Ukraine asks Russia for 15 billions of dollars in debt

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According to the "RT in Russian", a meeting of the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development was held on Thursday, at which the Minister of Finance of Ukraine, Alexander Shlapak, spoke, saying that Ukraine is ready to return to the idea of ​​borrowing billions of dollars from 15 from the Russian Federation.

“When it came to our gas conflict, we suggested, let's go back to the idea of ​​15 billions, let's go back to normal cooperation. Pay us a tranche of 2 billion, as promised in January, we will immediately pay this money for gas debt. But, unfortunately, did not receive such an agreement, ”said the Minister.

It is worth recalling that December 17 of 2013 of the year Russian President Vladimir Putin announced Russia's intention to place in Ukrainian securities 15 billions from the National Welfare Fund.
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    1. Hon
      +144
      16 May 2014 09: 33
      Not well, it's even by the standards of Ukraine arrogance)))
      1. GDP
        +130
        16 May 2014 09: 37
        Audacity second happiness! laughing
        And with this money, as I understand it, they will arm the National Guard so that they shoot Russians and pay pensions to SS and UPA veterans ?!
        Maybe it is better for New Russia to buy this weapon and medicine? In this case, at least money will go to a holy cause ...
        1. +65
          16 May 2014 09: 39
          you can give, but ......... from you-the recognition of New Russia, the withdrawal of troops, the disarmament of all radicals and the national guard ....... then we’ll think about it, otherwise many of you who want to suck a paw off a bear
          1. Ataman
            +63
            16 May 2014 09: 55
            When all debts are repaid, then Russia will return to the idea of ​​normal cooperation.
            1. +18
              16 May 2014 10: 21
              Quote: Ataman
              When all debts are repaid, then Russia will return to the idea of ​​normal cooperation.

              The problem with the Ukrainian debt is as much economic as political.
              To lend on bread to a neighbor who spat in your face, and even declared that he would give you the old debt out of this money? Naturally, I will not give money, and the reason for this will most likely be a spit, and not the financial insolvency of a neighbor.
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              2. Ujin61
                +10
                16 May 2014 11: 47
                Sanctions against Urcoain need to be introduced and not given in debt, all the more so.
            2. +5
              16 May 2014 10: 24
              Quote: Ataman
              When all debts are repaid, then Russia will return to the idea of ​​normal cooperation.
              I think the debts do not bother anyone, they are hindered by insolent Badera and Russophobes who still hope that Russia will finance the anti-Russian government and even the anti-Ukrainian one.
            3. +15
              16 May 2014 10: 56
              Quote: Ataman
              Ataman Today, 09:55 ↑ New
              When all debts are repaid, then Russia will return to the idea of ​​normal cooperation.

              It was necessary on the Maidan "to filter the bazaar" Ish yelled "Who doesn’t jump that moska.l." and also "moska.l.yaku to gilyaku" and now Will you borrow us please ... It's like pooping at someone else's door ... calling the apartment ... and ... asking for a piece of paper.
          2. +64
            16 May 2014 10: 11
            strannik595 (2) RU "can be given, but ... from you - the recognition of Novorossiya, the withdrawal of troops,"
            ==================================================
            You would at least think what you are talking about! What "CAN I GIVE" are we talking about? And most importantly - WHOM TO GIVE! With this JUNTA today it is necessary to stop all NEGOTIATIONS, it deserves only DESTRUCTION! Kiev bandits cut off the water to Crimea, do not want to pay debts on GAS, do all sorts of possible PAKOSTI and also want Russia to give them MONEY for temporary use, that is, give them FREE OF CHARGE ?! What is it - AS NOT SUPER IMPRESSION! Today I do not really understand the position of Russia, who is it going to support in "Ukraine" KHUNTU or South-East? One gets the impression that a little more and Moscow will slide down to RECOGNITION of this Kiev MRA.ZI.
            1. +5
              16 May 2014 10: 26
              Do not worry so. Until normal elections in Ukraine take place. Until they choose an adequate and (no longer dreaming of a pro-Russian) neutral-minded and reasonable president, no one will give anyone any money. Not a loan or a present. What GDP does chtol have no head? I think there is, and with brains ....
              1. 0
                18 May 2014 03: 43
                Do not flatter yourself ... The fate of Ukraine is unenviable ... When they became independent, it all ended in disaster ... since ancient times ...
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            3. +4
              16 May 2014 10: 43
              Quote: alexdol
              Today I do not really understand the position of Russia, who is it going to support in "Ukraine" KHUNTU or South-East?

              I also don’t understand what is happening in the southeast. There are so many contradictory statements that my head is spinning ... It’s with the leaders of the DPR.
              And about the junta ... The fact is that all this junta, even with a complete lack of money in Ukraine, will eat black caviar ... Everyone has sea money. And how ordinary people? After all, there are many quite loyal old people in the center and in the west , and just people who care less about this whole whistle ...
              How many do not shout, but the question is still acute. Ukraine will not survive the new famine ...
          3. Artist
            +5
            16 May 2014 10: 11
            Let the bear not suck on a paw, but something else ...
          4. +21
            16 May 2014 10: 26
            you can give, but ......... from you-the recognition of New Russia, the withdrawal of troops, the disarmament of all radicals and the national guard ....... then we’ll think about it, otherwise many of you who want to suck a paw off a bear
            A little bit wrong. From Ukraine:
            1. Return to the February agreement.
            2. The trial of all those responsible for the slaughter throughout Ukraine. With the confiscation of the fund affected by the putsch. At the same time, publicly introduce a moratorium on the NON-USE of the death penalty for the most serious crimes.
            3. Criminal punishment for the propaganda of fascism and any manifestation of incitement to hatred. Naturally, at the same time, unconditional and unconditional disarmament of extremist and unconstitutional armed groups and the dissolution of organizations.
            4. Criminal investigation of the Maidan, including sources of funding.
            5. Development and implementation (under the supervision of a public committee from the Southeast) of the state program for the payment of compensation to the victims of the putsch and subsequent repression of the junta.
            6. Official recognition of the results of referenda of Crimea and regions.
            7. Immediate repayment of debt to Russia by property, industrial enterprises and territory (Odessa region), taking into account all interest and moral damage.
            8. Denunciation of all legislative acts and agreements adopted during the period from the moment of the overthrow of a legally elected government.
            Only after this, it is possible to consider the fundamental possibility of speaking for new grandmothers.
            1. +3
              16 May 2014 10: 45
              Quote: abrakadabre
              A little bit wrong.

              good A more or less realistic plan. For the initial period, it is quite adequate and preserves the possibility of ceasing firing ...
              1. +4
                16 May 2014 10: 58
                More or less but realistic plan.
                It is a pity that he will not be voiced. And I would like to see the reaction of the world community and listen to their squeals after the publication of such a plan. I even agree to listen to comments from the mummy of Alekseyeva or Baba Lera under the beer. Even Makarevich would give the floor ... for three minutes - the rules ...
                wassat
                1. +1
                  16 May 2014 12: 08
                  Quote: abrakadabre
                  It is a pity that he will not be voiced.

                  I don’t think that you are right. I have repeatedly met the thoughts expressed here by one of the authors or commentators, in the speeches of leading political scientists and even large enough officials. The power of online publications is that there are a lot of thoughts, a lot of water is written, a lot of spam is thrown in. But if a person with a head, you can always separate the grain from the chaff fellow
                  1. 0
                    16 May 2014 12: 56
                    I don’t think you are right.
                    Unfortunately, I'm right. Political scientists and commentators can, before calluses in the language, voice the list of conditions that I propose. But they are not our Foreign Ministry. And Vladimir Vladimirovich will not pronounce these points in an official statement.
                    I understand that my option is an ultimatum. And not only Ukraine itself. Beautiful and fair, and therefore utopian. For in our realities, such a scale of justice is very rare (like Nuremberg or the banner over the Reichstag).
                    1. 0
                      16 May 2014 14: 32
                      Quote: abrakadabre
                      I understand that my option is an ultimatum.

                      Yes, this is not an ultimatum! And the conditions for complete surrender are akin to the one signed in Potsdam in 1945 by the High Contracting Parties! soldier
                      1. 0
                        16 May 2014 16: 35
                        Yes, this is not an ultimatum! And the conditions for complete surrender are akin to the one signed in Potsdam in 1945
                        If this concerned only Ukraine itself, then these are clauses of the act of unconditional surrender. But we still have parties involved. Given them, it is rather an ultimatum.
            2. +3
              16 May 2014 11: 02
              Very funny ... And who of the current government of Ukraine will do this? This is their death sentence ...
              1. +1
                16 May 2014 11: 23
                And who of the current government of Ukraine will do this?
                And this is another question. And quite obvious to everyone. But I would have voiced just such a list of items.
                And at the UN, he would say that the introduction of the UNMC in this case would mean support and conservation of the coup and armed support for fascism. And that bargaining on this issue is fundamentally impossible.
            3. +2
              16 May 2014 11: 29
              Add to this:
              n.9. Sale of the gas transmission system of Ukraine to Russia.
              1. tux
                0
                16 May 2014 11: 52
                Quote: Echelon
                n.9. Sale of the gas transmission system of Ukraine to Russia.


                IMHO is not worth it. Is it not enough that there can be, what should we put out for every 10 meters of the pipeline?
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              3. 0
                16 May 2014 12: 12
                Quote: Echelon
                Add to this:
                n.9. Sale of the gas transmission system of Ukraine to Russia.

                laughing You have poor knowledge of the information ... The issue has already been resolved with the GTS for a long time ... She went to the squad for the Americans. Even in February and early March. The first appearance of mercenaries covered this, strengthening the protection regime from terrorist attacks ..
              4. 0
                18 May 2014 04: 00
                It won’t solve anything, because once they’ve found it, they will find a way to requisition it back ..- better, let it rot ...
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            5. +2
              16 May 2014 17: 00
              Noooo. Another cancellation of all sanctions that have been imposed on Russia because of Ukrainian moronity.
            6. +3
              16 May 2014 19: 31
              Quote: abrakadabre
              7. Immediate repayment of debt to Russia by property, industrial enterprises and territory (Odessa region), taking into account all interest and moral damage.

              uh ... how cool ..
              there is not much industry .. and the region is the largest in territory ..
              I'm afraid the most fantastic item
              They do not recognize the Maidan a crime for they themselves ascended the throne because of him ...
          5. GDP
            +3
            16 May 2014 10: 29
            Even the Americans already realized that it’s impossible to plan a big war with the allies who are able to steal and sell the rations they donated to them while they are still flying from the warehouse. Moreover, give them a loan!
          6. +16
            16 May 2014 10: 37
            Something like this ...
            Since we were told that we entered into agreements with another country, and this one does not owe us anything, we also promised 15 yards of frog skins to another country, but we did not promise anything to this. Graze everyone.
          7. +1
            16 May 2014 10: 44
            Quote: strannik595
            can be given, but ......... from you-the recognition of New Russia, the withdrawal of troops, the disarmament of all radicals and the national guard ....
            It sounds good, but there is a bunch of pathological liars and in fact everything will be exactly the opposite.
          8. +9
            16 May 2014 11: 05
            If you approach and understand ...
            Russia can LEND the remaining 12 billion
            in exchange for temporary use of areas:
            - Odessa
            - Nikolaev
            - Kherson
            - Zaporozhye
            - Dnepropetrovsk
            - Donetsk
            - Lugansk
            - Kharkiv
            - Sumy
            - Chernihiv
            - Kirovograd
            - Kiev

            Only 1 billion per region
            And as soon as you can repay the debts - we will return the area back.
            But if something is being built or repaired, Ukraine will have to pay these costs.

            And all wink can be done as the current government in Ukraine wants and they require Biden and Psyche (or rather Psyche) for Russia to intervene and stop the conflict.

            And knowing the habits of the Ukroclops, all the lands will remain in New Russia.
          9. +3
            16 May 2014 11: 15
            Quote: strannik595
            and then a lot of you want to suck a paw from a bear

            Well, you have to suck anyway wassat
            1. +2
              16 May 2014 16: 39
              Well, you have to suck anyway
              For all 15 lards? This is at the current rate of moths from Ukraine ... It’s even scary to think how long this whole procedure will take and with what consequences for the organ to be satisfied.
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          11. +1
            16 May 2014 11: 22
            good to give already! Winter will come so everyone will even recognize what is not.
          12. 0
            16 May 2014 14: 46
            Quote: strannik595
            can be given, but ......... from you - recognition of New Russia

            If only in the face. Let Europe and the USA.
          13. 0
            18 May 2014 23: 59
            Quote: strannik595
            can be given, but ......... from you - the recognition of New Russia, the withdrawal of troops, the disarmament of all radicals and the national guard ....... then we’ll think about it,

            This is a reasonable approach.
        2. +14
          16 May 2014 09: 42
          No. But what? The question can be considered of course ... From all sides. Just what we will guarantee a return? Words will not work. We still have not received interest for the past 3 billion ... Are there real economic guarantees of a return?
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          2. Hon
            +9
            16 May 2014 09: 53
            Quote: domokl
            Just how will we guarantee a return?

            nothing, there are real economic guarantees of no return
            1. +2
              16 May 2014 10: 31
              And if Ukraine falls apart - there are no payers for you!
              1. +1
                16 May 2014 11: 13
                the impression is that all this talk about Yaytsenyuk's 24 days, about price reductions, about "lend so that we can repay the debt" - all this is nonsense to divert attention and they are just dragging out time until the elections, and then, like, it will be seen
                1. 0
                  19 May 2014 00: 00
                  100 poods. As they have one of the maydanutyh said: Promise anything! And then hang everything! "Only then they will want to throw it again.
            2. +1
              16 May 2014 10: 37
              Quote: Hon
              nothing, there are real economic guarantees of no return

              laughing I wanted to write about lard, but it turned out that Ukraine has been eating Polish lard for three years already ... It seems to me that the question will be resolved so we transfer the money in the morning, we take gas for dinner ... And so on until Ukraine completely switches to certain parts under Russian jurisdiction, and in others under the Eurasian ...
          3. 0
            16 May 2014 10: 17
            Quote: domokl
            Is there a real economic guarantee of return?

            There is a guarantee .... there is current for the start of the tnado to sign a new document with the signatures of the Eurogays and s and put Ukraine on the eternal hook .... + recognize the DPR + disband the PS + give Yarosh + show NATE hu ...
            1. 0
              19 May 2014 07: 42
              there are guarantees ....
              So far, there is an iron 300% guarantee of non-return and misuse.
          4. Fin
            +1
            16 May 2014 10: 18
            Quote: domokl
            But what? The question can be considered of course ... From all sides. Only what we will guarantee a return?

            Do not give, but buy Yuzhmash, Motorsich, Antonov, SRZ Nikolaev, Zorya, etc. No wonder Kalomoisky wants to squeeze Yuzhmash, he feels that the Russian Federation is ready to dump the ball for him.
            1. +1
              16 May 2014 11: 05
              Quote: Fin
              Do not give, but buy Yuzhmash, Motorsich, Antonov, SRZ Nikolaev, Zorya, etc. No wonder Kalomoisky wants to squeeze Yuzhmash, he feels that the Russian Federation is ready to dump the ball for him

              No, no, no way not to get in touch with their plants ... They are arrogant ... You will buy from them and they will take them away six months ago ... This has already passed. The trouble is that we are kind and paid them for gas transit right up to 2015. Well, now until 2020 you don’t have to pay for transit and return
          5. +3
            16 May 2014 10: 24
            Here is the southeast and pick up for debt .....
            1. +4
              16 May 2014 11: 11
              Little
              It is necessary to give SO
              so that they could not give and take territory
              the bigger, the better.
              And after disinfection from dill
              to form - New Russia
          6. +1
            16 May 2014 10: 29
            Of course, you can give, provided that the current government is self-proclaimed resigning, all those responsible for the death of people on an aspen! Naturally ordinary people suffer from freaks in power, it’s not a pity for them!
          7. +1
            16 May 2014 10: 43
            What guarantees? If only Kiev, how to divide Berlin ... The country is really ruined ... Who gives the poor a loan ...
          8. 0
            19 May 2014 07: 39
            Just how will we guarantee a return? Words will not work.
            We are wild Asians. So as guarantees, you can demand ... hostages ... Oh, stranded sorry, guests. For example, the son of John Kerry.
            If Yaytsenyuk does not pay, the hostage count. Normal such medieval Mordor practice.
        3. +35
          16 May 2014 09: 42
          Quote: GDP
          Audacity second happiness!


          GDP this is not arrogance ...

          they are for sure, maydanutye (rams) on the whole head !!!!
          1. +1
            16 May 2014 11: 43
            Quote: cosmos111
            they are for sure, maydanutye (rams) on the whole head !!!!

            The ram is not colored correctly. With such a color, he should ride on his front hooves (he is not a mos-l).
            1. +1
              19 May 2014 00: 03
              Yes, even let them ride on the horns ...
        4. +17
          16 May 2014 09: 57
          They want our oil, but to smear our lips and rejoice like?
          Or - Afonya, lend me 100 rubles!
          -So no, at 50.
          -Okay, let's get 50, you'll have 50 more!
        5. +5
          16 May 2014 10: 06
          One hundred kuyev to them in the basket!
        6. zgd_se_1955
          +2
          16 May 2014 10: 08
          I completely agree!!! With the fact that these money hit the Donbass.
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        8. +1
          16 May 2014 10: 12
          And let them be HAPPY!
        9. +3
          16 May 2014 10: 28
          In no case do not give! They owe us another 3,5 billion for gas and it is not yet known where this money will go? I wonder why they are asking for money from their enemies, as they consider it. It turns out that we will feed them, and they will burn and shoot Russians in Ukraine, and the next step will attack us. No, let yourself get out. Is it better to really give the Southeast, as a weapon and medicine?
          1. tux
            0
            16 May 2014 12: 09
            Quote: Simon
            They owe us another 3,5 billion for gas


            And another 3 billion from the first tranche should.
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        10. WKS
          +1
          16 May 2014 11: 02
          Quote: GDP
          And with this money, as I understand it, they will arm the National Guard so that they shoot Russians and pay pensions to SS and UPA veterans ?!

          So they shot pensioners of Ukraine in order to save the pension fund for the subsequent plunder by Kolomoisky and Co.
        11. 225chay
          +2
          16 May 2014 11: 30
          Quote: GDP
          Audacity second happiness!
          And with this money, as I understand it, they will arm the National Guard so that they shoot Russians and pay pensions to SS and UPA veterans ?!


          Well, nah..y, nah ... yy!
          Died so dead ...
        12. +2
          16 May 2014 11: 59
          Not arrogance, but chronic dullness. It seems that we and Western Ukraine live in parallel universes (in the literal sense), and we have television in common. In their world, they are white and fluffy, and Russia attacked Ukraine. Otherwise, I can not explain the insanity that they carry.
      2. deathfa
        +8
        16 May 2014 09: 41
        Horseradish big and thick let it suck 15 billion times.
      3. +7
        16 May 2014 09: 43
        And to whom to give and under what?
        1. 0
          16 May 2014 10: 36
          Of course, no one! They have only temporary workers there who will not hold out for a long time, and all credit will be stolen and they will flee across the ocean. Then look for fistulas.
          1. 0
            18 May 2014 04: 11
            It’s being carried on with Christ - with what he ended up - everything is known ...
        2. 0
          16 May 2014 11: 13
          Under ALL Left Bank of Ukraine
      4. +1
        16 May 2014 09: 59
        Quote: Hon
        Not well, it's even by the standards of Ukraine arrogance)))

        It’s completely hohloedy brewed. What dimension are they in?
      5. +7
        16 May 2014 10: 01
        no matter how we respond to their INSUFFICIENCY with our STUPIDITY! I won’t be surprised if we give them more money for the development of the right sector and anti-Russian hysteria!
      6. +2
        16 May 2014 10: 29
        Hmm ... people don’t see the edges at all ... They immediately offered it in a good way, but no, we need to go to Europe ... And now, when Europe is in this form, we don’t need hren, we ask for money in Russia? Here are the political p. prostitutes!
      7. +3
        16 May 2014 10: 35
        I was stunned by such impudence. These supercars definitely smoke something or prick themselves. Or did the State Department select them in the current government for special debility tests? At every step they shout that Russia is waging a war against them and immediately demand money from us ... This is approximately how Hitler would demand free oil, grain and money from Stalin during the Second World War ...
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      9. +12
        16 May 2014 10: 44
        No, brothers, I generally fuck
        I may not understand at all
        The junta wanted money from Russia
        Which we offered them in December

        But they refused, proudly lifted their nose
        They arranged the Maidan and lay under the mattress
        Like, from the west they gave us money
        In short, we fell in love with the EU and the USA

        So where is your money?
        Again we go to Russia: in trouble, do not give up!
        What, cookies from the USA ended?
        Don't want to wallow in compost?

        I’ll briefly say junta, excuse me
        You abandoned Russia, enemies forever
        So Obama and the EU suck the end
        And we for the DNI today scrape in the gut

        drinks wink
      10. +6
        16 May 2014 10: 55
        Quote: Hon
        Not well, it's even by the standards of Ukraine arrogance)))


        Well, what else to take from Velikoukrov? Indeed, in their history, even

        "Tutankhamun was Ukrainian!

        ORIGIN OF SPECIES

        Jews became all black from grief,
        “How to live further?” The question froze in his eyes.
        Maloros scientists discovered
        That the Jesus Christ was Ukrainian!

        They found direct evidence
        That Little Russia was not only him.
        Now publishers are in full swing,
        That Tutankhamun was Ukrainian

        That Buddha grew up in the city of Chernigov,
        And, like Christ, on the mov,
        And in Rome he delivered the pepper shining to Caligula,
        And later he headed the Zaporozhets,

        What is the city of Kolomyia a small homeland
        Counted another - Columbus,
        Native American Spawn
        Serve vodka with fat to the table.

        Gagarin was a Little Russian pilot,
        Since I flew over the Dnieper more than once,
        And Prometheus was a Ukrainian lad,
        After all, he stole fire and gas from the gods!

        Sarmatians, Scythians, Cimmerians, Arias
        UkrAintsy were in the bud,
        And if someone was born suddenly in Tatarstan,
        That he had relatives in Hohland!

        Yes, the Lord himself, as the Scripture says,
        And he wears harem pants and a mustache,
        And Ukraine is a universe:
        From the stars to the Poltava sausage!

        Seas went from her, dawn embraced,
        And birds, and peoples of different countries ...
        Only the damned
        Came from aliens!

        Alexander Vulykh.

        http://zadornov.net/?p=6016
      11. bif
        +2
        16 May 2014 11: 13
        Quote: Hon
        Not well, it's even by the standards of Ukraine arrogance)))

        Nothing prevents the impudence to respond with impudence - roll out the list in an impudent way, for example, transferring the GTS of dill to the property of the Russian Federation, the Nuremberg Tribunal ver.2.0 for current rulers and oligarchs, a gold-currency reserve (it seems to be about 15bn), a return of the existing debts and future gold ... etc. From such proposals, insolent ukroraviteli should bile go throat.
      12. +1
        16 May 2014 11: 25
        Quote: Hon
        Not well, it's even by the standards of Ukraine arrogance)))

        It seems - they were reassured by the US - regarding Russian opposition to the aspirations of the junta. They will no longer ask for military assistance against the South - East, but demand. - Judging by the statements made at the "economic get-togethers" taking place in Russia. Surely, in the coming days on TV another Hasid will convince how "unacceptable" it is to provide military assistance to the Russians in Ukraine, but then, from the UN rostrum - we will show everyone!
      13. 0
        16 May 2014 11: 26
        The fact of the matter is that they will take arrogance, money, and they’ll hardly give it back when they give it away, they don’t have that desire, they have one desire, just take, take and take.
      14. sazhka4
        0
        16 May 2014 11: 37
        Quote: Hon
        Not well, it's even by the standards of Ukraine arrogance)))

        Suppose I drive your car. I want to buy it. You give me the money and I return it to you. Now I don’t owe anything and my car remains .. Cool .. What's the catch? I do not understand such tricks
      15. +1
        16 May 2014 12: 03
        And you can still do with the soul. purely in Russian, kindly. Everyone remembers the conditions of America and the EU for receiving money from them and associating with them? Raising gas prices for the people, decreasing pensions ... etc. So to put forward a demand exactly the opposite. Plus the demobilization of all hunt formations and the criminal investigation of all crimes against the civilian population. And yes, the recognition of referendums and everything connected with it (how can we go without it?). And then a real "fork" will be obtained for the United States with Merkel and for Kiev. But these requirements must first be made public to the whole world, and then handed over to the proper persons. That they would not have time to raise a false blizzard.
      16. 225chay
        0
        16 May 2014 13: 09
        Quote: Hon
        Not well, it's even by the standards of Ukraine arrogance)))


        Without any boundaries.
        And where is the sleeve sewn, they know? ...
      17. 0
        16 May 2014 14: 45
        Quote: Hon
        Not well, it's even by the standards of Ukraine arrogance))

        Why arrogance, that’s it. I spat in Russia, did not pay for gas, blamed Russia for all sins. I destroyed a bunch of Russians in the southeast and now you can ask for money.
        Pigs overgrown.
      18. +1
        16 May 2014 21: 35
        Not well, a hammer hkhehehehe "piss in the eyes I say that the dew of God" but nothing that all these government-Banderlog started the CIVIL WAR and kill Russians and Russian-speaking people in Odessa, Mariupol, Slavyansk, Kramatorsk negative angry
      19. 0
        16 May 2014 22: 04
        Quote: Hon
        Not well, it's even by the standards of Ukraine arrogance)))

        It is not clear that they may be prevented from paying further, even after the issuance of 2 billion
    2. +11
      16 May 2014 09: 34
      Insolence has no limits, as is stupidity.
      1. +18
        16 May 2014 09: 40
        Maybe I'm not strong in finances, but explain how you can borrow it to pay off the debt, to remain in debt the same debt and ask for more debt. Some crap what
        1. +4
          16 May 2014 09: 50
          Quote from comprochikos
          Maybe I'm not strong in finances, but explain how you can borrow it to pay off the debt, to remain in debt the same debt and ask for more debt. Some crap

          This is everywhere, the same last loan Ukraine received from the IMF, went to service previously issued loans.
          But this scheme, for us and Ukraine, is now simply not real. So let them help them with a geyropa now ...
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        3. Hon
          +1
          16 May 2014 09: 56
          Quote from comprochikos
          Maybe I'm not strong in finances, but explain how you can borrow it to pay off the debt, to remain in debt the same debt and ask for more debt. Some crap

          The credit pyramid is called
          1. 0
            19 May 2014 00: 08
            you have to become even more. because new debt usually goes to service% of the old debt. And so exponentially.
        4. +2
          16 May 2014 10: 08
          Quote from comprochikos
          Maybe I'm not strong in finances, but explain how you can borrow it to pay off the debt, to remain in debt the same debt and ask for more debt. Some crap

          Debt pit is called.
        5. +3
          16 May 2014 10: 10
          In general - it is possible :)))
          The thing is that the question is who should. Now, Naftogaz of Ukraine owes Gazprom. In principle, Naftogaz could have replayed at someone, but at whom? Only the state. But the state does not have money, so the state asks for money from us to give Naftogaz to give to Gazprom.
          As a result, as Ukraine should have, it remains, but only if earlier Naftogaz owed to Gazprom, now the Ukrainian state owes it to the budget of the Russian Federation.
          But who would tell me - why would we give them credit? :)
        6. +1
          16 May 2014 10: 15
          And not only that! They say it as if the lender himself is to blame! (Pay us a tranche of 2 billion, as promised in January, we will immediately pay this money for the debt on gas. )
          1. +2
            16 May 2014 10: 30
            And let them demand from their Western "tips" to build democracy!
            The director of the CIA, his deputy, the speaker of the State Department psaki!
            Quote: Fin
            Do not give, but buy Yuzhmash, Motorsich, Antonov, SRZ Nikolaev, Zorya, etc. No wonder Kalomoisky wants to squeeze Yuzhmash, he feels that the Russian Federation is ready to dump the ball for him.

            And the factories that were built through the efforts of the entire Union PAY FOR DEBT!
            1. tux
              +1
              16 May 2014 12: 18
              Quote: Starover_Z
              And the factories that were built by the efforts of the entire Union PAY FOR DEBTS!

              And to withdraw beyond the Urals, as was done during the Second World War, so that they could never be taken back.
              1. 0
                18 May 2014 04: 17
                Yeah, more expensive than new build ...
        7. +1
          16 May 2014 10: 31
          This is not crap, this is a "thin" Ukrainian policy! laughing
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        9. +1
          16 May 2014 10: 34
          Maybe I'm not strong in finances, but explain how you can borrow it to pay off the debt, to remain in debt the same debt and ask for more debt. Some crap
          This is a common practice of international relations in general and the meaning of the existence of international financial institutions.
          Exactly what you wrote.
    3. +10
      16 May 2014 09: 34
      Lost all fear, it's already my clinic .........
      1. +7
        16 May 2014 09: 43
        When you really want to eat, not only fear, but they sell or lose everything else. And here is the usual position for Ukraine in the last 20 years and a little. Take a piece and give a hand to pull
        1. +2
          16 May 2014 10: 38
          Take a piece and give a hand to pull
          Therefore, any sane giver for the second time reaches out a helping hand already clenched into a fist and with the most effective speed for a friendly setting of brains. In stubborn cases, therapy involves a series of such helping hand stretches. And in especially difficult cases, several similar stretches of a friendly foot are welcome.
      2. +13
        16 May 2014 09: 44
        This is not a clinic. This is already a panic. Give give us money. At least someone. At least for something! Us krants.
        Soon Yanyka will agree to return, if only they left the woods.
      3. +10
        16 May 2014 10: 13
        Quote: ziqzaq
        Lost all fear, it's already my clinic .........


        clinic is not the word


        sorry if you have already published
    4. Rubmolot
      +7
      16 May 2014 09: 34
      Comrades of the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development!
      Come on, you go ...!
    5. terminator_163
      +5
      16 May 2014 09: 34
      Vachpe have become stupid !!!!!
    6. +6
      16 May 2014 09: 35
      Why on credit? There is something to sell. Not all Americans, but for free. laughing They wanted Crimea, pipe and Donbass for 15 "lards". So what? Oh yes! Putin threw them. Because Russia is to blame for everything.
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      2. Hon
        +4
        16 May 2014 10: 01
        Ours a month ago suggested transferring Ukrainian enterprises (defense) into Russian ownership as a gas debt. Disagree until ...
        1. ZSP
          0
          16 May 2014 10: 27
          Nothing that we patient can wait until the cold weather, at the same time the percentage will run.

          But to give a new one well, it’s impossible, they will prosper again, but the Donetsk Republic needs help
      3. +1
        16 May 2014 11: 08
        please, the whole gas transmission system, recognition of the independence of the entire southeast with nationalization, ....
    7. +10
      16 May 2014 09: 35
      their borzometr didn’t go off scale? wassat
      1. +9
        16 May 2014 09: 38
        It’s not their borzometer that just burned out hi
        1. +6
          16 May 2014 09: 40
          Quote: Nikolay74
          It’s not their borzometer that just burned out

          Yes, he has long been gone. twisted and sold ...
      2. +21
        16 May 2014 09: 46
        Quote: Nogicune
        their borzometr didn’t go off scale?

        No! I lost my memory a little! We agreed with YANUKOVICH, Because the Russian Federation can offer - "return Yanukovych and we will continue negotiations with him" tongue
        In general, there is more to come !!!

        They ask the Russian Federation to return gas from the Crimea !!! It turns out that there wasn’t such a subsidized region! fellow
        1. +4
          16 May 2014 10: 04
          Quote: Egoza
          We agreed with YANUKOVICH,

          I completely agree with you. Agreed, with the legitimate Government, with a normal type of state. And now we’ve looked that Geyropa is not going to feed them, because she walks without pants, and they think that she’s going to fool again with Russia. Type brotherly peoples. No, the fascists are not our brothers.
          And if Russia makes concessions, then in my personal eyes the opinion of those on whose side the truth is shaken.
          To a fool, let your paw be so interesting ...
      3. +1
        16 May 2014 11: 08
        Quote: Nogicune
        their borzometr didn’t go off scale? wassat

        I know there is such a device wassat , but he SOMETIMES noona NON-TEST pass, and here it is expired, so he rolls over fool drinks hi
    8. +12
      16 May 2014 09: 35
      To pay for Russian money for Russian gas ... And then interest on securities, a loan? also have to forgive like DPRK, CUBA, etc. Let the European pennies calculated ...
      1. +2
        16 May 2014 10: 45
        Let the European pennies calculated ...
        Let the territory pay. At the rate of 1 dollar - 1 hectare. In this case, we choose the sites. Priority Odessa region and Transcarpathia.
    9. Stump
      +13
      16 May 2014 09: 35
      Ahah)) We don’t serve on Fridays) wait at the church with outstretched hand or by SMS, which are small, for the first time or what?)
      Clans)
    10. +13
      16 May 2014 09: 35
      Give us 15 billion so that we repay you 3 billion debt. Bravo! good
      1. Stump
        +10
        16 May 2014 09: 39
        When a Ukrainian was born, a Jew cried)
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        2. Hon
          +3
          16 May 2014 10: 02
          Quote: Tree Stump
          When a Ukrainian was born, a Jew cried)

          laughing
          1. 0
            16 May 2014 10: 45
            And when the last Jew was dying, on his deathbed he said: "Guys, take care of the Ukrainians!"
    11. +16
      16 May 2014 09: 36
      An illegitimate government that does not answer for anything is asking for money in debt
      1. +5
        16 May 2014 09: 51
        Quote: koksalek
        An illegitimate government that does not answer for anything is asking for money in debt

        Citizens! Why, this is BEAUTIFUL !!! How many times proudly on all TV, mass media and other things Yatsenyuk trumpeted: "They have already given us ... they will give us ... they will provide assistance ... millions, billions ... now, already in May ... the IMF ..."

        AND WHERE?I had to ask Russia !!! So "beckoned to the beautiful far away" and shish under your breath!
        1. ZSP
          +3
          16 May 2014 10: 33
          Inadequate, with an inflamed brain, drug addicts - drive 2,5 months to Russia, and then ask for money, I understand that the withdrawal began ,,,,
        2. 0
          17 May 2014 22: 38
          So it is necessary to answer them: Obama will serve!
      2. yulka2980
        +4
        16 May 2014 10: 00
        I would even say, he’s not asking, but demanding! Like you promised fool
        1. +3
          16 May 2014 10: 06
          And why not give, pi .... to, kind, grown-up, give a loan, I will give you a debt, believe not ?? laughing
    12. +8
      16 May 2014 09: 36
      In my opinion, people have completely lost their sense of reality ...
      Ukraine as a debtor is not at all interesting with the current leadership and anti-Russian rhetoric ... It's time to stupidly shut off the pipe.

      What kind of borrowing ... deal with your economy ... pay ... start working and live within your means. If the people of Ukraine like such rulers ... let them continue to vote for them by all means (Maidan ... just silent doing nothing).
      1. +2
        16 May 2014 19: 52
        Quote: silberwolf88
        If the people of Ukraine like such rulers ... let them continue to vote for them by all means (Maidan ... just silent doing nothing).

        Is each following worse than the previous?
        No thanks, I know that Janus is a lousy president, but still did not support the Maidan, because I have a good memory for the Maidan and I know the tradition .. In addition, I was satisfied with the Moscow agreements (at least that was presented to the public)
        Understand the people generally use stupid everywhere ... like a stupid electorate. like a crowd, like a weapon ...
        and wait a time when "doing nothing" is also a tool. Look - if everyone just got up and went on strike, to mutilate all dissidents in the national sense, to fight everything that an uncontrollable crowd can think of (and nothing good will come of it), it will be worse than now. I can skim a whole article when "myakhataskrainist" is the factor that hinders the actions of not only the interests of the Russian Federation, but also the sponsors and Kiev and the PS and all anti-Ukrainian elements ...
        Ukraine, get up (Maidan), Ukraine didn’t get up, I had to rape with bayonets Kiev, and now, Ukraine, get up again (to fight the Russian Federation) and it doesn’t get up ...
    13. Stump
      +8
      16 May 2014 09: 37
      And by the way, you can put a condition, we promised Yanukovych a loan - so let him come back, Turchinov and others like him drive - then we'll discuss)
      1. +3
        16 May 2014 10: 06
        Also an option. Also add "did you want to go to Europe? So you ask Europe"
      2. Korablev
        +1
        16 May 2014 10: 27
        Quote: Tree Stump
        Turchinov and others like him drive

        do not "drive", but on the aspen!
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    14. +11
      16 May 2014 09: 37
      Have the State Department, clowns ...
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      2. Hon
        +1
        16 May 2014 10: 07
        Quote: mig31
        Have the State Department, clowns ...

        They asked, but had to suck carrots. Greedy State Department
    15. Kolovrat77
      +7
      16 May 2014 09: 37
      15 billiards and keys .... from the Kremlin. A cho so swindle the queen from the so-so king.
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    16. +10
      16 May 2014 09: 38
      Well, I'm going to crash from my chair, we are "ka-py, mos-li, invaders, terrorists, quilted jackets, beggars, we do not jump."
      1. +2
        16 May 2014 09: 51
        Quote: Humpty
        Well, I'm going to crash from my chair, we are "ka-py, mos-li, invaders, terrorists, quilted jackets, beggars, we do not jump."


        They just think that along with all this, we are also fools. What to take with a mournful little mind ... Forgive them for this ... Maybe ...
        1. +4
          16 May 2014 10: 14
          mamont5

          Unfortunately, they gave them a reason to consider themselves fools and not only them. They have any government for 23 years spoiled Russia and grew Bandera, and in response from Russia all sorts of benefits. They considered good incentives to be stupid, i.e. they spat in the face.
        2. ZSP
          +1
          16 May 2014 10: 35
          Nekuya - for this do not forgive stop
      2. 0
        16 May 2014 12: 17
        Quote: Humpty
        Well, I'm going to crash from my chair, we are "ka-py, mos-li, invaders, terrorists, quilted jackets, beggars, we do not jump."

        Still slaves who do not understand freedom. We interfere constantly in their affairs ..
    17. +8
      16 May 2014 09: 38
      I propose to return to transactions of the 19 century.
      We sold Amers to Alaska.

      Ukraine also has something to offer. You can begin to evaluate the Dill Areas - which so and so want separation. And here for Ukraine finally benefit.
      There is less money and territories - no one needs to be fed.


      And to lend meaning to give.
      1. It is not clear to whom and under what shishi.
      2. And so it turns out you give us what we would give you. What would the gas be for free. And then they have round eyes.
      3. Anyway, some kind of dumbness. Russia is evil and towards Russia with outstretched hands.
      Go to your beneficiaries: EU and USA. Corefans let them give.
      1. 0
        16 May 2014 11: 23
        So am I about the same

        Each region of Ukraine - for 1 billion

        And I liked the idea with Alaska -
        Russia sold 100 years ago for 6.5 million
        and now we can help American partners
        and redeem 20 times more expensive - for another 15 billion

        And Sarah Paylen can take Russian citizenship - to call eyes McCain.
    18. +15
      16 May 2014 09: 38
      more and more it seems to me that Ukrainian politicians are not just crazy, but really live in another universe, some utopian unrealistically distant. show- "behind the glass". I even feel sorry for them. They themselves say that we have a war with Russia. - what money !!!
      1. +1
        16 May 2014 12: 13
        Quote: punk
        I already feel sorry for them. Let’s say themselves, we have a war with Russia. What money !!!

        I would put the words a little differently: "Russia, give me money, otherwise we have nothing to fight with!"
    19. +9
      16 May 2014 09: 38
      rope and soap, and then, prepaid
    20. 77bob1973
      +11
      16 May 2014 09: 39
      And why not ask the overseas "brothers" for a certain amount of lards?
      1. +3
        16 May 2014 09: 56
        who will give them overseas loot know how to count. and the Russians, by their kindness of soul, will cry and can give. Where is the logic and sanity ?! my neighbor’s gas debt of 7t.r turned him off for non-payment. hohland owes us 3,5 billion dollars or 1,3 trillion rubles and we only set an advance payment for June.
    21. +19
      16 May 2014 09: 41
      You need to learn lending from the "chosen of God".

      An anecdote in the subject.
      A man went to borrow money from a Jew. "Abram, lend a ruble," he says. "Okay, I will, only you will give me two, and also, to give it exactly, bring an ax as collateral," Abram replies. The man brought an ax, took a ruble, just leave, Abram calls out to him: "Listen, do you owe me two rubles?" "Yes ..." "How much do you have now?" The man shows the ruble received. Abram takes this ruble and says: “Okay, now you only owe me one ruble.” A man goes home, scratches his head and thinks ... not a ruble, not an ax, a ruble owes - but everything seems to be fair.

      So it is necessary with the current Kiev. And the money itself will be useful.
      1. +1
        16 May 2014 12: 16
        Quote: sapsan14
        neither the ruble, nor the ax, the ruble should - but everything seems to be fair.
        So it is necessary with the current Kiev. And the money itself will be useful.

        So Americans with the whole world have long been doing.
    22. +5
      16 May 2014 09: 42
      you will not wish such a "brother" to the enemy.
      1. 0
        19 May 2014 00: 20
        Why do we need enemies if there are such brothers?
    23. +5
      16 May 2014 09: 42
      Sonny asks mom, mom, and you smear me borrow 10 bucks? She answers, yes, son, of course. He's- well, come on 5 now and 5 more you have to .....
    24. Kodar 75
      +2
      16 May 2014 09: 45
      As long as they feel the protection and patronage of their puppeteers, they still can not say such things!
      1. 0
        17 May 2014 22: 42
        Gas Close. Then it will. Immediately to all.
    25. +7
      16 May 2014 09: 45
      Slapak needs to be lustrated. Only a rascally unclean Ukrainian can humblely ask k.atsa. belay
    26. +3
      16 May 2014 09: 45
      pha hahaaaaa Ukraine stop
      1. +1
        16 May 2014 10: 14
        Now the topic is about drug addicts all over the world who asked Ukrainians for their dope nonsense :)
    27. +4
      16 May 2014 09: 45
      There are no words ... Some expressions ...
      1. +7
        16 May 2014 10: 19
        Like - huh hu not ho-ho? lol
    28. +10
      16 May 2014 09: 46
      Insolence, THERE IS NO LIMIT!
      So many crap Russia, so many Russian people killed, and their leaders continue to urge to kill Russians and destroy Russia, and now to her with an outstretched arm ...
      So whoever made a mess in Ukraine, let him pay, and this money should be sent to the separated Southeast to restore the regions.
    29. +5
      16 May 2014 09: 46
      Gritsko, do I owe you a hundred hryvnias?
      -Yes.
      -Give me another hundred, and I'll give you a hundred!
    30. +6
      16 May 2014 09: 47
      "Ukraine asks Russia for 15 billion dollars in debt"

      Not, well, I saw, of course, insolents, but that way ... I did not see this. We can help, of course, but to whom?
    31. +5
      16 May 2014 09: 47
      I almost described myself with laughter! laughing
    32. +47
      16 May 2014 09: 48
      Children how quickly grasp the situation .. laughing
      1. Roshchin
        +8
        16 May 2014 09: 57
        And English for PIN-dostanovtsev. Very correct citizenship
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        3. +4
          16 May 2014 10: 27
          Quote: Grove
          And English for PIN-dostanovtsev

          When I was studying at school, in the 60s, we also found one in our class, by the name of Fokin, who said: “I will not study the fascist language!” We studied German then. We laughed among ourselves. The class teacher preached his mother at a parent meeting. You need to learn languages, even Ukrainian, although it is an artificial language, not to mention German, English, French. Firstly, it increases the cultural level, technical mobility. Secondly, it does not allow to ossify. , rust the brain, which in turn prolongs life.
          1. +2
            16 May 2014 10: 57
            In a normal situation, when it ends, it will be necessary to so-called. teach Ukrainian, and now it’s just that way, = it’s more important to grow normal people out of children, and not zombie Maidanites ...
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          3. 0
            16 May 2014 11: 08
            Ukrainian does not need to be studied, since native speakers of Ukrainian, in 99% of cases, know Russian. This is therefore a waste of time.
            1. darc
              +1
              16 May 2014 12: 49
              Have you noticed that moving from Russian to Ukrainian, even the most rabid Bandera people generally slow down their speech, like people who do not know a foreign language?
              1. +1
                16 May 2014 20: 02
                Quote: Darc
                Have you noticed that moving from Russian to Ukrainian, even the most rabid Bandera people generally slow down their speech, like people who do not know a foreign language?

                vice versa .. It is also cleverly and gracefully scratching the tongue, and sometimes even better in Russian.
                The Ukrainian language is for corrupt politicians, just the language of politics (that is, for the ears of the electorate, they say I'm a true Ukrainian)
                But some Ukrainians are fighting that the MOV is not protected by the state, and the Russian forces it out and gives it nothing. In short, if not Ukrainianization, then Russian will win ... And if Russian gets the status of a state, then the Ukraine-not Russia project will fail ...
      2. Nikolav
        +1
        16 May 2014 10: 31
        Ha ha! I remember "Freedom for Luis Corvalan!")))
    33. olf_1959
      +2
      16 May 2014 09: 48
      Kanatchikova cottage is resting.
      1. +1
        16 May 2014 09: 55
        Quote: olf_1959
        Kanatchikova cottage is resting.

        Why so soon: resting No. . Not resting- Yes . Preparing to receive new patients ...
    34. Khalmamed
      +11
      16 May 2014 09: 49
      at the beginning: "The Russian Armed Forces are already in Kiev .., to kill Russians with a fantastic atomic gun .., the whole YUGO-VOSTOK agents of the GRU and the FSB paid personally to the GDP .., ultimatum to Gozprom ..., the export of historical values ​​..."
      it’s very hard with reason ... and even with memory .., the owners sent a cheat to ...?, or has your time already gone and finally grab ...?

      ask the LORD for brains and instructions on how to use them ...
      you are crazy, and crazy people don’t give money ...
    35. +1
      16 May 2014 09: 50
      Yeah, right now, a hole to you, Svidomo, from a donut, not Russian gas!
    36. +6
      16 May 2014 09: 50
      Words are not enough from such impudence. Let them turn to "OWN OWN OWNERS" and feed them for free. Where did they strive there and ended up in ....
      1. +3
        16 May 2014 09: 58
        Quote: San_AA
        Let them turn to "OUR WESTERN OWNERS"

        So after all, what a misfortune ...

        Merkel said the need to cooperate with Russia
        German Chancellor Angela Merkel noted the need to continue close cooperation with Russia, despite the Ukrainian crisis. "I am convinced that close cooperation with Russia in the medium and long term should be continued" ...
        ... - said the chancellor to the German edition of the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. For this, according to her, "a minimum of common values ​​should be transferred to the plane of concrete political actions."

        Merkel also stressed that Germany excludes the possibility of a military solution to the crisis in Ukraine and continues to rely on a diplomatic settlement of the situation. At the same time, the Chancellor did not agree with the statement of the Minister of Economy of the country Sigmar Gibriel, who earlier stated that "it was unwise to create in Ukraine the impression that it should choose between Russia and the EU."
        http://www.versii.com/news/303741/
        XXXX
        Looks good Merkel German businessmen on the head tapped !!!
        Well, since Merkel admitted .... then we are behind her ... with outstretched hand!
        1. 0
          16 May 2014 20: 58
          But what about Merkel’s claims of separation from Putin’s reality. He is torn off ... or maybe she is torn off.
          Firmly cleaned her brain business !!!
        2. 0
          17 May 2014 22: 52
          I am convinced that close cooperation with Russia in the medium and long term should be continued

          Oh really. This is arrogance. She was almost from the first day, her colleagues in the Bundestag said that she supported the Nazis in Ukraine, and Merzel pretended that she did not hear.
          And what did she say to Obamchik, this old gossip? That Putin is not adequate.
          And now, like water from a goose. This mamsel gives out other people's thoughts as OWN.
          I think that the GERMAN CHANCELLOR Freylan Merkel is not competent.
          She needs to be treated.
          1. 0
            18 May 2014 08: 15
            In a word, mackerel ..
    37. 0
      16 May 2014 09: 51
      completely lost scent dill
    38. +10
      16 May 2014 09: 52


      America teaches Ukraine to ask for money from Russia ... laughing
      1. 0
        16 May 2014 10: 09
        We discussed with Valeroka yesterday
        A sore point in life:
        Those who once loved us
        Everyone asked back, but - suction!

        I'm not rude, Kolya, and not greedy, -
        But when they break with me, -
        Sorry, but I ... Well, okay, okay, -
        It's just that I'm always like this in the spring.
      2. 0
        16 May 2014 10: 40
        Precisely noticed, but unfortunately Iznurenkovyh we do not!
    39. +8
      16 May 2014 09: 52
      But Bandera didn’t come? He didn’t put things in order? Try to jump, it will especially help in winter!
      1. +2
        16 May 2014 10: 14
        But Bandera didn’t come? He didn’t put things in order? Try to jump, it will especially help in winter!

        And if for each leg, but in the dynamo, this is how much electricity will be released. You can sell it, here’s the money.
    40. +5
      16 May 2014 09: 52
      But the ryah won't crack? Ask the geyropeytsy with mattresses!
    41. Hyperboreec
      +4
      16 May 2014 09: 52
      THEY:
      First ARUT - that Russia is to blame for everything, even that splinter in that place. They are killing people.

      AND WANT FOR IT ANOTHER AND MONEY !!! NO ALREADY - FIRST DUE TO 16 LARDS RETURN.

      NON-PEOPLE.
    42. +7
      16 May 2014 09: 53
      Ukraine asks Russia for 15 billions of dollars in debt

      belay
      I almost choked on coffee. The device is worker-peasant in your collar and not 15 billion.
      1. +2
        16 May 2014 09: 57
        I agree with you, outrageous impudence.
    43. Roshchin
      +2
      16 May 2014 09: 54
      And this clever Shapak, you can immediately see that he can count: "Give us 15 billion euros, and we can return the debt of 2 billion from them, and the rest will be pulled through the cracks by the junta and its servants, which are already mowing with a purple eye wherever they can escape."
    44. +3
      16 May 2014 09: 55
      Russia does not see the possibility of Ukraine paying for gas supplies even if a discount is granted due to the economic situation in the country. Energy Minister Alexander Novak told reporters about this. According to him, the Russian side has no guarantees of payment for gas supplies by Ukraine at any discount. “We have no guarantees that even if the price is set at $ 100, these prices can be paid by the Ukrainian side . Today, there is complete insolvency, "the minister said. Earlier, the Minister of Energy and Coal Industry, appointed by the Verkhovna Rada, Yuriy Prodan, stated that Ukraine is ready to pay off the debt for the supplied Russian gas" within ten days if Russia returns to the price of $ 268,5 per 1 thousand cubic meters ".

      In the process, debts will have to be written off .. And the loan that the IMF junta allocated has clearly been plundered ...
      1. +1
        16 May 2014 10: 09
        Quote: MIKHAN
        In the process, debts will have to be written off

        Nuuuu, debts have already scored exactly in the Donbass. Maybe we’ll take it in kind?
    45. yulka2980
      +4
      16 May 2014 09: 55
      I won’t be surprised if we give money and even more! They are used to Russian reliability! And it’s very sad ... I hope that we will show them a cookie! am Let the EU ask grandmas.
      1. +1
        16 May 2014 10: 24
        They promised ... for 15 years! winked
    46. +2
      16 May 2014 09: 59
      As VVP said on another occasion: "a dead donkey's ears, not ..."
    47. +2
      16 May 2014 09: 59
      Ukraine asks Russia for 15 billions of dollars in debt
      They created an absurd state, invented Bandera's "Fenya", a nation of dill, the kids, as they can, and it is impossible to live without Russia ... Obviously, when there is a Russian-Romanian border, all problems will disappear, and we, both on the outskirts, and in Gas will flow to Europe calmly.
      1. +2
        16 May 2014 10: 41
        And in 10-15 years the Russian-Romanian border will already be on the Tula-Serpukhov line, right ?! You can't retreat! Ukraine has become a homeless person, but this does not mean that this situation must be aggravated, that millions of Russian people must be abandoned to their fate, so that there will be scorched earth and NATO troops, led by the sons of our most bitter enemies from across the Ocean. When ethnic cleansing begins there, no one will stand up for the Russians. In general, everything that happens really resembles a circus tent, it is disgusting and bitter to see all this. But it is even more bitter to realize that OUR government, headed by the present "leader", can hardly solve this situation.
        1. +1
          16 May 2014 11: 03
          Quote: 1536
          And in years through 10-15, the Russian-Romanian border will already be on the Tula-Serpukhov line, right ?!
          No, Eugene, not so! I’m just about the fact that Ukraine is the root part of Russia, with a historical heart in Kiev, and all the troubles are because they try to make dill from the native Russians, that is, Russians oppose the Russians, the ancient Russia of the rest of Russia. And you didn’t understand about the border, it’s not Romanians to us, and when we are to them, if the Russians are reluctant to reunite, without this trouble.
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        4. -1
          16 May 2014 11: 19
          OUR government is headed by the current "leader".)
          It is not clear what kind of government this is. Which government, whose country do you mean?
          (but this does not mean that it is necessary to aggravate this situation and leave millions of Russian people to their fate,)
          And here, what are you seriously proposing to finance the Ukrainian junta. If
          to fund, then this money is unlikely to reach the Russian people.
    48. 0
      16 May 2014 09: 59
      Well, these are funny "Kiev authorities", now Russia will not give a loan, it is only the IMF can, because they have already invested in the state. coup. And if Russia resumes the subsequent tranches of 15 billion (2 tranches 2 + 3 have already been), then only when the government is formed and the constitutional reform is carried out, and of course the debt for gas will be repaid at least partially. And then you give money, and then they put a fig for you, they say, "we didn't take it, not give it to us." Russia has regions where it is more important to invest, and the return will be in the long term.
    49. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 00
      Actually, out of the promised 15 billion, 3 have already been received! Where are they?!?!? Lost in the pockets of the junta? And who will give them ?! Accustomed to make your capital for free! Where do you get billionaires ??? !!! Is it from the Russian pipe ?? !! The Americans just want Russia to pay for the war !!! Figo !!! Let "Deception" fork out!
    50. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 00
      Damn! This news impressed me! And so little ??? Let the cookies with Molotov cocktails be asked immediately!
    51. +1
      16 May 2014 10: 01
      I told my wife, her first reaction:
      - what, they’ll give it

      But I think they’re not asking out of nowhere. There is some logic:

      - Gazprom will put pressure on the government, they may give it to help Gazprom

    52. Palych9999
      -1
      16 May 2014 10: 01
      You can expect anything you want from our “Gas Sages”.
      The money is not theirs, they couldn’t conclude a normal contract (like: “Price for Dill = price for Germany”), they can give money...
    53. +1
      16 May 2014 10: 02
      The saying is appropriate here: “They want to eat fish and sit down (censored)”; however, they are striving for Europe, they are no strangers!
    54. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 04
      Ukraine asks Russia for 15 billions of dollars in debt


      A “head” on the collar so that it doesn’t rub your neck! We won’t give money to the hanged men, but we can give soap; we won’t be poorer for a piece of household goods. Geyropa is trying, at our expense, to solve the problem of gas supplies. Cookies and buns come out sideways to the Tolerists, in fact, they are sitting at the same table with the fascists and the “faces” of the Gay Europeans are not only wrinkled, they are all covered in guano.
    55. Nikolav
      +1
      16 May 2014 10: 05
      "Pay us a tranche of 2 billion, as promised in January"

      As they say, can’t you spread jam on your lips?
    56. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 06
      Turning to the enemy and occupier for money is nonsense. The unscrupulousness of the Ukrainian authorities is visible.
    57. +3
      16 May 2014 10: 06
      I'm just shocked, this is some kind of parallel world.
    58. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 06
      Yeah! That's how they squeaked!
      1. 0
        16 May 2014 21: 02
        They did squeak.
    59. parus2nik
      0
      16 May 2014 10: 06
      Blame Russia for all mortal sins, and ask for money... Money on credit to Ukraine is a waste... like vodka without beer... The situation, I come to my neighbor, insult him in every possible way and immediately ask for a loan... I wonder what I will get ..money or pendals..?
    60. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 07
      - The wife went to live with her husband and demands that her husband feed her!
    61. soyuz-nik
      0
      16 May 2014 10: 07
      Me, me! Kemska Volost! I!

      Pass your word.... laughing
    62. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 08
      Audacity second happiness.
      Why don't they go through the forest! am
    63. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 08
      No, they are arrogant......, they say this with such a tone that they are doing a favor to Russia. No, they are arrogant.........And these......also call on Russia for normal cooperation belay Yes, collaborating with such people is like hitting yourself below the belt with all your might.
      Give them poison, otherwise they won’t die!
    64. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 08
      Ukraine asks Russia for 15 billions of dollars in debt

      Rave. Fight with us with our money.
      I understand that the Yankos are hypocritical morons. And now the Ukrainians are going there too.
      .
    65. +1
      16 May 2014 10: 11
      If you look at it pragmatically, let the Export Pipe be sold to Russia.
    66. tokin1959
      0
      16 May 2014 10: 11
      yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........

      Russian - give me money, then I’ll pay you for gas.
      And with your money, Russian, I will kill other Russians, otherwise I have nothing to carry out the ATO.
      Gilyaks have nothing to build on.

      original...................
    67. +2
      16 May 2014 10: 12
      Got high again in the parliament...
    68. Artem1967
      +2
      16 May 2014 10: 13
      Russia was ready to provide money (and had already bought the first tranche of Ukrainian bonds) for a different government and a different policy.
      These b.a.r.a.n.a.m - not a penny in debt! Let them eat Nuland cookies!
    69. +2
      16 May 2014 10: 14
      Dream independent...
    70. Rubmolot
      +2
      16 May 2014 10: 15
      And everything is voluntary...
    71. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 17
      A country of unafraid idiots! Are they measuring by themselves? Or do they consider everyone around, including us in the main, to be completely sick? We are not in Yeltsin’s times now, the time of idiots has passed, only they have frozen. Guys, contact Kashchenko, they will quickly and painlessly return the last straight gyrus in your turnips through an enema, and if you wish, they will even make a couple of bends as a bonus! laughing
    72. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 18
      totally crazy!
    73. Ussuriets
      0
      16 May 2014 10: 21
      And eat the candy and... sit down! This is Ukraine’s favorite task.
    74. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 21
      Will they really agree!? belay
      This is money for nothing!!!
    75. Dromac
      0
      16 May 2014 10: 21
      Yeah, arrogance is the second happiness..... No one gives me money, what a shame... It's called jumped.... And now, in theory, in order to get at least something, you need to fulfill certain conditions, for which the outskirts are not ready, and will not agree to this. The outskirts will soon crumble and all the neighbors will take their toll...
    76. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 21
      A country of unafraid idiots! Are they measuring by themselves? Or do they consider everyone around, including us in the main, to be completely sick? We are not in Yeltsin’s times now, the time of idiots has passed, only they have frozen. Guys, contact Kashchenko, they will quickly and painlessly return the last straight gyrus in your turnips through an enema, and if you wish, they will even make a couple of bends as a bonus! laughing Highly recommend!
    77. +1
      16 May 2014 10: 23
      God, how scary it is to live! I'm afraid of TV, the whole world is going crazy, the virus of idiocy has swept through many countries. The only oasis of prudence is our RUSSIA!!!
    78. Dreamer
      0
      16 May 2014 10: 27
      Max. what the junta can get from Russia is a set of pencils for rolling up lips)))
    79. KOH
      +1
      16 May 2014 10: 28
      A slap fell from the moon... belay
    80. +2
      16 May 2014 10: 28
      Interesting approach
    81. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 29
      Truly, the arrogance of the Ukrainians is limitless! “You give us money, then pump in the gas, and in the meantime we’ll spend the money and take a loan from you to pay for the gas.” And this is called “normal cooperation”! I don’t even have the strength to be angry - just homeric laughter! laughing wassat laughing
      1. 0
        16 May 2014 10: 58
        By the way, they have someone to learn from:
        France should refuse to sell Mistral helicopter carriers to Russia, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf told reporters on Thursday.

        “We have repeatedly expressed our concern (with the deal). We don’t think now is the right time to pursue a deal,” Harf said, RIA Novosti reported.

        Source: http://warfiles.ru/show-56576-gosdep-franciya-dolzhna-otkazatsya-ot-prodazhi-mis
        traley-rossii.html
        And the money, meanwhile, has been paid.
    82. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 32
      It looks like everything is very bad... The curators thought they would give the money... But “that” money goes to their own campaigns, and the ready-made rations are stolen. There they will only give you a loan “in kind”.
    83. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 34
      To paraphrase love lyrics:

      Maidan comes and goes
      And I always want to eat... laughing
    84. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 34
      The insanity grew stronger! )
    85. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 35
      With a request to “give me money” - to the EU and the USA. They seemed to promise...
      Eh!!! Kakly missed the moment... Both Biden and Brenan came... Biden was put in the “red corner”, they reported on their work, they should have asked for money right away, otherwise the “guests” left, but there was no money... It’s sad.
    86. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 36
      They say we owe you money? Then you give us two billion and we will pay you back, and everything will be even. This is a lobotomy and there is no cure, it can only be corrected through surgery.
    87. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 36
      Gentlemen, you can grin for a long time at the impudence of the Ukrainian junta.. But we must not forget that the majority of the population are simple hard workers living below the poverty line.. The Maidan troubles primarily affected these segments of the population.
      The issue needs to be resolved!!!! I hope our government will show wisdom to begin a dialogue regarding our further cooperation. At the very least, this may somehow slow down the development of the fire of a full-scale war...
      Turn around the war, we really need it!!!!
      I am sure that the mattress makers have started a more vile game. AS an option, dragging us into a fratricidal war,,,,, to sort out the quiet Syrian problem..
    88. Dreamer
      +2
      16 May 2014 10: 37
      Here's what I think about it:
    89. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 38
      Pay us a tranche of 2 billion, as promised in January, we will immediately pay this money for the debt on gas.
      Typical KHUTSPA, only this time it’s Ukrainian. One can feel the influence of the “children of Zion” - Kolomoisky and company. This needs to be turned out this way - first you give us the money, and then maybe we’ll pay you for your gas!
    90. +1
      16 May 2014 10: 40
      Well, I didn’t expect it, I didn’t expect it. I don’t even know what to call it, to suggest it (.........) - the cockroaches in their heads give a standing ovation.
    91. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 41
      So let them sell Donbass and Lugansk, they’re already overdue anyway
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      1. 0
        16 May 2014 10: 57
        Quote: Cayman Gena
        let them take it from the freak Kolomoisky if he gives it.

        Well.. If he doesn’t give it, let them take it themselves! Or is it too small a gut? laughing
    93. sidprokaznik
      0
      16 May 2014 10: 43
      Quote: strannik595
      you can give, but ......... from you-the recognition of New Russia, the withdrawal of troops, the disarmament of all radicals and the national guard ....... then we’ll think about it, otherwise many of you who want to suck a paw off a bear

      Novorossiya will manage without their recognition, the troops themselves will withdraw and disband when they want to eat, the radicals and the National Guard will receive crap from their own people sooner or later. But they are unlikely to be able to prove that they know how to do what they say and say what they think, because they lie continuously. Therefore, I believe that even a paw sucking, much less a loan, will not take place.
    94. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 50
      what kind of brothers they are to us, after their coming out, they are not even our sisters
    95. 0
      16 May 2014 10: 51
      Now you should go into the crack of the goat. You shouldn’t have spat in the well from which you drank. Are you aiming for Geyropa? That’s where you’ll look for the money.
    96. +1
      16 May 2014 10: 52
      An anecdote in the subject.
      The Minister of Justice of Ukraine wrote on his Facebook:
      - In fact, Ukraine has reached the finish line regarding the issue of a visa-free regime with the European Union.
      - What about the European Union?
      - The European Union has not yet reached the start.
    97. +1
      16 May 2014 10: 55
      Theoretically, it is possible if we return Yanukovych, and everything else, to the moment of refusal to integrate into the EU. And put all the Nazis in prison for life.
    98. -1
      16 May 2014 10: 58
      There are no words... This is impudence... Borzota. and in Africa.
    99. HAM
      0
      16 May 2014 11: 03
      Yes, this is no longer cunning, and not even IMPRESSION, this is something from psychiatry.
      It would be nice if the money went into business, otherwise they spend it on KILLING their fellow citizens.
      Cynicism, insanity in one bottle - give us money, otherwise there’s nothing to kill you for. There are no more words...
    100. 0
      16 May 2014 11: 04
      We need to be more far-sighted gentlemen!!!! If Ukrainians need our help. The most reasonable step is to sit down at the negotiating table.. Isn’t it clear that there is a small chance not to give up Ukraine in Europe!!!!. Which of you is interested!!!!???

      Dialogue is needed!! Considering how many times we have turned one cheek after the other....
      They will turn away and say Nah...it's never too late!!!

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