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Who doubts that Russia has withdrawn troops from the borders of Ukraine?

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On the statements of representatives of the Russian authorities that the Russian troops, after conducting exercises in the regions bordering with Ukraine, are returning to their places of permanent deployment, the NATO command responded in the key that has become customary lately. The alliance said they "did not notice" the withdrawal of Russian troops from the border with Ukraine. Reports about it Interfax.


Who doubts that Russia has withdrawn troops from the borders of Ukraine?


The statement of the press service of the Russian president was as follows:

In connection with the completion of the planned spring phase of training troops, which provided for their redeployment and held, in particular, at the testing grounds in the Rostov, Belgorod and Bryansk regions, Vladimir Putin gave the command to the Minister of Defense to return the troops involved in the exercises to the permanent deployment sites and continue combat training on nearby landfills.


The answer came from Brussels:

We have no information about any movements (Russian troops - approx. "IN"), which we could confirm.


But NATO should be well aware of other movements - movements of the Ukrainian borders. After all, if we consider that the DNR and the LC from 11 in May are sovereign republics, then the Russian troops clearly moved away from the borders of Ukraine. Or Ukraine has withdrawn its territory from the Russian troops.

Against this background, the presidential candidate of Ukraine, Yulia Tymoshenko, calls for a so-called all-Ukrainian referendum on the country's accession to the North Atlantic Alliance and the EU. Reports about it RT. Yulia Timoshenko:

At a time when ... every Ukrainian family lives in a heavy premonition of war, when our army is not strong enough to protect our borders - we need to find difficult but effective solutions to bring peace to Ukraine. Such a decision could be Ukraine’s accession to the EU and NATO.

That is why I offered to immediately hold a referendum on these issues.


What does the term “All-Ukrainian referendum” mean in terms of Tymoshenko, given the fact that the Donetsk and Luhansk regions (people's republics) declared their sovereignty - the candidate did not clarify.
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  1. fvandaku
    fvandaku 19 May 2014 15: 35
    +25
    We are waiting again for a "photo" from the United States, as proof that the evil GDP holds an armada of tanks on the border.
    And I would like to.)))
    1. from punk
      from punk 19 May 2014 15: 39
      +12
      Quote: fvandaku
      We are waiting again for a "photo" from the United States, as proof that the evil GDP holds an armada of tanks on the border.
      And I would like to.)))

      But can NATO confirm anything at all? Not competent everyone in this NATO. Now we will deploy troops to the borders of the Baltic states and check whether they will notice or not? soldier I would do so. Let them not relax
      1. avg
        avg 19 May 2014 15: 55
        +15
        It is high time to answer that the movement of troops within our borders is our internal affair. And no longer respond to their "concerns". But regarding their numerous bases, international exercises, etc., they constantly poke their faces in the face, right up to the UN Security Council,
        1. Oleg1964
          Oleg1964 19 May 2014 16: 15
          +11
          Well, if, our units were able to fulfill the order and relocate so that no one noticed this. Five points to the commanders for the training of their units.
        2. I do not care
          I do not care 19 May 2014 17: 58
          +5
          Quote: avg
          It's time to answer that the movement of troops within our borders is our internal affair

          What the hell - first, the president got the right to use the army abroad, move troops to the border, then - elections - "the right direction", the withdrawal of troops, and Slavyansk is being cut, according to the referendum, we respect, but we do not recognize. There is a step back, there - sideways, one thing is not clear to me, why there is still no unambiguous assessment of what is happening in Ukraine from the lips of the President to his citizens.

          Ask de Ms. vu jerked.
          1. olegkrava
            olegkrava 19 May 2014 21: 59
            0
            Three steps stripped, two steps to the right, a step forward and three back.
    2. SS68SS
      SS68SS 19 May 2014 15: 43
      +20
      Yes, for a long time already all at home. They even planted potatoes for May. At the border there are "inflated T-72s" and "scarecrows from the garden" in helmets. And these "ch.m.o" are all shaking with fear ...
      1. sergey72
        sergey72 19 May 2014 15: 46
        +9
        Quote: SS68SS
        Yes, for a long time already all at home. At the border, "inflated t-72" are standing and "scarecrows from the garden" in helmets.

        So the blowers came in handy ... wink
        1. smart Fox
          smart Fox 19 May 2014 16: 14
          +3
          Well, if there’s so much screech from the blowers, then what will happen if something really armored moves to the borders of Ukraine?
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      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 May 2014 15: 55
        +5
        Quote: SS68SS
        Yes, for a long time everyone is at home. They even planted potatoes in May

        But there are no vehicles on YouTube that moved towards the border. Now they are probably moving quietly winked
        Well, then it depends on what is considered the border of Ukraine, if we don’t consider the Donbass border, then we really took it.
        1. Siberian
          Siberian 19 May 2014 18: 38
          +1
          Really - the words of Yaytsenyuk that Russia is not their neighbor, but a partner, come true. And this kind wizard is Igor Strelkov, under whose command we really are no longer neighbors in that place. And those guys who hold the defense are novice magicians, they are involved in this.
          The current "rule" of Ukraine is the prophets, they say, made by the people.
        2. Berserk
          Berserk 19 May 2014 23: 06
          0
          For starters - there were no outgoing columns either. Identified at night too?
      4. Oleg1964
        Oleg1964 19 May 2014 16: 24
        +2
        Shh ... No, give out military secrets. Let yourself be afraid.
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    4. jktu66
      jktu66 19 May 2014 15: 54
      +8
      We are waiting again for a "photo" from the United States, as proof that the evil GDP holds an armada of tanks on the border.
      These treacherous Russians disguised tanks as combines and tractors, and armored personnel carriers as taxis.
    5. nycsson
      nycsson 19 May 2014 16: 08
      +2
      What a foolish article !? What is her meaning? All Internet news publications say that he gave the command to return to places of constant deployment ......
      1. zanoza
        zanoza 19 May 2014 17: 28
        +5
        Quote: nycsson
        What is her meaning?

        The point is that we withdrew the troops, but their spirit remained... laughing
        Yes, it is so densely stuck in the minds of NATO-tsev that still they see Russian tanks at the dawn of the morning, they are allergic to this ... fool
        Yes, the junta imagines that the Russians have already crossed the border ....
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 19 May 2014 18: 08
          0
          Quote: zanoza
          The point is that we have withdrawn the troops, but their spirit remained ...

          Well, okay! Another idiot ...... Although, it would be time to stop idling for a long time ...... When they just start to think with their heads ...... request
          Quote: zanoza
          Yes, it is so densely stuck in the minds of NATO-tsev that still they see Russian tanks at the dawn of the morning, they are allergic to this ...

          He laughed heartily ....... Yeah! Firmly hold ours for ya.ts.a! And when they are clamped in a vice, then you will not keen much! wassat
    6. VNP1958PVN
      VNP1958PVN 19 May 2014 16: 55
      0
      And why wait for them, they are old and will be sent!
    7. Hamul
      Hamul 19 May 2014 17: 16
      0
      Actually, in the realities of modern life, the troops that carried out the exercises are just a pawn. Just intimidation and rattling of weapons.
      For a real invasion, troops will not need much time.
    8. g1v2
      g1v2 19 May 2014 18: 26
      +2
      Maybe they just don’t know where our borders are?
  2. vsoltan
    vsoltan 19 May 2014 15: 35
    +8
    Such a decision could be the accession of Ukraine to the EU and NATO.

    With joining NATO, you will have to wait until all Ukrainian territorial problems are resolved. And the fact that they did not notice the troop movements was to be expected. What they want is threshed, contrary to the obvious. The same, I think, will happen after the May 25 elections - if they take place. Once again, all dogs will be hanged in Russia. He who seeks a pretext will always find him
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 19 May 2014 15: 42
      +4
      So we have the exercises on the border scheduled for May 25. We will be back.
  3. Sochi
    Sochi 19 May 2014 15: 36
    +20
    Oleksiy Baganets, Deputy Prosecutor General of Ukraine, live on Inter TV channel, on the Details of the Week program, dated 18.05.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX, admitted that in Donetsk he was surrounded and surrendered to the Jaguar special forces detachment.
    According to the deputy prosecutor, 22 groups of investigators from the prosecutor general’s office were sent to Donetsk to detain the “separatists” and conduct searches. For their protection, they were given fighters of the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - "Jaguar". In Donetsk, they were blocked by the fighters of the Donetsk People’s Republic, reasoning that it makes no sense to die for the Kiev junta of impostors, they laid down their arms and were held captive. Given that in each investigation group there were at least 12-14 people, at least 250 were captured, they surrendered along with weapons and special vehicles. The special forces regiment "Jaguar", his task is to reliably block the area of ​​the special operation, to provide support to the capture groups. As for the profile tasks, they include the elimination of illegal armed groups, the neutralization of criminals who are being searched for over a large territory, and the suppression of mass riots. For example, only “jaguars” are capable of effectively blocking and combing woodland in our country, in Podillia (a unit is stationed near Vinnitsa. - Auth.). They can act both in small groups and in whole companies, moreover, having the appropriate weapons and law enforcement skills.

    Source: http://www.gradremstroy.ru/news/v-donecke-sdalsya-v-plen-ukrainskij-otryad-specn
    aza-yaguar.html
    1. alex-s
      alex-s 19 May 2014 15: 58
      +3
      Given that in each investigation group there were at least 12-14 people, at least 250 were captured, they surrendered along with weapons and special vehicles.

      God grant that this is true! If only everyone would give up right away!
    2. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 19 May 2014 16: 01
      +10
      Alexander, do not hear yet, but if it is true, then there is nothing surprising. Looks like either the preparation for the special soldier is no or complete demoralization. After all, there were no large-scale special operations, they are hammering from afar from mortars and howitzers, including in residential buildings, but they really do not climb, they are afraid of a campaign ...
      Anecdote in the topic:
      One h.o.h.o.l is a soldier.
      Two h.o.h.l.- partisan detachment.
      Three h.oh.h.la.a - partisan detachment with a traitor. laughing
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 19 May 2014 22: 35
        0
        Well, actually, ukrov had 3 regiments of special forces of centuries and one brigade [leopard]. BARS-Kiev closes, Jaguar from Vinnitsa-east thrown, the Tiger [I had a friend there] was in the Crimea, has now become part of the Interior Ministry, Cheetah-Zaporozhye and on whose side he is. In principle, the elite parts, but fight for the junta are not torn. The tiger over almost all came to us, except for the commander. There were a couple more parts of smaller ones - a slope, a shadow, but they were also in Crimea. In addition, there was infa that parts of the mercenaries gave the form of the Jaguar, and it seems that the intruders are not happy either. Shooters already gave information about the shootings of the centuries with the National Guard and it seems the Vovans do not know how to get off this batch. Their homes are in the west, families, too, cannot switch to the DPR side, but they can easily surrender.
    3. muhomor
      muhomor 19 May 2014 17: 26
      +1
      Yes, probably not all the same. Donetsk about it is silent.
    4. tank64rus
      tank64rus 19 May 2014 17: 31
      +1
      Well, let them begin their direct duties and clean up Kiev with the Golden Eagle from impostors, war criminals and terrorists who are agents of foreign states, which are supposedly power.
    5. tank64rus
      tank64rus 19 May 2014 17: 31
      0
      Well, let them begin their direct duties and clean up Kiev with the Golden Eagle from impostors, war criminals and terrorists who are agents of foreign states, which are supposedly power.
    6. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 19 May 2014 18: 27
      +2
      Quote: Sochi
      Alexey Baganets,

      I am not strong in mov (in general, I think that this is just an INTENTIONALLY vulgarized version of the Great and Mighty), but when watching the video the name "falcon" was clearly heard, why "jaguar"?
      In general, if we say that the truth is behind us (and it is in my opinion!) Then we don’t need to mow in the little things!
      And then our gallant journalists show BMDs, call them armored personnel carriers, "Nona" -tanks, show in one plot a picture about an BMP-2 abandoned by the GopNatsGuardia, plastered over by a stupid civilian people, part of which managed to climb inside and apparently by pressing the electronic trigger to produce a queue of 2A42, almost killing a passing pensioner; in the next plot, the same random line is presented as the shooting of blood-cutters at civilians! No words!
      It’s hard to persuade the Eurohahl on their forums when they poke your nose at these shoals and accuse you of moronism!
      Let’s not give them any more reasons! You see the admonition will go faster!
  4. winkiller
    winkiller 19 May 2014 15: 36
    +3
    What a fool ... though with eggs. Although in Gerop this is probably the norm laughing
  5. Draz
    Draz 19 May 2014 15: 36
    +4
    NATO duty commentary specifically for vindicious media
  6. Ataman
    Ataman 19 May 2014 15: 36
    +7
    Tymoshenko in her repertoire. And the rating is lower and lower ...
    1. major071
      major071 19 May 2014 15: 52
      +13
      You see, the woman no longer knows what to do next. The people do not accept it. Companions in "Batkivshin" are slowly starting to throw. The army is not getting ready, nuclear weapons are not given, the West, together with its candidate PARAShenko, is putting on it a big and fat one. Moreover, the unserved term hangs on the neck. Here it also sausages "not childishly". As was du.ra du.roy, it remained.
      1. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov 19 May 2014 19: 33
        0
        Quote: major071
        How was du.ra du.roy,

        They wrote that supposedly there are no such ideas that this person would not be able to implant into the brain of the Ukrainian electorate.
        For the sake of interest, I listened to the recording of a dozen of her speeches, I was not impressed. Solid exaltation with deceitful patriotic patriotism and illiteracy! You don't have to be Stanislavsky to say: "I don't believe!"
        If the electorate believes THAT, then this does not speak in favor of the electorate ....
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    3. alexng
      alexng 19 May 2014 15: 59
      +3
      Quote: Ataman
      And the rating is lower and lower ...


      Yes, it’s time for her to plinth the baseboards and get used to the ground. Not long remained pale with a scythe, or rather forever mowing, trample the Earth - its own scythe and mows ...
    4. Burberry
      Burberry 19 May 2014 17: 25
      +4
      Quote: Ataman
      Thymoshennitsa

      Timoshonka

      :)
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 19 May 2014 18: 28
        +3
        Timoshonka
        Timodyrka ...
  7. Kaetani
    Kaetani 19 May 2014 15: 37
    +5
    Julia just to be PR.
    It’s a pity you can’t touch NATO - like you didn’t see us in the Crimea ....
  8. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 19 May 2014 15: 38
    +4
    At the appointment with an ophthalmologist and treat gentlemen's eyesight, heal!
  9. Russ69
    Russ69 19 May 2014 15: 38
    +8
    The junta also asks that Aviadars be canceled ....

    KIEV, May 19 - RIA Novosti. Ukraine is calling on Russia to cancel the planned Aviadarts 2014 competition, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said on Monday.

    The international competition will be held at the Lipetsk Aviation Center and the Pogonovo training ground in the Voronezh Region from May 21 to 26. Dozens of crews will compete in the accuracy of firing rocket launchers and aircraft cannons at ground targets.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20140519/1008394169.html#ixzz32A1cyPmU
    1. 52
      52 19 May 2014 15: 57
      +7
      Counter idea - if the Germans go to the tank biathlon, then please, on their own, through Uklonina, and do not be shy, because the route and the way of communicating with local natives have long been known to the "doytsy" ("hammers, milky, eggs, goodbye, mistress" ). As they say, wellcome!
    2. alex-s
      alex-s 19 May 2014 16: 01
      +6
      Ukraine is calling on Russia to cancel the planned Aviadarts 2014 competition, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said on Monday.

      And they do not call to cancel the planned winter? Judging by the rate of payment for gas, agreements are already in place! fool
    3. mamont5
      mamont5 19 May 2014 16: 21
      +2
      Quote: Russ69
      KIEV, May 19 - RIA Novosti. Ukraine is calling on Russia to cancel the planned Aviadarts 2014 competition, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said on Monday.


      And nothing more is needed? Maybe the Olympics should have been canceled by a team from Ukraine? Quite a great breeze.
  10. Morgan
    Morgan 19 May 2014 15: 39
    +1
    The answer to the title question of the article is the State Department PR managers (Psaka, there is such a sabaka there).
  11. Giant thought
    Giant thought 19 May 2014 15: 41
    +1
    I think that if necessary, troops can be returned to the border. The track is already trodden. Perhaps troops will no longer be needed to solve the Ukrainian problem.
    1. vsoltan
      vsoltan 19 May 2014 16: 06
      +2
      And how far were they taken? "Places of permanent base" is a vague phrase. Hardly far.
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 19 May 2014 16: 19
        +4
        Quote: vsoltan
        And how much did they take them away? Who is in the know? I don’t think beyond one march

        Putin gave the command to withdraw troops from exercises in southwestern Russia



        MOSCOW, 19 May. Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the return to the places of permanent deployment of troops that took part in exercises in the Rostov, Belgorod and Bryansk regions. This was reported in the press service of the Kremlin.

        In connection with the completion of the planned spring phase of the training of troops, which envisaged their redeployment and took place, in particular, at training grounds in the Rostov, Belgorod and Bryansk regions, the head of state instructed the Minister of Defense to return the troops participating in the exercises to the places of permanent deployment and continue combat training at nearby landfills.

        Recall that on April 24, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that because of the situation in the South-East of Ukraine, new exercises of the Russian army began near the border with Ukraine. According to him, the exercises are a response to the military operation of the Kiev authorities against the civilian population of the South-East of the country.
        Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2014/05/19/1269806.html
      2. sv68
        sv68 19 May 2014 17: 05
        +3
        yes, in my yard there are three tank armies laughing guys just take dispersal so that without stopping to Kiev, and there they say the next stop is Landon angry
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 19 May 2014 18: 35
          +4
          I have three tank armies in my yard
          Not a frail courtyard! And if the tanks are real, then .... wassat
  12. mig31
    mig31 19 May 2014 15: 41
    +2
    When the log is in the eyes, and the State Department, together with the CIA, developed a scenario for another, five years, five years, who will change it, the loot is paid - Hollywood is resting ...
  13. nikrandel
    nikrandel 19 May 2014 15: 42
    +2
    If the referendum does occur, then not everyone will support Tymoshenko on joining NATO, a split will occur again, the country will fall apart completely.
    And then the referendum will probably be fake
  14. Neighbor
    Neighbor 19 May 2014 15: 43
    +3
    Well, the electorate will not go before the elections in all the Russian ravines and copses near the border in search of Russian tanks ... and will believe the Western media (if they believe, who is not zombified) And will vote "as it should."
  15. Russ69
    Russ69 19 May 2014 15: 45
    +8
    From Strelkova ... But something that gives me doubts about this infa, in terms of losses ...

    May 18, 2014. Early this morning, from two sides, an enemy checkpoint in the area of ​​the settlement was simultaneously attacked Robin. At the same time he was fired from a mortar and several grenade launchers at close range. 2 APCs burned down on the spot, the roadblock was completely broken, the enemy suffered heavy losses in manpower. Our losses are 1 wounded. At noon, a grove was fired at with mortar fire in the area of ​​the Slavyansk-Kramatorsk road, which houses the combined units of the National Guard, the 25th and 95th airmobile brigades and a nearby checkpoint. There were three fires in the grove, with binoculars it was clearly visible how many soldiers scattered in a panic (a small grove - 400 by 50 meters). They released 60 min 82 mm in the grove, 10 shells of "Nona" at the checkpoint. Another 6 shells were sent to artillery positions on the return ramp of Karachun. Later, helicopters landed on Karachun and at a roadblock — they transported the wounded. Toward evening, our reconnaissance unit received information about the enemy’s location in the n. Seleznevka (outskirts of the city, 2 km north of Semenovka). The reconnaissance group secretly entered the village and in a fleeting battle destroyed 6 “National Guard” (black uniforms, helmets “painted” with slogans and emblems of the “right sector”), and a dozen more were injured. KAMAZ burned. In total, according to the radio interception, to date, the loss of the enemy by killed and wounded exceeded 100 people, 3 armored personnel carriers, a radio station based on the GAZ-66, and 2 trucks were destroyed. According to the population, the enemy is now thrust into plastic boxes from small arms and taken to Raisins, where all the morgues are already filled with corpses - the refrigerators are full. With the onset of darkness, the enemy conducts harassing fire at our positions from howitzers and mortars. Just reported - our intelligence unit attacked the checkpoint of the BZS. A shot from the "Fly" destroyed 1 BMP. Several National Guard guards incapacitated killed and wounded. “The enemy is hammering the checkpoint from where we left, from howitzers ... But there is nobody there.”
    PS about the great losses of the enemy: “In the grove the people were stuffed like herring in a barrel. And they hit very successfully and in a heap. It was the same in Robin - everything was very tight ”

    Source: http://politikus.ru/events/19491-igor-strelkov-predostavil-dannye-o-poteryah-pro


    tivnika.html
    Politikus.ru
  16. raf
    raf 19 May 2014 15: 46
    +3
    Ukropovtsy and NATO in their repertoire. Branch of the circus De Soleil laughing
  17. raliv
    raliv 19 May 2014 15: 46
    +2
    As it is loudly said "accession to the EU and NATO," can change the text something like this: "to ask permission to become a raw materials appendage of the EU and to provide the territory of OUR INDEPENDENT UKRAINE for carrying out any experiments that our new masters wish."
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  19. DanSabaka
    DanSabaka 19 May 2014 15: 48
    +2
    szuka barks, and the caravan goes .... Well, they don’t see and do not need ... only their own intelligence is dishonored ....
  20. awg75
    awg75 19 May 2014 15: 49
    +2
    who needs clowns in the EU and NATO ??? !!!! enjoy the independence of the independent!
  21. Leshka
    Leshka 19 May 2014 15: 51
    +1
    again, our troops will look for forests laughing
  22. Russ69
    Russ69 19 May 2014 15: 56
    +9
    In, like ... true infa with LJ, and to trust her or not, everyone’s business ...

    "Mole" in Slavyansk: Khodakovsky, Rinat's last chance


    Everyone heard Strelkov’s appeal SaveFrom.net. The commander rebukes the inhabitants of the Southeast that they do not go to the aid of Slavyansk.
    As it turned out today, people are walking. And many people come to the rescue! But they are turned back by a pest, Akhmetov's man named Khodakovsky. It has already been analyzed in detail by Lev Vershinin putnik1. By this evening, it is already known about 8 groups of fighters to whom Khodakovsky said that they were not needed in Sloviansk and sent them back. Apparently, this Akhmetov's "mole" was left as a last resort in order to weaken the defenses of Slavyansk.
    1. St.S.S.
      St.S.S. 19 May 2014 19: 01
      +2
      If so it is then as they say "mole" in the ground !!!
  23. Eugeniy_369k
    Eugeniy_369k 19 May 2014 15: 57
    0
    Russian President Vladimir Putin gave the command to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to return the troops who were on exercises in the Bryansk, Belgorod and Rostov regions to their permanent bases. On Monday, May 19, ITAR-TASS reports with reference to the Kremlin press service.

    It is more complete here. Http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/19/army/
    The troops will withdraw my opinion, Putin made his move, as the commentators say, the ball is now on the enemy’s side laughing.
    I think bargaining begins with the United States and the European Union.
  24. Evgtan
    Evgtan 19 May 2014 15: 57
    +13
    Something like this!
  25. Balamyt
    Balamyt 19 May 2014 15: 57
    +5
    And if you think so, it’s not too much difference at what distance from the border Russian troops! Ours, you go, not in carts, in which case they will go! 50-100-500-1000km. an hour and a half, and all the difference! Or dill want Russia to take troops beyond the Urals ?? Here it is from the bottom of my heart: Horseradish with butter!
  26. Palych9999
    Palych9999 19 May 2014 15: 59
    +5
    Can we finally withdraw all the troops beyond the Urals?
    Something did not read our note on the withdrawal of ALL US troops to the North American continent ...
  27. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 19 May 2014 16: 01
    +2
    All of their statements and words about the Russian Armed Forces are nonsense, and the more they express them there, they lessen their attention to their statements, and the fact that they need to collect things to make it clear that someone will not allow the Nazis at the border with Russia!
  28. yushch
    yushch 19 May 2014 16: 04
    +4
    So Barroso openly said that he does not see nenka in the EU, even in a nightmare, and Rasmussen did not seem to promise to join "Natu". And the "loaf with a scythe" sings songs about "Natu and Eesa")). that Madame is sitting tightly on the "coke" and she has her own parallel reality.
  29. dosyl
    dosyl 19 May 2014 16: 04
    +4
    Quote: Giant thought
    I think that if necessary, troops can be returned to the border. The track is already trodden. Perhaps troops will no longer be needed to solve the Ukrainian problem.
    The bad guys are waiting for our troop deployment. Never. Putin knows what he is doing.
    Russian-speaking "Ukrainians" must go through purgatory themselves. Such is the reboot. This is purely my opinion.
  30. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 19 May 2014 16: 05
    +3
    Troops within our own borders, where we want, we put there. At least 0,5m. from the "great ukrop ditch". Moreover, the issue has not been finally resolved. The question of the processing of cities in the SE by "Ukrograds". UN KFOR mandate to get - Diplomacy based on Economics will not be difficult. Blue helmets and POLITICAL disarmament with subsequent sorting of non-firing, disposal of the fired. Able to fight - now it has gathered compactly around Slavyansk-Kramatorsk. At the General Staff of the Russian Federation, the plans for the "cap" have been worked out to the smallest detail (an assumption with a high degree of probability). NATO will also want to have its share of Ukraine. They generally put on the Ukrainian People with the device. There will be another meeting, not on the Elbe but on the Dnieper. Division of spheres of influence. Russia doesn't really need Ukrainian resources. But the EU and the Americans will be happy. And resources and bridgeheads. Those who wish to work in the EU will immediately have a lot of work ... At NATO bases, at nuclear burial grounds in the Chernobyl zone and at the extraction of shale gas by the final destruction of their Earth for the sake of "treating cookies". And the main troublemakers will run away with the stolen goods (this is a tradition in Ukraine for the last 23 years).
  31. yulka2980
    yulka2980 19 May 2014 16: 05
    +5
    Join New Russia and then you can move the troops even deeper! What difference does it make for us, anyway, the USA is shaking its sanctions in the face, so at least it will be for that! Tired of making excuses! Who did they think they were ?! am
  32. parus2nik
    parus2nik 19 May 2014 16: 05
    +3
    The movement of troops inside the country is our business, NATO conducts exercises in the Baltic states near our borders and nothing .. And Julia, it’s storming ... and thoroughly ...
  33. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 19 May 2014 16: 06
    +1
    Ukrainian authorities, pisses in the eye - God's dew! How to speak with the mentally abnormal?
  34. buzer
    buzer 19 May 2014 16: 15
    +3
    and Brussels did not specify to what depth the troops should be withdrawn ??? Nato from impotence already rude beginning ???
    1. MG42
      MG42 19 May 2014 16: 20
      +4
      In general, about 100 km from the border of Ukraine, Russian troops should be in places of constant deployment, otherwise the State Department threatens Putin with another portion of sanctions and the EU knocks out.
      That now Russia can’t freely move its military equipment across its territory is absurd.
  35. Russohol
    Russohol 19 May 2014 16: 15
    +2
    No, Yulka’s demolition completely demolished the tower. She has gathered in the EU! And she asked whether the gay people would want to embrace a bankrupt country in a civil war in their rainbow embrace.
  36. sabakina
    sabakina 19 May 2014 16: 26
    +5
    Uncle Sam swears ....
    I hope he will "allow" us to leave the border troops?
    1. MG42
      MG42 19 May 2014 16: 30
      +2
      Crouching in front of the State Department is certainly a strong position. So he will force the Urals away.
  37. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 19 May 2014 16: 31
    +2
    Today they took them away, tomorrow they will be there again. That we should transfer troops from Kamchatka to Shakhty, for example. there is also a training ground in the village of Asinovskoye. and finally, our troops, where we want there and transfer. And the "elite" of the so-called Ukrainian politics has too high self-esteem. We need you very much, to throw our troops at you.
    Ukraine itself will deal with you, without Russian participation. Paranoid.
  38. Gerurra
    Gerurra 19 May 2014 16: 35
    +3
    It’s necessary to send these Geyropeans away. Russia’s land, where it is necessary to deploy troops. Enough 1941. Take away the troops from the borders of Russia, here is my answer. The countries of Europe in occupation are my answer. Liberty and independence of the Indians of America. Southern territories of the USA to return to Mexico. Texas independent state.
  39. Serg7281
    Serg7281 19 May 2014 16: 36
    +1
    "Fear has big eyes". It is time to appear in Latin America more often, not only as "white swans" and ships of the Russian Navy, but also by various rapid response units and to conduct exercises near the borders of mattress mats.
  40. demotivator
    demotivator 19 May 2014 16: 44
    +1
    The alliance said that they “did not notice” the withdrawal of Russian troops from the border with Ukraine.

    Didn't notice - and to hell with them! The main thing is different. A sluggish struggle for checkpoints proceeds in the form of ebb and flow: "in the evening THESE depart, and THOS come ... and then vice versa - in the morning, THOS leave, and THESE come." Moreover, for the sake of order, having fired into the air and littered the checkpoint with spent cartridges.
    Why has this "game Zarnitsa" been going on for two months, and why are there no REAL military offensive actions on either side? Because the TEs are waiting for the May 25 elections and are afraid to "go to jail later," and THES are waiting for help from Russia when Putin comes and rescues them (well, like, he sends good green men, as was the case in Crimea).
    The sluggish game of war games is already tired of everyone and few people believe in it.
    The elections will be held on the 25th, Putin WILL NOT RECOGNIZE them, but he will not send the green men to Mariupol either.
    ETI and TE will go back and forth. Probably until the fall.
    Poroshenko does not give the impression of "Pol-Pot or Yeng-Sari" who chopped off the heads of their compatriots with hoes (to save ammunition) and filled (with hoes) about three million.
    Poroshenko, when SELECTED by a legitimate president, will recall his toy amusing battalions from Mariupol and Slavyansk with Kramotorsk and will bargain with Putin.
    Everything has its own price. There is a price for Donetsk and Lugansk. (several lards and discounts on GAZ)
    Will agree!
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  42. marder4
    marder4 19 May 2014 16: 51
    +1
    Tymoshenko in her repertoire, even if she changed the record
  43. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 19 May 2014 17: 04
    +1
    Yes, within an hour our landing will be landed on an area of ​​Kiev along with equipment, and there’s no difference from the border aboard the aircraft with the BMD loaded or 200 km from the border do it, let them think about something else, where they will fall, and not where our troops stand, this is in my opinion they should least care!
  44. ks
    ks 19 May 2014 17: 16
    +1
    But what should Putin as a schoolboy make excuses for? Or is it in the blood of the Russians? Who cares where our troops are?
  45. NKVD
    NKVD 19 May 2014 17: 23
    +2
    Our territory. Where we want to go there and move the troops. It’s not their dog’s business where the Russian army should be located in Russia. There you don’t need to pull up the troops. The militias gave the coordinates. And not Iskander duck Tochka-U flew to them
  46. fregina1
    fregina1 19 May 2014 17: 35
    +1
    Don’t worry, people! I don’t know what kind of orders there are, but I don’t see armored personnel carriers rumble (and when we were coming here, there was a lot of noise to the border! So we keep the gunpowder dry and wait for the denouement in the DPR! Vladimir Vladimirovich is still a strategist! We in any case, on the verge of a grandiose chucher!
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 19 May 2014 18: 45
      0
      Vladimir Vladimirovich is another strategist!
      This is yes!
  47. V1451145
    V1451145 19 May 2014 17: 36
    0
    NEEDS NOT TO BE AWAY FROM THE BORDERS OF UKRAINE. A BORDERS ABOUT THE RUSSIAN FORCES)))
  48. tank64rus
    tank64rus 19 May 2014 17: 39
    0
    NATO should not forget that Putin is not Gorbachev. The troops were withdrawn because the Army should not be waiting for a long time, this is dangerous because it dampens people. Therefore, it is better in PPD, but leave everything in maximum readiness. And getting to Ukraine for 2-3 hours is not a problem. NATO does not harness, therefore, this time interval does not play any role.
  49. w2000
    w2000 19 May 2014 17: 54
    +2
    With their provocations, eastward advance and orange revolutions, the Pendos and NATO wait until we concentrate on the western borders 3000 tanks + 5000 with conservation, 10000 guns and MLRS, tactical missiles and attack aircraft with nuclear weapons. And then they will start liquidizing themselves, and their henchmen from the Baltic-Poland-Romania will pull their tongues into their asses and begin to be massively thrown out of the windows.
  50. Minigun
    Minigun 19 May 2014 18: 06
    0
    The equipment is now good and beautiful with our soldiers!