In Kharkov, booed the "round table of national unity" of Ukraine

In Kharkov, the next "round table of national unity" of Ukraine was held. First convened the other day in Kiev. Representatives of the southeast, neither then nor now, did not call for negotiations.

On Saturday, 17 May, the meeting was attended by former presidents Kravchuk and Kuchma, the current Prime Minister Yatsenyuk and members of his cabinet. Met them in Kharkov is not the same as in Kiev: the politicians booed.

During the round table, Arseniy Yatsenyuk again spoke about the idea of ​​decentralizing power, broad powers for the regions and a special status for the Russian language. But he did not promise to end the military operation, reports the Russia 24 channel.

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[Nicholas C.]

Rabbit, like any other Jesuit fascist, can not be trusted in principle.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Nikolay S.

Rabbit, like any other Jesuit fascist, can not be trusted in principle.

Yes, nobody can be trusted there! the junta is the junta.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Nikolai S.

new
Rabbit, like any other Jesuit fascist, can not be trusted in principle.

Does anyone believe him?

[mamont5]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Does anyone believe him?

Perhaps, from among the Maidan people, someone else believes.

[Cherdak]

Quote: mamont5

Perhaps, from among the Maidan people, someone else believes.

Speaking of the Maydan people, they yelled that mass rallies against Vladimir Putin will be held in Russia on May 18!
Did at least one come to the head of the patient?
All dermocrats are bashfully silent ...

Maybe this is different?

[from punk]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Does anyone believe him?

Yes, the usual window dressing to the Western masters. The German will come to draw up a report and say, the authorities show confident steps to stabilize the situation and which the people do not support the struggle against the separatists. All elections can be held well.

[voldmis]

They should not only be booed, but also justified ... it is necessary ...

[ALEX74]

What is the unity? To fight with your people? With amers and the EU they have unity!

[kot28.ru]

The rabbit will soon have loose stools, the elections will be soon and the southeast put it on him! Either the sponsors will remove him or their own but he will not have enough time to quack!

[Komsomolets]

It turns out that without inviting representatives of the South-East of Ukraine to the round table of national unity, the junta de facto recognizes their independence ....
"Handsome men"!

[Ruswolf]

Komsomolets
It turns out that without inviting representatives of the South-East of Ukraine to the round table of national unity, the junta de facto recognizes their independence ....
"Handsome men"!

Vyacheslav!
Just the opposite!
Representatives of the DPR were not invited - and will not be invited to anywhere and will not be recognized as an entity, For the reason that the DPR is recognized as a terrorist organization! Nonsense! But this is a fact.

Moscow. 16 May. INTERFAX.RU - The General Prosecutor's Office of Ukraine has recognized the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk "people's republics" as terrorist organizations, the agency’s press service said on Friday.
The First Deputy Prosecutor General of Ukraine Mykola Golomsha noted that, thus, the agency confirms the words of the Minister of Justice Pavel Petrenko that the two so-called "people's republics" created in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions are two terrorist organizations that "have a clear hierarchy, funding and weapons supply channels."
See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/world/376587

[DMB87]

Kravchuk himself is separatist No. 1 and was about to be healed for unity.

[SHURAVI]

He (kravchuk) is the last tvr !!! He and Kuchma did everything to revive Nazism and Benderism in Ukraine !!! They stole for the most "do not spoil". They should be judged together with the egg-smelly, trupchinov and yarosh !!!

[chelovektapok]

Kharkov began to wake up? Or didn’t you just like the performance? The bloody performance of the devils from the State Department box?

[Yun Klob]

It is useless to explain something to these maydaunohuntyaras; they all perfectly understand themselves. They played with weapons to such an extent that they have only two exits - either to bring Ukraine to their knees, or to the gallows themselves.

[Imperial]

A thief on a thief and a thief chases, now they’ve also signed up for executioners, there’s nowhere to put brands on him, if only with green paint on his forehead.

[it is Russian]

hot iron on ..opu!

[Polarfox]

Quote: chelovektapok

Kharkov began to wake up?

Not so simple, dear. I ask you to pay attention to the number of pluses - 247. This also speaks of the opinion of Kharkiv residents. Mostly young.

In order not to break the eyes of those who see poorly, I quote the text of the message from the screenshot:

I’m going today in a raisin minibus (Kharkiv Oblast), watching two girls walking along the street with yellow-blue ribbons on their backpacks. Drove pressed a horn in greeting. Padded jackets on the bus almost went nuts with anger - “We are with Russia! This is American bedding! ... "
Drove silently parked at the bus stop and said:
- Anyone against Ukraine, I ask for a way out. I'll return the money for the tickets. Wait comrades Russian minibus.
And at the end he issued
- I count to three!)))
I was bursting with laughter and pride in Ukraine. :)

From here: http://prikol.i.ua/?p=57

If you still think that Kharkov is awakening, then you are a big optimist, old man.

By the way, this post has 81 comments, the debate is on Russian language.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Polarfox

By the way, this post has 81 comments, the debate is in Russian.

Well, there Bandera sits 34 years old. Take the horseradish from the patient.

[Poldol]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Polarfox

By the way, this post has 81 comments, the debate is in Russian.

Well, there Bandera sits 34 years old. Take the horseradish from the patient.

An officer's daughter?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: PolDol

An officer's daughter?

Yeah, Chief Lieutenant Yarosh

[jovanni]

More like a chamberlain. Black moth, damn it ...

[techmesh]

Maybe I'm wrong, but the impression is that Kharkiv has begun to "turn around", or maybe Kharkiv will still have its say ?!

[Ruswolf]

techmesh
Maybe I'm wrong, but the impression is that Kharkiv has begun to "turn around", or maybe Kharkiv will still have its say ?!

I wish it were so.
But so far, only words that have become quieter.

[chisya]

They were met in Kharkov not like in Kiev: politicians were booed.

How proud it sounds. Booed. Only there, about 50 people gathered, those who tried to boo someone. Here is the whole protest.

There is no southeast. Won in Donetsk Strelkov to collect 1000 people cannot in the militia judging by his interview. Even the women are calling. And you say someone rises somewhere. Yes, all do not seem to care. If in Donetsk and Lugansk this way, further to the southeast it makes no sense at all to try, then the support of the protest mood is much lower ...

[Hariva]

And you know, now in Kharkov and the Dnieper, everything is not bad. Frightened to tear out the remnants of the military-industrial complex, the junta is climbing out of his skin in order to sufficiently subsidize these regions. Pensions are paid (even veteran ones), grocery stores, drug stores.
Hence the amorphous mass.

[chisya]

Yes, I live in Kharkov myself. And everything is really as you say. I would even say that nothing really changed after Yanukovych escaped. Is that the dollar rate. And, as you say, the junta does not subsidize these regions. These regions themselves subsidize the junta. Kharkov and Dnepropetrovsk give more to the budget than they get from it. But Donetsk and Lugansk are exactly the opposite. Unfortunately, I have few friends from Donetsk and the region, so that you can find out what the situation is called from eyewitnesses. But this nonsense about Bandera and fascists on Russian TV is really not clear to me.

We have enough of those who want to be with Russia, but there are no more than 50% of the population. But the key word is with Russia, and not be an independent New Russia. This is even worse than an independent Ukraine.

[sv68]

that is, you honestly agreed that fascists are nicer and more necessary to you than Russia, which means you recognize the support of fascism on ukroin shisya

[chisya]

What kind of fascism? Are you crazy about it?

[SVD]

But fascism is now strengthening in your capital. As fascism became in Germany, a little later, having gained strength, they began a mass sweep. Also in St. Petersburg in 1917, power was seized, and the province lived quietly, only then they disintegrated into civilian service, and in the 37th they received it additionally. And further. Here in Russia, I know that eating is bad, so we ourselves are to blame, we demand little, we don’t achieve it, and we participate in the elections a little. And in Ukraine, all of Russia with Putin is to blame. What the hell? If your garden is overgrown with weeds and nothing has grown, then take a chopper and work until the seventh sweat, and blame it on your neighbor ...

[old man]

analyze the statements of the Maydan politicians, blind man.

[Flex]

But who is the pacifist like?

[Ptah]

Quote: sv68

you honestly agreed that the fascists are nicer and more necessary to you than Russia, which means you recognize the support of fascism on ukroin

Did it sound somewhere? Those. maybe it was written "between the lines"?
Please do not growl, do not be rude, and do not spit on a person. And also do not provoke rudeness in response.
He has as many rights to be on this site as we all.
Opponent with dignity, ask about his vision of the situation, especially since the person himself is from Kharkov. Or do you have absolutely reliable information about what is happening through the eyes of an eyewitness?
Then be so kind as to spell out ...

[Anper]

Quote: chisya

But this nonsense about Bandera and fascists on Russian TV is really not clear to me.

From Rivne.
Yesterday, at a round table, Kravchuk, responding to a quote from Bandera's works about the direction of the party, said: "Devote fascism? We don't have a party named after Stepan Bandera."
From the age of 91 they walked the streets of our city with their flags, publicly celebrated their holidays, grabbed banners with Bulba - Borovets and Shukhevych, renamed the streets, demolished the monuments and did other nonsense - everyone looked at them like crazy. Since 91 years old! And since November 2013 it was no laughing matter. So far they are UKRAINIAN NEDO-fascism - Russian TV is flattering them. How many Odessa and Mariupoli do you need to see it? How many history books do you need to remember that OLIGARHAT DICTATURE (or we have now another?) relies only on Fascism? You remind familiar maydauns that bulge their eyes in surprise when one or another of their actions (you can’t do such a thing - all the foolishness and your promotion of Moscow propaganda music) falls under the signs of fascism.

[chisya]

Well of course. All who do not agree with the position of the Russians immediately Bandera, Maydown and fascist.

[Anper]

Quote: chisya

Well of course. All who do not agree with the position of the Russians immediately Bandera, Maydown and fascist.

Leading a discussion - at the UKROSMI level. I am writing directly - there is fascism in Ukraine. Not yet strong. Please, if you do not agree, give facts and argue your position. WHILE your arguments
1. Are you crazy about it?
2. Pensions are paid (even veteran ones), grocery stores, drug stores.
3.I would even say that nothing really changed after Yanukovych escaped.
4.As if your help sideways you did not go.
5.We didn’t have such marches They prove nothing. Some complex threats and wishes.

[chisya]

Quote: Anper

I am writing directly - there is fascism in Ukraine

There is, but not in the amount presented on Russian channels. And mainly in the western regions. I do not think this level is critical. Several tens of thousands of young idiots and old negatives throughout Ukraine and most of them appear on all kinds of marches there. There would be a desire - you can fix it.

My position is simple. I am against the next branch. Yes, I hope that this election will take place, maybe not this time, but a decent person will appear in power from a new generation of politicians who will not sell their country. It can’t be bad forever. Also, I do not see mass pro-Russian sentiments in my city. There are people for friendship with Russia and there are really a lot of them, but few people want to separate, especially since there will be some kind of New Russia there.

Now there is no candidate from the southeast. Tsarev is really nobody. The rating was 1.5%. Dobkin - no trust in the regionals. Tigipko - took 3rd place in the last election. He sold himself to Yanukovych and joined the party of regions. It is better not to recall the communists.

There will be elections - Petka will win. Fortunately, the people have enough mind not to choose Julia. And there who knows, maybe a decent person from our regions will appear.

[Anper]

Sergey, you probably misunderstood me - we too perceived the remarks with hostility. It’s just that we all, Ukrainians, have been living in the Maydaun informational field of prayers, hymns and storming storms for the seventh month, we are beginning to lose the remnants of logical thinking and, unfortunately, we accept their level communication - any remark that does not coincide with our opinion is not simply not perceived, but immediately we begin to see the enemy. Your opinion is not a single one, it has been voiced and quite logical more than once. Petka will win, Tsarev is really nobody, people have the mind not to choose Julia.. Therefore, I repeat again - Petka - the oligarch, accordingly, will be the DICTATORSHIP OF THE OLIGARCHAT, RELATING ON AND ONLY ON FASCISM. This is not my opinion - these are history and historical terms. And from here - strengthening of fascism, even domestic NEDO-fascism. You say - There would be a desire - you can fix it.. Where and from whom do you see such a desire? Maybe it will be a worthy man in power from a new generation of politicians who will not sell his country or a decent person from our regions will appear.? In this case, look at the stages of the development of fascism - we are now at the point of no return, it will be too late tomorrow. And as for the DNI and LC, we’ll see that at least they are not the first to enact the language law and fight back as they can and how they can. And do not hope for the abstract It can’t take forever. Watch all the videos with Donetsk and Luhansk residents, compare with Maydaun. Not the plot, but the behavior of people. Regards!

[chisya]

Quote: Anper

Yours!

Thanks for your reply.
I am categorically against the current government. But ripping the country into regions is even worse for me.

As the Kremlin said, the lesser of two evils is chosen and the election is just the least. After Petka, someone will also be president. And in Europe, the attitude to Nazism and fascism is quite strict. And since our puppet power, there is hope that the Europeans will not let the different nationalist parties stand on our feet. And while such parties are not in power, this is not so critical. The trouble will be if such people have legitimate authority.

But the ratings show that at the re-election to the Rada, there will be neither Freedom nor the Right Sector in the Rada. So the people are still not massively crazy.

[Anper]

Quote: chisya

And in Europe, the attitude to Nazism and fascism is quite strict

I don’t see. Look at the official statements about Odessa. About Mariupol - nothing at all.

Quote: chisya

And while such parties are not in power, this is not so critical. The trouble will be if such people have legitimate authority.

My native memory will provide. We have a bunch of banners here - Give the Third Maidan! There is no oligarch power! Yarosh is our president!
In general, your words about people are still not massively crazy yes to god in ears

[Suhow]

It seems to me that in comparison with Lyashka or Tyagnibok, Yarosh is still adequate.

[Ptah]

Its "adequacy" in its constancy ...

[Flex]

you have a good opinion about the EU and America after the defeat by them of Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan --- this is Nazism that you do not see

[Suhow]

BUT, unfortunately, Petro is flirting with them. The Nazis now have a great influence on the future, too, plus they have weapons and personnel and they can quickly deal with those who are dissatisfied, given the support of our pro-Europeans. Then, when they understand that it will be too late to go there. Now They want to close the door to the noise, they will close the regions, etc. I AM THE IMPRESSION OF GERMANY IS CREATED FOR 37 YEARS I CAN'T DO ANYTHING TOUCH. Everything is wound up and the authorities warm it up and keep my heads cool and think what’s what.

[Gloria45]

Quote: chisya

There is, but not in the amount presented on Russian channels. And mainly in the western regions. I do not think this level is critical.

What does the critical or non-critical level of the fascists mean?
By the definition, there shouldn’t be any of these! And your government consists of fascists! What level are you talking about?

[Erg]

Dear, my suspicion crept in that you are 10-12 years old. No offense

[Turkir]

Decent people will appear, but for now, live with indecent people.
You would be sitting in the garden. the weather is nice (there are daisies, tell them if they’re lucky or not lucky), and politics will find you. Politics indecent woman, she will get you in the garden.
But maybe you're lucky ..
----------------
A joke man - fell from the 20th floor, flies and mutters: while everything is going well.

[Suhow]

From Kiev, I confirm there are few pro-Russian moods, on the contrary, there is no leader you can trust, they’re all in some kind of deputy. Now, as usual, they promise the golden mountains, yes, no faith. Another half of the candidates hate Russia, although I have nothing to blame for the mirror if my face is crooked .In general, the choice, as always, is to choose a smaller one from a big gov. THERE IS SECRETLY UNDERSTANDING SOME LESS ... FROM THEM.

[MG42]

Quote: chisya

Well of course. All who do not agree with the position of the Russians immediately Bandera, Maydown and fascist.

It was not you who shouted “Glory to Ukraine!” Yesterday on Freedom Square, then ran and looked around?

[chisya]

Yes you are a joker These screamers remind me of animals. One screams, the crowd picks up. I didn’t move enough to scream like that.

[old man]

No, of course, not everything, but sitting stupidly watching Ukrainian TV and not understanding anything, not doing speech analysis, blindly believing that everything is fine and it will not affect you is stupid.

[Erg]

Cho, still do not understand what everything is going to? Take a tutorial

[chisya]

Quote: Anper

From Rivne.
Yesterday, at a round table, Kravchuk, responding to a quote from Bandera's works about the direction of the party, said: "Devote fascism? We don't have a party named after Stepan Bandera."
From the age of 91 they walked the streets of our city with their flags, publicly celebrated their holidays, grabbed banners with Bulba - Borovets and Shukhevych, renamed the streets, demolished the monuments and did other nonsense - everyone looked at them like crazy. Since 91 years old! And since November 2013 it was no laughing matter. So far they are UKRAINIAN NEDO-fascism - Russian TV is flattering them. How many Odessa and Mariupoli do you need to see it? How many history books do you need to remember that OLIGARHAT DICTATURE (or we have now another?) relies only on Fascism? You remind familiar maydauns that bulge their eyes in surprise when one or another of their actions (you can’t do such a thing - all the foolishness and your promotion of Moscow propaganda music) falls under the signs of fascism.

We did not have such marches. And what do you suggest? Separate and become nobody recognized by Novorossia? It will be even worse than it is now. They will not take to Russia. And what in Russia is not the dictatorship of the oligarchy? Or the oligarchs will not be in the independent New Russia?

You get me right. I do not believe in either the EU or America. Us as usual take advantage of our interests. But what a real choice we have. Is it better that way than once again to separate, survive the next redistribution, especially who are the so-called leaders of the DPR and the like? Thieves and bred, one so generally was the main MMMshchik area. And to entrust these people with the so-called new country? Oh yes, they will guide.

[Anper]

Quote: chisya

. And what in Russia is not the dictatorship of the oligarchy?

Imagine no. This is not because I am so sympathetic to Russia - this is a historical term in which not only you are confused, but also our new leadership, calling the DPR and LPR a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION, not knowing the definition of terror and organization (according to the UN definition) .Learn the story-with this we have in Ukraine tight!

[Suhow]

in Ukraine, history is written under the new government, then rewritten under the next.

[Turkir]

And what do you suggest? Separate and become nobody recognized by Novorossia?

If it depends on you, then urgently separate, we will definitely recognize you and make you an oligarch. As an exception.
Or sit and wait. They will come to you.

[SHURAVI]

Redistributions in Ukraine were all 23 years after the collapse of the USSR !!! In your opinion, "... to survive the next redistribution ..." - this is another 5 years of continuous chaos, theft, impoverishment of the people, to add to this the dictatorship of the fascists, the transformation of Ukraine into a "banana republic" under the "heel" of the US and the EU !! ! Do you want such a future for yourself, your family, your children and grandchildren? !!! And this "in your opinion" redistribution will be constant, from elections to elections !!! The Ukrainians have only one way-to sweep away this trash Bender-fascist together with poroshenko, Kalomoytsy and the like, and in every region to hold referendums !!! The people themselves will decide whether Ukraine is united or not !!! There is NO other way out and solution !!!

[Gloria45]

Avakov publicly reprimanded for the Round Table

Something similar begins in the USA.
American Spring: Mass Demonstrators in Washington Protest White House Politics

The "American Spring" has come to the USA. So activists called a series of mass protests against White House politics. The first of the planned rallies was held in Washington. Protesters took to the streets under the slogan “Arrest Obama!” and "Obama lost!" The main demands of the demonstrators are the resignation of the President, Vice President and Attorney General of the United States and the closure of all US military bases abroad. The rally organizer, a retired American officer, is confident that in the coming months, the "American Spring" will cover the whole country.

18 May 2014, 03: 42
photo: © RT
The organizer of the American Spring campaign, Colonel Harry Riley, accuses the administration of President Barack Obama of violating the principles laid down by the founding fathers of the United States, reports the English-language portal rt.com. The resignation of White House head Barack Obama, vice president Joe Biden, Senator Harry Reid and other key American politicians is just one of Riley’s like-minded demands.
The colonel accuses the American political elite of abandoning the country's constitution. According to him, representatives of all branches of government consider dissatisfied ordinary Americans, whom they promised to serve under oath, as "wreckers" who in every possible way prevent politicians from achieving their greedy goals.
Under his banners, Riley promised to gather from 10 to 30 million people, that is, up to one tenth of the total population of the United States. However, while only a few dozen of like-minded people took to the streets of the US capital. Nevertheless, many of those who nevertheless got to Washington to take part in the action are very determined.
Some came from very remote corners of the country from the capital: Arizona, Iowa, Texas. A few days before the demonstration on the American Spring website, the user left a message that he had specially arrived on a tractor, having covered a distance of 2750 miles in two days. Also, some demonstrators were not going to disperse at the end of the day, but planned to stay in the capital for a long time and even to pitch a tent camp.


Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/32390#ixzz323bklGvn

[Aleksandr65]

But this nonsense about Bandera and fascists on Russian TV is really not clear to me.

It is incomprehensible because you are raving.

[Katyushka]

Go to the HOGA website, http://kharkivoda.gov.ua/en/document/index/type/1 starting March 3, 2014 (date of appointment of the governor) and see how much money (orders) was withdrawn from the regional budget, and because the sowing is with us. And what will we and our children eat in the winter ????

[Erg]

Returns to Winnetou from intelligence to his tribe and reports to the leaders - I have two news, good and bad, where to start? - start with the bad. "The palefaces killed all our buffalo, in winter we will have to eat buffalo g ... but the buzz of regret." And now the good news - there is a lot of shit, we will not die of hunger. "Sorry for the black humor. But the situation is similar

[old man]

You are being fed at the expense of Russia. 3,5 lard for gas, 9 lard investment debts that Ukraine does not pay. When you pay then and get "abundance" (all the money will go to pay off debts), do not pay off the cranks will come very quickly.

[sv68]

well, continue to exist for yourself as slaves of chisya and Strelkov has enough people, but not enough, we will definitely come to the rescue

[chisya]

Quote: sv68

well, then continue to exist as slaves to yourself

And where did you get the idea that we exist? And even more so slaves? Maybe we live better than you? Or do you think we are all beggars under the yoke of Bandera? Well Putin TV is it.

It’s okay to argue and prove something is useless. You have already formed a certain opinion. As if your help didn’t come to you sideways ... those to whom you are trying so hard to help once again with ease will call you invaders and again m * rocks will be to blame for all sins.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: chisya

Maybe we live better than you?

Of course it’s better, Russia will soon be Khan

Quote: chisya

How would your help sideways then you did not come out ..

Watch the Ukrainian channels further, degrade, jump higher. Hto don’t skip that maskal-Yes. Uncle Sam will help, flood Ukraine with money, he’ll drown them in them

[chisya]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Watch Ukrainian channels further

Do not believe it - I do not look. There is even more delirium than in Russia. Probably more GRU saboteurs have already been captured than they even exist.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

degrading, jumping higher -Hto do not jump that masculine-Yes. Uncle Sam will help, flood Ukraine with money

Thanks, I can somehow do without it. I will leave this opportunity to monkeys on the Maidan

Judging by your answer, all who do not share your opinion are stupid galloping under chants. With such a position you will not go far.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: chisya

Judging by your answer, all who do not share your opinion are stupid galloping under chants

Not all, only those who do not notice fascism.
In the fall of last year, I told Kars and Akim that the country was heading into the abyss, to which I received an answer about my dementia. Although everything was still predictable then. Now you are saying that there are no fascists, what can I say, one of us is definitely blind.
It will be interesting to read your comments in a couple of months.

[Ptah]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

It will be interesting to read your comments in a couple of months.

Me too, Sash. And also listen to "Akim" - what will he say now ...
Therefore, I think that the site contains such as "chisya". After all, he quite politely answers the questions asked to him and does not snarl at provocations and rudeness of the rest of the members of the forum.
Not that I completely agree with his position, but it is useful for self-education.

[Lelek]

Yes, in bouncing dill, they outdid the Shambu-Nyambu tribe. Ukraine is the champion! They (Ukrodertals) even surpassed their sponsor sponsors. Geniuses, what to take from them.

[anfil]

In Kharkov, booed the "round table of national unity" of Ukraine

Let's try to objectively watch the Russia24 news video, how they booed and how many Kharkovites expressed their dissatisfaction. (with 18-21 sec. and with 33-35 sec. clip.)

[Erg]

Well, let the boys earn extra money on the crowd. At the same time, the world "community" will make sure that in Ukraine with free-thinking order

[thinker]

Or do you think we are all beggars under the yoke of Bandera?

[MG42]

That in Kharkov there are no maydown actions, after a fight with ultras, because nobody will treat you humanely anymore.
And in Odessa, 200 Kharkiv people were shooting people in the house of trade unions, a fact that could not be washed off by the ultras and in combination with local law-breakers.
Yes, these useless rallies were tired, here the Communists tried everything peacefully, they burnt their office in Kiev, burned, and Simonenko barely escaped the day before yesterday in Kiev, Modern Realities.
Avakov catches up so many cops to Kharkov well, it’s useless to storm, it’s necessary a crowd of several. thousand

[MG42]

You were treated with humanity by maydaunas, they were put up with cancer and smeared with green stuff, you need to set brains more rigidly.
And this is on May 9 about 50 people you obviously got excited >>

[chisya]

Quote: MG42

With you maydaunami

I see you're still a nerd ...

set cancer and smeared with green stuff

If you are talking about when the visitors from the regional administration were pulled out and whom the cops saved, then they need it.

And this is on May 9

I said it myself. This is May 9th. And 50 people were yesterday. And what does yesterday's screaming rally on May 9 have to do with it? Where is the connection? People went out to celebrate the holiday. Or is May 9 an indicator of the separation of the Kharkov region from Ukraine? I myself celebrate. Like all normal people. My grandfather fought. He was awarded the Order of the Red Star.

And for the fact that you enlisted me in the ranks of these freaks only because I am for the indivisibility of your country, I can tell you one thing - you are a sick person.

[MG42]

Quote: chisya

And for the fact that you enlisted me in the ranks of these freaks only because I am for the indivisibility of your country, I can tell you one thing - you are a sick person.

kva kva kva, you are not on the Censor, in the controversy
how to live with these woodpeckers in one apartment, the best way out is federalization, Kharkiv region. I’m just after Dnepropetrovsk on the budget revenues we have my own gas and the natural and shale floor in Shebelinka Ukraine provide its total production. Kharkov was the capital of Ukraine before the war, we have where you can restore the ministry in Gosprom.

[chisya]

Yes, you understand. I am categorically against the current government and their actions. I just don’t want Kharkov region to become some kind of New Russia. Nobody will take us to Russia. There is too much pressure on Russia now. And it is unclear how many decades in autonomy it is very undesirable to hang.

Have you personally seen a lot of such woodpeckers in our country? I’m not one. You can of course scare that they will come to us, etc. but it’s all written with a pitchfork on water.

Here you have the way about 50 people at the top posted a video. Thanks anfil. So there are more police than protesters.

[MG42]

Quote: chisya

Have you personally seen a lot of such woodpeckers in our country? I’m not one.

There is
1. Ultras of the Metallist who sing the song "Putin = *****".
2. Students from other cities of whom thousands study at local universities.
Video Kharkov April 12, 2014 a monument to Shevchenko.

They galloped, then darted from us.

[chisya]

Video Kharkov April 12, 2014 a monument to Shevchenko.

I really didn’t see this. P full. Here they are our educated students. Shame and only. And all are young. What awaits us in 10-20 years.

They jumped, then darted from us

Well, maybe the brain will increase.

[Russ69]

Quote: MG42

They jumped, then darted from us

Kharkov, it started well at the time ... But then they completely overlooked the situation ...
MG42, as I understand it, you are from Kharkov ...
What happens there and what moods?

[MG42]

Quote: Russ69

as I understand it, you are from Kharkov ...
What happens there and what moods?

Yes, a long story to tell, now I have to run away on business in the evening, unsubscribe.
I shot this video myself on the mobile when we drove the maydowns

[Russ69]

Quote: MG42

Yes, a long story to tell, now I have to run away on business in the evening, unsubscribe.

Write, and then chisya, he kind of outlined his vision, but one opinion is not enough to understand better ...

[chisya]

Quote: MG42

best way federalization

Well, who is against it. I'm all for it. Only here federalization provides for the expansion of the powers of the region as part of Ukraine. And Donetsk and Lugansk want to separate at all. If you are about separation, then our neoplasm will be clamped in a vice and that’s all. Russia really has to feed us. Now our region is prosperous, including for international contracts, business, investments and all that. Now imagine the blockade from all sides except Russia. Plus there will be a bunch of provocations from the side of Ukraine, which will remain. There’s also a bunch of people who really won’t be happy about separation. And these are potential terrorists and saboteurs. We will not have a calm life, for sure.

[Russ69]

Quote: chisya

Now our region is prosperous, including for international contracts, business, investments and all that.

Only now the bulk of the products went just to the Russian Federation. And be all right, the defense industry and the aircraft industry began to develop very quickly. Pulling a bunch of allies and stuff ...

[old man]

In any case, a quiet life will not be a fact. Now the Americans will sit back and buy everything from you, and you will serve them in India during the time of the British Empire.

[reinat]

I read all your posts above, think correctly and adequately.
And the fact that you are immediately called a fascist here, these are people who see only black and white, and there are no other colors for them. This is just from the category - "who is not with us, is against us", this is the same as - "who does not jump, he ..." both victims of their propaganda, although UkroSMI will be hard to beat.

[11111mail.ru]

Quote: chisya

just because i for indivisibility of his country

Would be your ancestors (up to 1917 of the year) put this common sense into your head!

[Aleksandr65]

Materially, many live in Ukraine not bad. Till. Live even better for God's sake! But you are real slaves, since you calmly accepted the Odessa horror, the Mariupol massacre, the anti-terrorist operation against those who disagree and are going to vote for people who have not only not condemned all this, but also support ...
By the way, I look and ukroTV, and PutinTV, and CNN /. UkrtTV is tin, this is p-ts!

[Anper]

Quote: Aleksandr65

Live even better for God's sake!

Material for 3D perception of the situation in Ukraine.

[Anper]

And here is an interview with him on a sober head

[pensioner]

Quote: chisya

Maybe we live better than you? Or do you think we are all beggars under the yoke of Bandera?

I saw how you live. In December, he was on a business trip in the Sumy region. About the same way we lived in the early 2000s. And it’s better to keep silent about production. 2 small strokes:
The head of a large enterprise has a CRT monitor on the table (!!), and the salary is about the same as mine (in rubles), a simple engineer.
-In the parking lot in front of the control, the most expensive car that Lancer saw is the tenth.
And what I saw actually in production is darkness. Poverty (8 tons of tanning salons - unbearable money for the enterprise), machinery - the last century, hard workers also have no sensible overalls. Salary-tears. And the prices are about the same as in Russia. You know about gasoline. So I thought that it’s hard for you. But it turns out that what I saw is your normal state. Well then...

[chisya]

Well, everywhere in different ways. As if in Russia there are no collapsed factories and enterprises. I spoke generally about my city, not Ukraine. The difference across regions is quite large. Kharkov is relatively well.

[pensioner]

Quote: chisya

As if in Russia there are no collapsed factories and enterprises.

I’m not going to write WHAT this enterprise is, but I assure you that Ukraine considers it a valuable asset.

Quote: chisya

The difference across regions is quite large.

Oh come on. Our Ukraine before me almost all of the East to West passed, the contract was fulfilled. They spent several months in Ukraine. Everything is about the same. Plus or minus. Your leaders didn’t pay us money by the way. About 100 million rubles. And hardly pay. Nevertheless, your state is unique: you did not try to ... deceive a rare country in general. Well, maybe the USA. Well here is another story ...

[Alexander 3]

and you are not scribbling your scribble from the Maidan?

[Russ69]

Ah, what about chisya? As for Kharkov, he correctly said ...

[11111mail.ru]

Quote: Russ69

Ah, what about chisya? As for Kharkov, he correctly said.

It is his loving sipped, I did not minus. He sang correctly about the oligarchs.

[Kasym]

Yes, it was interesting to read the discussion by chisya and MG42. I see it that way. One believes that "you can sit aside and everything will settle down," the other, that it will not work.
But only (for chisya) the economic situation is getting worse. It is not clear that with the harvest (there are also obligations to the PRC for grain) - what will you eat in winter? A lump of gas debts is growing, how will you heat up in winter? The growth of the cent and the depreciation of the hryvnia. Salaries and pensions - delays and reductions. The fall in industrial production, already at least a third of the loss of exports. Unemployment and layoffs. And as a rule, all the deteriorating collection of taxes and the filling of the treasury-debts more and more. In short, dissatisfaction will grow. And now I think it might not work out to sit on the sidelines. Moreover, the authorities are "proclaimed" who work off "grants" and they do not care about the interests of Ukraine and its citizens.
By the way, the income level in Alma-Ata is higher than in Kiev at the time of the summer of 2013. AI-95 gasoline $ 0,85 we have now.

[Aleksandr65]

The communal apartment will grow FOUR times in 4 years. At the same salary. Those. -thousand hryvnia pension -and a thousand hryvnia heating of the 1st apartment, (eat, ride, electric, gas, telephone is your problem!). Plus insurance medicine (these ukronivnyaki have not even heard of it!). Minus the whole industry and agricultural. Everything has already been implemented in Moldova after the same coup as in Cueva, but 4 years ago. But experience is not good ...

[A1L9E4K9S]

The junta didn’t have long to reign, even if elections take place on May 25, Poroshenko will immediately remove all those involved in the junta and dissolve the parliament. Most likely, a shadow government has already been formed there, Poroshenko will be elected president, unless of course Yulka removes him earlier.

[pravda2014s]

I don’t understand where the Kharkovites look, do not they really understand that they have no future in the so-called Ukraine. No to get up, stand up so they just whistle and that's all ... :(

[VNP1958PVN]

Until the State Department resolves who will stop!

[tokin1959]

If you still think that Kharkov is awakening, then you are a big optimist, old man.

By the way, this post has 81 comments, the debate is in Russian.

and before the Crimean referendum you did not go to the forums of Kerch, Armyansk, Simferopol?
judging by what was written and discussed at these forums, it might seem that not a single person will go to the referendum and absolutely no one wants to secede from Ukraine.

but in reality it didn’t work out as they say on the forums.
Information war.
people get paid for posts, likes, clicks,
There are several thousand people sitting on dozens and hundreds of sites and forums.
and create - the necessary information background.

so - everything is ambiguous and relative.

[Poldol]

On the Sevastopol site "outpost" there were two odious trolls - "Santa Claus" and "Yesterday's Dream". Each has about 50 comments. They were fed, mocked over them, so that the stupidity of the Banderlog was visible, so to speak from the first lips. But, alas, after the Crimea and Sevastopol returned to their homeland, these trolls left the "mortal world". Apparently the owners considered it already unpromising to pay for trolling the Sevastopol site. Amen.

[Giant thought]

The next games of the junta with a known result.

[jktu66]

current Prime Minister Yatsenyuk and members of his cabinet.

Let’s even call VO correctly - the so-called prime minister of an illegitimate government

[yushch]

ROUND I. DIOTS GATHER AT THE ROUND TABLE). RESULT: I. DIOTS IN SQUARE))

[The point]

it can be said round.

[mig31]

How did they get to Kharkov with their "liquid chair" and at the "round table" !?, it's time to finish on the spot ....

[kelevra]

It was necessary to throw them with lighters! Damn the filthy!

[northern]

A very weak attempt to show that they still rule something and influence something.

[Balamyt]

Something a little late they started it is, it seems to me, a useless thing. The country has already split, and this is a fact. People had to listen earlier! Now we need to think not about how to live together, but about how to disperse in a civilized way!

[wax]

Before the election, the cuckoo is nightingale poured. By its deceit and provocation, the level of hatred towards all the others, the junta under the leadership of the State Department in some places even surpassed the Nazis.

[subbtin.725]

Burn these scumbags in hell. You need to urgently capture border-crossings, Srelkov need professionals. God help.

[Cristall]

I do not think that For Ukraine it is necessary Against the Russian Federation
There is a common Homeland, For me, the Motherland is the USSR as part of the USSR.
And so I did not share. Another thing is that if we consider Ukraine that it’s sitting in Kiev, then Ukraine is "bad" ..
The Ukrainian flag is generally clinging to designate patriotism and if it is confused with nationalism (as the radicals do and simply), then we can say that it is a sign of support for the Kiev policy of fascism (although Kiev itself does not solve anything here and it is not fascist but others are engaged in fascism) people)
On the other hand, in general, flags in Ukraine are a kind of red rag. Euromaidan carried the EU flag, and now it is blamed for the flag of the Russian Federation for using the flag of another state in Ukraine ..
On the other hand, the flag of the Russian Federation is a flag of Russian unity and not necessarily a transition to Russian citizenship, as many believe.
In general, all this is insinuations .. And everyone thinks that he is right ... and everyone aggravates that indeed the flag of the Russian Federation is already becoming state on the territory of Ukraine ... confirming that
It doesn’t matter under what flag Ukraine will be put in order!

[Sour]

What a good reason to be proud of Ukraine!
When there is nothing more to be proud of, then you can be proud of the cattle driver.
Drop off passengers is easy. Paying for gas is harder.

[Lelek]

Round table? What is it round, if the Nazis are at the head of the table, the Nazis are on the right, two traitor degenerates and only two normal people from this whole mosquito on the left. Lord, do not bring such peacekeepers.

[The point]

Such friends, for x ... th yes to the museum. Preferably in the Kunstkamera.

[silverwolf88]

In general, in my deep conviction, Kharkiv citizens completely missed (and therefore did not really want) their chance of federalization.
Yes, you can boo ... you can go to the rally a couple more times ... but the majority of the population does not actively oppose official Kiev ... so basically everything suits them.

[MG42]

Much has been said about this, which is to pour from empty to empty. First of all, leaders and organization. There are all the masters tryndet on the Internet, here is a typical picture under the Kharkov Regional State Administration when the rally on Freedom Square, go and grab if at least 500 cops oppose.

[Russ69]

Quote: MG42

here is a typical picture under the Kharkov Regional State Administration when the rally in Freedom Square, go and capture if at least 500 cops are opposed.

You took the RSA before, but then you yourself released it. When Og was already taken under specific protection, it was like they seized the city administration, and again they gave it back ...

First of all, leaders and organization.

With these sad, of course now ...

[combat66]

Quote: chisya

Several tens of thousands of young idiots and old negatives throughout Ukraine and most of them appear on all kinds of marches there. There would be a desire - you can fix it.

Why do you think that only Russians consider Ukraine pro-fascist?
Believe me, many Belarusians have the same opinion. It does not matter how many of these scots you have, it is important that you have already done with them. And judging by what you are saying here, you belong to the usual "herd", which is fed, grazed, milked, and then slaughtered. It doesn't matter what you are trying to prove here about a free Ukraine, about finding a worthy leadership ... nonsense! The herd needs a shepherd and you will have one, or rather already have one. Whatever one may say, this medal has only two sides, you cannot sit on the edge. You are now either friend or foe! Russia for its inactivity in previous years has already "received" and will apparently receive for many years to come. But, with God, he will get out, if he does not give will to a similar swamp. And your choice is clear. You have not yet learned to understand that wherever the "herd" grazes in the east or west, it will remain the subject that is fed, milked and cut.

[stranik72]

It is not so simple with Kharkiv Dnepropetrovsk and Odessa, those who could become the leader of the movement were intimidated, arrested, some people just disappeared, look on the internet, there is a problem and it is that the Russian special services need help in the fight against fascists-Bandera , the West helps its own, and we are shy.

[Status]

Quote: chisya

What kind of fascism? Are you crazy about it?

Which one? Ordinary fascism.

[Repty]

Quote: Komsomolets

Komsomolets (2) Today, 06:14 a New
It turns out that without inviting representatives of the South-East of Ukraine to the round table of national unity, the junta de facto recognizes their independence ....
"Handsome men"!

The right thought. A plus.

[3vs]

It seems that Ukrainians are some kind of mental illness.
Eighty percent of the population speaks excellent Russian,
natively in their own language, no need to prove to anyone in any way
and to myself, too, that "we are not them, we are another nation" and only the artificial Ukrainian language is acceptable on this earth.
This infection is spreading like a viral epidemic.
Need medicine, urgently.
If it does not help, then only amputate the healthy part of the body.

[Erg]

Doctors are preparing for surgery

[capex1]

This whole round table at stake without trial and investigation !!!

[anfreezer]

chisya "And where did you get the idea that we exist? And even more so as slaves? Maybe we live better than you?" Yah.... Maybe it’s in our building on Lubyanka that the sound of American boots is heard, the American flag flutters over the building, and the Yankees hand the diplomas to the graduates of the FSB Academy ... maybe it’s our country's leaders who stand behind the Western loot (!?) .... and so on. d. Maybe our country is controlled by the so-called oligarchy, but it falls into the budget, in addition to pockets (yours cannot even scrape gas, don’t want anything), but they’re against it ... They earn money, let others earn money (for those who want to, of course ), I’m my own boss, they’ll really help me, but I hope that I’ve come back with a greater social responsibility of money in connection with the current situation in the near future (it’s time already!) ... And again, you are going to work for us, not us to you ..It is so that on the surface, I do not dig deep ..

[chelovektapok]

The opinion of chisya, as well as of all those who did not wake up in Kharkov and in the SE. Reminds the point of view of an overgrown teenager. The pimple has grown and has the right to fit into whoever he wants. I have no income of my own. They live on "parental money". But Cool! Themselves head. "For a beautiful life" they saw on TV and in the EU-tuber they are curly rattling. They made a mess with blatst girls and gays. And if you pay, let Pushkin pay. It was necessary for the Geyrop and Nezalezhnye 4 years ago to put energy resources on the meter. Change the terms of delivery. Counter at the border of the Russian Federation. EU chipped in to ship. And who is there that took away, deal with transit. Otherwise, it turns out that Russia has sponsored the Ukrainian economy for 23 years, thinking about a humanitarian catastrophe. The result is complete zvizdets. And the one who supplied for free is to blame. Not finished yet? Do you live well? There is no reason to be indignant ?. C 01,06,14. Swirl the gas. You will be ripe by winter. Will Russia be to blame again? So there is nowhere more to blame. Prepare firewood and dissolve on a torch. And there will be something to cook and light the light. And to steal out of habit will vozmotes- uncles from the EU will come with a showdown.

[Sour]

Quote: chelovektapok

Will Russia be guilty again? So nowhere else to blame.

What I’ve been talking about for a long time.

Quote: chelovektapok

But cool! Themselves head.

This is a pattern. The more a person lives at someone else’s expense, the more arrogant he is. Living at his own expense is usually more modest. This applies not only to people, but also to entire nations.
There is the most direct connection between "pride in Ukraine" and unwillingness to pay debts.

[Rurikovich]

Quote: chelovektapok

The opinion of chisya, as well as of all those who did not wake up in Kharkov and in the SE. Reminds the point of view of an overgrown teenager. The pimple has grown and has the right to fit into whoever he wants. I have no income of my own. They live on "parental money". But Cool! Themselves head. "For a beautiful life" they saw on TV and in the EU-tuber they are curly rattling. They made a mess with blatst girls and gays. And if you pay, let Pushkin pay. It was necessary for the Geyrop and Nezalezhnye 4 years ago to put energy resources on the meter. Change the terms of delivery. Counter at the border of the Russian Federation. EU chipped in to ship. And who is there that took away, deal with transit. Otherwise, it turns out that Russia has sponsored the Ukrainian economy for 23 years, thinking about a humanitarian catastrophe. The result is complete zvizdets. And the one who supplied for free is to blame. Not finished yet? Do you live well? There is no reason to be indignant ?. C 01,06,14. Swirl the gas. You will be ripe by winter. Will Russia be to blame again? So there is nowhere more to blame. Prepare firewood and dissolve on a torch. And there will be something to cook and light the light. And to steal out of habit will vozmotes- uncles from the EU will come with a showdown.

Simple, capacious and intelligible

[sluganska]

if, during the last seizure of the Kharkiv Regional State Administration, the "separatists" would have weapons, everything would have gone differently
the seizures were almost simultaneously in Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkov, but in Kharkov a couple of days later, the assault on the junta ended in success
but in Donetsk and Lugansk they didn’t take a chance, although they were planning to. I think so

[semuel]

The same riffraff is going.

[Erg]

Timashonka has nothing

[SHURAVI]

CLASS !!! You can expand the walking leaders of the UN, EU, Germany, France, Poland, etc., and of course NATO !!! There will not be enough screen !!!

[BelPartizan]

Quote: chisya

They will not take to Russia. And what in Russia is not the dictatorship of the oligarchy? Or the oligarchs will not be in the independent New Russia?

Of course not! The dictatorship of the Oligarchs was under Yeltsin, when the "Family" was in power, but under Putin, that's just the point, the oligarchs were pushed back as much as possible and even FORCED to pay taxes! This is one of the reasons for the Western hatred of Putin. In Russia, the oligarchs, of course, influence the situation, but not as directly as in Ukraine, and it was Putin who stopped their omnipotence. They began to pay taxes and what rules to follow

[Manul49]

Round table, square ... Yes, even a decagon.

"... no matter how you sit down,
all are not good musicians. "

Grandfather Krylov

[jovanni]

Yeah! Bender gathered with a loop for democracy to decide ....

[alex_valent]

And everything that is happening now in Kiev reminds me of this: I look with curiosity at the microscope And strain my eyesight that there is power ... The microbe is chasing the microbe, Not seeing the overtaking bacillus. Bacteria pave the way ... No, I don’t see the world. In the field of vision Mutual destruction reigns - You will not envy bacteria at all. The microbe tries to dig up the microbe, Bacilli eat bacilli like wolves of hares, They all have a great appetite, Terrible manners of bastards. I dripped a little vodka on the glass, Putting, so to speak, scientific experience. They took a sip, and then it went - Let's have a snack, let's pop each other! Mutual destruction. Arbitrariness. Look through a microscope, someone to hunt. And I looked already. And it is only a pity that vodka In vain I transferred to experience. (Vladlen Bakhnov. Looking through a microscope)

Source: http://politikus.ru/video/19394-kruglyy-stol-avakov-prosi-prosheniya-za-kolorado
v.html
Politikus.ru

[boozer]

Obviously, you need a "good mine with a bad game". The West has proposed such a ... "round table", here we are. Bluff.

[Lukich]

On May 18, 2014 in Nizhny Novgorod, as well as in Moscow on Manezhnaya Square, a "Maidan" called "Day of Wrath" was expected.
Liberators and other corrupt activists promised to "destroy the whole world of violence of stability" by hundreds of thousands of protesters, frightening and frightening the entire region .. It turned out even better than in Moscow.

[Everest2014]

Kharkiv residents will hold a referendum on self-determination
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/18/kharkov/