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The war with the "wrong" journalists in Ukraine, or the story of one betrayal by the Ukrainian "colleagues"

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One of the important issues of concern to the journalistic community in connection with the detention on the territory of Ukraine of the crew of the TV channel LifeNews, sounds like this: why Ukrainian colleagues do not make any efforts to tell Ukraine and the rest of the world the truth? Why does the Ukrainian media environment echo the SSU employees, calling LifeNews journalists as terrorists, demonstrating absolutely worthless attempts to link the work of correspondents from Russia with alleged smuggling? weapons? Is the spirit of professional solidarity alien to the Ukrainian media?


The war with the "wrong" journalists in Ukraine, or the story of one betrayal by the Ukrainian "colleagues"


In fact, to answer all these questions is not so difficult. After all, most of what today stands under the banner of the Ukrainian mass media are not, in fact, such. The only status on which television stations controlled by the “pows” can be, as well as publications and radio stations, is the status of mass disinformation, the abbreviation of which has already managed to settle down in the world of mass media. The media is not equal to the SMD, and therefore it is somehow strange to expect from the Ukrainian pseudo-colleagues of the above-mentioned professional solidarity and actions aimed at supporting journalists arrested on clearly fabricated charges.

As you know, several days earlier, representatives of the Ukrainian security service (according to another version, the national guard) detained the crew of LifeNews TV channel Marat Saychenko and Oleg Sidyakin in the vicinity of Kramatorsk. In order to explain the reason for the detention of journalists, shots were distributed with things “confiscated” from journalists. Among the things (documents, business cards, stationery and filming equipment) you casually “turned out” ... a portable anti-aircraft missile system, which was carefully captured by uklyaruzbudists in the photo and video.



These shots (shots with MANPADS), like shots with handcuffed journalists on their knees, spread all over the world. Most people capable of soberly assessing the situation, on the basis of such personnel, came to the only possible conclusion: Kiev crosses all imaginable and inconceivable boundaries, engaging in clumsy fabrication of data. In addition, perhaps a thought might have arisen about why only MANPADS, and not a tank? .. And where are the ampoules with anthrax and the “dirty” atomic bomb brought by journalists from Iran’s underground mines or from the far dacha of former President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ...

Who needed this stupidest accusation of journalists, and why Kiev chose journalists as the target — let's see. The fact is that there is such a proverb: on bezrybe and cancer - fish. She works here in the sense that prior to this episode, UkroSMD had to issue materials about the detention of the SBU, except for virtual “GRU officers”, “FSB generals” and other “special agents” from Russia who are not perceived by the eye. When Ukraine realized that they were at risk of going into a misinformation impasse with a virtual agent, they decided to “joke” in another direction. One of these areas was, as they say, on the surface - Russian journalists working in Ukraine. The main thing is that the journalists had Russian passports, and this is today on the remnants of independence almost the main proof of the “enemy nature” of a person.

But the detention of journalists is an extraordinary thing, because the SBU decided to “fiddle” their move with “irrefutable evidence” of the participation of LifeNews film crew in “terrorist activity” - they added to the picture of MANPADS. The picture from the center of Europe of the 21st century — with wrung hands and journalists on its knees, with faces to the ground — provoked outrage, but not from the American authorities.

The State Department, represented by the public's favorite, Jen Psaki, at first sluggishly dissuaded that he did not know anything about the arbitrariness towards journalists and would “study in his office”, and then, “having studied”, the same Psaki said:

LifeNews reporters Oleg Sidyakin and Marat Saychenko may be involved in sabotage actions of supporters of the Donetsk People's Republic, as well as arms smuggling.

Because of the ocean, it’s better to see what journalists are doing ... Well, of course, anything at all, just not covering the events. Here Psaki and those who wrote her the next text (after the text of the "electoral carousel"), again surpassed themselves.

Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is on a state visit to China, responded to the detention of Russian journalists:

LifeNews journalists are now accused of all mortal sins, including the fact that they carry some kind of weapon, which is complete nonsense and absolute nonsense.


There is an opinion that they understand the absurd accusations themselves and the gentlemen from the SBU (if they, of course, have gray matter left in the skull boxes, not affected by the grains of “democratization”), but only they need to work out those Western loans that the self-proclaimed Kiev authorities asked the "friends", how to work and place their bosses, made in the "generalissimo" Maidan. “Friends” want to get a show for their money, and this show is offered to them with special zeal.

Sometimes they are taken so actively to stage the show that they are going too far in several places. One of these excesses concerns the detention in Mariupol of Graham Phillips, a journalist working with Russia Today. Apparently, the word “Russia” had on the representatives of the National Guard who participated in the detention the same effect as the experimental dogs of Academician Pavlova had a lighting up lamp - copious salivation and the desire to get “food”. The fact that a British journalist was not immediately remembered ... The journalist was ordered to remove the captured files, to give away a helmet and body armor. Phillips did not.

Interestingly, just a few hours before Phillips was arrested, the following inscription appeared on the Euromaidan microblog:

SBU, expel Graham Phillips from Ukraine already. A month ago, we wrote about him that he was firing positions of the siloviki.




Now, it must be assumed, the Security Service of the USSR is considering how to resolve the situation with the presence of a British passport by Phillips and the simultaneous cooperation of a journalist with RUSSIA Today (the first word on UrKopatriot, as already mentioned, has acted too seriously) ...

The Youtube service turned out to be a video of interrogation of one of the detained LifeNews journalists Marat Saychenko, who said that he had arrived with his colleague in Ukraine, allegedly hiding the real purpose of the visit. In addition, Saychenko says on the recording that the documents certifying him with Oleg Sidyakin are personalities - as personalities of LifeNews employees, they left in Moscow.



Already these words of Saychenko are evidence that he gives his testimony under apparent pressure, since the frames that were presented above show certificates of press representatives and accreditation certificates of LifeNews correspondents.



SBU (well, or the valiant Nazi Guard) pierced on his own video ...

Russian authorities, world-renowned journalists, representatives of public organizations demanded that Kiev immediately release the correspondents captured in Ukraine.

PS The publication in one of the blogs of Ekho Moskvy, a Ukrainian journalist Gorobets, made a lot of noise. The video he took from the LifeNews website shows the coordination of the fire of Donbas militias by a man behind the scenes. In a blog, all this is presented as if LN journalists are coordinators of hostilities in the Donbas. Apparently, Gorobets is very far from modern methods of receiving large media information - methods in which the participants in the events themselves can broadcast their videos from the scene of these events. LifeNews has long used this method. Moreover, if the militiamen videotapses the course of hostilities and provides this video to the media, this does not mean that he is an employee of this media. In general, Gorobets clearly overdid it, forcing Ekho Moskvy to make excuses ...

And here is the same militia that was posted on LifeNews employee on the Echo blog.


PSS A day after the detention of stringer Graham Phillips RT by Kiev authorities, he was released. He himself announced this in his Twitter microblog, thanking everyone who was actively involved in his fate. The released journalist spoke in more detail about his detention on RT.

US Department of State calls for the release of Russian journalists, whose professional affiliation doubted the day before

“We would urge the Ukrainian authorities to investigate the incident and release these people if they are truly journalists and were not involved in illegal actions,” said psaki.
According to her, this applies to detained Russian journalists Oleg Sidyakin and Marat Saychenko.

“So you are the last ones who were not convinced that they are journalists?” One of the reporters asked a representative of the State Department.

“We still have the concern that we talked about yesterday about the circumstances and these personalities,” said Psaki.
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  1. jovanni
    jovanni 22 May 2014 08: 17
    +29
    "... why are Ukrainian colleagues not making any effort to tell both Ukraine and the rest of the world the truth?"

    Yes, there are no more colleagues! Some cripples remained. Moral. They infected the fascist brains with their conscience and professional honor. Now they are maydaunas.
    1. MOISEY
      MOISEY 22 May 2014 08: 27
      +15
      And as a savage mockery, one recalls Savik Shuster's March oath "I speak only the truth, and I demand the same from my Russian colleagues"
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 22 May 2014 08: 59
        +6
        Justice will prevail. Motorola militia combat reporter is a real warrior, a helmet on a helmet for a sniper how to kill two birds with one stone, this is how you have to prove the truth to the whole world.
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      3. avg
        avg 22 May 2014 13: 04
        +5
        Quote: MOISEY
        And as a savage mockery, one recalls Savik Shuster's March oath "I speak only the truth, and I demand the same from my Russian colleagues"

        The episode from "Wedding in Malinovka" immediately comes to mind.
        -I am Ataman ideological and all my guys stand as one for a free person ...
        -So they will rob
      4. Andrey Gladkikh
        Andrey Gladkikh 22 May 2014 19: 50
        +7
        Shevelis Mikhailovich Shusteris (Savik Shuster) has fiercely hated Russia since the days when, as an employee of Radio Liberty, he crawled with the Mujahideen in the mountains of Afghanistan and described the "atrocities" of the Shuravi. Rotten little man.
        1. umkasvar
          umkasvar 4 June 2014 02: 47
          0
          But yap Dimka Kisel - cool kid! He is not rotten, they will not trust the rotten to lick ass Great Pu!
      5. Erg
        Erg 22 May 2014 20: 31
        0
        I just want to tell him - "swear by your mother." I wonder how this worm would have escaped
    2. xenod55
      xenod55 22 May 2014 10: 08
      +2
      Punch, who can of course, the belonging of MANPADS (it looks like a "needle") under the number 5495390000. It would be interesting.
      1. Nikolav
        Nikolav 22 May 2014 11: 48
        +1
        It was claimed that it was the Polish Groza MANPADS.
      2. Andrey78
        Andrey78 22 May 2014 11: 52
        +2
        This is the Polish version of "Needle" - "Grom"
    3. sssla
      sssla 22 May 2014 10: 13
      +8
      Quote: Jovanni
      Yes, there are no more colleagues! Some cripples remained. Moral. They infected the fascist brains with their conscience and professional honor. Now they are maydaunas

      You will not believe how well-fed life, good money, pi ... ling from the "owner" and the fear of getting luli on the street work wonders. The journalist turns into a talking head. They remember that they are journalists when they are pushed by someone in a crowd of demonstrators. Or they need to work out an order like the schizophrenic journalist Chornovol in Ukraine.
      1. Gloria45
        Gloria45 22 May 2014 10: 59
        +4
        One of the important issues of concern to the journalistic community in connection with the detention on the territory of Ukraine of the crew of the TV channel LifeNews, sounds like this: why Ukrainian colleagues do not make any efforts to tell Ukraine and the rest of the world the truth?

        Because Ukraine needs a different movie.

        Unable to break the popular resistance in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, the helpless, many-thousand-strong army of the Kiev pro-American junta appealed for help to HOLLYWOOD.
        American producers screwed up again, forgetting that which actors are CINEMA.
        As one of the traitors of our people and a lover of round tables said: "Mahmo te scho mahmo" with which all the dill and congratulations!
        Welcome to DONBASS! Come, we will show you a real MOVIE !!!
        1. umkasvar
          umkasvar 4 June 2014 02: 53
          0
          They asked, and came to you! Have you already seen enough in Donetsk and Krasny Liman? Or else to show? And there is no need to say "our people" - your people in Tambov are eating a horse in a ditch. Glory to Ukraine! If you want to, you can hardly read and intelligence. The idea of ​​a vilne Dombas has turned into a vilne mice at yours!
    4. umkasvar
      umkasvar 4 June 2014 02: 44
      0
      I suppose you are talking about your "Cossacks"? Have you remembered solidarity? And we probably don't know how the KP journalist set the Russian ones with machine guns against the journalist of the Bild edition. This is not solidarity. After all, this is a German, this is not a man. And the journalist from Lviv, who spent enough days in hostages - is that also not a person? Why were the Russian cripples silent about this (and this is not a typo)? So maybe we are Maydauns, then you are just downs, although there is nothing to compare poor sick people with such a moral insignificance as you. Glory to Ukraine!
  2. Afinogen
    Afinogen 22 May 2014 08: 18
    +3
    The US State Department calls for the release of Russian journalists,


    They organized it all.
    1. makst83
      makst83 22 May 2014 08: 24
      +32
      I am a rzhunimaga with psaki! laughing She, like Klitschko, is a generator of random words!
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 22 May 2014 09: 27
        +2
        Quote: makst83
        , like Klitschko - random word generator!

        Of course, all my life I’ll get hit on the head with claws, what will work there? So - random word generator! fool
      2. Gorinich
        Gorinich 22 May 2014 10: 42
        +8
        random word generator. Bravo!!! We must take into service. laughing
      3. maximus235
        maximus235 22 May 2014 11: 05
        +5
        She is a talking head without a brain. She doesn’t even understand what she’s carrying (just remember the case with elected carousels)
        1. Kombrig
          Kombrig 22 May 2014 23: 09
          +1
          Well, what you attacked the girl, she has such a job - to cram the invisible))) And to be honest, I’m watching the news only because of Psaki, I’m sitting and waiting: what bullet will pour out this time ....
      4. cesar65
        cesar65 22 May 2014 11: 24
        +3
        Quote: makst83
        She, like Klitschko, is a generator of random words!

        Why do you need a head: ... and I also eat it.
      5. kudwar68
        kudwar68 22 May 2014 12: 53
        +5
        Quote: makst83
        I am a rzhunimaga with psaki! laughing She, like Klitschko, is a generator of random words!

        And I have a new one! wassat
      6. Erg
        Erg 22 May 2014 20: 42
        +1
        Her eyes are something. One comrade put it very accurately on this score. "These are the eyes of a shitty cat who knows that retribution is inevitable."
    2. fif21
      fif21 22 May 2014 13: 03
      0
      Quote: Athenogen
      They organized it all.

      Operation SBU of Ukraine. As an option, the hotel administrator and driver, in the trunk of the car of which they found MANPADS of Polish manufacture, are the SBU of Ukraine. Who is the third detainee? Russia, what is the visa regime with Ukraine? Kiev junta is afraid of the truth! Cowardly and mean people. Fascists am
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    4. Erg
      Erg 22 May 2014 20: 39
      0
      The police sometimes do the same. First he organizes the crime, then he "uncovers" it. What "valor" ...
  3. pensioner
    pensioner 22 May 2014 08: 18
    +4
    As long as any Ukrainian trash will humiliate our people ???
    1. sscha
      sscha 22 May 2014 08: 42
      +11
      As long as Venediktov, who set up the journalists in the MANPADS episode, will teach us how to live right? hi
      1. Akvadra
        Akvadra 22 May 2014 16: 44
        +3
        The guys from "LN" said correctly and very accurately - betrayal and bestiality! It's time to shave Venidiktov's head, roll it out in pitch and feathers, and in this form lead him on a rope around Moscow.
        1. the villain
          the villain 22 May 2014 17: 19
          +1
          Quote: Akvadra
          It’s time for Venidiktov to shave baldly, toss out in resin and feathers, and in this form to pull the rope around Moscow.

          And little green greens, green little greens, and before the conclusion of the snowstorm to him.
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  4. mirag2
    mirag2 22 May 2014 08: 19
    +9
    Ahh, finally! Press the lousy Echo! How did I expect this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Yes, I gloat, although I know that this is not good.
  5. polly
    polly 22 May 2014 08: 20
    +1
    When this cannabis is already written on a piece of paper, so that the Kiev vassals will free our guys!
  6. mirag2
    mirag2 22 May 2014 08: 22
    +7
    And when Echo shouted about the "conscience of the political prisoner Khodorkovsky," he did not say anything about the American Pension Fund, which was the co-founder of YUKOS and received insane interest in income !!
    "Thief" Putin, something money in the US Pension Fund (Germany, England, etc.) - DOES NOT INSERT, but starts projects with US, in RUSSIA!
    1. denis02135
      denis02135 23 May 2014 02: 21
      -1
      Dear, what projects is he starting?
  7. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 22 May 2014 08: 24
    +2
    At this rate, dill and Goebbels are shut up for the belt ... Obedient students.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 22 May 2014 08: 50
      +4
      Quote: Prapor-527
      At this rate, dill and Goebbels in the belt plugged.

      Yes Yes Yes! Everyone knows that under the guise of journalists, Russia sends saboteurs to us! Otherwise, who is fighting in Slavyansk? They drove us as many as 7 million protesters working from the GRU since childhood! And finally! We can too !!!

      The National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine finally found itself. In the development of the concept of anti-propaganda, which means that the propaganda channel itself is neither. Probably, it will be called UT - so that everyone in the world will guess who this telekuzkin mother is being shown to. Speak on the channel will be in Russian and English (for those who want only Ukrainian, there is already the First National, and Gorbatsk TV, and others). And the need for his appearance as deputy secretary of the NSDC, in the recent past, an experienced grant-maker Syumar, explains with the very charming logic, which is usually called "female", so as not to offend anyone. “We cannot and will not copy the Russian propaganda machine, because it is: inefficient; expensive; foreign broadcasting should promote Ukrainian values, the values ​​of the new Ukraine, which seeks not to be a post-Soviet or authoritarian Russia, but instead seeks successful social transformation. The broadcast should be state-owned and broadcast to the CIS countries, Europe, the USA and, in the Ukrainian case, to the temporarily occupied territory of Crimea. ” The base for the canal has already been prepared by pocketing the power of the watermelon channel BTR. And, as you already understand, the status of a state channel implies budget financing. What now will start a brawl for the right to be on a millionth feeding, is scary to think. Indeed, the “First National”, which is also successfully socially “transforming,” claims to be a budget.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/article-146074.html#title
  8. AleksPol
    AleksPol 22 May 2014 08: 25
    +3
    The truth is a powerful weapon. That junta is trying to crush her
  9. skayl
    skayl 22 May 2014 08: 33
    +7
    In addition to Ukrainians. Colleagues, our 5 columns are also enough. We got all sorts of ECHI and the like, they should not be closed, but crushed with fines (with - and!).
  10. Bigfoot_Sev
    Bigfoot_Sev 22 May 2014 08: 34
    +1
    So. the author of the article either did NOT listen carefully to Saychenko, or did NOT look at what he attached as an image.

    Saychenko says that they left all the documents about their professional activities in Russia. and new documents were received already in Donetsk. In the photo, in general, this is confirmation. SBU in this context is not pierced.

    and here comes the phrase about mass disinformation. :-)
    intentionally or not - the information is distorted. even in such trifles.
    it is necessary to double-check everything personally. it already begins to enrage. when they lie everything, everywhere, with or without.
    1. Genry
      Genry 22 May 2014 09: 41
      +5
      And you in your post did not reflect the fact that the entire Russian press at the border is being deployed back. Therefore, for travel and did not show identification LN.

      Conclusion - you are lying!

      So any information can be "re-voiced". The fact is that truthful information is being stifled in all possible and illegal ways. And this is the main point of the article.
      1. Bigfoot_Sev
        Bigfoot_Sev 22 May 2014 17: 02
        0
        watch 0:43 interrogation.
        we read the text and look at the photo.
        we think carefully. think again.

        and only after that we already begin to attach the reasons why they did it, ok?
        in this case, in the article, a distortion of the facts.
        in your post, in principle, the same thing.

        what did I write about? not about "what insidious Russian journalists!" no. that the versty article is here, the author of the article does not bother to reduce the factual. and gives out a "stupid" fried fact.
  11. Gray 43
    Gray 43 22 May 2014 08: 36
    +2
    Yes, common sense is Ukrainian. The warriors in the warehouse weren’t given out and they didn’t send humanitarian aid, why are there just MANPADS ???? And who then burned armored vehicles? Certainly journalists, they also have Russian passports, and this is worse than any weapon of mass destruction. They also have a portrait of Putin, with his help the National Guard is captured. Bullshit !!!
  12. mamont5
    mamont5 22 May 2014 08: 49
    +11
    “We still have the concerns we talked about yesterday about the circumstances and these individuals,” Psaki replied.

    And we have even greater confidence in the complete schizophrenia of this "lady" and her employers.
    1. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 22 May 2014 19: 30
      0
      Really for this post in the State Department they chose on the principle - the dumber, the better? Apparently so.
  13. Egoza
    Egoza 22 May 2014 08: 56
    +5
    On May 20.05.2014, 4785, the Verkhovna Rada in the second reading voted for bill No. 30 “On Amending Certain Laws of Ukraine to Improve Defense-Mobilization Issues During the Mobilization”. Its authors are A. Kuzmuk, People's Deputy from the PR, the former Minister of Defense, Y. Samoilenko - also a "regional", a former security officer with XNUMX years of experience, "Svobodovets" Y. Sirotyuk, I. Stoyko - a representative of the "Fatherland" and joined the former Litvinets S. Grinevetsky, by the way, the deputy chairman of inter-parliamentary relations with the Russian Federation, awarded the Order of Friendship of the Russian Federation. As you can see, the team is very motley.
    The bill contains one key provision that allows government agencies to select vehicles free of charge for the needs of the army and other paramilitary units not only from enterprises and organizations, but also from private owners.
    ... practically any vehicle can be “attracted for free” - from a “black boomer” or an elite-class jeep to an old Tavria or a tractor.
    The law established that the brand of the vehicle will be determined by local military registration and enlistment offices at their discretion .... according to the bill cars will be seized not only for the army, but also for the needs of other paramilitary groups!
    XXXX
    What am I doing? That's how much you can find in the trunk !!! It will be where our journalists turn around !!!
  14. archi.sailor
    archi.sailor 22 May 2014 09: 06
    +2
    Quote: makst83
    random word generator!

    laughing laughing very fun in the morning! thanks for the mood! lol lol
  15. mackonya
    mackonya 22 May 2014 09: 23
    +1
    I think that by the end of the week the journalists will be released, without evidence charges it will be difficult to just keep that. It is strange that foreign public organizations for the protection of journalists have just been silent, and the human rights society is also silent.
  16. sledge
    sledge 22 May 2014 09: 26
    0
    Magazines are always corrupt
  17. RPG_
    RPG_ 22 May 2014 09: 41
    0
    To complete the picture, you need to break through the serial of MANPADS and voice to the whole world where it hung.
    1. Genry
      Genry 22 May 2014 09: 47
      -1
      MANPADS - Polish analogue of "Igla".
      And at least the American ... Whom it thrills.
  18. Galich Kos
    Galich Kos 22 May 2014 09: 45
    +1
    And blaspheme who does not skip that maskal. On the magazine, this crap also applies.
    1. Buran
      Buran 22 May 2014 12: 48
      +5
      And there are those who are jumping ...
      1. the villain
        the villain 22 May 2014 17: 34
        +3
        Quote: Buran
        there are who are jumping.
    2. Erg
      Erg 22 May 2014 20: 55
      0
      Who does not ride - that b. And who jumps - that complete moral dead man, killer and fascist
      1. poquello
        poquello 22 May 2014 23: 13
        +1
        Quote: Erg
        Who does not ride - that b. And who jumps - that complete moral dead man, killer and fascist

        Yes, you sho, the Nazi insinuations Shtanmaer calls us fascists, only and where is democracy in Ukraine? probably in banana elections and the total terror of their own people, very non-fascist methods, and ordinary Germans, in his opinion, do not understand anything, their job is to mumble, and they are speaking out. I wonder how much time will pass in Germany before the start of repression of dissidents.
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  19. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 22 May 2014 10: 00
    +3
    With ukrSMD it is clear there they can soak for the truth. But Echo of Moscow does the same!
  20. noskov
    noskov 22 May 2014 11: 02
    +3
    Quote: xenod55
    Punch, who can of course, the belonging of MANPADS (it looks like a "needle") under the number 5495390000. It would be interesting.

    This is not a NEEDLE!
    This is the Polish version of our NEEDLE. since 98 years is made. think for yourself whose it is. I am becoming more and more convinced that in the special services of dill - random people.
    By and large, all this fuss around the South East - sorting out some yard punks.
    1. Nikolav
      Nikolav 22 May 2014 12: 10
      +1
      During the war on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX, our army seized hundreds of Polish-made "Groza" MANPADS from the Georgian order. Their fate is unknown.
  21. b.t.a.
    b.t.a. 22 May 2014 11: 10
    +1
    Quote: mackonya



    mackonya


    Today, 09: 23

    ↓ New


    I think that by the end of the week the journalists will be released, without evidence charges it will be difficult to just keep that. It is strange that foreign public organizations for the protection of journalists have just been silent, and the human rights society is also silent.




    Reply
    quote

    "democracy" however. ... Who does not share the point of view of the Maidan is already a "criminal". The journalists will of course be released, but they saw what a "valiant" SBU did not care about Russia. The cookies have worked.
  22. siberalt
    siberalt 22 May 2014 11: 14
    0
    Saichenko cannot be “washed away” from his statement. As the unforgettable pastor Schlag used to say: - "I can't stand it if I have a whip in my ribs." And here even whips were not used. Simply because he will not be able to prove the use of violence or coercion against him. A word cannot be interrupted by a word. Maybe they are cool as journalists, but as men, they are weak to fear. I will be glad if I'm wrong. Something like this.
  23. liberal
    liberal 22 May 2014 11: 28
    -5
    Ukrainian SBU is still far from comedians from the FSB. think, they tied to the journalists PZRK, babble. I remember, right after September 11, 2001, our faces found in Chechnya a cache with weapons and instructions for managing a Boeing, so I neighing.
    so, Ukrainians, train your imagination.
  24. Cvetluy
    Cvetluy 22 May 2014 12: 02
    +6
    A little off topic, for info
    Bloggers found out that the father of acting. President of Ukraine Turchinov served in the Nazi army
    The blogger, writing under the pseudonym kurgoko, published a document explaining Russophobia, acting President of Ukraine Alexander Turchinov.
    http://danber.ru/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/2199627df66013c524f28516a510f1b8.jpg

    As you know, the father of Alexander Turchinov - Valentin Ivanovich Turchinov, born in 1909. On August 13, 1942, Valentin Ivanovich was captured under the village of Ulyanovo, Orel Region. So, it happens in war and there is nothing reprehensible in this.
    But ... Being an ordinary soldier of the working battalion of the German army ... Yes, yes, an ordinary Nazi army, not a prisoner of the Nazi concentration camp, but a "soldier" of the Reich in the warm French town of Lanion. Maybe it was influenced by the fact that Turchinov, the father, is a native of Red Kut, a German settlement in the Saratov region. Maybe something else. But this is a betrayal of the motherland.
    And for treason, they are punished. And the father of the current acting the heads of the Bandera junta were sent to mines in a remote corner of the Chita region. And here is the son of an ordinary working battalion of the Nazi army, acting President of Ukraine cancels Victory Day on May 9. Heil Hitler, Ukraine
  25. northern
    northern 22 May 2014 12: 15
    +7
    Congratulations to the glorious SBU with another epic obser! They were smart enough (?) To present photographs of "material evidence" of the assistance of Life News journalists to "terrorists" - allegedly found in their car MANPADS
    Polish MANPADS "Thunder" from a batch sold at one time by Poland ... Saakashvili. Whether Saakashvili kindly provided the necessary shooting props, or even while transporting this batch of MANPADS, something stuck to the sweaty hands - we will hardly ever find out.
    1. denis02135
      denis02135 23 May 2014 02: 46
      -4
      Two voros.
      1.Polish is Polish, which means ON. on green?
      Enable - Włączone
      Turn Off - Wyłączone
      This product was made for the USSR or Russia, for Georgia it would be in English or Georgian.
      2. If I’m not mistaken in the photo with the documents where there are two arrows
      Accreditation of the DPR (who recognized it? Even Putin did not recognize it) and a photocopy of the PRESS document should be the original.
      So from the position of the SBU or the FSB, the police or the police they were detained legally. Hold m. not necessary, but it’s understandable why they detained me.
      1. northern
        northern 23 May 2014 02: 56
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        You cleverly equalized the positions of the SBU and the FSB. It is necessary to decide something, or something.
        1. denis02135
          denis02135 23 May 2014 17: 03
          -2
          And I do not compare, but only say that from the position of law enforcement officers (good or bad, right or wrong) they acted according to the law. Just do not say that the execution of criminal orders .....
          It’s bad when Russian journalists are not allowed to go to Ukraine, and when it’s good to foreign to Russia, it’s not necessary to have double standards.

          In late September, Russian authorities denied entry visas to Dutch photographer Rob Hornstre and writer Arnold van Bruggen. They were preparing the photo exhibition The Sochi Project, which was supposed to open at Winzavod. As a result, the exhibition was held at the Sakharov Center and, in parallel, at the City Theater of Amsterdam.

          In February 2011, The Guardian journalist Luke Harding was not allowed into Russia. The Russian Foreign Ministry explained the reason for the expulsion by the fact that Harding did not receive the certificate of a foreign correspondent issued to him. Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov added that Harding has repeatedly violated accreditation rules while working in Russia. Two months later, the journalist was also allowed to return to Russia.

          In early 2012, Russian authorities accused the French writer Ann Niva of violating the visa regime. She was ordered to leave the country within three days. However, in the future, the FMS said that Niva could return to Russia.

          In July 2010, photographer Marie Bastashevski, a Danish citizen, was denied entry to Russia. For two years she worked on a photo project entitled "Article 126 (Abductions in the Caucasus)". However, she worked closely with Natalia Estemirova, who died in 2009.

          And
          However, the Russian embassy in Kiev told Sutter that he was banned from entering Russia. "The competent authorities decided that your presence on the territory of the Russian Federation is undesirable."

          And more
          On December 16, Morar returned to Russia from a week-long business trip to Israel. When passing through passport control at Domodedovo Airport, she was informed that, according to the decision of the FSB, she was forbidden to enter Russia.

          PS 1 of Article 27 of the Federal Law “On the Procedure for Departure from and Entry into the Russian Federation”. This article states: "Entry into the Russian Federation by a foreign citizen or stateless person is not permitted if it is necessary in order to ensure the defense capability or security of the state, or public order, or protect public health." Representatives of the Russian Foreign Ministry said that “in accordance with international practice, states are not obliged to explain the reasons for closing entry to their territory. (Change the Russian Federation to Ukraine and you will understand everything)
          And you here on this forum did not say a word. Ay mead where freedom of speech smile Or the damned State Department is to blame?

          PSS I do not defend the Ukrainian authorities, but only write that if you have standards for the actions of the enemy, then apply them to yourself (or when they offend you it is bad, and when you do it right).
          Sincerely.
          1. poquello
            poquello 23 May 2014 20: 07
            +2
            Quote: denis02135
            .
            In late September, the Russian authorities refused entry
            .

            for a long time picking?
            Quote: denis02135
            ...
            And you here on this forum did not say a word. Ay mead where freedom of speech smile Or the damned State Department is to blame?

            Well, I’m reading your attempts, I forgot by the way to transfer the maidband to whom the entrance was closed, well, for the justice of the moment.
            Without any respect, I do not respect falsifiers mowing down as fighters for justice.
            1. denis02135
              denis02135 24 May 2014 05: 25
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              Falsification is certainly worthless, only where falsifications are in my post (you can refute then I will apologize). And where else you see attempts it is so copy-paste. When a thief screams that he is being robbed, then somehow he does not cause sympathy. Someone said a clever thought: "But value and respect your enemy, for a worthy enemy is better than an unworthy friend."
              1. poquello
                poquello 24 May 2014 22: 32
                +1
                Quote: denis02135
                To falsify is certainly worthless, only where is the falsification in my post ...

                Do not make a fool of yourself naive, there are no equivalences in the few personal bans on entering Russia and in the general bans on entering Ukraine.
                The “Great Soviet Encyclopedia” gives the following definition of the term “falsification” (late Lat. Falsificatio, from falsifico - fake):
                malicious, intentional data corruption;
                obviously misinterpretation of something;
                1. denis02135
                  denis02135 27 May 2014 18: 24
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                  Of course, did I fake something or misinterpret it? Just? If you have forbidden entry to one of two, then you will not shout about the ban of 20-30 or 100.

                  Preobrazhensky: If you care about your digestion, my good advice is not to talk about Bolshevism and medicine at dinner. And - God bless you - do not read Soviet newspapers before dinner.

                  Dictionary of Ozhegova:
                  FALSE, -i, ace (book). 1. see falsify. 2. A fake item, a thing that is presented as real, fake.
                  FALSE, -th, -rush; -an; owls and nesov. that (book). To fake (to swim), to distort (to press) in order to pass off as genuine, present. F. story. And noun. falsification || adj. falsification, th, th.
                  So the war of quotes is not needed here.

                  And as there in one clever book:
                  1. "When they continued to ask Him, He, having lifted himself up, said to them: who among you is without sin, first cast a stone at her." Gospels of John (chap. 8, v. 7)
                  2. Treat the lower as you would like the higher to treat you. Seneca
  26. negeroi
    negeroi 22 May 2014 12: 21
    +2
    Right, wrong journalists. You can’t come up with a more cynical and senile phenomenon. Everyone is already accustomed to the business from the box, which is edited by professional puppeteers, editors and their meat stringers. .And at the same time, these people feeding on bleeding meat, though they do not disdain shit or carrion, demand some SPECIAL treatment for themselves. They say they are Demigods, and you can’t touch them, otherwise you will not recognize the truth and the Divine will punish you and your conscience you don’t have it. Well, delirium, bullshit. What kind of relationship do they want from people whose lives are ruined? From people, fate that brought them to war? How to understand the righteous anger of journalists, they say you are at war, we’ll stand nearby and you will You can’t touch it. Bullshit! Bullshit and bullshit. In war, as in war, everything happens and happens anyway. Yes, the profession of journalists is like that. Yes, but the risk is professional. Is it worth crying, and be indignant if it's your job? that man and whether an atomic bomb was found in the cha, well, so in a war as in a war. And in this war, we need to yell even louder and more often. I do not contradict myself. I just think that in an information war and just do in a war, you need to use all available ways to win, and to reduce losses. We need to shout to the whole world about the shoals of our opponents. But to cry, really believe that bad uncles shouldn’t act like this is overkill. In war, war. Guys knew where They rode, they knew this, choosing a profession. God grant them strength ... and good luck.
  27. Yugra
    Yugra 22 May 2014 12: 44
    +3
    How well today Soloviev walked through Moscow’s tattered echo, drew all the points. It’s time to end up being more liberal, at best to expel traitors who are bastards, at worst to shoot. And shoot in the forehead, smeared with green
  28. Black
    Black 22 May 2014 12: 47
    +3
    I don’t know how anyone, but for me .. our guys knelt on the background of troops withdrawn from the border, nothing more than a spit ....
    Our squealing - "give, they say, illegal, immoral, ..." - childish babble. Yes, after this, the huntyats will wipe their feet about us for nothing !!!
    He brought his hand - hit! Otherwise, they begin to consider you NICK and act accordingly.
    1. aleks700
      aleks700 22 May 2014 16: 07
      0
      Right! Only who thinks about it?
  29. aud13
    aud13 22 May 2014 12: 51
    +6
    The worst weapon for maydaunas is not MANPADS, but a journalist’s movie camera objectively covering events in Ukraine.
    1. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 22 May 2014 19: 38
      0
      They do not see what they do not want ... He who has eyes, does not see, who has ears, does not hear. Why are they then eyes and ears?
  30. vasiliysxx
    vasiliysxx 22 May 2014 12: 53
    +1
    Probably at the border some vigilant Ukrainian customs officer noticed the edges of MANPADS sticking out of his pocket, it should have been declared as a saxophone.
  31. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 22 May 2014 14: 00
    +4
    Zae bali are already preoccupied with a troubled continent! bully
  32. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 22 May 2014 14: 03
    +2
    But whatever one may say, this is yet another provocation! Amer really NEEDS TO DRAW RUSSIA IN THE WAR TO ALL THE EUROPE TURNED UP! Otherwise, Amer is fucked up! yes
    1. Evgeniy1
      Evgeniy1 22 May 2014 20: 14
      +1
      "But whatever one may say, but this is another provocation! Amers really NEED TO DRAG RUSSIA INTO A WAR IN ORDER THE WHOLE EUROPE TO BURN UP! Otherwise, amers pi here!"
      Dear wake up, the war has been going on for 2 months. War is ideological, political, diplomatic, informational, economic, "cold" and "hot", but in WAR ALL MEANS are "good", the main thing is VICTORY !, and the rest is fairy tales for "idiots".
      In the field of diplomacy, information, ideology, economics ... we LOSE, as in the first Crimean War!
      And the amers war in Europe is just what they need, they have a kind of "practice" as it was in the First and Second World Wars.
      By the way, Donbas announced MOBILIZATION, but I'm afraid it's too late, it should have been done a month ago.
    2. Evgeniy1
      Evgeniy1 22 May 2014 20: 14
      0
      "But whatever one may say, but this is another provocation! Amers really NEED TO DRAG RUSSIA INTO A WAR IN ORDER THE WHOLE EUROPE TO BURN UP! Otherwise, amers pi here!"
      Dear wake up, the war has been going on for 2 months. War is ideological, political, diplomatic, informational, economic, "cold" and "hot", but in WAR ALL MEANS are "good", the main thing is VICTORY !, and the rest is fairy tales for "idiots".
      In the field of diplomacy, information, ideology, economics ... we LOSE, as in the first Crimean War!
      And the amers war in Europe is just what they need, they have a kind of "practice" as it was in the First and Second World Wars.
      By the way, Donbas announced MOBILIZATION, but I'm afraid it's too late, it should have been done a month ago.
  33. Alibekulu
    Alibekulu 22 May 2014 14: 12
    0
    Regarding Russian journalists.
    Ukrainians need to act more subtly. And learn from Russian colleagues. An example is right before your eyes. Look how "militias / separatists" who captured the Europeans from the OSCE.
    Those. it was necessary to declare that Russian journalists "are visiting them" or "we have taken them under protection from separatists" .. laughing
    Business ..
  34. svd-xnumx
    svd-xnumx 22 May 2014 14: 38
    0
    ukrovlast stifling all media not leading the "general line"
    On the eve of the elections, the security forces staged masks in the largest newspaper in Ukraine
    22.05.2014/12/23 12:46 (updated at XNUMX:XNUMX)

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    On the eve of the presidential elections in Ukraine, scheduled for May 25, journalists of one of the few media holdings that try to cover the situation in the country more or less objectively, report the seizure of the editorial office of the newspaper Vesti by the security forces (it has nothing to do with Vesti of the Russian holding VGTRK - Approx.ed.).

    Employees were blocked in the room, they are not allowed to leave the building. Phones were seized from those inside the building, so it is not possible to contact and find out about their condition.
    all the news here
    http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1607051
  35. Michael_59
    Michael_59 22 May 2014 15: 02
    +1
    Quote: author
    Why the Ukrainian media is echoing to SBU employees, calling LifeNews journalists terrorists, demonstrating absolutely inept attempts


    Because the media environment is a bunch of inexpensively paid info-prostitutes.
  36. klavyr
    klavyr 22 May 2014 16: 03
    0
    “We still have the concern that we talked about yesterday about the circumstances and these personalities,” said Psaki.
    - Once again I am convinced of the intentions of the American side. They are not our partners. We are different! That's all!
  37. Technologist
    Technologist 22 May 2014 16: 42
    0
    Americans would have ruined the country for their own, and we ...................
  38. ks
    ks 22 May 2014 17: 49
    0
    Well, okay America was defeated, but what about windows, android, mc'donalds stand cancer and do not tweet, otherwise b. Will be
  39. Polarfox
    Polarfox 22 May 2014 18: 41
    +1
    I was killed by the fact that the guys attributed to MANPADS. How do you imagine the journey of journalists from MANPADS? Who does not know, the film crew is usually loaded like camels. A camera, a tripod for it, a case, spare batteries, microphones (usually two) and other crap. And so the two guys equipped in this way, according to the Ukrainian authorities, had to drag MANPADS also.

    By the way, in the YouTube video they show the serial number of this bundle, it is quite possible to break through the bases - by whom it is listed.
  40. homosum20
    homosum20 22 May 2014 19: 34
    0
    But who needs this? And so it’s clear that crap. In these clothes, try the intersection with MANPADS and Kalash (well, if you mash MANPADS, then you need to close the position early) - and then look at the sneakers and the bottom of the jeans. Bullshit for fools calculated. Fools (oops .... I apologize - America-ukrami) started.
  41. AAA
    AAA 22 May 2014 20: 42
    0
    Congratulations to the glorious SBU with the next epic obser!
    22 May 2014, Empire
    Polish MANPADS "Thunder" from a batch sold at one time by Poland ... Saakashvili. Whether Saakashvili kindly provided the necessary shooting props, or even while transporting this batch of MANPADS, something stuck to the sweaty hands - we will hardly ever find out.



    Polish MANPADS "Thunder" from a batch sold at one time by Poland ... Saakashvili. Whether Saakashvili kindly provided the necessary shooting props, or even while transporting this batch of MANPADS, something stuck to the sweaty hands - we will hardly ever find out.

    But!

    WikiLeaks has already told about the rest of this entertaining story with the geography of MANPADS distribution across the planet.

    wikileaks

    In November 26 MFA DVBR First Secretary Andrey Odnoral passed us a nonpaper and video that allege Polish-made MANPADS were discovered in Itumkale, Chechnya. The video showed a raid on a home in Itumkale which housed a weapons cache, including small arms, ammunition, and MANPADS. According to Odnoral, the GOR theorized that Poland sold these MANPADS to Georgia and, during the August conflict, Georgian soldiers abandoned these weapons, only to be recovered by Chechen "bandits."
    Chechen GROM's are:
    62.0.0.0.000E2, 1060, 2107, GROM E2, E2-07-21, 1060, FILLED
    62.0.0.0.000E2, 1031, 2107, GROM E2, E2-07-21, 1031, FILLED

    Ukraine 2014: 62.0.0.0.000E2, 1016, 2107, GROM E2, E2-07-21, 1016, FILLED

    Showdowns are still ongoing, but the SBU and Psaki are already making fun of American forums
    ===============================



    Help

    Grom was developed by the enterprises of the military-industrial complex of Poland on the basis of the Soviet Igla-1 and Igla MANPADS, and is produced by the production company MESKO SA (Skarzysko-Kamen). In the period from 1995 to 2004, the Russian side provided technical assistance in the development and development of production of individual MANPADS, supplied Russian components and materials, full localization of production at Polish enterprises was possible only after 2004.

    Source
  42. wandlitz
    wandlitz 22 May 2014 21: 28
    0
    “We remain concerned about which we spoke yesterday about the circumstances and these individuals,” Psaki answered.
    Interestingly, and this SSakaka will be able to determine that it is she herself, looking in the mirror?
  43. Santor
    Santor 22 May 2014 22: 00
    +1
    Quote: Polarfox
    By the way, in the YouTube video they show the serial number of this bundle, it is quite possible to break through the bases - by whom it is listed.


    Yes, the Poles themselves have already struck the manufacturer - Zaklady Metalowe MESKO. here it’s different - according to the technical specifications, the length of the product is 1.70 meters ... There, in fact, there are two pipes with a diameter of 20 cm, wrap them in a blanket and try to cram yourself in the trunk ... Who knows what kind of car the journalists had?
  44. NUT
    NUT 22 May 2014 23: 58
    0
    By the way, it is a great occasion to conduct a military operation to free these journalists. To smash this shoblu - "national guard" with which we do not drink, to the ebens, and transfer their equipment, weapons, and all property to the locals. I think the states in this situation were not shy and did not miss such a chance ...
  45. raf
    raf 23 May 2014 01: 44
    0
    Journalistic solidarity ?, maybe only with a fascist regime. Money needs to be worked out, the landlords, the Khuntyat writers, the Psaki, the others kept on the allowance of ukrooligarchs or the State Department. There is no worse sale writer.