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Russia and China agreed on a gas price and signed a contract

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Gazprom CEO Alexei Miller reports that the Russian company has signed a multi-year contract with China’s CNPC for gas supplies to the Celestial Empire. On the eve, the parties came to another deadlock in the sale of Russian gas to China, without having agreed on a price. Today, the parties managed to find a compromise solution. The total volume of gas that must be supplied annually to China by Gazprom will be 38 billion cubic meters. The total amount of the contract is approximately 400 billion dollars. Reports about it ITAR-TASS.

Russia and China agreed on a gas price and signed a contract


The terms of the contract are determined before the 2044 year - for the next 30 years. Taking into account all the parameters of the contract specified by Gazprom, it is easy to calculate at what price the representatives of the Russian and Chinese companies agreed. This price is approximately $ 350,8 per 1000 cubic meters.

At the same time, the originally designated price corridor for discussion between Moscow and Beijing was determined by the interval 350-400 dollars per thousand cubic meters of blue fuel. The Russian side wanted to sell on 400, the Chinese side wanted to buy on 350.

Based on the price that Gazprom and CNPC went to, it turns out that it was the Chinese wishes that were taken into account in the first place. However, this does not mean that Russia will suffer great losses from such concessions. Economists are confident that such a long-term contract, which is difficult to find analogues in the modern trading system, will help stabilize the economic situation in the domestic market of Russia and increase interest in investing in the Russian economy. This thesis is confirmed now: Gazprom’s shares immediately after the announcement of the conclusion of the contract added more than 2% to the price. Another plus for Russia is the diversification of sales markets.
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  1. lexxxus
    lexxxus 21 May 2014 15: 25
    +65
    All! Expand the pipe! And you drown your sanctions there! For the winter, I hope that's enough.
    am
    1. zanoza
      zanoza 21 May 2014 15: 30
      +35
      And what will the representative of the State Department J. Psaki say about this? laughing
      I haven't "lit" for a long time, pearls worthy of the Guinness Book of Records in its absurdity and dope. fool
      1. Eugeniy_369k
        Eugeniy_369k 21 May 2014 15: 39
        +17
        One has already been written
        Buddy Why on your map Russia is painted in the color of the flag only in the Asian part?))) The European part of the country is not ours along the way?)))

        Py.Sy. To paint immediately, at the same time, to grind Mongolia into a tricolor laughing laughing laughing
        1. zanoza
          zanoza 21 May 2014 16: 23
          +1
          Quote: Eugeniy_369k
          Paint on

          Below I tried to make excuses for the author of the picture and justify why Russia has become "short". Take a look. hi
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          2. Eugeniy_369k
            Eugeniy_369k 21 May 2014 17: 03
            +3
            Quote: zanoza
            Below I tried to make excuses for the author of the picture and substantiate why Russia has become "a bit short"

            We make excuses ... For the author you make excuses, and he asked you to sculpt your picture?
            Time of my post on your mistake "look", I can not read your thoughts.
            With Hokkaido, the author of the collage went too far (or hurried up?). There is no European part of Russia, it can be screwed up that the ignoramus or the victim of the Unified State Examination painted it, Hokkaido can also be attributed to this,

            And no one forced you to put the wrong picture, they themselves posted it.
            There is no need to rush in the recruitment of the post and push the blame on others
            “Hurry, make people laugh”

            more thoroughly need a citizen, more thoroughly.
            PS Acre minus and babble type "I'm not guilty, I was forced to force the picture" for something more (for example, to admit his mistake), the spirit was not enough. hi
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 21 May 2014 15: 39
        +17
        Quote: zanoza
        And what will the representative of the State Department J. Psaki say about this? laughing

        I don’t know! But here is a "psaka" from Barroso !!! Delivers no less !!! laughing

        Brussels. 21 May. INTERFAX - As long as trilateral gas negotiations between the EU, Russia and Ukraine continue, gas flows should not be interrupted, said European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso in a letter on behalf of the EU to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

        “I expect that the Russian Federation will fulfill this obligation. Therefore, Gazprom must continue to ensure supplies of the necessary volumes agreed in agreements with European companies,” says J.M. Barroso's letter, the text of which was circulated by the European Commission in Brussels.

        JM Barroso also said that he expects the Russian Federation to intensify the early warning system, if such a need arises.

        The President of the European Commission believes that discussions on gas prices for Ukraine already held by the three sides have shown the willingness of the government to pay the agreed debts.

        “It is imperative that all parties continue to participate constructively in this process, as well as agree on a future price that reflects market conditions,” wrote J.M. Barroso.

        According to him, it is necessary that all parties commit themselves to ensure transparency and openness of the market in the Ukrainian gas sector, as well as transparent conditions for the storage and transit of gas through Ukraine.

        In this regard, the head of the European Commission noted, the European Union is ready to provide data on the incoming gas flow from Ukraine. JM Barroso expects that Russia and Ukraine will also provide factual data on the flow and transit of gas through the territory of Ukraine.

        The President of the European Commission stressed the EU’s expectations that the parties will remain reliable and responsible partners in terms of gas supply and transit. This, he said, is in their own interests.

        He recalled the assistance to Ukraine from the European Union and international donors. "I also expect a constructive approach on the part of the Russian Federation in solving pressing problems," - said in a letter to J.M. Barroso.

        In conclusion, he announced the readiness of the European Union to continue the trilateral negotiations in order to find a "fast and reliable solution acceptable to all parties."

        The mouse pricked and cried, pricked and cried, but still continued to eat the cactus! wassatWinter, cold, here comes and then ... fellow
        1. S_W_A_T_72
          S_W_A_T_72 21 May 2014 16: 17
          +14
          And then clouds will probably suddenly dance
          And Abama is seething on the violin
          From the BLUE brook the river begins
          Well, friendship begins with a smile !!!!


          Well, a little later, the wizard in a blue helicopter will catch up !!!
          1. Andreitch
            Andreitch 21 May 2014 17: 59
            +5
            Yeah, Cheburashka will fly
            in a blue combination, and will show striptease for free.
            crocodile uncle Gena will take out a member to the knee,
            This will be our main surprise!
            1. Rusin Dima
              Rusin Dima 21 May 2014 18: 08
              +1
              Plus set
              1. nika407
                nika407 21 May 2014 20: 32
                +4
                and he jerked one by one with Zinping, he didn’t even blink))
      3. Petergut
        Petergut 21 May 2014 15: 43
        +13
        Dear zanoza. In the picture attached to your post, the Russian Federation has some wrong borders. The Japanese island of Hokkaido has not yet been squeezed, but for some reason the entire European part is not under the tricolor. And yes, Crimea? Where is the Russian Crimea !!!

        Ps Well, and Psaka, yes, the lady is nipadetski. But she is still far from the boxer.
        1. zanoza
          zanoza 21 May 2014 16: 21
          0
          Quote: Petergut
          On the picture attached to your post

          With Hokkaido, the author of the collage went too far (or hurried up?). There is no European part of Russia, it can be screwed up that the ignoramus or the victim of the USE painted it, Hokkaido can also be attributed to this, but it seems that the author was thinking about cooperation within the Asia-Pacific region. This picture suited me, because gas will go to China from near Irkutsk and Yakutia, i.e. from the Asian part of Russia, which must be raised to the proper level.
          These are my excuses hi
      4. Fevrrr
        Fevrrr 21 May 2014 16: 00
        +6
        Quote: zanoza
        And what will the representative of the State Department J. Psaki say about this?


        Yes Yes. Long time ago I didn’t read the psak :)
      5. S_W_A_T_72
        S_W_A_T_72 21 May 2014 16: 10
        +11
        I can’t wait for her koment ... I’m starting to get nervous ... I wouldn’t get sick ...
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 21 May 2014 16: 14
          +7
          Quote: S_W_A_T_72
          I can’t wait for her koment ... I’m already getting nervous ...

          Already my teeth ache as I want fresh "Psak" !!! laughing
        2. Sterlya
          Sterlya 21 May 2014 17: 03
          +4
          Quote: S_W_A_T_72
          I can’t wait for her koment ... I’m starting to get nervous ... I wouldn’t get sick ...

          I see not only me to like her, I want Pssak laughing Here a lady knows how. Each performance as a jumble
      6. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 May 2014 16: 19
        +4
        Quote: zanoza
        And what will the representative of the State Department J. Psaki say about this?

        Don’t you give a damn?
        1. zanoza
          zanoza 21 May 2014 16: 46
          +4
          You remember: "And what will the head of the transport department tell us ..."
          This is banter, funny. I want to laugh and mock the State Department.
          So spit on her.
        2. tolian
          tolian 21 May 2014 18: 08
          +3
          This psaka is a good illustration of our future psaks, after the full implementation of the exam.
        3. Andreitch
          Andreitch 21 May 2014 18: 18
          +2
          Well, after all, everyone loves neighing laughing especially over fools! Although she is dyed red, she is a bland! fellow
          1. Vasek
            Vasek 21 May 2014 19: 34
            +1
            Quote: Andreich
            Well, after all, everyone loves neighing, especially over fools! Although she is dyed red, she is a bland!

            Advice TP Zhenya Psachke:
      7. antidote
        antidote 21 May 2014 16: 20
        0
        Why is Russia only beyond the Urals?
        1. zanoza
          zanoza 21 May 2014 16: 31
          +1
          The Asia-Pacific region is depicted and the cooperation of Russia within this region, not drawn by me.Sorry. hi
      8. bomg.77
        bomg.77 21 May 2014 16: 26
        0
        A splinter, and that Russia on your map is so small in the Urals?
      9. Chavak_zloi
        Chavak_zloi 21 May 2014 16: 55
        0
        Have you forgotten the European part of Russia?
        1. zanoza
          zanoza 22 May 2014 13: 46
          0
          If the flag of Russia is raised only above the Kremlin, this does not mean that Russia is only there.
          Why did you decide that the Russian flag in this figure should cover the entire territory of Russia? Prove it up if this is shocking for you.
          Once again, for the "attentive" I inform you. Drawing(this is not my work of authorship) illustrated the corresponding article on the cooperation of the Eastern territories of Russia with China within the framework of the Asia-Pacific region. I write the fourth post about this, but they continue to ask why the whole territory of Russia is not painted over in the colors of the flag of Russia. Is geography knowledge checked? laughing
      10. Civil
        Civil 21 May 2014 18: 03
        +1
        Our gas, the price is a trade secret for the people ... or not ours?
        1. Vasek
          Vasek 21 May 2014 19: 38
          +1
          Quote: Civil
          Our gas, the price is a trade secret for the people ... or not ours?


          Not ours, but "People's Property"!
          When we cut everything on machines like Lyokha Miller, then it will be considered "our"!
      11. tolian
        tolian 21 May 2014 18: 03
        +1
        but they have some names. Dog Ki !!!
      12. skrgar
        skrgar 21 May 2014 18: 12
        +4
        By the way, Mongolia sent a request to the Government of the Russian Federation .. on the introduction of a visa-free regime)) smile
        1. Vasek
          Vasek 21 May 2014 19: 40
          +1
          Quote: skrgar
          By the way, Mongolia sent a request to the Government of the Russian Federation .. on the introduction of a visa-free regime))

          Like - rumors are circulating, do your Kirghiz come to an end? wassat
      13. Gilgamesh
        Gilgamesh 21 May 2014 23: 49
        +1
        Verily, I am waiting for her every briefing almost more than the New Year - it is more often and more fun. On the other hand, I respect her for the fact that after such, to put it mildly, oversights indicated by the journalists, she has not yet thrown herself a knife at the latter.
    2. zarya
      zarya 21 May 2014 15: 32
      +11
      Quote: lexxxus
      And you drown your sanctions there! For the winter, I hope that's enough.


      Banknotes, banknotes stoke the way. wassat wassat wassat

      Well, or let them develop nuclear energy ...
      1. MOISEY
        MOISEY 21 May 2014 15: 36
        +16
        I figured it and it turns out 38 billion cubic meters per year, this figure surprisingly corresponds to the annual consumption of Russian gas in Ukraine. Yaytsenyuk - hang yourself before it's too late.
        1. AnaBat
          AnaBat 21 May 2014 15: 59
          +2
          We are waiting for the psaki tantrum laughing
          1. S_W_A_T_72
            S_W_A_T_72 21 May 2014 16: 41
            +4
            Damn, HOW EVERYBODY IS WAITING FOR THIS PISSSSAKU
            😊
            1. Woolfy
              Woolfy 21 May 2014 16: 54
              +1
              I'm reviewing her pearls bully bully bully
            2. Andreitch
              Andreitch 21 May 2014 18: 21
              +3
              She better than Zadornova explains to us how stupid they are!
      2. arch_kate3
        arch_kate3 21 May 2014 16: 58
        0
        Restore the Chernobyl nuclear power plant?
      3. Andreitch
        Andreitch 21 May 2014 18: 19
        0
        And ours, Soviet!
    3. ispaniard
      ispaniard 21 May 2014 15: 33
      +6
      REFERENDUM ON JUNT, SANCTION CONTRACT! smile P.S. We are waiting for the next PEARL from the US State Department wassat from citizen PSAC ... laughing
      1. old man
        old man 21 May 2014 16: 10
        +1
        wassat Which, what saki
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    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 21 May 2014 15: 36
      +27
      The border with Russia is open and protected by DNR checkpoints

      The State Border Service of Ukraine reports that it no longer controls the border of the DPR and Russia.
      In the Donetsk region in the Shakhtersky district today at about 14 p.m. not far from the village of Kozhevnya (00 km from the state border of Ukraine), the border detachment found two trucks with concrete blocks and a truck crane installing them on the road.
      According to the press service of the State Border Service of Ukraine, there were several dozen armed men near the cars.
      When border guards tried to get closer to the place where the transport stopped, the unknown fired warning shots up. The demands of the border guard to stop the installation of the blocks were ignored by the armed men, the department noted.
      “Now we know about several dozens more armed unknown persons who arrived, most likely from the Lugansk region and are arranging roadblocks at the entrances to the settlement of Dmitrovka,” the State Border Service also noted. The department emphasized that the interacting units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Security Service of Ukraine were informed about this situation.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 21 May 2014 15: 45
        +9
        Yes, an adjustment for the price of gas !!! The GDP said that the price of gas is tied to the price of oil! That is, somewhere the average European price! hi
        1. Alekseev
          Alekseev 21 May 2014 15: 59
          +9
          Quote: Sid.74
          Ie somewhere the average European price!

          Yes. yes
          But, of course, today is somewhat lower.
          This, I think, is quite natural. Any large and long-term wholesale cheaper, including gas.
          And on the lamentations of the juntists about the allegedly unfair price for Ukraine, you can see that no country delivers such risks anymore - the price is high.
          1. fzr1000
            fzr1000 21 May 2014 16: 31
            0
            Earlier today, Gazprom and the China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) signed a contract to supply gas to China. The term of the agreement is designed for 30 years, the price of the contract is $ 400 billion. Based on the total amount of the contract ($ 400 billion over 30 years), if the annual deliveries amount to 38 billion cubic meters. m, the price of the Chinese contract is about $ 350 per 1 cubic meters. m, the analyst of VTB Capital Ekaterina Rodina calculated.

            Another thing is interesting - misinformation that the contract was not signed was planned, or was it the Western ... the press "worked"?
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 21 May 2014 16: 48
              +3
              Quote: fzr1000
              if the annual deliveries amount to 38 billion cubic meters. m, the price of the Chinese contract is about $ 350 per 1 cubic meters. m, the analyst of VTB Capital Ekaterina Rodina calculated.

              the price is tied to oil ...
              a drop in price in the future is not expected ...
              it’s not gas, you can’t just replace oil with oil, otherwise all polymers will have to be made from wood ... wink
            2. Sid.74
              Sid.74 21 May 2014 16: 59
              +1
              Quote: fzr1000
              Another thing is interesting - misinformation that the contract was not signed was planned, or was it the Western ... the press "worked"?

              But understand them! The Liberals were very happy that they "did not sign" and then such a "bummer"! smile RBC on the move pereobulsya! Laughter and more! By the way,Prokhorov with his maydanut sister left the Civil Platform! The Yosh-Mobile died and such a takeover befell his pocket party! I wonder how those people who voted for him in the presidential election feel! laughing
              And the criticism of everything in the world of deputy Mitrofanov was promised diplomatic immunity to decide! Look what happens!

              Yes, and a new zagagulin from the EU !!! Incorrigible ... euroclowns! fool

              Barroso: EU committed to signing Association Agreement with Georgia as soon as possible

              The European Union expects to sign association agreements with Georgia and Moldova in the summer, which provide for the complete opening of the markets of these states for European goods

              BRUSSELS, 21 May. / Corr. ITAR-TASS Denis Dubrovin /. The EU is committed to signing an association agreement with Georgia as soon as possible. This was stated by President of the European Commission Jose Manuel Barroso, opening a joint meeting of the European Commission and the Government of Georgia in Brussels.

              "The European Union will provide all-round support to the process of political, economic and judicial reforms in Georgia," he promised.

              The European Union expects to sign association agreements with Georgia and Moldova in the summer, which, in particular, provide for the complete opening of the markets of these states for European goods.

              I bet that the first Euromaidan will be held in Moldova! what
              1. Commissar of the NKVD
                Commissar of the NKVD 21 May 2014 19: 03
                +2
                Quote: Sid.74
                I bet that the first Euromaidan will be held in Moldova

                And I bet that will not happen! What to take from her? There is no gas, no oil either.
                1. rolik
                  rolik 21 May 2014 20: 01
                  +1
                  Quote: NKVD Commissioner
                  And I bet that will not happen! What to take from her? There is no gas, no oil either.

                  But there are Moldavian women)))))))))))))
                  http://nirvana.fm/video/watch?v=CQcAAFxdAAA
            3. tolian
              tolian 21 May 2014 18: 16
              +1
              Of course desa. The fifth column is calculated.
          2. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 21 May 2014 17: 12
            +1
            Quote: Alekseev
            Any large and long-term wholesale is cheaper, including gas.

            So you still have to build a pipe. It’s also expensive
            It seems Russia's investment will amount to $ 55 billion
            1. Alekseev
              Alekseev 21 May 2014 20: 27
              0
              Quote: Pilat2009
              So you still have to build a pipe. It’s also expensive

              To build a pipe is the work of many enterprises, salary, taxes to the budgets of all levels, in general, economic life.
              And "natural". These are not bubbles of greenery. yes
        2. aleks 62
          aleks 62 21 May 2014 16: 05
          +8
          .... Yes, the normal price !!!! .... The cost of how much ???? Considering that the Chinese will also take part in the construction, then gut ... Believe gut !!!
        3. baltika-18
          baltika-18 21 May 2014 16: 29
          +4
          Quote: Sid.74
          Yes, an adjustment for the price of gas !!! The GDP said that the price of gas is tied to the price of oil! That is, somewhere the average European price!
          "This statement is for those who do not understand the issue. The price of gas is always tied to the price of oil, the whole issue is in the coefficients of the formula. They just could not be agreed upon for a long time. Gazprom applies different coefficients to consumers in Europe, therefore prices for different countries fluctuate. on the domestic market. Another round of inflation? Let's wait until autumn. The situation with a trade secret on the price, as Miller said, will not last forever. Soon it will emerge anyway.
        4. Saratoga833
          Saratoga833 21 May 2014 22: 59
          0
          And why again in dollars and not in rubles?
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      3. ispaniard
        ispaniard 21 May 2014 15: 49
        +18
        Maydanutaya Junta doesn’t seem to understand what happened yet ... Which of you guys wrote earlier, that -V.V.P. has withdrawn troops from the border with Ukraine and we have Ukraine missile defense ... LI? ... Vladimir Vladimirovich then withdrawn the troops, and the DPR and LPR opened the border with Russia as promised wink Now the matter is for unofficial "Humanitarian" aid from Bratsk Russia ...
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 21 May 2014 15: 56
          +9
          Quote: ispaniard
          Which of you guys wrote there before, that - V.V.P. has withdrawn troops from the border with Ukraine and we are Ukraine ABM ... Does it?

          Oh, there were many who wrote such things! An interesting moment! Then Vladimir Tavrichesky said such a thing:

          Russian President Vladimir Putin is confident that it will be difficult for the Russian side to build relations with political forces that will come to power in Ukraine in conditions of increasing tension.

          “It will be very difficult for us to build relationships with people who come to power amid the ongoing punitive operation in southeast Ukraine and impede the work of the press”- quotes ITAR-TASS.

          He likes such streamlined formulations, what can you do !!! wink

          And here is another statement !!! By chance ... winked
          The Russian authorities decided not to send observers to the Ukrainian presidential elections scheduled for May 25, considering that at the moment they should be talking about ending the bloodshed, said Leonid Slutsky, head of the State Duma’s CIS affairs committee.
        2. aleks 62
          aleks 62 21 May 2014 16: 07
          +4
          Quote: ispaniard
          Maydanutaya Junta doesn’t seem to understand what happened yet ... Which of you guys wrote earlier, that -V.V.P. has withdrawn troops from the border with Ukraine and we have Ukraine missile defense ... LI? ... Vladimir Vladimirovich then withdrawn the troops, and the DPR and LPR opened the border with Russia as promised wink Now the matter is for unofficial "Humanitarian" aid from Bratsk Russia ...

          ..... I looked at their site alone .. So there, with a quiet pig squeal, they suck on the topic "how China did not sign a gas contract" .... They burn and burn ...
        3. lapo32
          lapo32 21 May 2014 16: 33
          +1
          Magpie on tail brought NEWS
        4. tolian
          tolian 21 May 2014 18: 23
          +2
          Somehow the bulk, Nemtsovs, Ponomarevs, Kosyanovs, Svanidzi quietly disappeared. Here are just "Echo Matzah" everything crap, everything spoils the air. Will they slam her soon?
      4. antidote
        antidote 21 May 2014 16: 24
        +4
        This is the second most important news, after signing the gas contract with China!
      5. kodxnumx
        kodxnumx 21 May 2014 16: 30
        +1
        That’s Slavnenko, that’s wonderful, the enterprises nationalize products to Russia will go from the court and money for the DNI!
    6. Wanderer H7
      Wanderer H7 21 May 2014 16: 03
      +3
      But the Chinese price was nevertheless taken ... ((((We give way in all directions (((
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 21 May 2014 16: 09
        +2
        Quote: N7 Wanderer
        But they took the Chinese price ... ((((

        The price is tied to oil as in the EU !!! Calm down ... !!! yes
      2. bubalik
        bubalik 21 May 2014 16: 09
        +5

        Wanderer Н7 (5) RU  Today, 16: 03 ↑
        But the Chinese price was nevertheless taken ... ((((We give way in all directions (((


        ,,, not knowing the full delivery conditions, it is impossible to say whether this transaction is beneficial or not ,,,, request
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      4. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 21 May 2014 16: 57
        +1
        Quote: N7 Wanderer
        But the Chinese price was nevertheless taken ... ((((We give way in all directions (((

        1. she is tied to oil
        2. and how do you like in the current situation ...
        I wouldn’t be surprised if China even bore us ...
        our positions are now extremely unprofitable, thanks to America, and the Saudis would easily replace us in this field ...

        better than nothing ...
      5. tolian
        tolian 21 May 2014 18: 28
        +2
        Wanderer, $ 55 billion that China will invest in the development of a 3-5 trillion gas field in Russia, do you not take into account?
        1. Vasek
          Vasek 21 May 2014 19: 52
          +2
          Quote: tolian
          Wanderer, $ 55 billion that China will invest in the development of a 3-5 trillion gas field in Russia, do you not take into account?

          $ 55 billion is a Russian investment. Chinese about $ 20 billion
          But all the same, a slower movement to the East is better than an incomprehensible trampling before the West.
    7. S_W_A_T_72
      S_W_A_T_72 21 May 2014 16: 09
      +3
      They will have to drown with fical .... Soon, I feel, ** they will start not childish !!!
    8. Ivan Petrovich
      Ivan Petrovich 21 May 2014 16: 13
      -6
      why rejoice then? pipe policy is fixed. We are a raw materials appendage, finally! and we will assemble the planes in China ... this was also fixed by some sort of agreement.
      1. lexxxus
        lexxxus 21 May 2014 16: 27
        +4
        why rejoice then?

        And why not rejoice, Ivan Petrovich !? I think this is only a plus for the country.
        And what is industry to develop? For this, capital is needed.
        1. Ivan Petrovich
          Ivan Petrovich 21 May 2014 16: 50
          -7
          and the capitals of the p.r.o.s. have been drowning for how many years ... for all sorts of amusements. for one Olympiad how much useful could be built only
          1. Vasek
            Vasek 21 May 2014 19: 53
            0
            Quote: Ivan Petrovich
            and the capital of the p.r.o.s. has been dying for how many years ...

            ... along with polymers ... laughing
      2. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 21 May 2014 16: 58
        +3
        Quote: Ivan Petrovich
        why rejoice then? pipe policy is fixed. We are a raw materials appendage, finally!

        the addict is not the one who sells, but the one who buys wink

        Quote: Ivan Petrovich
        and we will assemble the planes in China ... this was also fixed by some sort of agreement.

        and where will they be developed?
      3. tolian
        tolian 21 May 2014 18: 31
        +4
        Ivan Petrovich, do you not drink cognac? Does it smell like bugs? You are always so gloomy. But in vain. After all, you live in Russia, the best country on the planet.
      4. Vorodis_vA
        Vorodis_vA 21 May 2014 20: 44
        -1
        Why should we salt his gas or something. We have it for 200 years of stopuds, and if it is good to scout, then for 500 years along with shale. And there’s so much shale oil that nobody even counts and does not develop it yet. And in Siberia there are still so many fossils that they do not even plan to develop, but it would be necessary to steam someone. Freebie sir. Which Russian does not like freebies? These are not we appendages, but they are our appendages, I closed the valve and the mustache !!! write letters, dry crackers, only to dry you need gas.
    9. Letun
      Letun 21 May 2014 16: 26
      +3
      So much talk about giving up the dollar, and here again the price is in them. Well, how so?
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 21 May 2014 16: 44
        +2
        Peremoga FBI is around the corner !!!

        The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation may begin hiring employees using marijuana, department director James Comey said.

        This year, the FBI can hire 2 thousand people, most of whom will fight cybercrime. “I need to hire highly qualified specialists to fight cybercriminals, but some of these guys want to smoke weed on the way to an interview,” said James Komi, director of the department. According to him, the FBI is thinking how to update the personnel policy of the department taking into account this problem.

        Americans keep it up! good Everything will work out for you, I generally think that you need to legalize marijuana throughout the United States !!! yes
      2. MBA78
        MBA78 21 May 2014 16: 49
        +4
        give a contract in rubles
      3. greshnik80
        greshnik80 21 May 2014 17: 08
        +1
        I think in this case, the dollar is a kind of equivalent. No one said that payment will occur in them. Maybe in yuan or rubles at the exchange rate.
      4. tolian
        tolian 21 May 2014 18: 33
        +2
        And you did not pay attention to the "commercial secret" of the project. This is the main secret (how to pay) !!
      5. Vorodis_vA
        Vorodis_vA 21 May 2014 20: 47
        0
        the calculations were not in dollars, in rubles and yuan they said it was simple to proceed from the prices of the dollar, but the dollar mass would not be required, although I would not say with certainty that the currency of the calculation was not known exactly ...
    10. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 21 May 2014 16: 39
      +6
      And here is the video for the news, if you can admins attach at the top of the news.

      1. S_W_A_T_72
        S_W_A_T_72 21 May 2014 16: 48
        +3
        I probably pour too .....
      2. g1v2
        g1v2 21 May 2014 17: 18
        +5
        The GDP is already glowing, so it was not our hands that were twisted, but we agreed on something. It seems that negotiations nevertheless went according to the scenario. Honestly, such a joy of GDP and Miller says more than figures and analytical articles.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 21 May 2014 17: 23
          +2
          Quote: g1v2
          The GDP is already glowing, so it was not our hands that were twisted, but we agreed on something. It seems that negotiations nevertheless went according to the scenario. Honestly, such a joy of GDP and Miller says more than figures and analytical articles.

          Right! I’m doing it for your analytics, you can see from the video at official meetings who and what is doing, if you say, we read between the lines. Although Putin is usually restrained, and the Chinese leader also walks with a mask of restraint, but then they agreed.
          1. tolian
            tolian 21 May 2014 18: 36
            +2
            Perhaps they agreed on a decoupling from the dollar in the calculations. And this is n .... c obama.
      3. OLEGRUS
        OLEGRUS 21 May 2014 17: 34
        +1
        Cool Miller grabbed the folder, right?
        1. tolian
          tolian 21 May 2014 18: 37
          0
          And Putin almost wanted to knock over like a shot glass!
    11. Akvadra
      Akvadra 21 May 2014 16: 39
      +5
      Ju - do, translated from Japanese, is a flexible path to victory. Surrender, all events develop according to the laws of this ancient type of martial art. And this is just the beginning of the fight. All "crowns" and "sores" are still in stock. But what is our fighter !!! Unpredictable, dexterous, confident, polite, technical. Will win.
      1. Vasek
        Vasek 21 May 2014 19: 57
        0
        Quote: Akvadra
        Ju - do, translated from Japanese - a flexible way to victory

        Dexterity over brute force.
    12. Xroft
      Xroft 21 May 2014 17: 24
      -2
      I do not understand why you are happy? the contract was concluded in USD, there was so much talk about an alternative currency, avoiding addiction, switching to a new / own currency, etc. A 30-year contract that supports the dollar as a single currency .... more than talks about our plans for 30 years in advance (which Eurasian unions and an alternative currency?) So you should not rejoice here. Just more dough will be cut only now and China to drive gas.
      As a result, what actions did we take against the United States 3 months after the escalation of the conflict in Ukraine? So Putin came to China, so what? An alternative polarity and the so-called answer is not created on the basis of pay or take in dollar terms ...
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 21 May 2014 17: 58
        +1
        News from a machine gun! belay

        During a visit to Romania, the US Vice President noted that not a single Washington ally in the North Atlantic Alliance "will be left alone."

        BUCHAREST, 21 May. / ITAR-TASS /. In connection with the crisis in Ukraine, the United States and NATO will strengthen their military presence in Central and Eastern Europe, including Romania. This was stated by US Vice President Joseph Biden, after talks in Bucharest with Romanian President Traian Basescu and Prime Minister Victor Ponta.

        He also stressed that Washington assigns Romania a key role in resolving the crisis in Ukraine and supporting the European course of Moldovan leadership.

        Yatsenyuk: Kiev is ready to negotiate with Moscow only with the participation of European partners

        Now Ukraine "does not see relations with Russia on a bilateral basis," said the Prime Minister appointed by the Rada.

        KIEV, 21 May. / ITAR-TASS /. Ukraine is ready for the new Geneva talks in the format of Ukraine-USA-EU-Russia. This was announced by the Prime Minister appointed by the Verkhovna Rada Arseniy Yatsenyuk at a meeting of the third national round table in Nikolaev.

        Barroso: Georgia will not be able to join the EU

        At the same time, according to the head of the European Commission, this country should become closer to the EU

        BRUSSELS, 21 May. / Corr. ITAR-TASS Denis Dubrovin. Georgia will not be able to join the EU, but Europe must provide it with a European perspective so that this country can become closer to the European Union. This was stated by the head of the European Commission, Jose Manuel Barroso, at the final press conference after a joint meeting of the European Commission and the Georgian government in Brussels.

        "Georgia will not be able to join the EU, it is impossible," he said. "But we must do everything to bring Georgia closer to the EU, give its youth the opportunity for broader contacts with Europeans. This is what the association agreement is about."
      2. tolian
        tolian 21 May 2014 18: 41
        +3
        Xroft, the fact of the matter is that there is no obligation in the contract to pay in dollars. This is 100 percent. That is why we and the Chinese are happy. But as an equivalent, of course, the dollar fit for the deal.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 21 May 2014 20: 23
          +3
          And this is bully trade secret - what currency.
          In Kazakhstan, who just did not curse NAS for all its initiatives - SCO, CIS, EVRAZEC, CICA, CU, Congress represented. traditional. religions, etc. "Why invent all this, who needs it?" I'm not an exception. And now, at these sites, many issues are resolved or many issues are associated with these visits. Ours there signed "additional" 10 billion of green investments, Putin only this contract worth 400 billion. And there are 40 more projects.
          After building all the infrastructure in the Far East for energy, let's see how the West sings. Finally, Russia remembered that it had a two-headed eagle, it’s time to remember the eastern head. In our Republic of Kazakhstan we are already in full swing in the PRC. And the construction of this infrastructure continues. hi
      3. Vorodis_vA
        Vorodis_vA 21 May 2014 20: 51
        +1
        no one said for sure that in dollars, they might just give it away with rice, and the amount on an annualized basis is small, 13 billion, only this amount will be needed in this case for an exchange. We’ll probably buy the same amount from them, too.
    13. yushch
      yushch 22 May 2014 09: 50
      +1
      It is not necessary to unfold so immediately, but the fact that this is the third bell for the "progressive" is not to go to the fortuneteller.
  2. awg75
    awg75 21 May 2014 15: 25
    +10
    Well done !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  3. DNX1970
    DNX1970 21 May 2014 15: 26
    +15
    A breakthrough! The long-awaited! The Chinese will not impose Conchit .... and other delights!
    1. father nikon
      father nikon 21 May 2014 15: 47
      -7
      Maybe there will be no "charms", but no matter how worse troubles are imposed! I have little faith in our yellow-faced brothers.
      1. lexxxus
        lexxxus 21 May 2014 15: 58
        +3
        What is true is true. But in this situation, this is a strong move - almost a check.
        1. MBA78
          MBA78 21 May 2014 16: 53
          0
          what troubles ... the one who gives dictates the conditions ... and God give us (the Eurosites) prosperity
      2. Commissar of the NKVD
        Commissar of the NKVD 21 May 2014 19: 06
        +1
        Well, it depends on us. We will not be suckers, do not throw
  4. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 21 May 2014 15: 26
    +8
    IMHO, not so bad. If hohloukram was given a loan without a return of 256 ...
  5. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 21 May 2014 15: 27
    +11
    Well, "h.o.h.l." squinted? .....
    _______
    Ok, let me remind you:
    Vasily Ivanovich and Petka decided to fly to Ukraine. They boarded a plane, flew, but they were caught in a storm, they lost course and were eventually carried to China.
    Arrive, go out and see a whole crowd of narrow-eyed curious onlookers.
    Then Petka says:
    - Well, the "Ukrainians" squinted (censorship :-)) - haven't you seen the plane?
  6. bender8282
    bender8282 21 May 2014 15: 27
    +58
    very amused)
    1. S_W_A_T_72
      S_W_A_T_72 21 May 2014 16: 28
      +3
      And we are already tired of talking ..... We have already written about this in the toilets ...
      1. asar
        asar 21 May 2014 16: 41
        +2
        Not only in the toilets! In addition to the walls of the toilet, also on toilet paper! So that - from the whole wide Russian soul! laughing
      2. Vasek
        Vasek 21 May 2014 20: 46
        0
        Quote: S_W_A_T_72
        And we are already tired of talking ..... We have already written about this in the toilets ...

        WRITING WALLPAPERS
        Alas, friends, no wonder
        Among r @ vna we are all poets,
        Among poets - all r @ vno! bully drinks
    2. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 21 May 2014 16: 32
      +3
      laughing drinks good So that’s right, noticed!
      1. MBA78
        MBA78 21 May 2014 16: 55
        +3
        and we also refuse to buy Roshen sweets
        1. S_W_A_T_72
          S_W_A_T_72 21 May 2014 17: 28
          +2
          And what are there? Well, in the sense of is it possible? !!!
  7. Duke
    Duke 21 May 2014 15: 27
    +28
    Really good news, good news, but also VTB and Bank of China have agreed to use
    local currency, rubles and yuan bypassing the dollar.
    1. sanek45744
      sanek45744 21 May 2014 15: 31
      +8
      yes that would be really good !!!! and indeed it is necessary to abandon foreign currencies !! in Russia you have to sell everything for rubles and there is no difference where this product will then go abroad or stay in the country !!!
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 21 May 2014 16: 05
      +2
      Quote: Duke
      Really good news, good news, but also VTB and Bank of China have agreed to use
      local currency, rubles and yuan bypassing the dollar.

      It pleases, but physically what does it look like? Suppose a Chinese businessman decided to buy 100000 cubic meters of gas. Calculations in rubles so? And where to get them, that is, a Chinese businessman will buy them, but will he buy them for RMB or for dollars?
      I have always been for settlements in national currency, and the weakening of the dollar, but I thought about what to buy rubles, if it’s bad for dollars ...
      1. Andrew 447
        Andrew 447 21 May 2014 17: 56
        +2
        Rubles will buy for the RMB in China and will not pay tax on the purchase of dollars. This scheme has been in effect since 2012 of the year, only the bank must have a certificate for such operations.
      2. Sterlya
        Sterlya 21 May 2014 18: 01
        +1
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Quote: Duke
        Really good news, good news, but also VTB and Bank of China have agreed to use
        local currency, rubles and yuan bypassing the dollar.

        It pleases, but physically what does it look like? Suppose a Chinese businessman decided to buy 100000 cubic meters of gas. Calculations in rubles so? And where to get them, that is, a Chinese businessman will buy them, but will he buy them for RMB or for dollars?
        I have always been for settlements in national currency, and the weakening of the dollar, but I thought about what to buy rubles, if it’s bad for dollars ...

        As far as I know, in China there is no problem exchanging rubles to yuan and yuan to rubles
        1. Vorodis_vA
          Vorodis_vA 21 May 2014 20: 56
          0
          in China there is even a city where trade goes for rubles, and in Russia they were going to allow in one city on the border. Integration and all that ...
        2. Duke
          Duke 21 May 2014 22: 33
          0
          Quote: Sterlya
          As far as I know, in China there is no problem exchanging rubles to yuan and yuan to rubles

          We are talking about the use of national currencies in major international transactions.
      3. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 21 May 2014 21: 13
        0
        Quote: Sith Lord
        but will he buy them for yuan or for dollars?

        You can buy for any currency. All the same, all this is non-cash
  8. 341712
    341712 21 May 2014 15: 28
    +16
    I would like 400 ... But .... greed leads to poverty)))) An example behind the "big puddle" ...
    1. Orik
      Orik 21 May 2014 15: 37
      +6
      Quote: 341712
      I would like 400 ... But .... greed leads to poverty)))) An example behind the "big puddle" ...

      As far as I understand, the Chinese have removed 13% of the tax on energy imports. With 13%, there would be 396,4 ...
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 21 May 2014 16: 09
        +1
        ... This option was also discussed ... It seems that he passed ..
        1. Orik
          Orik 21 May 2014 17: 04
          +6
          It’s not right to consider only the price stupid; one must also take into account the synergistic effect of the construction of the gas transmission system.
          1. Vasek
            Vasek 21 May 2014 20: 53
            0
            Quote: Orik
            It’s not right to consider only the price stupid; one must also take into account the synergistic effect of the construction of the gas transmission system.

            Really BAM is not in vain built ?!
            Just for the sake of it all was worth it!
      2. GRune
        GRune 21 May 2014 17: 21
        +1
        We also canceled the severance tax ...
        1. Orik
          Orik 21 May 2014 19: 39
          0
          Quote: GRune
          We also canceled the severance tax ...

          MET, we, I made a mistake below, and the Chinese import. What are you talking about ?!
    2. Eugeniy_369k
      Eugeniy_369k 21 May 2014 15: 43
      +2
      Quote: 341712
      I would like 400 ... But .... greed leads to poverty))))

      Where does the price infa come from?
      Miller said that gas price for China is a trade secret.
      And with the total amount, it’s not clear whether the infrastructure was included there (the pipe is shorter laughing ) or not?
      1. Orik
        Orik 21 May 2014 15: 59
        +3
        Quote: Eugeniy_369k
        Where does the price infa come from?

        Many bukof not mastered? The price is estimated at 400 lard / (38 x 000) = 000 / 30 = 400

        For our part, we have reset export duties, I think this is enough for the construction.
        1. Vorodis_vA
          Vorodis_vA 21 May 2014 20: 58
          0
          If there are no export duties, then there are no taxes to the treasury ... this is not an ice ...
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          2. Orik
            Orik 21 May 2014 21: 13
            0
            Quote: Vorodis_vA
            If there are no export duties, then there are no taxes to the treasury ... this is not an ice ...

            To be precise, the conversation is about "According to Miller, the parties provided for the provision of preferential severance tax regimes for Russian gas that will be supplied to China." I mistakenly called the mineral extraction tax an export duty, but in addition to the mineral extraction tax, there are other taxes + development of new fields + GTS connects east and west + taxes on construction and development of territories, this is just what came to mind.
        2. 341712
          341712 23 May 2014 22: 20
          0
          Quote: Orik
          I think this is enough for the construction.

          If only ours with contracts were not thrown. The Chinese have already stuck their nose into the Kerch bridge ... The state has frozen almost all projects ... My customers, construction workers, all are in debt and out of work ... THIS IS BAD !!!! I can assume that most of the work on the construction of the GTS was "talked over" to the Chinese. So it's not bad - to work for your own advance ...
    3. bulvas
      bulvas 21 May 2014 16: 00
      +9
      Quote: 341712
      I would like 400 ...


      Gazprom still has a margin. The cost of production and supply is high, according to some estimates, there is still $ 20 - $ 30 per 1000 cubic meters. m., which can be earned by reducing costs.

      And if you cut the managerial staff ....

      =================================================
      Euronews is silent about Gazprom’s contract, they are quiet, stsuki ...
      1. andrewvlg
        andrewvlg 21 May 2014 17: 22
        0
        What are you saying? Reduce cost? Can you reduce your salary by 2 times, what would be cheaper for your Chinese comrades to sell gas ?! Cost is salaries to hard workers, engineers, investments and so on.
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 21 May 2014 17: 32
          +1
          Quote: andrewvlg
          What are you saying? Reduce cost? Can you reduce your salary by 2 times, what would be cheaper for your Chinese comrades to sell gas ?! Cost is salaries to hard workers, engineers, investments and so on.


          Cost is not only salary, although salary is also

          In addition to the categories of employees you have listed, there are also a huge number of other employees, as well as "sons", "daughters", "nephews", etc. etc. as in any large bureaucratic organization.

          There are also trips (and not all of them are necessary for the case), corporate parties, etc. etc.

          But the most important thing is not that.

          Ineffective logistics, loss of energy and materials, improper planning and duplication of activities of divisions, non-core activities .... you can list endlessly.

          There are also such weights on legs as Ukraine. After all, someone also has to pay for her expenses, late payments are also losses.

          Unfortunately, our companies, especially such huge and with such gigantic resources, pay little attention to efficiency and saving of resources.

          But these qualities come only in the case of fierce competition in the market, and Gazprom has no competitors.

          While we benefit from this (lack of competition), God willing, we will stand on our feet, then we will be engaged in efficiency

          ================================================== =====

          The gas price under the contract with China is "above $ 350" per thousand cubic meters, a source familiar with the situation told Interfax. “She's higher, higher,” he said.



          According to V. Putin, the reserves of the Kovykta and Chayandinskoye fields amount to 3 trillion cubic meters. "The total volume of recoverable resources of confirmed - 3 trillion cubic meters of gas. In fact, there are even more of them. This is a guaranteed supply for fifty years both to the external and internal markets," the president said.
          "I really want to note that during the implementation of this project it will be the largest construction project in the world for the next four years, without any exaggeration. Because only on Russian territory it will be necessary to carry out work on new fields, and they are very large," .Putin.



          Here: http://www.finmarket.ru/news/3709119

          1. TurboSloN
            TurboSloN 21 May 2014 18: 44
            0
            Over the past few years, Gazprom has been rid of all non-core assets that are not related to exploration, production, and transportation.
        2. TurboSloN
          TurboSloN 21 May 2014 18: 39
          0
          As an employee of a large gas transportation enterprise, I completely agree! Not for that in the North we hunchback so that we also have to reduce the "prime cost" ... you are already wearing shorts and we had a blizzard the other day, but at the expense of salaries, they are not as space workers as most imagine they will save money on us - no one will stay here for long.
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 21 May 2014 19: 52
            +2
            I have nothing against the salaries of direct workers, read carefully.

            It's about a completely different
            1. andrewvlg
              andrewvlg 21 May 2014 20: 32
              0
              Quote: bulvas
              I have nothing against the salaries of direct workers

              You have nothing, I understand. But our management will increase their wages, and reduce the cost through dismissal, removal from the staff and reduction of bonuses not to themselves, loved ones, but to grassroots workers. I’ll tell you, I’m not in the field of mining, but I’m EVERYWHERE. They even require the "top and middle managers" to carry out a plan to reduce PCP by "optimization". A small fry sits in his office and thinks which of the subordinates would be cut (position), so that he would not be cut.
              On the topic of gas, to sell at a price close to the cost, bullshit. If we sell to Europe at a premium of 400% of the cost.
          2. Egen
            Egen 22 May 2014 11: 54
            0
            Quote: TurboSloN
            As an employee of a large gas transmission company, I completely agree

            Colleague, I support! Gas work is not only not sugar, but also dangerous. Have you seen the release in nature? And thank God. Yes, and in offices, production workers and geologists do not stay too long, but work for two - I know how they work even in a private business by comparison. Therefore, the salaries of the people are justified. And as for the "relatives" - well, where can we do without them, it's the same all over the world, but rest assured, they simply don't keep stupid people in Gazprom - they won't take root.
            If dear hi they think that they know about Gazprom better than those who work there directly, it’s interesting from where :), this is the topic of the 1 management :)
        3. Vasek
          Vasek 21 May 2014 20: 57
          0
          Quote: andrewvlg
          Cost is salaries to hard workers, engineers, investments and so on.

          Not only. It is also the cost of inefficient logistics and management.
          Vasily is right if he talks about it.
          1. andrewvlg
            andrewvlg 21 May 2014 21: 58
            0
            Quote: Vasek
            Not only. It is also the cost of inefficient logistics and management.
            Vasily is right if he talks about it.

            I just did not list everything.
            Guys, where do you live?
            Hard workers will be laid off by "effective managers" and their relatives, and not vice versa, at least such "optimization" is carried out in 90% of cases in the Russian Federation. Or do you refer to advanced Japanese experience?
            In your opinion, in Gazprom they are full of dd.a.s.c.i, their logistics is ineffective, and their management too. How to be, the head thinks:
            But how can I find in my place more efficient for less money, and will I write out my son (daughter), who runs the logistics department in the cold, in return from Denmark?
            The only way for such log breakers to reduce costs (I'm already sick of this phrase) is to reduce hard workers and / or pay for them.
            You see, in any organization, costs should be reduced by themselves, but if FORCE is forced, then I already told you what will happen.
            So, we do not need "planned" reductions.
      2. 341712
        341712 22 May 2014 07: 49
        0
        Quote: bulvas
        And if you cut the managerial staff ....

        Well .... I think it's unlikely. "I do not want to be a gondolier, but I want to be a shareholder ..." (c)
        Well this is "new jobs" !!!
        The most interesting for me personally:
        1. Whose production will TMC (corny pipe, valves, etc.)?
        2. Who is the contractor? (China IS NOT ALLOWED to be allowed to build, since the quality, according to anyone, of G.O.V.N.O is not unfounded. The responsibility for the volumes lies with the Russian Federation)
        Moreover, he allowed one Chinese to contract - in a week they will build a village with greenhouses. Who is from the Far East - confirm. In our Urals, even chlorophos grass, like lice ...
        So everything is not clear, for me personally. Who has a different vision, please speak out.
        I would not like to "Create the world in the Star Temple" again in 7500 years.
        1. Egen
          Egen 22 May 2014 11: 56
          0
          Quote: 341712
          In a week they will build a village with greenhouses.

          ... with greenhouses, for sure! :)
  9. Afinogen
    Afinogen 21 May 2014 15: 30
    +1
    And if America grunts as predicted after 3 years and the dollars are not relevant, what price will it be?
    1. Draz
      Draz 21 May 2014 15: 34
      +2
      Just in the world it is customary to voice the price in dollars ... for now. winked

      In fact, it is interesting what currencies will be paid (yuan or rubles?)
      1. AnaBat
        AnaBat 21 May 2014 15: 36
        +5
        The price in dollars is classified as payment in national currencies probably yes let them say in RUBLES !!!!
        1. Vasek
          Vasek 21 May 2014 21: 02
          +1
          Quote: AnaBat
          The price in dollars is classified as payment in national currencies probably

          I agree. But, I think, the price is not so much secret as it indicates the absence of the dollar in pricing.
          And at the same time, another reason to make dollar printers fart.
    2. Vorodis_vA
      Vorodis_vA 21 May 2014 21: 01
      0
      the price is tied to the energy unit, the BTI seems to spit on the dollar, even in gold, but at the price of a BTI basket
  10. St.S.S.
    St.S.S. 21 May 2014 15: 30
    +1
    Our economists have not missed their own, I'm more than sure !!!! Not at the price, we will take our other contracts!
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 21 May 2014 15: 55
      +5
      I figured it looks like China’s twisted our hands after all, because the price is about $ 350. However, it has already been said that China’s consumption is growing and there will be gas contracts, and here the GDP will be recouped. Moreover, ours are trying to agree with Iran and Qatar on joint actions in the gas market, which is about 60 percent of world gas. I think in the next contract the price will already be higher, since cartel conspiracy is a thing that allows consumers to set their own terms. Plus, judging by the price, we still did not go for technology transfer. In general, the price could be higher, but the guarantee of deliveries for 30 years is still stability, and we still have time to twist our Chinese friends' hands, since they have enough pain points.
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 21 May 2014 16: 12
        +5
        .... I think right now, and India will catch up on gas ... There, the new prime minister respects Russia very much and is going to visit ...
        1. 341712
          341712 23 May 2014 22: 25
          0
          Quote: aleks 62
          .... I think right now and India will catch up on gas ...

          So already pulled herself up. See Russia 24
  11. Silkway0026
    Silkway0026 21 May 2014 15: 30
    +16
    Well, Putin, well, he shook the nerves of all the barking dogs! I knew that it was to play him up to the last, so that everything would be played, that everything was lost, that Putin “flew” and so on. Why am I telling you, you yourself have read everything, how many sarcastic and joyful comments about the "failure" were there .....
    1. Signaller
      Signaller 21 May 2014 15: 40
      +5
      I heard through the mailbox that the Chinese thought we had a bummer, but we weren’t in any way. That’s been agreed for a long time .. MET on our part, duties on theirs. Apparently agreed.
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    3. ronin
      ronin 21 May 2014 15: 47
      +11
      I read here on different horns of our 5th column, so I almost died with laughter. What they did not write there: Russia lies under China, Putin flew with a gas contract ... Now they raised another howl: they rob us, the price is miserable ... Clowns .... am
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    5. asar
      asar 21 May 2014 16: 43
      +1
      It was said, more than once - be patient!
  12. GRune
    GRune 21 May 2014 15: 31
    -5
    Cheap damn it, the cross-eyed ones knocked down the price ... Once again I am convinced that China is not our ally even once ...
    1. Silkway0026
      Silkway0026 21 May 2014 15: 37
      +10
      Those. would you pay an ally how much he asks, and would not bargain? cool ...
      1. GRune
        GRune 21 May 2014 17: 18
        0
        The allies at least do not take advantage of the difficult situation of their partner, which I did not see in this case, China simply took advantage of our problems! Moreover, the announced price of 350,8 is the estimated one, we do not know the real price since it is a "commercial secret", I'm afraid there might be no 290 ...
    2. snifer
      snifer 21 May 2014 15: 37
      +11
      it’s a trade relationship, what does the ally have to do with it or not ??? naturally, China wants cheaper.
      1. ronin
        ronin 21 May 2014 15: 50
        +5
        We in Naryan-Mar sell gas at 2000 rubles for 1000 cubes (about 62 bucks). And this price includes mineral extraction tax.
        1. GRune
          GRune 21 May 2014 17: 29
          0
          And what is the cost ??
        2. 341712
          341712 23 May 2014 22: 31
          0
          Quote: ronin
          We in Naryan-Mar sell gas at 2000 rubles for 1000 cubes (about 62 bucks). And this price includes mineral extraction tax.

          Even throwing 100-120 on transportation via the GTS we get 160-180 .. if so then ... good !!! You can retire on time))))
      2. GRune
        GRune 21 May 2014 17: 28
        +1
        Above answered why I think so. IMHO: China behaves no better than the United States during the Great Patriotic War ... And it won’t be otherwise, even though commerce is at least a war, no one except Russia is engaged in charity work.
    3. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 21 May 2014 16: 00
      +3
      Quote: GRune
      Cheap damn it, the cross-eyed ones knocked down the price ... Once again I am convinced that China is not our ally even once ...

      I agree! The fact that Russia and China agreed on the gas price and signed a contract is certainly good, and the domestic market will diversify. BUT, one shouldn't "relax" with China. In theory, they will buy from us exactly resources and they very interested in that. The phrase-turn the pipe is also significant. Europe is stupid, but so far it is temporary. You should not make significant concessions in favor of China, everything is calculated forward and, in general, the East is a delicate matter! hi
    4. 341712
      341712 23 May 2014 22: 27
      0
      Quote: GRune
      China is never our ally ...

      Allies of Russia - Army and Fleet of the Russian Federation
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 23 May 2014 22: 31
        0
        Quote: 341712
        Allies of Russia - Army and Fleet of the Russian Federation

        And Kazakhstan with Belarus in your opinion who ?!
  13. Comintern
    Comintern 21 May 2014 15: 31
    +5
    there is no doubt GDP just doesn’t ride around the world
  14. Neighbor
    Neighbor 21 May 2014 15: 31
    +2
    But why in dollars? And with the geyropa now in yuan, or what?
    1. Dmitro_d
      Dmitro_d 21 May 2014 15: 40
      +1
      Rubles and yuan !!! But gradually, so that americosia did not act very much !!!
    2. lexxxus
      lexxxus 21 May 2014 15: 45
      +3
      And Putin left it for dessert ... Now Ebama will rejoice when we carry out calculations in RMB.
  15. demon184
    demon184 21 May 2014 15: 32
    +2
    It is necessary to return the iron curtain to Berlin, for failure to comply with the agreements on the withdrawal of the land plot in 90 years
  16. marder4
    marder4 21 May 2014 15: 32
    +3
    all is more profitable than Ukraine, and even then it doesn’t even pay at a lower price
  17. Giant thought
    Giant thought 21 May 2014 15: 33
    +7
    The main thing is that the money from this contract should go into business, and not into any accumulation funds, we must develop our own industry.
    1. ks
      ks 21 May 2014 16: 03
      0
      That's it.
  18. Valter1364
    Valter1364 21 May 2014 15: 34
    +10
    Another nail in the lid of a star-striped coffin. Amen. good
  19. Signaller
    Signaller 21 May 2014 15: 35
    0
    Now, if at the exchange rate, then in general, then class, well, or RMB. And so for now, we think and wait, when ????
  20. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 21 May 2014 15: 36
    +14
    Well, I think now Russia will feel confident with "Western partners" .... Lai abruptly calmed down like))))
    1. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 21 May 2014 16: 34
      +2
      The West is not just nervous, it is in shock!
      1. S_W_A_T_72
        S_W_A_T_72 21 May 2014 16: 50
        +2
        The West is not in shock .... It is in a deep w **** ne !!!!!!!!!!!
    2. S_W_A_T_72
      S_W_A_T_72 21 May 2014 16: 51
      +2
      I will install a picture on the desktop !!!!!!!!!
  21. Grbear
    Grbear 21 May 2014 15: 36
    +9
    If we are to be consistent until the end, we must indicate the amount of the contract in ruyani, and in raccoons - in small print for reference to the owners of these raccoons, to improve indigestion. Good i repeat .
  22. Fevrrr
    Fevrrr 21 May 2014 15: 37
    +2
    Great news. As the US is now tearing and tossing. Ah, but they hoped so much that dropping Geyropa from Russian gas would make Mother very painful. And the geyropa herself received a call. Like do not even stutter about lowering gas prices. If the price for a thousand cubes in rubles also appeared ... Although at the same time the price is in ye, but maybe the calculation of what else to buy what
  23. mig31
    mig31 21 May 2014 15: 38
    +2
    A commodity is money, money is a commodity, it is very understandable, and on the collective farm market ...
  24. Wolves
    Wolves 21 May 2014 15: 40
    .
    Something Miller almost cries in the photo after signing.
    It seems that the Chinese will pay by bartering from goods that they themselves could not sell.
    1. snifer
      snifer 21 May 2014 15: 46
      +6
      maybe just podz .. hi
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 21 May 2014 16: 06
        +3
        Quote: snifer
        maybe just podz .. hi
        They talked until 4 in the morning! Here he sits in soap !!!! hi
    2. Silkway0026
      Silkway0026 21 May 2014 15: 54
      +10
      The captured photo does not mean anything. At the summit, they also tried to portray Medvedev as a drunk. So - past the checkout trolling attempt
      1. Orik
        Orik 21 May 2014 17: 06
        +3
        Quote: Silkway0026
        At the summit, they also tried to portray Medvedev as a drunk.

        Drunk oversleep, du.rak never ... wink
    3. WIN969
      WIN969 21 May 2014 15: 55
      -6
      He is really unhappy, because his obviously geyropovskih friends asked to break the deal for a fee, but nothing came of it. That means nothing will fall into his pocket.
      1. Zlodeey
        Zlodeey 21 May 2014 16: 01
        +3
        Nothing will fall into his pocket? laughing laughing laughing
    4. bomg.77
      bomg.77 21 May 2014 16: 15
      +13
      Quote: Wolves
      Something Miller almost cries in the photo after signing.
      It seems that the Chinese will pay by bartering from goods that they themselves could not sell.
      Crying .....)
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        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 21 May 2014 16: 48
          +7
          Volkhov)) First you bring a photo of a sad Miller and say that he "almost cries" I am giving a counterargument or another photo, where he laughs and your argument is a bit!
          But you don’t give up and go from facial expressions to wardrobe, I can find a photo where they will be in the same clothes, but I'm afraid you will find something else, such as a hairstyle)) If meows like a cat, walks like a cat, maybe it is cat?
          1. bomg.77
            bomg.77 21 May 2014 18: 58
            0
            Volkhov why deleted the comment? My comment hung in the air sad
            1. Wolves
              Wolves 21 May 2014 23: 53
              -2
              Quote: bomg.77
              Volkhov why deleted the comment?

              I do not delete my comments - here the administration is engaged in this, since they deleted it - that’s right, they don’t touch stupidity.
              In general, ties are an important part of the alarm, only Pike 21 and a painted cat are cooler. Here is a black tie on Medvedev that allows you to track the Virtual Fleet - tragically, but informatively.
    5. Vorodis_vA
      Vorodis_vA 21 May 2014 21: 06
      0
      slept 4 hours then 20 hours of negotiations in a row, then again only 4 hours, and after signing they shone that Putin was Miller.
    6. Egen
      Egen 22 May 2014 12: 02
      0
      talk to the people from the protocol departments of at least Gazprom, even the president - you will find out how many hours the first persons sleep. Support teams are changing and they have enough people, but there is only one leader, on trips up to half the time, and you also need to work on the spot ... I wouldn’t want to work like that - it's just on the fly :(
  25. figter
    figter 21 May 2014 15: 45
    +1
    Shale gas production in Ukraine will not save America now. Two powerful powers managed to agree, now, as the communicating vessels are not here, we will sell there. This means while we live, there will be no collapse.
    1. Makarych
      Makarych 21 May 2014 16: 48
      +1
      Why do you say bye? Lived, live and will live happily ever after
      1. Vorodis_vA
        Vorodis_vA 21 May 2014 21: 07
        0
        your words yes to god in ears !!!
    2. Egen
      Egen 22 May 2014 12: 07
      0
      Quote: figter
      Shale gas production in Ukraine will not save America now

      Why is America a shale of Ukraine? Well, yes, the field is not bad there, but it’s in the East where the Donbass is closer, and you need to invest more than a dozen billion dollars in its development, and given the existing political risks, such fools will not be found, so all this is just PR ...
  26. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 21 May 2014 15: 45
    +9
    Quote: Wolves
    Something Miller almost cries in the photo after signing.

    Yes, they conducted negotiations for three days (they just signed at 4 in the morning), the guy was just tired of such stress (Russia needed this contract like air now)
  27. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 21 May 2014 15: 49
    +5
    We’ve drowned with wood and will be. So that it doesn’t shine Transbaikalia. And you can live on the omul. And Putin is the hammer. But you should not forget about these.
  28. ambiorix
    ambiorix 21 May 2014 15: 49
    +2
    In the USA, EU and Dill today validol is snapped up. In a couple of days they will come to their senses.
  29. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 21 May 2014 15: 51
    +12
    The reaction of Psuki oh was wrong again))) Psaki to the signed contract of Russia and China .. (soon Obama will appear with a touchy face ... again they clicked on his nose) laughing
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 May 2014 17: 49
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      The reaction of Psuki oh again wrong)))

      She has eyes, as if constantly under the coke, pupils of five cents.
    2. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 21 May 2014 18: 42
      +1
      A, AGAIN THIS CASK. IT IS POSSIBLE AND LAUGHTER, BUT NON-INadequate BELIEVE IT.
    3. Sterlya
      Sterlya 21 May 2014 19: 54
      0
      The reaction of Psuki oh was wrong again))) Psaki to the signed contract of Russia and China .. (soon Obama will appear with a touchy face ... again they clicked on his nose) laughing

      Piski reaction oh wrong, Pssaki is really not very optimistic
    4. Vorodis_vA
      Vorodis_vA 21 May 2014 21: 10
      0
      his face seemed to be sitting on pesky ... cyber reptiloid of the latest generation.
  30. Not angry
    Not angry 21 May 2014 15: 53
    +3
    a little off topic
    The border with Russia is open and protected by DNR block posts.
    The State Border Service of Ukraine reports that it no longer controls the border of the DPR and Russia.
    In the Donetsk region in the Shakhtersky district today at about 14 p.m. not far from the village of Kozhevnya (00 km from the state border of Ukraine), the border detachment found two trucks with concrete blocks and a truck crane installing them on the road.

    source:
    http://www.voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/-granica-dnr-s-rossiei-otkryta-i-zasch
    is.html
    1. Silkway0026
      Silkway0026 21 May 2014 16: 00
      +6
      Life is getting better. Gas - sold, the border - opened, Obama - lowered ... life is getting better!
  31. ambiorix
    ambiorix 21 May 2014 15: 58
    +15
    I read the comments on the Echo Matzah - farts are melting, drooling indignation.
    And then Nemtsov issued in the morning: "Putin's negotiations with China have failed miserably. He is in a difficult situation."
    axaxaxaxaxax
    1. Silkway0026
      Silkway0026 21 May 2014 16: 03
      +6
      Yes, yes, yes, that’s exactly what Putin was seeking to give them all the opportunity to crap ...
    2. zoomslon
      zoomslon 21 May 2014 16: 15
      +1
      Well, our traitors will find rot in any news. I didn’t agree on the gas bill - in a difficult situation. Agreed but on Chinese conditions - in a difficult situation. Agreed on the most favorable conditions - in the most difficult situation.
      Whatever you do, they will say one thing, slander and put it in the most unpleasant light.
  32. Not angry
    Not angry 21 May 2014 16: 00
    +5
    And a little more optimism:
    Unknown partisans fired at a military convoy in the Kharkov region

    It happened yesterday at about 20.30. An informed source in the ranks of the Resistance informed Russkaya Vesna about this.

    The column of the Ukrainian military was ambushed when it advanced into the area of ​​concentration of anti-terrorist operation forces in Izyumsky district. Fire was fired from the forest belt.

    As a result of a fleeting battle, there were no casualties among the attackers. Information about the losses from Kiev is classified.

    The information is confirmed by the press service of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


    http://rusvesna.su/news/1400667337
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  34. jovanni
    jovanni 21 May 2014 16: 01
    +2
    Yes, exactly, but what does Ss ... pss ... ssaki say? I already stocked up with beer, chips, warned not to distract. I'm sitting waiting for the show.
  35. GRDS
    GRDS 21 May 2014 16: 02
    +10
    And then Ostap suffered ...))) In the good sense of the word !!!

    Putin: without a proper assessment of the events in Odessa, they may be repeated
    http://ria.ru/world/20140521/1008714063.html

    Some Ukrainian radicals have already been detained in Russia, Putin said
    http://ria.ru/incidents/20140521/1008713450.html
    Putin: The price of gas for China is tied to the market price of oil and oil products
    http://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/20140521152943.shtml#xtor=AL-[internal_traffic]--[
    rbc.ru] - [lenta_body] - [freenews]

    Well, what can I say ... Vladimir Vladimirovich - keep it up !!! Go to the bearded girl in a bearded girl in a beard basking !!!
  36. propolsky
    propolsky 21 May 2014 16: 04
    +2
    A great example of economic cooperation between two great countries! Europe and America, I suppose, thought a lot ...
  37. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 21 May 2014 16: 04
    +5
    Deceived upset! Blocked, blocked the pipe of Russia and on you! Now no overlap is enough! In China, you can’t arrange a maidan for cookies, they’ll immediately insert a banana in the ass!
    1. Andreitch
      Andreitch 21 May 2014 19: 28
      0
      Banana gently, immediately count !, or the shaft from the shovel! According to the tonsils!
  38. ando_bor
    ando_bor 21 May 2014 16: 06
    0
    Okay, and for the price, I pay 136 for gas.
  39. budizdorov
    budizdorov 21 May 2014 16: 06
    +1
    Russia can only be congratulated.
    Let the US and Europe burst with anger.
    And Ukrainian fascists can be left without gas at all.
  40. 97110
    97110 21 May 2014 16: 07
    0
    I think that the fact of signing the contract makes all other issues in terms of price and currencies not so significant. Remember UA history, how shanovoy pan Yushchenko, dreaming of drowning Russia, achieved a revision of the price of $ 50 and tied it to the price of oil. What came of it is visible to everyone. The precedent is important - the horses from the Pind ridge could not do anything, they were ignored.
  41. Alll1
    Alll1 21 May 2014 16: 14
    +1
    Quote: snifer
    maybe just podz .. hi
    They say it’s like until four in the morning yesterday butted with China, apparently it was hard.
  42. combat66
    combat66 21 May 2014 16: 14
    +2
    Yes, definitely, the news is great. Like the game of our teams, happy ....
    We must again pull the mattresses in the final. Why am I such a mattress hater ?! wink
    1. Andreitch
      Andreitch 21 May 2014 19: 30
      0
      You're not alone!
  43. aud13
    aud13 21 May 2014 16: 16
    0
    We may not know much about the situation surrounding this gas deal.
    But judging by the video of the signing of the agreement, it is clear that Putin is really happy about this event.
    Accordingly, this suggests that this is an important treaty for Russia.
    And though the price is not quite as we would like, but here something else seems to be more important. Namely, on the one hand, rely on another major buyer, and on the other, show the west that in the event of a confrontation with Russia he could lose much more.
    By the way, 38 billion cubic meters of gas is about as much as was supplied to Ukraine per year, and at about the same price.
  44. serge
    serge 21 May 2014 16: 16
    0
    Sochi 2014, Crimea, a contract with China ... A good year, however. It's only the beginning.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 21 May 2014 17: 47
      0
      Quote: serge
      Sochi 2014, Crimea, a contract with China ... A good year, however. It's only the beginning.

      It’s a very difficult year for Russia. (You’re wrong) Yes, there are certain victories .. But Kiev is captured by neo-Nazis and bombing the Southeast .. This is still outweighing everything.
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  45. ambiorix
    ambiorix 21 May 2014 16: 19
    +1
    The BBC estimates the deal between China and Russia as one of the most successful for Putin and the largest in the world economy.
  46. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 21 May 2014 16: 21
    +1
    In general, my opinion is that the absence of official information about the price, but only the general figures, from which the alleged price of 350,8 is obtained, is actually a very tactical move! And it's not a secret from their people, ala national treasure and the price is a secret, everything is trickier here! Calm down, no one will give gas for nothing especially in such a long term, they would have given it a long time ago. There’s another idea. What will the EU say now? refuse gas? what other crazy options are on the agenda?
  47. lis-ik
    lis-ik 21 May 2014 16: 23
    +9
    Quote: MIKHAN
    The reaction of Psuki oh was wrong again))) Psaki to the signed contract of Russia and China .. (soon Obama will appear with a touchy face ... again they clicked on his nose) laughing

    This photo of Psaki is simply touching, she, like a stupid dog, bowed her head to the side and tries to understand what they are talking to or hang like an unfinished robot.
    1. S_W_A_T_72
      S_W_A_T_72 21 May 2014 16: 53
      +3
      Yes, she was just blown away !!!!
    2. MBA78
      MBA78 21 May 2014 17: 12
      +1
      UTB Kiporg psaka
    3. Stanislas
      Stanislas 21 May 2014 17: 28
      0
      Quote: lis-ik
      she, like a stupid dog, bowed her head to the side and tries to understand what they are talking about
      Attempts to imitate the face of intense work of thought.
    4. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 21 May 2014 17: 50
      0
      Yes, she simply "digests" the contract between Russia and China ...
      He doesn’t know which pipe to “put” his “shale” gas into Europe, so he is “pushing” ....
  48. Chaika
    Chaika 21 May 2014 16: 23
    +1
    Abame hit below the belt !!!!!
    1. MBA78
      MBA78 21 May 2014 17: 13
      0
      we will soon hear a bell ringing
  49. Yurich
    Yurich 21 May 2014 16: 25
    +1
    If my memory serves me right, then Putin, I don’t remember the year of the trip, during a visit to China, announced that we will trade with China in national currencies
  50. Evgeny_Lev
    Evgeny_Lev 21 May 2014 16: 26
    0
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Quote: Duke
    Really good news, good news, but also VTB and Bank of China have agreed to use
    local currency, rubles and yuan bypassing the dollar.

    It pleases, but physically what does it look like? Suppose a Chinese businessman decided to buy 100000 cubic meters of gas. Calculations in rubles so? And where to get them, that is, a Chinese businessman will buy them, but will he buy them for RMB or for dollars?
    I have always been for settlements in national currency, and the weakening of the dollar, but I thought about what to buy rubles, if it’s bad for dollars ...

    Why can't a businessman buy rubles in his bank? If before that, the banks agreed that they exchange currencies in calculating the ratio of mutual trade between the two countries?
    1. nikcris
      nikcris 21 May 2014 17: 24
      0
      Wherever there are Russian in bulk, the ruble is quoted on a par with local currency - the law of the free market in action. If you can freely buy a service product per ruble, then how does it differ from the Swiss franc?
      PS I know why - it is difficult to speculate on it.