The Pacific front takes shape

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The Pacific front takes shape

Against the background of a sluggish civil war in Ukraine and the intensification of the confrontation between the West and Russia, one should not forget about the “Pacific Front”. The latest conflict between China, on the one hand, and Vietnam and the Philippines, on the other, shows that the Asia-Pacific region can flaunt up at any moment and become one of the leading fronts of the world conflict, which the current world community is gradually slipping into.

Tensions on the Korean Peninsula, the conflict between China and Japan over disputed territories, the dispute over the Spratly Archipelago and the Paracel Islands, which are located in the South China Sea and are subject to a territorial conflict between China, Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Taiwan, there is already a significant gap of time. Everything suggests that the tension in the ATP is growing. Now in the Far East and Southeast Asia there is a war of nerves. The parties exchange statements, pose, the ships and aircraft of the opposing sides pass through disputed territories, and the development of disputed islands and shelves is underway. Vietnam riots, there are dead and wounded. Participants protest storming Chinese and other foreign enterprises. It is difficult to predict when and where it will flare up in full force. But one thing is clear, the United States, this situation is beneficial. America is ready to fight to the last drop of blood Korean, Japanese or Vietnamese. The main goal in the APR is China.

We can not forget about the Russian Far East, which is also of interest to Western TNCs and TNB. Russia in this conflict will not remain a bystander. We will get another source of chaos, now at the Far Eastern borders. The United States and part of the global "elite" rely on chaos and destruction. The war should write off debts, previous commitments, reformat the world, lead to the creation of a New World Order.

Fight for the islands

Vietnam is gripped by anti-Chinese sentiment. Participants in the protests demand the withdrawal of the Chinese oil platform from the disputed section of the South China Sea. May 15 received a message about the death of a 21 person (according to preliminary data, the majority of the dead are Chinese) and a hundred injured. Hundreds of people detained by law enforcement. Demonstrators stormed a Formosa Plastics Group steel plant owned by a Taiwanese corporation in the Vietnamese province of Ha Tinh. In addition, 15 defeated foreign enterprises in the south of the state. Mass protests began on May 11 and were associated with a conflict in the area of ​​disputed islands in the South China Sea.

Taiwanese, Chinese and South Korean enterprises suffered from pogroms. They also touched on the protest actions of other foreign entrepreneurs. Thus, the Singapore Foreign Ministry said that several foreign enterprises had suffered. The rioters broke them and set them on fire. Vietnam-Singapore Industrial Park has been affected. The government of Singapore asked Hanoi to immediately restore order. The Chinese Foreign Ministry called on Vietnam to calm down and respect the sovereignty of the PRC. Taiwan expressed concern, condemned the violence and urged Hanoi to restore order, and to refrain from making hasty decisions that could endanger the long-standing friendly relations between the two countries.

It should be noted that the surge of tension in the region occurred after the visit of the American President Barack Obama, who expressed support for his allies Japan and the Philippines, which have territorial disputes with Beijing. The President of the United States signed an agreement on military cooperation with the Philippine authorities. In addition, Daniel Russell, US Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs, said in April that Beijing should not doubt Washington’s willingness to defend its Asian allies if China uses force to resolve territorial conflicts with its neighbors. Russell said that "should increase the pressure on China."

The reason for the growth of tension in the South China Sea gave China. The Chinese first sent a deepwater drilling rig for hydrocarbon exploration off the Paracel Islands. The rig is owned by a Chinese state oil and gas company and can operate at depths up to 3 km. According to scientists, oil reserves in the South China Sea range from 23 to 30 billion tons, and natural gas - about 16 trillion. cubic meters. Most of the hydrocarbons (about 70%) are located on the deep water shelf. In Vietnam, the Paracel Islands are believed to belong to them. In addition, Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei are involved in a territorial dispute in the South China Sea.


Chinese oil platform in the South China Sea

May 7 Hanoi demanded that Beijing remove the derrick from the South China Sea. Vietnamese Foreign Minister Pham Binh Min held telephone conversations with State Councilor Yang Jiechi and said that Hanoi would take all measures to protect national interests in the South China Sea. Vietnam accused the PRC of violating international laws and the sovereignty of Vietnam. Vietnam demands to remove the oil rig and begin negotiations to resolve the controversial issue. According to the Vietnamese, the Chinese tower is located within the economic zone of Vietnam. The Vietnamese stated that the oil rig was installed on the continental shelf, on which, according to the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, Hanoi has exclusive rights to search for and extract natural resources. The Chinese claim that the tower is located in the territorial waters of the People's Republic of China and makes claims on most of the waters of the South China Sea. Vietnam was supported by the United States. A spokesman for the US State Department, Jen Psaki, called the actions of the PRC provocative and not conducive to maintaining peace and stability in the region.

The Vietnamese were able to prevent the Chinese ships from installing a drilling rig, which was intended to strengthen the existing Chinese drilling platform. The forces were unequal: only one Chinese warship accompanied the platform. Vietnam sent about three dozen ships of the Navy and coast guard to intercept. However, China responded by flotilla in 80 ships. Both sides accused the enemy of aggressive behavior. According to Hanoi, the Chinese rammed several Vietnamese ships and drove them away with water cannons. The Chinese said that the Vietnamese were going to ram. And the use of water cannons was justified by the fact that they are used "on the original Chinese territory." Although a gunshot weapon and did not apply, news agencies reported several injuries.

This collision caused a sharp increase in tension. The Vietnamese and Chinese public accuse each other of aggression and violation of sovereign rights. For example, the Beijing-based Global Times newspaper said: “We need to teach Vietnam the lesson it deserves.” According to Jonathan Landon, a university professor in Hong Kong, the situation in the South China Sea indicates a serious shift in China’s maritime strategy: “Previously, China had declared its claims, and now it is implementing them.” This thought supports the and Leading Researcher, Institute of Far Eastern Studies, Russian Academy of Sciences Alexander Larin. Previously, China kept in the shadows, accumulated strength, now it is possible to realize their plans.

Historical background of the conflict. Disputed Territory Resources

This year marks forty years since the uninhabited Paracel Islands, near which the Chinese drilling platform is located, came under the control of China. The Battle of the Paracel Islands (or the Battle of the Xisha Islands) in 1974 took place between the naval forces of the PRC and South Vietnam. The regime of the Republic of Vietnam that ruled Saigon was on the verge of defeat, and China decided to use the opportune moment. The Chinese under the guise of fishermen landed on several uninhabited islands. Above the islands, the Chinese flag was raised as a sign of the sovereignty of the PRC over them. Vietnamese ships began to shoot Chinese flags. There was a shootout with the Chinese. Vietnamese ship rammed a Chinese fishing boat. The leadership of the People's Republic of China gave the order to “free” the islands. Additional Chinese forces arrived in the area. The clash of naval forces led to the victory of the Chinese. According to Vietnamese data, China has thrown into battle four rocket boats of the "Komar" type. The Chinese sank the Nat Tiao corvette HQ-10 (former American minesweeper). Earlier, the HQ-16 frigate Lee Thхong Kiet (a former American coastal defense ship) received heavy damage. The rapid loss of one of the ships and the heavy damage of the other forced the Vietnamese to retreat. After the departure of the South Vietnamese ships, the Chinese forced the small Vietnamese ground forces to capitulate. During this short battle, the Vietnamese lost 52 people dead and 16 wounded, and the Chinese 18 people killed and 67 wounded. According to the Chinese, all their ships survived, although they were damaged. As a result, China established control over the controversial Paracel Islands. Since then, on one of the disputed islands - Woody, the Chinese built an airfield, a rescue center and deployed a military garrison.

The dispute over the Spratly archipelago also has a long history (Spratly Islands - a zone of possible military conflict in Southeast Asia). And besides the PRC and Vietnam, it also claims to be Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei. Islands are not inhabited. This archipelago in the southwestern part of the South China Sea consists of more than 100 islands, reefs, atolls, which have a total area of ​​less than 5 square. km There are also hundreds more islets submerged in water. At various times the islands were controlled by Spaniards, Americans, Filipinos, then the French were firmly established on them. The French have rejected the claims to the islands. During World War II, the islands were taken over by the Japanese, then the French returned to them (from them they transferred to the Vietnamese as “legacy”) and the Chinese. Later on, China, Vietnam, Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei created their outposts on the islands. The largest number of islands belongs to Vietnam, followed by China and the Philippines.

Conflicts happen from time to time. So, 1988 year, there was a clash of the Chinese and Vietnamese Navy. Johnson Reef (Xin Kou) killed three Vietnamese and one Chinese patrol. China again won, which expanded its area of ​​control. In the future, clashes became common, but it did not reach serious battles.

In fact, Paracel and Spratly are a bunch of bare rocks and reefs in the sea. However, they have military-strategic importance - control over the South China Sea water area and sea communications. The islands are located on the most important sea routes from the Indian Ocean to the Pacific. For China, they are of great importance, as they connect the country with the Middle East, Africa and Western Europe. According to him, vital resources come to China. In addition, in recent decades, the role of resources that can be obtained at sea has increased. Thus, the area of ​​disputed islands is rich in biological resources. We should not forget about the hydrocarbons that are on the shelf. Both Paracel and Spratly are regarded by experts as the most promising for hydrocarbon development in the region. At the same time, the volume of real hydrocarbon reserves cannot be calculated. The Chinese in their forecasts are the most optimistic. Taking into account the factors of the rapid growth of the population and the economies of the Asia-Pacific countries, the natural resources of the South China Sea are a serious reason to fight.

In addition, you can not throw off with the account and the usual patriotism. The same China and Vietnam have an old history of hostility, and are not going to yield to each other. Political leadership cannot lose face with its people. In China and Vietnam, the local middle class, which is the carrier of the ideology of nationalism, has grown significantly. At present, Southeast Asia can be compared with Europe before the First World War. People demand “historical justice” and desire revenge for past defeats. Territorial disputes have long been a serious prerequisite for the growth of nationalist sentiment.

China's position

China’s policy is about getting the most out of what’s possible. Therefore, Beijing declared about 80% of the entire water area of ​​the South China Sea its sovereign territory. The Chinese proceeded from the location of the islands, they consider them their "original territory", and if so, the territorial waters around them also belong to them (hence the 80% of the sea area). It is clear that in no case does not suit the neighbors of China, who have their own claims to the islands. And they are not going to give up. And on the edge of the conflict are Vietnam and the Philippines, which will lose the most from Beijing's appetites. China on notes of protest from neighboring states said that there would be no obstruction to free trade and the movement of ships through its “internal waters” and for now this word holds. However, this cannot suit the neighboring countries. Previously, maritime communications were free, the flow of goods on them was natural and was not subject to doubt. Now everything is under the control of China and the consequence of their goodwill. In 2013, the Chinese police received the right to land inspection teams on foreign ships in the South China Sea, inspect them and, if necessary, take control.

It should be noted that the Chinese have consistently objected to the convening of a conference of all interested parties on the current problems of the South China Sea with the participation of observers from the world community. They prefer bilateral negotiations. In such a situation, China is insured against the fact that several states will put pressure on it at once (an anti-Chinese coalition will be created) with the inevitable attraction of a third force, that is, the United States, which have interests in the region and are interested in the role of arbitrator. To argue with each party separately for Beijing is much more profitable and calmer.

In a bilateral format, China makes compromises, but gradually pushes its interests. Moreover, China’s concessions are often indicative. In particular, there have already been several projects for joint exploration and production of gas and oil in disputed areas. But gradually, China cuts off competitors and becomes the main process manager. In addition, in recent years, a tendency has emerged in the APR on territorial issues to toughen the position of rival countries. All states, depending on the budget, are building up naval and air forces, conducting demonstrative military exercises, looking for allies.

To be continued ...
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  1. +12
    16 May 2014 08: 12
    It was necessary to write: The United States is striving to make war with China by someone else's hands - in general, nothing new! And the surrounding "pugs" themselves do not dance against China!
    And yet: does anyone know where the Russian-Chinese exercises will take place? By chance in the wrong region?
    1. +4
      16 May 2014 09: 01
      ... And suddenly in the USA HERE SUCH ARTICLES:
      US Weapons Systems China Should Fear (Tkhe National Interest, USA)

      The article analyzes the US Armed Forces, with these phrases:
      ... Currently, the fleet has 11 submarines of the Virginia class. In total, it is planned to purchase at least 30 submarines. The Virginia class is an exceptional means of naval warfare with an extremely vulnerable fleet. Virginia-class submarines will have great advantages in future conflict with China.

      It seems that we again do not know something ???

      Read more: https: //inosmi.ru/scorld/20140516/220328226.khtmlyaikhzz31
    2. +3
      16 May 2014 09: 20
      Pass in the northern part of the East China Sea. It is closer to South Korea and Japan.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. +5
        16 May 2014 09: 55
        the most disturbing author said at the end of his article:
        To be continued ...
        1. +5
          16 May 2014 11: 59
          And here's an American April article:
          Russia and Vietnam unite in opposition to China ("The National Interest", USA)
          Читать далее: http://inosmi.ru/world/20140408/219390600.html#ixzz31ra8O7s0

          Bl..diny are preparing a new conflict, only now in the East !!!
  2. parus2nik
    +10
    16 May 2014 08: 24
    The USA is simply striving to bring the world to an end of the world ...
    1. KC4E
      +6
      16 May 2014 11: 11
      Slightly correct ..... smile .... push everyone with all their foreheads, and remain the masters of the world themselves.
  3. +3
    16 May 2014 08: 28
    East is a delicate matter, mattresses remember Vietnam, I think they will break off this time too ...
  4. +1
    16 May 2014 08: 30
    The third world should be. And where it starts - options are possible, not from Ukraine, but from Southeast Asia. Otherwise, the US will not survive.
    1. +3
      16 May 2014 09: 06
      - Have you ordered a fight?
      -N-no? !!
      -Late paid!
      1. xan
        +1
        17 May 2014 10: 04
        Quote: blizart
        - Have you ordered a fight?
        -N-no? !!
        -Late paid!

        It's like in the movie "The Professional"
        -I'm Jacques Mattress, packaging
        - And I'm Jean-Paul Belmondo, scuffle and a fight.
        - I did not call you!
        - relax, paid.
    2. KC4E
      +2
      16 May 2014 09: 29
      That the United States, that China are potential enemies for Russia. Who doubts, ask any military officer who studied under the Soviet program at the Higher Education Institutions.
  5. -3
    16 May 2014 09: 07
    Perhaps the stars somehow influence the world - astrologers say so directly: http://adonay-forum.com/tretya_mirovaya_voyna_nachalas_prorochestva_ezoterikov_s
    byivayutsya / astrolog_v_2014_godu_nachnetsya_tretya_mirovaya_voyna_ukraina_i_es_r
    aspadutsya/?PHPSESSID=916a1163fbfdd02dbd1fbdfdd3f1cf5a
    1. +4
      16 May 2014 19: 19
      Perhaps the stars somehow influence the world - astrologers say so directly


      Maybe. Just do not read this mediocre pseudo-astrologer Globe!
  6. +3
    16 May 2014 09: 20
    I think China will cope with the challenges in the region ... its leadership ... relying on the specific philosophy of their ancestors and not making sudden movements, reaches the desired goals.

    We just need to remember ... we are just companions for them on a certain historical (the 1000th anniversary is not a time limit for China) time span.
  7. KC4E
    +4
    16 May 2014 09: 22
    The Chinese began to "show their fangs", and they brazenly seize the islands, without fear. In case of a conflict against China, Vietnam is a pity ... It's a pity that they are no longer allies with Russia (as it was under the USSR).
    1. 0
      16 May 2014 20: 46
      The Philippines also "took up arms" against China! The United States agreed to use the Clark Field and Subic Bay bases by the Yankees in response to China's actions over the escalation of tensions in the South China Sea (dispute over the Nansha and Xisha Islands)! It looks like "porridge" can be brewed serious!
  8. Nikich
    +1
    16 May 2014 09: 38
    Sooner, early you lose Vietnam. He’ll spoil China’s blood. And in any case: What is it for us? If China gets stuck in a war with Vietnam and weaken from this war we are even better. And maybe the United States gets involved ...
    1. +4
      16 May 2014 10: 35
      Well, here it seems to us that Vietnam and China would not be profitable. We have friendly relations with both. We are being held hostage by the situation. what if one of them asks for help. And what to do?

      PS: I like Vietnam - 4 times already rested there!
      And I want to go to China too.
      So I am against such aggressive actions between them.
      1. 0
        16 May 2014 11: 46
        correctly think !!! I am against any military actions and as a result .. drawing in one way or another conflict, but sometimes conflicts have a positive long-term effect.
      2. 0
        16 May 2014 20: 48
        And who is for the war ?! We are always for world peace! Yes
    2. KC4E
      0
      16 May 2014 11: 00
      And I am for the PLA to look away from us. We will have a little more time to come to our senses. And the United States will not get involved - they will only observe ... and deliver weapons ....
  9. gsg955
    +1
    16 May 2014 09: 43
    BECAUSE AND WILL GET TO RUSSIA.
  10. Andrey82
    0
    16 May 2014 11: 13
    Russia and China should, in contrast to the United States, providing assistance to the most cannibalistic groups (Syria), provide assistance to such groups in the United States, Lat. America, Asia - (Mara Salvatrucha for example). Let them drown in blood. You can also not prevent Iran from creating nuclear weapons. We were not the first to start, but as Sergius of Radonezh used to say, “If you respond to evil with good, then how can you respond to good?”
    Permanent defense is the path to defeat. North America needs a new Vietnam.
  11. +4
    16 May 2014 11: 18
    China needs a little war to assert itself and test its army and navy.
    1. KC4E
      +1
      16 May 2014 11: 43
      That's for sure. So to say, small "rehearsals" before a big "concert".
  12. +2
    16 May 2014 12: 26
    With one small victorious war, China receives a strategic resource, increased morale of the entire nation, the authority of the army, respect for allies and potential adversaries, an increase in living space, economic growth, including the growth of the military-industrial complex, and a slight decrease in the population during the war will be compensated during next year or two. From the foregoing, war should be rather than not be.
    Inevitably, the role of inclusion in the conflict at a certain stage as a peacemaker, i.e. 3 parties to the negotiations. China will refuse services of the USA.
    China has accumulated sufficient power and abandoning claims for China means losing face, and this is not permissible.
    1. 0
      19 May 2014 00: 03
      Where the adversary is Vietnam, China may not succeed in a victorious war. By the way, remember, Vietnam recently received submarines, in my opinion even from us?
  13. +1
    16 May 2014 12: 35
    Quote: KC 4
    Slightly correct ..... smile .... push everyone with all their foreheads, and remain the masters of the world themselves.

    I will complement you, to push everyone with all their heads, to sell weapons to all parties to the conflict (1-2 World Wars), to assure them of friendship only, and to be the main "regulator" of the conflict. As a result, there is devastation all around, in the countries of "discord" in chocolate with dividends. From the collapse, this saved them a couple of times, and now they desperately need a global "kipish", otherwise the state of the economy is "awful" and the debt goes off scale again, unemployment is high, and so all the rules are peace in war, we all need in general VERY GOOD.
    1. Andrey82
      0
      16 May 2014 13: 32
      So why not push everyone's foreheads, if those whom they push themselves allow them to do this with themselves? Why, for example, does not support everyone who fights with amers weapons, finances? Why wait when they will incite someone against us and we will be connected by conflicts almost along the entire perimeter of our borders (Ukraine, Georgia, Central Asia)?
      Why aren’t our bases near the Sevamericans in Lat. America, do we have their bases near us? Is this such a giveaway game with a stronger opponent?
      1. +6
        16 May 2014 20: 25
        Quote: Andrey82
        Why aren’t our bases near the Sevamericans in Lat. America, do we have their bases near us? Is this such a giveaway game with a stronger opponent?

        Nice man! The forum has a certain Oleg Kaptsov, so he counted 800 American bases around the world. By your naive logic, you need to build 1000 Russian? But where to get the money for it, if the US budget is 8-10 more? That is, roughly speaking, for each ship, plane, tank, base, Americans can build a few pieces.
        Therefore, your calls to answer "bash for bash" will only undermine the Russian economy. For now, we need to think about "asymmetric" responses to external threats. And it is necessary to develop industry (respectively, of course, science, etc.). If in terms of manufacturability and industrial capacity we catch up and overtake the United States, then victory in the hypothetical conflict will be assured.
        And your calls to arm Iran (!) With nuclear weapons are generally quiet horror. The USA is very far from Iran, but here we are.
        There will be a strong high-tech industry in Russia - everything else (politico-militaryly) will follow.
        1. 0
          19 May 2014 00: 05
          Himself wanted to answer about Iran, ahead of.
      2. KC4E
        0
        17 May 2014 08: 06
        Well, yes! Our bases are not there, but submarines with strategic missiles are floating off the coast of America, just in case.
  14. 0
    16 May 2014 13: 12
    Quote: KC 4
    Slightly correct ..... smile .... push everyone with all their foreheads, and remain the masters of the world themselves.

    Ie rowing loot excavator for the supply of weapons, etc.
  15. Nikich
    -1
    16 May 2014 13: 54
    Quote: Andrey82
    So why not push everyone's foreheads, if those whom they push themselves allow them to do this with themselves? Why, for example, does not support everyone who fights with amers weapons, finances? Why wait when they will incite someone against us and we will be connected by conflicts almost along the entire perimeter of our borders (Ukraine, Georgia, Central Asia)?
    Why aren’t our bases near the Sevamericans in Lat. America, do we have their bases near us? Is this such a giveaway game with a stronger opponent?

    Because because of the stool, our army is now rather weak. And Putin leads an incomprehensible game.
    1. Andrey82
      0
      16 May 2014 21: 18
      We will invest in grandiose events such as the Sochi Olympics (a thing absolutely necessary), forgetting about the distraction of the United States in other regions of the world - we’ll definitely rake in full. We already had a swamp. No one and nothing can guarantee the repetition of thousands of riots such as nat. soil (Manezhnaya was also not only it).
      By the way, this is simply amazing - we have tens of billions of cu at the Olympics, and for example several billion cu we have no money to support those who are fighting against the neocolonial empire of the United States. Perhaps there would be no such US intervention in Ukraine now. As if we didn’t have to pay tens, perhaps hundreds of billions, for our greed and most importantly, by the thousands of lives of our children if the events follow the worst-case scenario and Russia is directly drawn into the conflict.
  16. 0
    16 May 2014 14: 20
    I would suggest not promoting what is not profitable for us. My neighbors quarreled yesterday - so what? To inflate this until some lawyer (gag) from usania comes running with smart advice?
    Think, correspondents, before covering anything.
  17. Leshka
    +1
    16 May 2014 14: 51
    everywhere is good where we are not
  18. +1
    16 May 2014 15: 59
    Personally, I remember that Vladivostok and Sevastopol — ships of the Mistral type — must go to the Pacific Ocean. Who stirs up water that Sevastopol will go to the Black Sea. ???? Their service is the Pacific Ocean. Everything has long been stated. It's my opinion. Who wants to, look in the internet. The Pacific is our granary, health resort and forge. Someone who refuses to do this is just an unwise person. Our leadership is doing the right thing. I personally agree with him.
    1. -2
      16 May 2014 16: 20
      At least in the Quiet, at least in Sevastopol. Mistral is a big pile of iron, the purpose is not very clear. Unless, as a floating base and only.
  19. 0
    16 May 2014 17: 50
    it's time to finish the usa! and there will be WORLD in the whole world!
  20. -1
    16 May 2014 18: 27
    obviously the State Department’s hand until it is chopped off will pull the handles wherever needed
  21. 52
    +1
    16 May 2014 18: 56
    Of course, China and the DRV are dogging each other, but this is kind of historical. A predicted war is one of the options, but nothing more. There is, for example, a completely idiotic option, but from the point of view of Asian logic: the PRC is engaged in a type of war with the DRV, peacekeepers from Japan and the Philippines appear under this bench, and then the combined forces of "opponents" suddenly smash the peacekeepers, after which the region goes to the PRC and a small part of the DRV (hydrocarbons, damn them). Or something else can be nailed, since human lives there are no more expensive than a good dinner, and there are not many countries that really fought, anything can be. To the author of the article, Thank you!
  22. 0
    16 May 2014 19: 10
    From today's article in the Chinese newspaper People's Daily: "Vietnamese ships rammed Chinese ships 13 times on Tuesday, May 169 alone, a Chinese foreign policy official said. This is the maximum number of such incidents in one day so far." I don't know who was the first to start there, but they shoved each other well, I guess.
  23. 0
    16 May 2014 22: 34
    yes, it’s a pity if China and Vietnam get stuck in a military conflict, it would be better if Russia, China, Vietnam united against America. We can give Vietnam and China, for example, a half of America.)) And return Alaska to us))
  24. -1
    16 May 2014 23: 00
    Mistrals are a clear idiocy, and no one seems to know what to do with them. With regard to the situation in the world, it seems that we see (or show us) only the tip of the iceberg. There is a complex multi-way game, the goal of which is to completely change the world (and what few people know about), to remove the United States from the world arena and to establish a new unified worldview under the auspices of the world government. The ambitions of even large states such as China will be used "in the dark" world behind the scenes. It was not in vain that the deputy defense minister warned in March about the possibility of a major war and said that military operations would most likely take place on Russian territory. So get ready, gentlemen ...
  25. ar-ren
    -2
    16 May 2014 23: 09
    I don’t see the brave cries of "Hurray! Finally we will fight with the USA !!", well, something like - "Russian and Chinese are brothers forever!"

    It would seem that the reason is perfect. All together hate the United States. With China - allies. China is going to fight with the United States. Where is the joy? :)
    1. +2
      17 May 2014 02: 08
      What joy can there be in a war?
  26. leo44
    -1
    16 May 2014 23: 22
    Quote: parus2nik
    The USA is simply striving to bring the world to an end of the world ...


    It is possible, but it’s just they (the states) who begin to understand that the kyrdyk is coming to them, so they are trying to fire the world for themselves! And kyrdyk will be only to the states! This has long been known. Even the prophecy is there. The states will end the civil war on their territory, and then they will have a flood - instead of the states there will be an ocean. The most interesting thing is that neighboring Canada and Mexico will practically not suffer.
  27. leo44
    +1
    16 May 2014 23: 26
    Quote: ar-ren
    I don’t see the brave cries of "Hurray! Finally we will fight with the USA !!", well, something like - "Russian and Chinese are brothers forever!"

    It would seem that the reason is perfect. All together hate the United States. With China - allies. China is going to fight with the United States. Where is the joy? :)


    I do not think that China is going to fight with the states, not for that they are saving their debts and children are taught in their universities. Half of the states are already Chinese, but not yet at the helm, but coming. China can slam the states even without war, intelligently, with oriental wisdom and cunning.
  28. +1
    17 May 2014 04: 19
    China (by the way, in a cooperative with Russia, but was silent about this later) back in 2008, learned to shoot satellites in orbit. So, the US, which has become blind and deaf, is unlikely to be capable of anything. Well, as a resident of the Far East - READY FOR LABOR AND DEFENSE)) the Japanese will not pass)))
    1. KC4E
      0
      17 May 2014 08: 24
      But the Chinese have passed
  29. Polarfox
    0
    17 May 2014 12: 43
    The idea of ​​setting the world on fire from four angles is an ordinary American magic wand in a hopeless situation. Due to its geographical location, the States manage to stay on the sidelines in all major military conflicts, and at the same time they cut a lot of money in the wars provoked by them. Pearl Harbor does not count, because it had no serious consequences. I don’t think that China has the same hot heads at the helm as those in the valiant team of commentators on this site, so China will find a way to squeeze Uncle Sam’s tail. They have already written about the accumulation of an American public debt by China. This also should not be discounted. Therefore, I believe that China will not fight with America. And it will not allow itself to be drawn into local territorial conflicts, just as Russia does not allow itself to be drawn into Ukraine (for which some people here condemn Putin).

    Summary: do not think that the leaders of our allied states that have political weight in the international arena are not aware of the US plans to set fire to the world and have no countermeasures to their credit. Perhaps not at all military. We don’t know much, but this is not a reason to shout "Chief, everything is lost, everything is lost!" Let's wait for China's reaction and see what Obama gets for his Pacific cruise.
  30. 0
    17 May 2014 19: 39
    Until the evil of the world in the person of the United States is destroyed, wars will arise in the world, it is profitable for Americans to pit countries together, to organize civil wars in countries with rich natural resources. From these actions, they have huge profits. As long as the USA does not exist on earth, peace and Russia will be constantly drawn into a showdown.
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    18 May 2014 01: 13
    Have you read Tsushima, or do you know the story? I think there will be no more such stupid rulers and admirals in Russia. (like Christmas) and the king? Na.ren we needed Port Arthur, were there not enough of our own Far East and Kamchatka? A century later, we cannot bring it to mind.
    Sure Will! And Japan narrow mouth (so as not to blather) together with the eyes will organize forever ...
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    19 May 2014 09: 30
    .... Friends, and you do not have the feeling that China will soon grapple with melee with Vietnam ?! belay