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Kiev may stop supporting "Satan"

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According to the "RT in Russian"With reference to The Daily Beast, one of the American congressmen proposed a symmetrical response to Russia's statement about stopping the supply of rocket engines to the United States. In his opinion, it is necessary to begin negotiations with the Ukrainian authorities on blocking cooperation with the Ukrainian design bureau Yuzhnoye, which helps in serving the Russian intercontinental ballistic missiles RS-20 Satan.


Republican Mike Rogers, who heads the subcommittee of the armed forces in the US House of Representatives, is going to make appropriate amendments to the annual draft budget of the Pentagon.

According to Ukrainian analysts, only 40 missiles from 600, which are in service with the Strategic Missile Forces of the Russian Federation, are produced in Russia.

“This is a solid benefit for the Ukrainian enterprise, and it basically exists on the money that Russia pays for providing warranty supervision of the Voyevoda missile system. Economic ties are valuable, whoever comes to power in Ukraine. And I do not foresee that this intergovernmental agreement will be denounced, ”said Victor Yesin, the former chief of the General Staff of the Strategic Missile Forces in February.

However, as Rogers notes, it is necessary to begin negotiations on ending the activities of the Yuzhnoye design office and any other Ukrainian organizations that support the military or military-industrial base of the Russian Federation, while Russia violates its obligations under the Budapest Memorandum by illegally occupying Ukrainian territory and supporting groups that incite violence and incite movement for secession from Ukraine. ”

According to Esin, if cooperation between Russia and Ukraine is discontinued, the operation of the RS-20 missiles will “cause difficulties”, since the technical specifications and detailed plans are in the Ukrainian design bureau.

If the Rogers amendments are approved, then Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel will be given 30 days to report to Congress on "US plans to end Ukrainian cooperation with Russia on intercontinental ballistic missiles", as well as "recommendations on how the United States and its allies can benefit from the capabilities of the design bureau Yuzhnoye, notes The Daily Beast.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 21 May 2014 10: 11
    +57

    If Rogers' amendments are approved, then Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel will be given 30 days to submit to Congress a report on "US plans to end Ukrainian cooperation with Russia

    I’m figing from this square laughing It is necessary to conduct negotiations on gas and its payment directly with the United States, and not intermediaries from Ukraine.
    1. vsoltan
      vsoltan 21 May 2014 10: 14
      +18
      Remark: negotiations on the purchase of Ukrainian fat should also be decided with mattresses laughing
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 21 May 2014 10: 28
        +22
        The state of Ukraine is direct ... they don’t even ask the Kiev junta .. Damn it! angry
        1. sscha
          sscha 21 May 2014 10: 37
          +6
          It is easy to impose sanctions at the expense of ukrov! And then completely cover the "Yuzhnoye"! For lack of demand for products. Yankee! You better look back at your garden! Your "cabbage" soon caterpillars - and even then they will not eat !!! wink hi
          1. vadimN
            vadimN 21 May 2014 11: 06
            +15
            Quote: sscha
            And then completely cover the "Yuzhnoye"! For lack of demand for products


            Shouldn't the Russian government be offered to transport "Yuzhnoye" in full force to Russia ..., to one of the science cities, in order to give this word real content? It is necessary to buy up intelligence all over the world - it always pays off ... to give people stable jobs, housing, guarantees and insurance ... This is differently more useful and more real than the mythical Rusnano and Skolkovo ...
            1. Irokez
              Irokez 21 May 2014 12: 54
              +3
              I even know where. To Crimea. There and work there and relax on the beaches.
            2. Alekseev
              Alekseev 21 May 2014 16: 14
              0
              Quote: vadimN
              Shouldn't the Russian government be offered to transport the entire Yuzhnoye to Russia.

              It seems that everyone who is really needed from the design bureau received such proposals, and the necessary documentation, probably for so many years of operation.
              And the fact that it is beneficial for Americans to steal this enterprise is truth that does not require proof.
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        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 May 2014 11: 27
          0
          Quote: MIKHAN
          The Kiev junta is not even asked ..

          Well, first of all, why and then, who is there to ask request
      2. Aleksandr
        Aleksandr 21 May 2014 10: 28
        +9
        If this stupidity passes, the Kharkov region will join Russia very quickly. You just need to spread the news faster
        1. atarix
          atarix 21 May 2014 10: 36
          +4
          will join.
          no other way.
          missiles need to be serviced.
        2. Tamparu
          Tamparu 21 May 2014 11: 01
          +5
          Quote: Aleksandr

          If this stupidity passes, the Kharkov region will join Russia very quickly. You just need to spread the news faster


          KB "Yuzhnoye" is the Dnepropetrovsk region, Pavlograd, 40 km from Dnepropetrovsk towards Donetsk. (Estate of Beni Kolomoisky). It will be difficult to solve something here without solving the question about Bene.
          So everything is much more complicated ... hi
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 21 May 2014 11: 13
            +3
            It will be difficult to solve something here without resolving the issue of Ben.

            But Benny didn’t go too far? Look at his last tricks. But it can end up like a beat. Suicide with three headshots.
            1. jagdpanzer
              jagdpanzer 21 May 2014 13: 05
              0
              and then five times in my heart just in case)
            2. wasjasibirjac
              wasjasibirjac 21 May 2014 15: 41
              0
              Quote: Wedmak
              Suicide with three headshots.
              not true - suicide with 3 shots at s.r.a.s.k. for Beni’s brain is there: a Jew who financed anti-Semites survived.
          2. Irokez
            Irokez 21 May 2014 12: 55
            +1
            Quote: TampaRU
            It will be difficult to solve something here without resolving the issue of Ben.

            Well, with Beni you can always agree on a lot of options from money to sending to other dimensions.
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 21 May 2014 13: 12
              0
              And you are a diplomat. smile
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            3. Tamparu
              Tamparu 21 May 2014 13: 15
              +1
              Quote: Irokez

              Quote: TampaRU
              It will be difficult to solve something here without resolving the issue of Ben.

              Well, with Beni you can always agree on a lot of options from money to sending to other dimensions.


              Benny has a lot of money and he will not take it. Too smart. When a person has a lot of money, he needs a new "adrenaline", so to speak, "a new motivator for his existence." At the moment it is power. Now he has it to the fullest, but he wants even more. Therefore, there is only one conclusion ... "sartier" ..

              PS They say that he is now in Odessa-mom. Flushed away so as not to fill up.
          3. Eragon
            Eragon 21 May 2014 13: 11
            +1
            Quote: TampaRU
            KB "Yuzhnoye" is the Dnepropetrovsk region, Pavlograd, 40 km from Dnepropetrovsk towards Donetsk. (Estate of Beni Kolomoisky). It will be difficult to solve something here without solving the question about Bene.


            Second connoisseur. KB "Yuzhnoye" is located in Dnepropetrovsk itself. Through the fence - the Yuzhny Machine-Building Plant, which supposedly produces (produced) the DMZ tractor, but in reality - the technical part of the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, which produces prototypes. Get there by tram # 15. Ending station.
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            2. Tamparu
              Tamparu 21 May 2014 13: 21
              0
              Quote: Eragon


              Second connoisseur. KB "Yuzhnoye" is located in Dnepropetrovsk itself. Through the fence - the Yuzhny Machine-Building Plant, which supposedly produces (produced) the DMZ tractor, but in reality - the technical part of the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, which produces prototypes. Get there by tram # 15. Ending station.


              Prototypes ... Serial production and, for sure, all the specialists who service the released "products" are located in Pavlograd.
          4. Nonik
            Nonik 21 May 2014 14: 00
            0
            Quote: TampaRU
            KB "Yuzhnoe" is the Dnepropetrovsk region, Pavlograd, 40 km from Dnepropetrovsk towards Donetsk. (Fiefdom of Beni Kolomoisky). It will be difficult to solve something here without solving the question about Bene. So it's much more complicated ...

            Benny dumped in Odessa, so Dnepropetrovsk is now not quite his estate.
      3. lelikas
        lelikas 21 May 2014 10: 42
        +1
        Kiev may stop supporting "Satan"
        -
        Satan is urgently looking for new sponsors ....
      4. Vladimir 23rus
        Vladimir 23rus 21 May 2014 15: 16
        0
        There are no fats for export laughing 60% in the Ugric region themselves are buying. were homedoned.
    2. SibRUS
      SibRUS 21 May 2014 10: 29
      +26
      Comments on the Ukrainian site for this news:
      "- Russia will have to send all its" Voevods "left without service under its own power to the US. Is this what the Americans are trying to achieve?
      - I remembered from the instructions to the "Fly": "... it is not provided to return the launch device from the combat position to the stowed position. The rules prescribe simply to fire the cocked, but not used RPG-18 towards the enemy."))) "
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 21 May 2014 10: 35
        +3
        Yes, about the "Flies" killed ... If you do the same with the Voivods ... Even if you remove the nuclear filling, they say, hold on, do not choke. Will they be able to knock down the blanks?
        1. mamont5
          mamont5 21 May 2014 10: 50
          +5
          Quote: Wedmak
          Yes, about the "Flies" killed ... If you do the same with the Voivods ... Even if you remove the nuclear filling, they say, hold on, do not choke. Will they be able to knock down the blanks?


          If to start up, then not with pigs. The howl will still rise, so at least it will be less.
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 21 May 2014 10: 55
            +3
            I have not dug up the bunker yet, and there is no food supply. Somehow I’m not hunting yet to feel the Fallout in real life.
            1. engineer74
              engineer74 21 May 2014 11: 13
              0
              Quote: Wedmak
              I have not dug up the bunker yet, and there is no food supply. Somehow I’m not hunting yet to feel the Fallout in real life.


              "And the living will envy the dead." - Do you need it? wink
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 21 May 2014 11: 28
                +3
                I do not know, did not compare. smile But we, in Astrakhan, have nothing to spend on us a whole warhead. So there is a chance to survive. How long ... the fish should not suffer, the Volga peals too.
                No, you probably need to urgently buy a bow or crossbow (so that it is not spent on cartridges) and go learning to hunt with them. wink
                1. engineer74
                  engineer74 21 May 2014 11: 53
                  +3
                  Quote: Wedmak
                  How long ... the fish should not suffer, the Volga peals too.

                  Here from this fish and it is necessary to hide in bunkers ... laughing
                  after the atomic winter, the atomic spring came.
                  animals arrived.
                  the birds came running.
                  the first hair climbed out of the ground ...
                  http://bash.im/index?text=%EF%F0%E8%EB%E5%F2%E5%EB%E8+%E7%E2%E5%F0%E8
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 21 May 2014 11: 29
              0
              Quote: Wedmak
              I haven’t dug up the bunker yet,

              I have an excellent collector for you, light, hot and cold water, a sunroof, almost like in your car laughing Negotiable price, hurry the offer is limited winked
      2. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
        Mihaylo Tishayshiy 21 May 2014 10: 43
        +2
        Quote: SibRUS
        Comments on the Ukrainian site for this news:
        "- Russia will have to send all its" Voevods "left without service under its own power to the US. Is this what the Americans are trying to achieve?
        - I remembered from the instructions to the "Fly": "... it is not provided to return the launch device from the combat position to the stowed position. The rules prescribe simply to fire the cocked, but not used RPG-18 towards the enemy."))) "

        Bravo, zema !!! 100 +++ !!!
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    4. woron333444
      woron333444 21 May 2014 10: 36
      +3
      If you want to get blue fuel, then let them build crematoriums and burn their blue ones
    5. AIRO
      AIRO 21 May 2014 12: 10
      +1
      I completely agree with you ... this gasket is not needed for negotiations
    6. Thompson
      Thompson 21 May 2014 13: 10
      +2
      If the amendments are approved in the United States, then the troops introduced will be approved by us. And these enterprises will be purely nashensky !!! We got along with Crimea and Sevastopol and here you jump!
  2. Lk17619
    Lk17619 21 May 2014 10: 12
    +2
    Let's hope that the Kharkov region and Kharkov will already be part of the Russian Federation. And the sanctions will again "roll" to nothing.
  3. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 21 May 2014 10: 13
    +24
    you just need to drag all the necessary specialists with the documentation to the Yuzhny Design Bureau to Russia and that's it ... if the truth hasn't been dragged
    1. jayich
      jayich 21 May 2014 10: 16
      +10
      Yeah, along with the factory and the surrounding area.
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 21 May 2014 11: 17
        +3
        Quote: jayich
        Yeah, along with the factory and the surrounding area.

        Crimeans did, however ... what
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    3. Wedmak
      Wedmak 21 May 2014 10: 19
      +1
      Yes, everything’s already going to that ... It’s still the new authorities who haven’t thought up the design bureau for themselves, otherwise they can simply stop the work of the design bureau from a small mind. To the detriment of Russia, they believe.
      PS
      I hope they do not read this.
    4. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 21 May 2014 10: 22
      +1
      kostyan77708
      you just need to drag all the necessary specialists with the documentation to the Yuzhny Design Bureau to Russia and that's it ... if the truth hasn't been dragged

      And what can not be withdrawn ... "Bukh"! hi
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    6. Good cat
      Good cat 21 May 2014 10: 30
      +1
      Yes, I think the documentation is already there, there was an article here on this topic, they said that there would be difficulties, but they would not be able to do it critically. And Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, maybe for the sake of the Americans and will not?
    7. xenod55
      xenod55 21 May 2014 10: 44
      +1
      Nobody "dragged" them, they themselves have already "partially" moved and are working in Russia.
    8. Evgeniy1
      Evgeniy1 21 May 2014 10: 54
      0
      kostyan77708


      ".. you just have to drag all the necessary specialists with documentation to Russia from the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau and that's it ... if the truth hasn't been dragged ... 2
      CORRECTLY, leave the buildings and structures in them trade and store potatoes.
    9. Evgeniy1
      Evgeniy1 21 May 2014 10: 54
      0
      kostyan77708


      ".. you just have to drag all the necessary specialists with documentation to Russia from the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau and that's it ... if the truth hasn't been dragged ... 2
      CORRECTLY, leave the buildings and structures in them trade and store potatoes.
    10. marder4
      marder4 21 May 2014 11: 17
      0
      reasonable proposal, let's hope that we have already dragged ...
  4. Peter Timofeev
    Peter Timofeev 21 May 2014 10: 13
    +12
    All engineers involved in "Voevoda" should be urgently equipped in Russia.
    1. chastener
      chastener 21 May 2014 10: 17
      +1
      I think they’ve been here a long time. hi
    2. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 21 May 2014 10: 28
      +2
      Quote: Petr Timofeev
      All engineers involved in "Voevoda" should be urgently equipped in Russia.

      I agree. I do not mind. Start arranging people. I hope for a speedy result 21.05.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX.
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 21 May 2014 10: 55
        +3
        .... Yes, this is the Yuzhnoye design bureau .... They scared the naked hedgehog ... At one time, the IL-76 was produced at the Tashkent aircraft plant, and now production at Aviastar has been set up .... I think. , then "Satan" will be serviced and produced at the enterprises of the Russian Federation ... Moreover, the lion's share of components for "Satan" are produced in the Russian Federation ...
        1. avt
          avt 21 May 2014 11: 33
          +1
          Quote: aleks 62
          ..Yes, this is the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau .... They scared the naked hedgehog ... At one time, the IL-76 was produced at the Tashkent aircraft plant, and now production at Aviastar has been set up ....

          That's right. Because of this, Chinese and Jordanian orders were thwarted, and production was transferred, and the plant in Uzbekistan was covered with a copper basin, like Korean cars were going to be assembled there.
          Quote: aleks 62
          ..I think. If necessary, then "Satan" will be served and produced at the enterprises of the Russian Federation ...
          They do not produce any more, they serve with us, "Yuzhmash" seems to be like the designer's supervision and gives a guarantee for the prolongation of operation, well, it helps to carry out commercial launches for those who are removed from duty. Perhaps some of the components they do. Yes, also "Zenith" and ,, Sea launch "for which Korolev took the leadership in the ass, and Khimki on" Lavochkin "is on its way, but that's another story. In the presence of a lightweight version of 7ki and "Angara" from the absence of "Zenith" it is neither hot nor cold. But the Kazakhs are sad - they at Zenit thought to enter the club of space powers. A sad fate awaits Yuzhmash - they will finish off, the given US application is about this. But let Dnepropetrovsk residents have a headache.
  5. MOISEY
    MOISEY 21 May 2014 10: 14
    +15
    I look at the United States already in their own kitchen dispose of Ukrainian enterprises.
    1. Berkut-UA
      Berkut-UA 21 May 2014 12: 02
      +1
      Quote: MOISEY
      I look at the United States already in their own kitchen dispose of Ukrainian enterprises.


      So after all, everyone saw that Biden is the Ukrainian president.
      And the fact that they will choose will simply fulfill the duties of the president in the absence of Biden.
  6. jovanni
    jovanni 21 May 2014 10: 15
    +8
    Well, there are two options then ... Either urgently separate the South-East together with enterprises and design bureaus, or launch all of these missiles. Away. Until the warranty has expired.
  7. UFO
    UFO 21 May 2014 10: 15
    +6
    So it is necessary to send "Satan" to the "parents" on their own. yes
    Until it crumbled with us. laughing
  8. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 21 May 2014 10: 16
    +2
    So it is necessary to remove the necessary enterprises from the jurisdiction of Ukraine / USA. If not everything is stolen there.
  9. Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov 21 May 2014 10: 17
    +8
    Hmm ... And this country still proudly calls itself "nezalezhnoy". In fact, it says here that the United States will stop cooperation between Ukraine and Russia, and not vice versa. Well, that comrades are Ukrainians, for which they fought, and ran into it. You were so eager for West, get it and sign. As they do not understand that the design bureau will most likely cease to exist without this, at such a rate the remnants of the Ukrainian industry will finally disappear into oblivion.
    1. Aleksandr65
      Aleksandr65 21 May 2014 12: 45
      0
      A familiar engineer from the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, an ardent Ukrainian, was visiting. Travels to Russia to service missiles. According to him, out of 120 workers, 000 remain. Everything is rapidly stopping and further, there are huge cities of workshops, empty and ruined.
      1. Anton Gavrilov
        Anton Gavrilov 22 May 2014 10: 01
        0
        Everything is so bad, but now when they finally become American vassals, everything will fall apart at the end.
  10. Wiruz
    Wiruz 21 May 2014 10: 17
    0
    recommendations on how the United States and its allies can benefit from the capabilities of the South Design Bureau

    But is this senator not afraid that the secret of these missiles will fly to America soon? Under its own power laughing
  11. Wedmak
    Wedmak 21 May 2014 10: 17
    +1
    In his opinion, it is necessary to begin negotiations with the Ukrainian authorities on blocking cooperation with Russia of the Ukrainian design bureau Yuzhnoye, which helps in servicing the Russian intercontinental ballistic missiles RS-20 Satan

    How the United States loves to impose sanctions with the wrong hands ... And how much they love to be positive, they don’t care that rocket science in Ukraine will be bent, because having stopped supporting the Voivode, Ukraine may also receive its sanctions from Russia. And of course, the tidbit is to destroy the Governor.
  12. JoylyRoger
    JoylyRoger 21 May 2014 10: 18
    +2
    for sure, seeing an increasingly secure environment, they’ve already come up with something to replace or create their own technology
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 21 May 2014 10: 23
      +4
      A new heavy rocket is already under development. But even if they do not worry, the destruction of the Yuzhnoye design bureau will not destroy the missiles themselves. Such things from another state are not controlled. Even with documentation (which I believe has been in the US for a long time).
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 21 May 2014 10: 40
        0
        A new heavy rocket is already under development.

        What a news! Can you be more specific?
        1. AK-74-1
          AK-74-1 21 May 2014 10: 57
          +6
          Can! I suggest you come with documents and personal belongings to the building at:
          Moscow, Bolshaya Lubyanka St., house 1 / 3.
          You are already waiting. hi
        2. Wedmak
          Wedmak 21 May 2014 11: 01
          +2
          What a news! Can you be more specific?

          So the news is probably half a year. wink
          Actually this is where the news ends. They also announced the development of a new BZHRK. With the same details.
  13. I am
    I am 21 May 2014 10: 19
    +8
    Probably about negotiations, any, you need to forget. All Americans will try to solve through the knee. And we need to quit garbage and start thinking about Russia, i.e. see ALL Western partners. ALL. and Ukrainian in the first place. shut off the gas valve now. demand payment of all debts, ALL !!! And only then can the gas supply be resumed, although ... but we ourselves do not need gas and oil ??? It may be enough parasites to sell it all, our descendants will have nothing left. And developing and Restoring its (OWN !!!) industry, producing its cars, planes, machine tools and everything else. And the most important thing is to return the concept of durable goods, and not as one thing is now conspicuous, throw away the phone in a year, change the car in three, TVs, generally I am silent about the life of the matrix of 6-8 thousand hours like an electric bulb. And to all who are against showing live the test of something heavy at some kind of nuclear test site, let them think. And, yes, I forgot, the terrorists, pid *** sy ... and other scum, return the execution, I think people will support.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 21 May 2014 10: 24
      +6
      In fact, a long-term development program for Russia. I fully support.
  14. fima
    fima 21 May 2014 10: 19
    +2
    if they do this, then who the Americans will feed the workers too. this is another region that wants independence from the outskirts.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 21 May 2014 10: 39
      +2
      And this is the essence of Eurointegration, which Amer specialists want so much. Take Ukraine to the EU, NATO. To break all its ties with the Russian Federation - millions of unemployed, millions of hungry people, and here, like the light in the window, a loan from the IMF, which, paradoxically, will only aggravate the economic crisis in the country. And then the Yankees have freedom of action, if you want to put tomahawks near Kharkov - please, you want to transfer the 6th US fleet to the Black Sea - no problem. But Iran doesn’t want to attack Poland what
  15. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 21 May 2014 10: 21
    +1
    And we have that, in addition to Satan, they have nothing else, or they have the next argument in sanctions, while other sanctions did not give any results. After the imposition of sanctions on Satan, the Yuzhny design bureau must close everything, put its teeth on the shelf and go in transitions ask for alms.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 21 May 2014 10: 32
      +2
      And we have that besides Satan there is nothing more

      Such missiles as "Satan", although more correctly "Voevoda", no longer exist. Poplar and Yars on its background look like SVD against the background of ASVK. And the Yankees have been chasing the secret of this rocket for a long time. It is impossible to allow leakage of the Voevoda's performance characteristics to the West. The time will come - we will send them to Zapal ourselves.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 21 May 2014 10: 37
        +4
        Such missiles as "Satan", although more correctly "Voevoda", no longer exist.

        It will be soon.
        Poplar and Yars against its background look like SVD against the background of ASVK.

        You exaggerated it.
        And the Yankees have long been chasing the secret of this rocket. We must not allow the leakage of performance characteristics of the Voivode to the West.

        Yes, everything has already been sold to us.
        1. Cormorants
          Cormorants 21 May 2014 11: 08
          +1
          Send special forces, take out documentation and people to the territory of Russia.
          1. Tamparu
            Tamparu 21 May 2014 11: 14
            +1
            Quote: Cormorants

            Send special forces, take out documentation and people to the territory of Russia.

            In principle, you can. From Donetsk to Pavlograd about 140 km (the location of the Yuzhnoye design bureau). There are a lot of secondary roads. There are even roads from Slavyansk and Kramatorsk (about 200 km). The question is, how many vehicles do you need to export documents? And the Yuzhmash plant is a whole city, both on the surface and underground .... It's not that simple ...
  16. Sterlya
    Sterlya 21 May 2014 10: 22
    +2
    There is already a threat to Russia's national security. It’s time to transfer the entire design bureau to the territory of Russia. or transfer the territory of Russia to the design bureau.
    And it is striking that all the documentation is still in this unpredictable dill. (or not already?)
  17. Zverboy
    Zverboy 21 May 2014 10: 24
    +1
    Well, the need will force or release troops in key Ukrainian cities or wait a long time until the stupidity and hopes of the Ukrainian people for geyropa are exhausted.
  18. teron
    teron 21 May 2014 10: 25
    +3
    That is, the decision on cooperation between Ukraine and Russia will be made by the US Secretary of Defense? Well, everything is clear in Russia - Mordor, totalitarianism, Putin, Stalin and imperial identity. But in the freest country in the world ?! The light of democracy and freedom in the world decides that can easily control the foreign policy of another state? And absolutely without hiding about it declares. Hey, Ukrainians - this is freedom, this is independence! Where to us, in barbarian Russia ...
  19. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 21 May 2014 10: 25
    +2
    But interesting!
    Considering the interests of national security, the secrecy of the available documentation and prototypes, and so on .... Russia, can introduce "Polite people" into the territory of this design bureau?
  20. Andersen68
    Andersen68 21 May 2014 10: 26
    +1
    Yes, our people have already taken something to this "counteraction". Behind the scenes. Not really fools in the Kremlin.
  21. mig31
    mig31 21 May 2014 10: 29
    0
    It was hard to imagine that Ukraine would immediately slide down to the level of a banana republic, hence the problems, the solution, I think, has already been made, military secret ...
  22. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 21 May 2014 10: 31
    0
    We'll have to send "Voevoda" for service on their own to the one who offered it ... Let them serve themselves! laughing
  23. Altona
    Altona 21 May 2014 10: 31
    +1
    I kind of have two questions ... First, what will the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau itself do without contracts from Russia? The second question is that the RS-20 "Satan" rocket is, in principle, morally outdated, and the question of replacing it has long been raised ... So maybe it's time to start replacing missiles of this type?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 21 May 2014 10: 39
      +1
      So maybe it's time to start replacing missiles of this type?

      Already started designing.
  24. yulka2980
    yulka2980 21 May 2014 10: 32
    +1
    I hope Putin has foreseen this. It is necessary for their engineers to offer housing, a good salary, and when the right people are already in the territory of the Russian Federation to blow up this factory to hell with their grandmother! am
  25. Alex_sw4
    Alex_sw4 21 May 2014 10: 33
    +1
    From now on, when we write about Ukraine, we should call it: USA, state of Ukraine.
  26. ks
    ks 21 May 2014 10: 34
    0
    Dill only with Russia is independent, and with a mattress
  27. sergej591910
    sergej591910 21 May 2014 10: 35
    0
    Yeah ... "The headless horseman is not so terrible, it's scary when he is at the head of the squadron!" (M. Reed, from unpublished)
  28. Russ69
    Russ69 21 May 2014 10: 35
    +2
    Help the militia with weapons, equipment, specialists, and after a while, a referendum will be held in Dnepropetrovsk. Then the questions about "Satan" will be removed ...
    It is time already, to begin to provide visible support to the republics. Seeing real support, the people will become more active, and now people have a feeling that they were left alone, alone with the junta.
  29. Andrew 447
    Andrew 447 21 May 2014 10: 38
    +5
    Colleagues! Himself not a specialist in Strategic Missile Forces. But even on our forum, gurus on this topic wrote that there are no problems without Ukraine with the Voevoda service. Everything you need is in warehouses with a margin of up to 2026+ technical documentation and service professionals too. Just in the service book. laughing there will be no kb South stamp.
  30. buzer
    buzer 21 May 2014 10: 38
    0
    Kiev finally became a trained dog of the White House ...
  31. StepanovTDSM
    StepanovTDSM 21 May 2014 10: 38
    +1
    The budget of Ukraine is already empty, the Yankees will replenish it yes? Let all contracts with Russia be canceled. What will the Ukrainian people feed. The more such attacks, the closer the end of Ukraine as a separate state.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 21 May 2014 10: 43
      +1
      the closer the end of Ukraine as a separate state.

      Ukraine as a state no longer exists. All that remains is dolls and a cardboard house.
  32. koksalek
    koksalek 21 May 2014 10: 39
    +1
    They (USA) do not yet indicate how to breathe in Ukraine and how many times? Very strange. puppets themselves can’t do anything
  33. Committee
    Committee 21 May 2014 10: 40
    0
    Everything needs to be done at home, then there will be no problems.
  34. sabakina
    sabakina 21 May 2014 10: 44
    +2
    It seems to me that a similar scenario has been worked out for a long time during the stay of GDP in power, and I think that everything is not as scary as it is imagined in a large puddle.
  35. valday
    valday 21 May 2014 10: 44
    0
    Yes, take all the specialists from this design bureau to Russia, let them live and serve here!
  36. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 21 May 2014 10: 47
    +2
    So the saloons were played out, the mattresses decide for them. Independent, damn it, that is, nothing depends on them
  37. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 21 May 2014 10: 49
    0
    I am sure that the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau has not had any valuable and secret documents younger than 23 years old for a long time.
    Specialists needed by Russia can easily be invited to Russia for permanent residence, leaving Bandera empty shops.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 21 May 2014 10: 56
      0
      But they did not remake the rocket for sea launch? The rumble was called in my opinion.
      1. The comment was deleted.
  38. Dezinto
    Dezinto 21 May 2014 10: 49
    +1
    51 state Ukraine.

    Damn, and that's not good, that's all. Son Biden set. Ukrainian enterprises are not related to gas and coal, etc., the riches of the earth, they do not dig into it. Americans never leave anything besides wells and dead cities!

    They simply devastate the earth, leave a bunch of slaves in the country and pump the bowels! All! That is the whole goal. There is no desire on their part to create anything!
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 21 May 2014 11: 27
      0
      Colonial Anglo-Saxon politics, however.
      http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/679927/post269697932/
      Margaret Thatcher, speaking publicly 10 years ago and specifying US policy towards Russia, dropped a cryptic phrase:

      «according to the international community, it is economically feasible to leave 15 million people living in Russia».
  39. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 21 May 2014 10: 52
    0
    Well, send them to Washington. Let there "serve" wassat
  40. individual
    individual 21 May 2014 10: 57
    +1
    Well, if the Yuzhnoye design bureau stops servicing, then it’s time to send the RS-20 self-propelled gun to test the Satan's performance. wassat
  41. siberalt
    siberalt 21 May 2014 11: 01
    +1
    Well, what about "support" is predictable. Ukrainian specialists will not be left without work. They will move to Russia for permanent residence. Putin has already allocated money for this and for new defense enterprises. Enough "sculpting" on old equipment and old technologies.
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 21 May 2014 11: 21
      0
      and detail?
  42. Palych9999
    Palych9999 21 May 2014 11: 12
    0
    The petty trash of our "responsible persons" is striking: having in service the most effective missile system "Satan", for 20 years they were "picking their nose" instead of stealing, copying, buying documentation and (or) specialists for this missile ...
    Deputy prime ministers have annual "income" of up to 250.000.000 rubles, and there were no 5.000.000 for 20-30 specialists from "Yuzhny" in the treasury.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 21 May 2014 11: 31
      0
      Yes, I doubt something that we do not have documentation on the Voivode. Somehow they serve her. But still, these missiles are no longer being produced. They are changed to Yars mine as they are launched.
  43. potap48a
    potap48a 21 May 2014 11: 15
    0
    everything has long been exported to us. do not worry
  44. Strashila
    Strashila 21 May 2014 11: 17
    +1
    You think the Americans are right ... right ... why Ukraine needs high-tech specialties ... why Ukraine needs money at all ... they’re savages ... for what savages are rockets.
    The maximum that they are allowed, savages, Kyle to mine coal and change his gum.
  45. Turkestan
    Turkestan 21 May 2014 11: 17
    +2
    I don’t understand what kind of technical support we are talking about ????? In all MISSILE military units, there are special units capable of independently solving any tasks related to routine maintenance and missile maintenance. Moreover, all documentation in these parts is available. It can be assumed that the likely enemy has this documentation. Already a lot of merchants divorced from the defense industry
    1. Russian jacket
      Russian jacket 21 May 2014 11: 31
      0
      Most likely this is a diagnosis and extension of service life.
  46. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 21 May 2014 11: 20
    0
    on "US plans to end Ukrainian cooperation with Russia on intercontinental ballistic missiles"

    That's the whole independence for the last 23 years. As it was a colony, it remains. What is the acute phase of civil war for? Usurpation (illegal seizure of power) and redistribution of property? State raider seizure of property? Or just want to tickle the RF under the abdomen?
  47. Klim2011
    Klim2011 21 May 2014 11: 20
    0
    The news is not good if those documentation goes to the USA.
    But not such times experienced :)
    1. Russian jacket
      Russian jacket 21 May 2014 11: 26
      +3
      Knowing ukrov, we can say with more confidence that she is already there ... angry
  48. muginov2015
    muginov2015 21 May 2014 11: 26
    0
    What for? as far as I know, Satan was sent to scrap with a drunk under the reduction of strategic nuclear forces?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 21 May 2014 12: 31
      0
      Not all. The voivode is still on duty. But rockets are less and less.
  49. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 21 May 2014 11: 29
    +2
    Auuu, the great and independent Ukropovskie Svidomity. Descendants of proud Cossacks and Bander with Shukhevych. What else but parents did not sell? Or are they already the same? am
  50. Aton
    Aton 21 May 2014 11: 32
    0
    Satan still in service ?? I just don't know at all. For the first time I heard about Satan in the program "Cosmos. 9 minutes to heaven". And then it somehow flew out of my head. And then there you are)