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The oath under the trunks: why contract servicemen flee from the National Guard under

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The oath under the trunks: why contract servicemen flee from the National Guard under



Southeast of Ukraine. The Kiev authorities not only failed to fulfill the ultimatum of the Donetsk Republic on the withdrawal of troops, but, on the contrary, continue to increase their military presence in the Slavyansk region. In response, the militia last night conducted several successful operations to unblock the roads. From the Ukrainian side, meanwhile, the missing persons appeared, and, according to incoming information, we are talking about people who are shot for refusing to carry out orders.

The Ukrainian army continues to nashpigovyv neighborhood Slavyansk metal. At night and at dawn, near the checkpoint near the village of Semenovka, there were battles. The fragments of shells cut the reinforced concrete pillars and the neighboring houses. Aggressors drove more than two hours. Successfully.
“Today we have occupied a strategic area — this is the Rostov-Kharkiv highway,” said one of the militiamen. “We ousted the Ukrainian armored vehicles, which were subordinate to the Kiev junta, and are taking up positions here. We will stand to the last.”


“We started throwing mines at them, and then we went on the offensive, and they retreated from this position, right from this place,” said another self-defense fighter.


It is impossible to hand over the roadblock in Semenovka under any circumstances. On this road, products and medicines fall into Slavyansk. The duty will now be around the clock. Volunteers bring fighters food and water. On the street plus 32. But on the fighters full outfit.

After a hard night clash, self-defense forces strengthen their positions at roadblocks surrounding Slavyansk. They dig in themselves and dig in heavy equipment. Uninvited guests are expected in a few hours. Ukrainian military are located just two kilometers away.

Today, the Ukrainian military did not report anything about their losses. But in recent history about how the 102 recruit from Zhytomyr deserted from the army, the militia did not believe. They say that there are witnesses that they allegedly buried their alleged deserters on Mount Karachun, the height from which Slavyansk was shot every night. According to the self-defenders, half of these hundreds died from the explosion of a warehouse with ammunition, someone was shot by the commanders for refusing to carry out an anti-people order.

“They shot them! And what they write in our Ukrainian media, although they are not mine, I don’t live in Ukraine, I live in another state, in another republic. I don’t know how they will explain to their mothers that is, I know that they are missing. They will not receive any allowances, it was easier for them to bury them on Mount Karachun and at the poultry farm. So only the fascists did, "says Vladislav, a fighter of self-defense in the Donetsk People's Republic.


The fact that these are not empty words, say themselves deserters. This young man was a contract soldier in the Kharkov motorized brigade. When the Maidan began, the commanders told the soldiers that the army could not interfere, they say, there are people. When the East flared up against the fascism spread, the situation changed. “The directors told us in plain text that if we did not carry out the order to disperse the civilian population, they have guns and they will shoot us in the back. I just could not stand it and left,” said a former contractor of the Kharkov brigade.

Every day, civilians continue to die. Today, not far from Slavyansk, the National Guard under shot a man. Nearly body defiantly left weapon, making it clear that they killed the enemy. But in the headquarters of the militia have already said that the dead was not part of the self-defense forces.

In the neighboring village of Novovarvarovka today they said goodbye to a young woman. Two days ago she tried to take her son to a safe place. But fell into the hands of the National Guard under. The woman was shot from a cannon mounted on an armored personnel carrier. “There, they shot her whole head, there were a lot of injuries, just awful,” says the husband of the deceased, Alexander Ott.

Slavyansk help the whole world. Almost every day a car arrives from Donetsk with humanitarian aid. Products, medicines, including insulin, are bought for their money by ordinary people. Most parcels for children, with diapers and meals. Each humanitarian flight may be the last.

"I want to contact the representatives of the Red Cross to send their mission. Because they just kill us. For them, the Red Cross is like a rag for the bull, especially if you go in the evening when mercenaries are standing at roadblocks. They don’t even understand Russian, they just shoot, "says Mikhail Kalchev, one of the volunteers.


Apparently, Kiev does not intend to withdraw the troops. To Slavic all new forces. Another week of shelling, and the outskirts will be a continuous minefield.
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  1. older
    older 17 May 2014 06: 30
    +6
    For the junta, the termination of the ATO will not only mean the end of the massacre, but the death of the whole ideology. And then they will be swept away by the radicals in Kiev ... They are afraid to fight and are not able to, but they learned how to buzz.
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 17 May 2014 06: 36
      +8
      Quote: older
      For the junta, the termination of the ATO will not only mean the end of the massacre, but the death of the whole ideology. And then they will be swept away by the radicals in Kiev ... They are afraid to fight and are not able to, but they learned how to buzz.

      In the long-term strategic perspective, the junta has already lost; it is a political and diplomatic living corpse. It is a pity for ordinary residents who suffer in the process of repose and burial of this corpse.
      No.
      1. older
        older 17 May 2014 07: 05
        +5
        Quote: And Us Rat
        In the long-term strategic perspective, the junta has already lost

        I don’t agree with you. You proceed from the thesis-junta wants to remain in the existing form. But this is not so. Nobody needs it, not even its own owners. We will reject all pseudo-political and other conversations. Remember the first statement of Yatsenyuk, after being appointed prime minister .We are the government of kamikaze and our task is to hold presidential elections in Ukraine .. Sorry, I poured water ..
        What do we have in the bottom line now? At the cost of losing part of the country, they still brought the country to the polls. And not only brought it up, but also managed to secure the support of the UN (I mean yesterday’s report).
        And the cleaning will begin immediately after the announcement of the results. The radicals have now been driven to the southeast for simple physical destruction. What the militias will not do, they will complete the subsequent repressions. It is to the radical supporters of the external junta.
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 17 May 2014 07: 25
          +1
          Quote: older
          What do we have in the bottom line now? At the cost of losing part of the country, they still brought the country to the polls. And not only brought it, but also managed to enlist the support of the UN ...

          The UN's opinion is an empty phrase for a long time, if there is no consensus among the veterans of the Security Council, and therefore, and these elections are an empty shaking of the air, in fact everything is decided by decisive actions and de facto support.
          For the fourth year now, Syria has been in a fever, because none of the "daddies" wants to get dirty, decisively supporting their henchmen, elections are also planned there - so what? Will they change something? Some civil wars have been smoldering for decades because no one really cares.
          In Ukraine, the situation is a little different, Putin is ready to take decisive steps, because he considers this a matter of national security of the Russian Federation, and for the same reason his opponents are not ready for these steps (they already realized that it’s not worth getting into the bottle, the sheepskin is not worth it, but that’s all screams and sanctions - a natural farce, in order to save face).
          Consequently - even thrice elections, a whole pack of neo-presidents will not affect the natural outcome.
        2. Kite
          Kite 17 May 2014 09: 27
          0
          Quote: older
          What the militias will not do, subsequent repressions will complete

          - the new "legitimate government" will have to bleach itself and reassure the population, establish a vertical of power (I mention the banal and obvious). Radicals and rebels (by the same obviousness) will have to be squeezed, and the most "interesting" will begin when the "new legitimate" ones begin to distance themselves from the current corrupt and insane. Probably, the turchinov fish already physically feel how it dangles on the gallows or how an ice ax breaks through its skull. (and the rest of the Kalommoy, yatsenyukhs, cuttings, ........)
          And this premonition is enough even for creatures, that's why they talk about kamikaze.
      2. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 17 May 2014 07: 15
        +1
        How long will most of the peasants of Donbass, Luganchins stand aside from the struggle for their liberation?
        Stop suffering and wait for help from Russia. Climb up, pick up weapons that are enough in the military depots of the Donbass and Luganchina, and which, after the referendum and the proclamation of the People’s Republics, belong to these states.
        Conduct a military mobilization in the People’s Army of New Russia to force indecisive storekeepers to defend themselves, their families, their native land from the Nazi Bandera pack.
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 18 May 2014 05: 05
          0
          How much of the majority of the men of Donbass and the Luhansk region will stand aside from the struggle for their liberation?

          In support of these words, I quote the appeal of Igor Strelkov, commander of the Liberation Army of Donbass.
      3. APASUS
        APASUS 17 May 2014 07: 25
        +1
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Quote: older
        For the junta, the termination of the ATO will not only mean the end of the massacre, but the death of the whole ideology. And then they will be swept away by the radicals in Kiev ... They are afraid to fight and are not able to, but they learned how to buzz.

        In the long-term strategic perspective, the junta has already lost; it is a political and diplomatic living corpse. It is a pity for ordinary residents who suffer in the process of repose and burial of this corpse.
        No.

        The junta is trying to give legitimacy to the elections on May 25 and is not a fact that they lost. Was it not clear how many hundreds died on the Maidan? The Americans have blanche cards in power. And after the elections, the country will have its own GULAG and its 37th year.
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 17 May 2014 07: 36
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          The junta is trying to give itself legitimacy by the 25 elections in May and it’s not a fact that they lost. Was it not clear how many hundreds died on the Maidan? The power of carte blanche from the Americans.

          YUSA will not get into the bottle, they have already realized that the goal does not justify the risk, they are more concerned with "saving face" now ("toy" Western sanctions are confirmation of this).
          In Syria, for example, they are also planning "elections", and this nonsense cannot be taken seriously. What elections, when one part of the electorate shoots at another ??? request
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 17 May 2014 08: 56
            0
            Quote: And Us Rat
            YUSA will not get into the bottle, they have already realized that the goal does not justify the risk, they are more concerned with "saving face" now ("toy" Western sanctions are confirmation of this).

            I think you are mistaken, while the Americans do not have to go anywhere. It’s enough to finance this mess. In essence, they don’t care who will be in power in Ukraine, fascists, communists, national patriots - the main thing is that you obey !!!
            Globally, the Americans want to wage war in the center of Europe. This will undermine the economy of one of its main competitors, will allow it to regain control of the financial markets. So the more blood is shed, the faster the US economy will recover.
            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 17 May 2014 09: 53
              0
              Quote: APASUS

              Globally, Americans want to wage war in the center of Europe. This will undermine the economy of one of the main competitors ...

              But considering that they see the PRC as the main competitor in the geopolitical game, I don’t quite understand whose economy and how it should undermine the swara in Ukraine? (It will not go beyond the framework of the Civil War, too much risk.)

              China? These in any case will be in the black.
              Ukraine? It is already in total .ope, and is not an end in itself.
              Russia? It is also not entirely clear how, if "real" sanctions, for example, for the export of hydrocarbons, are not even considered.
              Europe? But you cannot fight pampered Europe with kicks.
              ... USAA? In my opinion, they only spoiled themselves along the way, fired at his leg ...

              So I will remain in my opinion - they are looking for a reason to dissociate themselves from all this without losing face.
              Given their financial and logistical capabilities, I simply cannot seriously consider the so-called "aid" to the junta. A couple of hundred mercenaries with a half-trillion (and this is only the official) military budget for a multimillion-dollar Ukraine ??? Looks like a mockery request
              USA to Georgia 080808 IN A DAY spent more on the order than for the entire period of the mess in Ukraine.
              Therefore, it is more like tricks of the ukro-oligarchs such as the Kalomojets, or small things like the Poles or the Baltic states, as far as their modest (on a national scale) financial opportunities are.
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 17 May 2014 10: 26
                0
                Quote: And Us Rat
                But considering that they see the PRC as the main competitor in the geopolitical game, I don’t quite understand whose economy and how it should undermine the swara in Ukraine? (It will not go beyond the framework of the Civil War, too much risk.)

                As part of the fight against the economic crisis in the United States, global problems can strengthen the economy and the dollar. Problems with the supply of gas and oil to Europe from Russia through Ukraine will cause an economic recession in the EU. In addition, the commodity circulation of the EU and Russia is 10 times greater than the turnover of the US and Russia. Any political contradictions between the countries immediately affect the economy.
                By the way, unpaid gas for Ukraine fits into this logic. The country has already received the first loans but stubbornly does not pay for gas consumed under the pretext of disagreeing pricing and is waiting for the gas to turn off. They didn’t pay even when the price was 200 dollars lower. So, it turns out that the country we need another conflict, where of course the Americans will convince the whole world how bad Putin is - strangling democracy with gas.
                And the goal is completely different .......... the economy of the EU.
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 17 May 2014 10: 58
                  0
                  Quote: APASUS
                  And the goal is completely different .......... the economy of the EU.

                  Too complicated a scheme, in my opinion, it would be easier to pit Western and Eastern Europe on the basis of financial inequality, to break up the European Union, and then bring it to pieces like sums of Greece and Spain, it would itself flare up, and a nuclear bear would not breathe in the back of the head. request

                  This is a multi-way, but consisting of simpler steps, and half lime.
                  What seems to me to be an attempt to flood Russia with problems and tie her freedom of maneuver, which would not interfere in other regions ...
                  Who said that the main field of events is Ukraine? Maybe this is an action to divert one's eyes from something that is happening or is planned now in another place, behind the scenes of the media? Maybe that's why the "help" to the junta is so ridiculous and contains mainly "breakfasts", because no one seriously bets on them (it is wonderful understanding that Russia will not surrender this region without a fight)? Well, I do not see anything of value in Ukraine for the West, which would justify such a gemmor, the main prize is clearly somewhere else.

                  Somehow, the news about the serious butting of the USA and the PRC in Asia, which began with the participation of almost all the countries of the region, suddenly disappeared ... is it strange right? winked
                  1. APASUS
                    APASUS 17 May 2014 13: 11
                    +1
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    Too complicated a scheme, in my opinion, it would be easier to pit Western and Eastern Europe on the basis of financial inequality,

                    I did not claim that this is true, a similar option is possible.
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    What seems to me to be an attempt to flood Russia with problems and tie her freedom of maneuver, which would not interfere in other regions ...

                    That was the thought that came to me and that’s why.
                    Funny sanctions, all at the level of psychological pressure.
                    Strange events with the transfer of weapons of the same BMD (the soldiers were not fed for 3 days and when the locals gave them food they just abandoned the equipment), it feels like they are arming at once two sides. And they are trying in every possible way to drag Russia into a military clash, only in the east of the country . There was such a thought about an agreement, everything has already been divided and planned, it remains to pretend to be a struggle.
        2. mamont5
          mamont5 17 May 2014 07: 56
          +2
          Quote: APASUS
          The junta is trying to give legitimacy to the elections on May 25 and is not a fact that they lost. Was it not clear how many hundreds died on the Maidan? The Americans have blanche cards in power. And after the elections, the country will have its own GULAG and its 37th year.


          The Americans themselves no longer know what to do. All their plans go to hell. Now they have relied on Russian military intervention and the subsequent restoration of order, and for that ... the Americans are hoping to win back on Russia. So shutter speed and shutter speed again.

          “Yesterday US Secretary of State John Kerry gave a number of recommendations in London on how to leave the crisis in eastern Ukraine. Judging by Kerry’s statement, the situation cannot be rectified without the introduction of Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine.

          Kerry said Russia would suffer if its supporters disrupt the elections in Ukraine. He expressed confidence that Moscow would force pro-Russian activists to work within the framework of the process.

          Thus, Kerry admits that there are separatists in Ukraine who demand a change in the policy of official Kiev. Due to the fact that the ATO led to opposite results, increasing the number of opponents of the Kiev authorities, the new government could not cope with the protests in the east, either by force or diplomatically.

          Kerry cannot admit failure, since the United States supports the current government. Therefore, there is an urgent need to shift responsibility for the unrest in the east to a third party. In the current situation, Russia is suitable for this. "
          http://warfiles.ru/show-56712-kerri-prizyvaet-rossiyu-vvesti-voyska-na-ukrainu.h
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          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 17 May 2014 09: 14
            +1
            "Kerry said Russia will suffer." And I'm already suffering - my tummy hurts, rzhunimagu!
    2. Duke
      Duke 17 May 2014 06: 58
      +1
      Quote: older
      For the junta, the termination of the ATO will not only mean the end of the massacre, but the death of the whole ideology. And then they will be swept away by the radicals in Kiev ... They are afraid to fight and are not able to, but they learned how to buzz.

      Nazis and drug addicts.
  2. bars280
    bars280 17 May 2014 06: 34
    +2
    T.V.A.R. And the Nazis to turn you inside out.
  3. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 17 May 2014 06: 43
    +3
    Slavyansk is desperately needed not even to Kiev, but to Biden’s son for the extraction of shale gas! yes Why do Ukrainians die?
  4. ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 17 May 2014 07: 13
    +1
    And judging by all the time, the Kiev Fuhrer is getting less and less, the hosts are demanding a result, and I want to curry favor. and no strength.
  5. kondor-espada
    kondor-espada 17 May 2014 07: 23
    +3
    Quote: VNP1958PVN
    not even Kiev, but Biden’s son

    That's right, the United States does not do everything with its own hands - but it is precisely them that must be judged for these crimes.
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 17 May 2014 07: 45
      +1
      Quote: kondor-espada
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      not even Kiev, but Biden’s son

      That's right, the United States does not do everything with its own hands - but it is precisely them that must be judged for these crimes.

      An idealistic remark. request To do this, they must be conquered \ win \ lose leadership. request

      History teaches us that "truth" and "rules" are written by the winners, if the Roman Empire had not fallen to this day - we would still own slaves, three ... or boys, watched gladiatorial fights to the death, devouring criminals by lions - and considered it would be normal and morally acceptable. Just because they dictated YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF NORMALITY to the whole world. request


      Py.Sy. - And imagine, for example, a world caliphate in the image of Saudi Arabia or Iran, they have public executions, chopping off hands, stoning, lawless women, death for apostasy, etc. And for them it is NORMA - THEY SINCERELY IN THIS. (In a delusional dream, you can’t imagine that you’ll be executed for not attending church for Easter, for example, and theirs is quite normal)
  6. papik09
    papik09 17 May 2014 07: 24
    +3
    U.ro.do! They perfectly understand that if they stop, then there will be no financing from outside. But they still have the audacity to spit in the direction of Russia and at the same time remind them of the point that Russia promised 2013 billion in 15, and so the junta are READY TO TAKE THEM am And who are they finally after that? Not that the mind, there is no ordinary fantasy. Precisely here on the forum it was written "BORESOMETER SCALE" fool
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 17 May 2014 07: 51
      0
      Quote: papik09
      if they stop, there will be no financing from outside

      They will be replaced. They will bury them on Mount Karachun, and put new ones. Funding will not stop until the armed formations of the self-defense forces reach Poland. So, either pan or lost. Doesn't wake up any compromise. If the war goes into the stage of negotiations, this will only postpone the "hot" phase, and will give the maydanuts regroup, and possibly replenish with troops from outside.
  7. sv68
    sv68 17 May 2014 07: 48
    0
    Well, scum! tanks need to crush the Nazis without pity angry Slavyansk should be helped in all possible and impossible ways, so that the resistance had not only weapons but the city could be completely unblocked from the Nazis
  8. mamont5
    mamont5 17 May 2014 07: 52
    0
    "The oath under the trunks: why contract soldiers run away from the National Guard"

    Mainly for two reasons: 1. When they don’t pay 2. When they promise a peaceful (punitive) campaign, they bring them under bullets.
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  10. Don Cesar
    Don Cesar 17 May 2014 08: 41
    0
    to drive this trash from our land, who will come to us with a sword ...
  11. skylare
    skylare 17 May 2014 09: 25
    0
    Now everything depends on the Donetsk and Lugansk Republics, which especially recently, show that they are a force to be reckoned with. If they develop their successes, then activists will begin to act in other regions. No matter how great the National Guard, various punitive detachments, they simply will not be enough to keep everyone. And, having united with the southern territories, there is already a real opportunity to regain control of Kiev, and indeed over the entire territory of the former Ukraine, excluding Galicia and others like it.
  12. blizart
    blizart 17 May 2014 09: 40
    0
    Mount Karachun is very symbolic!
  13. Dimsanych
    Dimsanych 17 May 2014 11: 38
    0
    Of course run! They are being killed there. And they are killed there because the incentives of the parties are different. Some fight for their home, protect themselves, while others came for money, but they are not ready to die for this money. And indeed the whole idea of ​​an allegedly anti-terrorist operation is absurd. Only the donkey does not understand this.
    Draftees and mobilized will not be able to fight. This is a war of mercenaries.
  14. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 17 May 2014 12: 18
    +3
    Honestly, I do not believe that the junta bury hundreds of conscripts. You understand, the meat will rot, and the bones will remain. The practice of Stalinist repressions and fascist atrocities shows that mass graves are difficult to hide, and conducting a forensic examination and determining the cause of death is quite easy even 100 years later. The only cases of lawlessness (murder) - I agree, but I don’t believe simply and I don’t believe that the Nazis were so frozen out, and the spineless guys that allowed themselves to be executed like a herd of sheep without resistance, out of a hundred and fifty would have died, but another 50 others gnawed teeth b.
    With all due respect, I don’t believe in the success of militias destroying hundreds of Nazis’s manpower, with all due respect, let's be honest that it’s not possible to inflict such damage with light small arms against airborne infantry fighting vehicles and infantry fighting vehicles supported by air (although it’s not always successful in view of the loss of turntables), or the clashes are so massive that the militias suffer comparable losses, but if the militias trust them they simply do not have so many armed people.
    I believe in the high motivation and professionalism of the militias, I admit that if they are successful, they can cause great damage to the enemy without loss on their part (my wife’s great-grandfather at the First World War received because he served as intelligence officer and killed the Germans’s sleeping battalion, this topic has always been was in fashion). But again, we are talking about conscripts, but the militias cease to understand the difference between conscripts and the National Guard, so I do not believe that they will actually attack the innocent guys who are stupidly driven there, I do not believe that the conscripts themselves will enthusiastically carry out such orders, otherwise why then the National Guard and all sorts of battalions such as Denpro?
    From here I conclude for myself that, unfortunately, in this case, self-defense talking about executions exaggerates, and 19-year-old boys just go home, not wanting to participate in this abomination.
    1. Ygorez
      Ygorez 17 May 2014 14: 53
      0
      I agree, this is just an agitation for raising the spirit. Actually, this should be divided into ... 10-15
  15. Manul49
    Manul49 17 May 2014 13: 18
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    Quote: mamont5
    "The oath under the trunks: why contract soldiers run away from the National Guard"

    Mainly for two reasons: 1. When they don’t pay 2. When they promise a peaceful (punitive) campaign, they bring them under bullets.


    Right. The mercenary goes for the dough, and not die for the motherland / honor / family.

    And the whistle of the first bullet makes him sober. Moreover, they gain any tear.
  16. repytw
    repytw 17 May 2014 21: 27
    0


    Message from the Minister of Defense of the DPR!