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Storms are still coming. Causes of calm in the emerging Novorossia

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The south and east of the former Ukraine are now not only in a different legal status, but also in a different actual state. Therefore, a lull in these regions is due to various reasons.


The lull in the relatively passive south is primarily due to the fact that Kiev had to concentrate the bulk of its combat-ready militants in the openly resisting east. In addition, those who stayed in the south (mainly in Odessa) have already done so much for intimidation (remember, at least, a massacre in the Odessa Trade Union House) that they are forced to stop, because now they risk further their activities in this direction rather embitter the people before the explosion, than to achieve complete submission.

As for the actions of the militants in the east, the hottest heads there, it seems, have cooled the ambush near the Kramatorsk Donetsk region. Even the Kiev revolutionaries themselves were forced to admit the loss of seven people there. Judging by how much military equipment is lost, the Donbass is really free from the presence of a noticeably larger number of bandits.

Moreover, the leaders of Donbass themselves rightly noted: now, after the success of the referendum, they have the moral right not only to defend themselves, but also to attack. Consequently, in the near future, the militants will face not isolated checkpoints and practically unarmed citizens, but already well-organized and coordinated resistance. But practically everyone who fights out of greed or from politically misconceptions is ready to kill, but not to die. Accordingly, in the near future, the militants will either try to accumulate absolutely superior forces (which is almost impossible: the mobilization potential of the Donbass facing the threat to their lives is much greater than the number of Ukrainianization fanatics), or (which, in my opinion, is incomparably more likely) will find ways to escape from this the region, while it is still possible to do it with your own feet, not feet first.

Of course, it cannot be ruled out that the accomplices of the Kiev coup d'état will be able to accumulate really superior forces in some direction and kill some more civilians, but I do not think that this will last for long. Most likely, in the near future, the lull will be replaced by the complete liberation of the east of Ukraine from these criminals. And then, I hope, the east will find a way to support the liberation of my native south.
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  1. psychologist
    psychologist 17 May 2014 14: 54
    +48
    Yes, they are coming !! fascists and their ideologists will not want to lose tidbits of the southeast! but people understand everything! and will definitely choose the right path !! More precisely already chose !!
    1. Morgan
      Morgan 17 May 2014 14: 57
      +25
      Fashikam in the drum, what someone chose there, so there is a moral right to drown them in the outhouse
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      2. chehywed
        chehywed 17 May 2014 15: 25
        +86

        Something like that...
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 17 May 2014 15: 44
          +22
          Quote: chehywed
          Something like that...


          Kiev and Lviv, you just wait !!!

          Yes, and an armored train that is on the siding !!! Tattered but standing as it was, not a centimeter to the side !!! yes
          1. mnbv199
            mnbv199 17 May 2014 15: 48
            +13
            I advise you to see the news of the South-East on sites

            http://rusvesna.su/news/1...

            http://s-narodom.ru/yuogovostok/
            1. vedross
              vedross 17 May 2014 21: 41
              +2
              Thank you!
            2. avia1991
              avia1991 17 May 2014 22: 51
              -1
              Quote: mnbv199
              I advise you to see the news of the South-East on sites

              Thank!..
              Like a butt on the back of your head! Here it is: http://rusvesna.su/news/1400342995
              Igor Ivanovich himself is clearly outraged and disappointed: all the loud statements about the patriotic impulses of the Donetsk people - is it an empty phrase?
              1. Klarsen
                Klarsen 20 May 2014 14: 49
                0
                Talking is one thing, doing is quite another. If the Reds come, then I just spoke, but quietly (and when voting even secretly) and didn’t do anything against; and whites will come, so I'm for REFERENDUM, almost a hero of anti-Maidan.
                Just some kind of opportunism. "I voted, and now do not interfere with your business." Let them save me!
                With such a position - chaos, loss of life, banditry, total deception on the part of the authorities and the oligarch masters cannot be overcome for another ten years. Apparently, until another generation grows up, which did not know a peaceful life, and it will be normal for him to fight.
          2. parus2nik
            parus2nik 17 May 2014 16: 46
            +10
            By the way, it’s time to translate the action by rail .. Recall the time of the Civil War ..
      3. 1812 1945
        1812 1945 17 May 2014 16: 04
        +12
        Quote: Morgan
        Fashikam in the drum, what someone chose there, so there is a moral right to drown them in the outhouse

        Right. Only arithmetic can deprive such people of motivation: on the one hand, money may have been earned in a dubious future, on the other, really cold corpses of homies - ukrov, who will not receive any "pennies". The sooner there are more people drowned in the outhouse, the more peaceful the purchased "army" will be.
      4. WKS
        WKS 20 May 2014 11: 58
        +1
        Quote: Morgan
        But almost everyone who fights from self-interest or from politically false ideas is ready to kill, but not die.
        Very true noticed.
    2. Akvadra
      Akvadra 17 May 2014 17: 26
      +15
      It is like a tsunami in the ocean. The sea seems to be calm, even rolled back. And on the horizon, the irrepressible, merciless, monstrously powerful wall of cleansing water is approaching inexorably. There is no power that can stand before her! The shore will be clean!
      Our cause is just! We will win !!'
      1. zanoza
        zanoza 17 May 2014 18: 34
        +10
        In the near future, these "mad Kiev dogs" will not calm down.
        What is done with rabid dogs is known.
        The more they are sent to the churchyard, the sooner it will reach them that competing with the people is a losing affair.
        Hands off Donbass!
    3. nikolaev
      nikolaev 17 May 2014 22: 56
      +3
      7777
      Message from Igor Strelkov
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIHdrSm6jrU#t=21
    4. Hunghuz
      Hunghuz 18 May 2014 15: 19
      +3
      hi This Maidan will last for several years ..........))))) as in Yugoslavia and Egypt)
    5. gridasov
      gridasov 18 May 2014 23: 34
      +1
      What needs to be done to defeat the enemy? NEED to take him into allies. In this case, the creation of a third veiled force is possible. Those whom the Russians call Bandera and will remain so forever. Eradicating ideological foundations is impossible. But knowing the urgent problems of this part of the people of Ukraine, their useful forces can be very effectively used. It is necessary to force Western Ukraine to self-determination and begin to cooperate and invest in their economy with responsible leadership. There are many obvious advantages for each side.
    6. ispaniard
      ispaniard 19 May 2014 13: 01
      0
      Well done Anatoly Alexandrovich! Read and bastard again from our Wasserman wink Intellect for bawling patriotism for cosmopolitanism! -That's his credo! More than two thousand years ago, Archimedes "threw nishtyaks" to the Romans, who besieged his native Syracuse ... Now our Wasserman will ask Banderlog in full for his native burnt Odessa am
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  2. Roman1970
    Roman1970 17 May 2014 14: 59
    +12
    I think when the East copes with its problems, it certainly will want to help the South. But whether this help is needed, they must decide in Odessa ...
    1. smile
      smile 17 May 2014 15: 07
      +20
      Roman1970
      Yes, something is not yet visible particular prospects for the expulsion of bandarlogs from Odessa. And if they themselves can’t organize normal resistance to the junta, forces and means, and it’s unlikely that there will simply be enough banal money from Lugansk and Donetsk to restore order there. No one South will liberate instead of its population. And there are no more supporters of the junta there as an example to the East ... Is it that later, when hunger begins on the remnants of Ukraine, they will take up the mind ...
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 17 May 2014 15: 25
        +17
        Quote: smile
        Yes, something is not yet visible particular prospects for the expulsion of bandarlogs from Odessa.

        In Odessa, in due time we lost time. And then part of the people was intimidated, the most active were killed or arrested. Now it’s hard for them to get up on their own, but if you help and push a little, then the situation can be changed. But it’s hard for them now, the preponderance of active forces is clearly in favor of banderlogs ...
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 17 May 2014 16: 11
        +43
        Quote: smile
        Yes, something is not yet visible particular prospects for the expulsion of bandarlogs from Odessa.

        Greetings!
        Judging by the chronology, everything is still ahead ...
        The evolution of resistance to the face, though not yet universally what

        Clickable Image
        1. anfil
          anfil 17 May 2014 18: 36
          +5
          ... Judging by the chronology, everything is still ahead ...
          The evolution of resistance to the face, though not yet universally

          Civil war in Ukraine. 2012 Prediction of the Year

          A tough scenario of the prophecy of the civil war in Ukraine, a politician from Lugansk.
          The coup in Kiev, the seizure of power by supporters of the West ... War. Will this forecast come true? Through 2-3 years will be seen
  3. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 17 May 2014 15: 00
    +11
    And Wasserman is always right! We will live, see.
    1. vsoltan
      vsoltan 17 May 2014 15: 19
      +14
      Wasserman is a wonderful clever .... but the specific article is somewhat weak. A little analysis, more emotional component. I’m used to another Wasserman - with powerful analytical reviews and accurate forecasts.
    2. anfil
      anfil 17 May 2014 18: 51
      +11
      Anatoly Wasserman - Open Text 16.05.2014
  4. iConst
    iConst 17 May 2014 15: 01
    +13
    Now the summer is very helpful for the summer. The striker in this case is always the loser: from two meters you will not see. If the operation occurred in the winter, then the aggressor would have an advantage in the form of aviation.

    I wish the southeast (one east? - the south has calmed down?) To solve the problems before the fall.
    1. v245721
      v245721 17 May 2014 17: 17
      +6
      and she is this aircraft ????? and MANPADS have not been canceled. melee aviation is not effective. in general, death to the fascists both on earth and in heaven
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      2. yehat
        yehat 20 May 2014 10: 19
        0
        kamikaze have proven their effectiveness in close combat! ;)
    2. northern
      northern 17 May 2014 17: 54
      +4
      Do not forget that General Frost has always fought on our side
    3. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 17 May 2014 19: 38
      +2
      Started ATO with bare trees, and so what?
  5. mig31
    mig31 17 May 2014 15: 03
    +2
    Everyone knows best, but help from us should be at the level and adequate ...
  6. regsSSSR
    regsSSSR 17 May 2014 15: 06
    +42

    Storms are still coming. Causes of calm in the emerging Novorossia
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 17 May 2014 19: 40
      0
      Why is it accepted only in Slavyansk.
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 19 May 2014 08: 55
        +2
        Yes, because TAM is the cutting edge. shooters said: they come, they ask for money and they say, “I'm home, there I will defend the Donbass,”
  7. morpogr
    morpogr 17 May 2014 15: 06
    +4
    Now only forward to the creation of a full-fledged republic.
  8. 222222
    222222 17 May 2014 15: 07
    +19
    The southeast is like a seething cauldron, standing on a fire, heated to 120 degrees with the top closed. Steam breaks the walls in all places. The authorities are trying to shut them up, but .. further exacerbating the situation .. The referendum opened the lid and let the steam in .. here and there was a temporary lull ..
    ..filling kerosene into a fire and plugging holes in a boiling cauldron lead to a boiler explosion .. No politics .. only physics ..
    1. vsoltan
      vsoltan 17 May 2014 15: 21
      +7
      You say the same as Wasserman - but more succinctly, accurately and figuratively. Thank. Plus
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  9. Giant thought
    Giant thought 17 May 2014 15: 09
    +14
    The moral superiority of self-defense units over the Maidan army is enormous, this will be one of the factors that led to the victory of the people of the DPR and LPR. We wish the fighters of New Russia good luck, victories and good help from Russia.
  10. Vorodis_vA
    Vorodis_vA 17 May 2014 15: 10
    +2
    it all depends on where the legs grow, if from Russia, then everything will become clear after the elections, questions with NATO, gas supplies, the status of the Russian language, decentralization of power, as well as the reaction of the West
  11. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 17 May 2014 15: 11
    +3
    The junta has calmed down, and constant shelling is a confirmation. The guards have to imitate military operations, and artillery is best for this!
    And it can be explained, on the one hand you don’t want to die for tales, on the other, the commanders are preparing for the elections, in the sense of bayonets they are safe for internal showdowns!
  12. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 17 May 2014 15: 15
    +3
    Well, there are people like Anatoly! Simple and easy to understand. Arranged on shelves.
  13. sv68
    sv68 17 May 2014 15: 17
    +2
    it’s bad that Odessa does not follow in the footsteps of Donetsk, and I hope that it’s not very likely, but the probability that other regions will take up their minds and weapons with the goal of moving away from Ukraine into the direction of complete independence
    1. svp67
      svp67 17 May 2014 17: 23
      +4
      Quote: sv68
      it’s bad that Odessa does not follow in the footsteps of Donetsk, and I hope that it’s not very likely, but the probability that other regions will take up their minds and weapons with the goal of moving away from Ukraine into the direction of complete independence

      To do this, it is necessary to find a way to "take out of the game" Kolomoisky, now he is the key figure on which the semblance of a "new lord" is held, or rather he keeps "his Gauleiism" under control ...
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 17 May 2014 17: 28
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        To do this, you need to find a way to "take out of the game" Kolomoisky

        They write that the May 2 setup was done by the drug lords of Odessa who considered that if the Russian government comes to the drug business, the seams!
        1. svp67
          svp67 17 May 2014 17: 51
          +4
          Quote: Sid.74
          They write that the May 2 setup was done by the drug lords of Odessa who considered that if the Russian government comes to the drug business, the seams!
          Here, apparently, several factors converged, but the fact that Kolomoisky begged for the governor of the Odessa region for “his man” from the “new lord” in exchange for guarantees that order would be “put in order” there is no longer a secret. But, and if he is also friends with "foolishness" ... I will not be surprised. At such a time, such people feel "like a fish in water" and, most importantly, no one will punish him, and even then, look and the title - the savior of the fatherland will stick, but I think that soon he will go back into the shadows, he is unlikely will go to conflict with Poroshenko - read with the United States ...
  14. Iskander Khan
    Iskander Khan 17 May 2014 15: 20
    +3
    I think you should not escalate until the presidential election. This will allow to accumulate strength and prepare people with minimal losses for the militias. And when the elections are held, Kiev will not be in the East at all, and maybe not in the South. The army will leave or scatter, and the Natsiks will enter the war of all against all, and primarily among themselves. Only one real force will remain - Benya. Here it is worth concentrating.
  15. Nataliya
    Nataliya 17 May 2014 15: 25
    +9
    "And then, I hope, the east will find a way to support the liberation of my native south."

    And the south itself? Sitting quietly in their own burrow and waiting for the "adult and formidable uncle" to come and punish the "naughty kids" that the southerners themselves cannot or do not want to deal with? Maintain inaction? Even the terrible murder in the House of Trade Unions did not stir up the south, didn’t make people muster the courage to defend themselves. Actually, this is called "raking in the heat with someone else's hands", that is - let others fight (and die) for our peace of mind, and we will wait on the sidelines. It doesn't look very nice somehow.
    Or I don’t understand something ...
  16. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 17 May 2014 15: 26
    +3
    I think that on May 25th there will be no elections, although they are not legitimate anyway. But the SS faces have to pack their bags, I think it’s unlikely that anyone will feel sorry for them, but it’s not sad to talk about it, but blood will still be shed in large numbers and the lions will be left behind that there are still some farms that don’t be, I’ll take something from the Poles, Germans from Hungary, something like that!
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 17 May 2014 15: 46
      +5
      Quote: kod3001
      I think May 25 is not what elections will not be,

      The elections will be with the EU and amers, recognize them. For them, the appearance of legitimation of the junta is now very important. But then, the question is ...
      Then the state of emergency can introduce and engage heavy weapons. And then a really serious confrontation may begin.
      1. kodxnumx
        kodxnumx 17 May 2014 17: 36
        +1
        I think all such a voriant lose in their head, this is the worst option, so that this election does not go to such an extreme and will not happen! I think not only the people of the South-East are interested in this.
      2. SHURAVI
        SHURAVI 19 May 2014 12: 28
        0
        I completely agree! I wanted to write about it myself. With the approval of the junta, NATO aviation may start bombing the South-East, as in Yugoslavia, as well as under pressure from the United States, a contingent of "peacekeeping" forces was introduced, consisting mainly of units from Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and of course Poland, i.e. those states where anti-Russian sentiments are strong. Russia will not even be asked! What will happen after that is difficult to predict.
  17. hrych
    hrych 17 May 2014 15: 34
    +27
    Everyone is waiting for what the GDP will say, but he is silent and this is scary, down-jones is falling, oil is growing, but he is silent, last time he was also silent for a long time, then he received a parade in Crimea. He is silent, but the bill for 3,5 lard for gas has been presented, but in fact not ukram, but the EU. Here Kiev (we mean Brussels) is ready to give three hundred each, but the depressed Miller (with his mouth, but someone else's mind) said: "Bargaining is not appropriate here ... in the evening money, in the morning chairs, but from June 1, money in advance." Already, Merkel said, but he is still silent, this GDP ...
    1. Shur
      Shur 19 May 2014 01: 54
      0
      Silence is gold.
  18. mamont5
    mamont5 17 May 2014 15: 35
    +8
    New Russia, a chronicle on the morning of May 17

    "Slavyansk. At five in the morning, the punitive continued shelling the surroundings of Slavyansk from heavy artillery from Mount Karachun ...
    Donetsk. According to incoming information in Donetsk, the DPR forces occupied the Headquarters of the Eastern Operational Union of the National Guard of Ukraine. “After a short shootout and subsequent negotiations, the fighters of the National Guard were expelled from the building. According to preliminary data, the DPR got about 200 assault rifles, ”according to sources.
    Lugansk region. The head of the Lugansk People’s Republic, Valery Bolotov, who was recently wounded during an attempt by a sniper, was beaten off by LNR fighters from border guards who detained him ...
    Donetsk republic. According to media reports, the DPR intends to open the border with Russia tomorrow, in order to avoid the seizure of outposts by the DPR assets and Donbass Popular Militia fighters, by removing border guards subordinate from the junta.
    Odessa. According to local media reports, in order to neutralize popular protest, the Security Service of Ukraine intends to detain about 50 resistance activists "due to involvement in the events of May 2 in Odessa."
    Khartsizsk. Polite masked people asked to write a letter of resignation of the deputy mayor of the city of Khartsyzsk (Donetsk region) Sergey Shupik.
    Citizens accused him of corruption, extorting money “for any signature,” demanding “gifts, alcohol” from entrepreneurs ...
    http://warfiles.ru/show-56772-novorossiya-hronika-na-utro-17-maya.html
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 17 May 2014 16: 01
      +8
      Quote: mamont5
      "Slavyansk. At five in the morning, the punitive forces continued shelling the outskirts of Slavyansk from heavy artillery from Mount Karachun ...


      Poor "armored train", how many have already been hammering it ...
      1. mamont5
        mamont5 17 May 2014 17: 25
        +2
        Quote: Russ69
        Poor "armored train", how many have already been hammering it ...


        All at least some purpose. And if you declare that evil terrorists are hiding there, then for your fucking .. you can get a reward. smile
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 17 May 2014 18: 33
        +2
        It was necessary to fill the cars with concrete blocks. Let the ammunition squander. Only here the bastards do not allow the population to sleep.
  19. Ygorez
    Ygorez 17 May 2014 15: 48
    +5
    I think the South is now looking at whose take it, they themselves do not want to take risks. If the junta-dead are forgotten, if Donetsk - they will angrily demand retaliation, but they themselves will not move
  20. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 17 May 2014 15: 50
    +1
    Yes, order everything from the banderlog, don’t send them! There they are dear.
  21. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 17 May 2014 15: 50
    +2
    In the war, the people of the republics are obliged to defeat the guardsmen of Kiev, but these are just flowers, the main concerns ahead, this is the state system; finances, banks, money, borders and all everyday life. The main problem will be with money.
  22. Serge56
    Serge56 17 May 2014 15: 54
    +2
    Now I can’t read or hear anywhere. Maybe someone knows? - Do money from factories and enterprises continue to go to Kiev and the West to the owners of these enterprises?
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 17 May 2014 16: 04
      +2
      Quote: Serge56
      Now I can’t read or hear anywhere. Maybe someone knows? - Do money from factories and enterprises continue to go to Kiev and the West to the owners of these enterprises?

      They are trying to take control and stop deductions to Kiev. But this is not so easy to do, especially immediately.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 17 May 2014 18: 29
        +2
        The money goes to the accounts of the person who concluded the contract for the supply of products.
        1. Russ69
          Russ69 17 May 2014 19: 24
          0
          Quote: Lelek
          The money goes to the accounts of the person who concluded the contract for the supply of products.

          The conversation is not about transfers under contracts. And about deductions to the state budget, here it must be left in place. At the same time, one should not forget that it will be necessary to assume obligations on pensions, salaries of state employees and others.
  23. mnbv199
    mnbv199 17 May 2014 16: 00
    +74
    The image of the T-34 tank, made from photographs of veterans.
    1. Army1
      Army1 17 May 2014 16: 06
      +10
      Quote: mnbv199
      The image of the T-34 tank, made from photographs of veterans.

      Very Impressed ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    2. Horst78
      Horst78 17 May 2014 18: 48
      +6
      AFIGHET belay +1000000
    3. northern
      northern 17 May 2014 20: 07
      +5
      Worthy and creative attitude to memory.
      Nizhny Novgorod Kremlin
    4. controller
      controller 18 May 2014 23: 29
      0
      Stunned ++++ This is where?
      1. Mobidic
        Mobidic 18 May 2014 23: 57
        +4
        Nizhny Novgorod Kremlin. Photo from the day of May 9th. Here's another
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  24. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 17 May 2014 16: 02
    +8
    It is already necessary to establish its border with Russia Donbass. Send border lads home. That there were no problems with supply ...
  25. naGua
    naGua 17 May 2014 16: 04
    +3
    Anatoly Wasserman possesses visionary abilities. True, without any mysticism. Just an analysis of the situation + the ability to draw the right conclusions. Hope it will be exactly as he says.
  26. Anisim1977
    Anisim1977 17 May 2014 16: 09
    +1
    I think Novorossia is building up strength and transferring weapons - for the simultaneous start of the third wave. hi
  27. Nataliya
    Nataliya 17 May 2014 16: 12
    +10
    Quote: hrych
    Everyone is waiting for what the GDP will say, but he is silent and this is scary, down-jones is falling, oil is growing, but he is silent, last time he was also silent for a long time, then he received a parade in Crimea. He is silent, but the bill for 3,5 lard for gas has been presented, but in fact not ukram, but the EU. Here Kiev (we mean Brussels) is ready to give three hundred each, but the depressed Miller (with his mouth, but someone else's mind) said: "Bargaining is not appropriate here ... in the evening money, in the morning chairs, but from June 1, money in advance." Already, Merkel said, but he is still silent, this GDP ...


    Fussy hysteria
    America was coming.
    And she scared Russia, scared herself.
    And shaking my sanctions
    Ritual dances
    Mr. Obama danced in the White House.

    Howled Europe
    Now in the heat, then in a chill.
    Faithful to the Serf servants is no other way.
    But Russia was silent
    I didn’t ask for anything.
    And such silence is nothing to you!

    PS: sorry for some clumsiness, this is impromptu ...)
  28. marder4
    marder4 17 May 2014 16: 25
    +1
    it would be faster if their whistle would end ...
  29. Black
    Black 17 May 2014 16: 25
    +3
    SE will have to work harder than rooster Banderlog- to establish a peaceful life ... And here, either with Russia, or go to the Carpathians. Being an "unrecognized" republic is hungry .... So, gain strength, guys. Crush the reptile in the den.
  30. Siberian2183
    Siberian2183 17 May 2014 16: 28
    +3
    The image of the T-34 tank, made from photographs of veterans.
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/782/wlzp545.jpg
    well done done
  31. Agent 008
    Agent 008 17 May 2014 16: 34
    +4
    The DPR and the LGR cannot be lost, otherwise the militants will arrange such a massacre that the "Odessa Inquisitors" did not even stand nearby ...
    1. Irokez
      Irokez 17 May 2014 22: 11
      +6
      Quote: Agent 008
      The DPR and LGR cannot be lost, otherwise the militants will arrange such a massacre that the "Odessa Inquisitors" did not even stand nearby.

      Nothing we have a decent answer. We will not die alive, Babai is with us.
  32. Snoop
    Snoop 17 May 2014 16: 35
    +4
    Wasserman, as usual, looks at the root :)
    With the victory of the Russian team! Looks energized on the Stalin line, where they were taken on an excursion! soldier
  33. dFG
    dFG 17 May 2014 16: 35
    +3
    well, with mercenaries it’s always been such a story: they come to earn money and not die, so when they lose, people usually choose life and not money)) I wonder why the militias still have one Nona from serious equipment? in the east there are no military units with heavy equipment ??
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 17 May 2014 16: 53
      +3
      Quote: dfg
      in the east there are no military units with heavy equipment ??

      Trying to solve the transfer peacefully, why immediately fight. first they’ll sort it out in the center, then they’ll go on, they’ll still get the equipment. The army is not actively acting yet, and there is no need to take active military action against it. Do not forget that a lot of equipment was withdrawn, fearing the capture of militias ...
  34. jovanni
    jovanni 17 May 2014 16: 49
    +8
    "But practically everyone who fights out of self-interest or politically false beliefs is ready to kill, but not die."
    A WILL!
  35. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 17 May 2014 16: 58
    +3
    Well, let's start with the fact that not everything is so simple in this world.
    Let us honestly admit to ourselves that the majority of Ukrainians want the integrity of their country and do not want to be independent states or run headlong into Russia.
    If the southeast and the south wanted it, they would have fled for a long time, spitting on everything, as the Crimea did. It has nothing to do with the absence of the status of a republic, you understand that it was possible to ask several questions at once at a referendum, like in Crimea, "do you want independence?" and "do you want to go to Russia?" This was not all!
    The bulk of Ukrainians i.e. about 80% are now looking at all this with bewilderment, clearly expressing their hatred of the newly elected authorities, another 10% of fascist fanatics run it all, including right sector, national guard, etc. scum, and another 10% of the same radically pro-Russian people. ALL!
    The rest is all a tambourine, but they don’t want to see this gangster possess, but they also don’t want and are in no hurry to join Russia. Who just said that the only panacea is joining the Russian Federation? Belarus, Kazakhstan and many others live.
    Donbas now has a different task: to prevent a split in the country, organize resistance and first clean out its territories, and then lead the liberation of all Ukraine. Bendera is naturally at a loss. Therefore, they procrastinate, gain strength, prepare for a large-scale offensive, and not sweep the field.
    I hope so anyway.
    1. nikkam2013
      nikkam2013 19 May 2014 12: 00
      0
      Who ever said that the only panacea is joining the Russian Federation?
      << No need to enter. A. Wasserman originally suggested using the figure of the legitimate President of Ukraine and her commander-in-chief V. Yanukovych. Donetsk and Luhansk people's republics are united into a single State-Novorossia, stepping on their own throat, invite V. Yanukovych to temporarily use his duty in the name of atonement for his sins. He declares a state of emergency in connection with the coup d'etat by the Nazis-Bandera, declares the complete subordination of all authorities to himself, concludes a military-political alliance with the Russian Federation, officially requests military assistance and begins liberation from foreign invaders. The presence of foreign citizens fighting with the population is an established fact. Everything is legal. After the liberation of the entire territory of Ukraine from the invaders and Bandera's supporters, a referendum is held on federalization in other regions of Ukraine who wish this, the creation of a new Constitution, the election on a legal basis of the President and the establishment of a completely different economic and political way of life of the country on the basis of common sense and justice.
  36. Cristall
    Cristall 17 May 2014 17: 04
    +9
    hmm ... Opinion of the south ... And what kind of South? Earlier south it was Crimea, Kherson, Nikolaev, Odessa region
    Now, what is the final balance of the entire Ukrainian south represents Odessa?
    It is the farthest away from the theater of action. You are writing here about what was not affected on May 2 .. And how it did! Before that, we were aloof from everyone - from the maidan Kiev, from the rebellious Donbass, even from the Crimea, far enough away through several regions and 8 hours on the railway ... but now Ukraine reminded Odessa that it will not stay away and will receive its portion " revolution "
    Yes, I will not hide many Odessans rejoiced that they are exactly Odessans-international, do not admit something like that in Ukraine, that is, "khataskraynist", but having their own opinion - now all this is rather sad.
    There is an opinion that Ukrainians will come to their senses from hunger ... Well, I can say that Odessa and Kiev hold out the most (the second capital is the second at the expense of the sea), then they do not have to think that hunger will get to the brain. At least not quickly.
    In addition, Odessa can not be responsible for the entire region - and there are so many lives on the shovel of nationalities .. yes, and in the city too ..
    In general, Odessa is that special case when nothing is clear and incomprehensible to anyone.
    Moreover, on May 2, they didn’t just kill people ... they smashed the core of Anti-Maidan, putting the blame on them, in addition arrested and took all the leaders to Kiev ... Their fate is unknown. And in every way the authorities hush her up. In addition, what to do with Odessa, Kiev does not know, but it knows clearly what needs to be held at any cost ... ANY.
    And we don’t even have a measure! Who and what will demand from the local authorities if we do not even have an elective measure - all appointees! Therefore, you first need to choose a person .. God forbid, not Hurwitz ... although they say that Trukhanov is a favorite (Euro-Maidan people do not like him - they think that he is a Russian bandit)
    Local version May 2
    http://kp.ua/politics/452654-my-znaem-kto-pozval-odessytov-v-dom-profsouizov-y-p
    ochemu-ony-pohybly
    VERSIONS
    1. "Right Sector"
    The leader of the Yugo-Vostok movement Oleg Tsarev called the incident "a monstrous crime committed by neo-Nazis from the Right Sector." side door and burst into the House of Trade Unions when the fire broke out, and they say they started a massacre.
    2. Provocateurs
    In other videos that have flooded the Internet, it can be seen that while fire is burning on the ground floor of the House of Trade Unions, a group of young men throws Molotov cocktails and stones down from the roof of the building. How did they get there and why didn’t others find salvation on the roof?
    Many users of social networks believe that provocateurs who knew the escape route and went on the killings carried away people from Kulikov’s fields to the building.
    3. Mysterious special forces
    "It's just that angry thugs cannot kill like that, a newcomer would vomit from such a picture. This is the work of a professional special forces, who received the task of creating a local Armageddon," one of the users of social networks shares his thoughts. In his opinion, the scenario of confrontation between supporters and opponents of the Maidan was invented in advance. Mysterious killers hid in the House of Trade Unions and were fully armed to await the victims
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 17 May 2014 17: 21
      +1
      Quote: Cristall
      In general, Odessa is that special case.

      Greetings! hi

      The Batkivshchyna party announces the arson in Odessa of the headquarters of the presidential candidate Yulia Tymoshenko, who is the party leader.

      "On the night of May 17, the premises of Yulia Timoshenko's campaign headquarters in the Suvorovsky district of Odessa burned. The intruders broke a window on the back of the building and threw a Molotov cocktail into the room," the party said on Saturday.

      According to the message, the security guard, who was at the office at that time, heard the sound of broken glass and, seeing the flame, promptly called the firefighters. The fire was localized and extinguished - only one office room burned out. According to preliminary data, no victims.

      "The office is located on the first floor of a nine-storey residential building, so the arson of the headquarters' premises has created a threat to the lives of hundreds of residents," the Batkivshchyna statement says.

      The party notes that this is the second attempt to attack the headquarters - for the first time the unknown, acting in the same way, tried to set fire to the same building three weeks ago.


      PR ali how?
  37. standre
    standre 17 May 2014 17: 07
    +2
    This day will come very soon!
  38. pts-m
    pts-m 17 May 2014 17: 13
    +1
    Yes, the West say that they send their wounded Natsik to the organs. There they are dear !!!
  39. Russ69
    Russ69 17 May 2014 17: 17
    +1
    Is the DNR in a hurry, with such a request ...

    The self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic in the near future will ask Russia to include it in the Russian Federation, the OstroVa news agency reports with reference to the Prime Minister of the DPR, Alexander Boroday.

    Borodai assured that Russia would certainly address such a request, and officially it could be prepared in the very near future. “We will all do this in a very hasty manner,” said Borodai. In addition, according to the Prime Minister, the DPR intends to ask Moscow to establish diplomatic relations with the republic.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 17 May 2014 18: 25
      +3
      Well, inclusion in the Russian Federation, this is unlikely; but recognition, deep. a relationship and mutual assistance agreement is real.
  40. urik77
    urik77 17 May 2014 17: 17
    +7
    Yes, and an armored train that is on the siding !!! Tattered but standing as it was, not a centimeter to the side !!! yes
    [/ Quote]
    So the cars are welded to the rails, tight! laughing
    http://takie.org/news/khokhly_dolbjat/2014-05-17-10483
  41. Arh
    Arh 17 May 2014 17: 22
    +4
    The calm before the storm and hit the thunder and burn the Nazis Singe Dogs !!!
  42. jktu66
    jktu66 17 May 2014 17: 27
    +1
    Most likely, in the near future the calm will be replaced by the complete liberation of the east of Ukraine from these criminals. And then, I hope the east will find a way to support the liberation of my native south.
    Well done, Wasserman, pleased with the article!
  43. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 17 May 2014 17: 27
    +2
    There is information here, it seems that the Ukrainian junta has begun evolution in the opposite direction ... - closer to Obamych!
    Moscow. 16th of May. INTERFAX.RU - The General Prosecutor's Office of Ukraine has recognized the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk "people's republics" as terrorist organizations, the ministry's press service reported on Friday.
    First Deputy Prosecutor General of Ukraine Mykola Golomsha noted that, thus, the department confirms the words of the Minister of Justice Pavel Petrenko that the two so-called "people's republics" created in Donetsk and Luhansk regions are two terrorist organizations that "have a clear hierarchy , financing and arms supply channels. "
    See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/world/376587

    I saw a lot, I heard a lot, I know a lot. But for an educated state to create a nation that people voted for - just like a STATE. call a terrorist organization? fool This is something new!
  44. X Y Z
    X Y Z 17 May 2014 17: 28
    +1
    We need to think already in the future - what to do next, how to live, how to organize life support processes. We need a clear and concise program, not a passive follow-up. It's time to conduct sane diplomacy and pass laws. It is necessary to win not only in the military sphere, but also in the diplomatic, economic, financial, etc. And this is perhaps an even more difficult task.
  45. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 17 May 2014 17: 43
    +3
    The ABC of War. If you could not capture right away, in a snap. If the attacker was thrown "zvizduly" during the raid. All! Drain the water, dry the oars. There is a long siege, positional battles. Trenches, fortified areas, bunkers, bunkers, total control of communications, field gendarmerie, fight against partisans. Stretching of forces and a slow decrease due to "natural wear and tear and small, but constant combat losses." Resources will be required DOFIGA. Is the junta ready to fight "trench warfare"? Doubtful.
    1. northern
      northern 17 May 2014 17: 58
      +1
      You're right, the blitzkrieg didn’t work out for them. And all further will require completely different efforts and other money (and then the toad will come)
  46. doc62
    doc62 17 May 2014 17: 51
    +1
    it’s easy to learn how to kill, but to die yourself .... you need to be for something meaningful or be frostbitten on your head
  47. northern
    northern 17 May 2014 17: 56
    0
    A soldier fighting for his homeland was always a hundred times stronger than any conqueror.
  48. Russ69
    Russ69 17 May 2014 17: 59
    +2
    Block post dill near Slavyansk, ambulances only rush ...
    1. dkflbvbh
      dkflbvbh 17 May 2014 20: 45
      0
      Damn, these are different places of shooting.
  49. PRN
    PRN 17 May 2014 18: 10
    +5
    Anatoly Alexandrovich is a great analyst. And in New Russia, events will develop intensively after the staging of the elections of the so-called president of Ukraine. I do not want this
  50. Lelek
    Lelek 17 May 2014 18: 19
    +4
    You should not flatter yourself and draw sugar pictures of the future, just as you should not engage in hating. The junta, with the stubbornness of a maniac, is striving for elections in order to secure the legislative right (which it does not currently have) to call on external forces to suppress "separatism" and eliminate dissidents. How effective this is is not known, but the southeast needs to be fully prepared for this, and it needs to start with the elimination of power structures and military units subordinate to Kiev on its territory. This is a huge job and will take a lot of time and military force. soldier