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The detention of the crew of the TV channel “LifeNews” is and will be continued, which will hit very hard both in the EU and in the SBU. This concerns MANPADS.

“Half-Specialists” of the Ukrainian Security Service of Ukraine showed too close up a product number, it’s easy to identify history products and place of manufacture. And here the most interesting begins.

As reported by Polish journalists, MANPADS manufactured in Poland according to "stolen" technology from Russia. Then a bit modernized complex.

Question one: who gave Poland the right to make such MANPADS? Then this MANPADS was sold to Georgia, among others, which were used during the military aggression of Tbilisi against South Ossetia.

Question two: on what basis and by whose permission was a counterfeit sold to another state? This is not a pirated DVD. Such sales are controlled at the UN level.

Question three: how and on what basis did these illegal MANPADS come to Ukraine? It turns out that in Georgia there is absolutely no control over the accounting and storage of weapons, and in Ukraine there is absolutely no border service, which is obliged to stop smuggling weaponsincluding the importation of these weapons.

I think that soon all the above questions will be voiced at different levels of international organizations, although I doubt that they will be answered.
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  1. +30
    24 May 2014
    , so you need it, for your brainlessness, and for sale by the nails ...
    1. +58
      24 May 2014
      You may not even know to what extent the Poles are an unscrupulous people. They are trying to consider themselves cunning, but in reality stupid and arrogant.
      In the sphere in which I earn my daily bread against the Poles for a long time unspoken "sanctions", after 2005, very tough, when their embassy insolently threw the cantor, there is nothing to do with them without 100% prepayment.
      1. +18
        24 May 2014
        And also cowards ...
        1. 0
          24 May 2014
          Quote: Kuvabatake
          And also cowards ...

          But this is in vain. World War II showed - they are anyone, but not cowards.
          1. avg
            +11
            24 May 2014
            The detention of the crew of the TV channel “LifeNews” is and will be continued, which will hit very hard both in the EU and in the SBU. This concerns MANPADS.

            Unfortunately, there will be no sequel. The entire former "Warsaw Pact" sells Soviet equipment, and our rare demarches are like water off a duck's back. As for the SBU, they have perked up so many moronic provocations that they themselves are already confused. Plus, performers and leaders change like gloves. Now the president will be a new "spotless" request
            1. +6
              24 May 2014
              Quote: avg
              Unfortunately, there will be no continuation

              it definitely won’t be. If the UN already denies that Ukraine used UN helicopters, then they will keep silent about MANPADS
            2. +4
              24 May 2014
              Unfortunately, there will be no sequel. The entire former "Warsaw Pact" trades in Soviet technology
              Bulgarians rivet Kalashnikovs without any licenses and remorse. Che do not clone mattress weapons, except for China
            3. +5
              24 May 2014
              The half-successes of the Ukrainian Security Service of Ukraine showed the product number too close-up, it is easy to determine the history of the product and the place of manufacture from it.

              It seems that the current SBU officers were trained in the same way as the national guard, a week or two.
              1. 0
                26 May 2014
                Quote: Duke
                the current SBU officers were trained in the same way as the national guard, a week or two.
                I agree with you. And what is this third character in the photo? Hands are not tied, sitting on the master's, and a striped T-shirt. Is this the third detainee? The driver of the car in the trunk of which was MANPADS? Perhaps this is an agent provocateur of the SBU.
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            4. necha265
              0
              26 May 2014
              All chocolaty and fluffy! fellow
            5. +1
              26 May 2014
              Now the president will be a new "spotless"
              ..... Not for long ...
              1. PAM
                0
                27 May 2014
                quite a while already tarnished and not a day has passed!
            6. PAM
              +2
              26 May 2014
              until we begin to punish with the ruble, nothing will change. Unfortunately, our state badly defends the interests of our design bureaus, enterprises in terms of intellectual property, copyright and control of "clones" produced abroad. And so to sue and squeeze the property, or at least arrest the accounts. Look, the states as defend the interests of their industry and on ... er there they will always find a loophole.
            7. GRANATE-19
              0
              26 May 2014
              Quote: avg
              Now the president will be a new "spotless"

              UNTIL "SPOTLESS" WHILE! ...
              And TIME RUNS - FAST ...
              Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
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          2. +8
            24 May 2014
            But, in general, in vain the minuses were put in a fit of enthusiasm. Remember the story - about Smolensk, False Dmitry, Moscow. From recent history - the campaign of Tukhachevsky and Stalin to Warsaw. Westerplatte, or like poles with sabers naked on German pearl tanks during World War II.
            Although bastardism in the behavior of the Poles is enough, it is desirable, nevertheless, to maintain objectivity. You can recall, for example, half a million Poles who fought in the ranks of the Wehrmacht against the USSR. Or, having betrayed the memory of 80 thousand Poles carved by Bandera in Volyn during the war, enthusiastically prepared modern Bandera fighters on their territory with American money.
            1. GRANATE-19
              +2
              26 May 2014
              Quote: Blondy
              Although bastardism in the behavior of the Poles is enough, it is desirable, nevertheless, to maintain objectivity.

              If the apple is wormy, then it is wormy!
              I mean, if possible, the government of such a country will do dirty tricks and one by one for now
              a seasoned blow will not stop this impudence, stupidity, greed, cowardly dirty tricks and so on ...
              This does not apply to the Polish people, but only to a primitively dirty government.
              Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
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          3. +5
            24 May 2014
            But this is in vain. The Second World War showed - they are anyone, but not cowards. [/ Quote]
            I apologize, but in addition to the film about the dog and the tank crews, which I absorbed from childhood, I did not hear something that the Poles are great warriors !!!!!!!
            I've watched the movie "The Flood" and there are also some filmed based on G. Senkevich - great films, well, judging by the way they fought before, they are cowardly !!!!!
            although filmed like the Poles! I was even surprised !!
            1. 0
              26 May 2014
              I generally can’t stand the Poles, but I need to be objective: according to the results of the 20th century, they cannot be blamed for cowardice, and they fought very well.
              1. yur
                yur
                +2
                26 May 2014
                Quote: Tiamat2702
                but one must be objective: according to the results of the 20th century, they cannot be blamed for cowardice, and they fought very well.
                If a country is constantly trying to "lie down" under someone (they tried to be friends with the Germans, then under the USSR, now under the USA), then this means that there are not enough heroes there.
                1. GRANATE-19
                  0
                  26 May 2014
                  Quote: yur
                  it means that there are still not enough heroes there.

                  They are, but the question is - are there heroes ?!
                  Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
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          4. 0
            26 May 2014
            traitors, fascists, punishers, policemen ... anyone but cowards, yeah ...
            in fairness: remember the Anders army, which, however, refused to fight on the fronts in the USSR and quietly escaped to Iran and then to Palestine, from where they all went to fight (Italy Monte Cassino monastery) paving the way for the British with their Pshek corpses, which epics so far (I don’t understand everything: national identity, there is propaganda, a prostitute .. oh, this is not from this opera ... but still in June 42 was VERY necessary, they still remembered Lubyanka Siberia, etc. )

            On the other hand, Doher Pshekov was in the ranks of the KA and they still took Berlin with us, huh ...
            1. +3
              26 May 2014
              AK - this is the army of Craiova, shot in the back of our soldiers. Obeyed the emigrant government in London. They were not in Berlin.
              AL is the army of Ludov, formed on our territory from Polish patriots.
              1. Edward
                0
                26 May 2014
                I remember in Soviet childhood I read a book about AL. I remember that I liked it. now you’ll hardly find her
          5. +3
            26 May 2014
            they are not cowards, they are like a prostitute cheap, not yours, not ours. They fought the second with banderlogs, and now they only help us to spoil them. And who are they after that
          6. +4
            26 May 2014
            Quote: Eragon
            But this is in vain. World War II showed - they are anyone, but not cowards.

            Not cowards, but big lovers of someone else's "help" and riding to Paradise on someone else's hump. Poland is the most disgusting country in the world. IMHO. With respect.
          7. Bormental
            +1
            26 May 2014
            Just the 2nd World War showed all the cowardice and meanness of the Polish elite, who scrambled ahead of their own screeching. I recommend reading "Anti-Russian meanness" by Yuri Mukhin.
        2. +4
          24 May 2014
          Quote: Kuvabatake
          And also cowards ...

          And they are also trying to tear money from Russia, for the Polish cowardly officers who were shot by the Germans in September 1941.

        3. 0
          24 May 2014
          were and will be political prostitutes .....
          1. 0
            26 May 2014
            Quote: kostik1301
            were and will be political prostitutes ..

            I think excessive politicization is inappropriate here - just prostitutes. With respect.
      2. +22
        24 May 2014
        Moreover, even Poles born and raised in Russia.
        I have a good friend, he thinks he is a Pole))
        This is something! When it comes to the discussion of the Poles, the main argument in the dispute is that he is free as the wind, he is in the field and with a saber, and you are Russian slaves inside you have the Tsar and we have an ancient democracy (does not resemble anything ??).
        Moreover, he is a very good person if you do not conduct joint affairs)))
        Thanks to him, I perceive Polish chauvinism as the eccentricity that is imposed on them by their understanding of the history of Poland - a complex of sacrifice.
        When you remind him of the film 4 tankers and the dog he immediately blown away and admits that it is better this is the friendship of the Poles with the Russians)))
        1. +17
          24 May 2014
          So all these show-offs in Ukraine are from Poland. The word "mosk a l" is not of Ukrainian origin, but of Polish. On the territory of present-day Ukraine, if they wanted to emphasize that a person from the Grand Duchy of Moscow, they used to say "Muscovite", Poles - "m o s k al." There is no negativity here - just a citizen of the Moscow principality. And themselves and all those who speak the same language were called Russians living in Ukraine, or rather, Russian. But the Poles considered themselves better than all Russians, all the more better than those living in the Moscow principality, and then the kingdom.
          Galicia, being a long time under Poland and Austria-Hungary, took precisely this Polish neglect of the Russians.
          As for democracy, Poland in the Middle Ages was a noble democracy elevated to an absolute. One of the members of the Seimas said: we will not allow! "- and no decision can be made. This is what put an end to the existence of Poland and led to its partition. A parallel can also be drawn in relation to Ukraine in the 21st century.
          Now the Poles are very upset that Moscow, and not Krakow or Warsaw, became the center of the creation of the great Slavic state. Indeed, at the beginning of the 16 century, the Commonwealth was much richer and stronger than the Grand Duchy of Moscow, and in one of the parts of the Speech, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, there were twice as many Russians as in Moscow.
          These are the lessons of history.
          1. 0
            24 May 2014
            So all these show-offs in Ukraine are from Poland.
            Oh don't tell !! There du.ri always had enough
        2. +2
          24 May 2014
          Moreover, even Poles born and raised in Russia.
          A distant relative of his wife complained that he was a Pole. He has been living in polyands for more than 20 years, and everyone considers him to be Russian.
          1. Edward
            0
            26 May 2014
            people know better from the outside - blood does not always make itself felt.
        3. I am also a Pole by nationality. So what?
          I am a citizen of Russia, I gave 12 to our army for years and I don’t have anything against the Russians, but I’m very much against the Poles from Poland when they slander my homeland.

          And now there is a feeling (after comments) that I am a coward, pshek, an inferior citizen and in Russia is not needed.
          1. +1
            26 May 2014
            The explanation is simple: formally - Pole, in fact - Russian ...
          2. +1
            26 May 2014
            Quote: Salavat EMERCOM
            And now there is a feeling (after comments) that I am a coward, pshek, an inferior citizen and in Russia is not needed.

            Bad, so you have a Pole, some part of Pshek is!
            Seriously, then _
            You cannot insult someone who is not.

            You
            Quote: Salavat EMERCOM
            coward, pshek, defective citizen and in Russia is not needed

            I don’t think so, what kind of ... pay attention to idle breaches, and also write
            Quote: Salavat EMERCOM
            gave our army 12 years

          3. Edward
            +1
            26 May 2014
            in Ukraine, 86% of the population consider Russian my native.
            not all comments are adequate. never mind :)
          4. yur
            yur
            +1
            26 May 2014
            Quote: Salavat EMERCOM
            And now there is a feeling (after
            You are a RUSSIAN Pole and Russia needs you. hi
        4. 0
          26 May 2014
          He does not have Polish psychology, but gentry.
          For them, their own people are slaves.
        5. Edward
          0
          26 May 2014
          copy current Ukrainians
        6. GRANATE-19
          0
          26 May 2014
          Quote: Saratovets
          Moreover, even Poles born and raised in Russia.
          I have a good friend, he thinks he is a Pole))
          This is something! When it comes to the discussion of the Poles, the main argument in the dispute is that he is free as the wind, he is in the field and with a saber, and you are Russian slaves inside you have the Tsar and we have an ancient democracy (does not resemble anything ??).
          Moreover, he is a very good person if you do not conduct joint affairs)))
          Thanks to him, I perceive Polish chauvinism as the eccentricity that is imposed on them by their understanding of the history of Poland - a complex of sacrifice.
          When you remind him of the film 4 tankers and the dog he immediately blown away and admits that it is better this is the friendship of the Poles with the Russians)))

          How well your example describes the character of the Poles!
          All the same, life is life and its example cannot be faked
          and you won’t change it!
          You drew a line with your story.
          Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
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      3. +17
        24 May 2014
        Therefore, they pay Gazprom for gas the most, if I am not mistaken, 525,5 $. Ponte pay.
        1. +9
          24 May 2014
          And they will pay for the show-offs and 1000, for the evil of Russia! laughing
      4. 0
        24 May 2014
        You may not even know to what extent the Poles are an unscrupulous people. They are trying to consider themselves cunning, but in reality stupid and arrogant.
        most corrupt. Somehow, one tried to sell me some kind of h.r.e., surprised by his lamentations that he could not stand the Germans, making excuses for the German numbers in his car.
      5. +2
        24 May 2014
        Quote: Humpty
        They try to consider themselves cunning, but in reality stupid and arrogant.

        And they practically prepared this operation in a hurry, which was something tossed ............ brains were not enough to lose the consequences.
      6. +1
        24 May 2014
        How is it that we do not know, but western Ukraine, whose relatives? Have seen enough and heard a damn ...
      7. +2
        26 May 2014
        The Poles betrayed Slavs when they adopted Catholicism and they developed an inferiority complex, and it seems like they renounced the Slavs and fell under Europe and all are not rushing
        1. GRANATE-19
          0
          26 May 2014
          Quote: demon184
          The Poles betrayed Slavs when they adopted Catholicism and they developed an inferiority complex, and it seems like they renounced the Slavs and fell under Europe and all are not rushing

          Judas also has "no pearl" ...
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      8. +3
        26 May 2014
        One trucker told me.
        We stood in the parking lot in Poland. Nearby stood a Pole. Well, they invited me into the cabin to the table, fed, watered ...
        We drank well, got up in the morning, a hangover is understandable, but we must go. Wound up and started off. And the Pole who drank with them called the police and handed them over that the Russian carriers were coming from a hangover. The police slowed down everyone (there were several cars). The Pole poked a finger at them. The police then did not let them go for 15 minutes, giving the Pole away to go along the highway.
        Ours were then ready to break it. Not caught up.
        These are psheki
        1. GRANATE-19
          0
          26 May 2014
          Quote: Consul-t
          Ours were then ready to break it. They didn’t catch up.

          I say - Judah ...
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    2. +9
      24 May 2014
      and this is how everything is scorching
    3. VAF
      VAF
      +1
      24 May 2014
      Quote: mig31
      for brainlessness


      The fact that this is a "poorly directed and ugly set and executed hat" .. this is understandable even for a child, but the problem is that all "our partners" wassat represented by the UN, PACE, OSCE ... they didn’t even get out of infancy ..... the only thing is that the car is 10 and they carried a 2-meter MANPADS in the trunk .. it's like belay

      I was frankly immediately embarrassed by another thing. As soon as they started showing these footage ... there were three detainees ... our ... with a wing into the ground ... our arms were twisted back with our knees, and on the edge this check ... in a striped one (I almost said. . in a bathing suit, as in Lanovoy in the Striped flight "so neatly stand on your knees. And just keeps your handles in front of your head.
      In the photo, he’s generally our farts behind his back in bracelets. And this one .... on a bench, lounging, arms to one side .. there isn’t enough beer and seeds ... to complete the picture.
      people who will explain, "sho STE for people"? maybe the decoy who lured our reporters? recourse
    4. 0
      25 May 2014
      Yes, the Poles are a complete tryndets, even W. Churchill (who threw them) compared them with a hyena
      1. 0
        26 May 2014
        As far back as 1938, the Polish government suggested Hitler to attack the USSR.
    5. GRANATE-19
      0
      26 May 2014
      Quote: mig31
      , so you need it, for your brainlessness, and for sale by the nails ...

      Andriy looked around: before him Taras! He shook his whole body and suddenly became pale ...
      In an instant, Andrii’s anger disappeared, no matter how it happened at all. And he saw before him only a terrible father.
      “Well, what are we going to do now?” - said Taras, looking directly at him
      eyes.
      But Andriy did not know anything to say, and stood with his eyes downcast in the ground.
      - What, son, did your Poles help you?
      Andriy was unrequited.
      - So sell it? sell faith? sell your? Wait, get off the horse!
      Submissively, like a child, he got down from his horse and stopped neither dead nor alive.
      in front of Taras. "


      More details: http://karelinform.ru/article/politics/41118/pomogli_lyahi#ixzz32qWKrQCQ
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  2. zavesa01
    +10
    24 May 2014
    As always they say the facts are rigged. I'm not me and not my hut.
    1. +9
      24 May 2014
      They will steal, supposedly, stolen many years ago from burnt out warehouses.
      The perpetrators are punished. And nobody was selling anything. "They will understand."
      Old songs about the main thing - X!
      1. +6
        24 May 2014
        So we need to land an Il 76 with MANPADS and RPGs in Lugansk in an emergency! Accident, what can we do, and the "separatists", the dogs, took them away! request
    2. +4
      24 May 2014
      they say otherwise, the GRU captured MANPADS as a trophy in 08 and has now provoked
    3. 0
      24 May 2014
      Quote: zavesa01
      As always they say the facts are rigged. I'm not me and not my hut.

      They can always say that this complex was seized by the RA in 2008 and to blame everything on us.
  3. +7
    24 May 2014
    They will fall off again, and the Americans will cover them again.
    1. GRANATE-19
      +1
      26 May 2014
      Quote: ALEX74
      They will fall off again, and the Americans will cover them again.

      Yes, they will not care
      do not care what they will cover-STAND ON YOUR RESEARCH RESULTS AND ALL THERE! And to trump the truth in all newspapers, on all channels and in all forums, to connect world famous people to this and to spread and spread the TRUTH WORLDWIDE! IT CANNOT BE THAT DOESN'T GET TO SOBER MINDS IF SUCH REMAINING IN THE WORLD!
      Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
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  4. +8
    24 May 2014
    Pans burned
  5. +4
    24 May 2014
    Answers to questions will be found if GDP is more insistently asking! Just palm off simple switchmen as the guilty! In any case, flogging is more tough to act against the West !!! good
  6. +4
    24 May 2014
    Yes, everything is clear. Feel under the wing of the United States, that's impudent in full. But no matter how much the rope does not twist, the end will still be.
  7. +7
    24 May 2014
    And I think that everything needs to be done not SO! In the end, we, a self-sufficient country, and if they steal from us, then thieves must be punished. We figure it out ourselves and punish ourselves. Well, for example, raise the price of gas per hundred square meters, or something else, you never know leverage. And what, our gas, we ourselves want to burn, we want to trade. But you don’t need to coo about the fact that simple and not innocent people will suffer from these cases. They are simply not there.
  8. philip
    +7
    24 May 2014
    [Quote]
    I think that soon all the above questions will be voiced at different levels of international organizations, although I doubt that they will be answered.
    [Quote
    And I have no doubt. There will be no answers. In today's world there is one right - the right of the strong. And the mission of RUSSIA is the right to cancel.
  9. +14
    24 May 2014
    How lovely! Now you need to use this material to 100%. And not only about the stolen technology and the sale of weapons, but also about the fact that these weapons are presented as Russian!
    1. +4
      24 May 2014
      Quote: Egoza
      How lovely! Now you need to use this material to 100%. And not only about the stolen technology and the sale of weapons, but also about the fact that these weapons are presented as Russian!


      Such a thing cannot be left unpunished. These are not fake perfumes and cognac.
      Invite Polish representatives to Smolensk for an explanation.
      1. +1
        24 May 2014
        Quote: Humpty
        Invite Polish representatives to Smolensk for an explanation.


        Together with the Ukrainian fascist shobla.
        1. +2
          24 May 2014
          Quote: alexneg
          Quote: Humpty
          Invite Polish representatives to Smolensk for an explanation.


          Together with the Ukrainian fascist shobla.

          On a fig to us in Smolensk their fascist shobla? No, it's better. We are to them and not with counterfeit ...
          1. +6
            24 May 2014
            PENZYAC SU Today, 12:59 PM ↑

            In the Smolensk region, as you know, the descendants of Susanin live.
            1. yur
              yur
              +2
              26 May 2014
              Quote: Humpty
              In the Smolensk region, as you know, the descendants of Susanin live.
              A plus. But, actually, the descendants of Susanin should live in the Kostroma region. laughing
        2. +1
          24 May 2014
          Together with the Ukrainian fascist shobla.
          But these do not need to be called to our territory, if they come to the Russian Federation, then only under guard and in court
          1. GRANATE-19
            0
            26 May 2014
            Quote: jktu66
            But these do not need to be called to our territory, if they come to the Russian Federation, then only under guard and in court

            In the North Caucasian District Military Court in Rostov-on-Don.
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      2. +1
        24 May 2014
        Quote: Humpty
        Quote: Egoza
        How lovely! Now you need to use this material to 100%. And not only about the stolen technology and the sale of weapons, but also about the fact that these weapons are presented as Russian!


        Such a thing cannot be left unpunished. These are not fake perfumes and cognac.
        Invite Polish representatives to Smolensk for an explanation.

        It’s better not to Smolensk, but to Smolenskaya ...
    2. +3
      24 May 2014
      We must not forget that during the events of 08.08, the Russian Armed Forces captured a huge amount of weapons of the escaping Georgian army. How not to get a boomerang effect with similar charges
      1. +1
        24 May 2014
        Quote: Lunic
        We must not forget that during the events of 08.08, the Russian Armed Forces captured a huge amount of weapons of the escaping Georgian army. How not to get a boomerang effect with similar charges

        I agree with this, and with the fact that the "psheki" people are still something ...
      2. +8
        24 May 2014
        Quote: Lunic
        We must not forget that during the events of 08.08, the Russian Armed Forces captured a huge amount of weapons of the escaping Georgian army. How not to get a boomerang effect with similar charges

        I won’t be surprised if:

        As "experts"laughing
        will invite Polish "semi-specialists" good(definition liked)
        who will establish that belay
        number on MANPADS engraved in Putin's handwriting! wassat
        1. +2
          24 May 2014
          As "expert" laughing

          Xpert - Specialist in X (X) scientist
          Expert-Specialist in Exam (Expropriation)
          lol The difference in scientific approaches is obvious.
          And all over the place ... expert community.
  10. +2
    24 May 2014
    If you take it well, you can promote not a bad deal, three countries belonging to us are rude in the batch.
  11. 0
    24 May 2014
    Dummies hastened to curry favor and at least show someone on the video) And then every day they caught the FSB generals, but they were so secret that they couldn’t even be photographed)) Curious ... I wonder when old Obama will endure the tricks of his creation in the barracks?
  12. +2
    24 May 2014
    Caught, burnt, stuck, flew well, where are the brains then, aaaaaaa !!!!
  13. 0
    24 May 2014
    Quote: Humpty
    Quote: Egoza
    How lovely! Now you need to use this material to 100%. And not only about the stolen technology and the sale of weapons, but also about the fact that these weapons are presented as Russian!


    Such a thing cannot be left unpunished. These are not fake perfumes and cognac.
    Invite Polish representatives to Smolensk for an explanation.

    Yeah, right to the place where the plane crashed! Yes
    1. yur
      yur
      0
      26 May 2014
      Quote: kot28.ru
      Yeah, right to the place where the plane crashed!
      Not "to that place", but to THAT place. laughing
  14. Vova
    -8
    24 May 2014
    Who cares what kind of MANPADS it is, Polish, Georgian, French, maybe even Soviet. What is the difference counterfeit, real, self-made, riveted in the garage on the knee. Do not deviate from the topic. How did he end up in the same car with reporters?
    1. +5
      24 May 2014
      Quote: Vova
      Who cares what kind of MANPADS it is, Polish, Georgian, French, maybe even Soviet. What is the difference counterfeit, real, self-made, riveted in the garage on the knee. Do not deviate from the topic. How did he end up in the same car with reporters?

      How-to, tossed!
    2. +3
      24 May 2014
      Quote: Vova
      How did he end up in the same car with reporters?

      And who said that he was there?
      Those who delayed?
      Yeah.
      Are there any prints ?!
      It would be very strange if they were not there! Or statements that they are there!

      Well, you are just like a child.
      Everything is at the level of _ I believe, I do not believe. And reasoning about where and why ...
      You know how they said in due time _ Do not know we will teach, do not want to force!
      wink
    3. +1
      25 May 2014
      End justifies the means! With such an irrepressible desire for dill, in the trunk they could find the rifle from which Kennedy was shot!
    4. 0
      26 May 2014
      And how do drugs end up in a car or in a citizen’s pocket if he didn’t put them there?
  15. +3
    24 May 2014
    Quote: Nagan
    Pans burned

    Even as they burned! It is a sin to steal.
  16. +1
    24 May 2014
    Let’s see how our Midovites unleash the situation around the PZRK — we must cling to each episode in mind and promote Europe to sanction against the Psheks and Georgians.
  17. +1
    24 May 2014
    yes - SBUshniki, too, specialists
  18. 0
    24 May 2014
    Yes, the Poles rivet any murder weapon, if only it would shoot towards Russia ...
    1. 0
      26 May 2014
      this is true!
  19. +1
    24 May 2014
    Quote: Serg 7281
    in Georgia there is absolutely no control over the accounting and storage of weapons, and in Ukraine there is absolutely no border service

    On the contrary, I’m more than sure that the opposite is true!
    PolandA> Georgia> Ukraine and everything at the interstate level. Informal but interstate!
  20. 0
    24 May 2014
    All this blatant lie pouring from the lips of Turchinov and others like that, only thanks to the support of the USA. They have lost a human face. There is nothing to talk about with them. And our President is doing the right thing, having nothing to do with them. And with regards to MANPADS - everything will be launched on the brakes. Case is hushed up.
  21. +1
    24 May 2014
    Yes, these MANPADS should poke "our Western partners" in the face at all possible events. Until full awareness, and enlightenment in the brain.
    AND! and helicopters with UN coloring ...
    1. 0
      24 May 2014
      Quote: Jovanni
      Yes, these MANPADS should poke "our Western partners" in the face at all possible events.

      Why in the face? Muzzle in SHIT, their favorite ...
  22. +1
    24 May 2014
    For a long time they did not fly to Smolensk ...
  23. vtur
    +1
    24 May 2014
    Quote: Saratovets

    When you remind him of the film 4 tankers and the dog he immediately blown away and admits that it is better this is the friendship of the Poles with the Russians)))

    How can you draw any conclusions on the basis of a children's series (by the way, quite good for its time)? The Poles fought not only on the eastern front (where the Polish Army was pretty diluted by the officers of the Red Army with Ukrainian-Polish surnames - this is shown in the series), but also took part in the Battle of England (the future American ass "Gabby" Gabreski was actually trained by the Poles) and in Italy (in the area of ​​Monte Cassino there were bloody battles) ... I deliberately omitted the theme of 1939 so as not to provoke the public ...
    1. Shaki's memory
      0
      25 May 2014
      That's just about Monte Cassino can’t get drunk .. Read carefully how it was .. The Poles entered the position of the Fritz after they left after the bloody bath arranged by him NOT by the Poles !!!!
  24. Anrie
    +2
    24 May 2014
    The last 25 years, after the victory of the ideology of world democracy, have been too "calm". Everything seemed to be honest and noble, well, except for the minor costs with the Balkans, Iraq ... but an abscess will always break through. Now more and more facts are being revealed that are no longer possible not only to hide, but even simply to bring a reasonable justification for them. The stage of the collapse of the "democratic-capitalist" American-West European world order and Western civilization began in history.
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  26. +1
    24 May 2014
    Quote: andj61
    So all these show-offs in Ukraine are from Poland. The word "mosk a l" is not of Ukrainian origin, but of Polish. On the territory of present-day Ukraine, if they wanted to emphasize that a person from the Grand Duchy of Moscow, they used to say "Muscovite", Poles - "m o s k al." There is no negativity here - just a citizen of the Moscow principality. And themselves and all those who speak the same language were called Russians living in Ukraine, or rather, Russian. But the Poles considered themselves better than all Russians, all the more better than those living in the Moscow principality, and then the kingdom.
    Galicia, being a long time under Poland and Austria-Hungary, took precisely this Polish neglect of the Russians.
    As for democracy, Poland in the Middle Ages was a noble democracy elevated to an absolute. One of the members of the Seimas said: we will not allow! "- and no decision can be made. This is what put an end to the existence of Poland and led to its partition. A parallel can also be drawn in relation to Ukraine in the 21st century.
    Now the Poles are very upset that Moscow, and not Krakow or Warsaw, became the center of the creation of the great Slavic state. Indeed, at the beginning of the 16 century, the Commonwealth was much richer and stronger than the Grand Duchy of Moscow, and in one of the parts of the Speech, the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, there were twice as many Russians as in Moscow.
    These are the lessons of history.

    The word mosk and l is just Ukrainian, as the soldiers in Little Russia were called under the tsar-father. It comes from the Ukrainian mosque - to shave. All the soldiers, especially the recruits, were shaved. Therefore, they were called so - mosk and l and. We had a very good Ukrainian teacher at one time, and she explained this back in the 70s. This is also in the works of Shevchenko, especially in prose. There are even lines of poetry of him - ... and his brother was taken to moscow and to the army. In Soviet and post-Soviet times it came from the Bandera, where the Red Army - m about with k and l and on "their language" - pressed this trash.
  27. 0
    24 May 2014
    Yes, it seems to me that they won’t even hear the question. Or they pretend not to hear. So here it’s just for history to register who participated in the first Ukrainian war.
  28. +2
    24 May 2014
    I think that soon all the above issues will be voiced at different levels of international organizations

    Nothing will be voiced, because they have already voiced during the detention of journalists, and even more so to understand this. This legal chaos on the part of the West will continue until Russia and its allies create alternative organizations similar to the International Tribunal and a force bloc such as NATO.
  29. +3
    24 May 2014
    Russia was in a hurry to set up production of "Igla" in Poland .. nobody stole anything there, everything was at the official level. Graduated in 2004. "Thunder" in my memory .. It does not justify not clean businessmen.
  30. +1
    24 May 2014
    On the internet there are footage of our TV channel from 'yatiya manned anti-aircraft missile systems of the Georgian troops during the war 08.08.08 with the same numbers
  31. 0
    24 May 2014
    I don’t perceive Ukraine as a rightful state at this given country, just finished idiots may not see the obvious west in a hurry to create full house and lawlessness there, and they prepare the ground for this, then they’ll remove all these weapons it will take years, and all the neglect to catch decades. We see how they are trying to immerse Russia in my homeland, and Ukraine is the most optimum place for dying, the chronicle is transparent and so far!
  32. +9
    24 May 2014
    Yes, the Poles have already investigated ... The numbers brought the weapons that our troops seized in Georgia, I don’t want to go to their site now ...... They have something else there - THUNDER is really issued illegally, and now there will be problems, they so angry with Ukrainians ...

    I have another question - how did two 170 centimeter pipes with a diameter of 20 cm each, even wrapped in a blanket, be crammed into the trunk .... The second question is why ... Did the driver participate in this provocation? Or maybe the young guys got the blood of adventurism, they asked me to let you in, they would not inspect you?

    We can only guess now - judging by the stubbornness of the SBU, they have something specific, but the State Department and the OSCE also refused.

    I would advise the militias to capture an American journalist and show in close-up how three Stingers, two M-60 machine guns, 10 M-16 rifles, a space communications station, and a 130 mm howitzer are unhooked from the towbar ... And all this with honest and innocent eyes, a lot of witnesses .. Yes, among the documents, a CIA certificate and photographs in American uniform against the background of burning Baghdad .....
    1. +2
      24 May 2014
      Quote: Santor
      I would advise the militias to capture an American journalist and show in close-up how three Stingers, two M-60 machine guns, 10 M-16 rifles, a space communications station, and a 130 mm howitzer are unhooked from the towbar ... And all this with honest and innocent eyes, a lot of witnesses .. Yes, among the documents, a CIA certificate and photographs in American uniform against the background of burning Baghdad .....


      Right! Moreover, to show that all this comes from the trunk of one car. At the same time, to the question, how could it all fit? - honestly answer: Fuck knows, but it was all there!
  33. +1
    24 May 2014
    If anyone wants to provide real assistance to the Army of the Southeast, here is the link there you will see everything + a receipt for the transfer. Http://anna-news.info/node/16288, http://veche-info.ru/images/stories/kvitanciya_samooborona. pdf ---------- this is a receipt. It is necessary to soak the boys manenko.
  34. 0
    24 May 2014
    On the thief and the hat burns.
  35. +1
    24 May 2014
    Psheks are still stupid people. They don’t even learn from their mistakes. Already flatter with pleasure when the West approvingly pats them on the shoulder after another Russophobic muck.
    But the West, giving them "indestructible guarantees", has never (!!!) helped them. These guarantees always ended in failure for the Polish non-state.
    Examples? There are many of them. The audience is literate, it makes no sense to repeat.
    So, clairvoyant, in orderly rows, poetically, and with a song, into the historical abyss - march march !!!
  36. 0
    24 May 2014
    Well, the Poles can’t resist, so that they won’t bite Russia once again, even if it’s disgusting, vile, stealth ... And what’s most surprising: they would not see Danzig, Silesia, or the western border along the Oder and Neise as their ears, if not for Stalin and the Red Army. I'm not talking about the fact that Hitler would surely have sucked all their heads into the stoves, right after the Jews ...
    But what about the West, so dearly beloved by all of Poland? Even if you don’t remember how London and Paris in the autumn of the 39th, they threw Warsaw calmly under German tanks? Two examples of everything from the 44th year: Arnhem and Monte Cassino. In both cases, the Allies of the Poles used cannon fodder, in fact they brought them under execution. This, as they say, is a medical fact. Nevertheless, they are white and fluffy, and Russia is the enemy.
  37. +1
    24 May 2014
    Quote: voveim
    in cold blood threw the German tanks?

    Before this, the Wehrmacht and the Polish Army entered Czechoslovakia .. And then there was Molotov with his pact.
  38. +5
    25 May 2014
    Quote: Eragon
    Quote: Kuvabatake
    And also cowards ...

    But this is in vain. World War II showed - they are anyone, but not cowards.
    During WWII, the Poles had a very popular song about the heroism of the Poles: "The Polish army took Berlin, the Russian army helped." In general, the Germans defeated these heroes in a month
  39. +1
    25 May 2014
    To close the topic of the heroism of the Poles in World War II, I strongly recommend that you find and read the book "The Vile of the Vile" by Jerzy Klimkowski, adjutant of General Anders. The beginning of the war and the subsequent actions of the Polish army and its commander Gen. Anders are very informative.
  40. Xlistx
    0
    26 May 2014
    The Ukrainian SBU shows something very strange "professionalism".
    1. Svyatopolk
      -1
      26 May 2014
      Well, these are Ukrainians! What do you want from them? The country was plundered and pissed off, the gas pipe is periodically robbed, the world beggars, they have an army - laughing chickens! Independent Ukrainians lay down with amers under a geishop, legs spread wide with pleasure. They can only jump like stupid and yell "htoy not jump - that m.skal." You can't think of anything dumber and more idiotic! And, however, jumping is better than working. And you expect some kind of professionalism from them.
    2. 0
      26 May 2014
      Quote: XLISTX
      The Ukrainian SBU shows something very strange "professionalism".

      Among pros there are no people with suicidal tendencies, rare exceptions only confirm the rule.
  41. petr80
    0
    26 May 2014
    Quote: jktu66
    Unfortunately, there will be no sequel. The entire former "Warsaw Pact" trades in Soviet technology
    Bulgarians rivet Kalashnikovs without any licenses and remorse. Che do not clone mattress weapons, except for China

    Quote: jktu66
    Unfortunately, there will be no sequel. The entire former "Warsaw Pact" trades in Soviet technology
    Bulgarians rivet Kalashnikovs without any licenses and remorse. Che do not clone mattress weapons, except for China

    Yusovskie rifles are difficult to manufacture unlike AK
  42. necha265
    0
    26 May 2014
    I'm just sure that JUDA was a Pole and no one on this planet will convince me !!! A greedy, greedy people with all the additional components to the above! I personally met in Wroclaw !! fellow
  43. 0
    26 May 2014
    and when these fascists override each other ... recourse
  44. 0
    26 May 2014
    Actually, I know only one atypical Pole.
    Marshal K.K. Rokossovsky. Probably our best commander during the Second World War (one of the best, for sure). And it seems that the only one of the highest military men who, after Stalin's death, refused to pour dirt on him at the direction of Khrushchev, for which he was removed from the post of Deputy Minister of Defense of the USSR. He, like all exceptions, only confirms the rule about the rest of the Poles, the vile people.
  45. 0
    26 May 2014
    My classmate served in Poland. During the Soviet era. He treated the Poles badly. When asked why? answered briefly: "Because. The Pole is not a nation, but a profession ..". Probably not without reason.
    The reasons for the Polish arrogance and hatred of Russia can be argued and guessed for a long time. But the version that suits me the most (I don’t remember the author) is that, over the course of history, Poland had several chances to become a great power, but it never realized its chance. But Russia did not miss its chances. Therefore, the Psheks are angry. The inferiority complex and nothing more.
    Quote: raven75
    Actually, I know only one atypical Pole.
    Marshal K.K. Rokossovsky. Probably our best commander during the Second World War (one of the best, for sure). And it seems that the only one of the highest military men who, after Stalin's death, refused to pour dirt on him at the direction of Khrushchev, for which he was removed from the post of Deputy Minister of Defense of the USSR. He, like all exceptions, only confirms the rule about the rest of the Poles, the vile people.

    If my memory serves me, then in one of the works Bushkov described a certain circumstance ... If there is a decent Pole, then dig a little deeper and it turns out that this is ... Rusyns !!! And I always liked Rokossovsky more than Zhukov.
  46. 0
    26 May 2014
    It seems to me that it is useless to wait for a reaction about these MANPADS, if in Odessa people themselves burned themselves, as they say in all democratic instances, then MANPADS are nothing for these freaks.
  47. Grandfather Victor
    0
    26 May 2014
    If we, like the last dolbo..by, we will not, under any circumstances, sell modern weapons to anyone without falling, then they will not be used against us!
  48. jaan
    0
    27 May 2014
    What a beautiful challenge.
    Izvestia described the way, after which the Thunder rocket - a copy of the Russian Needles, in turn modeled on the American Stingerach - hit the Mesko military factories in Skarżysku Stone, allegedly across Ukraine and Georgia to Chechnya.

    Now, these missiles hit the Ukraine.

    100 sets of thunder rockets Poland legally sold in Georgia. You can read it on the UN arms control pages. Transactions approved by the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Economics. Each sovereign state is not subject to sanctions can buy weapons in such a way that it wants.

    The Russians won the Polish missiles in Georgia, transported them to Chechnya and located the media in the manger of the stage to show how Poland is against Russia.

    This is a repeat of the Chechens. Missiles were in Ukraine.

    Let the editor check the press releases between 2008 and 20010 and not write nonsense.

    Thinking has a great future.

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