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What will happen to Russia in the case of tough Western sanctions: the 4 scenario

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What will happen to Russia in the case of tough Western sanctions: the 4 scenario



Writing on the topic “What will happen to Russia as a result of the imposition of sanctions?” Is a thankless task. The likelihood of any significant sanctions against Russia is small: we live in a cynical world in which the sufferings of entire nations (including fraternal, including our own) are only causes, but not causes of government action, including, of course, and Russian The introduction of substantial sanctions against Russia is unprofitable for anyone, no matter whether they are “fair” or not.

And even if we assume that the United States, the EU, even the United Nations (which is already completely unrealistic) impose large-scale sanctions against Russia - not as an example wider than a ban on entry into the US by a handful of officials and members of the Ozero cooperative - all forecasts will be fantasies : types and forms of sanctions can be many. Moreover, it is impossible to predict how, under the conditions of sanctions, the leadership of Russia will act (and the most varied, including opposite, options are possible).

It remains to try to deal with the most obvious sanctions and predict the most logical options "answer." Those who formulate other sanctions and other answers may also be right.

Let's talk about the four levels of sanctions.

At the first level, interstate cooperation will be limited, bans on military-technical and scientific cooperation, technology transfer will be imposed. This is already partly happening; It seems that the isolation of Russia in the field of technological cooperation was the task №2 in the entire "scheme" of the USA (the task №1 was to neutralize Russia in the international political arena).

Such restrictions will have a painful impact on the development and even the functioning of high-tech industries and the entire R&D cycle in Russia (it depends significantly on Western technologies and the supply of components and components, as well as on Western customers, in particular in the space and rocket field, in a number of research, in IT, in aviation industry and design, in the military-technical field).

However, the population of Russia will not notice the changes: high-tech, technological production, requiring significant scientific and technical cooperation, in Russia make up less than 2% of GDP, total allocations for science (private and public) make up about 2% of the federal budget and 0,35% of GDP (in G7 countries they range from 2 to 3% of GDP, and in terms of per capita in the US, they are 45 times more than in Russia). Our country produces only 0,3% of the global volume of technological products. High-tech exports account for only about 5% of Russian exports, 80% goes to countries that do not cooperate with the US and the EU and therefore will not support sanctions.

In the long term, such sanctions can finish off the Russian scientific potential: those who have lost their ties with the scientific world, have lost orders and supplies from developed countries, many of the remaining Russian scientists emigrate to where they can work. The answer to this threat from the authorities will be either indifference (like the last 25 years - the main thing is oil), or (if the government feels threatened by the country's defenses due to brain drain) the border closure for students and researchers alike military technology. The experience of the USSR shows that in conditions of closed borders one can grow his scientific school, sufficient to maintain competitive applied science.

At the second level of sanctions, we can expect a ban on the sale of engineering and electronics products to Russia (except for those used in households), for the supply of industrial equipment.

Such sanctions look menacing, but are unlikely to be sensitive for the population of the Russian Federation and the country's economy: Russia is “lucky” to drastically lag behind other countries with developing economies in the area of ​​the penetration of imported equipment and technologies.

Russia annually imports investment (that is, not intended for direct consumption by households) equipment for only $ 30 billion.

This is due to the complete cessation of development and even a reduction in the production (except for hydrocarbon production) business. Such a volume of equipment can be easily purchased through third countries, through China - bypassing any sanctions. It will be more expensive, the equipment will be worse - but, in essence, Russia with its current economy generally can hardly buy industrial equipment, it won't be any worse.

At the third level of sanctions, restrictions may be imposed on the servicing of payments in dollars and euros by Russian payers, a ban on investors from countries that support sanctions, on investing in securities of Russian issuers and depositing funds in their capital, and also on lending to residents of Russia. This is a sensitive but not fatal blow: in the financial markets, despite their relatively high level of development, Russia exists quite autonomously. Real foreign investment has never accounted for more than 6% of the total investment volume in the country.

The total amount of foreign investment in capital in Russia is estimated at $ 300 billion, of which approximately $ 60 billion (10% of the capitalization of our stock market) is portfolio investment. The exit of foreigners (not all, but only supporting sanctions!) From the Russian stock market, of course, will drop stock prices significantly below existing levels. But this will in no way affect the operation of issuers and at the same time will give the state (I do not believe in such a desire from private investors) to buy stakes in foreigners for a pittance. Even $ 60 billion is a lifting volume for VEB, and if you need to buy 75%, which doubled in volume, you need only 22,5 billion dollars. Finally, you can not buy them - foreigners who are obedient to sanctions will either sell them for a song to the Chinese, or simply write them off.

Of the remaining $ 240 billion in direct investments, it is not so easy to get out, even with demand from the US and the EU. For Russia, this is a unique buying opportunity - discounts will be much more than 50%, most likely, $ 50 – 60 billion will not be needed to buy everything. Part of the buy Chinese, Arabs from countries that are not 100% supporting the United States, and the Russian investors themselves. If billions of 30 are required from the state, it will easily allocate them. But you can not buy at all. In response to the sanctions, you can simply expropriate the property of the sanctioning investors: to go for a walk.

Of course, Russian companies will no longer raise capital for an IPO abroad. But is this a problem? Russia exports $ 530 billion a year, all imports - no more than $ 345 billion. Let almost $ 100 billion go away in the form of a “capital outflow” - the country still earns $ 100 billion a year. Meanwhile, 2007 was the only year of the last 25 years when Russian issuers made placements of more than $ 10 billion. Can Russia manage without such amounts while maintaining the current model of an “oil corporation with a large social bloc”? It is easy, especially since it is impossible to rely on the development of business in Russia with the current legislation and law enforcement.

Russian debt problems also do not look unsolvable. In the OFZ market, foreign investors own 25% (out of $ 110 billion - approximately $ 26 billion). On the rest of the domestic debt market, the share of foreigners is about 3%, that is, no more than $ 5 billion. However, on 1 in January 2014, Russia's foreign debt was $ 732 billion against $ 564 billion a year earlier - we were actively borrowing recently. The share of non-resident owners there is an estimated 60%, that is, $ 440 billion. The situation here is even better for Russia than with stocks: when trying to mass-sell foreigners, there will simply be no liquidity on the market; bondholders may require Russian issuers to immediately redeem in connection with the “trigger”, which will be the imposition of sanctions. Russian issuers will refuse to pay the debt at all, referring to the “force majeure”, which, undoubtedly, are sanctions of this kind. The international courts in London and Stockholm will get a lot of work, lawyers will receive huge fees, and Russian issuers will not be able to pay their debts.

In the end, a certain “balance” will be established: some issuers will prove their right not to pay, some investors who are not subject to sanctions will redeem part of bonds with very large discounts (possibly, as part of an agreement with Russia). Of course, it is profitable for Russia to just wait for how it will end, the volumes of debt will only be reduced.

There will be no big problems with new ruble borrowings. In 2013, domestic borrowing amounted to (depending on how you count) 350 – 400 billion rubles. The share of foreigners is up to $ 3 billion (about 106 billion rubles). This is not at all the amount on our scale, you can completely abandon such loans.

New currency debt in the foreseeable future, the country does not need. Repayment of debts for 2014 – 2015 years is only $ 81 billion, if Russian companies are partially “defaulted”, referring to force majeure, partially making “buy-backs” with a discount - even less is needed, you can do without refinancing. As for the increase in borrowing, private companies and so in the past two years, reduced the volume of loans. The loans of large state corporations went almost entirely to the acquisition. If acquisitions within the country become almost free (there is no longer a market), and acquisitions outside the country can be completely abandoned (if you don’t need to repay loans previously or need them, but with a large discount), then why borrow at all in foreign markets?

There remains the last - the fourth - the level of sanctions, completely mythical, but also completely demonic: a ban on the purchase from Russia of mineral raw materials and products of its primary processing. Today it is about 88% of Russian exports, that is, $ 450 billion.

Russians will notice such a blow. About 30% of exports will not be affected - they are in countries that do not support sanctions. Partially, export flows will be impossible to redirect, according to various estimates, the export commodity volume will fall from 20 to 30%. The remainder (which will be sold to China and other “friends in misfortune”) will fall in price, with discounts amounting to a significant amount - according to Iran's experience, this is about 50%. In total, exports will fall by about $ 215 billion. This is equivalent to a loss in imports of $ 140 billion and a decrease in domestic accumulation and consumption by $ 75 billion per year. In the monetary sphere, such a change is equivalent to the effect of lowering oil prices to about $ 60 per barrel. Historical calculations show that the equilibrium price of the dollar against the ruble in this situation is about 48. This is a significant drop, but it will not kill the country.

"Leveling" the loss of $ 75 billion in internal revenues will be a solvable problem. This is approximately 20% of the cost of export goods, with a drop in the value of the ruble by 30% most of the loss will simply be closed due to this drop. The rest will go at the expense of reducing profits (if it remains at all), reducing costs and, possibly, state subsidies.

$ 140 billion fall in imports will return it to the level of the 2006 of the year (in which, in general, everything was enough for everyone). In today's imports, easily abbreviated and partially replaceable categories are:
• household appliances - 20% ($ 65 billion);
• food products - 17% ($ 50 billion);
• cars - 16% ($ 50 billion);
• electronics, mainly household - 11% ($ 35 billion);
• textiles - 4% ($ 13 billion).

The reduction is possible both due to import quotas, and due to a significant increase in customs duties, imposing restrictions on the purchase of foreign currency by importers (respectively - tightening the rules for mandatory sale of revenues), introducing special taxes on the purchase of imported goods under the slogan “Buy Domestic!”. A thirty percent reduction in the volume of imports in these categories alone will free up $ 50 billion per year (the budget, in the case of an adequate increase in customs duties, will not suffer, and the consumption of imported goods will decline slightly). But, perhaps, an artificial reduction will not be necessary: ​​with such a fall in the value of the ruble, the purchasing power of citizens will significantly decrease, and imports will decline by themselves - due to the lack of demand.

Thus, in the case of the most severe sanctions (and only in this case), the well-being of Russian citizens will decrease — the purchasing power will fall by 30% (and then — not immediately, as the damping economic mechanisms will work, import substitution will go, etc.) . This is less than during the 1995 – 1999 period. Inflation will become double-digit, there will be a shortage of imported goods. Within two to three years it will be all changes. But then a significant reduction in state budget revenues will have an effect if it is impossible to borrow abroad. I already wrote that with oil at $ 60 per barrel (the highest level of sanctions gives the same effect), the size of federal budget revenues will be reduced to the level of 2003 of the year. A simultaneous drop in incomes of the population and legal entities will cause a similar drop in incomes and a consolidated budget. In these conditions, just for survival (preserving the infrastructure, avoiding mass riots, etc.), the government will be forced to seek foreign exchange reserves at any price, directing them to “close the holes”.

And Russia still has many resources; it is only necessary to adopt several laws:
• Government reserves, if you spend $ 50 billion per year (this is the 2005 budget of the year), will support the budget for 10 years.
• Russian banks “hold” about $ 115 billion abroad - this is the reverse side of the population’s foreign currency deposits in total with the currency in their hands ($ 140 billion). The law on the prohibition of the accumulation of currency by residents releases this $ 115 billion - unless, of course, these assets are frozen due to sanctions.
• Further, $ 48 billion constitute portfolio investments of residents of the Russian Federation abroad; $ 43 billion - debt investments of residents of the Russian Federation abroad; $ 5 billion - equity participation abroad. The law on the prohibition of investments abroad for residents of Russia (with the obligation to sell them and realize revenues for rubles) in conjunction with the previous law will give about $ 100 billion more - again, we must be able to withdraw these investments from the sanctions.
• $ 45 billion a year is spent by Russian tourists abroad. The ban on the export of capital for personal purposes (for example, through the refusal of international payment systems, plus a ban on the export of more than $ 1000 per person in cash, coupled with the introduction of exit visas and a drastic restriction of tourists ’departure - let them go to the Crimea) will save Russia $ 35 – 40 billion in year.
• $ 22 – 25 billion per year - the balance of transfers by residents of funds abroad (mainly the withdrawal of savings). A complete ban on such a withdrawal of capital will save Russia about $ 20 billion a year.
• $ 17 billion per year - withdrawal of funds to the CIS countries by migrants. The ban on currency transfers (even if rubles are transferred) will not only save Russia $ 17 billion a year in currencies, but also make the ruble more in demand by playing against inflation.
• $ 20 – 30 billion a year is spent in the form of illegal net export of capital. Tightening control can save even at least billions of 13 – 15.

Total, $ 200 billion can be “returned” to the country and provide an increase in the current account balance by more than $ 90 billion a year, subject to changes in laws, as well as control over their implementation. Note that we are not talking about improving the legal field, business stimulation, tax cuts and other "obvious" ideas. You can save a depressed environment, lawlessness, high taxes - and yet have an effect equivalent to the inflow of $ 90 billion per year into the country's economy - almost as much as in the best past years. It is clear that this effect is based on the availability of resources in the country and on the consumption potential of the population. But today they are and will not be spent a few more years. Only the volume of deposits of individuals in Russian banks today exceeds $ 550 billion, the amount of cash and savings in other forms, according to some data, is no less.

The first one or two years of the toughest sanctions the country will live "by inertia." Then $ 200 billion of "private foreign exchange reserves" will hold for another two years. Finally, the aforementioned laws will allow the country to exist, gradually withdrawing the savings of the population, for another six years. All this time, government reserves will be spent - just enough for ten years.

At the same time, state-owned companies and institutions will receive support. Accordingly, one should wait for the complete consolidation of the oil, gas and mining and banking industries. The security forces will continue to be funded first and foremost, and education and health care will be forgotten. It will also be necessary to forget about science, infrastructure development, large-scale projects, by the way, and about the defense complex. But stability until 2024 year will be provided. It seems clear why the current authorities in Russia are not afraid of sanctions. And then - the elections, it will be possible to return to 1985 year, announce the restructuring and again promise the West to behave well. And again to receive loans, to get rid of sanctions, to carry out privatization, to develop the country. Only the start this time will be significantly lower.

Final remark: all of the above is a theoretical argument. The author does not believe in the application of any large-scale sanctions to Russia.
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  1. Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 16 May 2014 22: 26
    +10
    But there’s no nichrome! Tomorrow the West will crawl to us by itself!
    1. from punk
      from punk 16 May 2014 22: 33
      +28
      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      But there’s no nichrome! Tomorrow the West will crawl to us by itself!
      1. Mitek
        Mitek 16 May 2014 22: 46
        +18
        The article should have been titled "What will happen to the West if sanctions are imposed on Russia." 1 scenario.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 16 May 2014 23: 54
          0
          Quote: Mitek
          The article should have been titled "What will happen to the West if sanctions are imposed on Russia." 1 scenario.

          Oh! When do you start to think ..... Maybe the President and the security forces and representatives of the military-industrial complex held a meeting on the care of addiction for components. What's the point ?! Years are needed for this! What were you thinking about before? And what if the war?
          1. Penzyac
            Penzyac 17 May 2014 01: 05
            +5
            Quote: nycsson
            Quote: Mitek
            The article should have been titled "What will happen to the West if sanctions are imposed on Russia." 1 scenario.

            ... And if the war?

            If tomorrow is a war, then they will try to quickly transfer a low-tech war, such as WW2, without any computers, JPS, and other modern things (for example, the use of impulse weapons and low-power tactical nuclear weapons in the ionosphere), and for such a war, Western fighters and most of them weapons are absolutely unsuitable.
            1. maxxdesign
              maxxdesign 17 May 2014 05: 05
              0
              and we will make an alliance with the Sith!
          2. Mitek
            Mitek 17 May 2014 14: 38
            +1
            I wonder when you start to think. All these precision weapons are good against blacks. In a duel with a country that has the ability to be comparable to 3.14ndos, lower-tech weapons come to the fore. Much more dangerous is the decline in the population, as they will tear us up by the whole world, with hilarious hooting. But before that they did not allow the Strategic Missile Forces.
        2. jktu66
          jktu66 17 May 2014 00: 10
          +5
          This is due to a complete halt in the development and even a reduction in the production (except for hydrocarbon production) business.
          Can it be that only serious sanctions will force our government to create conditions for the FAVORABILITY of PRODUCTION in Russia ???? The planned increase in excise taxes on fuel will only worsen the already difficult situation of the production business!
        3. not main
          not main 17 May 2014 00: 45
          +4
          Quote: Mitek
          The article should have been titled "What will happen to the West if sanctions are imposed on Russia." 1 scenario.

          And the West has already announced that all ties in the energy sector are not subject to sanctions! Stressing a stable gas supply for 40 years!
    2. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 16 May 2014 23: 01
      +18
      I really didn’t like the article. There is no high-tech export? And the defense industry? And space? And self-sufficiency? Did he steal these figures from Kudrin? We are integrated into the world economy, and the author considers Russia as something separate (economically).
      1. olegglin
        olegglin 17 May 2014 00: 30
        +10
        I could not resist not to quote:

        “The world has changed - and the United States did not notice it. They confidently press the buttons of the ancient lamp control panel of the Cold War times - but the lamps have not glowed for a long time, and the current does not run along rotted wires going nowhere, which were dismantled (or even plundered many years ago) The reaction to pressing the buttons does not correspond to the expected - but the USA does not have another remote control, and they continue to poke buttons at random.

        This is called inadequacy.

        When God wants to punish a person, he deprives him of his mind. When God wants to punish a power, he deprives its leaders of adequacy. This is how all the great powers collapsed. This is how the United States will collapse. Now is the time."
      2. ECT
        ECT 17 May 2014 10: 08
        +1
        Author rare go from
    3. salomeeff
      salomeeff 16 May 2014 23: 19
      +6
      Everything is correct. That's just the author of the article has a strange surname Movchan. It would be better to be silent, to be smarter.
    4. nycsson
      nycsson 16 May 2014 23: 49
      -2
      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      But there’s no nichrome! Tomorrow the West will crawl to us by itself!

      Any person who understands at least a little in economics would not say so. There is such a thing as foreign economic activity. Take an interest at your leisure .....
    5. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 17 May 2014 00: 04
      +1
      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      But there’s no nichrome! Tomorrow the West will crawl to us by itself!

      Indeed - everything can end much earlier. And completely unpredictable. For everyone, and especially economists ...
    6. Cherdak
      Cherdak 17 May 2014 00: 22
      +3
      Quote: 0
      Author Andrey Movchan

      Movchan you would be better was silent!

      Analysis is superficial and pointless ...
    7. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK 17 May 2014 00: 54
      +2
      If my grandmother had x .. There would be a grandfather))
    8. cenych
      cenych 17 May 2014 04: 07
      +2

      The first one or two years of the toughest sanctions the country will live "by inertia." Then $ 200 billion of "private foreign exchange reserves" will hold for another two years. Finally, the aforementioned laws will allow the country to exist, gradually withdrawing the savings of the population, for another six years. All this time, government reserves will be spent - just enough for ten years.

      At the same time, state-owned companies and institutions will receive support, respectively, we must wait for the full consolidation of the oil, gas, mining and banking sectors. Power structures will continue to be financed in the first place, and education and healthcare can be forgotten. It will also be necessary to forget about science, infrastructure development, large-scale projects, by the way - and about the defense complex. But stability until 2024 will be ensured. It seems understandable why the current government in Russia is not afraid of sanctions. And then - the elections, it will be possible to return to 1985, declare perestroika and again promise the West to behave well. And again to get loans, to get rid of sanctions, to carry out privatization, to develop the country. Only the start this time will be significantly lower.

      So we should be afraid and cave in, according to the logic of the author?
      There would be a normal article if it were not for this darling in the end, and the author considered as if Russia is on another planet
    9. Siberian German
      Siberian German 17 May 2014 04: 37
      -1
      and I vote right away for the mythical option - then the state may stir up and understand that its domestic production and consumption is better than foreign ones - but in the West they understand that this option is hardly possible even if we go through a steam rink to Kiev or Lviv
    10. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 17 May 2014 05: 21
      +2
      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      But there’s no nichrome! Tomorrow the West will crawl to us by itself!

      You don't need your forehead against the wall either, if you drive the west into a corner - yes, it can cause significant economic damage to Russia, but it will not come to that, Putin is playing subtly - exactly on the verge, in front of which such steps for the West do not justify themselves, and this line he will not cross, its goal is to develop countries and gain geopolitical influence, and not an unjustified opposition to "everyone and everything, out of principle" (the country's interests are above emotions and principles).

      Py.Sy. - Everything will be fine wink
      1. MBA78
        MBA78 17 May 2014 15: 05
        0
        in the 3 millennium after 2024 the world will live according to the new rules - each will build his own house and earn his bread by his own labor, in general there will be no parasites
  2. Yellow white
    Yellow white 16 May 2014 22: 29
    +26
    IMHO my opinion: we lived under the twentieth levels of sanctions, and during the Soviet Union we lived not bad!
    We will raise our own, in all sectors, from space to agricultural and we will be happy on our earth!
    We need to work, everyone in their own place, and not think about sanctions when everyone in their place is busy and glad to do what it does, it really benefits how it turns out to be the whole Russian state !!!
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 16 May 2014 22: 53
      +4
      Everyone should benefit their country and society!
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    3. s1н7т
      s1н7т 16 May 2014 23: 20
      +6
      Quote: Black and White
      IMHO my opinion: we lived under the twentieth levels of sanctions, and during the Soviet Union we lived not bad!

      So they lived very well. But then there was state property for the means of production (socialism), and right now - private (for capitalism). Right now, they will begin to compensate for our losses, how to drink! What bitches voted for this ?! Here are them - the first under "sanctions", with the weaning of the stolen! And then - send, fuck, let them love capitalism from scratch!
    4. Korablev
      Korablev 16 May 2014 23: 45
      -5
      Oh sure! With the introduction of the "fourth level" sanctions, all office plankton, including the jingoistic patriots grazing here, will go to the village to raise pigs and potatoes.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 17 May 2014 01: 26
        +6
        Quote: Korablev
        Oh sure! With the introduction of the "fourth level" sanctions, all office plankton, including the jingoistic patriots grazing here, will go to the village to raise pigs and potatoes.

        Yes, nothing, not fatal: in "perestroika", with a hunchback, they survived empty shops and coupons, and in the 90s they planted all the potatoes and spent their payday salary (hyperinflation), but they didn't tear the hair on their backs and don't sprinkle ashes on their heads many went to the shuttles or to the market, nothing, survived. And office plankton later appeared when extra funds appeared in the country.
      2. Buran
        Buran 17 May 2014 07: 21
        +3
        In a small town, until last year, every second healthy man with a car, instead of working, taxed. All parking lots were jammed with taxi drivers. At that they cried that there is no work, and if there is then they pay little ... In the city, the shortage of workers is terrible.
        And they sat waiting for the clients, but what about the house is warm, the house is nearby, when necessary - free ... But then the law came. All were scared, but today, all these "taxi drivers" went to work. Breaks them scary. So many years to suffer the foolishness, not a joke.
        So with the sanctions ...
  3. from punk
    from punk 16 May 2014 22: 29
    +7
    I already get out of this word-SANCTION. I'm tired. I almost filled my chef's face when he said that he would apply SANCTIONS to some employees
  4. techmesh
    techmesh 16 May 2014 22: 33
    +6
    Everything in dollars is measured - not tired? When will he already collapse with mattresses ?!
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    2. Baikal
      Baikal 17 May 2014 00: 35
      +10
      All in good time.
  5. Shaber
    Shaber 16 May 2014 22: 34
    +3
    As always, there are more cones than us than)) Let them butt the wall further!
  6. CrazyMishka
    CrazyMishka 16 May 2014 22: 35
    +4
    China will only be glad to fully annex our market.
  7. Arrogant
    Arrogant 16 May 2014 22: 36
    +9
    For some reason, the author is modestly silent about what will happen to Europe, will the old woman reach 2024? recourse
  8. Viacheslav
    Viacheslav 16 May 2014 22: 38
    +10
    The EU has already abandoned energy sanctions - it's not the United States, which overseas and they do not care how Europe will live without gas.

    American sanctions are unlikely to hit Russia painfully - we have very little trade with them.
    Electronics can also be bought in China.

    In general, it is unlikely that Russia will be very ill from sanctions.

    It is necessary to solve problems within the country, but they are not afraid of sanctions
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 16 May 2014 22: 55
      +6
      And what do they all write about electronics purchases? It feels like we have the weakest electronics in the galaxy. Although PAK FA, S-400, GLONASS and Elbrus convincingly prove that this is absolutely not so.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 17 May 2014 02: 01
        +3
        Quote: Basarev
        And what do they all write about electronics purchases? It feels like we have the weakest electronics in the galaxy. Although PAK FA, S-400, GLONASS and Elbrus convincingly prove that this is absolutely not so.

        If the state wishes, it is possible to force the electronics industry to work not according to a preliminary application and to produce not functional, but complete analogs of imported components, in the same housings, with the same overall and installation dimensions and pinout as those of analogs, so as not to alter what has been developed for imported PKI. And the lower degree of integration of microcircuits can be compensated by original circuit-technical and software solutions, like the same "Elbrus". Previously (in the USSR), we managed to make functional analogs of what Western engineers did on microcircuits on lamps and discrete transistors, while not losing much to them in terms of weight, size and reliability.
        Until the Soviet bosses started copying what was bought from the West through third parties, in general, in terms of electronics and cybernetics, we were not much inferior to him, or even ahead of him. But Khrushch (again this "Ukrainian") said: "Cybernetics is the corrupt girl of imperialism" ...
    2. Korablev
      Korablev 16 May 2014 23: 47
      -3
      Quote: Viacheslav
      Electronics can also be bought in China.

      as if all the "electronics" are not from China now
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 17 May 2014 02: 03
        0
        Quote: Korablev
        Quote: Viacheslav
        Electronics can also be bought in China.

        as if all the "electronics" are not from China now

        Not all, do not confuse consumer electronics with military and industrial.
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  9. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha 16 May 2014 22: 38
    +25
    In the world there is only one force that can make Russia cancer! - potato.
  10. Irokez
    Irokez 16 May 2014 22: 39
    +16
    What will happen to Russia in the case of harsh Western sanctions. Will be the USSR.
  11. Sibiryak1303
    Sibiryak1303 16 May 2014 22: 40
    +26
    tanu is dedicated laughing
    1. waisson
      waisson 17 May 2014 01: 47
      +6
      still similar laughing
  12. VadimL
    VadimL 16 May 2014 22: 42
    +5
    It is unlikely that in the event of extremely tough sanctions our country will live "by inertia."
  13. Kazanec
    Kazanec 16 May 2014 22: 43
    +6
    Well, or to the edge - the day after tomorrow! :) Of course they are not complete rams, they understand that they will "tighten the screws", in response they will fly in and they will not seem a little, especially Europe (although mattress makers may not care about Europe) :) well and then the second option is possible - a big war (mattress-mates will benefit from this, since by tradition they will try to unleash it in the same Europe, and not, for example, in Canada :).
    Therefore:
    a) It is necessary that the EU clearly understands that it loses more money from sanctions than Americans who muddied these sanctions;
    b) If he (the EU) is so stupid or spineless that he will lead the war, you need to convince him to start it in Mexico or Canada (well, this is fantastic of course :);
    And in general, to announce to Amer that the limit of world wars on the territory of Eurasia has been exhausted in the last century, so you need to choose another, more convenient continent for these purposes :))))
    But only after the 2014 World Cup in football!))))))
    1. Korablev
      Korablev 16 May 2014 23: 55
      -4
      Quote: Kazanets
      they are not complete rams, they understand that they will "tighten the screws", in response they will fly in from us and it will not seem enough for them, especially in Europe

      Yes, nothing has come to them from us yet, and it’s not a fact that anything will ever arrive.
      1. Buran
        Buran 17 May 2014 08: 17
        0
        Now they throw a piece of shit one by one, but when our "fikalka" drives up and shit from the hose ...
  14. Palych9999
    Palych9999 16 May 2014 22: 44
    0
    A rare case on our site: a very smart article, justified by correct calculations.
    Bravo to the author for the "educational program" for "and we have their caps!"
    Thank you.
  15. Patriot.ru.
    Patriot.ru. 16 May 2014 22: 44
    +3
    A muddy article. And ours and yours. But I think we will live.
    1. v-sorok
      v-sorok 17 May 2014 00: 43
      0
      Sorry! Minus inserted by mistake! +!
  16. v245721
    v245721 16 May 2014 22: 47
    +3
    a lot of text. you would write novels.
  17. shelva
    shelva 16 May 2014 22: 48
    +2
    If they give up Russia as a market for sales and raw materials, then why would they need this whole vegetable garden? They will not agree to this, and they are afraid that we ourselves will refuse many of their "services".
  18. Akvadra
    Akvadra 16 May 2014 22: 49
    +6
    The USSR was in conditions of constant application of any sanctions against it. I did not feel them on myself. I felt their cancellation in the 90s.
    Enter again. To be good.
  19. SBC
    SBC 16 May 2014 23: 00
    +11
    Speaking of cynicism:
  20. suharev-52
    suharev-52 16 May 2014 23: 01
    +3
    I especially liked the sticker on the rear window of the car. Sincerely.
  21. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 16 May 2014 23: 01
    +9
    Personally, my potato is growing in the garden, therefore, there will be food for aunt pigs, therefore, we won’t be left without lard with meat. In the end: I laid big and fat on the sanctions of Western clowns drinks
    1. from punk
      from punk 17 May 2014 00: 02
      +5
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Personally, my potato is growing in the garden, therefore, there will be food for aunt pigs, therefore, we won’t be left without lard with meat.

      don’t you read the Ukrainian press? Putin banned fat in Russia laughing
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 17 May 2014 00: 06
        +7
        Quote: punk
        Putin banned fat in Russia

        Ukrainians wassat -maybe yes. But not for those who believe in the Russian people " drinks Therefore, I can crack the cracklings with the bulb under the pickle and lay big and thick on the sanctions of the Western clowns drinks laughing
        Yes, and my answer is Western sanctions: I forbid ped ... cams to appear in my country (as well as neighboring). Nothing to trample the holy land on godly vile creatures soldier Go Russia!!! angry
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 17 May 2014 02: 16
      0
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Personally, my potato is growing in the garden, therefore, there will be food for aunt pigs, therefore, we won’t be left without lard with meat. In the end: I laid big and fat on the sanctions of Western clowns drinks

      I also planted potatoes, apple blossoms and cherries, grapes bloom, and put a tomato in the ground ... smile
  22. pvv113
    pvv113 16 May 2014 23: 02
    +11
    The author considered only the unilateral application of sanctions - against Russia, without affecting the possible consequences of retaliatory measures, of which disconnecting Europe from gas is the least evil. Although this would be enough for the carbohydrate-dependent industry, which would fall into crisis, and winters, in spite of global warming, do not promise to be comfortable without heating. There would immediately go a murmur among the population, accustomed to warm themselves in the winter in a warm kennel. Plus equipment that in the west does not know how to work at freezing temperatures. Well, etc. Surely, our respective research institutes have already calculated the options for sanctions, counter-sanctions and their consequences, and the total bill is clearly not in favor of the Anglo-Saxons bully
    1. Korablev
      Korablev 16 May 2014 23: 58
      -4
      Quote: pvv113
      our respective research institutes have already calculated options for sanctions, counter-sanctions and their consequences

      What research institutes? you are not living in the USSR now, and who needs to consider something like that, you won’t cut the loot on this.
  23. leo44
    leo44 16 May 2014 23: 15
    +10
    Yes, there will be nothing. These sanctions apply only to a certain circle of persons and two and a half banks. Sanction producers are worse off. The main part of the population lived as usual, so to speak, life, so it will live. What will change for her?

    Strange people are minus. Apparently the oligarchs wound up on the site. I personally do not give a shit about state sanctions. Someone not? Or does someone seriously believe that for this granny something will change from sanctions?
    1. Evgenij.
      Evgenij. 17 May 2014 04: 54
      +1
      And the sanctions helped us, competitors sitting on imported raw materials raised prices very strongly, but we have norms)
    2. s1н7т
      s1н7т 17 May 2014 18: 49
      +1
      Quote: leo44
      Strange people are minus. Apparently the oligarchs wound up on the site. I personally do not give a shit about state sanctions. Someone not?

      Me, in general, too. But there is a fear that under these "sanctions" they will begin to tighten the screws on us - as a pretext. They will raise the tax on real estate (any), cancel various benefits, etc. Do you think I'm wrong? We will see.
  24. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 16 May 2014 23: 18
    +13
    There will be serious sanctions or not - now no one will really say. But the fact that all this can become a powerful impetus for Russia for the development of many areas of industry and the banking sector is visible to the naked eye. Our country has always rallied and developed sharply under external pressure. I wish this tradition was not lost.
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 17 May 2014 00: 05
      -4
      Quote: Reserve officer
      But the fact that all this can become a powerful impetus for Russia for the development of many areas of industry and the banking sector is visible to the naked eye. Our country has always rallied and developed sharply under external pressure.

      What about time? Who will give you a rally? Or do you think that they will sit and watch how we will rally? We will not have such an opportunity. Will have to rally under the whistle of bullets. And at the cost of millions of lives that will be on the conscience of those who brought the country to such a state.
      Quote: Reserve officer
      I wish this tradition was not lost.

      And I want Russia to be always strong and powerful, and our enemies would not even intrigue us in their thoughts. For all the time of its existence, our country has never been in such a difficult situation .......
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 17 May 2014 01: 14
        +7
        You predict direct combat. I don’t think it will come to this. For then the probability of using nuclear forces is very high.
        Rather, there will be something like a viable economic blockade, and only from the United States and the EU. And no more. And China, India, Brazil? So there will be time.
        And about the difficult situation, if you are about Russia, and not about the USSR, remember the 90 years. Then, indeed, there was a difficult situation, burdened by external rule. Remember Yeltsin, Kozyrev - I still wonder how Russia was able to stay within its current borders then.
        What I want to agree with is that, indeed, Russia will always be strong and powerful.
  25. jPilot
    jPilot 16 May 2014 23: 21
    +8
    Not an article but a continuous "if" and horror stories. Moreover, the feeling that the article was written by a prominent representative of the 5th column.
    And IF, in response to sanctions, begin to raise and stimulate their own production, investing in science, medicine, and education.
    Moreover, this needs to be started now without any if, and the Kulibins in Russia are much more than anywhere else, stimulating their activities and scientific progress will be such that we can put many in their belt. The past years have passed in the collapse of the great country of the USSR thanks to the enemies they can’t be called otherwise, but there is one plus, the country saw how to live and what to strive for and there’s no getting anywhere else.
    And you don’t need to be afraid of sanctions, you need to think about how to reduce their worst consequences to nothing, but there is a plus from sanctions, they should first of all make our government and officials think about the future of the country and its prosperity, and not just stuffing their wallets.
    And Russia needs to behave as if sanctions had already arrived.
    A phoenix bird called RUSSIA will be reborn from hell again !!!
    1. Korablev
      Korablev 17 May 2014 00: 03
      -10%
      the kindergarten is continuous ... AND IF. all together. together. and let’s, triple, gip-gip-hooray !!!
      and who does not jump with a cry of cheers! - that is the fifth column.
    2. ty60
      ty60 17 May 2014 01: 34
      +1
      Yes, he must have advised Psaku the other day. She couldn’t answer one question from the journalists.
  26. DPN
    DPN 16 May 2014 23: 24
    +4
    Thanks to these sanctions, RUSSIA will live on its own head, which means it will engage in its industry and agriculture. And the Saudis should be warned if they try to plant; a pig: they will cease to exist and the states will not help.
    Otherwise, the same collapse as with the USSR. If earlier, the Saudi’s bastard would still have lived in the USSR, a country where man was a friend and comrade to man.
    1. andj61
      andj61 16 May 2014 23: 56
      +1
      Quote: DPN
      if earlier, Saudi’s bastard would still live in the USSR, a country where man was a friend and comrade to man.

      Only it is necessary to beat for a reason, that is, for the United States, and not for investigation - Saudi Arabia, which fulfilled the social order
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 17 May 2014 00: 15
        +1
        Not a social order, but a share paid by compensations. And the rest is true. Only countermeasures on our part are not visible today. Maybe I’m not looking there? request
  27. b.t.a.
    b.t.a. 16 May 2014 23: 25
    +3
    I did not like the fact that the author of the article does not look at the fact that sanctions also have a downside. This is a scarecrow. Geyropa did a lot of stupid things, but even sane ones remained there. (I think so)
  28. vasiliysxx
    vasiliysxx 16 May 2014 23: 29
    +3
    The country will live “by inertia” for the first one or two years of the toughest sanctions.


    Rather, by inertia, we will again reach the Berlin in a tank. smile
  29. shitovmg
    shitovmg 16 May 2014 23: 32
    +6
    Article obvious "-"! If you are not aware, then the sanctions have been in effect since February. The advance payment was transferred to us on the 15th day following the reporting month, the salary on the 30th day, for the next month. Since March, the salary is not paid at all, only 2 thousand 2 times a month! Banks do not give loans, they said, the refinancing rate of the Central Bank should change. Guys, at least get into a loop at 1,5 rates, the salary is 10 thousand. From it, alimony to the millionth city from the regional center on Vyatka, and there the former, the chief accountant in the regional polyclinic receives only 16 !!! I don't need Ukraine or Crimea anymore, I need to organize my own Maidan and drive this scum to the cemetery, and there, at the expense!
    1. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 17 May 2014 02: 57
      +1
      Quote: shitovmg
      Bank loans do not give,

      Cross yourself! Banks got tired of calling their loans. Now they also throw SMS. Come with your passport and it will be "right now". There is no word at all about salary delays. This is where you have such darkness, if not a secret?
  30. nomad74
    nomad74 16 May 2014 23: 35
    +2
    Everything is fine, just make a breakthrough in 4 technological order, and do it yourself quickly! Like in the Stalin five-year plans! We will build new plants, and even more will not depend on the West! But they are without our oil and gas a question!
    1. Marine One
      Marine One 17 May 2014 02: 10
      0
      Quote: nomad74
      all right just make a breakthrough in 4 technological order

      Or maybe to return immediately to gathering and fishing? The 4th way lasted from 1930 to 1970. The key factors of the structure were the development of internal combustion engines, conveyor production, wire telephony, automotive, aircraft construction and petrochemicals.
  31. Valkh
    Valkh 16 May 2014 23: 35
    -4
    I managed to remove almost all the cons !!! It seems that the article is a leftist !!! And the cons were in the same opinion !!! hi trolls write !!! Liver to you !!! laughing
  32. Sibiryak1303
    Sibiryak1303 16 May 2014 23: 47
    +5
    Why be afraid of them, let them impose sanctions, we are on the drum.
  33. Kombrig
    Kombrig 16 May 2014 23: 57
    0
    inertia is finite ...
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  35. Pilot_Petrenko
    Pilot_Petrenko 17 May 2014 00: 07
    +2
    Our main problem now is our rear, the fifth column in the upper levels. All the work of the US Federal Reserve is now going with them, and intensified many times over. I hope that VVP has calculated everything and keeps it under control. Such chess is not for the "Chapaevites". Look, and not only for Sevastopol, and for the "Kursk" will be answered.
    1. ar-ren
      ar-ren 17 May 2014 02: 37
      -1
      Judging by your own words, Putin is a sucker who cannot crush the husk, which the whole country already knows.
  36. komel
    komel 17 May 2014 00: 09
    +3
    On the eve of the center of Berlin, Angela Merkel was booed.
    Federal Chancellor of Germany Angela Merkel in an interview with the German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung said that, despite differences on the Ukrainian issue, Germany intends to continue a close long-term partnership with Russia.

    Angela Merkel seems to receive messages from those who chose her, the German Prime Minister rejected the possibility of increasing the defense budget, despite the demand of NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, as well as the introduction of military service.
    1. komel
      komel 17 May 2014 01: 16
      0
      Ukraine is going to modernize gas transmission systems together with the United States, and the appointment of the son of US Vice President Joe Biden to the board of directors of the Ukrainian gas producer Burisma Holdings is going to extract shale gas, including in the South East. Zhirinovsky "The US wants to extract shale gas in Ukraine for the EU, cutting off supplies from Russia" In my opinion, this is an economic component to recoup the money invested in the project to weaken the EU and Russia.
  37. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 17 May 2014 00: 21
    +4
    What's this? According to the author, we are not afraid of sanctions, because: "What a blessing that we live in a wild backward country, where we have not forgotten how to heat our homes with firewood and make chicks out of frozen potatoes! There will be no imported TV and computer-khren with them! Let's get together! singing ditties about NATO sanctions in the hut and under a torch. " ???
    1. Pilot_Petrenko
      Pilot_Petrenko 17 May 2014 00: 30
      0
      No, it's just that he gives statistics like. Somewhere smeared, but in principle in a stream. Ditties about sanctions are now only NATO and sings, and at odds, Chocolate sings, enter, businessmen sing, do not enter. Harmonium. There is no chant, the conductors are no longer the same.
      The consequences of the collapse of the USSR are shown to us in a harsh manner, so that we understand correctly that after the dull "bad years" the correct "bad summers" will come.
  38. udav1964
    udav1964 17 May 2014 00: 23
    +1
    It would be nice to add from the author of the article what changes will occur in the economies of sanctioners. And do they need it?
  39. v-sorok
    v-sorok 17 May 2014 00: 30
    +3
    Again, the author starts from the dollar. It is high time to withdraw these candy wrappers from circulation! Even the government has already started talking about it. Enough to feed the USA with interest on paper that is not backed by anything !! "World currency!" Shit !!!
    1. ty60
      ty60 17 May 2014 01: 39
      +1
      We will answer the rise in palladium prices to start
  40. Repty
    Repty 17 May 2014 00: 32
    +2
    Sanctions of the Americans of Russia are waist-high, but Europe itself is not profitable to introduce them against us, which is only the loss of 300 jobs only in Germany. Yes, Merkel will have a particularly perverse form. But on the other hand, maybe she wants this ... Well, something like that ...
  41. VeteranS
    VeteranS 17 May 2014 00: 42
    +1
    The inexhaustible talent of our people is best shown when we are impudently "pressed", incl. sanctions ... Yes, in our government there are many liberals who lived more comfortably when we assented, as in the 90s, to the American policy of the world gendarme (bearers of American de * mocracy), but our President and the entire Russian people (more 80%) have already decided on their historical choice - the creation of the great superpower of the Russian World and Holy Russia, based on Truth, Love and Creation as opposed to the Anglo-Saxon civilization of the "Golden Calf" and Sodom perversions! All the best and the latest - the Armed Forces, the development of their own science-intensive industry, food security, alliances with countries at war with the United States and NATO! According to the prophecy of the holy fathers of the Orthodox Church, God determined Russia to protect human civilization from demons of all stripes, and it will cope with this universal task!
  42. Penzyac
    Penzyac 17 May 2014 00: 48
    +1
    Plus for the last remark, and for the rest - dark fantasy all these scenarios. Western business would rather go to replace its own governments, including in the United States, than agree to lose all these hundreds of billions (taking into account the multiplier effect, trillions) of dollars and euros. They will be an order of magnitude cheaper, and for such grandmas they are ready to strangle themselves.
  43. gav6757
    gav6757 17 May 2014 01: 32
    +2
    It was all already!

    When the world did not want to recognize the young Soviet republic, Grandfather Stalin, collecting gold from the bins (not always in good ways), began to buy the loyalty of the Western democrats.
    Then he began to buy up technologies and entire factories, to import specialists, so that they would learn how to use new technologies ... Money (gold) did not go to the crap, but to the latest means of production, machine tools, steam locomotives and whole factories were bought! And then, in 1945, modern equipment was exported on a large scale from defeated Germany, and not what we were shown on TV (this is particular).
    I WRITE TO THAT SANCTIONS, UNDER THE SKILLLY LEADING COUNTRY OF THE COUNTRY, MAY BECOME A GREAT RISE FOR THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY! AND THIS DEPENDS ON THE PRESIDENT, FIRST, AND THE PEOPLE, IN SUCH BEGINNINGS, WILL SUPPORT IT !!!
  44. Manul49
    Manul49 17 May 2014 01: 41
    +4
    Article - horror story with "if to the nth degree. "Excluding recoil.
    But she, oddly enough, is optimistic.
    It says, if translated into Russian: "Even with the most incredible transcendental sanctions, Russia will not **."

    And all this - without taking into account our answer to modern chamberlains.
  45. Marine One
    Marine One 17 May 2014 02: 03
    +1
    Exactly hard By the way, the author of the article did not mention sanctions practically. And among them there may be, for example, a complete embargo on the supply of pharmaceutical products (medicines and raw materials - about 80% of imports at present) and on the supply and updating of high-level software, for example, on SAP or Oracle bases (ACS and ACS TP in the oil and gas industry, electric and nuclear energy, the banking sector). In the long run, it is impossible to replace either one or the other with our own developments. And we won’t buy in China, and we won’t download from torrents. However, even Iraq and the former Yugoslavia in their worst years did not encounter such pressure. And in the case of Russia, it will be a ready world war.
  46. ar-ren
    ar-ren 17 May 2014 02: 34
    0
    Thanks for the good review article!
  47. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 17 May 2014 02: 47
    -2
    Bad written! Minus.
  48. Alexgs
    Alexgs 17 May 2014 03: 56
    +3
    Tired of you with your sanctions.
  49. ddmm09
    ddmm09 17 May 2014 04: 18
    -1
    Quote: Nikoha.2010
    But there’s no nichrome! Tomorrow the West will crawl to us by itself!

    Something similar was said in the days of the USSR, and things are still there ... In our country, after all, a pro-Western politician can come to power, the modern system of elections in the Russian Federation allows this to be done. What then?!.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 17 May 2014 05: 34
      +1
      That's it! Politics in our country changes depending on the next "tsar". Suffice it to recall Khrushchev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin. We will never be able to live in this country calmly, stably, predictably, as long as the country is ruled by the "tsar" and not the law and Constitution; while the people are "silent", and the "public" "sniffs in a rag." If Putin "leaves", who "comes"? Another "Putin", or "Medvedev's type" (neither fish, nor meat), or "Yeltsin's asshole type", who will give the Crimea, and Primorye to the Chinese in the bargain, drunk? Tell me, who has ever dared to obstruct the "strategic" decision of Stalin, Khrushchev, Gorbachev? And Putin? And that Putin does not excite me, a man who once declared that the results of privatization (honest people who called: "the great oligarchic-criminal privatization) will not allow to revise (i.e. he will not allow thieves to take away what was stolen). corruption "fights" for "C". Only now there is no time for "C". Now a situation arises, which was predicted a long time ago: either RUSSIA, or Corruption. Yes, Putin has justly earned respect in Russia for the results of his government in recent years. But he "rules "in the same spirit:" the state is me ", which means that the old style of leadership is still supported. Maybe he wanted and was ready to do more, more decisively; but it is possible that there is an anti-national opposition at the" top "(duma, government, military , business, politicians) about which the "nizam" is not aware. And it is rightly noted that "tomorrow a pro-Western politician may come" and then: "I can't beat my ndrav; I want to give it back ..., I want it, I won't give it up .... . "
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 17 May 2014 07: 01
        0
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        That's it! Politics in our country changes depending on the next "tsar". Suffice it to recall Khrushchev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin. We will never be able to live in this country calmly, stably, predictably, as long as the country is ruled by the "tsar" and not the law and The Constitution, while the people are "silent", and the "public" is "sniffing in a rag." If Putin "leaves", who "comes"? Another "Putin", or "Medvedev's type" (neither fish, nor meat), or "Yeltsin's asshole type", who will give the Crimea, and Primorye to the Chinese in addition to the drunkenness? Tell me, who has ever dared to obstruct the "strategic" decision of Stalin, Khrushchev, Gorbachev? And Putin? And that Putin does not excite me, a person who once declared that the results of privatization (honest people who called: "the great oligarchic-criminal privatization) will not allow to revise (i.e. he will not allow the thieves to take away what was stolen). corruption "fights" for "C". Only now there is no time for "C". Now a situation arises, which was predicted a long time ago: either RUSSIA, or Corruption. Yes, Putin has justly earned respect in Russia for the results of his government in recent years. But he "rules "in the same spirit:" the state is me ", which means that the old style of leadership is still supported. Maybe he wanted and was ready to do more, more decisively; but it is possible that there is an anti-national opposition at the" top "(duma, government, military , business, politician
  50. mamont5
    mamont5 17 May 2014 05: 39
    0
    We got already with their sanctions. Obama again waving his sanctions again, not forgetting to pat between Ukraine, that obedient ones are doing as Uncle Sam orders.

    "US President Barack Obama has threatened Russia with new sanctions if Moscow does not change its policy towards Ukraine. This statement was made by the American leader during a telephone conversation with French President Francois Hollande," the White House reports.
    President Obama praised the Ukrainian government's efforts to unify the country through free and fair presidential elections on May 25, which will lead to an inclusive constitutional reform process, "the US presidential administration said in a statement.
    http://top.rbc.ru/politics/17/05/2014/924358.shtml