Russian rocket engines were out of sanctions

Against the background of incessant American conversations that the US and other Western countries are preparing more and more new packages of sanctions against Russia, information about the American request to increase the scope of cooperation with the Russian Federation in the supply of rocket engines to the United States looks remarkable. The fact that Washington personally asked the Russian NPO Energomash to increase the supply of RD-180 engines to the US, said Vladimir Solntsev, executive director of the association. This information is shared RT.

Vladimir Solntsev:

The American side is asking us to increase the total number of engines for 8 units. They want us to increase the annual supply by a certain amount, in particular, in the 2015 year it is planned that we will supply them with eight engines instead of 5.

The American leadership, having carefully studied the needs of its rocket and space industry, concluded that the increase in deliveries of Russian rocket engines in no way contradicts the sanctions pressure on Russia, which demonstrates a very selective approach to the Western sanctions themselves.

RD-180 - liquid-type rocket engine with a closed cycle. It is equipped with two combustion chambers and two nozzles. In the process of RD-180, kerosene is used as a fuel, and liquefied oxygen is used as an oxidizer.

In the USA, Lockheed Martin has rights to use Russian RD-180 engines. Without the use of engines of this type can not do the program "Atlas". This program, in turn, is designed for the launching of US government and commercial satellites into orbit.

Comments

[andrei332809]

increase in supplies of Russian rocket engines does not contradict sanction pressure on Russia

no, no ... sanctions should be sanctions. buy trampolines

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Well, still .. It’s necessary to pick up cosmonauts from the orbital station ...)) Still, they would impose sanctions on gas ..

[Very old]

As I asked a forum member-rocketer: will all Russian engines go to outer space? (From those sold to Uncle Sam)

Here's what he replied to me in a personal: to tear off the "poultry farm" to the signatory of this agreement
But the number of engines 100 (one hundred) pieces

[jjj]

About three or four days ago there was a message that Russia had banned the use of engines to launch military equipment into orbit. Therefore, the transaction can be adjusted

[igor_m_p]

Quote: jjj

About three or four days ago, there was a message that Russia banned the use of engines to put military equipment into orbit

And a week and a half ago, Canada was broken off with the launch of a military satellite into orbit. The satellite was supposed to be taken out by Soyuz. So a trampoline, robots ... Or a big slingshot

[Russian jacket]

better Maidan catapult. But I'm afraid Svidomo put up such a price tag ...

[wasjasibirjac]

Quote: andrei332809

no, no ... sanctions should be sanctions. buy trampolines

trampolines do not fit - throw up low. better to use a slingshot. banned supplies - it means banned, otherwise we play here, we don’t play here, but here we wrapped the fish.

[mamont5]

Quote: wasjasibirjac

trampolines do not fit - throw up low. better to use a slingshot.

And this is their problem. Let them learn to jump higher.

[andrei332809]

Quote: mamont5

Let them learn to jump higher

offer all the astronauts on the Maidan to study?

[igor_m_p]

Quote: mamont5

Let them learn to jump higher.

And on the upper part of the trajectory, you need to turn on the acceleration module on the base gas ... Well, you know ...

[mad]

Quote: wasjasibirjac

better to use a slingshot

the best slingshot specialists fell like heroes on a business trip to Ukraine, from their own, state snipers ...

[Vasek]

Quote: wasjasibirjac

better to use a slingshot.

Sling of david

[Ased]

Quote: andrei332809

no, no ... sanctions should be sanctions. buy trampolines

Such sanctions will also be beneficial to someone in the United States. I don’t remember the name of the company, but they wanted to receive state subsidies for production. Our engines do not allow the United States to begin its own development.

[Starover_Z]

I will repeat the above written "sanctions, so sanctions!"
And the Chinese will buy engines with great pleasure. Just not to cheapen!
And it's time to supply high-tech products with their own tabs, so that without our service "not a foot"!
And for switching off it would be useful so that they don’t bring anything to our heads!

[jagdpanzer]

the Chinese definitely can’t sell anything!

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Starover_Z

without our service "not a foot"

Well, after all, our same engines also serve, if you believe Rogozin. Another thing is that the price is out of date, has not changed for a long time. And the promised sanctions would not hurt to introduce. Fortunately, smart Americans are not able to reproduce these engines. Let only civilian satellites with Russian engines launch.

[larand]

right, she died so she died. Bucks are bucks, but there should be pride, especially since here and the country's defense is present

[Patriot.ru.]

You can start the development, and when will the result be?

[SS68SS]

And again, double mattress standards. You will decide, ladies and gentlemen of the LIBERA. And then they staged a farce "I remember here, I don't remember here." Disgusting to vomit ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: andrei332809

buy trampolines

There is another option already tested.

[ZU-23]

It is necessary to lower them in space by a dozen engines, so that the head would be thought the next time.

[Truth-lover]

The same is now posted by an ordinary American on a "local to himself" site.
"We need to put them down on XNUMX miles of Pentiums and the same amount of AMD. Let them think with their heads next time ...

[gor530]

I remember fascist Germany before the war of 1939-1941 also tried to stock up for the future with oil and wheat and coal .... it seems to me at the expense of rocket engines the same case. maybe it’s time to begin to grope for painful points at the Americans and act on the principle that America is bad, then Russia is good. not forgetting of course your interests.

[Sterlya]

So the Americans imposed sanctions, as well as in the field of space. what are these engines? A hunchback with EBNy shoot 100 times a little.

[fzr1000]

X ... them, not RD 180.

[SS68SS]

On X ... you will not fly far

[Hariva]

Yes, let’s buy. Only pays with gold. Well, or in rubles heh heh.
In fact, do not take the obsolete dollar.

[diff]

The most correct in this situation is to ring around the entire geyrop about US actions regarding sanctions, otherwise one hundred percent are silent, so that no one would know. The French won over the Mistral with SAMIIIM (god-like frame) for two months, begging him on his knees to finish the ships and not pay a forfeit, but here is such a turn. Actually, on the part of the EU, it would be necessary for the states to present for such a scam

[Alexander Romanov]

I hope ours will send them ON ***

[SS68SS]

Maybe they won't send them, they will tighten the nuts and with the price "by force majeure" you can play ...

[kartalovkolya]

I doubt, however, it is one thing to shake heaven with voices, and another thing is real action!

[Kasym]

You can trade, but ... there was a contract for 101 products for ... 1 million for each. This is funny. Since then, about 20 years have passed. This is a unique CLOSED cycle engine, there are definitely no analogues. And for a million green candy wrappers. Is a mockery. Better leave yourself.
There is one more question. And could they establish production or is it from old stocks that Kuznetsov saved from the Khrushchev massacre?
It's horrible how I want to hear from the authorities of the Russian Federation something like: "In connection with the aggravation of bilateral relations between the Russian Federation and the United States and the imposition of sanctions by the United States and the EU, we refuse to supply rocket engines, to deliver US astronauts to the ISS, by breaking contracts for the production of hydrocarbons from US companies on the territory of Russia (including the Arctic shelf) and freezing supplies of titanium and products from it. You can consider this as a response from Russia. " This Obama, Exxon Mobil, Boeing, Lockheed Martin and others will simply be torn apart. Democracy is called, in American.

[Truth-lover]

I hope ours will try to benefit from this ...

[Manul]

Quote: True-Amorous

I hope ours will try to benefit from this ...

Exactly! Do you want engines? So the price is now 10 times higher, and lift the sanctions that bother us. Quietly, so that no one notices.

[Stiletto]

And what, are you ready to supply? In vain. one should be in a pose. Sanctions are so sanctions, empty spaces plow the vast expanses of the Universe.

[mamont5]

Quote: Stiletto

Sanctions are so sanctions, empty spaces plow the vast expanses of the Universe.

Well, or as Rogozin suggested - on a trampoline.

[Morgan]

The specific impulse of the trampoline is too small. Here is a podzhopnik known as "primary acceleration" ...

[Prapor-527]

Fuck you and not the engines! Jump on a trampoline ...

[mig31]

To put it mildly, as our leading diplomat Sergei Lavrov would say, the impudence of "our partners" does not stand up to any criticism ...

[Dimy4]

Yes, guys are as simple as thirty-one cowards.

[Dimy4]

Ha! Something like this - Guys, we will play a little bit for you, but let it concern only us. And then we desperately need your technology.

[Morgan]

Who, besides Russia, is generally able to produce rocket ENGINES ??? (not about engines)
Kibalchich, Tsiolkovsky, Korolev, Glushko, Gagarin, Leonov ... Someone doubts that space is Russian, and only we have ENGINES for flights there.
The price of sanctions ... mdya ....

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Morgan

Someone doubts that space is Russian, and only we have ENGINES for flights there.

Well, the Yankees have experience with manned flights, if you mean manned. Within 10 years, they will finish it. I am silent about cargo, many have them

[Morgan]

I meant INDUSTRY AND TRADITION, and not individual products (even programs, the hell with them).

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Morgan

INDUSTRY AND TRADITION

You want to say that they have no industry in the industry? A rather bold statement

[Jrvin]

Here it is a deceitful, bastard policy of the United States, if he undertook to pont, then be kind enough to pont to the end, to include the rear not properly.

[SS68SS]

What decency are we talking about? They will sell their mother if it will be profitable. TFA on them, as a vice of all mankind.

[Morgan]

Let the rear turn on, just closer to the nozzle of the docking unit with the tooo-thick pin

[mamont5]

That’s all American sanctions. They carefully monitor so that they themselves do not suffer losses. What about Europe? Yes to hell with her.

[Roman1970]

And what, did you doubt it? Love yourself, sneeze at all ... As old as the world ... Just wondering if they will put it or not? I mean, the engines ...

[delfinN]

Do not roll for a mattress perspective on trampolines to jump ...
RD-180 for astronauts

[Morgan]

Rogozin was mistaken - not a trampoline, but the astronauts need a kick ...

[Prutkov]

A theater of the absurd. Here we are at war, and here we have love. Sadomasochism.

[silverwolf88]

Now we need to introduce sanctions for the supply of engines in the United States ... for example, to ban the launch of military and dual-use satellites into orbit with the help of our products.

[Starover_Z]

And this question is already being raised like "TOPOL-M" to the States! Just the other day we wrote.

[semuel]

My Khimki. Create shavings for you in the pipeline !!! But seriously, there are buyers on the RD besides USA. Well, to break the contract, that's okay, there are more customers than offers.

[GRAY]

Beyond sanctions? What about this:

WASHINGTON, May 1, 21:16 p.m. / Corr. ITAR-TASS Boris Makarov. The US federal lawsuit court ruled that the United launch Alliance abandoned plans for further purchases of Russian rocket engines.

This was reported by The Washington Post. The current contract of the company with the Russian-American enterprise "RD-Amros" implies the supply of RD-180 engines by 2018 in the amount of four to six units per year.

A lawsuit against the US Air Force last Monday was filed by the private American company SpaceX with the intention of liquidating the monopoly on launches of military intelligence satellites.

We are talking about an exclusive contract of the US Air Force with the United Launch Alliance for the launch of military satellites. In its lawsuit, SpaceX criticized the joint venture between Boeing and Lockheed Martin, which uses Russian RD-180 engines on a number of its launch vehicles, which, in its opinion, "is a violation of US government sanctions against Russia."

According to the court ruling, the company is prohibited from purchasing engines from a Russian manufacturer

[kartalovkolya]

Yes, well done, they announce sanctions and immediately ask to increase the supply of rocket engines! But they use these engines to launch satellites, spies and other abomination, and why will we continue to act according to the principle: "... what you please ..."! Here is Rogozin with his trampoline, it looks like our leaders are on strings like puppets ... There is a real chance to hit amers in full!

[-ш-]

that vindohat them engines at 3 expensive .... well, or a little cheaper if they themselves decided to develop and deliver them ... you need to tear them

[Jungar]

Quote: andrei332809

buy trampolines

Well, or you can, like Jules Verne, try to shoot a gun. Moreover, in Jules Verne, in my opinion, it was the Americans who flew from the cannon, 90 hours, and on the moon.

[navara399]

No, I died so died ...

[Wiruz]

Washington personally asked the Russian NPO Energomash to increase supplies of RD-180 engines in the USA

And the face will not crack?

[Silkway0026]

on a barrel of gunpowder would ... let them fly!

[kot28.ru]

Stock up on a rainy day ??? In China, let the trampolines order those you want to sew !! And on the engines there is a buyer without them!

[jovanni]

Here are those on! They imposed sanctions ... full trousers!

[Giant thought]

Mattress workers do everything based on their own benefit, it will be beneficial for them to call white black, they will lay down their bones, but they will convince the world of this, this is their whole unprincipled essence.

[skyyl]

Yes, let’s fly, the current should be thrown at a price of 2 times

[Neighbor]

Do not spit in the well, we have such a saying.

[fisherman]

When Americans need rocket engines, Rogozin is a private person :)
And when you need to throw show-offs for visitors about the sanction, then Rogozin is Deputy Prime Minister :)

America is the birthplace of clowns :)))

[storm wind]

It's simple - we’ll sell it, but .. for the price five times more! Do not want to, either - cancel the sanctions, or go in the ass! Respect only the strong! That's how it should be! And do not mumble! Calmly tough and clear! They have their own interests - and we have our own! And everything will be wonderful ..

[delfinN]

Off topic, of course. Here I dig and fucking go. Here and about Serdyukov. Draw your own conclusions. I just put the movie.

[sniper]

Quote: delfinN

and ofiguev.

A funny video .... It makes you think ... At least it gives plausible answers to many questions ... Let's wait, see ... And for the searches, thank you !!! So what minuses threw ??? delfinN he didn't take it off himself, he found it, "went nuts" and showed it to us ...

[Demon0n]

Quote: delfinN

Off topic, of course. Here I dig and fucking go. Here and about Serdyukov. Draw your own conclusions. I just put the movie.

Conclusions to draw on the basis of what? This video is a product of paranoid schizophrenia in a particularly acute form.
Cosmic rays do not zombify anyone, plowing the expanses of the Bolshoi Theater. All phenomena have a very simple explanation, causes and effects.
It is enough to turn on the head and apply elementary methods of logic to identify serious disorders of the brain of the authors of this nonsense ...
Another sectarianism and the theory of a world conspiracy (easier - paranoia).

[chelovektapok]

Statement from a series of gay worldviews "once is not pi ... dagog." So there are sanctions, but we need this "yellow on a plate". That means out of sanctions!

[marder4]

Quote: mig31

To put it mildly, as our leading diplomat Sergei Lavrov would say, the impudence of "our partners" does not stand up to any criticism ...

totally agree

[shinobi]

Well, this was expected. Here is another anecdote, experts from NASA, when the question of closing the shuttle program arose, did not ambiguously expressed: It will take from 7 to 10 years to create a new manned spacecraft according to a one-time scheme. Without Russian engines, it cannot be about heavy rockets. speech in general, since at the moment we can not reproduce even what was in the program "Saturn 5." Lost production technological chains and cycles. They must be created again and from scratch.

[x.andvlad]

Indeed, Americans can be compared with adult kids in arrogance and naivety. It looks something like this:
We, the most important ones on Earth, are solemnly imposing sanctions against you, but make sure that our American interests do not suffer anywhere (not on the ISS, not in Afghanistan, etc.)! Otherwise, it will not be fair, because we must punish you. And everyone on Earth should see how bad it made you. And we don't play otherwise. Kindergarten "made in USA"!

I believe that the supply of rocket engines should be stopped immediately. And when the mattress realizes that it’s getting excited, then raise the price of these engines every three to four. Then let them calculate whose mistake was more expensive. (Did Harry and Obama stutter about expensive mistakes?)

[Arkan]

Moscow, May 13. In Russia, it will be prohibited to use domestic rocket engines exported to the United States to launch military satellites. This was stated by Interfax Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin. "We will assume that without guarantees that our engines are used only to launch non-military spacecraft, we cannot supply them to the United States," Rogozin said.

You guarantee us, we give you engines. The price of engines needs to be raised.

[Nikoha.2010]

There was a joke at the VO forum about how the Russians suggested to the Amerovian astronauts on the way from outer space that they would return due to sanctions. Funny, but in the subject! Why chop the branch on which you sit! All these sanctions are just dust, if you touch on a serious business, then they will tear the government (S.Sh.A) and even more so in the papalistic world, where everything is decided by the loot! IMHO!

[sv68]

let the Chinese be hired for a bowl of rice to throw satellites into orbit in a crowd of one hundred thousand people. Bables will save a lot of money and China will save unemployment

[yur]

Quote: sv68

let the Chinese be hired for a plate of rice to throw satellites into a crowd of one hundred thousand people

Not the 19th century. Current Chinese people can only tap on the head for a plate of rice for free.

[maxxdesign]

Yes, at least 10 per year let them take! BUT! ONLY FOR RUBLES !!! or let them continue

[HAM]

This is called "and eat a fish, and not offend Obama", only the cunning ones are more cunning than the cunning ones.

[siberalt]

Commercials, a tub of ice water on the head of pi * ndos! The Chinese also warned that sanctions against Russia are an unstoppable chain in changing the global world order. And "from the side" is always more visible.

[Strashila]

and not only rocket engines ... but also titanium components for Boeings that are in no hurry to write in sanctions.

[DanSabaka]

And let them buy ... FOR RUBLES ...

[Ajent cho]

Americans! You either remove the cross or put on your underpants. And then: here - we play, here - we do not play, here - we wrap fish ...

[Lone gunman]

I propose to supply engines to the United States without a passport ...- without a guarantee, supposedly a lot of orders - we do not have time, but here you are ...)))

[staryivoin]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: andrei332809

buy trampolines

There is another option already tested.

Dear Alexander, it was a broadcast training of new NASA astronauts! Fiction what success in the near space exploration !!!

[Morgan]

This astronaut survived ??????

[Manul]

Quote: Morgan

This astronaut survived ??????

I don’t know how they took it off, but according to my feelings, it’s a cunning fake. Two men with a total weight of 140 kilograms, pull an elastic band with a "shell" under 80 kg. In order for people to fly at least to a nearby pool, they would have to plow the whole garden with their heels. And a heroic strength is needed. By their complexion, they have never taken anything heavier than a glass of beer. This does not happen. And it can't be!
I have an idea that a foam mannequin was sent on the flight.

[ars_pro]

then there was an offer to sell them engines for lifting sanctions, no, let them leave the sanctions, and after half a year, let them slap them as no one will sell them engines or sell them but 5 times more expensive)

[ARS56]

Nobody can do such engines anymore. Neither 5 nor 25 times more expensive. We must use the right moment to break the contract, because At present, the prime cost of the engine has grown above the contract price and is extremely unprofitable. It is necessary to terminate the contract in response to sanctions. In the future, if relations with the United States improve, sell at a price that is favorable to us. (5 times more expensive, for example.) They don’t want to-let them go through the market.

[gor530]

Quote: Starover_Z

And it's time to supply high-tech products with their own tabs, so that without our service "not a foot"!

good thought, JOIN

[the villain]

Let the bastards buy for rubles
Russian rocket engines
Without guarantees that it will fly as it should
Since they are such eccentrics.

[Ajent cho]

And it's time to supply high-tech products with their own tabs, so that without our service "not a foot"!

Not necessary. No need to become like any creatures - we risk becoming the same.

[Nitarius]

SELL AND ONLY IN RUBLES in the most extreme case !!

[theadenter]

And when the United States is now putting pressure on Europe to join the oil and gas sanctions, they do not take into account the interests of the EU. And here is a little American whim and it must certainly be fulfilled.
The USA is a spoiled child.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: theadenter

... The USA is a spoiled child.

Not just spoiled - a moron!

[starhina01]

want more engines? let them take the authorized ones It’s as if there’s an engine, but there’s no point

[lexx2038]

We need to increase the price, like excuse me, sanctions, it’s hard for our economy...

[ARS56]

Quote: ASed

Quote: andrei332809

no, no ... sanctions should be sanctions. buy trampolines

Such sanctions will also be beneficial to someone in the United States. I don’t remember the name of the company, but they wanted to receive state subsidies for production. Our engines do not allow the United States to begin its own development.

The development of engines of this class takes about 10 years. So there is no reason to worry about the Americans. Let them saw off their candy wrappers. They are masters at this.

[A1L9E4K9S]

Why bother with all these sanctions when they themselves rushed to ask Russia not to apply sanctions to rocket engines, to screw them over at triple the price, if they need it, they won’t go anywhere, maybe they’ll wise up, they’ll start talking to Russia respectfully, nothing personal , just business, with money it will be clearer to them.

[soldat guards]

only for rubles, otherwise there are “so many” candy wrappers, and they bring them to Bendershtat in suitcases

[wanderer_032]

Somehow I think it’s not for nothing that all this is happening, they must have planned some nasty thing against us, nothing less.
Increase their supply of rocket engines, hmm...
Meanwhile, the state of the ballistic missile fleet in the United States is not so great...
As if these deliveries would end up backfired on us later.
Commercial satellites, really...
The day before yesterday there was a message in the media that Russia will close the operation of GPS stations on its territory, 11 in number, in early June...
It may well be connected with this event. They probably want to make everyone happy by launching so many satellites that they will make a ring around the Earth like Saturn’s...

[vignat21]

No, she died like that. That’s why I don’t like it when he dies and blinks his eyes,

[da Vinci]

Variant answer: The United States invests money in technology in Russia, Russia gives them the result.

[propolsky]

Fuck the bloodsuckers, not the developments of the defense industry! Let them now eat the fruits of their foreign policy.

[3vs]

I felt proud of the country!

[Buran]

People, explain to me, orphan and wretched, what they used to fly to the moon? Now, satellites cannot land without us. Here, even after the 90s, almost everything flies and works. I’m not an expert, but to fly to the moon, you need a powerful, reliable engine, with a huge payload capacity, much higher than our RD, developed in the 60s.

[pvv113]

Quote: SS68SS

On X ... you will not fly far

Well, if only on horseback

[pvv113]

More details about rocket engines [media=http://warfiles.ru/show-56516-rossiya-gotova-prizemlit-ameriku.html]

[SHI69]

They don't need this!

[USSR]

Selling an engine with an element of self-destruction upon startup is a normal option.

[tehnoluks]

France should refuse to sell Mistral helicopter carriers to Russia, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf told reporters on Thursday.

Well, did you doubt it? The United States cares only about itself, and “partners” are being screwed over to the fullest extent. And you are engines, engines...

[uge.garik]

and Russia itself can impose sanctions on itself - suspend cooperation with the sanctionists until the end of the sanction fornication - as a gesture of goodwill...

[vpp66]

Fuck them, not the engines. Or sell engines in exchange for the construction in Russia of at least a couple of factories for the production of modern processors. To avoid buying from the USA.

[xtur]

here Kaptsov recently talked about how much Russia is behind the United States in space. And he argued that Russian engines are not particularly needed for the United States, that they have the entire line of missiles and the problem is only in one position, which they can do without.

So it’s time for him to comment on Washington’s request to Energomash.

[Alex Nick]

No matter what they write here, they will sell the engines and ask if they need it anymore? Business...

[Weniamin]

Let them use slingshots.

[Prjanik]

Proton + Baikonur, I am tormented by vague doubts... Or is someone offended by Rogozin for the trampoline?

[nvn_co]

From here... a country of double standards! They say correctly: “Sell only for rubles...”, or even better, let them pay in gold!