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War of Ukrainian inheritance

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I have long had the feeling that the Ukrainian nationalists are somehow wrong. Immediately after coming to power, their German teachers tried to make Germany stronger by joining all those who could be considered as compatriots with any exaggeration - Alsatians, Sudeten Germans, Austrians. In Ukraine, the opposite is true - the nationalists in a few weeks of their rule managed to push aside their fellow citizens, they lost several regions, and the sovereignty of the country was pawned by the IMF.


Oddly enough, with all the love for the idea of ​​ein Volk, ein Reich and quasi-Hebrew symbolism, ukronacias do not follow the path of Hitler and German Nazism. They only imitate those who imitated the Germans 70 years ago - punitive, able to fight only with civilians.

It is understood that imitation historical losers can only grow the next generation of losers. As a result, modern Ukrainian nationalism looks like a destructive sect, like a parasite on the body of the state, able to invade its organs, but unable to control them. Due to the inability to work in an organized manner, the carriers of these values ​​like to appropriate many things that take decades to create. True, in their hands they inevitably turn into dust. They appropriated a piece of the Soviet Army - only one piece remained. Trite stole part of the Black Sea fleet - again rubbish. The education system, industry, popular culture are one trash. Only on the Maidan of Nezalezhnosti was a garden broken as a symbolic peak of the ability to manage sectarians from remote Uniate villages.

By the way, the Airborne Forces of Ukraine are now thrown onto Slavyansk not only because they are the only more or less combat-ready units, but also because Uncle Vasya's troops, created by the great General Margelov, have no place in "their party" ukronatsistov. Such a powerful continuity is dangerous to them, and therefore no airborne troops will soon remain in Ukraine. Predictably, the new government succeeds in creating only detachments of punishers — whom it predictably cannot control later.

Therefore, despite the success of the coup in Kiev, the creation of a truly monolithic United Ukraine is postponed indefinitely. Even the Americans have already realized that it is impossible to plan a big war with the allies, who are able to steal and sell rations donated to them via the Internet while they are still flying from the warehouse.

But in order to beat all the pots and shed maximum blood, the conditions are favorable. Maydanizators have practically monopolized everything Ukrainian. New Russia realizes itself to be Russian, because there is nothing more convincing than when you are killed for belonging to the Russian civilizational world. To provoke the war of Russian Ukrainians against Ukrainian Ukrainians on this field is simple.

To avoid this, it's time to start a war for the Ukrainian inheritance on the information front.

Yes, after Odessa and Mariupol, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk fists clench, and many want to spit in everything Ukrainian, right now to reach Kiev in a fight and uproot this phenomenon entirely. But not in vain did V. Putin say in his speech that this is a development of events according to the most unfavorable scenario. In addition to big blood and full-fledged civil war, the century-old dream of national losers will come true: the very concept of Ukraine and Ukrainians and everything that was created under this name will belong to them as defenders of the nation.

It hurts fat.

As practice shows, they in the same way turn Ukraine into dust, like everything else. This moment in propaganda is urgently needed to expand and deepen. On the side of the Resistance, it is time to drag the Ukrainian soil patriotism, because most people have lived all their lives in this long-suffering country, used to love it, want it to be good. And New Russia is not separatism, it is just the preservation of all the good things that happened in Ukraine. No more, no less. It takes the impudence of a handful of western regions to declare themselves carriers of genuine Ukrainians.

Everything valuable that cannot be taken away from the Kiev impostors, they will drive through and be thrown to the wind, so every man who loves his Ukraine should take a gun and join the Resistance. It is necessary together to reset the junta, to become independent, to preserve values, and then agree with each other through an open vote - this is the leitmotif of the unification of the regions. In Ukraine, only Novorossia has so far demonstrated that it is capable of protecting the right to everyone’s will, while Kiev began European integration by killing political opponents.

We need simple slogans on leaflets, on walls and fences in occupied cities. Each police department should know about the fate of Mariupol police officers who refused to shoot at the 9 May demonstration. Each military unit must receive a pile of leaflets calling for them to stop violating the oath, arrest their commanders and go to the side of the people. If we want to see how independent regions unite back into a single state, but already without neo-Nazi sectarians and oligarchs, we must prepare the ground for this immediately.
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  1. Grandfather Victor
    Grandfather Victor 18 May 2014 15: 06
    +14
    "If we want to see how independent regions unite back into a single state, but without neo-Nazi sectarians and oligarchs ..."
    We want it, but how do the Russian oligarchs and their proteges in the Russian government look at it?
    1. Thompson
      Thompson 18 May 2014 15: 28
      +10
      And they want more of yours. They just have a burden of responsibility more. So they solve the problem. It’s not chopping wood, which is a bit wider from the shoulder. Need more strategy and tactics. I think they are working in this direction
      1. kuzia-roker
        kuzia-roker 18 May 2014 15: 50
        +22
        Quote: Thompson
        And they want more of yours. They just have a burden of responsibility more. So they solve the problem. It’s not chopping wood, which is a bit wider from the shoulder. Need more strategy and tactics. I think they are working in this direction

        I live in Siberia, all enterprises belong to Moscow, while Muscovites (the very oligarchs) took them into the brazen, crushing money and power by force. the conclusion suggests itself that it wakes up with a dombass in case of joining. you can minus how much you like, but it’s not a matter of fact and time will tell you who is right and who is wrong (well, those daredevils who believe that in Russia one justice I beg your pardon for our salary of 10 thousand rubles a month)
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 18 May 2014 16: 14
          +8
          Quote: kuzia-roker
          in Siberia all enterprises are owned by Moscow

          Do not lie - and we will not lie!))
          1. eshkinKot
            eshkinKot 18 May 2014 18: 15
            +30
            in the Far East, the same situation — Moscow bought up all profitable enterprises — they pay pennies, at the Gagarin plant (Komsomolsk-on-Amur, it produces su 37, t50) pay 10-20 thousand mainly from the director about 1 million. So if not you know the situation in the industries do not blame lies
            1. CTEPX
              CTEPX 18 May 2014 18: 21
              -13%
              Quote: eshkinKot
              bought up Moscow all cost-effective Enterprises

              Quote: kuzia-roker
              all enterprises belong to Moscow

              Well well)). And if without strain? Yes, compare salaries at "Moscow" or "local" enterprises?
              The information war - it is such an information!))
              1. Russian jacket
                Russian jacket 19 May 2014 02: 55
                +9
                And this is not an anguish but a fact. According to Khimprom, Usolye Sibirskoye. Through the efforts of "effective" Moscow managers, the Kotenko brothers, and then the chief nanotechnologist of Russia, it went bankrupt. The production of carbide and hypochlorite has collapsed, which does not prevent our Chinese friends from raising prices for these products. And many more product names. The city has become a residential area, from where people go to work in nearby towns. But in principle, the people adapt, and even ride abroad ... And traffic jams in the city ... hi
                1. wasjasibirjac
                  wasjasibirjac 19 May 2014 04: 47
                  0
                  Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                  The city turned into a sleeping area, from where they go to work in nearby cities. But in principle, people are adapting, and even riding abroad ... And traffic jams in the city ... hi

                  Is there a neighbor? Do you remember the condition of roads in Usolye? Now it’s kind of gotten better.
                2. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 19 May 2014 16: 18
                  -3
                  Quote: Russian quilted jacket
                  And this is not a strain but a fact.

                  The fact that ALL Siberian enterprises belong to Moscow?))
              2. wasjasibirjac
                wasjasibirjac 19 May 2014 04: 44
                +8
                Quote: ctepx
                Well well)). And if without strain? Yes, compare salaries at "Moscow" or "local" enterprises?

                and what to compare them? Considering that the most financially prosperous enterprises become "pro-Moscow", their profits are withdrawn from the region, the region becomes inadequate to support its state employees, wages are reduced, the region becomes subsidized.
                1. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 19 May 2014 16: 30
                  0
                  Quote: wasjasibirjac
                  financially prosperous enterprises become "pro-Moscow"

                  I will say more, they usually became "pro-Cyprus")). This is impossible only without a corrupt regional government. Any departure of the taxable base from the region is equal to the venality of the regional government)). And in Ukraine, everyone who is in power today is corrupt. Without exception)).
                  1. denis_redis
                    denis_redis 20 May 2014 12: 19
                    +3
                    Why are you jumping off the topic? at first you reproach with a lie - when the person described the real situation, and now you are translating the arrows to Ukraine !!! Or was he scared of his minuses, decided to rake it in the "right" channel? Bala.ball!
                    1. CTEPX
                      CTEPX 20 May 2014 17: 11
                      0
                      Quote: denis_redis
                      And what are you jumping from the topic? at first you reproach with a lie - when a person described the real situation, and now now you are transferring arrows to Ukraine !!

                      So you fucking here, new claudia workers?))
                      The "lie" jumped off the topic of the article, who, when discussing the article for Ukraine, began to frighten evil Muscovites and claim that ALL enterprises in Siberia belong to Moscow)).
                      And your little team, which arose on VO with its minuses and wiring, would go on foot)).
                      1. denis_redis
                        denis_redis 21 May 2014 15: 23
                        0
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                        So you fucking here, new claudia workers?))
                        Date Reg. take a look!

                        [/ Quote]

                        And your little team, which arose on VO with its minuses and wiring, would go on foot)). [/ Quote]
                        What are you talking about "command"? and on the minuses, the pluses to me NAS.Rat.
                        I do not intend to make a career in the comments!
                        In your opinion, who is not with you - banderlog?
                      2. Cynic
                        Cynic 21 May 2014 16: 19
                        0
                        Quote: denis_redis
                        In your opinion, who is not with you - banderlog?

                        And in life _ He who is not with us is against us!
                        It was _ There is _ And it will be!

                        All _
                      3. denis_redis
                        denis_redis 21 May 2014 20: 58
                        0
                        You yourself are a troll! Just to bark!
                      4. Cynic
                        Cynic 22 May 2014 10: 57
                        0
                        Quote: denis_redis
                        You yourself are a troll! Just to bark!

                        Is that all that was enough for you? Creatively rephrase _ Sam?
                        You need to argue your position!
                        As for the Cypriot money, it has already been seized by Cyprus from the EU.
                        They teach these clever businessmen, they teach. What's the point?
                        They believe in the universal values ​​and decency of business in the West ...
                        Won BB left a millard, but died _ Some debts! And how many others?
                        Khodorkovsky on the same path _
        2. Horn
          Horn 19 May 2014 04: 55
          +2
          Everywhere the same. First, it’s thick, then it’s empty. Stupidly stop paying.
        3. basmach
          basmach 20 May 2014 20: 50
          0
          here is clearly this STERKH Muscovite, and even from plankton
        4. stroporez
          stroporez 21 May 2014 08: 23
          0
          worked at NGDU. it happened so sho friend had an accident on the "ground" .. urgently needed money ........ so when they turned to the head office, it turned out sho, according to the documents, his salary is far beyond 100 pieces ... ... so sho you specify what kind of salary you are talking about ..........
        5. BLACK-SHARK-64
          BLACK-SHARK-64 21 May 2014 14: 51
          0
          Moscow salaries are many times more ... Moscow is another state ... Although I’m a Patriot of Russia .. But I don’t respect our oligarchs ... they don’t have patriotism ... they will betray Putin first if that ... Where there is a dollar - no honor and conscience ...
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 May 2014 18: 21
        +1
        Quote: eshkinKot
        (Komsomolsk-on-Amur, produces su 37, t50) pay 10-20 thousand

        What kind of lifting pay on KNaAPO
        1. eshkinKot
          eshkinKot 20 May 2014 08: 20
          -1
          6tys. For six months and then dumped
      3. Nationalist
        Nationalist 18 May 2014 19: 40
        -18%
        Damn, I am surprised by this approach to the situation "in the Far East, the same situation - Moscow bought up all profitable enterprises" so if the residents of the Far East don't like it so much, don't sell it, they don't hold you at gunpoint, buy up the shares of your manufacturing giants and lead in will, forward everything is in your hands
        1. gispanec
          gispanec 18 May 2014 22: 10
          +16
          Quote: Nationalist
          buy up the shares of your production giants yourself and lead in freedom, everything is in your hands forward

          so all finances in Muscovy ... all the banks there ... what to buy ?? ?? ... you fly in the clouds .... go down to the ground ... look what's next to Muscovy !!! ... Ryazan. ..Vladimir..Ivanovo ... N Novgorod .... s / n at enterprises under 17-23 clean among hard workers .... and the communal service is more than in Moscow, by the way, taxes are also higher .... is it strange right ?. .. I'm talking about transport tax + the cost of 1 kilowatt (we have 5p20kop)
        2. eshkinKot
          eshkinKot 20 May 2014 08: 22
          0
          where are you from? What stocks? - nobody saw them and didn’t sell them to ordinary people, in your hands ... laughter
        3. denis_redis
          denis_redis 20 May 2014 12: 31
          +3
          Did you understand what you said? or do you understand some kind of obscure series about real life? straight made fun
          Quote: Nationalist
          don’t sell it, you’re not being held at gunpoint, buy up the shares of your production giants yourself and lead free will, everything is in your hands forward

          For example, try to read how the Menatep group of companies became a mega giant in a couple of years !!! or remember why Khodor was closed (the mayor of Nefteyugansk). Or maybe you don't live in Russia at all?
        4. Boralex63
          Boralex63 20 May 2014 16: 45
          0
          Are you or just pretending to be?
        5. ermolai
          ermolai 20 May 2014 19: 23
          0
          why are you so naive?
      4. EvgenSuslov
        EvgenSuslov 20 May 2014 16: 51
        +1
        This is everywhere. We have also buried an entire industry - Chelyabinsk Coal. 2 cities were left without city-forming enterprises. But somehow we live in Kopeisk and Korkino. Yes, the proximity of Chelyabinsk helps. In general, this is a picture all over Russia. But not the strongest enterprises were selling and buying. They were privatized back in the 90s and they still work. And those that were still subsidized in the Union under a planned economy in market conditions is difficult to survive. So they are bought for the sake of land, power, etc.
      5. Konsmo
        Konsmo 21 May 2014 11: 06
        0
        What do machine workers with CNC machines, assemblers with experience of 10 years, and a salary of 20 thousand? Yes, do not drive.
        Come to Moscow, here a fitter who knows how to properly mark a part and drill a hole does not get crooked from 40-45. And then they are 50 or more years old.
        The machine operator on Chpu, I don’t even know, but I think at 100. For 50 tons of ordinary turners, they tear me ...
        1. Prometey
          Prometey 21 May 2014 11: 25
          0
          Quote: Konsmo
          What do machine operators with CNC machines, assemblers with experience of 10 years, and a salary of 20 thousand

          Yes, and it’s still considered very cool.
      6. BLACK-SHARK-64
        BLACK-SHARK-64 21 May 2014 14: 48
        0
        And this is TRUTH ... It’s just that the Russian alllligarchs will devour the Ukrainian ... and the HORNN people ...
    2. Horn
      Horn 19 May 2014 04: 53
      +2
      Quote: ctepx
      Quote: kuzia-roker
      in Siberia all enterprises are owned by Moscow

      Do not lie - and we will not lie!))

      There is a great deal of truth in his words. I remember how they put pressure on the director of the Novosibirsk Tin Plant, how both he and the director of the confectionery factory were killed and beaten, how they took the NPVK (now 0 VINAP). Everything was. As in Kamchatka, crushed local small owners of tankers and fishermen.
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 19 May 2014 16: 21
        -3
        Quote: Horn
        I remember putting pressure on the director

        And still)). Not ALL Siberian enterprises belong to Moscow ... Why the hell ?!
        To make a screen in Ukraine?))
      2. eshkinKot
        eshkinKot 20 May 2014 08: 24
        +3
        Muscovite snickering can not prove, and they really do not need
        1. Basarev
          Basarev 20 May 2014 20: 06
          +2
          Beat the Muscovites!
    3. alweer
      alweer 20 May 2014 18: 33
      +1
      Bashkortostan - everything near Moscow
    4. polite people
      polite people 21 May 2014 01: 24
      0
      This is what Ukraine expects after joining the EU.
      http://youtu.be/afEoKZlwDMg
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  2. Sergh
    Sergh 18 May 2014 16: 46
    +16
    Quote: kuzia-roker
    I live in Siberia

    Zdarova land, if you're not lying ..., I'm from Novosibirsk, and you understand this in Siberia and would like to know what landfill you get 10 thousand a month? Although ..., in spelling, grammar:
    Quote: kuzia-roker
    dombasom

    Quote: kuzia-roker
    what is in Russia

    Everything is clear with you! Yes la bol!
    1. Gloria45
      Gloria45 18 May 2014 17: 29
      +8
      In Kramatorsk, military without identification marks detained the LifeNews film crew

      There is information that the Ukrainian military took Oleg Sidyakin and Marat Saychenko for questioning

      Please disseminate the information as much as possible! (Repost)

      If you have information about where they are or who detained them, call the editorial office at +7 (495) 663 38 11
      http://lifenews.ru/news/133401
    2. serge siberian
      serge siberian 18 May 2014 17: 54
      +19
      Quote: Sergh
      Quote: kuzia-roker
      I live in Siberia
      Zdarova land, if you're not lying ..., I'm from Novosibirsk, and you understand this in Siberia and would like to know what landfill you get 10 thousand a month? Although ..., in spelling, grammar:
      Quote: kuzia-roker
      dombasom
      Quote: kuzia-roker
      what is in Russia
      Everything is clear with you! Yes la bol!

      I am from Novosibirsk and I have a salary of 5400 rubles. Fact !!! but about the "dump", if you are so cool then do not stutter. I work as a repair department worker at the university.
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 18 May 2014 18: 08
        -7
        Quote: serzh sibiryak
        I am from Novosibirsk and I have a salary of 5400 rubles. Fact !!!

        Many have an official salary of 5300)). How much do you bring home!?)) And how much do not inform !?)) And how much do you give away for loans?))
        1. s1н7т
          s1н7т 18 May 2014 21: 17
          +10
          Siberian Crane is a cloudy bird). What are the loans for the official 5 300? Do you live in Australia or what? , the propagandists of the "sunlit" are spreading here!
          1. CTEPX
            CTEPX 19 May 2014 02: 47
            -4
            Quote: c1n7
            Sterkh - muddy bird).

            Quote: c1n7
            there is a lot of propagandists of the "sunlit"!

            Quote: c1n7
            What are the loans for the official 5?

            Here you can answer only the question)).
            The loan amount for the official 5300 today is not less than 300 (rubles).
            The remaining fabrications are on your conscience)).
      2. White53
        White53 18 May 2014 18: 52
        +13
        I'm from Omsk! And you haven't tried to work normally! Improve your qualifications, change your profession, or you are from the group of "mourners" .....
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      4. kolyhalovs
        kolyhalovs 18 May 2014 21: 06
        +13
        I am from Novosibirsk and I have a salary of 5400 rubles. Fact !!!

        I am also from Novosib. My salary will be less - 5200 rubles. I bring home about 40000 every month. We don’t need here about salary. Northern, seniority, all kinds of bonuses and AWARDS!
    3. Cynic
      Cynic 18 May 2014 18: 04
      +3
      Quote: Sergh
      I'm from Novosibirsk

      And, from the village of Novo-Nikolaevsk.
      hi
    4. I do not care
      I do not care 18 May 2014 18: 15
      +25
      Quote: Sergh
      Of Siberia and I would like to know at what landfill you get 10 thousand per month? Although...

      I live in Kursk, 70 percent of the enterprises are closed, the salary for the rest is 12-18 a month, the average salary in the city is 12000, I don’t think the country is happier,
      although Medvedev said it’s to blame, it’s not a mobile people, you know where you are in demand and play more — go, don’t sit. I have a call right in my head — do you need any premieres?
      1. a52333
        a52333 18 May 2014 19: 17
        +10
        Something did not see 70% closed. I’m from Gubkin (Belgorod region), they are often in Kursk.
        At my last job, they looked for a manager girl. 10 thousand from a place + bonus. This is from school. Without experience. Two months could not find. The girl who went on maternity leave from this place almost gave birth in the workplace.
        1. basmach
          basmach 20 May 2014 21: 00
          0
          And what managers are already at the machines. And I always thought it was buy-sell.
      2. Yun Klob
        Yun Klob 18 May 2014 21: 18
        0
        He was calling to Israel.
      3. BLACK-SHARK-64
        BLACK-SHARK-64 21 May 2014 14: 54
        0
        Bear pussy, I don’t believe him ... In Belgorod the same As In Kursk, bro ...
    5. Dart2027
      Dart2027 18 May 2014 21: 52
      +4
      Quote: Sergh
      Da la bol

      Krymchanka, daughter of an officer.
    6. Alex19880509
      Alex19880509 20 May 2014 21: 56
      +1
      in 2011 at NZIV 12 tr received, and in some village Bochkarevo of the Cherepanovsky district and now they are ready to work at least for the minimum.
  3. Fitter65
    Fitter65 18 May 2014 16: 47
    +7
    Quote: kuzia-roker
    what wakes up with dombass

    Really what "will happen with Donbass"? ..
  4. anfil
    anfil 18 May 2014 17: 10
    +10
    I live in Siberia all enterprises belong to Moscow at the same time Muscovites (those very oligarchs) ...

    How deeply mistaken you are about Muscovites ... though! Perhaps these businessmen are registered in Moscow. If you look closely at the packaging of any product, you will find that basically all enterprises are registered in Moscow, and the goods are packaged or produced in your city, the Moscow branch.
    The journal "Finance" (http://www.finansmag.ru), on the 13 of February of the 2006 of the year, published informative lists of ruble billionaires.
    Pay attention to the last names:
    1. EVGENY SHVIDLER. The right hand of Roman Abramovich, over the past seven years, headed the company Sibneft. Eugene Shvidler can often be seen with the governor of Chukotka at home games of Chelsea;
    2. ROMAN ABRAMOVICH. The governor of the Chukotka Autonomous Region, the owner of the Chelsea football club and three yachts, the father of five children sold last year the largest asset - the oil company Sibneft for $ 13 billion;
    3. MIKHAIL FRIDMAN. In 2005, he personally admitted that he controlled more than 40% of Alfa Group’s shares, and from the Alfa Bank memorandum it followed that the chairman of the council did not own a controlling stake;
    4. VIKTOR VEKSELBERG. The largest shareholder of the Renova group. Its key assets (TNK-BP and Sual) are developing in partnership with an American businessman Leonid Blavatnik;
    5. VAGIT ALEKPEROV. Vagit Alekperov, president of Lukoil, admitted in an interview that he was constantly buying up the company's shares on the market. Under his control are securities worth $ 6,5 billion;
    6. ISKANDER MAKHMUDOV. It is non-public and non-transparent, like coal mined by the Kuzbassrazrezugol company, in which it is the largest shareholder. The main asset is UMMC;
    7. SULEYMAN KERIMOV. In 2005, the State Duma deputy made several successful transactions - he bought the Polymetal holding and Mosstroyeconombank, profitably resold Glavmosstroy;
    8. GERMAN KHAN. Behind the scenes is the "second person" in the "Alpha Group." As executive director of TNK-BP, he oversees the oil sector, which accounts for about 40% of the group’s total assets;
    and so on, the list of 720 people offered by the publication is NOT FULL!
    link:http://forum.dpni.org/showthread.php?t=9569
    1. bilgesez
      bilgesez 18 May 2014 18: 27
      -29%
      Your link has been denied access. The site is recognized as extremist. Not everything is alright, but Putin's rush. He was a Russophobe to them and remained.
      1. sv68
        sv68 18 May 2014 19: 21
        +6
        bulldozer, in what direction do you live a forest miracle? Change the flag and do not disgrace Russia.
      2. Cynic
        Cynic 18 May 2014 19: 37
        +11
        Quote: bilgesez
        Your link has been denied access. The site is recognized as extremist. Not everything is alright, but Putin's rush. He was a Russophobe to them and remained.

        They did not provide you with words for _
        1. Vadim12
          Vadim12 18 May 2014 20: 31
          +3
          Not just Russians, but Russians.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 18 May 2014 20: 53
            +8
            Quote: Vadim12
            Not just Russians, but Russians.

            The era of the Russians ended with the era of EBN.
            WE ARE RUSSIANS !
        2. eshkinKot
          eshkinKot 20 May 2014 08: 36
          +1
          In general, Russia is not scolded here, there is simply a category of bastards who are close to power and rob the country, they simply rob people openly, without hesitation, because. there is nothing to be afraid of (everyone has heard of Serdyukov and others. A lot of examples) if you are Putin’s korefan or just a “good friend”.
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 18 May 2014 19: 35
      +7
      Quote: anfil
      How deeply mistaken you are about Muscovites ... though! Perhaps these businessmen are registered in Moscow.

      Hmm, wonderful things are your Lord!
      For clarity, local profitable enterprises are either bought by a company from Moscow, or, without washing in such a way, this company is re-registered in the capital.
      Further, about taxes, i.e. where they are paid, I think it’s not necessary to continue.
      wink
    3. andj61
      andj61 20 May 2014 23: 07
      +1
      Bah, familiar faces! What kind of people, and still without protection!
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 21 May 2014 10: 03
        0
        Quote: andj61
        and still unguarded!

        They don’t offer this, but I don’t agree on the least!
    4. BLACK-SHARK-64
      BLACK-SHARK-64 21 May 2014 15: 00
      0
      I will add - Alisher Usmanov is the owner of METALLINVEST ... in the FORBS troika ...
  5. pensioner
    pensioner 18 May 2014 17: 13
    +10
    Quote: kuzia-roker
    I beg you to pay us on our salary of 10 thousand rubles a month

    M-yes ... Judging by your literacy, they also overpay you ...
    1. minus
      minus 18 May 2014 19: 17
      +24
      You should not blame a person for mistakes in the text. Today I made more rude ones in the census with my friends from Ukraine. Firstly, you have to write from your phone. Secondly, not up to grammar and spelling, you need to feed your wife and three children. You can consider the person who raised the issue of salaries in Russia as a provocateur, but this problem is urgent. In my city, the average salary at enterprises does not exceed 12 thousand rubles ... My salary is 20 thousand. Want to write about a life situation? My mother fell seriously ill and went to Krasnoyarsk for examination. A wife with two children was admitted to the hospital for a viral infection. The farm was left unattended, one child is with me .... The director makes me, under pain of dismissal, go to work on May 9, on a day off .... 'Where are you going to take the child, your problems. Friday is a working day. May 9 holiday ??? What holiday are you a veteran? On ... I spun the labor code ... We are a team, I will say - you will work without any need! If you don’t like it, quit. If you don’t quit, I’m firing .... 'You can list for a long time what I heard. And I had to go out - I DON'T FIND another job with such a salary in the city ... We are discussing another topic. Therefore, do not be distracted. The person expressed his opinion and this is his right. And the fact that there are enough problems in Russia is a fact. If you have big salaries are good. Just do not offend people who live on beggarly salaries, but are patriots ...
      1. wax
        wax 18 May 2014 22: 21
        +3
        What does the power of the oligarchs (capital) lead to after the destruction of socialism, Ukraine has clearly shown.
      2. CTEPX
        CTEPX 19 May 2014 02: 56
        -4
        Quote: Minus
        Do not blame a person for errors in the text.

        Quote: Minus
        We can consider a person who raised the issue of salaries in Russia a provocateur, but this problem is relevant.

        Quote: Minus
        The director makes me go to work on May 9 under pain of dismissal

        The technique you use is called: litter the topic. Or, in another way - to crap ... glade)). And the more holy and indisputable things are invented, the more effective the application.
      3. BLACK-SHARK-64
        BLACK-SHARK-64 21 May 2014 15: 05
        0
        Well done correctly, I will not even add ... In the Belgorod region, Kursk, Voronezh ... everywhere so ...
    2. eshkinKot
      eshkinKot 20 May 2014 08: 39
      -1
      if you were super smart, it would be clear to you that the person missed the word "your"
  6. White53
    White53 18 May 2014 18: 48
    +7
    And I live in Siberia! I worked in agriculture and in oil and in the "dalnyak", but I have not seen such a "cry of Yaroslavna" as you do! Who wants to make money!
    1. ermolai
      ermolai 20 May 2014 19: 50
      +1
      ... I have not seen such "Yaroslavna's crying" like yours! Who wants to, he earns! ...

      people have different situations, depending on the place of residence, conditions, opportunities, etc., but someone is not attached to anything, for me the problem is leaving 10 km from the house. and you say ...
  7. Nationalist
    Nationalist 18 May 2014 19: 36
    +4
    Listen Siberian, you yourself know a lot about Ukraine ??? people dream of a salary of 10 rubles, so there will be grace for them, I worked with them for 000 years and I know what kind of mood people have and what salaries
    1. BLACK-SHARK-64
      BLACK-SHARK-64 21 May 2014 15: 07
      0
      Dear, How do you explain that our dear and beloved RUSSIAN RUBLE is cheaper than the Ukrainian hryvnia ?????????????????????????
  8. papas-57
    papas-57 18 May 2014 20: 51
    +15
    "I live in Siberia, all the enterprises belong to Moscow." It is easier to list enterprises that do not belong to Moscow than vice versa, and money is being pumped to Moscow everywhere. This is some kind of `` black hole '' where money disappears, or rather turns into currency and disappears abroad. So the oligarchs are the same everywhere, even in Geyrop, even in Russia. The only difference is the impudence of these actions. Where oligarchs are even a little patriots of their country, everything happens in a civilized manner (they themselves live and give to others). And where the state does not give a damn (this also applies to Russia), it turns out as always - the oligarchs do whatever they want.
    1. BLACK-SHARK-64
      BLACK-SHARK-64 21 May 2014 15: 09
      0
      And YOU are very right ... Sometimes our oligarchs want to tear down their little heads .....
  9. Konsmo
    Konsmo 21 May 2014 10: 51
    0
    And what are you doing for these 10 thousand, and in which city, let me know?
    In during the Ukrainians, you have Muscovites. And you yourself are able to figure out something? Stupidly start a business. Buy a beer with friends, sit in a light, and look around, What you can start to do yourself. From roof repairs, wiring electricians selling ice cream to the beach. Throw in 10 thousand.
    Didn’t you really say anything, you didn’t learn to whine in your life.
    Open a company now with 10 thousand statutes (or write your computer to the authorized capital, where you are struggling with Muscovites, estimate 15 thousand. Under the law, up to 20 thousand valuers are not needed). 10-15 thousand draw up all papers with printing and open an account .
    All in a month, (approximately, for registration) you are the owner and no one decree is given to you.
    Go ahead and with the song.
    I work a lot with the Armenians. I am surprised at them. The guys 3-4 threw themselves off, opened a cafe near the market. The director walks around, complains about the profits, she has a wife and specialist in the kitchen and computers. Year 1.5 passes Audi buys itself.
    It’s also dumped with other compatriots, a sports bar is opened. Some shops, also together, here’s a children's candy store, not just sweets, but decorated, some kind of hearts, rings, stars, different packaging.
    I drove in before them on March 8, there was a queue, about 20 people, in a room of 10 square meters.
    Our Russians only complain about the Muscovites. Go and work.
    Today's oligarchs started with boiled jeans.
    I can’t find a normal waistcoat (without sleeves) for the summer, I can’t find black or black jeans. I want it as a friend, my sister sewed it.
    Men's robes are not normal-rich from velvet and in gift wrapping.
    Do what the hell you can look around. drinks
    PS Censorship words cuts sorry.
    1. Drannik_197
      Drannik_197 21 May 2014 13: 53
      0
      Audi buys laughing drinks
  • 1812 1945
    1812 1945 18 May 2014 15: 34
    +9
    Quote: Grandpa Vitya
    "If we want to see how independent regions unite back into a single state, but without neo-Nazi sectarians and oligarchs ..."
    We want it, but how do the Russian oligarchs and their proteges in the Russian government look at it?

    That's it - that's it! Oligarchs are not that in power, next to power should not be! And then you just hear: "elite".
    1. anfil
      anfil 18 May 2014 17: 35
      +4
      That's it - that's it! The oligarchs are not that in power, should not be next to the power!

      Oligarch - a person endowed with tremendous power in the country, not holding any major official posts in the state (he is not the President, nor the prime minister, nor a deputy of parliament), as a rule, a big businessman who has influence on the domestic and foreign policy of the state.
      QUESTION:Will the country's people be able to live in prosperity if the oligarchs in which billions of dollars are counted in this country?
      ANSWER: People everywhere can live in shortage)))
      There are practically no countries where there are no oligarchs
      The main thing is that the country either robbed the rest, or worked with an unbroken head,
      And "our" oligarchs are not ours at all, they are their protégés pumps pumping resources overseas.

      The question of where the oligarchs live is rather widespread. Most often, these people have many houses, apartments, estates, villas, cottages, mansions and the like. Where the oligarchs live nevertheless, Forbes magazine was able to record the density of billionaires in cities around the world. For the fourth time, the capital of our state turned out to be the most attractive for oligarchs. Each year their number only increases: in 2013 in Moscow, 6 people bought real estate. In total, today in the capital of Russia 84 billionaire residences are registered. The second city on the Forbes list where the most oligarchs live is New York. Here is the 62 property in which the world's richest families live. The third place of honor was divided among themselves by London and Hong Kong, which have in their population the 43 oligarch.
      That's all Russia is scammed, I just don’t understand to us like bees for honey or like flies for ...
      1. Genur
        Genur 18 May 2014 18: 09
        +4
        Better to ask WHO "protects" THEM ??? And - WHAT has ??
        And, in fact, the names are clearly overseas. There and send them.
        "It's a pity only at this wonderful time ..."
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 18 May 2014 15: 42
    +3
    They look badly, as if no one wants anything like that or cannot. What they wanted to have already taken and now will begin to divide, but as for the rest, everyone wants to live in the old way, without hassle and worries, sleep well, eat hearty and certainly not participate in the civil war. I suspect the most greedy and impatient are poking their noses on the subject of profit from the "inheritance" of Akhmetych, but judging by the absence of the slightest results, there is an instruction from the top to sit straight. Let's see what happens in a month.
  • Erg
    Erg 18 May 2014 15: 53
    +3
    You see the point, friend. Here I am for the fact that BB is in a difficult position. It is necessary to break into two fronts. I think we don’t know much
  • Tartary
    Tartary 18 May 2014 17: 55
    +3
    Again Russia? And then the oligarchs of Russia?
    What is the Russian government side by side with the events controlled by the fascist junta?
  • 4952915
    4952915 18 May 2014 23: 28
    +2
    What other "Russian oligarchs" ?! And who is their protégé ?! They have been banned from politics for a long time, from the moment Khodorkovsky was planted. No need to mechanically repeat the nonsense of the Maidan hamadryas, please.
  • Morgan
    Morgan 18 May 2014 15: 10
    +5
    Why pravoseki destroy everything, even a hedgehog is understandable - in Germany the fascists worked for the good of their country, as they understood it, and on the outskirts - for the good and on the instructions of the regional committee, which needs a hotbed of instability and profit ... Only business ... it’s not their own citizens, but wild Slavs ... And when did the West feel sorry for us ??? Everything is natural. There is nothing to be surprised at - there is something to regret and a desire to kill ... Who is also known! ..
    1. anfil
      anfil 18 May 2014 17: 59
      +2
      And in my opinion they, that the Slavs, that their own, they are deep on the drum. If it is profitable for them, THEY and "their" spank more than the Slavs.
      But the fact that business is involved here and a lot of money agrees to 200%, it is not for nothing that Franklin Templeton Investments, one of the largest American investment funds, continues to buy Ukrainian debt securities. About this writes Bloomberg with reference to the reporting fund. In the first three months of 2014, Franklin Templeton increased its portfolio of debt securities denominated in dollars and euros by $ 62 million. And the total value of the portfolio of Ukrainian Eurobonds in the fund's portfolio reached $ 7,6 billion.
      Now Ukrainian bonds cost a penny, they are very cheap, it is profitable to buy them, so that later, when the price rises, it is profitable to sell them.
      The entire strategy of the fund is based on the fact that the current Kiev government will be able to overcome political difficulties.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 18 May 2014 19: 44
        +1
        Quote: anfil
        Now Ukrainian bonds cost a penny, they are very cheap, it is profitable to buy them, so that later, when the price rises, it is profitable to sell them.
        The entire strategy of the fund is based on the fact that the current Kiev government will be able to overcome political difficulties.

        And if he can't? Or, suppose, the political will suddenly overcome by some incredible miracle, but in the meantime the economy will finally merge into the sewers? At one time, several countries - the same Argentina, for example - said in a similar situation "to all whom I owe, I forgive" - ​​and bond holders wiped themselves off with a couple of cents per dollar.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 18 May 2014 19: 38
      +4
      Quote: Morgan
      Only business ... It’s not their own citizens who die, but the wild Slavs ...

      But they themselves are not Slavs? I still remember the Soviet science of fraternal peoples. Although these Ivanes, who do not remember kinship, were driven into their heads for a long time that they were descendants of great ukrov, the very ones from whom all the monkeys descended in hoary antiquity. As Goebbels said, a lie repeated many times becomes true. So these Slavs will water the Slavs, and with genuine enthusiasm. Accordingly, the answer will be. The Slavs beat the Slavs on the orders of the Slavs - this is even Adolf only if he dreamed in his most rainbow dreams.
      Well, except for Kalomoisky, who nevertheless acquired an Israeli passport - just in case, and I guess somewhere in the hangar a small airplane (well, not a liner, but a business class) is filled up. But you need to have time to get to the airplane, and if they catch it, they will not be beaten by the passport, but by the face and other suitable places. What is bad - to the heap and completely uninhabited Jews because of this creature will fly.
  • ksv500
    ksv500 18 May 2014 15: 11
    +8
    People in Ukraine have been so powdered and brainwashed that before resolving issues in other regions, they will definitely need some kind of transition period in which the people will have the opportunity to hear true, objective information. Now just liberation is not enough, it is much more important to return the people to their side, to open their eyes.
  • Turk
    Turk 18 May 2014 15: 12
    +24
    Everything valuable that cannot be taken away from the Kiev impostors, they will drive through and be thrown to the wind, so every man who loves his Ukraine should take a gun and join the Resistance. It is necessary together to reset the junta, to become independent, to preserve values, and then agree with each other through an open vote - this is the leitmotif of the unification of the regions. In Ukraine, only Novorossia has so far demonstrated that it is capable of protecting the right to everyone’s will, while Kiev began European integration by killing political opponents.
    Touring tour !!!
    1. tokens2
      tokens2 18 May 2014 16: 17
      +3
      In Babai, even the gray hair of a beard does not stand out in camouflage ...

      Why not issue a Peter's decree in Russia ... Wear a beard! At least the culture ministry remembered Russian culture.
      How in the West they are afraid of a Russian beard ... what do they do on their Eurovision - do not feed them bread, just let them vulgarize everything! And they do it out of fear ... intentionally.

      Maybe it's time to talk to the West in a new "camouflage" -from Babay bully
      Moreover, on the cultural and ideological front as well.
      About diplomatic say nothing is Lavrov and Churkin decide winked
      1. saag
        saag 18 May 2014 18: 12
        +1
        Quote: Lexi2
        Why not issue a decree of Peter in Russia ... Wear a beard!

        Bad, Peter just fought with beards
  • pensioner
    pensioner 18 May 2014 15: 13
    +29
    Ukrainian Airborne Forces are now thrown at Slavyansk
    By the way. Why don't the Ukrainian paratroopers give up vests, blue berets, BMD, AKs, and the emblem of the landing troops? Also, after all, Soviet history ...
  • DanSabaka
    DanSabaka 18 May 2014 15: 14
    +12
    If banderlogs do not want to see Ukraine united and strong, then patriots from the DPR are simply obliged to unite Ukraine. Stalin did it.
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    2. creak
      creak 18 May 2014 16: 42
      +7
      Looking at the Ukrainian mess, you involuntarily come to the conclusion that something similar already happened in the Balkans in the former Yugoslavia. There Serbs and Croats also lived in the same country, spoke almost the same language (Serbo-Croatian, though Serbs are Orthodox, and Croats are Catholics. So During the German occupation, the majority of Croats actively supported Germany, and their punitive detachments (Ustashi) actively fought with the partisans of Tito and slaughtered entire Serb villages from small to large. Serbs, as you know, fought against the Germans. So all this is very reminiscent of the relationship between the Western and Eastern parts of Ukraine and the country seems to be one and the same language (although the religion is different). But the inhabitants of these two parts did not feel special love for each other even in Soviet times, the heyday of the general friendship of peoples. whose side were the Galicians and what they got up does not know only the lazy .. So you can combine it, but with the mentality it’s more difficult - this confirms how about the past experience of Yugoslavia and the current situation in Ukraine - the differences are much more serious and deeper than it seems at first glance. As they say, you won’t forcibly dear ...
      1. andj61
        andj61 18 May 2014 17: 02
        +4
        So in Ukraine, the center and the southeast are Orthodox, and Galicia is Greek Catholics (Uniates). So there are few differences from the Serbs and Croats. The bad thing is that many Orthodox are on the Uniate side.
        1. DanSabaka
          DanSabaka 18 May 2014 17: 26
          +4
          among the Orthodox the same split. part of the churches are subordinate to the Kiev patriarch, part - to the Moscow. it’s just a matter of money, nothing more.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 18 May 2014 17: 31
            +2
            Quote: DanSabaka
            among the Orthodox the same split

            You are absolutely right to split! Since 1596!
            1. DanSabaka
              DanSabaka 18 May 2014 17: 41
              +3
              ek you dug up that .... that split was fundamental, people defended traditions, defended the foundations of their faith .... and this split (1991) only because of money, because of whom to transfer the proceeds ....
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 18 May 2014 17: 55
                +1
                Quote: DanSabaka
                people defended tradition, defended the foundations of their faith ...

                Hmm, if something is talking about Uniates _
                Uniates, followers of the union, persons who adhered to the Greek Catholic (Uniate) confession and recognized the Union of Brest in 1596 on the merger of the Catholic and Orthodox churches under the leadership of the pope.

                request
                1. DanSabaka
                  DanSabaka 18 May 2014 18: 08
                  +1
                  from the point of view of an atheist (and I am an atheist) there are no religions more correct or more worthy ...
                  1. Cynic
                    Cynic 19 May 2014 12: 07
                    0
                    Quote: DanSabaka
                    from the point of view of an atheist

                    Hmm.
                    If you do not believe that God exists, then you automatically believe that God does not exist. You are believers like Christians.

                    And further _
                    In atheistic times at school, the teacher hung an icon on the blackboard and says to all the children: We all know that there is no God, this is opium for the people, let's all spit on the icon together. All together pah, that's just Vovochka did not spit. The teacher asks him: why don’t you spit, because there is no God? To which Vovochka answers: since there is no God, why do not care? And if so, why do I need such enemies?

                    We must not believe, but Know
                    1. DanSabaka
                      DanSabaka 19 May 2014 12: 30
                      0
                      exactly. I - I KNOW that there is no God .... But anyway, I do not allow myself to scold people who have Faith, regardless of their concession ....
                      1. Cynic
                        Cynic 19 May 2014 13: 48
                        0
                        Quote: DanSabaka
                        I - KNOW that there is no God ....

                        Hmm _
                        Knowledge, verified by practice, the result of cognition of reality, its true reflection in the human mind.

                        So ?
                      2. DanSabaka
                        DanSabaka 19 May 2014 15: 18
                        0
                        Yes. exactly so - the result of knowledge of reality checked by practice ....
                        physics, chemistry, mathematics, etc. Exact sciences indicate the impossibility of the existence of higher forces ....
                        but you have the right to try to prove the existence of God ....
                      3. eshkinKot
                        eshkinKot 20 May 2014 08: 55
                        -1
                        physics chemistry and other evidence just the opposite
                      4. DanSabaka
                        DanSabaka 20 May 2014 12: 11
                        +1
                        give an example, please ....
                      5. Cynic
                        Cynic 20 May 2014 13: 42
                        0
                        Quote: DanSabaka
                        give an example, please ....

                        Yes please !
                        Polish priest and mathematician Michal Geller was awarded the prestigious Templeton Prize in the amount of 820 thousand euros for a work that provides indirect evidence of the existence of God ... As reported, the theories of the professor not only contain evidence of the existence of God

                        So ?
                      6. DanSabaka
                        DanSabaka 20 May 2014 15: 01
                        0
                        Templeton prize of 820 thousand euros for a work that provides indirect evidence of the existence of God ...

                        and Lobachevsky parallel lines can intersect .....
                        diverges from practice ...
                      7. Cynic
                        Cynic 20 May 2014 17: 38
                        0
                        Quote: DanSabaka
                        diverges from practice ...

                        Clearly, there is nothing more to tell you.
                        Let me remind you _
                        “A person has freedom of choice, for otherwise advice, exhortations, edifications, rewards and punishments would be meaningless.”

                        hi
                  2. eshkinKot
                    eshkinKot 21 May 2014 15: 03
                    0
                    very briefly, the 2nd law of thermodynamics contradicts the theory of evolution in direct proportion, because of it thousands of scientists ceased to be at least atheists, google it will be interesting how a bunch of laws contradict evolution, there are more than 270 parameters necessary for life on earth (extremely unique terms)
                  3. Cynic
                    Cynic 21 May 2014 16: 28
                    0
                    Quote: eshkinKot
                    The 2nd law of thermodynamics contradicts the theory of evolution

                    For clarity _
                    The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics states that neither in 1000, nor 10000000, nor in an infinite number of years will a pile of bricks become a home. She will become a pile of dust. Thus, the 2nd Law unequivocally prohibits evolution.

                    It is debatable to compare living and non-living systems is incorrect.
                    Quote: eshkinKot
                    on earth more than 270 parameters necessary for life (extremely unique conditions)

                    Where there are no these parameters, there is no one to talk about the Mismatch.
                    wink
            2. yehat
              yehat 21 May 2014 07: 36
              0
              scientific methods of cognition exclude the very possibility of cognizing other entities from everyday life and exclude a lot of things, because systems of logic and evidence are rather narrow and also controversial. Finally, our language is a very powerful limitation of knowledge, because in it for frequent there simply are no definitions of non-everyday entities and there’s simply nothing to operate on. I'm not talking about the restriction from Gödel's incompleteness theorem. Therefore, I am sure that the position to explain everything from a scientific point of view is erroneous and even vicious. This is a bit like the church’s desire to explain everything using the Bible.
              those. recommendations to prove the existence of God (which by definition simply does not fit into the scientific system of definitions) is simply subtle mockery.
            3. Cynic
              Cynic 21 May 2014 10: 19
              0
              Quote: yehat
              it's just subtle mockery.

              Or lack of awareness about the statements of scientists.
              hi
      2. eshkinKot
        eshkinKot 20 May 2014 08: 53
        +1
        a strange statement, allegedly there is no God, are you a lope guy living on the earth? you saw everything? you know everything? flew around the universe? He looked into all the secrets of the universe and all its laws? And of course, do you know how the world happened?
      3. DanSabaka
        DanSabaka 20 May 2014 12: 11
        0
        He lived 45 years and did not see evidence of the presence of God ....
      4. yehat
        yehat 21 May 2014 07: 41
        0
        there’s one snag :) from the age of 20 I have been practicing Wushu. no one has ever seen anything related to internal energy. But those who practice know what it is and use it. The funny thing is that they cannot even say anything in Russian - there simply are no such words and terms, and telling someone else is problematic. So it turns out that until you come face to face, this world seems to be completely absent for others.
        Exactly the same with you))))

        By the way, quantum physics also does not exist for 99.9% of the population, despite the fact that there are textbooks, there are programs in universities and even a name. What a god there ...
      5. eshkinKot
        eshkinKot 21 May 2014 15: 05
        0
        read Krylov's fable "a pig under an oak tree" (this is not an insult)
  • 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 18 May 2014 22: 24
    0
    Quote: Cynic
    You are absolutely right to split! Since 1596!

    It seems that Patriarch Nikon carried out reforms later? In addition to the Russian Old Believers, no one burned himself, which means that the Nikonians died ...
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 19 May 2014 12: 11
      0
      Quote: 11111mail.ru
      It seems that Patriarch Nikon carried out reforms later?

      Then the Catholics fussed, could not convert the Orthodox to Catholicism, as they invented the synthetic religion.
      Uniates _ neither Orthodox, nor Catholics. In general, tolerance did not appear yesterday!
      1. yehat
        yehat 21 May 2014 07: 45
        0
        to divide religion into churches and their rules - this is such a go ... hm!
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 21 May 2014 10: 44
          0
          Quote: yehat
          it's such a go ... hm!

          It all depends on the point of view of religion.
          God forgive me and the possibility of using religion for any purpose.
          And she’s a powerful instrument _ Divide and conquer.
          Hmm, for some reason I recalled the parable about the construction of the Tower of Babel.
          Yes
          Adam was created: God created it from a piece of red clay. And then, so that humanity could be born from Adam, the first woman was created in a similar way. And her name was ... Lilith. But alas! - Lilith turned out to be a wayward special, primitive feminist, she did not want to obey Adam. Then the Creator had to get rid of her and create for Adam a more compliant female individual - Eve, and he created her from Adam’s rib.

          Weak and timid man
          Blind with the mind - and everything worries
  • eshkinKot
    eshkinKot 20 May 2014 08: 50
    0
    if the Orthodox are breaking away from church unity, this is already a schismatic, and not Orthodox, if
    1. DanSabaka
      DanSabaka 20 May 2014 12: 17
      0
      if the temple is Orthodox, services are held according to Orthodox canons, parishioners are Orthodox believers, then the church is Orthodox .... and to whom the revenue is credited is another question ... There is also the Georgian Orthodox Church .... and the Syrian. .. and Greek ....
      So in Ukraine, from the beginning of the 90s, two Orthodox dioceses ... part of the priests is subordinate to the Moscow patriarch, part - to the Kiev ....
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 20 May 2014 13: 49
        0
        Quote: DanSabaka
        There is also the Georgian Orthodox Church .... and the Syrian ... and the Greek ....

        Do you play misunderstanding?
        It is understandable, so the Jesuits promoted the unity of the masses, we are all Christians, well, you never know that we are baptized from left to right, but from right to left, etc. ? But we are Christians, we believe in Christ!
        I remember, at one time, when meeting with a stranger, the Cossacks said _ Cross!
        I think you know what the matter ended with, if not so baptized?
        1. DanSabaka
          DanSabaka 20 May 2014 15: 03
          0
          And where does it? Have you been in Ukraine for a long time? Have you been in temples there for a long time? .... There are not Uniates, but the same Orthodox ....
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 20 May 2014 17: 44
            0
            Quote: DanSabaka
            Have you been in temples there for a long time? .... There are not Uniates, but the same Orthodox ....

            In terms of mentality, they are more Catholics than Orthodox. But they preserve the external rites of the Orthodox Church, it entered into their existence and has been preserved for more than three hundred years. They are used to this and do not want external changes. However, we see that they are gradually changing anyway. For example, during the construction of new churches, we see that the iconostasis sometimes disappears and they serve as Catholics: facing the people. This shows that the Catholic Church has a tremendous impact on them.
            - And in terms of dogma?
            - Dogmatic theology shows that they departed from Orthodoxy. They accept those dogmas that we do not recognize, which the Catholic Church has accepted.
            ...
            - And why did the union concluded in Brest, on the territory of modern Belarus, take root mainly only among Ukrainians?
            - It depended on historical circumstances. Ukraine was a long term under the rule of Poland and Austria, and this had an impact.
  • DanSabaka
    DanSabaka 18 May 2014 17: 29
    +2
    Zapadentsev has already been brought under control once, and once again it is possible (necessary) .... as our school teacher used to say, thinking that he was quoting K. Marx: "Bitiyo determines consciousness!"
  • 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 18 May 2014 22: 20
    0
    Quote: ranger
    Serbs, as you know, fought against the Germans

    Have you forgotten about the Ustasha-Croats? Basically, the Chetniks fought against the Ustasha, and against the Croat Tito, to the best of their ability. But there weren't very many Germans, mostly Bulgarians - "brothers" of Serbs "kneaded" in alliance with the Ustash and Cossack-German formations.
  • GREAT RUSSIA
    GREAT RUSSIA 18 May 2014 15: 14
    +5
    And Kolomoisky and his "comrades-in-arms" are waiting for a very "unfavorable" outcome for them. Wait for the flight and the necessary train, but they have already bought one-way tickets. Doloy for fascism !! Down with separatism !!!!!!! soldier am
  • Vlad Gore
    Vlad Gore 18 May 2014 15: 16
    +1
    ... ukronatsi do not go the road of Hitler and German Nazism. They only imitate those who imitated the Germans 70 years ago - punishers capable of fighting only civilians.
    In a word, bandero monkeys (banderlogs). lol
  • AleksPol
    AleksPol 18 May 2014 15: 19
    +8
    What flyers. What a militia. When Svidomo rejoice how alive people are burned as they finish the wounded. There is nothing to explain to these nonhumans with words. If only young but also adult people (or nonhumans) are saturated with hatred for Russians and RUSSIA.
    1. yehat
      yehat 21 May 2014 07: 54
      0
      I am not inclined to blame the youth so sharply. What can they know if they just say that all the problems are from mos_ka_lei? Stupid and itchy hands, like any youth. I tend to blame their parents hard for
      1. the fact that there are no moral values ​​that could stop them
      2. that they deceive their children, do not tell the truth and thereby dig a hole for them

      Give me 10 years of ownership of the Ukrainian media and the youth will sympathize with the masses of Putin, Russians, green men or even Martians - of your choice.
  • nikrandel
    nikrandel 18 May 2014 15: 21
    +5
    I am sure the history of national fascism in Ukraine will end in a loop.
    Soon maydanutye will wholesale soap and rope.
    Good must always conquer evil, we know this from childhood.
  • alauda1038
    alauda1038 18 May 2014 15: 33
    +15
    alas, the cool Donbass miners chose to be ostriches and not protect their house, let others fight and I’ll hide in the slaughter, I’ve added 20 percent (although gastrobayters in Russia earn more)
  • Giant thought
    Giant thought 18 May 2014 15: 38
    +3
    The Maydan fascists will have the same end as the German fascists. But how much folk blood these go. Will still manage to shed, God alone knows. But the victory will definitely be with the people.
  • bubalik
    bubalik 18 May 2014 15: 40
    +4
    ,,, 89% of voting participants in the "referendum" supported the act on the annexation of the Kuban to the Cherkasy region, 5% - spoke against and 1% - spoiled ballots, TVi reports belay fool


    ,,,according to activists of the Right Sector, the last "site" was closed an hour earlier due to the fact that "voter turnout exceeded 100%".,,,Blimey laughing

    ,,, and in my kitchen a referendum was held on the accession of Kiev to the penguins of Antarctica. Turnout 100%. Despite the fact that the cat Vaska abstained from voting, the overwhelming majority of votes are in favor. laughing
  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 18 May 2014 15: 51
    +2
    What is the legacy already? For 23 years, oligarchs and all and sundry have been pulling away! And now all that has not been dragged away is "privatized" by the Americans for next to nothing!
    1. sazhka4
      sazhka4 18 May 2014 23: 12
      +1
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      And now all that has not been dragged away is "privatized" by the Americans for next to nothing!

      The first of the planned rallies in the framework of the American Spring campaign took place in Washington, and the protesters took to the streets under the slogans “Arrest Obama!” and “Obama lost!” The main demands of the demonstrators are the resignation of Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, Senator Harry Reid and other key American politicians and the closure of all US military bases abroad.http: //vz.ru/news/2014/ 5/18 / 687264.html
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  • Per se.
    Per se. 18 May 2014 15: 56
    +3
    I have long had the feeling that Ukrainian nationalists are somehow wrong.
    The point here is not in their "German teachers", but in their American masters, who do not need a strong Ukraine. In general, the United States and a strong, independent Europe are not needed. What the Ukrop Natsiks are doing is very natural, nationalism is a manifestation of an inferiority complex, and not a natural desire to protect and preserve the species. Without the opportunity to rise from their wretchedness, the Nazis exalt themselves by destroying and humiliating others, and this turned out to be very helpful for their transatlantic puppeteers. And what is needed is not simple slogans, sympathy and truthful information in the fight against Banderism, but quite real financial assistance, weapons, instructors and volunteers, as opposed to all American tricksters from Blackwater and other concerns from the CIA and the US State Department.
  • blizart
    blizart 18 May 2014 15: 58
    +4
    The Chinese (our new partners) say: Anyone in a hurry is always in time and everywhere.
  • mamont5
    mamont5 18 May 2014 16: 06
    +3
    “I have long had the feeling that Ukrainian nationalists are somehow wrong. Their German teachers, immediately after coming to power, tried to make Germany stronger by joining everyone who could be considered compatriots at any stretch - Alsatians, Sudeten Germans, Austrians. In Ukraine, the opposite is true. - In a matter of weeks of their rule, the nationalists managed to alienate their fellow citizens, lost several regions, and put the country's sovereignty in the IMF pawnshop. "

    And what is incomprehensible here? Germany itself chose its own path, no matter how bloody it was, and Ukraine, represented by its "government" - the junta, is just an executor of the US will of others. And it does everything that its owners say, even to the detriment of itself. The entire EU is infected with the same disease, despite their rather large ambitions.
  • fly fishing
    fly fishing 18 May 2014 16: 11
    +2
    There is a section of Ukraine. The authorities in Kiev do not understand or do not want to understand. Yes, what kind of authorities are there, so puppets of the West fool
  • Signaller
    Signaller 18 May 2014 16: 14
    -1
    Of course everything is clear. But here is one question, who will inform them of an unrighteous act. Who! Zampolit ??? So for example, we carried them. They apparently too. Who???? Specifically. I'm certainly not the original, but who ???? Now in our army who is thinking about brains ????? Father ???? Or the teacher is not clear what. This is waiting for us (lyrical digression-litter)
    The motto is "No one but us" is a good motto, it is directed only to an unjust cause. And so, smash, kill, turn heads to our opponents, and after us even a flood. This is what the pravoseki say to them. By the way, they have it very well superimposed. Flush the brains. And we are all amateur educators.
    1. not main
      not main 18 May 2014 18: 04
      0
      Quote: Signaller
      Who! Zampolit ???

      In the army, one-man management and for everything in the subunit, unit, and unit are the responsibility of the COMMANDER!
  • tnship2
    tnship2 18 May 2014 16: 20
    +5
    Meanwhile, the southern stream is already on its way. Pipes with a wall of 58 mm capable of holding pressure at great depths in Vyksa are already stamping in full swing. So, Kiev just has nothing to think about, before the cold. And then the stream along the Crimea and to King Orban passes by Nezalezhnaya . Do not want to humanly-get honest.
  • RUSS
    RUSS 18 May 2014 16: 24
    0
    Militias: the National Guard has moved to the city executive committee of Kramatorsk, there is a battle


    MOSCOW, May 18 - News. Troops of the National Guard of Ukraine started moving from the airfield in Kramatorsk towards the city executive committee, there are clashes, the coordinator of the Kramatorsk militia said this on the telephone of RIA Novosti


    “The troops of the National Guard moved from the airfield towards the city executive committee. The battle is ongoing, ”the agency’s interlocutor said.

    According to him, while those who are at the post of the city executive committee do not participate in the hostilities.

    “Sirens howled, anxiety in the city,” he said.

    Kiev authorities are conducting a special operation in eastern Ukraine to suppress the protest movement. The power operation led to dozens of victims and wounded. In the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, “people's republics” were proclaimed, after referenda on the status of the regions declaring their sovereignty.
  • sergey261180
    sergey261180 18 May 2014 16: 27
    +2
    I have long had the feeling that Ukrainian nationalists are somehow wrong. Their German teachers ...

    Not Hitler is their teacher, but Leo Davidich Trotsky (Bronstein). Everything happens according to the scenario of the civil war and intervention of 1918-1923. There is only one goal - to genocide a larger population, to pump out mineral resources. Enough of the Germans to shit.
  • psychologist
    psychologist 18 May 2014 16: 35
    +7
    Quote: Grandpa Vitya
    "If we want to see how independent regions unite back into a single state, but without neo-Nazi sectarians and oligarchs ..."
    We want it, but how do the Russian oligarchs and their proteges in the Russian government look at it?

    but what to look at, and so it is clear that the legacy there will be poor!
  • aepocmam
    aepocmam 18 May 2014 16: 41
    0
    In my opinion, the author is right. It is necessary to massively print and dump FLYERS over the territory of Ukraine. In conditions of total dominance in Ukraine of corrupt media, only SHEETS can successfully compete with radio, television, and the Internet. A well-composed SHEET can very clearly, concisely and convincingly convey the necessary information to the addressee. It can be read at a convenient time, saved, transferred to another.
  • Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 18 May 2014 16: 57
    +1
    I have long had the feeling that Ukrainian nationalists are somehow wrong.

    History, as you know, is repeated in the form of farce. In this case, with the help of the Americans. And the color of the blood does not change.
  • muginov2015
    muginov2015 18 May 2014 16: 58
    +8
    Maybe it's time to finish the Great experiment on the topic "prove that you are a single nation - get independence", which was muddied by three trips ... in Belovezhskaya Pushcha a little more than 20 years ago. Well, everything, the results are known: Belarusians, Kazakhs. Even Turkmens are thin poorly survived the gap and quite live in their own, albeit not the richest, but rather independent states, where they no longer poke Russian-speaking in the face, they respect Russia. Little by little it dawned on everyone that if only Russia would really pin it down and help by and large .And only the proud and "nezalezhnaya" all these years was engaged in one thing - she puffed up the country and swelled like a toad in the East. And the worse things went, the more the baboon's back was poured into the "damned mos .... her" as the reason for all their failures. .Vse.Arrived, as they say. There is nowhere to go further. It's time to say like: "Have you played enough horseradish in spillikins? Sha guys! You were given a CHANCE! And you fucked it up! accumulated in under the Polish-Romanian rug, and those who still have a conscience with the eastern territories back home, I said home! there is nothing to do in the yard, with every shantrap - you will still get everyone from the buligans. Home! do not forget to teach lessons and wash your hands "So the experiment, one might say, ended deplorably - there is no such nation-dill, but there are immature undergrowths who have strayed from mother's hands and need harsh methods of re-education (father's strap on a hanger)
  • A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 18 May 2014 17: 03
    +1
    Quote: alauda1038
    alas, the cool Donbass miners chose to be ostriches and not protect their house, let others fight and I’ll hide in the slaughter, I’ve added 20 percent (although gastrobayters in Russia earn more)


    After the collapse of the Union, all the republics scattered around, gaining freedom, some even choked on this freedom, began to plunder, pull away, sell all the good, factories, factories, the entire industry in all directions, instantly millionaires, billionaires, new Russians appeared out of nowhere. The era of pohma ... has come, in Russia they even come to their senses in time, and in Ukraine it continues to this day, there’s nothing to be taken away there, only the natural resources that the junta sells to the USA remain. Then the Commander-in-Chief Strelkov lamented that few people go to the militia, and where do you get the shit ... well, he has eaten so much into the consciousness of people that there is nothing left in his brain, why the miners, the most advanced working class, are silent Moreover, in 23 years they were turned into weak-willed dolls, well, they made a little noise, the owner threw them ten percent of the increase and they shut up, climbed into the slaughter again. They declared mobilization in the republic, there is no expected effect, the experience of the civil war of 18-22 years would be useful here when both white and red forcedly mobilized.
  • Tatarus
    Tatarus 18 May 2014 17: 29
    +5
    Simple and clear. The bulk of the Ukrainians (both in the east and in the west) are only worried about the size of the shredded fat shmat. My hut with the edge of the bed does not come out. This is not a concern for families, it is not fear for loved ones no. This is servile blood. Let the bar be sorted out and we will bend even lower for the extra humpback and spread the buttocks. Here they composed for us, we will never be brothers and they say we will never be free ... The slaves and stinks themselves. The only men in the Southeast are fighting the enemy. The rest (corrupt miners) are simply CRAFTS stinking with fear. No need to save them. It is necessary to take out the soldiers and the family of soldiers, and leave these passive ones to the right-wingers. Who knows, maybe they will like these hatskraynikami. Maybe they are waiting for this.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 18 May 2014 17: 38
    +4
    What's the point with these leaflets, when every home has a TV and the Internet? Can then scatter memory cards with video files or indicate links to resources in leaflets? You must understand that while they are broadcasting pro-blood propaganda from TVs and radio 24/7, nothing can be done. It's another matter when there is no gas, electricity, money. Then the brain will start thinking for itself. I just remember the newspaper "God forbid". Remember this one? Yeltsin was released before the second election. Oh, how the communists were playing there. And so and so ... And after all, they probably achieved their goal, part of the people voted against the communists in the elections, chose with their hearts. Here it is the same. In the regime of massive propaganda, you simply do not have the opportunity to analyze and you join the herd of "do like everyone else." And the leaflet ... well, wipe it up, wrap the fish or fire it up. It will come in handy.))
  • Arkan
    Arkan 18 May 2014 17: 51
    +3
    If we want to see how independent regions unite back into a single state, but without neo-Nazi sectarians and oligarchs, the ground must be prepared for this immediately.


    It's too late to drink Borjomi. It did not work in Georgia and it will not work in Ukraine, to reassemble what was not whole.
  • Andryukha Siberian
    Andryukha Siberian 18 May 2014 18: 29
    +4
    Quote: Sergh
    Quote: kuzia-roker
    I live in Siberia

    Zdarova land, if you're not lying ..., I'm from Novosibirsk, and you understand this in Siberia and would like to know what landfill you get 10 thousand a month? Although ..., in spelling, grammar:
    Quote: kuzia-roker
    dombasom

    Quote: kuzia-roker
    what is in Russia

    Everything is clear with you! Yes la bol!

    It’s great to land. Siberia, as you know, is big. And do not compare salaries in Novosibirsk with salaries, for example, in Angarsk. In Novosibirsk, a forwarder receives 25-35 thousand, and in Angarsk a driver-forwarder with a personal truck 20-30 thousand. In addition, prices we have higher. And about the dump you are in vain.
  • mamont5
    mamont5 18 May 2014 18: 32
    +1
    Then mad Yulia again spoke and said that in Ukraine it is necessary to hold a referendum on joining NATO (one would think that someone is waiting for Ukraine there).

    "Yulia Tymoshenko called for an immediate referendum on Ukraine's joining NATO.
    According to Yulia Tymoshenko, joining NATO is a “civilizational choice” for Ukraine, Interfax reports.

    “At a time when ... every Ukrainian family lives in a heavy premonition of war, when our army is not so strong as to protect our borders - we need to find complex but effective solutions to bring peace back to Ukraine. Such a decision could be Ukraine’s accession to the EU and NATO, ”the statement said on the official website of Tymoshenko.

    “No politician can do it alone, this is the exclusive right of the people of Ukraine. That’s why I suggested immediately holding a referendum on these issues, ”the presidential candidate noted.

    In her opinion, her rival in the upcoming elections, Petro Poroshenko, "makes a big mistake when he abandons NATO, without even asking the Ukrainian people how the people want to defend themselves." She called this "disregard for the principles of democracy."
    http://russian.rt.com/article/32455

    True, if this fool looked ahead a little farther than her sneaky nose, she would see that NATO has long been breathing its last breath and is unlikely to be able to protect anyone.

    "Der Spiegel: NATO is defenseless against the Russian army
    At the disposal of Der Spiegel was a draft report on the combat readiness of NATO forces in Europe. This document states that if Russia attacks the Baltic states, NATO will not be able to answer: neither the military equipment nor the trained contingent will be enough for the alliance. Such a situation, according to the publication, questions the meaning of the existence of the whole union.
    “Our commitment to collective defense is unshakable, both now and in the future,” said NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, speaking in Warsaw and Tallinn. These were friendly, but empty words, which Rasmussen is well aware of, writes the German weekly Der Spiegel. At the disposal of the publication were documents stating the inability of the alliance to protect the Baltic states.
    At the moment, the state of the alliance is such that it is not in a position to defend the Baltic states with conventional weapons - tanks, aircraft and ground forces. And if NATO is really unable to protect its ally, this violates Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty and calls into question the existence of the alliance, the article says. The Bundestag does not rule out that perhaps this is Vladimir Putin's goal. "
    http://russian.rt.com/inotv/2014-05-18/Der-Spiegel-NATO-bezzashhitno-pered
    1. Korablev
      Korablev 18 May 2014 21: 31
      0
      Quote: mamont5
      True, if this fool looked forward a little further than her sneaky nose, she would see that NATO

      It is not known how far it looks, but this shrill statement is just an election campaign, it works for a certain electorate.
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    3. Korablev
      Korablev 18 May 2014 21: 34
      0
      Quote: mamont5
      if Russia attacks the Baltic states, NATO will not be able to answer: neither the military equipment nor the trained contingent will be enough for the alliance

      and diapers aren’t enough either
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  • Imperial
    Imperial 18 May 2014 18: 35
    +6
    The war is more likely for the minds, but is the mind left? I remember how Talkov sang about Russia, wondering how you could give yourself to be torn apart by vandals. What happened to us? how did we give ourselves? Okay, now we seem to be on the mend, but what about Ukraine? Hatred is skyrocketing. PM ​​SM, if they don't intervene now, they will kill each other. And although there is justice in this, but it is difficult to somehow internalize it. May 2 Brigade: First of the Pyro

    Before the last step, activists of the May 2 Brigade talked to her. They were extremely polite and convincing. Odessa arsonists and arsonists, your list is very long, but the guys have no emotions left at all, only patience and a desire to find everyone. Everything else inside burned out on May 2.

    I remind you "Svidomo" all over New Russia. Everyone who participated in the "Odessa Khatyn". Everyone who rejoiced at the terrible death of the Odessa children. Everyone who helped the Nazis ... The principle of talion is much older than the proto-Ukriya and "united Ukraine" - and this principle has now remained the only law on the territory of the dead Ukrainian state. You cannot imagine what powers you awakened that day.
    One of the "Euromaidan" activists who poured Molotov cocktails in Odessa on May 2 and then enjoyed the "fried Colorades" could not stand the pangs of conscience. The path from the roof turned out to be mercifully short - the guys in the House of Trade Unions were dying worse and longer.

    The young arsonist lived on the Dnepropetrovsk road 68. She jumped herself. http://da-dzi.livejournal.com/226343.html
  • Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 18 May 2014 18: 36
    +5
    This is rightly noticed, the army is not needed for the ruin (there is no one to fight with) it needs punitive to fight the people.
  • Andrey Ulyanovsky
    Andrey Ulyanovsky 18 May 2014 18: 37
    +1
    Blue and yellow on ukroterritorii in scale and volume of lies that in Internet, that on TV our media replay with their truth "quilted jackets" - in a vessel full of der.ma pour nothing, burp, sir.
    For whom and for what - all THERE have already decided, therefore, you just need help "one against the other" and others can only be frightened by real economic pressure (easier - strangulation) and military losses incompatible with the result of victory. And this is needed now, after the announcement of the 1st Ukraine (and it will be the "correct" Ukrainian) it will be too late.

    I advise http://tomsk.fm/watch/290429 - ukroSMI business on the blood (Putin cynically shot from a grenade launcher ... There are no words.
  • serge siberian
    serge siberian 18 May 2014 18: 42
    0
    everyone knows where the usa is climbing. the DNR has already separated this is a fact. and only the blind and deaf do not recognize this! but the "dill" pretend that they are correct (legitimate) authorities and there are no other authorities in Ukraine! Yes, after all, Russian is not their main language , so we will not admit it. Yes, and there in the east there are a lot of "economics". They themselves still have to rise up against the Nazi scum.
    I can’t say how it will be! but there must be what is called the struggle for your freedom. In short: "algators" always eager for power, potential patients of psychiatrists!
  • jktu66
    jktu66 18 May 2014 18: 57
    +2
    Any valuable things that cannot be taken from Kiev impostors, they will eat and throw into the wind, so every man who loves his Ukraine should take a gun and join the Resistance. In Ukraine, only Novorossia has so far demonstrated that it is able to protect the right of everyone to express their will, Kiev, on the other hand, began European integration by killing political opponents.
    This is what needs to be explained to the inhabitants of Ukraine. A referendum on independence from the Kiev junta is already going to be held in the Kharkov region. I hope that by the end of the year the junta will have only western Ukraine.
  • northern
    northern 18 May 2014 19: 12
    +2
    Yes, that’s the whole point, neither the law-enforcement agencies, nor the junta, nor all kinds of people have anything even close to the idea. National, patriotic, expansionist - does not matter. These characters have absolutely no ideology whatsoever. There are no formalized beliefs. So in this they even lose to the tattered Vlasovites, Benderaites and fascists, thereby, from the 30-40s.
  • Yves762
    Yves762 18 May 2014 19: 23
    +3
    I think the topic will be:
  • Korablev
    Korablev 18 May 2014 19: 32
    +5
    Meanwhile
    in the Crimea smelled of Tatars:
    After the rally dedicated to the anniversary of the deportation of the Crimean Tatars from the peninsula, on the outskirts of Simferopol, participants adopted a resolution demanding that the status of Crimea be changed.
    It is specified that the peninsula should become a national-territorial autonomy, which guarantees the restoration of the rights of the Crimean Tatar people.

    US Secretary of State John Kerry expressed solidarity with the Crimean Tatar people on the occasion of the 70th anniversary of the deportation, which is celebrated on May 18. This was reported in a statement by Kerry on the official website of the State Department.
    “For many Crimean Tatars, these abuses are still fresh in their memory, and the Russian occupation and the illegal attempt to annex Crimea have reopened old wounds,” the Secretary of State said.

    And we must again deport from the Crimea all the Tatars, so as not to stir up the water, and clearly on the instructions of the State Department.
    Who does not like in Crimea, please: suitcase-station-Turkey
    1. Sanmak
      Sanmak 18 May 2014 20: 50
      +3
      100% all this for green candy wrappers from n, and, n, d, o, s, o, v! In the Crimea, with the Tatars, it is necessary to actively conduct "watered information", so to speak, on the right path! I think there (among the Tatars) there will be adequate people, but with the inadequate we must actively work ... And yet, there should not be any privileges for the Tatars before other peoples, otherwise they will be completely cut off !!!
      A handful of Tatars cannot decide for the whole Crimea, even if they are paid by n, and, n, d, o, s, o, v !!! So, hello to "bananichu monkey" !!! fool
      1. Barboskin
        Barboskin 18 May 2014 21: 11
        +4
        Imagine the 16th century. The southern outskirts of Russia. The village of farmers, 25 yards, about 150 inhabitants. One day the Tatars attacked, the village was completely burned and plundered. A third of the inhabitants killed are old and old women. The rest, younger ones, were driven into slavery. People are driven like cattle, the Tatars themselves on horseback, who cannot go will be killed. Going through the steppe, there is no water, they feed poorly. We reached Perekop, about 80 people remained prisoners, maybe less. We have to go further, the Crimea is even worse, scorched earth, heat. Bakhchisaray, reached 70 people. 20 left slaves, concubines, etc. The rest was sold to the Turks. So it has been several centuries. In the 18th century, we conquered the Crimea, accepted the Tatars into our family, forgave and forgot past grievances. We are a great people, we can forgive, and we are Christians. We offended them once. We apologized, we tried to fix everything that is possible. But they did not forget the insult, they will still remember it to us. Just waiting for an opportunity.
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    3. Tanechka-clever
      Tanechka-clever 18 May 2014 21: 39
      +1
      I agree - over the years, they began to feel themselves to their masters and terrorize the Russian population and began to dictate their own rules. Stalin deported them and there were good reasons for that - the war was brutal and they shed their blood least of all and now it is not for them to complain. And today they just need to live, or even the Russians then have something to answer and then in response to regular rallies begin to hold. And then Russians are not allowed - but everyone else can. Hey, Russian nationalists - finally start to do something with the mind - we have more reasons than, if really - otherwise the youth have nowhere to put their impulse to. Or in our country, as in Ukraine, the whole business is in the hands of the Jews, who organize the "swamp", then the Maidan. Then it's time to nationalize the business - Russia is not Israel and most of the Russians live here, and not wait until they tell us "the suitcase is beyond the Urals"
    4. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 18 May 2014 21: 49
      +1
      I do not think that the entire Crimean Tatar population has imperial ambitions. Any social group has its own thugs. There are very few of them, but they are like a fly in the ointment in a barrel of honey. The status of the Crimean Tatars is quite definite, and these scumbags must be dealt with as they did in Moscow with the "beloletochniki".
  • Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 18 May 2014 20: 04
    +5
    Again the Crimean Tatars? Here are the Iblis children! Why can’t they sit?

    Maybe they want a repeat of 1944?
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  • Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever 18 May 2014 20: 59
    0
    "Ukrainian nationalists are somehow wrong" - certainly not right. Hitler professed, good or bad, the ideology of Nazism and the interests of the German nation.
    And maydanutye is, by and large, all the same struggle of the village as the idea of ​​Bandera with the city of Kiev. By the way, the people of Kiev simply did not understand this and did not even notice. The words "village against the city" are not mine - I will not assign myself such an important and true historical place of the junta in the history of Ukraine - I read somewhere. But many thanks to the author of this interpretation of the Kiev junta - I completely agree with the author.
    But there is one more important remark - but from me - if you look closely who organized and sponsored the coup in Ukraine - it is the Jewish Americans and Israel in the person of their citizens - Kolomoisky is the mayor of Dnepropetrovsk, Golovets is the one who claims to be at the head of Odessa. Both were the organizers of the brutal murder in Odessa on May 25, both are citizens of Israel. He and the other approved, approved this murder and bullying in the square after the fire over the survivors in front of a dozen deputies and the police, and just citizens of Odessa. So in Ukraine today the interests of JEWS are being defended, not Ukrainians - this is the main difference. And after the completion of the punitive operations, Yarosh and his team will be destroyed - Israel has great experience in this and it is not for him to fight against the Israeli and US special services. This is Yarosh in the south-east and in Odessa, he can be brave against the civilian population. And to be so sure - as long as the Jews allow him. But it's time for Yarosh to sum up - I think he has already been given a day and let him prepare and his place will soon be taken by "Freedom" and Tyagnibok.
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      1. Apollo
        Apollo 18 May 2014 21: 33
        +2
        Quote: Korablev
        It may somehow sound wrong, but Hitler was more like a bee Nazi intellectual, with his own theory developed, an idea, no matter how monstrous it was.


        You have been "pondering" for a long time about the vyser that you have painted here. It is not surprising that your rating is negative.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 18 May 2014 22: 48
      -2
      Interestingly, how many Jews in 40mln Ukraine? Well, in parliament, in law enforcement agencies in the media? Somehow you do not respect Ukrainians, if you think that a handful of Jews, even among them there are billionaires, can manipulate the whole people.
      1. Tanechka-clever
        Tanechka-clever 19 May 2014 00: 29
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        you do not respect Ukrainians

        It is the Ukrainians who do not respect themselves, and you do not respect the specialists in the orange revolutions - or as I call neo-colonization. Previously, colonization was carried out through military power by the invaders, but now they use the country's internal resources to maintain "democracy" in the world, but the result is the same - external control in the interests of the colonizer. Everything in the world is bought and sold - it is not justice in the world that proves it. It is easy to manipulate society and public opinion - the main thing is "divide and rule". Therefore, one society develops, while another suddenly degrades. So far, people are more likely to think about personal welfare, not public. And they don't want to see beyond their nose. Otherwise, it would not have been possible to destroy such a powerful state as the USSR, and divide the public wealth and assign it to a small group of the same kind, who suddenly became the owners of the national property - and where the people were looking. By the way, then in the USSR there were much more than 40 million
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  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 18 May 2014 21: 31
    +1
    An anecdote in the subject.
    - Little Johnny, why don't you learn history?
    - And what to teach her if history does not teach anyone.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 18 May 2014 22: 01
      +1
      Little Johnny, what did you do
      - gave shells ..
      And what did the soldiers tell you?
      - Good Waldemar!
      If there are such jokes, then there are a bunch of critters ..
      1. Korablev
        Korablev 18 May 2014 22: 05
        -3
        This is not a joke, but some kind of frenzy, what is the humor as conceived by the author?
        1. Barakuda
          Barakuda 18 May 2014 22: 12
          0
          Live, take part in 30 years, you yourself will understand.
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          2. Korablev
            Korablev 19 May 2014 19: 43
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            Yes, how much green for "30 years" was spent, but there seems to be no sense.
  • targitai
    targitai 18 May 2014 22: 25
    0
    And why has our government still not spoken about the referendum in the DNI and LC? Why is the central media talking less about them?
    1. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 19 May 2014 05: 36
      0
      why didn’t speak out, it’s said after all - we respect the referendum. until it seems they just have not decided what to express this respect
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  • akm8226
    akm8226 18 May 2014 22: 28
    +4
    Nonsense. You do not know the inhabitants of Ukraine. They will sit in huts to the last, in the hope of sho blowing their bowl. They are degenerates. In Odessa, people were burned alive, on the sidewalk young twigs poured gasoline into bottles - and not a single man approached those bitches and did not drive their filthy faces off their feet - they all watched in silence. And did not intervene. So the music played in vain, the fraer danced in vain - nothing will happen.
  • Chikua
    Chikua 18 May 2014 22: 34
    0
    Help DNR

    help than we can ...
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 18 May 2014 22: 50
      +4
      Quote: Chikua
      Help DNR

      help than we can ...

      Beware of scammers !!
    2. fktrcfylhn61
      fktrcfylhn61 20 May 2014 17: 13
      0
      It seems that there are no government resources left? Which wise man posted it? Or from which planet flew? There is such a word CORRUPTION! We already have a state consisting of officials of all stripes and their entourage! In which the concept of social policy is associated only with ourselves! And the seizure of territories with our hands and at our expense? Truly the time of the absurd!
  • Barakuda
    Barakuda 18 May 2014 22: 34
    +3
    Under my glass on the wall there are orders and medals of my Grandfathers officers -Icon, in this case. Thanks to them that I was born ...
  • engen89
    engen89 18 May 2014 22: 48
    +2
    Recently I moved to Moscow, I got a former AZLK at the Avtoframos (Renault) plant, I get 36 thousand salary + bonus, a freebie, very often there are part-time jobs (they say up to 70 thousand), one third of Russians, one third of Caucasians, one third of Central Asia, all are adequate guys