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The son of US Vice President Joe Biden recently joined the Board of Directors of a gas producing company in Ukraine, Burisma Holdings. The appointment of Robert Hunter Biden for the post is not confirmed by any of the "unnamed sources", but by the State Department. It becomes clear what kind of democracy is preparing to build on the independence of Washington.

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How is the European edition IA "REGNUM"According to official data, Biden Jr. will deal with the legal unit and will represent the company in international organizations.

Here's how Biden's son commented on his appointment: “The Burisma Holdings track record in the field of innovation and leading positions in the field of natural gas production can become a powerful driver for the formation of a strong Ukrainian economy. I think my assistance in matters of transparency, corporate governance and international development can benefit the economy and the people of Ukraine. ”

“The fact that many US state dwellers or their closest relatives quickly get business shares in all countries where the American occupying forces are invading has become a habit since the days of the Iraqi wars and even the destruction of Yugoslavia. So, ex-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright has a business in “independent Kosovo”, and a half-secret one. Joe Biden's predecessor as vice-president of the United States, Dick Cheney, and his family settled in Iraq, it is quite clear in which areas of business. Now it is the turn of the Biden family. Moreover, the US State Department does not see a “conflict of interest” in the work of Biden’s son in Ukraine after the coup d'état. The US State Department is not worried about how Robert Hunter Biden, the son of the US Vice President, will be accepted on the board of directors of the Ukrainian gas company, because he acts as a “private person,” said State Department spokesman Jen Psaki.


Thus, one of the main guardians of Ukraine appeared on the horizon.

IA "REGNUM" reminds that recently, in April, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov reported that Joe Biden, at a meeting with the Ukrainian leadership in Kiev, was sitting on the spot of the head of state.

The site Burisma Holdings reported that the holding owns a license to develop fields located in the Dnipro-Donetsk, Azov-Kuban and Carpathian oil and gas basins.

Nikolay Zlochevsky, ex-minister of ecology of Ukraine, is a member of the directors with Biden-son. Another involved in the case is “family friend of US Secretary of State Kerry,” namely Devon Archer. The ex-president of Poland, Aleksander Kwasniewski, is also on the board, the agency notes. The company itself is not Ukrainian at all, as they say about it, but has a Cyprus registration.

Burisma Holdings received the right to develop shale gas deposits on the independent gas. Moreover, one of the potential fields is the Yuzovskaya Platform in the area of ​​Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, around which the “antiterrorist operation” is taking place.

“Now let's look again at the Ukrainian security forces, where civilians are shot and killed, including civilians. This is all the same Slavyansk and Kramatorsk ... Thus, the “American troops” on the board of directors of the firm “Burisma Holdings” in the person of Robert Hunter Biden, Devon Archer, who followed almost immediately after the head of the CIA secretly visited Kiev and ordered to begin to force operations against Donbass, and there is a reason that the Ukrainian Nazis grew bolder and embarked on the physical destruction of their opponents in the east of Ukraine. ”


An article on this topic appeared in the online edition. "Buzz Feed". Max Seddon, who visited Donetsk, said that the company's Cypriot documents indicate: Joe Biden's son joined the board of directors of Burisma Holdings as early as 18 of April. The journalist tried to take comments from Hunter Biden's assistants about the appointment, but he was refused under the guise of the fact that “no in the workplace”. Press secretary Joe Biden Kendra Barkoff also declined to comment on the appointment of the vice-president’s son.

The journalist rummaged in some open and half-open sources and found out the following.

Burisma is wholly owned by a Cyprus offshore company, Brociti Investments Limited. This company is owned by Mykola Zlochevsky, under Yanukovych, who served as Minister of Energy and Deputy Chairman of the National Security Council of Ukraine.

The author also quotes Putin’s press secretary, Dmitry Peskov. He told Buzz Feed that Russia does not see a conflict of interest in Joe Biden’s actions to separate Ukraine from Russian gas, which is about 60% of the country's total energy resources, while his son works in the gas industry of Ukraine. Peskov added: “In any case, everyone knows that there is no gas in Ukraine. Gas in Ukraine is Russian. ”

So, after the presidential election in Ukraine, the newest phase of gas diversification will start, which (no doubt) will be held under the motto of “independence” of energy supply from Russia.

What will make the slate processors independent, God knows. In any case, in Poland, shale gas is not in a hurry to produce something. It is interesting, of course, what Alexander Kwasniewski, who is present at the Burisma Holdings council, thinks about this ... Money does not smell, eh?

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. +19
    20 May 2014 07: 49
    Only one can bring benefit to Ukraine.
    IF THE USA WILL ALWAYS FORGET ABOUT IT.
    1. +14
      20 May 2014 07: 59
      Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Joe Biden, at a meeting with the Ukrainian leadership in Kiev, sat in the place of the head of state, the glory of Ukraine to the heroes of glory. Typical Baidin majorities will steer Ukraine, a shame.
      1. +6
        20 May 2014 08: 07
        I say that economics is the cause of the whole buoy in the past 10 years.
        Yes, and before too.
        1. +15
          20 May 2014 11: 49
          hi
          Donbass takes the 3-th place in Europe in shale gas deposits.
          In this regard, the last appointments to the private gas company have occurred. Promises to transfer development rights have occurred under Yanukovych.
          After the flight of Yanukovych, these promises were confirmed by the junta.
          And the arrival of mercenaries from the private ovsk PMC Greystone and Academi was connected, most likely, not to participate in the database against the militia of Slavyansk, but to protect the territory of the deposits, but it did not work, unrest began in the Donbass.
          This also explains the loans from the IMF and the obstinacy of the pi_ndos and the junta in relation to the prevention of federalization.
          Since, in this case, local residents and authorities will not allow the extraction of shale gas, because this will lead to the extinction of these territories, in the full sense of the word http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=q3YJitMBHjw .
          But the pyndos perfectly understand what leverage they will have to influence Russia and Western business if they FINALLY resolve the shale issue in Ukraine, which, in the current geopolitics, is literally a matter of life or death for them.
          Thus, in their life they WILL NOT spare neither the life of the Ukrainians, nor the life of the Russians in any quantities necessary for this ...
          1. major1976
            +4
            20 May 2014 14: 32
            I don’t understand the position of the people of Donbas when the Yanukovych government signed an agreement on the development of shale gas deposits in eastern Ukraine !!! As always, my hut is on the edge !!!! No matter how I belonged to the Bandera zapadentsev, but their popular community gave Shell’s rebuff and shale gas production aren’t carried out in the West !!! And now, with the connivance of primarily the people of the East, there is a growing environmental catastrophe in the region, not to mention the fact that underdeveloped children are born !!! There are a lot of videos in YouTube including from Tan !!!
          2. +2
            20 May 2014 17: 34
            I agree completely. Shale is being dug under us, they want to cut off Russian gas from Europe, to deprive the market, income and means of world influence. Lidel-Garth Indirect Action Strategy.
        2. +3
          20 May 2014 13: 40
          And when was it different ?! The economy rules the world! TNCs decide who should be at the head of the United States, where to "unleash" conflicts, where to "rule" the chaos!
        3. +1
          20 May 2014 19: 30
          Quote: mirag2
          I say that economics is the cause of the whole buoy in the past 10 years.
          Yes, and before too.

          The fact that the Americans started everything because of the economy was not a secret. It reminds a recent article about the economy of Bulgaria.
          They sold everything to the Americans, Europeans, and now the paw, since in their own country are not masters.
      2. avt
        +5
        20 May 2014 09: 38
        Quote: ZU-23
        Typical Baidin majorities will rule Ukraine,

        Well, everything is as always and everywhere around the world. Cheney's daughter also ruled oil in Iraq in Haliburton, in the same way in the former Yugoslavia in mines and partly processing amersk bureaucrats float in shares.
        1. +2
          20 May 2014 09: 53
          Quote: avt
          Well, everything is as always and everywhere around the world. Cheney's daughter also ruled oil in Iraq in Haliburton, in the same way in the former Yugoslavia in mines and partly processing amersk bureaucrats float in shares.

          And the black woman will not even get anything in the setup laughing America is no longer sovereign like Ukraine, the oligarchs also rule, and such as the Kolomoisky for them are generally dirty vile hucksters, traitors smile .
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        3. Gloria45
          +2
          20 May 2014 11: 23
          Donbass cleaned up under the business of the son of Vice President of the United States and family friend John Kerry
          ...... But this is half the trouble. After all, before the disclosure of the described fact and in Ukraine itself, few people had heard much about Burisma Holdings. Now the Internet resource reports that allegedly "Burisma Holdings is the largest private gas producer in Ukraine." The company’s website reports that the holding company owns a license to develop fields located in the Dnieper-Donetsk, Azov-Kuban and Carpathian oil and gas basins. All products of the company are sold on the domestic market of Ukraine. The readership will be even more surprised when they find out that yesterday’s “gas dwarf” in the Ukrainian market is suddenly “ennobled” not only by the fact that the directors include Biden Jr., but also ... ex-Minister of Ecology of Ukraine Mykola Zlochevsky, a family friend US Secretary of State Kerry - Devon Archer and former Polish President Alexander Kwasniewski. This Ukrainian company is only approved by interested parties - it is registered in Cyprus .................
          If Russia had not entered Crimea, then the United States would have sat there.

          And now a bloodbath in the Donbass is being prepared to clean up the territory to enrich American officials and oust Russia from the European gas market.

          Ah, liberals, where are you, why don’t you resent the US attempt to occupy Crimea and the nepotism of the Ukrainian authorities ?!

          http://zergulio.livejournal.com/1475603.html
      3. +3
        20 May 2014 14: 14
        Ah yes JOE, oh ​​yeah bitch cat)). They didn’t even bother to somehow veil the whole thing. Although really why ?! Around them, all the second and third grades, and so grab.
      4. +1
        20 May 2014 15: 08
        And how is Biden’s son different from Yanukovych’s son?
    2. +1
      20 May 2014 08: 16
      But how to forget that? Such a piece of cake lies ownerless. Eat - then forget.
      1. +3
        20 May 2014 09: 39
        Sherchel la OIL ..
        Sherchel la GAZ ...
        1. +5
          20 May 2014 09: 55
          Chernozems ...

          Ukraine in terms of mineral wealth is one of the leading countries in the world. Occupying 0,4% of land, it owns 5% of the world's mineral reserves with a total value of over 11 trillion. USD

          According to experts, a quarter of the world's black soil reserves are concentrated in Ukraine. ("27% of the world's black soil is in Ukraine.) Ukrainian chernozems are considered the best in their physical, chemical, agrochemical and mineralogical properties. Chernozems occupy an area of ​​60,4 million hectares, of which 69% are agricultural lands, in the structure of which 78% falls on arable land.
          http://ukrexport.gov.ua/rus/about_ukraine/geo/?country=ukr
          Geographically, chernozems occupy significant areas. In Eurasia, the black earth zone covers Hungary, Bulgaria, Austria, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, the Balkans, Moldova, Ukraine, Mongolia and China, the central black earth regions of Russia, the Volga region, the North Caucasus, and Western Siberia.


          The disappearance of black soil is one of the most serious problems in Ukraine. According to various scientists, Ukrainian land is able to feed 300 million people. (according to other sources, up to 600 thousand) This is possible thanks to a set of measures, in the first place among which is the restoration of the fertility of the land, since over 100 years it has decreased to 2%. Now you can see Ukrainian black soil with 10-12% humus content only at the Institute named after L. Pasteur in Paris.
          http://uateka.com/ru/article/geography/nature/1238

          .. and then do not go to a fortuneteller ..
          Virtues from America Decide Their Strategic Interests
          - in favor of their national farmers
          - reduction of the planet’s population ..
          - and along the way-earn on other people's resources (remember Kuwait, Iraq, ...)
    3. +2
      20 May 2014 08: 17
      A little bit wrong! If Ukraine sends the United States to a known address, then everything will work out! This is not about the junta people!
    4. 0
      20 May 2014 10: 38
      Forgetfulness of mattress covers will benefit many countries, as well as the world as a whole.
    5. non_inc
      +1
      20 May 2014 12: 55
      "forever", "about her". Change the flag to Tajik, Russian fucking.
    6. 0
      20 May 2014 22: 17
      The Ukrainian army will be pleased to know that they are used as cannon fodder for the sake of the Ukrainian oligarchy's sake, but for the sake of a couple of other foreign ghouls. agitation with photographs and explanations for whom and for what they are dying. Moreover, ignominiously and in vain increasing senseless sacrifices. So that a Slav brother killed a Slav brother, and psheks with mattress mats and other vile peoples profited !!! Why? !!! You gave the oath to the oligarchs or to the people? You will never get rid of it! Until your death.
  2. +3
    20 May 2014 07: 52
    Cypriot company documents indicate: Joe Biden's son joined the board of directors

    That's where the real corruption is.
    1. +1
      20 May 2014 08: 03
      Quote: Duke
      That's where the real corruption is.

      and the most cynical. if this is not nepotism then what?
    2. +7
      20 May 2014 10: 22
      Duke
      But your untruth. :))) There is no corruption in the USA - they got rid of it, in one elegant movement - renaming it lobbying. And that’s all. Corruption is gone. :)) In about the same way, we got rid of the shortcomings in the work of the police - we renamed the police to the police. And that's it, now we have no problems in the police. :))) Sleight of hand and no fraud. :))))
  3. +3
    20 May 2014 07: 53
    The US has already begun to share the good in UKRAINE, which they needed.
    1. +3
      20 May 2014 07: 57
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      The US has already begun to share the good in UKRAINE, which they needed.

      Natsionalizalizyya in the DNI-an urgent need!
    2. +1
      20 May 2014 08: 54
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      The US has already begun to share the good in UKRAINE, which they needed.



      We decided to recapture the money spent on the Maidan.
  4. 0
    20 May 2014 07: 55
    This is bad, not at all, and not because of environmental problems, but because geopolitics is a division of spheres of influence
  5. 0
    20 May 2014 08: 01
    There are two sides to the benefit, the first is enrichment, the second is disruption after enrichment ...
  6. +7
    20 May 2014 08: 08
    Here's something like this .. happens (all 23 years of independence) And now the remnants are already being sold openly without hesitation ..
    1. +1
      20 May 2014 09: 54
      After Kuchma, they did not find a leader who could defend Ukraine, this could happen in any CIS country, Lukoshenko and Nazarbayev would leave — it is not known what the Yankees will arrange there.
    2. 0
      20 May 2014 09: 54
      After Kuchma, they did not find a leader who could defend Ukraine, this could happen in any CIS country, Lukoshenko and Nazarbayev would leave — it is not known what the Yankees will arrange there.
  7. +1
    20 May 2014 08: 09
    All wars are waged because of spheres of influence, which in principle is synonymous with obtaining additional profits. At first they were fought for food, fertile lands, colonies, and now for controlled states to sell their goods, technologies, etc.
  8. +2
    20 May 2014 08: 14
    They want to produce gas? Crap ...

    PS Wear gloves to prevent blood from being seen on hands? am
  9. +3
    20 May 2014 08: 14
    Well, finally, everything will be fine in Ukraine - the slaves have found a "good master" for themselves.
  10. +3
    20 May 2014 08: 18
    And there will be a lunar landscape absolutely unsuitable for human habitation on the territory of Ukraine
  11. +11
    20 May 2014 08: 27
    .................
  12. +1
    20 May 2014 08: 32
    Well, it's all about the same. The United States does not really hope that they can keep power in Ukraine, so they are trying to suck out as much of it as possible, as soon as possible, until the pacifier is taken away.
    1. +1
      20 May 2014 22: 59
      What is it ?!
      Americans demanded to rank Russia as aiding countries of terrorism
      The petition demanding that Russia be included in the list of states supporting terrorism, posted on April 23 on the White House website, received more than 20 signatures on Tuesday, May 100.
      Now, according to the rules of the site, US authorities will be required to respond to it. In practice, the White House often shies away from answering many appeals, explaining this by the fact that their topic is not within its competence.
      According to the authors of the petition, Russia is waging an “undeclared war” against Ukraine: supposedly Russian operatives, disguising themselves as local residents, by intimidation and coercion try to influence the politics of Ukraine. The seizures of office buildings, kidnapping and killing, according to the authors of the document, also occur through the fault of the Russian side. In this regard, they call for Russia to be included in the list of countries condoning international terrorism.
      As reminds RIA Novosti, currently the list of sponsor countries of terrorism of the US State Department includes Iran, Syria, Cuba and Sudan. American sanctions apply to these states: a ban on the supply of weapons, a number of financial restrictions.
  13. ran nearby
    +2
    20 May 2014 08: 41
    I can’t even imagine what a howl and screech all over the world has risen if Putin’s daughter appeared in what thread of the DPR company.
  14. 0
    20 May 2014 08: 41
    Interestingly, but Biden does not feel sorry for his son. Otherwise, "arrogant separatists" will come and destroy one of the sources of their troubles. The fact that the son allegedly has nothing to do with the current state of Ukraine simply does not bother anyone. Well, the Americans do not care that they are dying Ukrainians are at war with themselves.
    1. +2
      20 May 2014 22: 04
      What do you think he will come to Ukraine? What did he not see there, that he was given a position at the drilling rig? He will sit in the states, sign a couple of papers a year, hold a video conference, and that’s all his work, and the company’s papers have “beautiful” names.
  15. +1
    20 May 2014 08: 51
    Money doesn't smell, huh?


    The children of Rome follow centuries-old traditions, all for the sake of profit, they are no longer interested in anything.
  16. +1
    20 May 2014 09: 13
    Well come and come. Maybe someone will crash for the glory of Bandera ...
  17. +1
    20 May 2014 09: 16
    It is necessary to demolish this cantor in development and bring down the oblique type to the junta
  18. +2
    20 May 2014 09: 18
    What a new topic))) .... money ... money .... and again money.
    And of course, only their own money can control ... in vain did dad spend so much saliva in the name of democracy.
  19. 0
    20 May 2014 09: 31
    "State Department spokesman Jen Psaki said at a briefing" I must say thank you to her for enriching our culture, thanks to her, the Russian language has replenished with a new synonym for the word Do.r.a.
  20. 0
    20 May 2014 09: 31
    Smell, still smell dear! Sometimes it’s not a hunt to take, though you’ve earned honestly, you’re sickening, you know that you need to feed your family, but still try to get rid of them faster.
  21. +2
    20 May 2014 09: 59
    Here we are shocked by the fact that in Ukraine the Americans will produce gas by hydraulic fracturing.
    And the fact that this environmentally dangerous method has long been used in gas production in Russia is not everyone knows.
    We read the Goroy Encyclopedia (news-mining.ru)
    "... For example, Rosneft currently carries out about 2 hydraulic fracturing operations per year ..."
    According to Wikipedia, hydraulic fracturing Yukos and Sibneft were widely used.
    At Rosneft, the vast majority of new wells are currently being commissioned with hydraulic fracturing.

    Such things, soon in Russia, as in America, tap water from the tap will burn. We watch the documentary film The Gas Country.
  22. 0
    20 May 2014 11: 35
    How much can bourgeois be allowed to take over living space? Especially a stranger ?!
  23. waisson
    +1
    20 May 2014 11: 36
    ATTENTION THE SEARCH WAS SEEN ON THE MAIDAN !!!
  24. waisson
    0
    20 May 2014 11: 38
    ---------------- hi
  25. 0
    20 May 2014 12: 17
    Which gas? What chernozem?
    Valeria Novodvorskaya: Even Russia doesn't need such junk ("Gordonua.com", Ukraine) http://inosmi.ru/sngbaltia/20140520/220435848.html
    Putin needs the Donbass as a stronghold to creep in colorado and pear trees throughout Ukraine. This Gordonua.com said the Russian opposition, dissident and publicist Valeria Novodvorskaya.
    I bastard and trudge.
    This is what foreign agents really fear.
  26. -1
    20 May 2014 12: 30
    Somewhere I saw it ... Oh yes, this is the scenario "Avatar" !!!!!
  27. 0
    20 May 2014 12: 45
    I think that people in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk should know that the "honorable" right to live in areas contaminated with shale gas extraction is granted. This will make them very happy.
  28. +1
    20 May 2014 13: 16
    Girls from the Maidan.
    1. Mih
      0
      20 May 2014 23: 17
      hi
      The girl is pretty, but a fool. Here is a alignment of freaks in Ukraine.
  29. +1
    20 May 2014 13: 24
    Quote: thrower
    Well, finally, everything will be fine in Ukraine - the slaves have found a "good master" for themselves.

    They wanted to go to Europe ...
  30. waisson
    +5
    20 May 2014 14: 32
    --------------- laughing
  31. Arzamas
    0
    20 May 2014 16: 16
    Well, now everything is clear, but I thought that Kwasniewski was tearing his ass in such a way as to return some West Ukrainian lands to Poland, but everything turned out to be much easier ... =)
  32. 0
    20 May 2014 17: 26
    During the USSR and the Cold War, the level of global politics and politicians was, in my opinion, incomparably higher! The moves were calculated, the game was on, there was some kind of strategy. Now rolled down to the level of the Stone Age. They completely stopped hiding or covering up, masking their actions, goals, motives. It seems that after the Third Reich this level of cynicism, lies and immorality did not exist. And they are outraged that the mind and forces are not enough to achieve the desired, but I want to, even the legs are trembling. This is not Zbigniew Brzezinski (see the old wolf Zbigniew who replaced you), especially not Churchill, Roosevelts, De Gaulle. These are frostbitten rural gopniks with stupid faces, running eyes and confused in words, hungry and greedy for someone else's, aggressive and evil. Western civilization, culture, the elite are degenerating. A fair wind to them!
  33. +4
    20 May 2014 17: 37
    Wicked and cunning Putin :-)
  34. ded10041948
    -2
    20 May 2014 19: 23
    They also dug up the news for me! I would be surprised if they could prove that mattresses do not relate to events in Ukraine in any way. And this is .............
  35. Baryamba
    0
    20 May 2014 19: 25
    Everything is much simpler, this company which also owns enterprises in western Ukraine "Pari" and "Zapad Energo" (enterprises of the former Minister of Ecology of Ukraine - Zlochevsky (Party of Regions), this ministry at that time had the ability to influence the acquisition of special permits (licenses) for use of oil and gas resources) at the end of January at the beginning of February 2014 was financed by the transfer of cash from the chief engineer Viytenko Vasily to a member of the Freedom party Vitaly Kotlyarov (who is also their chief geologist) to finance the massacre on the Maidan in February through one of the organizers of this slaughter of the now healthy Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine, member of the "Freedom" party, Mokhnyak Andrey Vladimirovich. So - the parents whose children died, the children whose children died, the parents of the so-called "Heavenly Hundred" can say thank you to the Americans and these people for their deaths .... I Little Baryamba can not lie, and therefore this is a bitter truth
  36. +5
    20 May 2014 20: 28
    Burisma Holdings received the right to develop shale gas deposits on the independent gas. Moreover, one of the potential fields is the Yuzovskaya Platform in the area of ​​Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, around which the “antiterrorist operation” is taking place.
    In the Donetsk People’s Republic, authorities begin to talk about large-scale nationalization. The Yankees will turn inside out to prevent this
  37. Mih
    0
    20 May 2014 22: 44
    The Yankees, sissors, American businessmen, the Americans were just waiting for this. fellow
    Hello ukra! For what they fought, they ran into it.
    ETOGES must be so stupid. love
    Live in a world with a new owner, he will clean you up and you will have a glorious life !! fool
  38. Mih
    +1
    20 May 2014 23: 02
    Are Yankees American businessmen ready to pay your debts? This is not funny. YUSEY have been waiting for you for a long time? fellow
    And ready to fuck your back site. What are you waiting for? drinks
    Hi ukram! For that fought for it and ran.
    Well, you have to be so stupid. love
    Live in a world with a new owner, he will protect you and a glorious life will be with you !! fool
    Tip: in the bath do not turn back to the amers.
  39. +1
    21 May 2014 03: 59
    I read a phrase on the resource - it explains everything: "you don't want to suck a Russian tit, you will suck an American one."
  40. 0
    21 May 2014 06: 09
    Ukraine can benefit from only one thing - to get rid of the American invaders in the person of this "friendly family".
  41. 0
    21 May 2014 07: 18
    It is foolish for Ukraine to believe Biden that the United States will supply cheap gas to both Ukraine and the EU ... cheap gas was only in German gas chamber
  42. 4apaev
    0
    11 June 2014 12: 04
    Dear American United States! Please bring your beloved and badly needed democracy to one of the Saudi states or the emirates. I'd like to see what you get ...