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The largest project of Russia and China

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A joint project between Russia and China to create a wide-body aircraft will help both countries to significantly strengthen their position in the long-range aircraft market, which is now dominated by the United States and Europe. If we manage to successfully bargain with Chinese partners, then for Russian aircraft manufacturers this project will be a good reason to increase competitiveness. aviation materials and equipment.

The three-year negotiations between Russia and China on the joint creation of a wide-body long-haul airliner reached a new stage and gained real outlines. During the visit of the Russian delegation to the PRC, President of United Aircraft Building Corporation (UAC), Mikhail Poghosyan, and Chairman of the Board of Directors of COMAC, a Chinese corporation, signed a memorandum of cooperation on a prospective passenger wide-body long-haul passenger plane program in Shanghai.

«The signed document is the result of two years of joint work by specialists from Russia and China. Combining the efforts of COMAC and UAC to jointly create a wide-body aircraft family brings the cooperation of both countries in the field of aviation to a fundamentally new level"- said Mikhail Pogosyan.

Within the framework of the Russian-Chinese project, several hundred aircraft may be launched. According to the KLA, the demand for wide-body aircraft up to 2033 can be about 8 thousand units, of which more than seven thousand passenger aircraft. More than half of the total demand in the wide-body segment, about four thousand airliners, will in the long run be in the Asia-Pacific market, of which about a thousand aircraft may be in demand for the domestic market of China.

According to experts, the signed agreement could initiate the largest project in the cooperation of Russia and China in the field of high technologies, since the engineers of both countries will have to create a new wide-body aircraft from scratch. The task is ambitious - to press the American Boeing and the French Airbus on the long-range aircraft market.

A source familiar with the terms of the memorandum in the Russian delegation in Shanghai explained Expert Online that, thanks to the implementation of the project, not only Russian technologies will be in demand, but also the capacities of the plants. It is assumed that Russia and China will produce components, a glider and a wing, and avionics in approximately equal volume.

“A number of projects for the creation of domestic aircraft, for example, SSJ-100 and MC-21, allowed Russian enterprises to launch the production of components that are comparable in quality and price to Western ones. Not only Russian technologies in the field of design, but also the capacities of the enterprises producing component parts will be in demand, ”says a source in the Russian delegation.

The working group of Russian and Chinese engineers has been operating for three years. UAC has offered Chinese partners to take the PD-14 Russian engine, developed under the MC-21 aircraft program, as the basis for the future liner. It is at its base that the UAC plans to create a new concept of a wide-body version of the modification of the mainline aircraft of the 21st century. However, the PRC intends to mainly independently realize their achievements in the field of aircraft engine building when creating a passenger long-haul aircraft. "But in this case, Russian developers will be attracted to the creation of a fan circuit for the new engine," the source added.

“It should be recognized that Russia is now losing to China on composite materials, including because they have fewer export licenses and therefore a wider market,” explained Expert Online, chief designer of Aerocomposite CJSC Sergey Kulikov. - But then we have no equal in aerodynamic design. The same China ordered wing design at the Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute and was very pleased. At the same time, the first composite wing developed by us consists mainly of imported materials. The problem is that our polymers are still expensive because of limited production. But if we are talking about several hundred airplanes, then this is a decent amount, which will make it possible to sharply reduce the cost of our materials due to multi-production. In general, such cooperation opens up great prospects, since the combination of advanced technologies on both sides will help to make a competitive airliner. ”

Ready to participate in the creation of a joint Russian-Chinese wide-body aircraft in terms of the development of aviation materials and technologies and the All-Russian Institute of Aviation Materials (VIAM). Preliminary consultations on this issue have already been initiated by the KLA. Currently, VIAM and the Avic Aviation Engineering Academy of China (AVIC TECH) have decided to combine their efforts to carry out joint fundamental-oriented and applied research.

“Our institute has been cooperating with colleagues from China for a long time in the field of creating and using new materials for civil aviation,” explained Roman Streshnev, Expert Online, head of the VIAM Corporate Communications department. - It should be noted that, in the image of VIAM, a similar material science institute was established in Beijing - the Beijing Institute of Aviation Materials, with which we maintain close contacts.

At the International Aviation and Space Salon MAKS-2013, VIAM General Director, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Yevgeny Kablov and President of AVIC TECH Liu Lin signed a framework agreement on cooperation and joint activities in the field of civil aviation.

“Among the priority areas of cooperation with China are the issues of creating new materials for advanced civil aircraft,” says Roman Streshnev. - VIAM is undoubtedly a leading institution in its field, to whose works the Chinese side shows great interest. At the same time, it should be noted that in recent years, colleagues from the Middle Kingdom have achieved a lot in the field of aeronautical materials science. ”

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The Beijing Institute of Aviation Materials is a leading Chinese institute whose main activity is the research, development and implementation of aviation materials and technologies. PIAM is a part of the large scientific and technical complex AVIC TECH, which in turn is subordinate to the China Aviation Industry Corporation (AVIC).

Aviation Equipment Holding, which develops and manufactures 18 types of aircraft systems and units, is ready to supply its products for the joint project.

In nine of them, which are priorities, the holding has the competence of the integrator. These include power supply and fire protection systems, chassis, auxiliary power unit, oxygen system, parachutes and landing facilities, emergency escape facilities and ground support.

“Now Aviation Equipment Holding is working on creating unique and promising systems that will meet the requirements of not only domestic, but also foreign customers,” said Maxim Kuzyuk, Director General of Aviation Equipment Holding, told Expert Online. - We are ready to participate in the project to create a new wide-body aircraft. The systems we create are as unified as possible, and most of them can be modified for any board. This will reduce development, supply and after-sales costs. ”

Most likely, suppliers of systems will be selected on a competitive basis.

“We are ready to participate in tenders, both with time-tested systems, and with our latest developments, depending on what requirements the equipment will place on the customer. Now Aviation Equipment Holding is successfully cooperating with UAC on a number of projects, and we are confident that we will be invited as one of the main partners in this program, ”says Maxim Kuzyuk.

As Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said earlier, now the sector of long-range wide-body aircraft is almost lost for the Russian aircraft industry. About 80% of traffic on such aircraft accounted for equipment manufactured by Airbus and Boeing. Therefore, a joint project of Russia and China, when entering the international market, is bound to meet with severe competition. However, we also have the necessary technologies obtained during the modernization of the IL-96 developed in the USSR, the only wide-body aircraft in Russia. Such liners are distinguished by the width of the fuselage in 5-6 meters against four meters in conventional aircraft, they can accommodate up to 10 seats in a row. Because of roominess, they are much more often used as long-haul. Attracting China, which also needs such aircraft, will help to significantly increase the number of aircraft planned for construction and thereby improve the main financial indicators of the project and implement advanced engineering developments.

“Russian engineers are still one of the most powerful specialists in the world in the field of military technical engineering,” explained Ivan Andrievsky, First Vice-President of the Russian Union of Engineers All-Russian Public Organization, Expert Online. - Chinese engineers often learn from their Russian colleagues. Our country has unique knowledge in the field of aircraft and rocket production. Russia is one of the leaders in this field. That is why the same Chinese specialists are actively cooperating with domestic companies and educational institutions, which have achieved very significant success in this matter. But our Chinese colleagues are strong in electronic technology and excel in a variety of high-tech areas. ”

This summer, the KLA and COMAC plan to submit a feasibility study of the project to their governments. In the near future, the parties will begin to implement the next stage of work on the project. It is necessary to determine how the development of the main systems of the aircraft will be conducted, the directions of its advancement and the most effective formats of participation of the parties. But even at a normal pace of negotiation, mass production can only be established by the end of this decade.

“Now the central issue of negotiations will be who in the framework of the partnership will receive more preferences, the market for parts, what will be the investment volumes of both parties,” explained Anton Danilov-Danilyan, co-chairman of Business Russia, Expert Online. - As a production worker, I’ll say that it’s not very easy to negotiate with the Chinese in such matters, they think in terms of thousands of years. But the sooner we reach an agreement, the sooner we will come close to competing with American and European long-haul airliners. ”
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  1. Kodar 75
    Kodar 75 22 May 2014 07: 31
    +8
    BOEING AND AIRBUS ........ Come on bye))))
    1. Baikal
      Baikal 22 May 2014 07: 33
      +8
      Now the central issue of the negotiations will be who in the framework of the partnership will receive more preferences, the market for the sale of parts, what will be the investment volumes of both parties ...

      Hopefully, the history of the agreement on the demilitarization of the border with China will not be repeated and everything will be signed as it should and taking into account our interests. That the partnership was, and not the rent of a raw materials appendage with the discharge of the technical base.
      And to the project of clear sky!
      1. MOISEY
        MOISEY 22 May 2014 07: 49
        +3
        In addition, it is still worth our government to think about a military-political alliance. Thus, realize the worst US nightmare.
    2. SibRUS
      SibRUS 22 May 2014 07: 35
      +2
      "A series of explosions thundered in the administrative center of Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (XUAR) of the PRC in the west of the country - in the city of Urumqi. According to Xinhua news agency, there are killed and wounded." - The United States does not just lose.
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 22 May 2014 09: 59
        0
        .... The Uighurs have long been annealing .... Everyone can not forgive Stalin that he gave 2/3 of the territory to China ...
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    4. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 22 May 2014 07: 36
      +2
      Well, about the Boeing, it’s not necessary. They’ll freak out to the point. And, the fact that China wants a technologist, I’m B. l.
    5. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 May 2014 07: 44
      +4
      Quote: Kodar75
      BOEING AND AIRBUS

      Sooner you send them to the landfill, too soon.
    6. nycsson
      nycsson 22 May 2014 08: 31
      -7
      About the project.
      In order to launch it, you need to invest 55 billion dollars from our side and 22 from China. Export will begin in 6 years !!! In connection with the rapid development of events around Russia, 6 years is an eternity !!! You will have to invest grandmothers against the background of the World Cup and not only. Against the background of Western sanctions. Against the background of the possible abandonment of our gas in Europe, and all this goes. In my opinion, this project is the last nail in the coffin of our economy.
    7. Veter
      Veter 22 May 2014 08: 48
      0
      Quote: Kodar75
      BOEING AND AIRBUS ........ Come on bye))))

      It's too early to rejoice. Look at the structure of the fleet of leading and not quite Russian airlines.
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 22 May 2014 10: 01
        -3
        ..... Well, yes ... Aviakhlam with a 10-20 year life (intensive) and a flying time of 20000 hours .....
    8. Rus2012
      Rus2012 22 May 2014 14: 00
      +1
      Quote: Kodar75
      BOEING AND AIRBUS ........ Come on bye))))

  2. gandalf
    gandalf 22 May 2014 07: 31
    +5
    Instead of words laughing
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 22 May 2014 08: 33
      +4
      Quote: gandalf
      Instead of words

      I wouldn’t say that in your place .......
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 22 May 2014 07: 34
    +4
    BOEING AND AIRBUS ........ Come on bye))))


    In addition, an agreement with China on the supply of gas worth 400 billion will also drown the ungrateful EUROPE in its own guano.

    heh heh .... for sanctions as well as for careless words, you also need to answer.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 22 May 2014 08: 19
      -1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      In addition, an agreement with China on the supply of gas worth 400 billion will also drown the ungrateful EUROPE in its own guano.

      The press overestimates the results of the signed agreements. Russia accepted the conditions of China that were definitely not favorable for itself. 350 dollars per thousand cubic meters of gas is less than we wanted. For ten years they were bargaining with China, while at least $ 360 was considered unprofitable, on the verge of profitability, they wanted $ 400 ... Moreover, the zeroing of the MET means that the "treasury" will not receive anything from this contract.
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 22 May 2014 08: 44
        +4
        Quote: Nayhas
        The press overestimates the results of the signed agreements. Russia accepted the conditions of China that were definitely not favorable for itself. 350 dollars per thousand cubic meters of gas is less than we wanted. For ten years they were bargaining with China, while at least $ 360 was considered unprofitable, on the verge of profitability, they wanted $ 400 ... Moreover, the zeroing of the MET means that the "treasury" will not receive anything from this contract.


        After ten years of negotiations, Gazprom was able to negotiate with China on gas supplies. The company achieved a relatively good base price of about $ 380 per thousand cubic meters, which coincides with current prices for Europe
        Based on this figure, as well as the presence of a five-year period for increasing supplies with a gradual increase to the level of 38 billion cubic meters per year, the base price of gas can be about $ 380 per thousand cubic meters. The deputy head of the FNEB Alexei Grivach suggests the range of $ 380-390, Dmitry Lukashov from VTB Capital - $ 395. This roughly corresponds to the average price of Gazprom for Europe, which last year amounted to $ 386 per thousand cubic meters. In this way, During negotiations with the Chinese, Gazprom was generally able to defend the desired price level, not agreeing to a reduction to $ 360 per thousand cubic meters. In the future, the base price will change in accordance with the dynamics of the basket of petroleum products (fuel oil, diesel fuel and Brent oil), the basis for which is Singapore.
        . http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2476392
      2. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 22 May 2014 12: 36
        -4
        I think it's still much worse. There are versions that the gas price of $ 350 is an average value. The contract was signed on the condition of a gradual decrease in the price of gas depending on the amount of its consumption. That is, initially, when gas is consumed relatively little (its transport routes are not established), the price of gas will be $ 380, and then it will decrease, as sales volumes grow, up to $ 290. On the other hand, part of the agreement on the so-called "concessions" for the development and export of minerals and materials (especially timber) by the Chinese has not been disclosed for as much as 25 years! In addition, there is an opinion that contracts were concluded for the lease of agricultural areas in Russia.
      3. Associate Professor
        Associate Professor 22 May 2014 13: 22
        +3
        Quote: Nayhas
        The press overestimates the results of the signed agreements. Russia accepted the conditions of China definitely not beneficial for itself. 350 dollars per thousand cubic meters of gas is less than wanted.

        That's how you know who accepted whose conditions. Are you a negotiator? I doubt it. We must not forget that in these deliveries there are no costs associated with the need to pay for gas transit through third countries. For example, when delivering gas to Europe through Ukraine, Russia paid more than $ 3 per 1000 cubic meters for every 100 kilometers. Even in a straight line from East to West of Ukraine, the distance is more than 1000 km. Total more than $ 30 for every 1000 cubic meters you need to pay only for transit to Europe. Plus, the distance to Europe from Western Siberia is much greater than from Eastern Siberia to China
  4. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 22 May 2014 07: 35
    +11
    A topic in time. Yesterday I went to Tsenzor.net, and there Nevtsov was filled with nightingale that Russia had not signed a contract with China and that the gas talks had failed. Another expected Putin fiasco. And then bam, ten minutes pass and the news of the signing of the contract lol But Nemtsov was not at a loss, one of his news was deleted after some time, a new one was inserted- Russia's net loss from the "deal of the century" with China will amount to $ 35 million, - Nemtsov
    Gazprom will invest $ 96 billion in the project and pay off loans, and will earn $ 60 billion.


    Gas supplies to China are sheer losses and robbery of Russia. This was stated by the Russian opposition politician, co-chairman of the opposition party RPR-PARNAS Boris Nemtsov Source: http://censor.net.ua/n286388
    laughing
    Who lives next to Nemtsov, but call him a doctor in fact, otherwise soon the roof will completely go down lolNow he sculpts articles for planes, somewhere.
    1. SibRUS
      SibRUS 22 May 2014 07: 37
      +3
      Hysterics.
      1. honey nervous seizure with convulsions and tears due to hysteria.
      2. decomp. extremely nervous, excited state, leading to the loss of self-control and expressed in unmotivated painful actions, in a sharp change of mood.

      The usual thing hi
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    3. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 22 May 2014 07: 50
      +6
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      But Nemtsov was not taken aback, one of his news is removed after a while, a new one is inserted- Russia's net loss from the "deal of the century" with China will amount to $ 35 million, - Nemtsov
      Gazprom will invest $ 96 billion in the project and pay off loans, and will earn $ 60 billion.

      And in the title Millions of, and in the opus itself, already billions laughing
      It is seen that in a hurry they slandered laughing
    4. Baikal
      Baikal 22 May 2014 08: 24
      +1
      Soviet installation of the dead Bendera.
      I would go to the exhibition with a similar participation of Nemtsov repeatedly and with pleasure.

    5. nycsson
      nycsson 22 May 2014 08: 38
      -4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Theme by time.

      Hi Romanov! Nemtsov is not an authority for me, but there is some truth in his words. Think about the circumstances under which you will have to "fence" this project.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 22 May 2014 09: 47
        +3
        Quote: nycsson
        Nemtsov is not authority for me, but there is some truth in his words.

        What is the truth? And look at the latest articles by Nemtsov, Russia-KHANA. Putin lost everywhere and all that. What is the truth of his words?
        Quote: nycsson
        ... Think about the circumstances under which you will have to "fence" this project.

        And with the South Stream it was easier or with the North.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 22 May 2014 12: 07
          -3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And look at the latest articles by Nemtsov, Russia -KHANA.

          At this rate, really HANA.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And with the South Stream it was easier or with the North.

          I won’t say anything about the north. But the southern one is in doubt. It is unlikely that it will be completed.
          Of course easier. Our economy is "going" with an ax to the bottom! And all this against the backdrop of sanctions. I'll tell you more. The European market will be taken away from us. Here's a look. The events in Ukraine are a redistribution of the gas market. Ours threaten to reduce deliveries by the volume that is intended for Ukraine! So what? Yes, they will take the gas that is intended for Europe and that's it. It's a mess there. And the result will be one. Europe will switch to another gas. As they say, they frightened a goat with a hooded goat! wassat
          1. Associate Professor
            Associate Professor 22 May 2014 13: 25
            +2
            Quote: nycsson
            Europe will switch to another gas. As they say, scared the goat with cabbage!

            What interesting gas will Europe switch to?
            1. _my opinion
              _my opinion 22 May 2014 14: 17
              0
              Quote: Docent
              Quote: nycsson
              Europe will switch to another gas. As they say, scared the goat with cabbage!

              What interesting gas will Europe switch to?

              Let Europe stay on our gas, it’s not going anywhere.
              It is the United States that is feeding all the tales of shale gas ... garbage all this ... another illusion ... more details can be found here:
              "Shale gas - the revolution did not take place"
              http://nstarikov.ru/blog/39970
              I can also recall about the previous illusion of amers gas pipeline Nabucco.
              the Americans then also jumped out of their pants - all threatened to "free Europe from Russian gas."Nabucco construction is frozen The illusion dissipated.
          2. _my opinion
            _my opinion 22 May 2014 14: 25
            +1
            Quote: nycsson
            Our economy is "going" with an ax to the bottom!

            Well, well ... but nothing:
            - "Ministry of Finance: surplus the federal budget of the Russian Federation in January-April amounted to 67,14 billion" good http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/49632/ (для справки: профицит-это превышение доходов над расходами)
            In general, I recommend to visit the site "made by us" http://sdelanounas.ru/ more often to feel that WE HAVE WHAT TO BE Proud of..
            - Sanctions? here is their result:
            The cancellation of the G8 summit in Sochi will allow Russia save more than 2 billion rubles good
            Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/32616#ixzz32RI5DD1U

            I can still argue with those who, by misunderstanding, repeat the words of the regular clown McCain about the "gas station" -
            Today, Russia is a major global exporter of a huge range of non-primary, high-tech goods and services, and even if tomorrow suddenly our oil and gas ceases to be bought at all - this does not threaten any economic catastrophe. http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/49758/:
  5. saag
    saag 22 May 2014 07: 37
    -2
    Well, there will be a Chinese replica of IL-96
  6. mamont5
    mamont5 22 May 2014 07: 39
    +2
    Yes-ah, all the spiteful critics are liquidating ... thinly. And how puffed ...
  7. sazhka4
    sazhka4 22 May 2014 07: 47
    +1
    Presumably, the "pipe" is the only connecting thread. Nowhere else do we intersect? Foolish and shortsighted .. Details are not published. It's strange.
  8. Dbnfkmtdbx
    Dbnfkmtdbx 22 May 2014 08: 01
    0
    Of all the presidents since the time of L.I. Brezhnev and V.V. Putin, I trust that all this is not flattery; all this beautifully leads to both domestic and foreign policy. So I don’t think that with China he was mistaken in the end we are Russia, drinks not Europe
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 22 May 2014 08: 17
      +3
      Quote: Dbnfkmtdbx
      Of all the presidents since the time of L.I. Brezhnev and V.V. Putin, I trust that all this is not flattery; all this beautifully leads to both domestic and foreign policy. So I don’t think that with China he was mistaken in the end we are Russia, drinks not Europe

      about the internal better keep quiet ... beautiful ... de it simply does not exist! on the ground the kings rule, and they do not care what is there "great and terrible" says. but you are not from this country ... admire ... fool apparently, two different people are involved in domestic and foreign policy! maybe there is an unsuccessful clone ???
    2. Altona
      Altona 22 May 2014 09: 19
      0
      Quote: Dbnfkmtdbx
      beautifully conducts that domestic, that foreign policy.

      -----------------
      There is just no internal ... Everything is imprisoned for projects of large national capital, so that profits, kickbacks, and all the charms of imperialism ...
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  9. Name
    Name 22 May 2014 08: 05
    +5
    Quote: MOISEY
    In addition, it is still worth our government to think about a military-political alliance. Thus, realize the worst US nightmare.

    The worst nightmare at this time is the rejection of the dollar in mutual settlements between Russia and China (God forbid the EU).
  10. Burmistr
    Burmistr 22 May 2014 08: 10
    +2
    If it is possible to successfully bargain with Chinese partners, then for Russian aircraft manufacturers this project will be a good reason to increase the competitiveness of aviation materials and equipment


    Well, nonsense! Clowns! Since the 80s, we have such a wide-body aircraft development that no one has ever dreamed of! Gathered to sell materials, not finished products. Well, clowns, by golly. I’ve been waiting for many years when they will give funding for work on the prospective flying vehicle EKIP, when they will begin to produce this miracle, but only talk like this article. It is sad that the most promising developments go either over the hill or are wrapped up. This once again confirms that we are not the owners in our country, and I suspect that on the planet.
    On the resource "Military Review" there was already an article about this aircraft.
    http://topwar.ru/16867-letatelnyy-apparat-ekip-russkoe-nlo.html
    I draw your attention to the fact that this aircraft is the safest of all in the world. Even with the failure of all engines, the aircraft can plan at a fall speed of 3 m / s (approximately 11 km / h). In the worst case, passengers get off with a slight startle.

    ECIPA website http://www.ekip-aviation-concern.com/index-r.htm
  11. yulka2980
    yulka2980 22 May 2014 08: 13
    +2
    I hope all for the best, for Russia winked
    1. GRune
      GRune 22 May 2014 10: 29
      +1
      It is doubtful both gas (at a price) and the sale of the SU-35 (the bastards will copy) and joint development (in engine building they will sharply catch up) ... Will Russia in the end receive at least some dividends from this "cooperation" this is a Question ...
  12. Nayhas
    Nayhas 22 May 2014 08: 24
    +1
    We will make passenger planes with China ... China is not India, it will not be the second number. Most likely, the development will be led by Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (Comac), the role of our design bureaus will be secondary ...
  13. Altona
    Altona 22 May 2014 08: 46
    +3
    The gas contract is, of course, a bomb ... The fact that Putin rushed there already spoke about the success of all preliminary negotiations ... They played an affair for the world, and contracts were waved ... As for technologies, this is a moot point ... If they are not developed with such a large market , then inside the country they do not need nafig, no one will pull them on a scale, because the entire aviation industry of the USSR was also honed under the CMEA, too, with the Warsaw Pact ... So, in any case, it was necessary to cooperate with someone ...
  14. Vladimir1960
    Vladimir1960 22 May 2014 09: 02
    +3
    There is reason for optimism.
    "VTB has started paying in yuan."
    A branch of VTB Bank in Shanghai, the only Russian bank with a financial license in China, conducted the first cross-border operation in the RMB yuan in the amount of 20 million yuan (over 110 million rubles).
    The branch has successfully implemented a number of preparatory measures for obtaining permission from the PRC regulatory authorities, including the installation of specialized reporting systems, the modernization of the information technology platform and staff training.
    Until now, the Shanghai branch has been able to make international payments in foreign currency and in rubles. Cross-border operations in RMB will enable VTB to expand the range of services provided to companies involved in Russian-Chinese trade.
    Now VTB Bank’s customers in Russia can make settlements with Chinese counterparties in RMB using accounts in the Shanghai branch, as well as place deposits in China. In turn, VTB customers in China get the opportunity to pay the yuan to Russian exporters who have bank accounts.
    Senior Vice President, Head of the Department of VTB Bank Subsidiaries Mikhail Yakunin noted:

    “For more than three years, the VTB branch in Shanghai has been the leader in terms of the amount and volume of foreign exchange trade in the ruble-yuan. In 2013 alone, 1047 operations were performed for a total amount of 19,4 billion rubles. In the first quarter of 2014, the Shanghai branch continued to successfully grow its business. The development of settlements in RMB of the PRC along with operations in rubles is a strategic direction of VTB's work in the Chinese financial market. We have taken another important step in the development of Russian-Chinese trade relations. ”

    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/49780/#cut
  15. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 22 May 2014 09: 16
    +1
    Yesterday, of course, many liberals were "bombed", after all, they bypassed their beloved Europe, this is good, of course, this is only the first step, but the main thing is to start, and not sit back and lament about their unhappy fate, in Ukraine they have sat there, now waiting for someone "to come and put things in order."
  16. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 22 May 2014 09: 29
    +2
    After ten years of negotiations, Gazprom was able to negotiate with China on gas supplies. The company has achieved a relatively good base price of about $ 380 per thousand cubic meters, which is in line with current prices for Europe.
    Hats off to Putin. The price is very good. To be honest, until the last I was not sure that they would agree on the price of gas. For geyropa it’s like an aspen stake in the heart, but it turns out that besides them, there is also someone to buy Russian gas. That's only in mutual settlements to get away from the dollar. As for airplanes, it would be better if we let them out ourselves. This will be a leap forward for the Chinese aviation industry.
  17. Giant thought
    Giant thought 22 May 2014 09: 44
    0
    It is not yet indicated where the assembly of the liners will take place. Most rational, if both in Russia and in China. A gas agreement is like sharpening under an EU rib. Finished, called on his dumb head.
  18. tolancop
    tolancop 22 May 2014 10: 31
    +1
    A lot has been written about the gas contract with China: about prices, volumes, pipes, advances, etc. I did not see only one thing: In Russia, gas for its industry will remain or will everything be sold to China? The development of Russian industry will require an increase in energy consumption, will there be enough ... Or is the development of Russian industry not planned? ... Questions and doubts ....
  19. siberalt
    siberalt 22 May 2014 10: 58
    0
    Something needs to be done with our aviation. It is cheaper to fly from Siberia to Moscow via Beijing.
  20. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 22 May 2014 11: 58
    0
    I think everything that’s being done now is the best, bring it with such problems that the United States and the EU arranged for us, GDP is not a stupid person who understands what needs to be done!
  21. rudolff
    rudolff 22 May 2014 13: 06
    +2
    Some time ago, the news was circulating in the media about a joint wide-body airliner project with the Chinese, and technical documentation for the 96th was supposed to be a contribution to the project from the Russian side. Production was planned in China. I hope that this still does not happen and the new liner will be really new with an equal contribution from both sides.