly renamed Mr. Gazonyukh

          He’s a scumbag, not a scumbag!

          We will not rename it; I called it Yaytsenyuh half a year ago. Yaytsenyukh, he is far from gas, like cancer to China
    5. -2
      23 May 2014
      Wellych SU "It is a pity that Putin is not enough Putin, with the current support of the people,"
      ------------------------------------------------
      It was already written about this on the same site that Putin could very quickly lose this SUPPORT OF THE PEOPLE ... In fact, what is happening now, we are moving slowly towards the RECOGNITION by Moscow of the fascist Ukrainian JUNTA! Here I will give a link to the material posted right there in VO:
      http://politobzor.net/show-23164-putin-my-hotim-videt-mir-na-ukraine.html
      It is called "Putin: We Want to See Peace in Ukraine". And for those who are too lazy to follow the link, I will also copy the article:

      Russian President Vladimir Putin at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum said that Russia wants to see peace and tranquility in Ukraine.
      - We understand and see that people in Ukraine want the country to come out of the crisis. After the presidential campaign, we will accept the choice of the Ukrainian people. But we, at the same time, hope that hostilities will stop there, ”Putin said.

      “Of course, it would be much smarter to do what Yanukovych and the opposition agreed in February: to hold a referendum, adopt relevant laws, and then legally elect all the authorities. But under the current constitution today, a new president cannot be elected because there is Yanukovych who is not constitutionally removed from power. And you can remove him from power only by four points: death, illness, impeachment and personal resignation, Putin emphasized.

      “None of this was done.” According to the constitution, he is the current president. And why did the opposition create problems for itself that would affect the legitimacy of the elections? Alas, those who hold power in Kiev took a different path.

      Putin noted that, despite all the conflict situations, he wants the Ukrainian authorities to hold normal elections.

      “We also want some peace in Ukraine to come, that our fraternal people should live in peace and quiet,” the President of Russia emphasized.

      So it seems that the Southeast is slowly DRAWING ... So we'll see after that what RATINGS Putin will have ...
      1. +1
        23 May 2014
        Quote: alexdol
        Putin noted that, despite all the conflict situations, he wants the Ukrainian authorities to hold normal elections.

        Frau Merkel achieved her. Let's see if Herr Yaytsenyuh will achieve.
        1. +2
          23 May 2014
          Quote: matRoss
          Quote: alexdol
          Putin noted that, despite all the conflict situations, he wants the Ukrainian authorities to hold normal elections.

          Frau Merkel achieved her. Let's see if Herr Yaytsenyuh will achieve.

          Most likely, the elections in Ukraine will be the starting point, but for now, Russia is preparing an adequate answer. These are contracts with China and negotiations at the forum in St. Petersburg, I think a good number of contracts should be concluded again.
          Everyone plays his own game.
          We show that we can develop without Europe, and they want to throw us the problems of Ukraine for a sign of reconciliation.
          Here is June 3, who will see whom?
        2. +2
          24 May 2014
          So Putin just wants the Ukrainian authorities to hold elections. When you wish happiness and health and prosperity, do all your wishes come true right away? Then why all this is desired every year?
      2. saber1357
        +4
        24 May 2014
        Yes, paranoid thinking is, of course, a difficult case. But don't despair - Americans are much more paranoid, so you have a place to go. It is necessary, from one phrase of the GDP "We want to see peace in Ukraine" to draw such a far-reaching conclusion "The South-East is slowly being drained."
      3. +5
        24 May 2014
        Quote: alexdol
        So it seems that the Southeast is slowly DRAINING.

        Colleague, would you like Putin to say at this forum, "The EU is not good for you, and NATO is also 3.14dets. We will trample all of them with tanks, and those who survive will be left ... and we will dry up. Everything, war. And nuclear "
        Actually, he said, I quote you "some kind of reassurance," but did not say what kind. He did not fully disclose the topic.
        To not scare partners for the night.
      4. +3
        24 May 2014
        for too long this southeast swayed ... Everything was waiting, maybe it’ll blow ... alas, it didn’t. He would have performed together with the Crimea, you see, he would have been part of Russia ... So no one southeast merges, he merged himself ... in February ...
      5. +3
        24 May 2014
        Putin says everything correctly, nothing can be seen from the position of a soldier. Only the helmsman sees the whole situation.
      6. +2
        25 May 2014
        he said he recognizes the CHOICE of the PEOPLE, not the authorities, but about the elections, he said that they are not a priori legitimate.
      7. +1
        25 May 2014
        That's it - we'll see. Putin said to the microphone what he had to say. For him now the main thing is patience and endurance. Which you obviously don’t have, AlexDol.
    6. +2
      23 May 2014
      Quote: Wellych
      There is a lot of pathos, little help, it’s a pity that Putin is not enough Putin, with the current support of the people, the whole west would turn into a Weimar republic within two or three years.

      Quite confused gay ushlopki.
    7. Hunghuz
      0
      24 May 2014
      hi Yes, there were lives in our time) Svidomo Khazar tribe) Maydanyuki not you ......)))))) wrote a classic about ancient Ukrov
    8. dmitrij.blyuz
      0
      25 May 2014
      Merkel in the same clip. Old age is not joy. But Yaytsenyuk is strong, if Grandma is for him. We will have to raise not one, but two aspen trees. Oh, life! wassat
  2. +32
    23 May 2014
    Thank you Oleg for the article. hi Let us return to our sheep, I mean Yatsenyuk.-well said- good . hi hi
    1. 11111mail.ru
      +13
      23 May 2014
      Quote: retired
      Will be back to our sheepthat is to Yatsenyuk.

      No, Senya is not a ram, Hsien - shtatovsky.
      1. +1
        23 May 2014
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        No, Senya is not a ram, Senya is a staff goat

        smarter than rams, I tell you for sure, I keep both of them.
      2. +5
        23 May 2014
        Do not insult animals, they are more useful to humanity than to the Ukrainian government.
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      4. +2
        23 May 2014
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        No, Senya is not a ram, Senya is a staff goat.


        Previously, in slaughterhouses for sheep pounding for the slaughter itself, one feature of the sheep was used: they always follow someone. A goat was launched into the flock. This confidently walked along the well-known route to the slaughterhouse, where the sheep were slaughtered. he was gaining a new company of sheep. The most interesting thing here is the name of the goat - a goat provocateur!
        1. +1
          25 May 2014
          I can’t put 1000000 pluses, but one set! take the rest so
      5. +9
        23 May 2014
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        Quote: retired
        Will be back to our sheepthat is to Yatsenyuk.

        No, Senya is not a ram, Hsien - shtatovsky.

        Senya - a wasteter of lands ...
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        2. 0
          25 May 2014
          Not only is he a wasteter of land Senya tupit more and more
      6. raf
        +1
        25 May 2014
        No need to offend livestock !!!! Here "jackal or hyena" would be just right!
    2. ZSP
      +1
      23 May 2014
      but I liked more about support laughing - there Yatsenyuk without the back support of Europe would not have climbed.

      I join in gratitude addressed to the author.
      1. 0
        23 May 2014
        Quote: ZSP
        there Yatsenyuk without back support

        without back? laughing nude nude.
  3. +17
    23 May 2014
    "It is quite obvious that the West and Kiev, which joined it, decided dictate Russian conditions "Peace"."
    Two keywords are highlighted, only for the first bets I think that they are stronger and the second is clearly in quotes! Here on the face the whole essence of geyropov !!! DICTATE!
    And this sneak p.e.d.o.s.k.i. Yaykininyuhuschy only and can open his mouth with the permission of Western Papic and Mamik. Fu m.lya!
    Do not listen and do not believe and do not recognize !!! gas off after June 3!
    all the busts of krapuziki, the dances are over !!!
    1. +4
      23 May 2014
      The West dictates the terms of peace for us. They sailed. The inevitable consequence of the refusal to implement the Abkhazian and Ossetian scenario to provide assistance to Yu.V. Everything could have turned out differently: active actions of the people's army, scattered Nazi units are scattering wherever, the liberation of New Russia from fascism, the army of New Russia approaches Kiev, the leaders of the Nazi clique in a panic pack their bags, the West puts forward strict demands of the army of Novorossia not to cross the border with Ukraine. It could have been otherwise.
    2. +4
      23 May 2014
      Quote: Veles75
      "It is quite obvious that the West and Kiev, which joined it, decided to dictate the terms of" peace "to Russia."

      As Lavrov said-a bankrupt cannot, either demand (dictate) anything, a bankrupt can only politely ask.
    3. Djein
      +1
      23 May 2014
      [quote = veles75] The West and Kiev connected to it decided to dictate conditions to Russia

      These moral U_R_O_D_Y will still dictate something to us .... ??? And this is after all that happened ....... ??? No comment..........
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  4. +20
    23 May 2014
    Ahrenet! Ukrainians are completely insolent! They don’t believe that they will be cut off gas for debts? Europe pay for your slaves!
    1. 225chay
      +11
      23 May 2014
      Quote: brelok
      Ahrenet! Ukrainians are completely insolent! They don’t believe that they will be cut off gas for debts? Europe pay for your slaves!


      And where are the Ukrainians?
      Turchina Yaitsenyukh, Timashenko Kalomoets, parashenka, Avakov what relation to Ukrainians have?
      This "Internationale" is the enemies of the Ukrainian and Slavic people in general, who started a civil war, and are guilty of the beginning of the genocide.
      1. +14
        23 May 2014
        Well, turn off the gas, well, they will begin to steal again, so what? How many corpses and liters of Russian blood are needed for us to provide real support for Yu-V? And not empty talk that no one hears and withdrawal-drive troops on their territory, which no one also sees, by the way. It’s sick to see, people live in cellars, they burn them, they shoot them, and we are to blame for them ourselves, we’ve got the fascists divorced and suffer. These people (our people, Russians, many relatives there) still believe, ask for help, beg ... Do we? And we persuade Europe to turn on the brain, admit the obvious, change its mind about mocking America over Ukraine, rejoice in the courage of 2-3 journalists who dared to speak out against the system and write the obvious. Why, do we need this recognition of the West, which will never be easy, because we are Russia, why do we want to prove to them that we are civilized and do not solve matters by war, if at the same time they destroy and kill Russian people? I understand. perhaps through diplomatic ways Russia is trying to defend international law for the sake of happiness, heaps of other people in the world (the whole world), but is it really necessary to sacrifice hundreds or thousands of Russian people again for this? Okay, we’re waiting ... for the parliamentary elections ... the election of the fascist president .... June 3 ... what else? Oh yes, the economy. It will become difficult for us. Our prices will rise, our salaries will not increase, if we suddenly decide, God forbid, help Yu-V, or maybe this is the main reason for our inaction? I am ashamed even to listen to the news on TV, I am afraid to hear prayers and requests for help again, to see new victims ... Minus-plus, this is such a trifle.
        I do not call to bomb Kiev, but, Mr. Putin, with all due respect to him, if I promised to protect the Russians, then let it do it real, and not by exchanging dummies, IMHO.
        1. +15
          23 May 2014
          nika 407 - Are you ashamed that the Russian army does not come to the rescue? To - those who are sitting in the basement and are not going to defend their interests! Yes, there are Russians, but if these Russians do not want to fight for their freedom, why should our children (and yours too) fight for their freedom. I understand that if hundreds, at least tens of thousands of residents of the Donetsk and Lugansk republics came out to fight the fascists and they needed weapons for this fight. So there’s not even just thousands. Where is the mass of resistance. If it was easy to transfer military equipment left over from the Ukrainian army to these republics. Formally, we would not even violate the law, since we returned Ukrainian weapons to Ukraine. So it is really necessary to begin to act by the inhabitants of these republics themselves, and not cry for help without doing anything themselves. Individual heroes who are fighting there now are an exception to the rule, which, as usual, only confirms this rule.
          1. fedorovith
            +1
            23 May 2014
            That's right, but in a year the invaders will say, if we climb there, then this is not the time.
          2. +3
            23 May 2014
            Thousands of volunteers showed that they were recording. The quantity was called, I don’t remember about 15-2 thousand. It seems. The main complaints were the lack of weapons and ammunition. DNR reports that volunteers go from Russia across the border. I wrote that I did not urge to fight for the southeast. Just explain why Moscow banned the demonstration in defense of Yu-V? Why is humanitarian aid sent mainly to Syria and Serbia (though today I saw a modest mention of the fact that humanitarian aid was collected by the Liberal Democratic Party)? I’m silent about the supply of weapons ... Well, if not time, let's wait. Maybe, after the destruction of the last resistance, the question itself will be removed :( We have long been occupiers in the eyes of the world community - after the annexation of Crimea.
            1. KC4E
              +2
              24 May 2014
              The world community is liars and provocateurs. Any way they need fragmentation and decline of Russia. By the way, ordinary people from the USA and Germany speak out in support of Russia.
            2. Bear
              +1
              25 May 2014
              Don't you think that even without the secret, non-military support of Russia, all these "rebels" would not have held out even a week against an inferior army? And this despite the fact that the majority of the population prefers to sit at home? You know, the days of "popular uprising against the vile invaders" are long gone. This is true, by the way, for both sides of the conflict. I am inclined to think that what we are seeing in Ukraine today is a conflict of oligarchs in the post-Yanukov space. And on the part of the "separatists" there are also interests of a number of very rich citizens of Ukraine. Only a sick in the head Ukrainian man in the street hangs out on network resources, watering everything around with his feces and not seeing further than his gray nose.
          3. KC4E
            0
            24 May 2014
            Quote: Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
            Yes, there are Russians, but if these Russians do not want to fight for their freedom, why should our (and yours) children fight for their freedom
            ARE YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN NOT RUSSIAN ??? . We must not "throw arrows", but be one people!
            1. +2
              24 May 2014
              If something like this happened here, I did not hesitate to take the "Saiga" out of the safe and go to fight, although I retired for more than 10 years, my health allows me and I have some experience. But in Donetsk and Luhansk regions there are exactly the same retirees who know how to hold weapons in their hands. And they prefer to stay at home. So this arrangement suits them. Here you are all talking about "a single people number. So those who sit at home do not, apparently, consider themselves such a single people. They have strong dependent sentiments - let an uncle from outside come and protect them. There was no mass character, and there is still no. Strelkov points out directly to this. By the way, he didn’t complain about the shortage of weapons. with a cozy basement where you can sit in. So it turns out that only a small number of the local male combat-ready population is actually fighting, while the rest are sitting and waiting for someone to do it for them.
              1. raf
                +1
                25 May 2014
                Quite right! Their age-old principle, "my hut is on the edge", is at work.
        2. KC4E
          +1
          24 May 2014
          nika 407, you are right. We, as a people, are being driven into a corner. But the law of nature .... "The most dangerous animal is the one who has been driven into a corner."
      2. +1
        23 May 2014
        set a plus, but all the same, Ukrainians have to do with it. And who went and supported the Maidan, who is now participating in the punitive operation in the South-East? I understand that they’ve beaten their head for more than one year. Now they have set up roadblocks under Kiev to repel Russian tanks ,, but still you can’t be so near-sighted., that the Poles helped you to your son, and they all forgot.
  5. +15
    23 May 2014
    I am sure that from Merkel's part this is the last "spit into hopelessness", so to speak: "I did everything I could ...", then there will be a "freeze", which will cool the ardor of European integrators and the initiative will completely pass to the Kremlin.
    1. +12
      23 May 2014
      Quote: Predator-74
      I am sure that from Merkel's part this is the last "spit into hopelessness", so to speak: "I did everything I could ...", then there will be a "freeze", which will cool the ardor of European integrators and the initiative will completely pass to the Kremlin.

      I agree, namesake, it's time to put a big and bold DOT !!! And then they will continue to indicate what to do where and how to think! Send all the forest !!!
  6. +11
    23 May 2014
    Klassnaja Statja - v to4ku !!!
    1. +11
      23 May 2014
      Quote: Elena
      Klassnaja Statja - v to4ku !!!

      Oleg Chuvakin he is Yes . Sniper!
    2. +4
      23 May 2014
      Quote: Elena
      Klassnaja Statja - v to4ku !!!

      Herzlichen Dank, Elena! love
  7. -17
    23 May 2014
    But it can be acknowledged, so that later you have such a trump card in negotiations on gas payments, gas is all-all-all
    1. +19
      23 May 2014
      Yeah, to admit, and then to squeeze the head between the legs, and these scumbags will not recognize the trumps, at the UN they decide and will do as they need, it is impossible to concede in any case - these are fascists.
      1. -5
        23 May 2014
        We’ll wait, it’s not long left, but there we will see
    2. +8
      23 May 2014
      Quote: saag
      such a trump card in gas negotiations

      it’s pointless to negotiate with today's junta for the price; they won’t pay all one even for $ 100
      I think they have the task of grabbing more until they turn around so the credit money is just sleeping .....
  8. +17
    23 May 2014
    But Yatsenyuk is what, he can now say any nonsense. After May 25, he will sharpen skis from Ukraine somewhere closer to blessed America - to give lectures, to curry favor with the owners.
  9. +3
    23 May 2014
    It looks like this woman chancellor has a problem with brains (only where is her two-tone pioneer tie and a drum on her neck)? Well, where does this Baptist "preacher" go - "with a jug snout and in a Kalashny row"? Well, paskudy talk after June 2 and find out who will pay debts for gas for "Svidomo"! Here the impudent "want to climb on a pine tree and not peel your ass"!
  10. +15
    23 May 2014
    Yatsenyuk's logic is similar to that of a car thief who returns it to its owner for a "reward" ...
  11. +10
    23 May 2014


    TOP Universal RUSSIAN MOBILIZATION throughout the CIS! (Maximum Repost)
    23 May 2014, Empire
    Guys, everyone who wants and can help their brothers and sisters in Ukraine!

    Everyone understands that this is a war of international bankers and transnational corporations with Russia, Russians, Slavs, with the whole white race. We intentionally pitted to make us even smaller. We are well aware of this, but until we give these dogs a dent in the teeth, and so that all fly out, they will not calm down and will continue and increase this bloody lawlessness.

    Each of us is simply obligated, to ourselves, to our wives and children, to our grandchildren and future generations of the Slavs, to stand up for the protection of our home.

    I am now in Rostov, I can provide a corridor and "EVERYTHING" necessary for this. Many have families and relatives in Ukraine, people simply cannot sit at home when this happens, and they make their way there in small groups of 4,5-10 people, go into the unknown with bare hands !!

    Let's create an IRON FIST and hit them once and for all !! The army will not fight against the people, and those corrupt skins do not know how (this was shown by the attack on the Stanitsa Lugansk checkpoint: out of 60 attacking SS 40 20s and 300 prisoners, with ours there are not even easy XNUMX), so victory will be ours. The question is with the PMCs, but do we have few good "specialists" ??!

    Now all the garbage in the form of mercenaries for the money to kill their brothers has gathered in Ukraine, so let's wipe them off the face of the earth with one IRON FIST !!

    My contacts for coordination:

    Skype: sonnar44, Krasnodon
    Email: [email protected]
    Megaphone: + 79381274891
    MTS Ukraine: + 380999011411
    1. +6
      23 May 2014
      I read it on Twitter yesterday, the Prime Minister of the DPR wrote that Russian volunteers do not leak through the border, but simply go through it :) Weakly, but it was comforting.
  12. +9
    23 May 2014
    The fact of the matter is that Russia also does not want to lose European customers as well as supplier Europeans.
    They use what we NEED to sell, and we use what they NEED to buy. The main question - who needs it ?! There is a game, a bluff, but the time for tightening the nuts is not unlimited, the spring will still shoot. And what a pity, because it was all more or less less stable. Until the herd of men * came to power through the heads and hands of our dumb-headed brothers in mind from Ukraine, who simply have nothing to do but arrange dances around the Maidan bonfire.
    1. Djein
      +1
      23 May 2014
      Quote: DimSanych
      They enjoy


      Let the lessons be enjoyed, but to start dictating something is already beyond ....

      Talk with a beast - ry-em who does not pay debts, and at the same time sues us ... ??? To do this, completely lose self-respect ....
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  13. +3
    23 May 2014
    Money, prepayments, repayments .... And where is the state’s gold reserve?
    2 / 3 of the gold reserve of Europe is stored in the USA, therefore they are silent. So when in February and March they wrote about transport planes, they exported gold to America. Therefore, the United States is holding on to Ukraine. Then they have little money, but here it’s sharp
    In general, the House of Representatives decided to allocate 2015 billion dollars for defense needs in the 1 fiscal year starting in the US on October 600. According to congressmen’s plans, of this amount, 495,8 billion will go to the Pentagon budget, 17,9 billion to the Department of Energy’s programs to improve nuclear weapons, and 79,4 billion to military operations abroad, including in Afghanistan.
    http://news.mail.ru/politics/18294224/?frommail=1

    Kiev, understands that it will not return the money - they will calculate everything and for everything.
    Maybe not so, but judging by what is happening, the conclusion suggests itself ... what
    IMHO
    1. 0
      23 May 2014
      Quote: Ruswolf
      And where is the state’s gold reserve?


      By the way, where is our money stored? Not by chance in the Fed?
      1. +1
        23 May 2014
        Fed, prints money, not stores.
  14. +6
    23 May 2014
    "Dreams, dreams, where is your sweetness?"
    Dream guys, dream. The EU has already been celebrated with Merkel, especially after the signing of the gas contract in China. Now, it’s not right to patronize the junta of Kiev, but to please Russia by all possible means so that the valve is not blocked.
    1. 0
      23 May 2014
      Right! Vaseline still needs to be earned!
    2. 52
      0
      23 May 2014
      That's the whole trouble, the obvious is not perceived by these creatures from Mars, the inertia of thinking is obvious (or what this process replaces for these conchito-worshipers), but x..rope is no longer de facto any full-fledged force, only a mouthpiece mattress, and she sings not only from someone else's voice, but, along the way, and not at all with her mouth. Or the second version, after all, the independent trochs poured off Merkel, and then "Savras was carried off without a bridle." fool
  15. +8
    23 May 2014
    Yeah, still take off his pants, sprinkle ashes on his head, ask everyone for forgiveness for his existence, well, etc. The West with its Kiev Fuhrer lives in some kind of their own world, they are used to giving commands to their lackeys and demand execution, and Kiev self-proclaimed ones there too, let Yaytsenyukh demand from Turchinov and vice versa, well, in an extreme case, from his wives.
    1. +2
      23 May 2014
      Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
      well, as a last resort with their wives.

      They do not give.
  16. +5
    23 May 2014
    In general, the security of the gas pipe, more precisely, of the gas supply, is already a reason for our intervention (as well as NATO). Yesterday there was an article by Anatoly Wasserman "Preserving a united Ukraine is the best option for Russia", everything is so, but on condition that this "united Ukraine" will be friendly to Russia, or at least neutral. What shines for us with the legalization of the junta can hardly be welcomed as the best option, all the more so under a "united" Ukraine. The problem with gas, if not crap, will be solved instantly, just as the problem with the basing of our fleet in Crimea was solved, Ukraine should again become Russia. Frau Merkel wants the good of her Germany and the people of Ukraine, let them recognize the legitimacy of the referendums in the southeast of Ukraine, as well as the importance and legitimacy of Russia's national interests in Ukraine.
  17. +2
    23 May 2014
    A moron gave birth to a moron, read: the State Department gave birth to an egg ....
  18. +8
    23 May 2014
    turn off the gas and enjoy the circus!
    1. +8
      23 May 2014
      Quote: free
      turn off the gas and enjoy the circus!

      Popcorn and beer aren’t enough- Yes ... have to switch to seeds and kvass ...
      1. 0
        25 May 2014
        I agree to radish, horseradish and kvass with seeds, but the gas is shut off!
  19. Dbnfkmtdbx
    +5
    23 May 2014
    I’m from intermediaries such as Merkel who simply go along with her what they’re not translating correctly that she doesn’t understand what’s happening and if they translate correctly, she’s seriously ill wassat
  20. +3
    23 May 2014
    Well "pure water" anecdote
  21. +2
    23 May 2014
    How much can the face of the president of the Russian Federation be published with a similar expression? What better photo was not found?
    Frau, the hut as you like, but ours no, no.
  22. +5
    23 May 2014
    Rams you must graze. Until America is put in its place, it will crap to the last.
  23. 0
    23 May 2014
    It sounds, we note, somewhat strange: as if Yatsenyuk offers Europe to insure against theft of Russian gas by Ukraine. intended for the EU, but going through pipelines on the territory of the “independent”.

    Well, why is it strange if we assume that the gas pipeline is sold (at what price it is not clear), then this is a good disguise of this action
  24. +1
    23 May 2014
    lower the price of gas for an autonomous one - otherwise international arbitration would require it: there Yatsenyuk would not have gone there without the back support of Europe

    or maybe it’s just not to sell it as an independent ?!
  25. parus2nik
    +3
    23 May 2014
    The arms are twisted ... But ... the gas contract with China has been signed ... we can’t supply gas to Europe ..
  26. 0
    23 May 2014
    They made an offer. Yeah, holes and hearts ... GDP is not a junkman (this is about Merkel) and not gay (this is about Yaytsonyuha)
  27. 0
    23 May 2014
    It turns out that there is nothing strange here: Yatsenyuk (he is an economist), apparently, counted something.

    MU..AK he can’t find another definition !! laughing
  28. +19
    23 May 2014
    Ukraine is a great pipeline power ....
    It is said strongly! Powerfully bent, impress!
    Carry a record!
    1. +1
      23 May 2014
      Quote: podpolkovnik
      Ukraine is a great pipeline power ....

      stop
      Pipe metal scrap - Yes
    2. necha265
      0
      23 May 2014
      Without gas, it will look like just SEWERING! And after a couple of years, they’ll take it apart!)))))))))))))
      1. 0
        23 May 2014
        The pipelines are already PPC. Kalomoisky pumps out reserves.
  29. +15
    23 May 2014
    Yaytsenyuk's plan in action .. laughing
    1. waisson
      +5
      23 May 2014
      ---------------- hi
  30. +5
    23 May 2014
    As they say in Russia? ....... For any tricky w / o / p / y there is x / p / e / n with a screw.
    Do they think the whole world is fools? Well, okay, we are "quilted jackets" and "Colorado" are considered stupid, but as you can see from this proposal, they equated the Europeans with us. They alone are "smart".
    So let the egghead be prepared. It will fly further than it sees.
  31. Sergei 57
    +5
    23 May 2014
    Merkel is no longer willing to bargain, but she is no longer used to doing it, all the threats and orders, but with RUSSIA it no longer passes. So gentlemen Europeans, learn to speak on equal terms will come in handy.
  32. +3
    23 May 2014
    It’s necessary to be naive or sick at the head, Russia that the Bonan Republic is really to believe that our interests can be ignored, I think it will be as Russia will say, and maybe it’s possible and soften the position, just where it happened so that the wolf’s sheep ... ah, you heard about this, I personally do not!
  33. +1
    23 May 2014
    All this reminds me of an anecdote about business. Two meet. "Buy a car of jam from me." Okay. One went to look for a carriage, the second money. The trick is that Russia has gas, but Europe does not.
  34. +1
    23 May 2014
    Well, let's see what our president will say ...
  35. +3
    23 May 2014
    You can consider these Merkel conditions if:
    The Crimean referendum is recognized in Ukraine and the West,
    water flows to Crimea uninterruptedly,
    a land corridor from Russia through the territory of Ukraine to the Crimea was provided.
    1. +1
      23 May 2014
      yes that's just the trick, with the same water they (the government of Ukraine) will do the same as with gas - deliver on paper, but in real life the North Crimean canal will remain dry ...
  36. Orc-xnumx
    +1
    23 May 2014
    Kiev idiocy is contagious!
    1. 0
      23 May 2014
      In the course of Europe, an epidemic of moronism. It's time Onishchenko to return to the post.
  37. +4
    23 May 2014
    But there is a small problem. These elections are a priori illegitimate. http://varjag-2007.livejournal.com/6170640.html
  38. +1
    23 May 2014
    Quote: Veles75
    "It is quite obvious that the West and Kiev, which joined it, decided dictate Russian conditions "Peace"."
    Two keywords are highlighted, only for the first bets I think that they are stronger and the second is clearly in quotes! Here on the face the whole essence of geyropov !!! DICTATE!
    And this sneak p.e.d.o.s.k.i. Yaykininyuhuschy only and can open his mouth with the permission of Western Papic and Mamik. Fu m.lya!
    Do not listen and do not believe and do not recognize !!! gas off after June 3!
    all the busts of krapuziki, the dances are over !!!

    If GACE can hint at something else all over, then Ukraine is getting into where?!, Yatsuha would think when he opens his mouth !?
  39. +4
    23 May 2014
    Merkel is right on the joke. Today, the Gestapo came displeased, cursing a lot!
  40. +2
    23 May 2014
    And Russia, that in some war it lost, that some conditions dictate to it?
  41. +1
    23 May 2014
    without back support

    In the context of Yatsenyuk, this sounds somewhat ambiguous.
    1. 0
      23 May 2014
      Just very clear! laughing
  42. 0
    23 May 2014
    Whether we recognize the presidential election or not, Ukraine is violet. So far, I have not heard the opinion of a single expert about selling gas to Europe on the Ukrainian border, all the pros and cons ...
  43. LIS 25
    +3
    23 May 2014
    Already got it, turn off the gas and let stoke the wood. Do not recognize these pseudo-choices. am
    1. Fanat1984
      +1
      23 May 2014
      There is one BIG problem in your statement: EVERYTHING IS EQUAL FOR THE FIREBOARDS IN SIBERIA AND SIBERIA IS RUSSIA !!!!! laughing
  44. 0
    23 May 2014
    gas companies are invited to purchase gas at the border of the Russian Federation. Ukraine is waiting for investors from the EU and the USA. I correctly understood that the gas transmission system does not belong to Ukraine anymore? or just about to bid. if so then it’s more logical for Gazprom to negotiate a transit with the owners and Kiev sideways
  45. Fanat1984
    0
    23 May 2014
    Putin did everything in his power to conduct elections in Ukraine, withdrew troops from the border with Ukraine !!! The next day, pravoseki rushed to Lugansk ... And how to understand this? am
    1. necha265
      0
      23 May 2014
      We rushed and immediately raked))))))))))) In full
    2. +1
      23 May 2014
      The censor is already howling that Putin withdrew the troops only after he was convinced that the ukrovnye were worthless, and Russia's intervention was no longer needed.

      Domin is not closed
      And the last nail is not driven ...
      Shche ne vmerla Ukraine!
      But the darling has already crawled
  46. 0
    23 May 2014
    The Kremlin should deviate as far as possible from the Donetsk and Lugansk regions (which it hasn’t approached), recognize the May 25 elections as “legal” and even “legitimate,” that is, agree that Western proteges will rule Ukraine and lower the price by gas for independent - otherwise international arbitration would require it: there Yatsenyuk would not have gone there without the back support of Europe.

    Putin should show them the tray, not go to such conditions.
  47. +5
    23 May 2014
    There was such an excellent story "The Leader of the Redskins" by my respected O. Henry. There the bandits took the boy hostage - they barely paid off later. So, Mrs. Merkel and Mr. Obama, Donetsk and Lugansk with Odessa and Kharkov, leave, and take the rest hostage. I think that by December you will pay extra for Russia to be taken back. Well, we will consider the issue with the allies, subject to our conditions, of course ;-)
  48. +1
    23 May 2014
    Merkelsha promised Yutsonyuha that he would defend the interests of ukroin and did not want to understand, the interests of the rabbit and the interests of ukroin are diametrically opposed. By the way, if the rabbit blocks the EU gas, they will have fried rabbit on the table in the form of a dish
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  50. +1
    23 May 2014
    they don’t recognize the referendum in Crimea, we don’t recognize the elections in Ukraine - the score is the same ... the funniest thing for us and for them all these mutual confessions ...
  51. +1
    23 May 2014
    Compare:

    “In addition, Angela Merkel said that she was going to personally take care of improving relations between Russia and the EU. She also noted that the decisive factor in relations between Germany and Russia will be how the upcoming elections in Ukraine are assessed.”

    и

    “We have a rough idea of ​​what the promises of our Western partners are worth...” (S. Lavrov).

    IMHO, the bourgeoisie no longer know what to say...
  52. +2
    23 May 2014
    The whole joke is that one of the statements of the junta when it first came to power was the privatization of Ukrnaftogaz, including Ukrtransgaz (in other words, pipes), which it categorically opposed before coming to power. Everything is very logical. Very interesting guys appear in the leadership of a little-known offshore company simulating gas production in Ukraine - Biden Junior and ex-Kwasniewski. It seems that this office will be the winner of the gas pipeline bidding. But for this it is necessary that Russia and the EU agree to this. Russia will not agree to this. Therefore, the EU needs to be “convinced” a lot. And to do this, it is necessary to minimize Russia’s influence on the gas transportation component, which is why they are trying to move the point of control to the border of Russia and Ukraine. This will happen when Russia limits gas supplies to Ukraine, which, in fact, provokes this, because It will be necessary to show the EU members the difference between the gas pumped and stolen by Ukraine. And this will have to be done. This means that Russia will not be able to limit gas supplies without losing influence on the pipeline. BUT... In reality, there is a civil war in Ukraine. And who from the junta can guarantee the safety of the pipe without losing its image?
  53. +5
    23 May 2014
    Russia can accept the elections, but with conditions. 1. The West and Ukraine recognize the reunification of Crimea to Russia. 2. Ukraine undertakes to repay ALL debts to Russia and Russian companies. The West must act as a guarantor for the repayment of all debts. 3. Ukraine and the West must recognize the rights of the South and East of Ukraine (Novorossiya) to self-determination. 4. Ukrainian authorities must allow Russian and German investigators to investigate the Odessa massacre.
    And now regarding the West’s position towards Russia. Although the West does not benefit from sanctions against Russia, we must admit that the benefits from the West’s colonization of Ukraine will outweigh all their losses. Both economic and political. Therefore, Russia should also reconsider its further moves in the event that the West revises its agreements with Gazprom (acceptance at the Russian-Ukrainian border). Russia should reconsider the payment currency in response to this. Namely, switch to rubles when paying for gas and oil. This will hit the West's ambitions and their economy very hard.
    1. 0
      23 May 2014
      Quote: tnk1969
      Although the West does not benefit from sanctions against Russia, we must admit that the benefits from the West’s colonization of Ukraine will outweigh all their losses. Both economic and political.

      Why suddenly? What is so rich about Ukraine that might interest the West? Only the following:
      1. Ensuring the security of Russian transit.
      2. Human resources.
      3. Land for agriculture.
      4. Metallurgy.
      Point 1 cannot be fulfilled without Russia.
      P.2 is very doubtful. Western Europe is “developing” the human resources of Eastern European countries, and in the next at least 10 years they don’t need much more.
      P.3 - Europe has a lot of its own land, they don’t need a competitor in this market.
      P.4 - Europe is not very interested in metal. The concerns of Germany, Luxembourg and France will strongly object.
      All that remains is geopolitics, that is, a nightmare for Russia - the deployment of NATO troops - read US - in the soft underbelly of Russia. But this is provoking an adequate response. Russia can again produce medium-range missiles and again, as in the 80s, hold Europe by the throat ("thanks" to Gorbachev for destroying the world's best missile systems RSD-10 - it's like Topol, but it shoots closer).
      There is no point for Europe to meddle in Ukraine at all. Only the USA needs this.
  54. 0
    23 May 2014
    Stand your ground like a rock!
  55. 0
    23 May 2014
    I completely agree with the expression on the face of OUR RESPECTED PRESIDENT! like YAKUEYU with such a proposal.... shouldn’t you go to (_._) negative
  56. -1
    23 May 2014
    Russia can accept the elections, but with conditions. 1. The West and Ukraine recognize the reunification of Crimea to Russia. 2. Ukraine undertakes to repay ALL debts to Russia and Russian companies. The West must act as a guarantor for the repayment of all debts. 3. Ukraine and the West must recognize the rights of the South and East of Ukraine (Novorossiya) to self-determination. 4. Ukrainian authorities must allow Russian and German investigators to investigate the Odessa massacre.
    And now regarding the West’s position towards Russia. Although the West does not benefit from sanctions against Russia, we must admit that the benefits from the West’s colonization of Ukraine will outweigh all their losses. Both economic and political. Therefore, Russia should also reconsider its further moves in the event that the West revises its agreements with Gazprom (acceptance at the Russian-Ukrainian border). Russia should reconsider the payment currency in response to this. Namely, switch to rubles when paying for gas and oil. This will hit the West's ambitions and their economy very hard.
  57. 0
    23 May 2014
    Russia can accept the elections, but with conditions. 1. The West and Ukraine recognize the reunification of Crimea to Russia. 2. Ukraine undertakes to repay ALL debts to Russia and Russian companies. The West must act as a guarantor for the repayment of all debts. 3. Ukraine and the West must recognize the rights of the South and East of Ukraine (Novorossiya) to self-determination. 4. Ukrainian authorities must allow Russian and German investigators to investigate the Odessa massacre.
    And now regarding the West’s position towards Russia. Although the West does not benefit from sanctions against Russia, we must admit that the benefits from the West’s colonization of Ukraine will outweigh all their losses. Both economic and political. Therefore, Russia should also reconsider its further moves in the event that the West revises its agreements with Gazprom (acceptance at the Russian-Ukrainian border). Russia should reconsider the payment currency in response to this. Namely, switch to rubles when paying for gas and oil. This will hit the West's ambitions and their economy very hard.
  58. 0
    23 May 2014
    Russia can accept the elections, but with conditions. 1. The West and Ukraine recognize the reunification of Crimea to Russia. 2. Ukraine undertakes to repay ALL debts to Russia and Russian companies. The West must act as a guarantor for the repayment of all debts. 3. Ukraine and the West must recognize the rights of the South and East of Ukraine (Novorossiya) to self-determination. 4. Ukrainian authorities must allow Russian and German investigators to investigate the Odessa massacre.
    And now regarding the West’s position towards Russia. Although the West does not benefit from sanctions against Russia, we must admit that the benefits from the West’s colonization of Ukraine will outweigh all their losses. Both economic and political. Therefore, Russia should also reconsider its further moves in the event that the West revises its agreements with Gazprom (acceptance at the Russian-Ukrainian border). Russia should reconsider the payment currency in response to this. Namely, switch to rubles when paying for gas and oil. This will hit the West's ambitions and their economy very hard.
  59. -1
    23 May 2014
    Russia can accept the elections, but with conditions. 1. The West and Ukraine recognize the reunification of Crimea to Russia. 2. Ukraine undertakes to repay ALL debts to Russia and Russian companies. The West must act as a guarantor for the repayment of all debts. 3. Ukraine and the West must recognize the rights of the South and East of Ukraine (Novorossiya) to self-determination. 4. Ukrainian authorities must allow Russian and German investigators to investigate the Odessa massacre.
    And now regarding the West’s position towards Russia. Although the West does not benefit from sanctions against Russia, we must admit that the benefits from the West’s colonization of Ukraine will outweigh all their losses. Both economic and political. Therefore, Russia should also reconsider its further moves in the event that the West revises its agreements with Gazprom (acceptance at the Russian-Ukrainian border). Russia should reconsider the payment currency in response to this. Namely, switch to rubles when paying for gas and oil. This will hit the West's ambitions and their economy very hard.
  60. +1
    23 May 2014
    Send everyone, cut off the pipe to the edge. How does this work!? For my own mischief, I and p......s? Well, really!!! I got it, I’ll take a hacksaw and go cut off the pipe...
  61. +2
    23 May 2014
    Old woman Angela is sitting on a strong NSA douche, most likely, so she rushes back and forth. Can't jump off. The rabbit actually somehow even confidently croaked on TV, saying that let’s make a settlement point at the border. Even if so, then it is necessary to invest in the development of shale - and the country is bankrupt. This is where the mottrazzi will come to their aid with a bunch of dead presidents. But since the DPR is resisting, and it is there that the largest oil shale deposit is located (on the border with the Kharkov region), this is why they started a war. Most likely, after the elections there will be another Maidan or military coup in Kyiv, since Yula will not tolerate Shokorol.
  62. +1
    23 May 2014
    Yaytsenyukh has one more chance, albeit an insignificant one. Connect Yulya to the process. Maybe someone will take the bait. You never know. laughing

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/048/dozr77.jpg
  63. -1
    23 May 2014
    I think they’ve found a thread that Putin can pull; maybe it’s thin and frail, but it’s important. Let's say Putin's divorce on the eve of important events, in general, did not deceive anyone. The man simply took his family out of harm’s way, but the children remained, and you can’t divorce them. And we all know where Putin’s children are, if anyone thinks that the West will not resort to blackmail by threatening their safety, then this is clearly not the case. The question is what Putin is willing to give up and what he is not.
  64. Manul49
    +2
    23 May 2014
    I remembered one French. an expression applicable to Yaytsenyukh. Here is the translation: “You will open your mouth when I command. And not to speak!”
  65. 0
    23 May 2014
    we recognize the elections, we will lose Crimea and Putin will sharply fall below the baseboard in the eyes of the country
  66. Pitman
    0
    23 May 2014
    And Yaytsenyukh is a killer!!! He wants to sit down and eat a fish... But he wouldn’t go and jump on a garbage can!!! Oh, I wish I could turn off the valve for them......... am
  67. 0
    23 May 2014
    Both Merkel and (even!) Yatsenyuk make a proposal to Putin, as if they are playing the same tune - they are trying to dictate to Him what to do. But, according to popular wisdom, “don’t tell me what to do, and then I won’t tell you where to go.” Clients are eager to be “sent”...
  68. 0
    23 May 2014
    [quote=nika407] [quote]How many corpses and liters of Russian blood do we need for us to provide real support to the South-East?[/quote] And how many corpses and liters of blood of Russian citizens do we need for you to consider the help sufficient, dear fighter for the interests of the USA ?
  69. 52
    0
    23 May 2014
    Quote: Connecting Rod
    And Yaytsenyukh is a killer!!! He wants to sit down and eat a fish... But he wouldn’t go and jump on a garbage can!!! Oh, I wish I could turn off the valve for them......... am

    Yeah, that same valve is on its neck so that gas doesn’t get inside it! am
  70. Hare
    +1
    23 May 2014
    “After such a statement, which appeared in the world press, Yatsenyuk was inspired in Kyiv”
    this Eggsniffer is like the jackal from the cartoon about Mowgli...
  71. +1
    23 May 2014
    I don’t know about anyone, but sometimes I really want Putin to send Obama warm greetings and significant congratulations in the form of Voevoda missiles, and only then I believe all the insanity of the current world order would end. The American lobby is completely evil and the enemy of all humanity .
  72. +1
    23 May 2014
    Quite a lot of concessions have already been made to these goats, it’s time to stop this practice.
  73. Andreitch
    0
    23 May 2014
    No matter how trite it may sound, “cinema and the Germans!” wassat "
  74. Aleksandr68
    0
    23 May 2014
    Merkel is trying to sit on two chairs with one ass. Let either sanctions or “improvement of relations” be decided. And to intimidate Putin with NATO is at least stupid: when did dill become a de jure partner of NATO?; you can bargain on the elections: the legality of the Kiev elections for the legality of the south-eastern referendum. There’s nothing to say about the egg sniffer: lately he’s been looking more and more like a village fool
  75. +1
    23 May 2014
    Let them use tear gas instead of natural gas! Let them think before making such demands.
  76. Aleksandr68
    0
    23 May 2014
    Merkel is trying to sit on two chairs with one ass: let either sanctions or “improved relations” be decided. Threatening Putin about NATO is generally stupid. Since when did Ukraine become a de jure partner of NATO?; you can bargain about the legality of the elections: recognize in exchange for recognition of the south-eastern referendum. About There’s nothing to say about the egg sniffer - he’s looking more and more like a village fool
  77. +1
    23 May 2014
    when they calm down...
  78. 0
    23 May 2014
    Quote: Fanat1984
    Putin did everything in his power to conduct elections in Ukraine, withdrew troops from the border with Ukraine !!! The next day, pravoseki rushed to Lugansk ... And how to understand this? am

    What a good move to grind down the enemy’s personal strength in battles... The more Maidan soldiers die now, the fewer will be left for later... Donetsk and Lugansk seem to be coping well so far, not without losses, of course, but they’re coping.
  79. 0
    23 May 2014
    Simply put: money in the morning, chairs in the evening. The question has turned into a primitive swamp. If they don't want to pay, don't!
  80. Petlin
    +1
    23 May 2014
    Putin has leaked Novorossiya and will eventually get screwed. I wish shameful humiliation to him and all those who believed that the West would help in everything.
  81. Tanechka-clever
    0
    23 May 2014
    Yatsenyuk himself admitted that he is a temporary worker - and therefore he is a “hop-hop”. and after it at least a “blink-blink”
  82. 0
    23 May 2014
    The situation is elementary. Frau “gives consent” to Ukraine (and in the West, besides “frau” to steal gas, who else can give more consent). Further - RUSSIA says more - how much they paid and received, and not a penny more, They will sit for one year (or maybe less) on gas reserves in storage facilities.
    And then the “northern fox” and an apology to its people, because the “mattress makers” will not make the price of their LNG lower than the Russian price in 1=3 years.
  83. 0
    23 May 2014
    Don’t they want an Iskander in the anus and a mace in the sucking hole? But you have to!
  84. +1
    23 May 2014
    If Putin is draining the South-East, I wish him to burn in hell brighter than Bandera. It is impossible to imagine a greater betrayal. God grant that this is not so. But something somehow works out this way. Then he is worse than Gorbachev.
  85. 0
    23 May 2014
    The future of Ukraine ....
    I would like to recall one funny episode that happened at a meeting between Vladimir Putin and German businessmen. “You don’t want gas, you don’t develop nuclear energy, and what, you will, heat wood?” We also need to go to Siberia for firewood. You see, you don’t even have firewood, ”the Russian leader joked to the loud laughter of German businessmen in November 2010 ...
  86. 0
    23 May 2014
    Shouldn't Mr. Yatsenyuk and Merkel suck my carrot????
  87. Gl00mDaem0n
    0
    23 May 2014
    Nobody writes a fairly obvious thing... The idea of ​​selling Russian gas to Europe on the border of Russia and Ukraine will allow Ukraine to purchase gas uncontrollably at a lower European price and Russia will not be able to control this process. And illegal reverse deliveries will no longer be needed, because... gas can be taken along the way!!!
  88. Polarfox
    0
    24 May 2014
    I believe that Vladimir Vladimirovich will have a comprehensive answer to Frau Merkel’s BDSM flirtations. The game was not played in order to lose everything in the end. As for Yatsenyuk, the considerations of this, if I may say so, economist, are simple. How else to profit at the expense of others (if not Russia, then Europe or the States) and at the same time avoid flogging. The upcoming lack of gas in Ukraine makes flogging very likely and close, and from their own jumping loyal subjects. So he twists the acting like a snake on a pitchfork.
  89. 0
    24 May 2014
    But it’s realistic how long you can lend gas. It’s realistic to take it and freak out. Shut down the gas altogether and don’t open it until the debts are paid off. Europe doesn’t do anything to get paid. Europe stupidly nods at us and says that we have obligations. Guys. If you are ready to throw such money into debt for an insolvent half-state, then for God’s sake. Why do we always honor all contracts, and these stupid people have been pretending to be an unfucked woman for 20 years, they are stupidly fucking the brain! It’s so angry.
  90. 0
    24 May 2014
    There is only one answer to this nonsense - let's go to.x.er!
    Everything has been clear with this little brain for a long time. But here's Merkel! I thought she was smarter.
    Let her be glad that they are still talking to her.
  91. 0
    24 May 2014
    Quote: Wellych
    There is a lot of pathos, little help, it’s a pity that Putin is not enough Putin, with the current support of the people, the whole west would turn into a Weimar republic within two or three years.

    a very controversial point of view .. now nothing is being done in one sitting
  92. 0
    24 May 2014
    Merkel has once again exposed herself as a US bastard and missed a historic chance to support Russia and free Germany from the influence of the mattress makers.
  93. 0
    24 May 2014
    Hmmm...We'll see.
  94. Vlad1408
    0
    24 May 2014
    It seems that Merkel did not understand well that threatening Russia even with hints is not productive.
  95. 0
    24 May 2014
    bomb Kyiv under the very Euro fackington
  96. shitovmg
    0
    24 May 2014
    In 68, 24 Antey (An-22) passed over us (southern Novorossiya) towards Czechoslovakia. You should have seen what it was... There was no escort, just an exercise after the troops were brought in. If you saw this, you'd go crazy... They showed the power of the country... I saw it, and I'M PROUD... Ours will always be yours (for friends) GDP!
  97. 0
    24 May 2014
    The Chancellor still didn’t understand anything... There will be no stability in Krajina after these parody elections! The Maydowns poisoned the minds of people and weaned them off work. It’s easier to do exercises and jump, jump, jump with wild screams...
  98. raf
    0
    25 May 2014
    If they do, then do they consider the Russian president as such? There is no need to build relations with Russia in the language of an ultimatum! When will the gay European fools wise up???
  99. Opanas Abramych
    0
    25 May 2014
    Will the haberdasher and the cardinal save France?
  100. philip
    0
    25 May 2014
    it's a pity that Putin is not enough Putin

    I wouldn't want to be in his place in this situation. The situation is not simple.

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