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Hungarian Prime Minister aims to privatize Transcarpathia

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A month ago, parliamentary elections were held in Hungary, in which the ruling Fides party won. Thus, Viktor Orban retained the post of prime minister. Orban and his party members, who became famous for political scandals at the EU level, oppose not only European “tolerance”, but also the “Great Hungary”.


Recall that the popularity of Orban and the Fides Party is based on the country's social policy. Measures to reduce utility tariffs gave the prime minister enormous chances of winning the election. Mr. Orban managed to find funds for his domestic policy: transnational corporations and banks doing business in the country had to pay extra. tax (for which the EU was separately offended by the Hungarian prime minister).

Orban's foreign policy can be called "non-aggressive expansion." The prime minister, it seems, seriously intended to cut off the stratum from the Ukrainian Transcarpathian region. He has long been promoting to the masses the idea of ​​granting citizenship to Hungarians living in neighboring countries, including the Transcarpathian region of Ukraine. And Orban - this is not some empty talk. He said - done.

To date, more than six hundred thousand Hungarians abroad (that is, not only Ukrainian) have received citizenship - and any of them has the right to vote in the Hungarian parliamentary elections, including the Fides Party. Very wise policy.

At the April session of the PACE, the Hungarian delegate (not related to the party of Orban, but, nevertheless, the official delegate) went even further. He told the audience that Ukraine is an “artificial state”. Transcarpathia for many years belonged to Hungary. As for the Transcarpathian Rusyns, “no one recognizes them in Ukraine.” The Hungarian representative agreed to the fact that he turned off the microphone.

At the same time, Hungary is not tired of condemning the Russian "annexation" of the Crimea. And the Hungarian government would like to squeeze out Gazprom from the EU market and replace Russian gas with US shale gas.

Recently, Viktor Orban confirmed his claims regarding Transcarpathia. Having taken the reins of the prime minister for a third term, he declared the need for autonomy and dual citizenship for Hungarians living in neighboring countries, including Ukraine. Reported by IA "REGNUM" with reference to "Ukrinform".

Orban's message, as always, was simple and intelligible.

Speaking in parliament after taking the oath of the head of government, the prime minister said: “We view the Hungarian issue as a European issue. Hungarians living in the Carpathian region have the right to dual citizenship, to the rights of the national community and to autonomy. ”

Particular attention Orban paid Transcarpathian region.

“The position of 200 of thousands of ethnic Hungarians living in Ukraine makes this issue particularly acute. The Hungarian community there should receive dual citizenship, all the rights of a national community, and also it should receive the possibility of self-government. These are our clear expectations from the new Ukraine, ”Orban explained.

The Prime Minister also said that ethnic Hungarians support his policy of uniting the nation “across borders”, "Moscow Komsomol".

It should be noted that Mr. Orban chose the most convenient time for his statement. Ukraine is in deep crisis. In fact, there is a civil war. There are few people who trust temporary workers in Kiev within the country. Crimea went to Russia. Lugansk and Donetsk regions held referendums and are trying to become independent states. It’s time for Hungary to help its national kin in Transcarpathia. And there it is not far to redrawing the borders: it will only be necessary to hold an appropriate referendum in the new autonomy.

Mr. Orban definitely decided to write his name on the table of "Great Hungary". AND история gives him cards in hand. Maps ...

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  1. Yellow white
    Yellow white 16 May 2014 08: 01
    +7
    There was an article on this subject, so be it and I repeat:
    RUSSIA was asked if they want a piece ...
    1. Canep
      Canep 16 May 2014 08: 20
      +44
      It seems that the Hungarians still read Zhirik’s letter about how to divide Ukraine.
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 16 May 2014 08: 38
        +21
        Quote: Canep
        It seems that the Hungarians still read Zhirik’s letter about how to divide Ukraine.

        Maybe they read it? Then Zhirik should be awarded with some sort of Hungarian order (after the factual section?).
        But seriously, a weak state with territorial disputes sooner or later gives up its territory to a stronger neighbor. And all the signs of decline and collapse as they say on the face! I am only interested in one thing, if with the Hungarian autonomy everything turns into serious, will the West with America allow this case to be turned in favor of "Great Hungary" ??? With us, everything is clear and understandable, but Hungary is still a member (and what kind) of NATO!
        1. Canep
          Canep 16 May 2014 09: 15
          +9
          Quote: Arberes
          Hungary is still a member (and even what) of NATO!

          Hungary is already fed up with both NATO and Europe eating up, I won’t be surprised if they get out of these offices, and they will take Transcarpathia to the noise.
          1. Arberes
            Arberes 16 May 2014 10: 05
            +12
            Quote: Canep
            if they come out of these offices, and they take Transcarpathia to a hush.

            I’m afraid that without this office they (Hungarians) will just not allow anything? Only in this western NATO gang can you feel relatively calm and create easy chaos in your petty interests! Hungary is a country of six and an independent policy will simply not allow her to conduct! The main thing is that it fits into the dogmas and canons of Uncle Sam!
            I welcome you, dear Canep hi
          2. wolf7
            wolf7 16 May 2014 10: 44
            +3
            Or maybe ours provoked this as an example of the Crimea? If this happens, then the Hungarians respect, but let them not twitch about the gas, the Americans will not forgive them
            1. Sergey Krymsky
              Sergey Krymsky 18 May 2014 13: 28
              0
              [quote = wolf7] "Maybe ours provoked this with the example of Crimea?"
              In general, the deriban began as early as http://kp.ua/politics/71607-kyev-proyhral-rumynyy-bytvu-za-ostrov-zmeynyi
          3. soyuz-nik
            soyuz-nik 16 May 2014 13: 28
            +1
            Good health, I wish!
            Choi believes it with difficulty that the Hungarians will leave NATA and leave the EU ... Hungary is not Switzerland ... Nowadays it is difficult without collectivism, and the choice is not thick ... However, the EU is not the precedent with the fugitives suit .... And then they have a half-life there will come ...
          4. SSR
            SSR 18 May 2014 16: 11
            +1
            Quote: Canep
            Quote: Arberes
            Hungary is still a member (and even what) of NATO!

            Hungary is already fed up with both NATO and Europe eating up, I won’t be surprised if they get out of these offices, and they will take Transcarpathia to the noise.

            Hungry / Ughorshchina is not fed up .... But as my Grandmother says, Hungarians and Romanians more atrocities against civilians and at one time Russia saved the Magyars by passing through their lands .... That Hungarians that Romanians are akin to me scavengers .
            PS
            I apologize for being too emotional.
      2. ispaniard
        ispaniard 16 May 2014 09: 14
        +23
        Talked back in March with one of the "Banderlog Females" from Vinnitsa. On her hackneyed - "Who is for the annexation of Crimea by Russia, please leave my page", I wrote -Krymians made their choice and not Russia, Russia gave Crimea itself to decide on its fate. The Crimeans also held a referendum in order to show the entire world community, and specifically to you the Maidanut Nazis that their decision is universal and legitimate ... But when Poland, Romania and Hungary start eating you from Europe, then no one in the annexed regions will hold referendums will, just -TAKE AND EVERYTHING ... In response, I heard -What are you talking about?!? Europe will never do this to Us !!! 111 PS Now probably Zapedenskaya Dyvchina remembers our conversation with her ... laughing laughing laughing
        1. gsg955
          gsg955 16 May 2014 09: 30
          +7
          Magyars dill beggars and will not ask, bite off in six seconds.
          1. Aksusha
            Aksusha 16 May 2014 10: 36
            +23
            Romania when she bit off (like sued) a shelf near Tuzla, and what did anyone mind? And our yushch was so happy, so happy, sho on euroopeisk !!! Well nerds, what to take from them, except for analyzes? On our territory, it turns out that the sovereigns are not born. Guess three times why? Well, there never was such a power! That's all !!!
          2. soyuz-nik
            soyuz-nik 16 May 2014 13: 33
            +1
            I wish you good health! Tady to the Americans, the next bogeyman - to separate the vassals ... I think that now the Americans have a ukhunt in priority .... Magyaram can break off ...
        2. Arberes
          Arberes 16 May 2014 09: 58
          +6
          Quote: ispaniard
          Europe will never do this to Us !!!

          Well, what can I answer you, dear ispaniard hi
          So the words "Ukraine tse Europe" come to mind! If they accept it, they will format it in full, as they themselves need, and not the lost Ukraine!
          1. ZU-23
            ZU-23 16 May 2014 12: 23
            +5
            Quote: Arberes
            So the words "Ukraine tse Europe" come to mind! If they accept it, they will format it in full, as they themselves need, and not the lost Ukraine!

            laughing Every second or even every, in 5-10 years will be a cons
            1. zollstab
              zollstab 16 May 2014 18: 22
              0
              And how would you like it to be even faster.
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        3. Milana
          Milana 16 May 2014 14: 32
          +6
          Wow! I liked your answer. one of the "Banderlog Females" from Vinnitsa.
          I would like to see the expression on her face at this moment.
          And maybe it’s not necessary: ​​the sight is still !!!
        4. Suhow
          Suhow 16 May 2014 23: 43
          +1
          the Hungarians will hold a referendum and kapets, and if they are supported by Europe, then we - jo .., and our type of elite will dance with screeching integration. Our leaders will play a point against the Hungarians. In another situation, I’m ready to go to the military commissariat. Hungarians, Poles, and so on - the Russians were not in the Union and their views are pro-Western. I think they relate themselves closer to the Germans.
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      4. OTTO
        OTTO 16 May 2014 09: 55
        +5
        Quote: Canep
        It seems that the Hungarians still read Zhirik’s letter about how to divide Ukraine.

        Maybe they have read it, or maybe all the "scavengers" have sensed where they can peck, soon the Poles will catch up. And for some reason I am sure that their claims will not cause indignation among common people.
      5. wolf7
        wolf7 16 May 2014 10: 41
        +2
        There is reason for Senya to think about what he will manage soon (if he survives) Orban is smarter than corporal recourse
      6. Alez
        Alez 16 May 2014 12: 10
        +4
        The Hungarians acted as usual, kicked the speed bump. Whether still will be, in a couple of months.
        1. Children BuryKonya
          Children BuryKonya 17 May 2014 07: 52
          +1
          Now the Poles with the Romanians will podsutsya.
      7. Ujin61
        Ujin61 16 May 2014 12: 17
        +6
        In times of turmoil, there are always enough hunters to fish in troubled waters. Hungarians are no exception.
        1. CHILD
          CHILD 16 May 2014 12: 40
          +8
          something the main scavengers of Europe, Poland are suspiciously silent .... not otherwise they have already prepared a brick in my bosom ....
          1. 52
            52 17 May 2014 18: 57
            0
            The main hyenas are not silent, the pans have the most well-off army in this direction, though the fighting soul is as usual. But business is extreme at all, damn it, so why not chop off a piece over time, like with Czechs and Slovaks, the main thing is for someone to start first. Well, you remember ...
    2. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 16 May 2014 08: 29
      +6
      Quote: Black and White
      There was an article on this subject, so be it and I repeat:
      RUSSIA was asked if they want a piece ...

      They will not bite off a bite, but such statements play against the Kiev junta, so the Hungarians are set off.
      Transcarpathian Russia is another point of protest against the Nazis, so support for federalization by the EU countries is a plus for local residents and all national minorities of Ukraine.
    3. xenod55
      xenod55 16 May 2014 08: 38
      +6
      What will be the reaction of the OSCE, PACE, NATO and the State Department - condemnation or "comrades Hungarians are going the right way."
      1. Mihaylo Tishayshiy
        Mihaylo Tishayshiy 16 May 2014 09: 57
        +3
        Quote: Arberes
        I am only interested in one thing, if with the Hungarian autonomy everything turns into serious, will the West with America allow this case to be turned in favor of "Great Hungary" ??? With us, everything is clear and understandable, but Hungary is still a member (and what kind) of NATO!

        Quote: xenod55
        What will be the reaction of the OSCE, PACE, NATO and the State Department - condemnation or "comrades Hungarians are going the right way."

        Naive questions from you guys. Of course, with "international law", in the opinion of "all progressive mankind", everything will be legal and fair. Don't even hesitate!
    4. comprochikos
      comprochikos 16 May 2014 09: 26
      +13
      So, the cut of Ukraine begins slowly. Banderlogs got played in the revolution, but smart people warned. This proves the truth that there can be no territorial integrity of a state without the cohesion of all the peoples living in it.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 16 May 2014 10: 26
        0
        Orban rummages over more junta sectarians, he knows that he needs to be friends with Russia, the Hungarians would be happy as a boa constrictor for a gas discount, in comparison with the debuloids.
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    5. Dimon-chik-79
      Dimon-chik-79 16 May 2014 11: 55
      0
      And they asked Russia - do we want NATO near Belgorod?
    6. cosmos111
      cosmos111 16 May 2014 17: 31
      0
      news lightning !!!!
      The junta's henchmen have filled up the site of the "Russian Spring". It ...
      old.shturmnovosti.info /.../ prispeshniki-hunty-zavalili-sayt-russkoy-vesny ...


      who has infa, what about the site ????
      1. Messer
        Messer 17 May 2014 04: 01
        0
        For DDoSor))) Nitsche will soon finish the TSN
    7. ele1285
      ele1285 16 May 2014 20: 45
      0
      [quote = Black and White] There was an article on this topic, / quote]
      Suck and not any nails, here is the slogan of Mayakovsky and the Sun
    8. Cherdak
      Cherdak 18 May 2014 13: 07
      0
      Quote: Black and White
      There was an article on this subject

      Stop breeding Euroutopia -
      Drag the ownerless Dill!
  2. serega.fedotov
    serega.fedotov 16 May 2014 08: 06
    +5
    Let the Lions be taken away! And Transcarpathia-shish with oil!
    1. Canep
      Canep 16 May 2014 08: 23
      +17
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      Let the Lions be taken away!

      Lviv, let the Poles take away, and let the Poles love each other and live happily with Bandera.
      1. Predator
        Predator 16 May 2014 08: 52
        +6
        Maybe Warsaw will again be pacified as in 1944!
        1. Canep
          Canep 16 May 2014 09: 04
          +5
          Quote: Predator
          Maybe Warsaw will again be pacified as in 1944!

          It will be their business. And very funny things.
      2. Samaritan
        Samaritan 16 May 2014 09: 15
        0
        Well, neo-Nazis (the right sector) dream of uniting all Slavic peoples against Jews, communists and blacks ...
        The creation of a new state including all the eastern countries of Europe to the Ural Mountains ... with its capital in Kiev! http://www.naso.org.ua/page/3/
        Like this:
        1. OTTO
          OTTO 16 May 2014 09: 48
          +5
          Quote: Samaritan
          Well, neo-Nazis (the right sector) dream of uniting all Slavic ... ... Creating a new state that includes all the eastern countries of Europe to the Ural Mountains ... with its capital in Kiev!

          Perhaps they can be allowed ... to dream further, in between work in a protected area north of the Ural Mountains.
        2. Turkir
          Turkir 16 May 2014 19: 33
          +1
          Are these the dreams of a Jew Yarosh?
      3. Akvadra
        Akvadra 16 May 2014 09: 31
        +1
        Arrogant slaves will grow stupid and arrogant slaves
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 16 May 2014 08: 30
      +16
      Quote: serega.fedotov
      Let the Lions be taken away! And Transcarpathia-shish with oil!

      They do not need Lviv thugs in FIGs, but with the rest it’s not so simple. There are whole villages of ethnic Hungarians along the border! And in these villages they wanted to choke on the Ukrainian language, children learn from Hungarian textbooks - thanks to my native Hungary, and not only that. For several years now, Hungary has really helped its Ukrainian Hungarians. So - give a cry, and everyone will vote for autonomy, and for joining Hungary.
      It should be noted, however, that the first to start were the Poles, who “invented” the “Pole's card” (since dual citizenship is impossible). And with this card, great benefits were attached, including for studying in Poland ...
      But what about the Hungarians? And they are there too. And the current "power" will be silent! Because so far it is from Hungary that Russian gas is pumped in reverse to Ukraine. It is unlikely that Ukraine has the money to pay for this gas either. That means they will give it away with people. And it doesn't matter to them whether there are people of a different nationality or not.
      1. comprochikos
        comprochikos 16 May 2014 11: 24
        +6
        In Lviv, others are already in the queue. laughing
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  3. mig31
    mig31 16 May 2014 08: 07
    +3
    Robbery in the middle of a white European day, let's see how a geyropa will mint ...
  4. MOISEY
    MOISEY 16 May 2014 08: 09
    +8
    Well, the Europeans condemned Zhirinovsky for the direct offer of cutting Ukraine, and everyone is looking closely at the back mind. Tikhushki sucks.
    1. from punk
      from punk 16 May 2014 08: 13
      +5
      Quote: MOISEY
      Well, the Europeans condemned Zhirinovsky for the direct offer of cutting Ukraine, and everyone is looking closely at the back mind. Tikhushki sucks.

      Well, in my opinion it was the Hungarians in PACE who were one of the few who supported Russia's actions in the Crimea
  5. StrateG
    StrateG 16 May 2014 08: 13
    -2
    For such arrogance in the teeth you can get wassat
    1. Suhow
      Suhow 16 May 2014 23: 55
      0
      if our people will not divide the people into separatist and patriots then the Hungarians have few chances. I have nothing against the Ukrainian Hungarians, of course it’s a shame for the sold-out of Crimea, but here our Svidomies are also to blame ..
  6. Nikita_Pilot
    Nikita_Pilot 16 May 2014 08: 14
    +1
    Well, everything was as expected, but figs that they rake there.
    1. gsg955
      gsg955 16 May 2014 09: 32
      +1
      Open, one hundred pounds.
  7. zzzxzzz
    zzzxzzz 16 May 2014 08: 14
    +5
    "The Hungarian Prime Minister aims at the privatization of Transcarpathia" - This is only the beginning. Romania will also want to chop off a piece of Transcarpathia (ethnic Romanians live in the Solotvino area) And after Transcarpathia it will want Bukovina and southern Bessarabia ...
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 16 May 2014 08: 36
      +5
      This is to be expected. Seeing the complete tear in Ukraine, the western neighbors will begin to tear Ukraine to pieces, especially since there is no one to resist them. There is no government, no army, and there have always been enough jackals at all times.
      1. Milana
        Milana 16 May 2014 14: 51
        +4
        But Russia will be to blame!
        As always! There are no other perpetrators.
  8. KOH
    KOH 16 May 2014 08: 16
    +1
    So in the pass, the Hungarian spoke for Russia, he even had a protest on his T-shirt, something wasn’t sticking here ... maybe I didn’t understand ...
  9. zzzxzzz
    zzzxzzz 16 May 2014 08: 16
    +4
    Quote: punk
    Quote: MOISEY
    Well, the Europeans condemned Zhirinovsky for the direct offer of cutting Ukraine, and everyone is looking closely at the back mind. Tikhushki sucks.

    Well, in my opinion it was the Hungarians in PACE who were one of the few who supported Russia's actions in the Crimea

    Because they supported that they aimed in Transcarpathia
  10. parus2nik
    parus2nik 16 May 2014 08: 20
    +6
    If Hungary cuts off a piece of Ukraine, Europe and the United States will not be offended .. and recognize it as legitimate .. And the junta in Kiev, recognize the fairness of these actions ..
  11. Gray 43
    Gray 43 16 May 2014 08: 21
    +6
    Ukraine will be redrawn - Romanians, Hungarians, Poles, everyone wants to grab a piece of territory, moreover, all in the light of the "threat of the Russian Empire." The EU and the staff will do what they want, but do not recognize the return of Crimea to Russia - double standards, however, sir.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. KOH
      KOH 16 May 2014 08: 41
      +5
      Eeeh !!! comment deleted. I will write modestly.
      Who needs their recognition ... hi
  12. Imperial
    Imperial 16 May 2014 08: 25
    +9
    The Hungarian Jobbik party supported referenda in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions of Ukraine. The leader of the second largest Hungarian Jobbik party, Gabor Vona, made a statement, which is fully reproduced below:


    In its program, the Jobbik party initially supported the Russo-Hungarian autonomy, thus, we and the Hungarian national minority in Transcarpathia are pleased if the position of the Prime Minister of Hungary on this issue coincides with the position of Jobbik.

    It is necessary to clearly realize how hysterical the atmosphere in Europe is in connection with the crisis in Ukraine.

    My party and I respect the Donetsk and Lugansk referendum and its results! Despite the situation in which the referendum was held, a huge number of residents took part in it, which clearly expressed their will. It seems to me that for Western Europe and the USA the moment has come when the words they repeatedly use, such as: democracy, human rights, self-determination, must finally be filled with content.

    I ask Europe and the United States, if they really take the meaning of these words seriously, let them respect the results of the referendum. At the same time, let the demonization of Russia cease! If the West really wants peace, peace can only come if the question of Eastern Ukraine is calmly resolved. Today’s Kiev leadership cannot do this; past referenda confirm this. Those who want peace today should respect the results of referenda!

    May 14, 2014 http://www.iarex.ru/news/47867.html
    1. KOH
      KOH 16 May 2014 08: 30
      +3
      I’m saying something is not right. In the pass, the Hungarian quilted these ghouls to the fullest, already turned off the microphone ...
  13. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 16 May 2014 08: 26
    +3
    Let the referendum be held. Or at least a survey. as it should be. with observers including from Russia. With three questions. For Russia, Hungary or Ukraine. I think that Hungary cannot come first, and so will Ukraine.
    Orban, apparently, the laurels of Austria-Hungary do not give rest
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 16 May 2014 08: 35
      +6
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      With three questions. For Russia, Hungary or Ukraine. I think that Hungary cannot come first

      Maybe come out. The main thing is to separate them from this "crazy Ukraine". So people will vote. And if the Rusyns are guaranteed autonomy, they will vote too.
      1. andj61
        andj61 16 May 2014 08: 54
        +6
        Let Transcarpathian Russia with autonomy for the Hungarians be better.
  14. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 16 May 2014 08: 27
    +4
    Again redistribution of the world?
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 16 May 2014 08: 57
      +2
      Quote: valentina-makanalina
      Again redistribution of the world?

      ??? So he never stopped .. Especially the States are trying. Yes, and take the same China, India and Nepalese have disputes, disassemblies .. For modern conditions, the desire to redistribute the world is normal.

      As for Hungary, then, in my opinion, the smaller and underdeveloped the state - the more it is in territorial disputes "gov.nis.tee". It is enough to remember the Baltics ..
  15. Neo1982
    Neo1982 16 May 2014 08: 41
    +3
    according to Pyakin, the danger of intervention in Odessa Romania is overcome, - (we are waiting for that with Hungary)
  16. Bayonet
    Bayonet 16 May 2014 08: 43
    +12
    A picture from the life of the African savannah - predators attacked the carcass of a dying animal.
    1. gsg955
      gsg955 16 May 2014 09: 35
      +4
      Only Ukrainians do not look like a zebra, rather like a rat.
  17. mamont5
    mamont5 16 May 2014 08: 46
    0
    "Recently, Viktor Orban confirmed his claims regarding Transcarpathia."

    This is also a pre-election feint. It contains nothing serious.
  18. their
    their 16 May 2014 08: 53
    +2
    rummaging in the past
  19. sledge
    sledge 16 May 2014 08: 55
    +1
    M la flew like vultures. Who else liked this piece? Romania Odessa?
  20. siberalt
    siberalt 16 May 2014 09: 07
    +2
    It is not for nothing that the Hungarians call themselves hu ..., sorry, the Hungarians. laughing And so, everything is as if in Zhirinovsky. The West will not succeed in completely shaking Ukraine.
  21. Giperboreec
    Giperboreec 16 May 2014 09: 11
    +1
    Everyone wants to tear off a piece from Ukraine. Russia has always been forgotten to ask, and it’s a pity these statements will come back to him.
  22. lexxxus
    lexxxus 16 May 2014 09: 13
    +1
    Well che - well done man! Do not bend to the EU and the states! And Putin will also support him ... morally!
  23. Sultan
    Sultan 16 May 2014 09: 15
    +2
    Recently, unfortunate Ukraine has created conditions for the emergence of fixed ideas such as great Hungary, great Poland and other great ones, including Turkey ... Even the ex (de facto) Great Britain does not have such a status. Only one can be great - Russia !!!
  24. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 16 May 2014 09: 16
    +9
    As a gift to the Hungarian Prime Minister
  25. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 16 May 2014 09: 20
    +1
    from the Don.
    I feel, my EVA (wife) will go to twist Orbana’s head! lol
  26. teron
    teron 16 May 2014 09: 35
    +3
    Ukraine is on the right track under the strict guidance of oligarchs and Nazis.
    1. Erg
      Erg 17 May 2014 08: 48
      0
      Apparently the end of the bird's tongue is coming soon. What can I say ... The country is ruled by "cooks". Smart people learn from someone else's experience, fools learn from their own. Under-government, under-state, under-language ... sorry for people
  27. potap48a
    potap48a 16 May 2014 09: 37
    +3
    populism of pure water. Without the permission of the ops, he will not do anything. This is a preliminary sounding of the soil. As soon as the southeast becomes more or less independent from the junta, they will immediately begin to follow the example of Kosovo, they will promise you any base anywhere. If Lugansk had agreed to NATO bases on its territory, they would have long been a "democratic independent state" with full recognition and support of the entire "democratic progressive" world !!!
  28. mackonya
    mackonya 16 May 2014 09: 43
    +2
    Well, nothing bothers to hold a referendum, if the people of the region decide, then nothing should bother them in free will.
  29. Cormorants
    Cormorants 16 May 2014 10: 01
    +2
    he went with his ideas to hell. Transcarpathia is ours.
  30. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 16 May 2014 10: 10
    +1
    Hungary was silent for a long time, studied the situation. Apparently now having weighed all the pros and cons, I decided to make a claim to the lands of Transcarpathia. And why not, if the Romanians rolled (Fr. Snake) and legally, through a European court.
  31. demotivator
    demotivator 16 May 2014 10: 26
    +3
    “We see the Hungarian question as a European question. Hungarians who live in the Carpathian region have the right to dual citizenship, national community and autonomy ”
    - Orban said on Tuesday, speaking in parliament. During the six-month reign, the Kiev junta has already lost part of its territory and about 7 million citizens who voted in a referendum against the fascist leadership. The power of Turchinov and Yatsenyuk rests solely on the support of Western countries and on militants of the "right sector". At the same time, they are able to control the situation only in the central part of the country, or where there are punitive units capable of fighting only with unarmed people!
    With such a weakness of the state, any ally can turn into an enemy. Because, in international politics there are no friends and enemies, there are only national interests! If the state is weak and unable to control its territory, then other forces will come to its place, which I can more successfully dispose of this territory.
    This is the logic of international relations and there are no exceptions!
    Now, following the Donetsk and Lugansk autonomy, Transcarpathian Hungarians will seek.
    I wonder what the Maidan people will say? What again is Putin to blame for everything?
    Will there be punitive operations in Transcarpathia similar to a military operation in the southeast?
    It will be extremely interesting to observe the development of the situation in this direction!
  32. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 16 May 2014 10: 30
    +1
    The Nazis, even if they take the Nazis for themselves, all this evil spirits are right, since they have already become opulent .. they have settled, have grown in territory, they would have sat quietly hurrying, otherwise you can lose the last
  33. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 16 May 2014 10: 54
    +8
    I feel that the Principality of Kiev will soon return to its historical borders.
  34. Galich Kos
    Galich Kos 16 May 2014 11: 09
    +2
    And it went in a circle not fallow. Hungarians, Romanians, Poles - everyone wants to chop off a piece. Vultures flew to the corpse of the former state of Ukraine. On the other hand, if you want and can, why not take advantage of the moment? Times go by, everything changes, but the principle "who is stronger is the one who is right" remains.
    1. Alekseir162
      Alekseir162 16 May 2014 11: 28
      +2
      Unfortunately, it was always, as soon as the state weakens, there are neighbors who want to grow their territory. And no Helsinki agreements can serve here as an obstacle to the right of the strong. The main thing here is to choose a convenient moment.
  35. bistrov.
    bistrov. 16 May 2014 11: 34
    +2
    Transcarpathia is a Russian land, for its liberation from the Nazis, among whom was then Hungary, in the last war, many thousands of our fathers and grandfathers piled their heads. Therefore, it is worthless to scatter Russian lands, we should be ashamed of the memory of our heroic fathers and grandfathers . You see the former Khorty people in your nose, not Transcarpathia. As for the Transcarpathian Hungarians, these are good working people, good winemakers, I personally knew many at one time, so let them live quietly, learn their Hungarian language, keep their Hungarian culture, when Transcarpathia will soon come under the jurisdiction of Russia, they will surely get their autonomy, like many peoples of Russia. That's my opinion.
  36. Roland
    Roland 16 May 2014 11: 58
    +4
    Many acquaintances from Transcarpathia. So this is what they think: (not Hungarians) "We are with both hands for Hungary to take us to her." This was expressed by the Ukrainians who live there, although it would be a stretch to call them Ukrainians, because everyone has a grandfather, grandmother / great-grandfather, great-grandmother, or a Hungarian, or a Romanian, or a Slovak. In short, everyone there has non-Ukrainian roots. Many (mainly the older generation) know at least a little Hungarian and / or Romanian. For 23 years they are so fed up with the Kiev authorities that they are ready to walk under Hungary. Since the collapse of the USSR, Kiev has turned a flourishing land into a depressed region, where all capable people are working.
    By the way, they don’t scam the USSR there, because they say that with the advice we had everything. And since the collapse of all life collapsed.
    And at the expense of Bandera, they asked not to write them down as fans. Although they are in the west of Ukraine, they do not want to have anything to do with Bandera. "You don't need to equate us, Bandera's people are lions, and we are not Bandera's."
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 16 May 2014 13: 53
      +2
      Quote: Roland
      We are with both hands for Hungary to take us to her. ”This was expressed by the Ukrainians who live there, although they can also be called Ukrainians with a big stretch,

      Sergey, I have relatives there ...
      In Transcarpathia, nationality hangs over nationality and peeks because of nationality.
      To spin up the national question there is a stupid and dangerous occupation.

      In general, I agree with your comment, but ...
      Neither Russian, nor Rusyns nor local Ukrainians favor Hungarians there ... Hungarians themselves live there - in separate clans and close settlements.

      Something like that.
      1. Roland
        Roland 16 May 2014 16: 01
        +2
        I forgot to mention that I also have relatives there. I used to be in Transcarpathia often, visited whole villages of Hungarians, the impression is that you are in Hungary, the Ukrainian language is not heard at all. I can’t say that they don’t favor the Hungarians there, according to my observations they have a neutral attitude towards them, they don’t hate them, but they don’t praise them either, they are somehow neutral. Moreover, there was in villages where the ratio of Hungarians and other nationalities is 50/50, they still live in the same village, and there seems to be nothing much conflict. But the fact that the Hungarians live very cohesive and isolated, you are right in this.

        It was still a little surprising to me that many children (not Hungarians) have Hungarian or Romanian names, but it turns out they are half-breeds, one of the parents is Hungarian or Romanian.

        OFF: The language there is of course an explosive mixture of Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, Hungarian, Romanian and partly Slovak. Out of habit it is very difficult to understand, then you understand a little and already understand. But some turns of speech still baffle me, especially when they cannot explain in Russian. Once a man from Nikolaev came there for work, so he could not understand anything at all, the locals told me, and I, in turn, explained to him in Russian. It was fun to be a "translator" smile
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 16 May 2014 16: 13
          +1
          Quote: Roland
          I’ve been in entire villages of Hungarians, the impression is that you are in Hungary, the Ukrainian language is not heard at all.

          Exactly.
          smile
          Quote: Roland
          Language there is of course an explosive mixture

          This is yes ...
          good

          Good luck, Sergey, to all our relatives in Transcarpathia, let them live in peace.
          What should they share there, children?
          That’s how it is for me personally ...
          drinks
          1. Roland
            Roland 16 May 2014 16: 25
            +1
            And your not to be ill! Among mine there are not, "bitten" by the Maidan. Once they got worried when they were told on TV that there would be war with Russia. I told them everything and advised not to watch the TV set, which they did, and so far they live quietly. ChOP and Vinogradovsky district.
            1. Aleks tv
              Aleks tv 16 May 2014 17: 21
              +1
              Quote: Roland
              Among mine there are not, "bitten" by the Maidan.

              Similarly.
              They just mess around in the garden without any politics.
              The family is Russian-Ukrainian.

              Quote: Roland
              Private security company and Vinogradovsky district.

              Mine near Mukachevo.

              hi
              1. Roland
                Roland 18 May 2014 23: 45
                0
                Exactly the same situation, they work and mess in the gardens! drinks
  37. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 16 May 2014 12: 19
    +3
    Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
    I feel that the Principality of Kiev will soon return to its historical borders.

    Or maybe it's for the better ??! This whole Ukrainian project is already very expensive for us. For already a century, it has been a nasty splinter in the body of Russia, the cause of an incredible number of victims. Isn't it better to put a bullet in this issue by putting everything in its place. Maybe really, it will be a way out if all this zapadensky hemorrhoids depart to those who created it in due time ???! A certain Ukrainian gambit.
  38. Deadmen
    Deadmen 16 May 2014 12: 35
    +2
    It will be difficult for the Hungarians to do this, because they don’t have such smart polite people like ours.
  39. Sergey7311
    Sergey7311 16 May 2014 12: 40
    +4
    Ukrainian independence is bursting across all bisectors ...
  40. iulai
    iulai 16 May 2014 12: 53
    +2
    Under Soviet rule, I served in the Carpathian Military District, Mukachevo, as Hungarians live there all the time.
  41. Roland
    Roland 16 May 2014 13: 04
    0
    Meanwhile.

    Hungarian authorities found pro-Kremlin ultra-right spy

    The reason for the suspicion was too private contacts Kovacs with Russian diplomats. In addition, he visited Moscow every month. And during the referendum in the Crimea, which the EU considers illegitimate, Kovacs acted as an observer.


    http://lenta.ru/news/2014/05/16/jobbik/
  42. northern
    northern 16 May 2014 13: 20
    0
    It is curious which Poland will publish the map of Ukraine’s cut. It is surprising that they are still silent.
  43. smershxnumx
    smershxnumx 16 May 2014 13: 42
    +1
    Quote: Dimon-chik-79
    Or maybe it's for the better ??! This whole Ukrainian project is already very expensive for us. For already a century, it has been a nasty splinter in the body of Russia, the cause of an incredible number of victims. Isn't it better to put a bullet in this issue by putting everything in its place.
    So, of course, for the better !!! !!!! it will be much easier for them and they will definitely reach Kiev. If only Poland and Romania put territorial claims into effect, YOURS IT WAS GREAT. Some write, and "allow" Hungary to carry out such actions, it is a sovereign country and conduct its external she is not obliged to and should not ask the EU and the USA
    1. Milana
      Milana 16 May 2014 14: 47
      +2
      That would have happened as you write !!!
      There would not be enough resources for pravosek to rush at all!
  44. sv68
    sv68 16 May 2014 14: 09
    +2
    let all the Hungarians be taken to Siberia to Hungary, and these lands should go to Russia. Ukroina is one and indivisible wassat as part of the Russian Federation
  45. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 16 May 2014 14: 13
    +3
    "Kemsk volost? Take away!"
  46. Milana
    Milana 16 May 2014 14: 40
    +2
    Whatever the EU may come up with regarding Ukraine, it will be gratefully acknowledged: this is Europe, an important part of which they have long felt themselves!
  47. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 16 May 2014 14: 52
    +3
    According to the situation, it is time for the dill to create the western front. Once in the east, "sluggish schizophrenia" and huge victories in social networks. The East has already fought EVERYTHING on a par with the Crimea. From the west, Magyars, Romanians, Poles, right up to mounted gypsies with knives will climb here. And again, as in the 17th century they loved. I don't want to fight. It's time to turn to Poland (EU) with the eternal "logic": - Like, if you don't take us to yourself, we will cut you until we accept. (Historical fact).
  48. Walk
    Walk 16 May 2014 15: 20
    +2
    It is necessary to be careful with the words: "Let them take away." Romanians generally claim the entire coastline, including Odessa. Let there be self-determination of the regions, but it will be possible to talk about joining only after the referendum.
  49. crasever
    crasever 16 May 2014 15: 26
    +3
    How else ?? Only the Hungarian army can fully protect ethnic Hungarians on the territory of Ukraine, but they are obliged to determine themselves now!
  50. raven75
    raven75 16 May 2014 16: 03
    +2
    Fuck a wheelbarrow and ... a pack of these Hungarians. They made a slurp, pissed devils. Z .. I’m on the collar, not Transcarpathia. Hungary was an ally of Nazi Germany and active. Our troops there left more than 200 thousand lives of our soldiers and officers. And now the Hungarians stick their nose where the dog did not pop something else. However, it is unlikely that the wishes of all kinds of Hungary, Romania and the like will at least mean something for both Russia and the West.