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We are waiting for the MC on the Ukrainian land ...

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Judging by some signs, the decision on the fate of Ukraine is almost made or has already been made. The junta is too much of a lot of nonsense, and the UN, and indeed the West, can no longer control these nonsense.


Everyone understands that the Ukrainian pseudo-leaders brought the country into such a hole that it is simply impossible to get out of it. If even a month and a half ago it was possible to talk about unity, then now such a conversation would not cause anything but profanity. And in the west of the country, and in the east. Ukrainians do not want to live in a single state. It is the Ukrainians. Regardless of ethnicity.

The Ukrainian Rada, in connection with the yesterday’s demarche of the “Party of Regions” and the Communist Party, has practically become an illegitimate body. Nobody has even a mechanical majority today. Even the hawks of the new government speak of violations, of the arbitrariness of the authorities. Let timidly, but also on ukrTV appear frames, which are very difficult to comment on as an attack by armed separatists. Remember the capture BMP.

Yes, and in the Western, including American, the media are increasingly heard sound thoughts. They are increasingly talking about fascism.

But the use of helicopters with UN symbols was probably the last straw.

The successes of the army of the Southeast also play their important role in this process. Although the information from there is quite contradictory, but it is noticeable that the army controls the situation. Ukrainians have become much more circumspect. Party "Freedom" in a panic. The question of the use of the Slavyansk and Kramatorsk bombings is being seriously considered.

And the last. Putin's statement on gas and his letter yesterday. Europeans understand that there is no bluff. So, Russia will fulfill the promise. And this, in turn, will hit Europeans precisely. Gas will begin to steal. But Putin warned about this a month ago. Risk their economies can not afford the government of any country.

And what decision will be made soon? I think we should expect the UN resolution on the deployment of peacekeepers to Ukraine. The decision to create a buffer zone between the army of Ukraine and the army of the South-East. Junta is a must. Otherwise, today the Ukrainian army will start to suffer heavy losses. They simply cannot resist. Explosives can work against partisan tactics, and they, the so-called National Guard, are a hodgepodge of completely unprepared people. Spetsov almost gone. And those who were driven by threats to the ATO, will not seriously fight.

So, the introduction of peacekeepers will give two plus junta. Holding elections and saving the image of the government. But all this can be done in one case: if the peacekeepers from the Russian Federation are not included in the composition of the IS. With the rest you can agree.

Hence the task of the diplomacy of the Russian Federation, and to a large extent our representative to the UN, Mr. Churkin, in no case prevent the creation of the MC without the participation of the Russian Federation. The buffer should be, including ours.

The appearance of such a distinction will solve two problems - we will allow elections in parts of Ukraine (and we will not succeed in preventing them), but at the same time let us give an opportunity to strengthen our positions in the Southeast, to complete the formation of legitimate government bodies, military units and power structures.

The scenario, which we talked about last November, is implemented in strict accordance with the forecasts. Almost the second part of Ukraine was separated. It remains to wait for the collapse of the West and the Center. And we get what the Western countries wanted. Instead of one big, potentially strong country, two will appear on the map of Europe so far, and in the future three small, pocket states, without a real economy, without a real army, without own interests. The Yugoslav version in a slightly softer version.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 16 May 2014 08: 30
    +12
    Apparently, this is the most acceptable option. At least for now.
    1. Canep
      Canep 16 May 2014 08: 31
      +20
      It looks like a new Yugoslavia. It is only desirable that the peacekeepers in South-Ural Military District be from Russia of Belarus or Kazakhstan.
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 16 May 2014 09: 03
        +14
        Quote: Canep
        It looks like a new Yugoslavia.


        if only the scenario is similar, but here the incident happened, Russia is no longer the same, the enemy is already at the gate.
        1. older
          older 16 May 2014 10: 11
          +7
          Quote: seller trucks
          , but the opportunity has happened, Russia is not the same, the enemy is already at the gates.

          So what? Do you think Russia needs a large and constantly conflicting Ukraine? Russia needs Lviv and the entire western part? I doubt Putin will agree to secession of the western part to preserve the center and the east ...
          1. seller trucks
            seller trucks 16 May 2014 12: 47
            +1
            I wrote this belay ?
      2. igor_m_p
        igor_m_p 16 May 2014 09: 26
        +11
        Quote: Canep
        It is only desirable that the peacekeepers in South-Ural Military District be from Russia of Belarus or Kazakhstan.

        The decision to introduce the MS is made by the UN Security Council. Russia has a veto. If the composition of the MS does not suit Russia, Churkin will simply use this right, so that without us MS is hardly able to enter Ukraine.
        1. older
          older 16 May 2014 10: 13
          +5
          Quote: igor_m_p
          The decision to introduce the MS is made by the UN Security Council.

          Namely, i.e. the alignment will be approximately 3 to 2 ... but the veto will decide everything. And the decision will be made before May 18. Otherwise, the DPR raises the question of joining the Russian Federation and that's all ... More precisely, everything will again depend on Putin laughing
      3. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 16 May 2014 11: 12
        +6
        It is only desirable that the peacekeepers in South-Ural Military District be from Russia of Belarus or Kazakhstan.
        A bit wrong. The second Yugoslavia is a de facto failure for Russia. For any performance.
        One way or another, it is necessary to bring the matter to the purge of the putschists throughout Ukraine. After that - a referendum on the federation. With a mandatory right of choice for all subjects to non-entry into it.
        And Peacekeepers ... Only from the CSTO. Not a single person from other countries should be.
        1. Echelon
          Echelon 16 May 2014 11: 22
          0
          it is perfectly acceptable for peacekeepers to come from such NATO member countries as Italy, Spain, and France. They are all pro-Russian, and most importantly, they all need our gas.
          1. Canep
            Canep 16 May 2014 15: 09
            0
            Quote: Echelon
            it is perfectly acceptable for peacekeepers to come from such NATO member countries as Italy, Spain, and France.
            These let western Ukraine pacify. Let the Poles and the Gypsies at least climb there.
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        3. older
          older 16 May 2014 13: 17
          0
          Quote: abrakadabre
          For any performance.
          One way or another, it is necessary to bring the matter to the purge of the putschists throughout Ukraine.

          How do you imagine this? The most powerful Soviet Union, which has the best and most efficient army in the world, has been picking Bandera out of their caches for two decades. And note, on your territory, and not on the territory of another state. And the rest of your comment does not apply to Russia at all .This is already a matter of Ukrainians. And a referendum, and everything else.
          Quote: abrakadabre
          There should not be a single person from other countries. Russia, as it is not regrettable, but already 23 of the year, as another country .. Alas ...
    2. Wels75
      Wels75 16 May 2014 08: 32
      +8
      The most correct option FOR RESCUE LIVES OF PEACEFUL CITIZENS AND STOP THE BATTLE ACTION. but nothing more !!!
      1. Kuvabatake
        Kuvabatake 16 May 2014 08: 54
        +4
        Who will stop there? And for the sake of such "little things" the West will not lift an ass. They want peace ... and preferably all.
        1. older
          older 16 May 2014 10: 16
          +4
          Quote: Kuvabatake
          They need peace ... and preferably all.

          good Beautifully said. Bravo! But about the whole world. The desire is something they have grown, but what is typical with the belly ... They can’t run anymore, and even fight with someone who can answer too ... fellow
      2. Cherdak
        Cherdak 16 May 2014 12: 27
        +2
        Quote: Veles75
        The most correct option FOR RESCUE LIVES OF PEACEFUL CITIZENS AND STOP THE BATTLE ACTION. but nothing more !!!


        And who can convince inch democratic leader?
        1. Tatarus
          Tatarus 16 May 2014 13: 49
          +2
          Chimpanzees have glimpses of the mind in their eyes
    3. acute
      acute 16 May 2014 12: 19
      +1
      This is an acceptable option, but not feasible. Two peacekeepers will not be deployed in the next month. Will give to hold "free" elections. But then the country will be divided into parts
  2. Canep
    Canep 16 May 2014 08: 30
    +5
    The Ukrainian Rada, in connection with yesterday’s demarche of the "Party of Regions" and the Communist Party, has practically turned into an illegitimate body. Even no one has a mechanical majority today.
    I don’t think that for them this will be some kind of obstacle, there has long been no legitimacy there.
    1. older
      older 16 May 2014 10: 18
      +4
      Quote: Canep
      I do not think that for them it will be some kind of obstacle

      Let me remind you of the events immediately after ... Deputies were pushed into the Rada by all possible means. They were pushed in order to gain at least some legitimate majority that could accept something.
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 16 May 2014 11: 13
      +1
      Even no one has a mechanical majority today.
      What is it like? Are pravoseki scufflers tired of mussing parliamentarians at meetings?
  3. from punk
    from punk 16 May 2014 08: 32
    +2
    Well, just accept the resolution, we will be there very first. And try to expel or protest.
  4. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 16 May 2014 08: 33
    +10
    In order to help Ukraine, they need money, a lot of money. And they will not be able to give, and there will be nobody soon! Ukraine will go bankrupt, and the West will not help bankrupt, business and nothing personal! Previously, they seemed to be hoping for a war between Russia and Ukraine (they could well cut down the dibs) But the cunning GDP of again deceived!
  5. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 16 May 2014 08: 35
    +6
    Something all peacekeeping activities end badly, where there is the presence of troops from the NATO countries.
    1. Thompson
      Thompson 16 May 2014 09: 17
      +4
      They are more mythological! And their troops are there for their interests!
      1. 0255
        0255 16 May 2014 11: 34
        +3
        And what's the use of the UN? Something that does not greatly prevent the UN from war. Like the League of Nations did not stop Hitler in the 1930s
  6. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 16 May 2014 08: 36
    +11
    In another ho.hlam will not get along. The main mistake was to let zapadentsev into the government, except that they could not do anything to bile!
    1. MG42
      MG42 16 May 2014 13: 10
      +3
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      The main mistake was to let zapadentsev into the government, except that they could not do anything to bile!

      Why are they capable of much up to the killings, yesterday there was an initiative to officially allow the shooting of militias and sympathizers of the DPR and LPR to private individuals, and to withdraw the shell case in these areas, simply no one will investigate the accident
      Oleg Makhnitsky = Prosecutor General of Ukraine, a native of the nationalist party "Svoboda", friend of Tyagnibok, what kind of justice can we talk about
    2. older
      older 16 May 2014 13: 21
      +1
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      The main mistake was to let zapadentsev into the government,

      Those. you stand for the same thing that the junta now stands for ... The only difference is the replacement of zapadentsevs with quilted jackets ... Sorry, but this is utter nonsense. Separating the country's inhabitants into citizens and non-citizens is more likely for the Baltic states than for normal countries.
  7. Egoza
    Egoza 16 May 2014 08: 52
    +7
    the introduction of peacekeepers will give two pluses to the junta. Conducting elections and saving the image of the government.

    I do not think that the junta will give pluses ... and the elections will be in question.

    Two leading American political analysts on Thursday called for the postponement of the upcoming presidential elections in Ukraine, saying that in an environment where the country is "falling apart before our eyes," it is almost impossible to hold them with convincing results.

    Eugene Rumer, Director of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a Russian-Eurasian program, and Andrew Weiss, vice president of the foundation for research, expressed their views in an article published in Politico Magazine.

    “Ukraine is falling apart before our eyes,” they write. “The crisis is increasingly reminiscent of a low-grade civil war. The reckless violence that is often captured on amateur videos is becoming commonplace.”

    According to them, "there is no doubt" that the referendums held last Sunday in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions are illegitimate. At the same time, they are "a clear sign that separatism has already taken root in the region, and any attempt to reunite Ukraine will be a monumental task that will take many years to complete."

    "The main obstacle in retreating from the edge of the abyss is chaos," the authors of the article note. "For many regions of southeastern Ukraine, the truth of life has become that no one knows who runs the country and, it seems, no one controls it."

    One can only guess how the May 25 general elections will take place in such an atmosphere, Rumer and Weiss write. "Perhaps the elections will even serve as an impetus for new clashes," they suggest.

    The authors propose a four-stage program, which, in their opinion, will lead Ukraine away from the edge of the abyss.

    “Step one. It must be admitted that the situation in southeastern Ukraine today is no longer a consequence of some Russian trick. The matter is much more complicated,” they write.

    “Step two is to stop digging a hole for ourselves. At the very least, the US and Europe must admit that their sanctions will not help solve the Ukrainian problems or remove Russia,” the authors continue.

    "Step three. Carefully study the possibility of postponing the May 25 elections. It is difficult to understand how, in the current circumstances, they can be conducted so that their results are credible," they insist.

    “Step four. An open dialogue without any restrictions with the participation of all parties to the conflict on how to move on,” write Rumer and Weiss. “What Ukraine really needs is a gradual process, within which the elections will be postponed to a later date. when constitutional reforms, parliamentary elections and a national referendum on the division of powers between Kiev and the regions will be held. "
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 16 May 2014 09: 11
      +8
      Quote: Egoza

      Two leading American political analysts on Thursday called for the postponement of the upcoming presidential elections in Ukraine, saying that in an environment where the country is "falling apart before our eyes," it is almost impossible to hold them with convincing results.

      Who needs them in the junta, these "convincing results"!
      There is an irresistible desire to "tsaruvati" by all means, that's the whole story ...
      Could not get hold of the whole territoryand yes with her!
      At least in pieces, but steer!

      DREAMERS SHARPERS...
    2. andj61
      andj61 16 May 2014 09: 25
      +7
      And if the question is posed differently: what does the introduction of peacekeepers bring to the Southeast?
      In my opinion, this will only be an attempt to preserve the existing status quo. The clashes will continue, and there will be an escalation of the conflict, drawing more and more new regions into it. We must not allow the presence of troops of NATO countries, and the Kiev junta will never agree (if asked) to the presence of Russian troops.
      If (or when) the Southeast (so far it is the DPR and LPR) manages to remove the bloodsuckers and the Nazi guard from its territory, the army’s subordination will be in full swing, and this army will be removed automatically so as not to strengthen the opposing side.
      In practice, it is immediately necessary to form the armed forces of the new republics, and indeed to build a state.
      Then the question of peacekeepers can only be in terms of protecting the new state. formations.
      Perhaps the Russian leadership still hopes to confine itself to Crimea and a neutral federal Ukraine, but, apparently, the point of no return has already been passed - this could be agreed in April, right now, after Odessa and Mariupol, it is hardly possible to force the Donbass to remain part of even an updated Ukraine.
    3. oblako
      oblako 16 May 2014 10: 51
      +3
      Western analysts are only now beginning to guess that "everything is much more complicated", which means that the efforts they made before to change the situation in Ukraine were dictated by their incompetence? Are they experimenting with us? - it didn't work ... we have to try differently ... Should we endure this? Gentlemen, it's time to get rid of illusions. There is a war going on, a war by other means. No matter how small Galicia turns out to be as a result of the split of Ukraine, it will not give up territorial claims and "imperial" ambitions, you listen to their rhetoric, which means there will be no peace. Terry ideological Benderism will not allow neighbors to live peacefully. And she never signed surrender with us. So appreciate the wisdom of I.V. Stalin - "if the enemy does not surrender, he is destroyed ..." Of course, this is not humane from the modern standpoint, but "to force peace" will have to be, and the sooner the better. Maybe in order to preserve Ukraine for the Ukrainians, if they certainly want this ... (the latter, of course, is a utopia, there is no one to sacrifice their interests for this, and God forbid that this would be my personal delusion)
  8. mamont5
    mamont5 16 May 2014 08: 55
    +5
    "But all this can be done in one case: if peacekeepers from the Russian Federation are not included in the MS. You can agree with the rest."

    This is so, but I don’t think that in this case Russia will allow itself to be squeezed. Not that case. Too high stakes.
    1. andj61
      andj61 16 May 2014 09: 43
      +3
      Decisions on the creation, composition, use and financing of the UN peacekeeping force are made by the UN Security Council. It is impossible to do this without Russia.
  9. ksv500
    ksv500 16 May 2014 08: 57
    +9
    The introduction of MS, even with our participation, is not in Russia's interests! MS at all times intended to fix the situation! If we fix it now, we will lose most of Ukraine!
  10. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 16 May 2014 09: 01
    +3
    If peacekeepers are introduced into Ukraine, then they must be deployed along the border of the Southeast with Ukraine to divide the warring parties, and again all this will be one-sided as in Kosovo.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 16 May 2014 11: 17
      +2
      If peacekeepers are introduced to Ukraine, then they must be located along the border of the South-East with Ukraine
      Fuck with two. Only along the western border (the former border of the USSR).
  11. Sultan
    Sultan 16 May 2014 09: 01
    +4
    About P. indosov in the proposed scenario, comrade Putin will not go ... Why be content with little? Grand Prix Only! Otherwise, the game is not worth the candle, especially since the game on our field is against us and imposed on us ...
  12. Begemot
    Begemot 16 May 2014 09: 04
    +4
    Apparently, Ukrainians did not deserve their own separate large and strong state.
    It is impossible to create a country based on the ideology of guilt in all of its neighbors, there must be more complex and constructive fundamental ideas, and it is clearly not enough to "branch off" for this.
    1. acute
      acute 16 May 2014 12: 26
      +2
      Victory over Kiev with payment of indemnity. this is of course a joke, but there is a share in every joke ......
  13. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 16 May 2014 09: 05
    +3
    How long have you believed in fairy tales about good uncles? Peacekeepers are just like in Yugoslavia, the game will be one-goal, and the private battalion has already pulled itself up from Dnepropetrovsk ...
  14. bulvas
    bulvas 16 May 2014 09: 13
    +5
    There is a suspicion that the supply of alternative gas to Europe, which Obama spoke of, is indeed one of the goals of the events in Ukraine.

    Perhaps the plan was to organize the production of shale gas, the main deposits of which are located just in the Donetsk region. You can use the existing pipe, Russia shuts off its gas, and the Americans begin to pump it from Ukraine.

    Biden's son and Kerry family friend join the board of directors of a Ukrainian gas company
    "The son of Vice President Joe Biden and a close friend of the stepson of US Secretary of State John Kerry have joined the board of directors of the Ukrainian gas company, which belongs to a former high-ranking security and energy official in the government of ousted President Viktor Yanukovych," reports The Wall Street Journal.

    "This move has attracted attention given the official role of Biden and Kerry in diplomacy towards Ukraine, in which the United States is supporting the pro-Western protesters who toppled the Yanukovych government in February," wrote the article's authors Paul Sonn and James W. Grimaldi.


    In addition to them, the Poles, the sons of politicians themselves, also enter.

    This information goes very well with this version.

    In addition, Americans make good money by supplying equipment and technological solutions for the production of shale gas.

    The new authorities will easily solve environmental issues in favor of production, while the ecology of the eastern regions of Ukraine and the adjacent regions of Russia, especially the Rostov region, suffers.
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 16 May 2014 09: 37
      +2
      here is the confirmation:

      http://politobzor.net/show-21910-ukrainskiy-chernozem-prinesut-v-zhertvu-energet
      icheskim-ambiciyam-ssha.html
  15. 120352
    120352 16 May 2014 09: 16
    +2
    The main thing is that these MCs do not turn out to be the US or NATO army or, more fun, the "right sector" under the auspices of the UN = NATO. Otherwise, the US plans will be implemented, and the interests of Russia and Novorossiya trampled upon.
  16. sledge
    sledge 16 May 2014 09: 20
    +3
    Peacekeepers will not help.
  17. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 16 May 2014 09: 28
    +3
    I doubt that MS is a realistic option for Ukraine. Entering is possible when there is a clear boundary: red on the right, blue on the left, otherwise the genocide of the Reds will begin on the territory of the blue and vice versa. All this nonsense in Ukraine stretches while the military is stupid, trying to build from themselves angels, which are nothing to do with (and most still adhere to this point of view).
  18. Nikolav
    Nikolav 16 May 2014 09: 33
    +4
    "So, the introduction of peacekeepers will give two advantages to the junta. Holding elections and saving the government's image. But all this can be done in one case: if peacekeepers from the Russian Federation are not included in the MS. You can agree with the rest."

    The time has gone. As I recall, the elections are scheduled for May 25. What peacekeepers? With the cumbersome UN bureaucratic machine, they will appear there no earlier than six months later. The only exception is the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, which may be there after the decision is made at least tomorrow. Elections must be rescheduled. Again, peacekeepers are likely to stand along the Pipe. The rest of the international community is not e.
    1. andj61
      andj61 16 May 2014 09: 46
      +4
      The introduction of the UNMIS is a statement of armed conflict, the junta and the west until May 25 to admit this is not in the habit. Although, after this date, nothing really will change.
  19. mackonya
    mackonya 16 May 2014 09: 40
    +1
    I do not think that the Peacekeeping contingent will be formed from NATO forces, since the militia of the South-East does not pose a threat to other regions (they only want the Armed Forces of Ukraine not to be in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions), and they are through their "fools" through the "Kiev authorities "more or less in control.
  20. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 16 May 2014 09: 43
    +2
    And what will the peacekeepers do, after all, the Nazis from the "Right Sector" already have a bunch of small arms, anti-aircraft and anti-tank systems in their hands, that they are UN peacekeepers, they will shoot at them. To end this mess can either Russia toughly restore order or the United States by blocking funding to the Nazis. Here the Americans will definitely not go for it. There, and "concessions" are distributed among rich families, "Serdyukovschina" are being bred. No, Russia is better off just isolating the loyal part of Ukraine, albeit under the guise of an "independent" state, with subsequent accession, and the rest of Ukraine will most likely be torn to pieces by the "civilized" community.
  21. silver169
    silver169 16 May 2014 09: 44
    +3
    A purulent abscess called urcaine should be opened immediately! His healthy, sensible part is Novorossiya, we ask you to come home to Russia, the rest of the rot and infection in the cesspool of history!
  22. Turkir
    Turkir 16 May 2014 09: 44
    +2
    UN, all this time is being led by the United States. And now, this UN will decide to introduce peacekeeping forces.
    At the request of the right sector, Israel, USA.
    And what countries do you think the "peacekeepers" will come from? I bet the Poles will be the first.
    Oh, they are famous peacekeepers. Since 1612, these peacekeepers roamed gangs in Russia.
    It will be great as in Kosovo. The right sector, in the form of unidentified persons, will kill the unwanted, and the peacekeepers will disarm the "aggressive" Russians.
    Funny picture. Just top class.
  23. Arkan
    Arkan 16 May 2014 09: 44
    +4
    A farce called "Nezalezhnosti" is coming to an end. At the beginning of June, the last act will begin, where the "main heroes" will pack the dudes with the honestly acquired. Peacekeepers are needed, polite, in a typical Crimean uniform.
  24. bistrov.
    bistrov. 16 May 2014 09: 50
    +5
    I do not agree with the author. Firstly, the option that he draws is not acceptable for both the United States and Russia. The United States wanted to get completely Ukraine, with a puppet, pocket government. Russia wants to get the entire South-East with its strategic position, industry, loyal A special role is played by Odessa and Nikolaev, which make it possible to close the remaining Ukraine's access to the sea and solve the problem of Transnistria and Moldova. By taking control of the South-East of Ukraine, Russia essentially recreates the power of the USSR. In this case, joining the rest of the post-Soviet republics to Russia is simple a matter of time. Evropa, of course, would go for the author's version, but who would allow her? She became a hostage of her short-sighted policy, allowing the forcible removal of Yanukovych from power, thereby releasing the “genie from the bottle.” Putin skillfully used this mistake of hers, recreating subsequent events. Now even the “election” of a new president, in my opinion, will not help the current situations. The newly formed republics have directly stated that they will not participate and will not recognize the presidential elections, which are nothing more than a farce. And indeed it is. I suppose that after the establishment of power and the formation of the army in Novorossiya, it will launch an offensive on the rest of the territory of Ukraine. Whether this is so, time will tell.
    1. UREC
      UREC 16 May 2014 11: 11
      +2
      I agree with you, but then the creatures in the Rada themselves will request protection from the MS. Not to give responsibility to these corrupt entities is one of the most important tasks. The testimony in court of these scum once again will open to PEOPLE in the world what the US Department of State is.
  25. Belarus
    Belarus 16 May 2014 10: 04
    +5
    It seems to me that everything will only become tense in Ukraine. Why? And you yourself look, because everything is already divided. The son of J. Biden is already included in the management (I do not remember the name) of the company which will be engaged in the production of shale gas and gas in general in Ukraine and especially in the Donetsk region where the main reserves.
    And as for Slavyansk, there very large reserves of shale gas, by the way, contracts were concluded with either British BP or another company for its production.The money is already paid by the junta and expecting nothing good from it.
    And what is the extraction of shale gas, everyone perfectly understands - dead land and nothing suitable for consumption, nothing.
    So think or think out what could happen next!
    Personally, I want to wish all the rebels against fascism strong nerves. Strength of spirit and wisdom in the fight against this evil!
    1. Nikolav
      Nikolav 16 May 2014 10: 39
      +2
      The technology of shale gas production (the basic principle) is the injection of a huge amount of water underground to squeeze it out. Dnipro will have to turn it, in the best Soviet traditions.)))
  26. buzer
    buzer 16 May 2014 10: 10
    +2
    It is doubtful that peacekeepers will be able to ensure stability in Ukraine. After all, Ukraine was brought to its current state not by some external destructive force, but by themselves. In the absence of a single nation-forming nation, they hope that Europeans, Americans or peacekeepers are stupid to solve their problems. They had a way out of the current situation, that is, federalization. But no, they wanted a unitary state, and with a Nazi worldview ... Once upon a time, the idea of ​​internationalism (not tolerance) made the Soviet Union a world superpower. So no MS will save Ukraine from collapse. Even if they put the entire Kiev junta against the wall. Other similar ones will come. I personally do not see such personalities there who could unite the country and all the peoples living in it ...
    1. thinker
      thinker 16 May 2014 11: 22
      +1
      After all, Ukraine was brought to its current state not by some external destructive force, but by themselves.
      Oh really? How much has been written, rewritten! hi
  27. Belarus
    Belarus 16 May 2014 10: 22
    +4
    Found an interesting article on the topic:"Shale punitive operation", please read it and you yourself will understand a lot and it will become clear to you what will happen next!

    link:http://svpressa.ru/politic/article/87568/
  28. Valter1364
    Valter1364 16 May 2014 10: 39
    +2
    To follow the path of introducing MS to Ukraine is to go against their own interests and artificially support the life of an incompetent organism called Ukraine.
  29. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 16 May 2014 10: 42
    +2
    If some of these small pocket states choose the right course of development, they will have both a real economy and a real army. And besides, there is a very weak friendly army in the neighborhood.
  30. Sandor Rado
    Sandor Rado 16 May 2014 10: 43
    -16%
    The most acceptable option: the Russian Federation leaves Ukraine alone (leaving Crimea for itself as a prize), withdraws from Ukraine its "supporters of federalization, Girkin-Strelkov and others, Russian television stops broadcasting and a week later there is peace and quiet.
    1. Valter1364
      Valter1364 16 May 2014 11: 06
      +4
      It may be acceptable for you, but not for Russia. As for the rest ... in Ukraine, the state of rest is hardly possible. Crimea is not a prize. Crimea is a logical and only possible, fait accompli in the current situation. If all the separatists are withdrawn from Ukraine, then they need to be deployed somewhere. Russia, a large country, but a one-time population of 12-15 million for the Russian Federation is also a very difficult task. And about the television of the Russian Federation - what did it not please you? The same as everyone else, only they lie a little less than the rest.
      So it turns out that all your wishes are past the checkout.

      In the last phrase, in my opinion, there is still a grain of truth, "there is peace and tranquility" .... there is something in this cemetery ... if it is attributed to the Ukrainian junta, perhaps in this context it is necessary to agree with you.
    2. UREC
      UREC 16 May 2014 11: 12
      +1
      Are you probably in the 3rd grade?
    3. bistrov.
      bistrov. 16 May 2014 11: 56
      +2
      Quote: Sandor Rado
      The most acceptable option: the Russian Federation left Ukraine alone ...

      Your words should be understood as follows: stop the diplomatic support of the Russian population in the eastern and southern regions, who have not recognized the illegal Kiev power and are fighting for their legal rights, and she (this power) will drown these areas in blood with the help of weapons and fascist elements? It will not happen!
    4. Nikolav
      Nikolav 16 May 2014 14: 05
      +1
      The most acceptable option: Kiev, or rather Washington, leaves the South-East alone, leaving Yaytsenyuk, Turchinov and Tymoshenko as a gift, brings Right Sector militants to their historical homeland, organizing a reservation in Galicia for the Galitsians, dismissing the corrupt and deceitful a journalist from zhovto-blakitny media, begs Moscow to bring in peacekeepers to restore order and ensure the rule of law in the territories located at least 100 meters further than the Verkhovna Rada and other government institutions in the center of Kiev. Then peace and quiet will be established. And then not immediately.
      1. Sandor Rado
        Sandor Rado 16 May 2014 14: 26
        -2
        I will answer all my commentators. It is foolish to deny that this whole circus in "Novorossiya" was arranged by our Russian Federation. Moreover, it has arranged it and now the roofing felts do not know what to do, the roofing felts are thinking what to do, but unlike the Crimea, they do not introduce troops, leaving the Russians to be punished by the "junta". True, the "junta" is somehow strange, it does not take hostages, the civilian population does not kill (by the way, one anti-fascist country did not stand on ceremony with Chechens who did not want to live in it, and it is not necessary to talk about militants, the civilian population suffered and about the rebuilt Grozny with our money. ) Or is this a question, why the elections on May 25 in the Russian Federation were declared illegitimate in advance, and the referendums "under the fire of the junta" held in street tents - are respected by the Russian Federation? If the Russian-speaking population of these regions tried to secede, then everything would have happened long ago, and while the ball is ruled by bandits, supporters of federalization, and a fooled population.
        1. sv68
          sv68 16 May 2014 14: 43
          0
          Shanodorado, are you really that narrow-minded or pretending to be a wallop? get out of here on a happy censor and so pray to all the Kivsky criminals
        2. Nikolav
          Nikolav 16 May 2014 14: 58
          +1
          Yeah, call a spade a spade. You probably wanted to say separatists? And your real name is not Makarevich, by chance?
    5. sv68
      sv68 16 May 2014 14: 37
      0
      Shandorado, you do not broadcast here on behalf of the right-wingers for an hour? otherwise it’s like theirs, only a veiled type I invented and not the owner said to write exactly that.
    6. Penzyac
      Penzyac 16 May 2014 15: 17
      0
      Quote: Sandor Rado
      The most acceptable option: the Russian Federation leaves Ukraine alone (leaving Crimea for itself as a prize), withdraws from Ukraine its "supporters of federalization, Girkin-Strelkov and others, Russian television stops broadcasting and a week later there is peace and quiet.

      Peace and quiet Bandera will be in the cemetery.
      By the way, Austria already sends humanitarian aid in the form of 10000 plastic coffins for you.
  31. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 16 May 2014 10: 53
    +2
    It is necessary to recognize that Ukraine is breaking up and not gluing it together, the South-East League will never live with zapadents and corrupt Kiev, then we are probably not stopping it, we should not stop this reality, we need to perceive this reality. All the policies of the USSR and Russia after the collapse of the Union show that the West will do everything to ruin us. All talk of partnership, colleagues, especially friendship, you can just bury a true face in Mariupol and Odessa, or rather, the grin of the West is understandable and does not cause self-esteem. The mistake of our government is that we are too carried away by rapprochement with the West, this is because we simply launched our domestic policy, and first of all, the ECONOMY, economic policy is simply mediocre, if not criminal. How the President will decide further is simply not clear to me. Foreign policy is a continuation of the domestic policy, but here we are not on two feet. Even in all Russian mass media, especially state ones, it is said that the Ukrainian leadership should listen to the opinion of its people, agree completely, but our GUIDE needs to listen to its people and restore order within the country, in the economy, in the law enforcement sphere, science and education, medicine . Poking others is easier than doing it at home.
  32. thinker
    thinker 16 May 2014 11: 29
    +2
    Everyone understands that Ukrainian pseudo-leaders led the country into such a hole that it is simply impossible to get out of it.

    You can’t say more precisely! The author’s forecast is quite real and acceptable! Plus good
  33. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 16 May 2014 11: 50
    +1
    It was necessary to take the east together with the Crimea. To bring heavy weapons there, to give the people increased pensions and salaries, at least once. To form at least some authorities, and then "under the pressure of the West" withdraw troops from the east. Everyone is shouting "peremog", no one would care about Crimea. But the east now would have heavy weapons, no authorities and at least an idea of ​​what to fight for, and who does not allow to live normally.
  34. SPQR-63
    SPQR-63 16 May 2014 12: 34
    +3
    What peacekeepers? What are we talking about? We will not allow NATO peacekeepers, America will not allow Russian peacekeepers in the United Nations. Dead end. Joint peacekeeping operation is finally fiction
  35. Giant thought
    Giant thought 16 May 2014 12: 34
    +3
    It is necessary to enable the army of the southeast to seize more territory so that the process of separation of other neighboring regions begins more actively, and then think about peacekeepers.
  36. Russ69
    Russ69 16 May 2014 12: 55
    +3
    No comment ...
  37. MG42
    MG42 16 May 2014 12: 56
    +3
    1. Today there was information that the Kiev junta completely blocked pensions and social benefits in Donetsk and Lugansk regions, the Minister said L. Denisova, ostensibly, for technical reasons, grandmothers cannot be delivered to collectors. Such a move is quite simple to calculate the mood of local residents, supposedly the MILES are to blame for their troubles with them and ask.
    2. Personnel cleansing in the Kharkov police loyal anti-Maidan replaced by maydaunov from other areas, this is evident after this video, when near the stella with a stone in the square on the square. The Liberty flag of Ukraine was torn, the St. George flag was hung instead, and the cops and the Golden Eagle were guarded.

  38. typhoon7
    typhoon7 16 May 2014 13: 00
    +1
    This question seemed to have already been raised, the Russian Foreign Ministry said then that there was no need for this. Their "peacekeepers" are already sitting along our borders, so let them stay there.
  39. DanSabaka
    DanSabaka 16 May 2014 15: 49
    0
    And why in Ukraine MS? Separate the warring parties? No! Russia does not need a division of Ukraine. On the contrary, it is necessary to unite Ukraine into a single, federal, non-aligned state. To sweep away all the right-wingers by filthy broom and unite the country. And MS are not good here ....
  40. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 16 May 2014 19: 14
    0
    Do not write in a glass!
    That's right, the peacekeeping forces must be multinational: the Russian Federation enters the southeast, Belarusian peacekeepers enter the west of Ukraine. Thank you all further, everyone is free.