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How to make the fear of the DPRK rational

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While the attention of the world community is focused on events in Ukraine, passions in other parts of the world do not subside. For example, a diplomatic scandal broke out on the Korean Peninsula the other day: two Koreas quarreled again. So far, fortunately, without shooting. But both Southerners and Northerners love to back up their words with actions, so the situation remains quite explosive.

War on words

North Korea should cease to exist - this was stated by the South Korean Ministry of Defense. A spokesman for the department, Kim Min-Sook, severely criticized the North Korean system of government, and accused the DPRK leader Kim Jong-un that everything inside the country exists solely to meet his personal needs. In such circumstances, there is no need to talk about human rights - the South Korean official ended his speech with such a thesis.

The words of Kim Min-Suk were a response to insults against South Korean President Park Geun-hye, who was called a “political prostitute” at the North Korean Foreign Ministry on the occasion of the introduction of regular sanctions against North Korea. To be honest, North Korean officials gave a succinct description of the leader of a neighboring state, but unacceptable from the point of view of diplomacy. After all, Park Geun-hye trades in his country, effectively surrendering it to the United States. By the way, the president of the United States in the DPRK was called the "evil monkey", which, in general, is also close to the truth, although it sounds rude.

All parties involved in the scandal, have traditionally managed to “express outrage” by the actions of opponents. In general, an ordinary case: such diplomatic demarches happen very often. More than the United States, Japan and South Korea have to worry in cases where the DPRK conducts missile tests or carries out underground nuclear explosions: then the defense departments of these countries are on high alert, waiting for some kind of trick. But in North Korea, they are aware of the risks, and are limited to a demonstration of power.

Old feud

Formally, the DPRK and the Republic of Korea are still in a state of war. Tensions between these countries persist since the days of the Korean War. The recent aggravation of the situation is not an exception: the warring states periodically enter into diplomatic and military clashes with each other for the past 60 years. Since the end of the Korean War, thousands of people have died in minor border incidents on both sides. Suffice it to recall, for example, the 1966-1969 crisis in the demilitarized zone, the attempted assassination of South Korean President Pak Jong Hee in 1968, or the Rangoon 1983 bombing of the year — another attempt to kill the leader of the Republic of Korea, this time Jong Doo Hwan.

New difficulties in relations between Pyongyang and Seoul arose when the DPRK became close to possessing nuclear weapons. After the first nuclear tests were carried out in North Korea, the country was subjected to sanctions by the UN Security Council. The resolution adopted by the Security Council allows for the inspection of aircraft and ships bound for the DPRK to freeze banking transactions and accounts of legal entities and individuals from North Korea.

As part of the sanctions, unprecedented measures were taken, such as allowing North Korean diplomats to be searched for large sums of money for the development of a nuclear missile program. This is a direct violation of diplomatic immunity, which goes against all world standards. But is Washington interested in this? Unfortunately, the right of force has not been canceled.

How to justify cruelty

Despite the fact that a hostile neighbor with nuclear weapons makes the guard, Japan and South Korea derive their benefits from the existence of the DPRK. First of all, we are talking about the rapid militarization of these states, especially Japan: in Tokyo, they are seriously discussing the possibility of turning the Self-Defense Forces into a full-fledged army that will be ready to carry out military operations both inside and outside the country. Of course, this new army can be used by Japan against Russia and China as part of the struggle for control of the Pacific Islands.

In South Korea, the armed forces also receive good funding, and the generals are full and satisfied. It is worth noting that the transition of the Republic of Korea to a democratic form of government took place only at the end of the 80s: before that, the country was headed by a junta, which, thanks to horror stories about the threat from the DPRK, was able to hold on to power for about a quarter of a century. The first president of the republic was a tough autocrat and anti-communist, so at first the situation in both Koreas was similar, except that supporters of capitalism were persecuted in the North, and supporters of communism in the South.

By the way, on the fight against imaginary enemies: the ongoing conflict of the DPRK and the Republic of Korea contributes to the mobilization of the inhabitants of the South. The authorities are actively using this, and under the pretext of “saving democracy” they can act contrary to the wishes of the majority of voters. Say, if you, our compatriots, will not tolerate our whims, our country will become weaker and will be conquered by northerners. And although the “hot” war between the two Koreas now seems fiction, this mechanism of voluntary coercion works without failures. No wonder the Koreans suffered a long-term military dictatorship!

Screen for imperialism

As for the USA, the existence of the DPRK is also beneficial for Washington. Under the pretext of confrontation with North Korea in the region of Japan and the Yellow Sea concentrated an impressive group of American armed forces. It is not difficult to guess that it acts as a deterrent not so much for the DPRK as for continental China. With all the desire, the North Korean missiles will not reach the shores of America, while the PRC is able to incinerate several American cities. Therefore, the real threat to the United States is China, and North Korea acts only as a cover for the aggressive policies of Washington.

In this regard, the problem of North Korea was noticed only after Pyongyang mastered nuclear weapons and became a real threat to Japan and South Korea. Only then did they sound the alarm in Seoul and Tokyo, but this did not help much: the United States remained outside the seat of tension, and imposed the same ineffective sanctions as on Russia. In Washington, they quite seriously stated that from now on the residents of North Korea would not be able to buy ... yachts and race cars abroad. Just think, the irreparable damage to the North Korean economy! How to live in the DPRK without a Formula 1 car?

It can be summarized: until the “zero” years, North Korea was a profitable horror story for Japan, South Korea and the USA. After the DPRK acquired nuclear weapons, the threat from her was real, not ghostly, and this was taken into account in Seoul and Tokyo, but not in Washington. The United States doesn’t take North Korea seriously, and under the “fight against dictatorship” brand they flood East Asia with their own troops. To then come to grips with China.
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  1. Bayonet
    Bayonet 16 May 2014 08: 07
    -30%
    "North Korea must cease to exist," said the South Korean Ministry of Defense. "It's high time. A poor country with nuclear weapons and unpredictable behavior is simply dangerous!
    1. smile
      smile 16 May 2014 08: 36
      +18
      Bayonet
      You want to say that if the country was forced to become impoverished thanks to a half-century blockade, forced to arm itself, threatening its existence, then it would be completely democratic and predictable to destroy it?
      You know, of course, in North Korea there are problems with democracy, but the veracity of those media that describe life in the UK has even more problems .... make an opinion based on the lies of Western media and speak out that any country should cease to exist .... to put it mildly, unreasonable, albeit tolerant and liberal .... congratulations. :)))
      By the way, the Western media lie only about a little less about us and our aggressiveness than about Korea (as much is impossible, because the lies will turn out too wild). Shouldn't we live too? :)))
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 16 May 2014 10: 28
        -7
        Do not engage in demagoguery. Personally, I don't care about "aggressive Western media"! I listened to people who visited the DPRK.
        Quote: smile
        the country was forced to become impoverished thanks to a half-century blockade
        North Korea itself was fenced off from all over the world by an iron curtain.
        Quote: smile
        , although it is tolerant and liberal .... congratulations. :)))

        And this verbiage in general is a masterpiece of elegant literature!
        1. Ujin61
          Ujin61 16 May 2014 13: 00
          +4
          I heard a jingle but don’t know where it is. An objective assessment can only be given if you personally go there. According to the zombie man and the media, you see and evaluate someone else’s point of view whereby this or that side of what is happening depends on the owners of the programs and newspapers. Example-ukroSMD.
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 16 May 2014 19: 50
            -8
            There is such a patriotic TV channel "Zvezda", do you trust it? Here is a link to a film about the DPRK filmed by their journalist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQf5mBNXwkA
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 17 May 2014 13: 00
              0
              Apparently the mind didn’t have enough to follow the link or like the Kim mode, that's the minuses ...
              1. Andrey Gladkikh
                Andrey Gladkikh 17 May 2014 20: 02
                +1
                Although I myself did not put a minus, but I understand the reason why others put it. It is extremely difficult to dispute the opinion that: "An objective assessment can only be given on the condition that you personally visit there. You see and evaluate someone else's point of view through zomboyaschik and the media, and this or that side of what is happening, depending on the hosts of programs and newspapers, sticks out." But you are trying hard to do it. Therefore, they minus.
                1. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 18 May 2014 08: 19
                  0
                  I’m not going to argue with anyone, I just once again became convinced of what two troubles Russia has.
        2. smile
          smile 16 May 2014 14: 00
          +3
          Bayonet
          I also heard. They say different things. And that they were assigned an "observer", and that they live in poverty. But no one told anything particularly terrible, not typical of Southeast Asia. Yes, the country is militarized, but not very good with food. especially when you consider. that there are very few lands suitable for agricultural use. Yes. their propaganda is naive and ridiculous. But that's all. I repeat, nothing was said to justify the destruction of the country.
          Regarding the Iron Curtain - I don’t know how super-super-informed to not know. that they are trying to strangle the country in a blockade. All the tales of the Americans about what they feed the Koreans - the tales - the Americans, demanding to close the nuclear program of the Koreans (including the peaceful one) promise them in return that they will refuse to create nuclear weapons and develop the vital nuclear energy - they often promise food supplies and hydrocarbons. And then the supply breaks. Is always. But this is no longer screaming. The fact that the UK agreed to abandon nuclear weapons in exchange for an agreement with the United States on the non-use of force, and the United States refused to give written guarantees. that they won’t be happy with aggression should say a lot ... to someone who wants to hear.
          And a "masterpiece of fine literature" is a diagnosis of the statements of people who, in accordance with the trend of "world civility", insist on the destruction of a country that does not want to lie under the beacon of planetary democracy ... you can also say that your statement is creative and fresh - for 70 years did not deteriorate ... :)))
      2. Logos
        Logos 16 May 2014 16: 21
        0
        What kind of blockade are we talking about? Unlike the US and the EU, China and Russia did not join the blockade against the DPRK, so the DPRK had access to their resources and a potential market.

        And I remembered now that when they talk about the current possible sanctions (= blockade) against Russia, then patriotic citizens add that they supposedly will stimulate domestic production and the economy and that this will ultimately be good. Why not apply such logic to the DPRK? Why did their American sanctions not stimulate production and the economy, huh?
        1. smile
          smile 16 May 2014 20: 48
          +2
          Logos
          Are you laughing, comparing the DPRK with Russia? The country has virtually no resources, they do not have enough land suitable for agriculture. In the nineties, Yeltsin cut almost all ties with them. We will have growth because most of what we export now, we did before ourselves - and sanctions will return everything to normal, They will just force us ...
          And due to the fact that the UK borders with China. MK is alive ... but take it. that China greatly and, most importantly, unselfishly helps her - a big mistake - he needs to develop his poor provinces. Do you understand that many firms, banks found to be working in cooperation with the North Korean are punished? Do you think it is easy to achieve at least something in such conditions? By the way, sanctions are not only American ... take an interest ... and think carefully.
      3. Bayonet
        Bayonet 17 May 2014 12: 56
        0
        Quote: smile
        would it be completely democratic and predictable to destroy it?

        By the way, DESTROY, YOU said, not I. "To end your existence" is quite another. The Roman Empire, the Russian Empire, and then the USSR ceased to exist - no one will deny this fact? It's time for the Kim regime to end its existence!
  2. Revolver
    Revolver 16 May 2014 08: 09
    0
    According to the photo: the rows are crooked, they would have to see the parade on May 9 for a sample. But they try - you can’t take it away.
  3. KC4E
    KC4E 16 May 2014 08: 44
    +9
    In fact, the people of North Korea are in a difficult situation. North Korean workers come to Russia to earn money and 30% of their salaries are given to the Communist Parties of North Korea. And in the country itself there is a tough regime: the country is one solid army, salaries are very small, and food is expensive. In the event of a military conflict, they only need a lightning victory (which is almost impossible), in a protracted war, without help from outside, North Korea, as a country, will not be. Theoretically, South. and North. It would be more profitable for the Koreans to unite, after all, one people.
    1. smile
      smile 16 May 2014 09: 02
      +4
      KC4E
      Taxes in most prosperous capstran countries are much higher than 30 percent. I suppose they have enough resources to wage a long guerrilla war and slam the door loudly. Of course, it would be better if they united .... but firstly, the real owners of the South Caucasus, the USA are not interested, secondly, they have become very different, so many ideologists from both sides lied to their citizens about each other .. . even their language is now very different ..... By the way, in a protracted war, without help from outside South Korea, it also seems a little ....
      1. KC4E
        KC4E 16 May 2014 09: 47
        +1
        South Korea already has allies, but I don’t observe any candidates on the side of North Korea. I agree with you about guerrilla and sabotage war. If the main points in North Korea are captured (i.e. direct occupation), then what Of course, if the allies of the South will just watch the conflict, it is clear to everyone that the "north" will have a victory.
        1. smile
          smile 16 May 2014 10: 02
          +3
          KC4E
          Do not forget that sanctions and blockades apply to the IC, it is known by whose team. This also affects the existence of allies. Moreover, only Americans will climb the South Caucasus, in the same way. as for the SK - only the Chinese, on whom, in the end, it depends - to live the SK or die .... And the allies of those who are not very rich do not like, do you not know that? :)))
          And partisans in Korea can be for years - half of the North Caucasus is there, if not more — mountainous and wooded area, large population, what to expect from Americans and South Koreans — they know very well, and this is not Iraq .... so that the partisan war will drag on for years, with all the attendant charms ....
          1. KC4E
            KC4E 17 May 2014 08: 40
            -1
            China, in case of conflict, at least has to be on the side of North Korea. Why should China have NATO bases at hand?
        2. Starshina wmf
          Starshina wmf 16 May 2014 10: 45
          +1
          The DPRK has an ally, China. Although behind the scenes, it helps for sure.
          1. Alex_Popovson
            Alex_Popovson 16 May 2014 12: 34
            0
            No, China has long been no longer an ally in full understanding. China absolutely does not need a beggar and from this crazy neighbor. It is possible that the next conflict on the Korean peninsula will end with the annexation of the DPRK territories. Or full-scale genocide of the population of these territories. Or maybe both
            1. sebast
              sebast 18 May 2014 15: 03
              -1
              Quote: Alex_Popovson
              No, China has long been no longer an ally in full understanding. China absolutely does not need a beggar and from this crazy neighbor.

              This is not the first time I've heard a Western propaganda stamp. What is the craziness?
          2. KC4E
            KC4E 17 May 2014 20: 18
            -1
            After all, in the 1950-1953 war, the Chinese helped North Korea ... Perhaps, if something happens, they will help now.
        3. Ujin61
          Ujin61 16 May 2014 13: 08
          +2
          If it weren’t for China, North Korea would not have been in the 50s of the last century. Without Chinese support in modern conditions, they would have been economically strangled for a long time.
          1. Alex_Popovson
            Alex_Popovson 16 May 2014 14: 12
            0
            If not for China, North Korea would not have been

            Well, well, but the fact that the USSR is the main technological and intellectual friend of the DPRK was you not taken into account? 50s, haha, you’re probably mocking me, but then China was so poor that it could send a hundred thousandth volunteer corps, well, several tens of thousands over. Moreover, China concentrated its forces just on the border with Russia, in view of the weakening of the political component of the USSR
            Remark. Remember how Putin gave away one unremarkable islet to China? Do you know the sign WHAT it was?
            1. KC4E
              KC4E 17 May 2014 09: 13
              0
              And I will support you too. In the 50s, the USSR sent food, weapons, uniforms to North Korea, there was tremendous financial assistance, and specialists from the USSR taught Koreans ...
    2. Alex_Popovson
      Alex_Popovson 16 May 2014 09: 30
      0
      It is completely unprofitable, otherwise, a terrible economic and social crisis awaits the United Korea. And do not give an example of the GDR and the FRG. The mentality is different, and the Asians, moreover, if attached to something, so with all my heart
      1. KC4E
        KC4E 16 May 2014 09: 55
        0
        I totally agree.
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 16 May 2014 10: 34
        -4
        Quote: Alex_Popovson
        The mentality is different,

        A large cup of rice every day - will quickly change the mentality and ideology!
        1. Alex_Popovson
          Alex_Popovson 16 May 2014 13: 27
          +3
          Hmm, if we still remember in Russia how well it lived not under the Soviet Union, but under Stalin, and then to hell with this social security, it was hungry! And now let's take into account Asian fanaticism, and get it? We get again two camps in united Korea. Those who are good under capitalism and those who are alien to capitalism by nature. Well, let’s say, even in a perverted form, Juche will be accepted in half of those same capitalists. But this will not be the same union at all, since in spite of everything, clanism and feudalism will develop, now though present but not developed.
          In the end, remember how many people in the GDR that died in Russia did not find themselves under capitalism, but needing a large cup of rice? Remember a recent story? Are you not sorry for people? And put yourself in their place.
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 16 May 2014 17: 01
            -4
            Quote: Alex_Popovson
            Hmm, if we still remember in Russia how well it lived not only in the Soviet Union, but under Stalin,

            Who recalls the Stalinist paradise ??? Those who did not live then or the NKVD veterans?
            1. Alex_Popovson
              Alex_Popovson 16 May 2014 18: 32
              +1
              Let's just say that on this site a lot of people are ready to give a lot for the order in the country. And it would be unfair not to notice that comrade Dzhugashvili nevertheless put this order in place. The very thing that is constantly lacking now.
              1. Bayonet
                Bayonet 16 May 2014 18: 51
                -4
                Quote: Alex_Popovson
                The very thing that is constantly lacking now.

                Watch the Zvezda TV report - 5 days in Korea. I am sure you will like the Korean order.
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQf5mBNXwkA
              2. Bayonet
                Bayonet 16 May 2014 20: 00
                -1
                Based on the theory of the multiplicity of parallel worlds, you and I live in different worlds and we will never understand each other. So let's live peacefully, each in his own world.
    3. pilot8878
      pilot8878 16 May 2014 23: 38
      -1
      But, unfortunately, reunification in the near future is unlikely - the DPRK is beneficial to mattresses as a scarecrow for all of Asia.
    4. figter
      figter 17 May 2014 15: 16
      -1
      I think it will be easier for South Korea if North Korea dies out completely. It is unlikely that the South Koreans will be happy if so many surging parasites join. As follows, this will lead to a shortage of jobs, lower wages and lower living standards of the population of South Korea. Who needs this? However, the industriousness of Koreans cannot be discounted, in years through 20 they will make paradise from North Korea.
  4. 020205
    020205 16 May 2014 08: 49
    +3
    Quote: Bayonet
    A poor country with nuclear weapons and unpredictable behavior is simply dangerous!

    By your logic, Russia should have ceased to exist for a long time?
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 16 May 2014 10: 35
      -1
      Quote: 020205
      By your logic, Russia should have ceased to exist for a long time?

      Do you think our country is poor? I do not think so !
  5. blizart
    blizart 16 May 2014 08: 57
    +8
    Koreans are an example of how peoples torn apart by "geopolitical heavyweights" drift from each other until they become so different that unification becomes impossible. There are many examples of Nepal, Bhutan, Taiwan, the same Pakistan (add from yourself), except that the Germans managed to avoid such a scenario. But I don't understand the note of malevolence in the opinions of Russians. Koreans and Cubans are the only peoples who have remained faithful to the idea, with the help of which the Russians almost "reformatted" the world, which has not lost its appeal even now. The only ones on the planet who are in the world of thoughtless and criminal consumption have chosen voluntary asceticism. And all the years when the former USSR unsuccessfully tried to establish an equal dialogue with the West despising everything and everyone, they did not stop calling black black no matter what. For this do they deserve at least weighted assessments based not on templates (Western again)?
    1. Logos
      Logos 16 May 2014 16: 38
      -1
      1. The idea of ​​Juche, to put it mildly, is different from Marxism
      2. Something is not strongly believed that ordinary North Koreans voluntarily choose such a life. Here are their bosses - yes, voluntarily, but their rulers have a completely different life, not like the common people
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 16 May 2014 20: 01
        -1
        Quote: Logos
        I don’t really believe that ordinary North Koreans voluntarily choose such a life

        Totally agree with you !
  6. lexxxus
    lexxxus 16 May 2014 09: 03
    -1
    While the attention of the world community is riveted to the events in Ukraine, passions in other parts of the globe do not subside.

    A well-known illusionist trick is to divert attention. While the EuroStates are brewing in the Ukrainian boiler, the DPRK is gradually increasing its armament. Yes, and in general can go to action ..
  7. inkass_98
    inkass_98 16 May 2014 09: 05
    0
    Korea should become one country, only it is very difficult to do, since the existence of the DPRK is actually very beneficial to the States and Japan, and South Korea made an economic breakthrough only thanks to a long antagonism from the North and with the support of the West.
    The whole problem of unification is that each side sees itself as a locomotive, which automatically belittles the partner. But to sit down and conduct normal and mutually beneficial negotiations is hindered by the above reasons.
    Any divided country is separated families, destroyed economic ties, broken transport routes. Personally, I think that joining the North to the South would be useful for both parts of the peninsula, only this should be done smoothly and without shock events, as our western friends like. Ideally, as in the process of unification of Germany.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 16 May 2014 10: 39
      -3
      Quote: inkass_98
      each side sees itself as a locomotive

      Compare the powerful locomotive of the South and the hand rail of the North!
  8. Nikich
    Nikich 16 May 2014 09: 44
    0
    Quote: inkass_98
    Korea should become one country, only it is very difficult to do, since the existence of the DPRK is actually very beneficial to the States and Japan, and South Korea made an economic breakthrough only thanks to a long antagonism from the North and with the support of the West.
    The whole problem of unification is that each side sees itself as a locomotive, which automatically belittles the partner. But to sit down and conduct normal and mutually beneficial negotiations is hindered by the above reasons.
    Any divided country is separated families, destroyed economic ties, broken transport routes. Personally, I think that joining the North to the South would be useful for both parts of the peninsula, only this should be done smoothly and without shock events, as our western friends like. Ideally, as in the process of unification of Germany.

    It is unlikely that they will go for it: the Americans, the leaders of the DPRK and South Korea, China, Japan, etc. The only option for their unification is the military path.
  9. samoletil18
    samoletil18 16 May 2014 11: 45
    -1
    The comments say a lot about divided peoples and countries. But the largest divided people in the world is the former USSR. In 1992, it seemed that the new economic order of things would get better and we would all live together in a new way. Healed in a new way, but not together. Everything turned out to be more complicated, and most importantly, the new rulers of new countries did not want to lose absolute power in their territories. The same is on the Korean peninsula. Only hatred towards each other rolls steeper than that of Bandera to Russian. According to the DPRK, the solution lies on the surface - economic cooperation. Only world elites and North Korean do not need this. It is beneficial for them, as they are at the moment.
  10. Palladium900
    Palladium900 16 May 2014 13: 20
    +2
    As for the United States, the existence of the DPRK is beneficial to Washington.
    More recently, I came across a very interesting interview with an Italian journalist, author of many books, a former member of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) Julietto Chiesa. Here is an excerpt: "... My latest discovery: where does all this money come from? I knew the US was producing $ 85 billion every month out of nothing. Computers create them. They pay off their debt with money that they artificially produce from scratch. 100 dollar bills are produced ... in North Korea! There are three places where the US makes its money: two in America and the third in North Korea, near Pyongyang. This is a whole city surrounded by the special services of North Korea, the 69th division. An entire base for the production of dollars has been created there. These are great real American dollars. True, not quite real, there is such an expression: "same-same but different". They are not fake, they are fake at the same time. This is tens of billions every month. Why do Americans make money there? Because North Korea is the most isolated country in the world. In this way, they keep the Korean dictators in power. Most importantly, they thus create secret funding for all the US secret services - the CIA, NSA, and so on. To do this, you do not have to go to the American Senate and ask for an increase in costs for this. Perhaps President Obama himself knows nothing about this. They thus, freely, outside the control of Congress, finance the CIA. Where does this money come from for Ukraine? And to finance the "free" Syrian army? From there, from North Korea! They can buy an entire army in this way. Do you still think that you live in a civilized world ?! This is a crime that is in power, has money, and can kill or buy an entire government.
    1. Praetorian
      Praetorian 17 May 2014 14: 11
      -1
      I wonder is this true? If true, then it becomes even more interesting.
  11. Black
    Black 16 May 2014 14: 07
    +2
    And here are the hrenushki! Ferromagnets are not used! smile
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 16 May 2014 17: 05
      -2
      Leonid Ilyich would see ....
  12. Logos
    Logos 16 May 2014 16: 25
    0
    Quote: smile
    KC4E
    Taxes in most prosperous capstran countries are much higher than 30 percent.

    Higher for those who earn well. Those who live in capitalist countries at the level of an ordinary working North Korean, on the contrary, receive social benefits from these taxes, and do not pay them
  13. Bayonet
    Bayonet 16 May 2014 18: 47
    0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQf5mBNXwkA Пожалуйте в Северную Корею с журналистом телеканала " Звезда ". Может кому и понравится жизнь в КНДР.
    1. KC4E
      KC4E 17 May 2014 19: 45
      0
      Yes, Bayonet, I watched this movie. I liked it. People live in a simple way, very organized, NOT barbarians, as they write about them in some places.
    2. sebast
      sebast 18 May 2014 15: 15
      -1
      The film is very biased and does not attract an objective assessment.
  14. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 16 May 2014 23: 21
    +2
    I think that the Russian Federation should support the DPRK in everything.
  15. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 17 May 2014 02: 15
    +2
    After all, Pak Geun Hye trades his country, in fact giving it to the United States.

    What, let me tell you, is "trade"?

    Is South Korea included in the 10-ku of the richest and most influential countries in the world?
    Or in a giant SAMSUNG ad in New York City's main square? (Samsung is just a headache for American Apple)

    in Tokyo seriously discuss opportunity the transformation of the Self-Defense Forces into a full-fledged army

    This is not an opportunity - this is a reality

    Want to compare JMSDF with the Pacific Fleet?
    Or the Japanese Air Force with our Air Force in the Far East?
    1. Praetorian
      Praetorian 17 May 2014 14: 14
      0
      If not too stubborn, post the data here. I would look with interest.
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 17 May 2014 15: 33
        +1
        Quote: Praetorian
        If not too stubborn, post the data here. I would look with interest.

        Japan Maritime Self Defense Forces (JMSDF) - Japan's Navy Self-Defense Forces. The Japanese fleet has long overtaken the Russian Navy and became the third most powerful naval fleet in the Asia-Pacific region

        Japan is one of the two countries in the world that has donated its main stake not on frigates, but on the construction of destroyers

        Here are the actual results:


        on the left - the Aegis destroyer Atago (a copy of the American Burk), the most powerful ship with a / and 10 thousand tons, 96 rocket launchers and a super-radar SPY-1 capable of distinguishing targets in space (the destroyer ammunition includes extra-atmospheric interceptors SM-3 for the defense of the country from North Korean missiles), on the right - the "outdated" destroyer "Akebono" built in the late 90s, there is also something to tell about - the world's first ship with a radar with an active phased array


        And this is a miracle - the "Akizuki" ("shining moon") type PVO destroyer, 7000 tons - dual-band (X and C) radar FCS-3A with eight AFAR and 128 medium-range anti-aircraft missiles ESSM. Akizuki was created specifically to cover the heavy Aegis destroyers, whose SPY-1 poorly distinguishes low-flying targets.

        Of course, we are not talking about "white elephants", but about whole series - the same Akebone - one of 14 destroyers like "Murasame" and "Takanami" (improved murasame). Aegis destroyers - six units in service. Akizuki - 2 in service, 2 more under construction


        Anti-submarine destroyer Hyuga - sometimes mistaken for an aircraft carrier, but this is not true. It is adapted only for basing helicopters + carries a set of built-in weapons (ESSM and ASROC anti-submarine missiles) + the mentioned FCS-3A radar.
        Armed with JMSDF a pair of such units


        The Japanese have only two problems:
        - lack of shock Tomahawks (prohibited by constitution)
        - the lack of nuclear submarines, however, their absence is compensated for by the massive construction of diesel-electric submarines with Stirling engines (type "Soryu") - they are able to stay on the surface for a couple of weeks, and surpass any nuclear submarine in stealth (which is obvious - any diesel engine is quieter than a nuclear-powered submarine)
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 17 May 2014 16: 01
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          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          Here are the actual results:

          On the way to Baltiysk I met here such a Swedish miracle.
          What is the hangar antenna?
          1. Santa Fe
            Santa Fe 17 May 2014 16: 12
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            Conventional antenna device enclosure

            Cheap and angry, this is the old Orion reconnaissance plane, which was rammed by a Soviet minesweeper
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 17 May 2014 16: 13
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              Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
              Cheap and angry, this is the old Orion scout rammed by a Soviet minesweeper

              Thank you.
              I saw a Norwegian spy live.
              This is the first time.
              hi
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 17 May 2014 17: 25
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          Impressive! You will not say anything ...
        3. Praetorian
          Praetorian 17 May 2014 21: 09
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          Thank you, read.
  16. although
    although 17 May 2014 13: 16
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    Well done, Koreans have been holding on for so many years, we must take an example from them!
  17. KC4E
    KC4E 17 May 2014 19: 38
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    North Korea is the most organized and disciplined country in the world. I respect their people and army. And since the bourgeoisie constantly provokes them and economically oppress them from all sides, I understand why even women there are liable for military service. They live on their own with their heads held high ... DPRK in time built nuclear weapons (in their place I would have done the same), otherwise NATO and there would have already been building "democracy" under the guise of "fighting terrorism."
  18. KC4E
    KC4E 17 May 2014 20: 09
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    It turns out that some commentators on North Korea here do not even know that until 1953 the USSR helped this country with everything necessary against the troops of South Korea and the American troops. That in that war, our officers were in the headquarters of the troops of North Korea. They taught Koreans and Chinese to use tanks and planes OUR officers. Soviet MIG pilots shot down American planes in the Korean sky. By the way, about 275 Soviet army personnel died in that war. Now there is a lot of literature on this subject. There are even documentaries.
  19. Bayonet
    Bayonet 18 May 2014 08: 52
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    To Juche lovers, I wish to live the way North Korea lives! But if they tried to do this with Russia, the machine would have taken it without hesitation!
  20. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 14 July 2014 07: 47
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