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Head of NASA: US will be able to manage the ISS independently

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According to RIA "News", in Berlin, a press conference was held with the participation of the head of NASA, Charles Bolden, who announced plans to deliver astronauts aboard the International Space Station using private spacecraft, which would eliminate the need for Russian assistance by the year 2017.


Bolden also noted that the ISS is controlled by the United States, Japan, Russia, Canada and Europe, and none of the participants can not cancel the project of their own accord. According to Bolden, "there are no irreplaceable countries on the ISS."

It is worth recalling that 13, May 2014, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said that after 2020, Russia will be engaged in more promising space projects than the International Space Station, especially since the US sanctions do not allow them to be regarded as a reliable partner.

Because of the Ukrainian crisis, NASA suspended cooperation with Russia, retaining only those projects that are of interest to the Americans themselves, in particular the ISS. Shortly thereafter, a message appeared on Twitter Rogozin that Americans can "deliver their astronauts to the ISS using a trampoline."

The International Space Station has become the largest scientific and technical project in modern storiesIn which 16 countries participate: Russia, Japan, USA, Italy, Canada, Belgium, Denmark, Netherlands, France, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Germany, Great Britain, Switzerland and Brazil.
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  1. Children BuryKonya
    Children BuryKonya 20 May 2014 09: 45
    +35
    Still decided a trampoline.
    1. Hariva
      Hariva 20 May 2014 09: 51
      +17
      I heard the CUB is being built. (decryption I think is not required) lol
      1. avg
        avg 20 May 2014 10: 51
        +5
        Rogozin needs to be more specific. For example, the ISS is not interesting to us after 2020, and the Americans are not interested in the trampoline, from tomorrow.
    2. Cormorants
      Cormorants 20 May 2014 09: 51
      +10
      I agree with Rogozin, the need for the station will soon disappear, ahead of the lunar project.
      1. snifer
        snifer 20 May 2014 09: 55
        +3
        The lunar project is certainly good, but who will tell you how to protect yourself from cosmic radiation. To my knowledge, this is one of the main reasons for the possibility of interplanetary manned flights.
        1. Yun Klob
          Yun Klob 20 May 2014 10: 23
          +4
          The Americans are safe and our foil will close.
          1. Canep
            Canep 20 May 2014 10: 33
            +2
            Bolden also noted that the ISS is managed by the USA, Japan, Russia, Canada and Europe, and none of the participants can cancel the project on their own.
            Russia can simply exit the project and give the rest a trampoline. But I suspect that as far as sanctions do not hurt Russia, cooperation will be so fruitful. That is, sanctions are fictitious, respectively, and a reduction in cooperation will be fictitious.
          2. winkiller
            winkiller 20 May 2014 14: 48
            +3
            Quote: Yoon Klob
            The Americans are safe and our foil will close.

            There is no radiation in Hollywood.
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        3. Aryan
          Aryan 20 May 2014 10: 46
          +5
          Quote: snifer
          The lunar project is certainly good, but who will tell you how to protect yourself from cosmic radiation. To my knowledge, this is one of the main reasons for the possibility of interplanetary manned flights.


          let them fly at night when there is no solar radiation wassat
          1. inkass_98
            inkass_98 20 May 2014 11: 39
            +4
            Quote: Aryan
            let them fly at night when there is no solar radiation

            Then you need to fly to the full moon, otherwise you can not get to the moon laughing will have to wait until a new one comes lol
        4. demon184
          demon184 20 May 2014 11: 10
          +3
          On the moon, the radiation background is not higher than in the orbit of the earth.
        5. I am proud of Russia
          I am proud of Russia 20 May 2014 11: 17
          +1
          Only a magnetic field or a lead cube saves ... There are many difficulties with both the first and second options.
        6. mark2
          mark2 20 May 2014 20: 05
          0
          They will come up with something. Maybe not everything is as scary as they do not tell us. In the end, the base in natural cavities and caves can be made part of the radiation absorbed by rocks, and the second is neutralized by modern materials. Everything can be done and neutralized. You just have to think)
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    4. ksv500
      ksv500 20 May 2014 09: 51
      +16
      Well, this is only until the 2017 year! Three years according to their logic, the American segment itself in space will hang out laughing
      1. Hariva
        Hariva 20 May 2014 10: 07
        +6
        Well, this is only until 2017! Three years according to their logic, the American segment itself in space will hang out laughing
        At the same time, a record of a person in orbit will be established. The descent vehicles are of the same Russian origin. There are no alternatives?
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 20 May 2014 10: 44
          +9
          The descent vehicles are of the same Russian origin.
          Our suits also preferred in due time.
          They can also put on an experiment to return in a descent cargo ship. For detailed instructions, contact Bruce Wiliss.
        2. igordok
          igordok 20 May 2014 12: 21
          +4
          Quote: Hariva
          The descent vehicles are of the same Russian origin. There are no alternatives?

          They recently parachuted from the stratosphere. Probably trained. smile
      2. alex-s
        alex-s 20 May 2014 10: 08
        +3
        it is only until 2017! Three years according to their logic, the American segment itself in space will hang out laughing

        But their astronaut will break the world record for arriving in zero gravity! laughing
        1. Denimax
          Denimax 20 May 2014 14: 23
          0
          The project was created as an international one. Some Americans alone will not pull him for a long time, and in general will quickly lose interest in him. Skylab once also did not last long.
    5. nycsson
      nycsson 20 May 2014 10: 10
      +6
      I don’t remember who “ruled” the world when the world was drowned !? D.u.i.l.y .........
      1. anfil
        anfil 20 May 2014 10: 43
        +5
        I don’t remember who “ruled” the world when the world was drowned !? D.u.i.l.y .........

        Everything has an end, even planets in space, not to mention equipment.

        Hero of the Soviet Union, astronaut Alexander Serebrov, many times observed from the window of the porthole of the Mir orbital station the fall of celestial meteorites right in space. He has four flights and many spacewalks.
        However, Serebrov could not even imagine that one of the flights would be fatal for him. Alexander Serebrov remembers this unfortunate expedition by the minute. The astronauts included in the Mir orbital station, after docking, entered its board. At the orbital station there was equipment, crew from the previous shift. They included spacesuits. Onboard engineer Serebrov prepared equipment for space exit. Opening one of the spacesuits, Serebrova literally poured a wave of green dust. If dust settles on the earth, then in outer space, under conditions of weightlessness, this dust is simply elusive. Several layers of mold formed in the suit. The crew of the Mir orbital station cleaned out all this dust with improvised means. They managed to collect all the mold and dust and send it to the dust collector. Two days later, they noticed that the water at the orbital station has an unpleasant, bitter taste. After another week, a sharp, unpleasant odor appeared in all the compartments.

        When the astronauts dismantled the filtration unit, they determined that the pump requires replacement. But it did not help. Upon a more detailed examination, Serebrov found that the entire filter of the pumping unit was clogged with poisonous yellowish crumbs. These granules of unknown origin were again cleaned in a dust collector. In this situation, the crew decided to sort it out on the ground. The astronauts were soon to return home. But the flight was unexpectedly extended for two months. The astronauts had no choice but to correct the situation themselves. Then Alexander Serebrov himself decided to disassemble the column. When he opened the lid, inside he discovered a worm 8mm in diameter and a half meters long, covered with yellow mucus. The astronauts experienced a terrible shock from what they saw. How could this unknown creature end up in a hermetically sealed orbital water system?
        Then the team reported the incident to the orbital flight control center. The team urgently began to quickly prepare to return home. But the crew did not have much time. One bacterium, under cosmic conditions, mutated so that it was able to degenerate into a whole slug. Due to the effects of cosmic radiation, viruses began to slowly destroy the Mir orbital station. Gradually, one after the other, the most important devices failed. The switching device, which has been operated without failures for more than 10 years, is out of order. When the back cover was opened, a thick green coating of mold was found inside. And in places of damage to the insulation, the formation of copper oxides was visible.
        1. demon184
          demon184 20 May 2014 11: 14
          +4
          Rem wrote? fantasy
          1. Letun
            Letun 20 May 2014 13: 42
            +4
            Quote: demon184
            Rem wrote? fantasy

            Here the events are not fully described, in the finale, mutated slimy worms hijack the Mir station to their dark planet, and the leadership of our country, so as not to shock the world community, says that the station sank in the Pacific Ocean. But we know that ...
      2. Dimy4
        Dimy4 20 May 2014 10: 44
        0
        I don’t remember who “ruled” the world when the world was drowned !? D.u.i.l.y .........

        De jure, one of our liberals, but in fact the US State Department.
      3. sanja.grw
        sanja.grw 20 May 2014 10: 56
        0
        He has already worked out his resource with interest and drowned
      4. I am proud of Russia
        I am proud of Russia 20 May 2014 11: 19
        +1
        I beg you, she has been breathing incense for the past few years. You probably already forgotten constant accidents? There was a lot of talk about selling the station to the Chinese, but apparently there was no further discussion, and the Chinese were going to build their own station.
      5. Sterlya
        Sterlya 20 May 2014 13: 16
        0
        Quote: nycsson
        I don’t remember who “ruled” the world when the world was drowned !? D.u.i.l.y .........

        It has served its purpose with interest, and the economic state of Russia, as well as the mental abilities of Russia's "leaders" left much to be desired.
    6. Yun Klob
      Yun Klob 20 May 2014 10: 22
      +5
      No, Rogozin just says too much instead of doing it. As a result, opponents begin to prepare in advance for what really should have been a surprise for them. Silence is gold.
    7. xenod55
      xenod55 20 May 2014 13: 19
      0
      No, a copy of the ISS will be built in the Hollywood pavilion and broadcast from there. Here the Americans "arrived" to the ISS, but the "land in the window" and so on.
  2. rasputin17
    rasputin17 20 May 2014 09: 45
    +15
    They can operate the ISS on their own! The only question is who will let them do it !? wink
    1. from punk
      from punk 20 May 2014 09: 57
      +5
      Quote: rasputin17
      They can operate the ISS on their own! The only question is who will let them do it !?

      he bent it. The Russian segment can be controlled only by the Russians as well as the American only by the Americans
      1. rasputin17
        rasputin17 20 May 2014 10: 01
        +3
        Yes, he can see again some kind of rubbish smoked and now it’s buggy thinking that all the same Pokemon around !!! laughing
      2. andj61
        andj61 20 May 2014 11: 01
        +1
        Quote: punk
        Quote: rasputin17
        They can operate the ISS on their own! The only question is who will let them do it !?

        he bent it. The Russian segment can be controlled only by the Russians as well as the American only by the Americans

        We have already developed a technique for disconnecting the Russian segment of the station from the rest. If we take into account that the orbit adjustment, that is, the station’s elevation to a higher altitude, is periodically carried out by Russian ships, it should be concluded that the station’s lifetime without the Russian segment is from 3 months (pessimistic forecast) to 1 year (very optimistic). Of course, they will be able to manage the station - if they manage what.
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 20 May 2014 10: 14
      +3
      Quote: rasputin17
      They can operate the ISS on their own! The only question is who will let them do it !?

      Ha ha ha He laughed heartily ...... It is controlled not only from Russia .....
      1. rasputin17
        rasputin17 20 May 2014 10: 19
        +2
        Quote: nycsson
        Quote: rasputin17
        They can operate the ISS on their own! The only question is who will let them do it !?

        Ha ha ha He laughed heartily ...... It is controlled not only from Russia .....

        I constantly laugh heartily reading notes of crazy and delusional populist ideas of downs from phashington !!! laughing
  3. snifer
    snifer 20 May 2014 09: 45
    +8
    of course they can, and they also flew to the moon, clowns
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 20 May 2014 10: 15
      -10%
      It is worth recalling that 13, May 2014, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said that after 2020, Russia will be engaged in more promising space projects than the International Space Station, especially since the US sanctions do not allow them to be regarded as a reliable partner.

      But it just killed me! am First you build your station, and then make such statements! What could be more promising than the ISS and space exploration?
      1. andj61
        andj61 20 May 2014 11: 04
        +7
        Quote: nycsson
        First you build your station, and then make such statements! What could be more promising than the ISS and space exploration?


        The ISS - the Russian CS - and space exploration can be more promising than the ISS, exclusively in national interests.
        1. annodomene
          annodomene 20 May 2014 11: 53
          +2
          Quote: andj61

          The ISS - the Russian CS - and space exploration can be more promising than the ISS, exclusively in national interests.

          MIR - 2, in the CPC its sketch and layout are
        2. nycsson
          nycsson 20 May 2014 14: 44
          0
          Quote: andj61
          The ISS - the Russian CS - and space exploration can be more promising than the ISS, exclusively in national interests.

          It's right! Did we really start building our station? First, let them build it, and only then leave the ISS. And it will turn out as always .......
      2. avia1991
        avia1991 20 May 2014 12: 35
        +2
        Quote: nycsson
        What could be more promising than the ISS and space exploration

        For example, research from a stationary space station on the moon. It is possible to make it more secure, less prone to orbiting, respectively. And you can build from the hulls of disposable cargo ships .. well, as an option! wink
    2. Mhpv
      Mhpv 20 May 2014 10: 25
      +1
      Look how these 3,14 bastards flew to the moon. Pay attention to the flag, first it hangs, as in gravity, and then stands up clearly, horizontally (not top, as in the absence of attraction, nor down), and astronauts jump as in a staged pavilion. The song is really great
      1. andj61
        andj61 20 May 2014 11: 07
        +3
        For our astronauts, the very fact of the Americans’ flights to the moon is not in doubt. This has been repeatedly confirmed by the appropriate means of control of the USSR.
        But about the shooting - it, of course, maybe staged.
        1. tolancop
          tolancop 20 May 2014 11: 42
          0
          There are a lot of doubts that the Americans landed on the moon and very reasonable doubts. There is a lot of literature devoted to this issue.
      2. krpmlws
        krpmlws 20 May 2014 14: 08
        0
        Still, it would be great to watch Russian cosmonauts jump on the moon.
  4. older
    older 20 May 2014 09: 45
    +7
    Well, well ... I wonder how it will be implemented in practice ... Exactly, the trampoline will be the most progressive way laughing
    1. Mhpv
      Mhpv 20 May 2014 10: 31
      +12
      Something like this will be soon:
  5. Yellow white
    Yellow white 20 May 2014 09: 45
    +9
    Yes, Rogozin's "trampoline", of course, is good, no one expected the fall of the Proton and this is sad ...
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 20 May 2014 09: 52
      +15
      And for some reason I think that someone is dirty. It is painful that all these falls turn out to be confined to something.
    2. Sterlya
      Sterlya 20 May 2014 09: 58
      +10
      Quote: Black and White
      Yes, Rogozin's "trampoline", of course, is good, no one expected the fall of the Proton and this is sad ...

      And they always fall with Glonass satellites and other most valuable communication satellites. It has long been thought that striped ears stick out behind all this?
      1. Djein
        Djein 20 May 2014 10: 24
        +1
        I already offered dill and dill to the gloating and accusing Rogozin of paying attention that he should not be responsible for corrupt Americans or just .... rocket collectors, but the competent authorities for some reason ... ??? do not cope with this problem ... Why ......? It’s time to figure it out already ...
      2. Djein
        Djein 20 May 2014 10: 24
        +2
        I already offered dill and dill to the gloating and accusing Rogozin of paying attention that he should not be responsible for corrupt Americans or just .... rocket collectors, but the competent authorities for some reason ... ??? do not cope with this problem ... Why ......? It’s time to figure it out already ...
      3. St.S.S.
        St.S.S. 20 May 2014 12: 11
        0
        So I also thought about flashed! Well, everything is somehow very suspicious! Alternatively, "our" money is being laundered! hi
  6. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 20 May 2014 09: 49
    +5
    ISS let it fly. But need own space station.
    1. ARS56
      ARS56 20 May 2014 10: 12
      +1
      It’s easy and inexpensive to build your own on the basis of your ISS Russian Segment. And let NASA manage the rest of the expensive scrap metal. If he can.
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  7. Pasus
    Pasus 20 May 2014 09: 50
    +5
    In theory, users can send their truck to the ISS. I can’t remember now whether the ISS docking gateways are designed for Amer’s standard?
    Let them carry an extra item of expenditures themselves, you see, they will cut the military budget.
    1. tolancop
      tolancop 20 May 2014 11: 47
      0
      Hello, we have arrived !!! I could be wrong, but if my memory serves me right, then the compatibility of the docking stations was carried out back to the Soyuz-Apollo flight in 1975.
  8. MOISEY
    MOISEY 20 May 2014 09: 51
    +7
    I think it’s time to separate the ISS Russian segments from the base and create MIR-2.0. Russia has experience! Let the rest smoke.
  9. Dimy4
    Dimy4 20 May 2014 09: 51
    +5
    ... using private spaceships ...

    And from whom will private ships buy engines and take drawings of passageways? Or does the American segment attach wooden doors?
  10. ARS56
    ARS56 20 May 2014 09: 52
    +15
    We are not talking about the "management" of the ISS. The point is that the Russian segment of the ISS can function as an orbital station independently, but the American segment cannot. Or is NASA suggesting we donate our segment to the ISS?
    So after 2020, either the Americans are completing their segment to a full-fledged station, or they are buying out our segment, or they are flooding prematurely the US - Japanese shlyazak in the ocean.
    Sanctions are a double-edged thing.
  11. mamont5
    mamont5 20 May 2014 09: 53
    +2
    "announced plans to bring astronauts aboard the International Space Station using private spacecraft, which would eliminate the need for Russian assistance by 2017."

    Yeah, a lot of them Dragon flew during this time. So in a purely walking mode. Well, take a walk.
  12. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 20 May 2014 09: 54
    +1
    No more than wishful thinking!
  13. Arkan
    Arkan 20 May 2014 09: 54
    0
    It is worth recalling that 13, May 2014, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said that after 2020, Russia will be engaged in more promising space projects than the International Space Station, especially since the US sanctions do not allow them to be regarded as a reliable partner.


    What are more promising projects? Will we launch our station into orbit or fly to Mars? Clarification required.
    1. ARS56
      ARS56 20 May 2014 10: 17
      0
      The ISS Russian segment is a ready-made orbital station. It is only necessary to disconnect from the rest of the ISS. And subsequently supplemented with a scientific and energy module, which is in a high degree of readiness.
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  14. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 20 May 2014 09: 55
    +3
    Well, we ourselves do it ourselves ..))) Perhaps the Chinese and I will have our own .. and we will place everything we want there without pointers.
  15. jayich
    jayich 20 May 2014 09: 56
    +5
    It's time to move on to manned interplanetary flights.
    Let's wait for a nuclear orbital tug. We will wait for a heavy pH.
    But do not we reanimate the program of battle stations Salute. Should the Pole program continue.
    Damn, I wonder if at least in old age I will see our warship in orbit?
    “We started to work on a new type of engine for us - detonation rocket engine,” admits Vladimir Gusev, deputy head of the propulsion department of NPO Energomash.

    The detonation engine will allow both to fly further and to put more cargo into space. This is a new project of Energomash and another challenge to competitors. Energomash believes that in a couple of years, instead of a model, they will be able to present a real copy, which will become a new page in cosmonautics.
  16. JonnyT
    JonnyT 20 May 2014 09: 56
    0
    ))))) there are no non-replaceable countries, but there are life support modules! All the main life support modules are Russian ...... of course all this is silly .... The ISS will not be able to function both without the Russian Federation and without the USA, so this kind of statement is pure populism and PR .....
    1. ARS56
      ARS56 20 May 2014 10: 25
      +2
      Without the USA - the American and Japanese parts of the ISS - the Russian segment can exist and function as an orbital station MAY. American without us - no.
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    3. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 20 May 2014 11: 00
      0
      And you, what a pity NASA! Populism is the actions of "liberals" to lick amerovskoy priests. And it is time to finally understand what is called "international" for testing turns out to be purely pro-American. And one more thing: ours have vast experience in operating Space Stations, and the Americans have something close to ZERO, otherwise they would cooperate with us. And rightly they say here that from our ISS segment it is elementary and without special costs to restore MIR- 2.0, what is the stop for and as the French say in war as in war, they do not reckon with us, so why should we take their interests into account. As O. Bender said: "Everyone ... on trampolines (oh, to Avtodor), and there you look the Americans will come up with something, even before their module falls into the ocean!
  17. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 20 May 2014 09: 56
    +8
    Well, the time has come to show NASA and the United States specifically who is the boss in the “house.” To urgently end all types of cooperation in the space sphere with those who support the US sanctions, and by 2017 only one memory will remain from the ISS (and then at the bottom of the Pacific ocean), because without raising its orbit by our Progress Khan. Personally, I do not like the smiling faces of American astronauts, who previously served in carrier-based aviation and bombed peaceful countries! So what is the question of gentlemen from Roscosmos, or are you used to the fact that the Yankees can shit on your heads with impunity? Told - American Astronauts ON TRAMPOLINES. So keep your promises! And most importantly, when leaving, do not forget to disconnect the Russian modules and let them sanction themselves further! And stop working against your country: stop supplying our rocket engines to our enemies (I apologize to the "partners")!
    1. sub307
      sub307 20 May 2014 10: 18
      0
      So what - "wait and see."
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  18. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 20 May 2014 09: 57
    +2
    Well, let them fly from 17g and start, but for now, let them train on the ground, their 60ml is not critical, so that they would not give in to them to think about cutting off our ability to fly into space!
  19. lexxxus
    lexxxus 20 May 2014 09: 57
    +8
    Go!!! smile
    1. ipshum
      ipshum 20 May 2014 10: 15
      +3
      I hammered the charge into the gun tightly and thought: "I'll launch a friend."
      1. Sterlya
        Sterlya 20 May 2014 11: 06
        +2
        Quote: ipshum
        I hammered the charge into the gun tightly and thought: "I'll launch a friend."

        And Munchausen with his own hands pulled himself by the hair from the swamp. (it is quite possible that in this way you can reach the ISS wassat )
  20. voveim
    voveim 20 May 2014 09: 57
    +2
    ISS let it fly. But you need your own space station.

    Necessarily needed. Like the GLONASS satellite system. Like so much more that made us independent from somersaults of US politics. But in order for all this to take place, we need, first of all, a strong economy in which knowledge-based industries rely on state support.
  21. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 20 May 2014 09: 58
    +2
    NASA got into a puddle, and now "makes a good face with a bad game"!
  22. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 20 May 2014 09: 59
    +3
    The world is about ... or, now you can "tackle more promising projects"
  23. jekasimf
    jekasimf 20 May 2014 09: 59
    +2
    Psaki and got into NASA ??? !!!
  24. siberalt
    siberalt 20 May 2014 10: 01
    +3
    And how many ISS flies without orbit correction? Their "dragons" are not adapted for that.
  25. Iskander Khan
    Iskander Khan 20 May 2014 10: 02
    +5
    I suggest yuser use the services of a new space power: Banderia. Their technology "He who is not jumping, that m.s.k.a.l." will soon allow up to ... ships and tons of cargo to be thrown into orbit per day.
  26. teron
    teron 20 May 2014 10: 04
    0
    It is high time. And in general there was no need to get involved in this "project".
  27. Bort radist
    Bort radist 20 May 2014 10: 04
    +5
    "USA will be able to manage the ISS yourself "
    Invalid title. USA want to Manage the ISS on your own.
    According to Aunt Sonya, based on her life experience, those who want and those who can are very different.
  28. Sterlya
    Sterlya 20 May 2014 10: 05
    +3
    Any joint project involving the United States is not desirable. given their arrogance and hypocrisy. If the Americans delivered our astronauts, they would first refuse delivery.
    And considering that the central segment of the ISS is Russian, it is not yet known who can independently manage the ISS without anyone
  29. Khalmamed
    Khalmamed 20 May 2014 10: 08
    +1
    screams of impurities must be listened carefully ..., individual human bodies controlled by infernal entities blah blak valuable information ....- good fellow infa ..., their dates are fantastic .. and private businessmen go roquef or birth cleaned nasa .. .
    there will be traitors and engines of sales .. maybe with the hands of traitors a homo-trans-trampoline will be built ...
    and so you can "give away" the RUSSIAN segment ..., Our soul is with Jokes .., then yeast, then mother-in-law in the fence .., then homing boards on the white toilet lawn ... WE are creative people and jokes at US are Harsh. ., let them cry ... for how pleasant it is to be driven by RUSS, Russian and VVP ...
  30. Vlad Gore
    Vlad Gore 20 May 2014 10: 11
    +2
    What cosmos? Which ISS? Fifth generation Americans can’t bring to mind. They will print money, and where to get brains. Only from the side. In the states, people are dumb with each generation. And to stop the influx of brains from outside is the task of our and Chinese special services. If you can’t convince, there is always a fallback. An ice ax to anyone who wants to work for the States. good
  31. fly fishing
    fly fishing 20 May 2014 10: 17
    0
    Quote: snifer
    The lunar project is certainly good, but who will tell you how to protect yourself from cosmic radiation.

    Already there are suggestions that the lunar station should be built underground, and radiation cannot be reached.
  32. xbhxbr-777
    xbhxbr-777 20 May 2014 10: 18
    +1
    Rogozin well done !!! We don’t need mattresses, we can build, put into orbit and maintain any space stations ourselves, and of course work for them, because it’s ours that reanimated the dead station, and these crap can’t do anything, everything rests on them in money, let them spin as they can! hi
  33. 120352
    120352 20 May 2014 10: 19
    +1
    Maybe they will be able to. Though not for long. But who will allow them? Let them buy a station from us and do whatever they want with it. Only our equipment will need to be removed from it.
  34. Victor1
    Victor1 20 May 2014 10: 24
    +1
    I would break off relations on the ISS and from the next crew would stop the delivery of astronauts to the ISS, let them sit for 3 years without a station.
    The station consists of segments and modules, can these modules be separated? Let’s separate the Russian module and use it as a separate station. Maintain your module as a separate station, and let the rest of the figs hang with it in space or burn in the atmosphere. Need to hit these Anglo-Saxons on the nose!
  35. dr.Bo
    dr.Bo 20 May 2014 10: 27
    +1
    Well, now in Afghanistan deliver your item P.Indossky with the help of a catapult yes
  36. Wiruz
    Wiruz 20 May 2014 10: 33
    +1
    using private spaceships

    Let me ask, whose engines will be on private spaceships? Just recently, infa passed, they say, modern American engines for spaceships are worse than those that were done in the Union back in the 70s winked .
  37. dr.Bo
    dr.Bo 20 May 2014 10: 40
    0
    Well, now in Afghanistan deliver your item P.Indossky with the help of a catapult
  38. smart ass
    smart ass 20 May 2014 10: 40
    +1
    But I don’t understand what cosmonauts are doing on the ISS .. what are they doing there all these years ??? Can we see it for us ?? It is high time to fly to distant stars, they are still growing violets in orbit.
  39. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 20 May 2014 10: 43
    +1
    Yes, I agree it’s time to put them in their place, wherever possible, so that they know the land and don’t fall! Let them spend on creating our own, we have something to do without them!
  40. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 20 May 2014 10: 47
    0
    Rogozin is Zhirinovsky from the military-industrial complex, he does not bear any responsibility for balabolit, therefore, his statements must be treated with humor. The ISS is beneficial to everyone, and profitable projects are simply not abandoned. Moreover, we have no real alternative. An orbital station costs a lot of money, its construction takes a lot of time, there is nothing to put into orbit so far and judging by recent successes it is not a fact that it will succeed. But seriously exploring the moon without having a transshipment station in orbit is from the realm of economic fiction. We can agree on cooperation with China, we have common goals. China has a powerful industry, but so far they are behind us in the space sector and they will accept help on conditions normal for us, maybe even on equal terms. A joint program of flight to the moon will begin with the development of the LV with the necessary parameters. Further, the creation of an orbital base and communication centers on the earth, the launch of long-range space communication satellites, ship repair, it would be nice if the cosmodrome is closer to the equator. In general, creating a base on the moon is more about economics than technology. The more cooperation, the more likely it will all happen.
    1. jayich
      jayich 20 May 2014 14: 01
      +1
      Energia RN is already 25 years old at lunch, and it’s better they haven’t come up with anything yet, its carrying capacity is up to 120 tons, the weight of the ISS is 417 tons, so consider how many launches you need (4 pieces) to build the same yourself.
      There is of course a fantastic idea to start developing based on submarines (for example, Amur-950
      TTX boats:
      Amur-950
      21 crew
      Length 56,8 m
      Rugged body diameter 5,65 m
      Surface displacement 950 t

      ) spaceships, fasten a nuclear reactor to it. Because I think the life support systems of modern sub are somewhat similar to space technology. The body is made of titanium, fill the housing distance with the necessary thermal and biological protection
      To put into orbit the hull of about 150-200 tons, two Energia LVs will cope, then the already assembled compartments (5 pcs.) Each weighing about 120 tons, and the last reactor with a propulsion system, dock this nesting doll in orbit, but an orbital tug is needed to bring it to the construction site, wow something I dreamed ...
      But damn, I have more than half of the ideas of Roscosmos.
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  41. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 20 May 2014 10: 48
    +1
    They must be refused delivery of astronauts to the station, and we will see what they will do. RUSSIA will not lose much from this. As they impose sanctions, so do we respond to them. good
  42. Camouflet
    Camouflet 20 May 2014 10: 50
    +1
    According to Bolden, "there are no irreplaceable countries on the ISS."


    a good mine with a bad game. The ISS is a large chunk of GOV in orbit. The benefits from it are practically zero. Without the Russian module, it will fall on our heads and very soon. On "private traders" bolden will run. Oh well. Russia doesn't need this ISS, a waste of money. Nothing new was done on it. let these "partners" themselves suffer from garbage. The ISS is the day before yesterday in astronautics.
  43. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 20 May 2014 10: 56
    +1
    Maybe I don’t understand something, the USA is our potential enemy, constantly demonstrating this to us with its desire to destroy Russia as a state. And what contacts and joint projects can be with the enemy, or not, but if some projects are still being implemented, then this should be regarded as a betrayal of the interests of Russia. And mind you, we did not start it.
  44. Weniamin
    Weniamin 20 May 2014 11: 06
    0
    Well, I do not. These krivoruky Yankees can’t be allowed even close to the steering wheel.
  45. semuil
    semuil 20 May 2014 11: 09
    0
    Oh, so many countries are listed. Straight scribe. Yes, all this shit, leave and stretch marks instructed that pentuhi would not climb, although in the near future more than one scum will not climb there. As if they did not smile.
  46. crambol
    crambol 20 May 2014 11: 11
    0
    Quote: Victor1
    I would break off relations on the ISS and from the next crew would stop the delivery of astronauts to the ISS, let them sit for 3 years without a station.


    There are agreements that do not allow you to do such nonsense. Actions must be reciprocal, because decisions like "Fuck you all!" can lead to unpredictable consequences.
  47. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 20 May 2014 11: 20
    +2
    Quote: Dimy4

    And from whom will private ships buy engines and take drawings of passageways? Or does the American segment attach wooden doors?

    During the "flights to the Moon", several redocks were planned: when approaching the Moon, undock the chicken coop, turn it over, dock again, go into the chicken coop, undock, put it on the Moon, take off from the Moon, dock, go to Apollo and, finally, undock and throw away the chicken coop so it doesn't get in the way. Have you estimated the complexity of the events? And after such an experience, NASA can not only dock the spacecraft to the ISS, but simply go into space! Yes, yes, we read about the Dragon and the docking pad ...
  48. Blinov_I
    Blinov_I 20 May 2014 11: 23
    +1
    Quote: anfil
    Then Alexander Serebrov himself decided to disassemble the column. When he opened the lid, inside he discovered a worm 8mm in diameter and a half meters long, covered with yellow mucus

    Well, trashak of the MK level. I remember I saw an interview with him: he was talking about a "worm" made of green algae! It's just that the filter is clogged with proliferating algae. Soon to see this story is transformed into a story that the World was flooded because of extraterrestrial monsters! And in the second part, they will come out of the sea (because they did not die during the fall wassat ) and start hawking people ...
  49. chastener
    chastener 20 May 2014 11: 25
    +1
    wassat Perhaps we should disconnect the American segment of the ISS, together with their astronaut, and let him go on a free trip. That will be scary !!! wassat
  50. crasever
    crasever 20 May 2014 13: 02
    0
    Well, the road will be mastered by the walker (in this case, the flying one). In general, the drop in the level of manned space exploration of the United States to the level of the early 60s of the last century serves as indirect evidence of lunar bullshit with "small steps", rover safaris, etc.