"Prophetic" clip of the group "Caste" for the boys from the Donbass

Almost a year ago my publication came out. "Let's check our watches". For those who are too lazy to follow the link, I’ll briefly remind you that the article partially affected the cult of consumerism and the "greenhouse" of the new male generation. Here is an excerpt:

We are changing. We become consumers. Today in the school of my district, where I grew up and studied (on the outskirts of the city), where I was defeated on 1 on September just because I was from the city center and dressed like a dude, there are already guys in spirit and dress almost like girls, there are no fights and fights! Everyone grows in a greenhouse, well, almost everything. Are these objective processes related to consumer society? - Yes. Do they need to be discussed and alarmed?

Everything would be fine if the words of the clip, which I then cited as an example, with 80% correspond to the realities of today's Donbass and southeast of Ukraine as a whole. Especially since 2: 05

Agree that the words in the song: "wish peace"And"but in peacetime we live"today beat right in the heart?

And now I read an excerpt from the address of Igor Strelkov, who has already made a noise in the network:

Heeding this call, we got weapon. Captured in warehouses, taken away from the Ukrainian military and police, bought from underground merchants for incredible money. And now we have a weapon. It is not deep in the rear - not in Donetsk, Lugansk or Makeyevka, not in Shakhtersk or Anthracite. It is at the forefront of defense - in the besieged city of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Konstantinovka.
In Slavyansk - 120 thousand population, twice as large in Kramatorsk. There are a total of 4,5 million people living in Donetsk region ... But I confess honestly, I didn’t expect that there wouldn’t be thousands of men in the entire region who could risk their lives ... on the front line where they actually shoot every day.
While still in Crimea, I had to listen to stories that when the miners get up, they will tear everyone away with their bare hands ...

What to add? That's it, nothing. Beer, sofa, credits and mistress defeated the instinct of a warrior and a fighter? Or just not enough motivation? Everyone makes a choice for himself. The author of these lines also has his own dilemma. For example, go against their parents, who maydanutye, and, perhaps, did not create their own family. The piquancy of the situation is that once I was a liberal (of which I repented on the site "Military Review" almost 2 years ago) and retreated from the army. Shame on you Of course. Of course, you can indulge yourself, as if I waged an information war long before Euromaidan. But to whom is this easier? Residents of Slavyansk or relatives of victims in Odessa? And the most annoying thing is that I just focused attention on the extinction of the “Russian spirit” of the Southeast. And even gave an example for the same Odessa, even 1,5 a year ago, we read here. Long before Yarosh’s statement that their dream came true and the Bandera army passes the Dnieper, I wrote that year: Supporters of the SS Division "Galicia" are already preparing to cross the Dnieper

In fairness, I note that maydanutye and Bandera are also afraid to go to the front. It is enough to read any comments of the Ukrainian media on the returned military conscription in Ukraine. But this is not warm at all, right?

PS On the avenue and the embankment of my Russian-speaking, but almost Russophobic city of Berdyansk, half-naked consumer individuals walk who simply speak Russian. And in neighboring Mariupol - grief and suffering. What is this, a resort and a comfort zone, giving rise to the illusion of confidence in the future and the association of its material “success” with the Ukraine project? As they themselves like to boast about the network, responding to the reproach of using the Russian language, “70% of Irish also speak English, but this does not prevent them from inciting English armored vehicles.” Only one thing is strange, why have many names Sidorov, Ivanov? Okay, there is already a Russian-speaking Kovalchuk. Thus, in the southeast of Ukraine, a crisis of self-identity and consumerism, coupled with media propaganda, simultaneously overlapped each other. The result is a hellish mixture of indifference and even Russian-speaking Russophobia.

Comments

[Arkan]

The cry of the author’s soul is clear. It is necessary to leave them their fate, let them fully experience their choice, the choice of tumbleweed, on themselves and their children.

[strannik595]

Or is there simply not enough motivation? Everyone makes a choice for himself. The author of these lines also has his own dilemma. For instance, go against your parents, which maydanutye, and may never start your own family. The piquancy of the situation is that I was once a liberal (which I repented of on the Voennoye Obozreniye website almost 2 years ago) and turned away from the army. Are you ashamed? Certainly.

.......... in order to start a family and become a warrior, it is not necessary the consent of the parents (and it is not necessary to reproach them publicly, by the way) ...... minus article .... if Ramzan wrote such an article, a plus

[rotkiv04]

understand correctly, but if everything is left to chance now in SE, then in 5-6 years the same thing will happen in Russia, I’ll say more in Russia that there are already many Janissaries who don’t remember kinship, their past and roots, the last step is left - when the children say that their parents these are their enemies, which is now happening in Ukraine

[Gluxar_]

Quote: rotkiv04

understand correctly, but if everything is left to chance now in SE, then in 5-6 years the same thing will happen in Russia, I’ll say more in Russia that there are already many Janissaries who don’t remember kinship, their past and roots, the last step is left - when the children say that their parents these are their enemies, which is now happening in Ukraine

What will happen? What are "fathers and children"? What kind of panic is in your heads?
All this fuss in Ukraine only bothers us. We do not need the Southeast in its current form. Russia bloodlessly and without any costs annexed Crimea with 2.5 million people. An active population that is clearly aware of its belonging to the Russian world. The situation is unique and unfortunately not yet in the South-East. We got everything we need from Ukraine and restored historical justice. This is accepted in the West. But do not go too far.

Time works against Ukraine and against the West. you can not give them a reason to consolidate their forces against Russia. Without an uprising in the South-East, Ukraine would have gone financially bankrupt for two years, and federalization would have followed without problems, no one would have asked a bankrupt.

Today's path is power, from antagonizing society. It creates an external enemy and all the aggression of Ukrainians will go against Russia, and not against the West and Bandera. Who is actually to blame for all the problems. Sometimes non-intervention is the most effective strategy.

Today, Russia and the Russian People are facing the fact of a bloody bath with the Nazis, they provoke us and we are being fought. Now there is already a fact of reference, and something will have to be done with it. New Russia will return home, but when and at what cost it is now a big question. If blood had not been shed in Ukraine, it would have entered within a year or two. Now the blood can tighten all this, and even hit the Russian economy.

[Gluxar_]

Quote: Arkan

The cry of the author’s soul is clear. It is necessary to leave them their fate, let them fully experience their choice, the choice of tumbleweed, on themselves and their children.

What is the cry of the soul? what is the scream about? About the lost generation or about the political squabbles? Who should fight and why? The fate of New Russia is decided today by Strelkov and his 100 fighters? or is it still the billionth West and Russia?
How much money will Russia lose if real sanctions are introduced? How many thousands of children will die in Russia without receiving proper medical care due to problems in the economy?
Can 100 or 1000 active "men" decide for 7 million of the population of the regions?
I can ask another hundred difficult questions, but dwell on this.

I myself am also very worried about "my" Russians. I am considering the possibility of a business trip as a "tourist" to our neighbors. However, this is my personal opinion and desire and I do not impose it on anyone. I do not advise everyone else to do the same.
Emotions are harmful. You always need to think about what is happening and why.

Hurry is not worth the judgment. Before you act, you need to be well prepared. Russia is doing this now. Which I advise everyone.

[Barboskin]

Well, even though they said their word at the referendum, they don’t want to go to the trenches.

[vadimN]

And what's the point of what their words ...? If tomorrow Strelkov and his fighters are crushed and the right-wing people come to the cities, these same voters will refuse their word and will shout "Glory to Ukraine" from the balconies during the break between TV shows and beer. Any word has weight, if it is followed by a deed, but here the situation is such that they said the word, and they sit and watch who will do the deed for them ...
At first I was indignant at Putin, why our troops are not in Kramatorsk, not in Mariupol, not in Slavyansk ... I changed my mind a lot ... and that Putin was blown away by the sanctions, and that "the Russians are not abandoning their own" - idle talk ... But time passes, the information comes, and I am no longer ready and I do not want to blame Putin not his fault ... And the guys are right a thousand times, but you yourself are worth something, or just drink beer and wait for "the father-liberator "!?

[ussr1960]

There is a word like mentality. The mentality characterizes not only the characteristics of a particular nation, but also people living in one city, one district, one village.
The mentality of Ukrainians has always, even during the Soviet Union, had one special feature - "my house is on the edge, I don't know anything." As a deputy from the communists of Ukraine said on Solovyov’s program, “A fire for a Ukrainian. If a neighbor’s house or apartment is on fire, then the neighbor’s is on fire. And if he’s on fire, it’s a fire.” Repeatedly I have already heard the statements of some representatives of the branches of power from the same Donbass and Kharkiv - "we don't care what flags we are under: the European Union, Russian, Ukrainian or others, as long as there is peace, peace and silence."
This mentality was not brought up 23 years after the collapse of the Union; it was present in all previous generations of Ukrainians. It is laid in their blood. Strelkov, who cannot recruit a thousand fighters, and Putin, who perfectly understands what military assistance to the east of Ukraine for Russia can do later, when the Russians will have to fight the Nazis instead of the suffering Ukrainians themselves, are also right. And Russia the whole world will accuse of intervention.

[viktorR]

Maybe you are right, but there is such an infa: http://vk.com/feed?w=wall-65734190_54681

Everyone heard Strelkov’s appeal SaveFrom.net. The commander rebukes the inhabitants of the Southeast that they do not go to the aid of Slavyansk.

As it turned out today, people are coming. And a lot of people come to the rescue!
But they are turned back by the pest, Akhmetov’s man by the name of Khodakovsky. He was already disassembled in detail by Lev Vershinin

By tonight it is already known about 8 groups of fighters, whom Khodakovsky said that they were not needed in Slavyansk - and sent them back.

Apparently, this Akhmetov's "mole" was left as a last resort in order to weaken the defenses of Slavyansk.

[aleks700]

so it is. But there is a but. This is but Fascism. I repeat, this is a matter not only of Ukraine and Ukrainians, it is a matter of all, and especially of Russia. Such a parallel - in the 1944 year, Soviet troops stopped at the border and did not go any further. Let the Europeans themselves figure out what they need. Can you imagine this?

[Gluxar_]

Quote: aleks700

so it is. But there is a but. This is but Fascism. I repeat, this is a matter not only of Ukraine and Ukrainians, it is a matter of all, and especially of Russia. Such a parallel - in the 1944 year, Soviet troops stopped at the border and did not go any further. Let the Europeans themselves figure out what they need. Can you imagine this?

These are US provocations. As well as the first birth of fascism in the 20th century.

Unfortunately, I must state that the Western project has worked. Less than half a year has passed, and the Russians already hate the Ukrainians. And everyone has already forgotten that the Right Sector and other banderlogs are a small part of Ukrainians. Now everyone already wants to tear at least some piece with the Russians in Ukraine, and record all the rest as enemies ... and the family of fraternal peoples is already without Ukrainians ...
And the Ukrainians are brainwashed with TV and the Russians are already occupiers and there is already a war. And all the sheep just want to add fuel to the fire so that the process becomes not reversible. And now for even a second, think who really benefits from such a development of events in a historical perspective?

[andj61]

Of course, it’s much easier - and more convenient - to watch war on TV or on the network, even if this war is under the windows of your house. This will continue until everyone is affected, until the liver is affected. Have we really become so indifferent? Does someone dear have to die for a man to defend his home?

[sergey32]

The wife’s grandfather left for partisans in 16 years after the punishers burned their hut and raped his mother. After the liberation of the Bryansk region, as he told, many partisans decided that enough to fight, it was time to go home. Some of the throatiest were shot before the formation, the rest went on to fight further as part of the army.

[free]

have we really become so cowardly?! (so right!)

[ed65b]

Quote: free

have we really become so cowardly?! (so right!)

We? No. Our youth perfectly showed it in the Caucasian wars.

[Milana]

[media = // http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = OGAKd8EKs0w]
Alexander Marshall - Ballad of Evgeny Rodionov
How many died of our very young,
but not giving up ...

[Gluxar_]

Quote: andj61

Of course, it’s much easier - and more convenient - to watch war on TV or on the network, even if this war is under the windows of your house. This will continue until everyone is affected, until the liver is affected. Have we really become so indifferent? Does someone dear have to die for a man to defend his home?

Or should we be such sheep to go kill our neighbors, because they told us so from the TV box? Without question and armed with holy faith ... what? In your own right? Based on what? So Bandera also believe in their cause. but no one will sit at the table and try to figure out who is right and how it really was.
Everyone is boiling, no time for the brain to think.

What are they calling for? Get off the couch and go to Slavyansk? How will you go there? Why are you needed there? Do you have combat experience? Do you know the area and do you have operational information about the enemy's positions? How will you get across the border? What if "friends" meet you and take you not to Slavyansk, but to Kiev, there they cut your toes and tell everyone that you are a Russian saboteur who came to kill free Ukrainians.
Even if you manage to penetrate the border and find a guide. what equipment will you have with you? Or will you come in your underpants? What will you eat? Or do you think that there is a rest camp? What will your family do if they make two hundred of you? And even having arrived there and settled down what will happen next? Will you destroy the Ukrainian army? Or all the right-wingers? Or US professional mercenaries? Where is she winning? Where is the way out of the situation?

Nobody, not, or at least not everyone is on their asses. Guys do not solve problems on "street" switches today. Finally, they began to solve the problems of our factories and cities. Finally, they began to give birth to children, and not survive in the harsh 90s. Finally, we grabbed our heads and that's what we frightened the West, there we suddenly realized that we were not in a hurry to die out and self-destruct and we were beginning to set new traps for us.

Do you want to help your country and your People? Act, create a family, give birth and raise at least three children. Build a house and create your own business, produce goods or any intellectual products. Want to show that you are also a man. OK. Lead a healthy lifestyle - always. Train and get fit, team up with friends. Sign up for a hunting club, visit the shooting range on weekends. Leave behind your legacy so that your death does not become the end of your whole story. And only then go to war.

And even in this situation, go not alone but just with your friends in the same unit, trained and coordinated.

[mig31]

Yes, the warriors in Ukraine were transferred, they enslaved serfs, there can’t be all huts from the edge at once, but it can create a female battalion to the shame of men ...

[Uncle lee]

Already the sorceresses joined the militia! This is a shame on the peasants!

[vadimN]

And after that the Maidan people scream that the Russians are a nation of slaves? It seems that only Ukrainized Russians are a nation of slaves.

[Flinky]

The question is, why does the West need a weapon if it has a lifestyle that is the dream of life of any average cattle? If almost anyone can turn this lifestyle into a silent ram with beer on the couch and tales of human rights?
To be honest - I very much doubt that with external aggression of anyone - in Russia it will not be the same ... That most of those whose duty is to protect their homeland will not turn away silently to the TV, scratching their sweaty belly. And from this sucks.

[Siberian German]

You are talking about individuals in Berdyansk - I see a lot of them in Omsk walking along its streets even in the center, where snickering businessmen or officials drive, even on the outskirts where young mothers and fathers go with strollers, sucking beer and smoking a cigarette on their child. And this, unfortunately, is also Russophobia - and the worst part is the Russians themselves who do not think about what they are doing

[yulka2980]

You +! Just yesterday, a grandmother and mother came to meet with cigarettes in their hands, and a child of 3 years grabbed hold of the other hand! It's terrible for our nation, we are degenerating Before it’s too late, it is necessary to start conducting various classes with children in schools, talking about the dangers of alcohol and cigarettes, especially when it comes to girls, expectant mothers!

[Bombardier]

YOU ++++! In a few words expressed everything as it is. In the Lower is the same trouble!

[Milana]

I am joining! That's right, unfortunately.

[Deff]

The emergence of Russophobia:

[Milana]

Deff!!! Thank you for the video, directly tears came to the eyes ...
People have suffered ...

[San_aa]

There is nothing surprising in the article, since the 90s in the former Soviet Union there has been a policy of trampling a "man with a gun" (military, policeman) in the mud. The army was considered a parasite, everyone was scared by "hazing". As a result, "boys" turned into girls. In general, we are reaping the fruits of the democratic trends of the 90s. I am glad that in Russia the state policy towards the siloviki has changed, but the echoes of the past will still be felt in the shortage of STAFF. It is necessary in reality, and not in words, to impose restrictions on holding positions in government agencies to prevent "unserviceable" personnel from accessing the leadership.

[vladim.gorbunow]

So far the best Russian Sergey Zdrilyuk (Abver), a native of Vinnitsa. But he is also the best Ukrainian. And he is a brother to us all.

[Signaller]

Don't worry - the war will get everyone. Who is now a job and a wife, tomorrow they will say, the house was demolished by "Acacia" - the car was crushed by a tank. They will not stay aside. Long harnessed, that's for sure. but the time will come when the Nazis will get everyone.

[borisjdin1957]

from the Don.
What kind of men are they now, what kind of warriors? Especially 80 years of birth! Half of the guys didn’t serve, there’s no idea of ​​weapons. Schools removed military training, physical education in the pen, envy, humiliation of the weak, drug addiction, show off, damn it .. in minors, like hello, selfishness and much more that has come to us with advertising, cinema, mediocre artists. And I have no doubt that in the case of the same events as in Ukropia, we would have the same ass! Consumption is ruining the population .It must be so jerked, affected everyone with trouble, so that the scab: mine, I will scatter: it flew from many!

[kotvov]

I disagree with you, fellow countrymen in the Caucasus proved they were patriots. They drove into their heads, and now they are trying to drive that patriotism is not good. But they still fought and proved that they deserve their great-grandfathers.

[borisjdin1957]

from the Don.
And who are these guys? These are not children of rich Pinocchio, children of ordinary villagers and townspeople, far from glamor.

[kot28.ru]

We have half of the unit since the 80s, before us the 70s and all normal men, though basically everything from the backwoods remained after the term! And in the late 90s and early 2000s, our generation of the 80s worked well in the Caucasus , so I don’t think that everything is so launched in Russia! Although, when I left the contract, many friends said that in vain, more adults! However, I do not regret anything!

[VNP1958PVN]

Strange indignation, taught children according to the American system-EG, polls, questionnaires, nor any patriotic education, and suddenly the results hit someone? Everything is natural

[Zomanus]

The author said everything correctly. "What do I need most of all?", "Give me a job, a salary and I will work for anyone." Most say so. Sailors remember with affection the work for the Amers, when they paid salaries in envelopes. We were just taught that everything can be earned. And if you can't make money, you just have to go to another place. Do you remember Medvedev's words about the fact that personnel should be mobile? So the staff is becoming so mobile that soon half of Russia will live in Moscow and the Moscow region. And the rest will die out quietly. And do not care, in this situation, under whom to die out? And in Ukraine it is the same. They don’t care who they work under, because they don’t see a gap in any scenario. And so there is a newspaper, a TV set, a tit of beer and it's ok What else to strive for?

[Stanislas]

Quote: Zomanus

And so there is a newspaper, telly, a booze of beer and fine.

In the program "Give Youth" they sing: "Jeans, sneakers, a fashionable gadget, Internet access, EVERYTHING IS NECESSARY for those who are only 20 years old." Like this.

[Klim2011]

I will add to the article an excerpt from the song "street magic" (Chelyabinsk) author from Novosib -Uncle Zhenya

In those years wild, when the new government inherited
Minerals and useless population
A wave of violence and confusion looms over everyone
And in the fact that we survived, there is undoubtedly a bit of luck
Century has changed, and the streets remain strangers
It's unfashionable to go for bread, more and more who suck for sashimi

Whole song http://youtu.be/EiAjfkrzr_g

[taseka]

The policy of almost all world powers goes to the soft population - it is easier to manage such a cattle! And the robots will be at war!

[Giant thought]

Everything flows, everything changes. Everything depends on the person, on his spirit first of all. The stronger the spirit, the more difficult it is for a person to break. Therefore, now there is a struggle for the souls of people. The devil with his henchmen mattresses has already won many souls, so we still have a lot of work to counter the inhuman ideology.

[Python Kaa]

I have not decided on the evaluation of the article. First off, I don't like rap. Well, the music of black ghettos cannot be close to a Russian person. An adult can’t listen to how some milk shredders fanatically teach him how to live.
Secondly, as for the vices of the consumer society, believe me, this is all superficial. There are basic instincts, and when they show up, the rest doesn't matter. But in order for a person to take up arms and go to die, he must feel a real threat. And it makes no sense to accuse Ukrainians of being passive. Believe me, in the Civil War, both the “red” and the “white” were mobilized, and not ideological Bolsheviks or monarchists.
As for the Russian-speaking mankurts in Ukraine, there is nothing new here. Ordinary Janissaries.

[Cnukep]

You shouldn't be talking about rap! Initially, it really was ordinary American propaganda, but over time, part of this movement has grown into something more, listen to the Grotto group, only two songs "Frontiers" and "Smoke" and you will not be so categorical. All of the above is a purely personal opinion is natural!

[g1v2]

When this song came out, it was half the guys in the stove on the phones. My younger brother was serving there, and when I arrived she heard her ten times, so she specifically got me, and now I listened calmly and even liked it.

[ed65b]

everyone does what he can, if Nevsky is better at fighting with a pen, then this is his "automatic".

[Obliterator]

We are changing. We become consumers. Today in the school of my district, where I grew up and studied (on the outskirts of the city), where I was defeated on 1 on September just because I was from the city center and dressed like a dude, there are already guys in spirit and dress almost like girls, there are no fights and fights! Everyone grows in a greenhouse, well, almost everything. Are these objective processes related to consumer society? - Yes. Do they need to be discussed and alarmed?

The trouble is sadness - there are less gopniks and punks. Looks like it completely fell from the oak tree if it misses the prevalence of semi-prison concepts among young people.
Is it okay to beat people just because they came from another area? And do not beat - well, have they already become like a woman?

[siberalt]

I watched the clip. It’s a pity, of course, that they are so young and already completely bald. Seenly grown on GMOs. What will happen next? All on one face.


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[Milana]

I watched the clip. It’s a pity, of course, that they are so young and already completely bald. Seenly grown on GMOs. laughing What will happen next? All on one face.
Thank you! So short and precise!
It seems that they miss Sasha Biloma:
he had the same face.

[97110]

In the late 80s he worked as a deputy at a school. Several people who came up from the formation pulled out the cadet and beat him. The line waited for the command "... march" and left on command. And in the days of my youth, it was not recommended to touch the river workers - they resorted so much at the command of "our beats" that it was unrealistic to deal with them. So everything changes and very much. I have read on this topic many times that the state cannot allow a citizen to defend himself. I think some people have come across situations of self-defense and protection with the help of the police (sorry - the police). Agree that individuals who dare to defend (no matter who - themselves, the weak, women, etc.) are removed from society, incl. and for example to others. And the policemen arrive with such an exposure that the showdown is guaranteed to end before they arrive.

[bda]

Quote: Arkan

We must leave them their fate, let them fully experience their choice on themselves and their children ...

A few days before being sent to the soup, the selected geese are hung under the ceiling in special nets and fed, fed, fed (so that they move less and get better fat). The geese in the nets are nice and nice. They don’t think about putting them into soup tomorrow.
And below - in the same goose-yard - other geese walk and wander. They walk and wander, look at the suspended ones with sad eyes and say: "We must leave their fate to them, let them fully experience ... their choice ..."
And the fact that tomorrow, when the place in the nets is vacated, it is they, now roaming below, who will take it, those immersed in sad thoughts about their unreasonable brothers, the geese do not think: this is their choice.

They are both in the nets and below - they are just geese.
And who are we?

[ussr1960]

Everyone chooses by themselves.

[bda]

Supporters of the SS Division "Galicia" are already preparing to cross the Dnieper

They crossed him long ago.
They are already in Moscow - for the time being, as a rule, they are walking around peacefully, wandering around under white ribbons and yellow-blue flags along Sakharov Avenue and Bolotnaya Avenue. Some "advanced" ones carry a more complex Georgian cross on a white background. Some of them are already taking out black-and-red rags.
For a long time already within our limits, and another audience - much less peaceful and more noisy (although it is controlled from the same London, yes New York). These appear with other flags - green and black with incomprehensible Arabic script on the panels. The surrounding people have no idea that "white on black" there are often written sayings about what the carriers of the flags want to do with the "non-carriers".
And at this time, our children are already in kindergartens taught "lessons of tolerance", where unaware aunts themselves explain it to them (in an exaggerated form): "You have to be tolerant of everything that surrounds you. Even if you don't like it. Go you, for example, on the street. You see an uncle with a beard like a shovel, but without a mustache, whose long black flag got tangled, for example, in the branches of a tree. Help him unravel this flag. And the fact that his flag says that tomorrow this uncle will kill you everyone, so it doesn't matter - he hasn't killed anyone yet, and if he did, it means that they themselves were to blame - were not very tolerant. "